Jenny wrote:

Thing is, things like these apply throughout the entire map so you'll have to consciously re-evaluate the entire thing on this, probably; I haven't looked through it, but chances are high you didn't take a lot of care when you weren't aware of it, which in itself is okay, you just need to revise it eventually.

-Aeryn- wrote:

Agree on the od9 possibly being too strict

I can't really play that BPM and spacing well enough to say which OD feels best for not slightly falling off timing/aim and then dropping the entire stream, but the OD to bpm ratio is quite different to fd4d which i play at 222bpm od8 and 180bpm od6.9 (OD proportional to bpm) which works alright. For a similar feel to FD4D you'd need od~7.5, and 9 is quite far away from that so i'm skeptical

1. Remove Countdown better imo.
2. Remove check Letterbox during breaks.
3. .mp3 file is 128kps now. try Conversion 192kps.
4. BG size is 1365x768 now. try Conversion 1366x768.
5. add tag 'dokolp'? maybe many pepole search your old name.
6. Try add tag 'Sonic Firestorm'. it's albam name.

1. 01:01:350 - it's red line... i don't need imo.. why use it?
2. 02:31:350 - ^
3. 07:21:450 (1,4) - try same position. seems good imo. (4) move (x:236 y:164)
4. 07:31:200 (9,10,1) - (9,10) Ctrl+G. also, next (1) Ctrl+G. more fit song and fun imo.

P o M u T a wrote:

[General]

1. Remove Countdown better imo.
2. Remove check Letterbox during breaks.
3. .mp3 file is 128kps now. try Conversion 192kps.
4. BG size is 1365x768 now. try Conversion 1366x768.
5. add tag 'dokolp'? maybe many pepole search your old name.
6. Try add tag 'Sonic Firestorm'. it's albam name.

[DoKo]

1. 01:01:350 - it's red line... i don't need imo.. why use it?
2. 02:31:350 - ^
3. 07:21:450 (1,4) - try same position. seems good imo. (4) move (x:236 y:164)
4. 07:31:200 (9,10,1) - (9,10) Ctrl+G. also, next (1) Ctrl+G. more fit song and fun imo.

too hard map for me, so i can't find almost haha.
good luck for rank!

phaZ wrote:

sry, mod in german
00:21:450 (6,1,6,1,6,1) - - finde das ds zu klein, ich empfinde es eher wie beim aller ersten mal. 00:23:850 (6,1,6,1) - sind so nah an der grenze für mein geschmack^^. am aller "schlimmsten" finde ich 00:25:950 (5,6,1). wie es jenny schon erklärt hat, spielen sich diese elemente überhaupt nicht jumpiger als davor Hab' n paar verbessert.
00:57:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - du sagtest zwar dass du das ds sehr stark nach deinem empfinden bestimmst aber hier macht es nicht wirklich sinn dass 00:57:750 (1,2,3,4,5) so dolle anderes ds von 00:58:200 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) hat. wenn beide etwa gleich klein wären (oder von klein zu groß), würde das einfach einfach epischer sein Ich weiss echt nicht was ihr alle mit variierenden Spacings habt. Es spielt sich nicht grottenschlecht und an sich mag ich es mehr, wenn man ein wenig Variation beim Movement hat.
01:09:750 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - würde den slider rauslassen. wenn man die map spielt verkraftet man längeree streams weitaus leichter. außerdem hat er hier nicht die gleiche bedeutung wie 01:09:150 (2) ~ spielt sich ohne ihn besser imo Der Slider hat schon seinen Sinn und Zweck^^
01:19:950 (9,10,11,12) - so wie
02:19:950 (7) - aus dem slider-tail in triplet machen? Einen Triplebeat hör' ich da jetzt nicht so wirklich raus, zumal ich davor auch nie Triplets in der Section habe
02:39:750 (5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hier würd ich wieder den slider weglassen Okay. Hier hast du recht. Da passt er nicht wirklich
03:29:250 (2,3,4) - (4) fühlt sich für micha auch noch an wie (2,3) -> passt sowas (in der art^^) nicht besser http://puu.sh/gdmgL/ffa5778b77.jpg? wenn du die symmetrie behalten willst dann würde ich zumindest den mittleren slider auch an zweiter stelle von den dreien haben, aber naja.. passt wahrscheinlich eh nicht zu deinem mapping stil Hab es ein wenig verändert.
03:35:100 (3,4,5,6,7) - lässt sich mM extrem schwer verglichen mit den wendungen vorher spielen Das liegt nicht an den Wendungen. Ich hab' das Spacing einfach verkackt. Habe es um 0,1x verringert
03:35:850 (13,14,15) - kommt mir auch doch eher überflüssig vor diese wendung Entfernt
03:42:750 (8) - hab n eechtes problem mit dem flow hier. bei der figur vorher 03:38:850 (2,3,4,5,6,7) und nachher 03:43:950 (4,5,6,7,8) werden alle slider in etwa gleich gespacet gespielt. 03:41:550 (4,5,6,7,8) - hier werden 03:41:550 (4,5,6) nach jenny's ersten bild die slider jedoch kaum vollständig ausgespielt jedoch bei 03:42:450 (7,8,9) - ist das ds viel höher. ich habe aber eher erwartet, dass die wie in der figur vorher alle ähnlich zueinander gespielt werden. 03:42:750 (8) sollte daher etwas näher an (7) sein imo Okay. Habe das Spacing verringert und Strg+G benutzt
05:53:775 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - wieder sehr schwer zu spielen imo^^ Habe die Streams ein wenig verbessert
05:58:050 (1,2,3) - sollten die nicht so sein wie 05:59:250 (1,2,3,4) fixed
06:04:800 (10,11,12,13,14,15) - diese wendung am anfang kommt mir wieder ein bisschen gegen den flow vor imo fixed
06:15:150 (2,4) - wie wärs mit ctrl+g? dann ist die gesamte figur vom flow auch so änhnlich wie 06:16:050 (5,6,7,8) fixed

so das soll auch reichen.

1. Well, I don't really think the accurate combo colours are matching the BG very well. Personally I advice something soft-toned, for example this.
2. Where are hitsounds? Remember you have to HS the map, otherwise it's not possible to make it approved!
   
3. 00:52:200 (3) - The beginning of this slider is so shaky... I doubt it is rankable nowadays. To be honest I don't know how you want to stress this riff here, but maybe you could try to make something more simple without so many curves and direction changes.
4. 00:53:400 (8) - Can you improve this blanket, please?
5. 00:54:150 (11) - Well, maybe it's not as unrankable as the previous slider, but try to place the red points a bit closer so it's not wubbling that much. Maybe use something similar like 04:25:491 (11) - this?
6. 01:24:000 (5,6,7) - Is there a possibility to make it 1/2 instead of 3/4 sliders? Now it doesn't sound well, I believe the better way would be to make it 1/2 as in the previous moments because now it seems to be a bit sloppy. Or if possible, to make 1/2 sliders and circles between note gap. What do you think about it?
7. 01:36:600 (10) - Again the same thing, but this time only to this one slider.
8. 02:01:050 (7,8,9,10) - could you stack it properly due 02:00:450 (5) - this slider? You know, blanket thing is a nazi thing, but design is an important thing nowadays.
9. 02:54:000 (5,6) - I think you know why I've pointed this moment. The same goes to 03:06:600 (10,11) - this.
10. 03:27:000 (2) - Blanket it, please. ;_;
11. 03:52:800 (10) - This one too.
12. 04:23:020 (9) - Well, I am wondering if you could straighten the slider a little bit so it's less curvy, for example like this. Now it's quite 808 and someone probably will point it out, so I'm doing it now.
13. 04:58:650 (3) - Well, the spacing which starts from here is insanely huge... Streams like that for that long... I am just not into this kind of thing if it lasts too long.
14. 05:02:550 (14) - Again, the slider form is quite unrankable I believe (because of too much wubbly structure).
15. 05:07:050 (13) - Blanket Terrora.
16. 05:09:300 (9) - Again unrankable thing I think.
17. 05:26:850 (1) - Those streams part 2... Are you sure you want to keep such construction? I don't think BNs and QATs will be willing on thing like this, it's not 2012.
18. 05:31:350 (13) - Dat wubbling slider! Again I recommend to copy or make something similar like 04:25:491 (11) - this to avoid too much dangerous red points in the sliders.

Krfawy wrote:

Hello DoKo, Krfawy here! :3

Whoever told you about me is going to get raped with my blonde nature if you don't tell me who it was. ;_;

1. Well, I don't really think the accurate combo colours are matching the BG very well. Personally I advice something soft-toned, for example this. I trust you cause you are a gril. <3
2. Where are hitsounds? Remember you have to HS the map, otherwise it's not possible to make it approved! Mao will do them (probably soon)
   
3. 00:52:200 (3) - The beginning of this slider is so shaky... I doubt it is rankable nowadays. To be honest I don't know how you want to stress this riff here, but maybe you could try to make something more simple without so many curves and direction changes. Stopit renkink kritterriah. Fixed
4. 00:53:400 (8) - Can you improve this blanket, please? Done
5. 00:54:150 (11) - Well, maybe it's not as unrankable as the previous slider, but try to place the red points a bit closer so it's not wubbling that much. Maybe use something similar like 04:25:491 (11) - this? I hate that rule so much. It is so difficult to make unique sliders and especially sliders, which fit to such kind of sounds. :c STOPIT RENK KRITÄRIEAH!
6. 01:24:000 (5,6,7) - Is there a possibility to make it 1/2 instead of 3/4 sliders? Now it doesn't sound well, I believe the better way would be to make it 1/2 as in the previous moments because now it seems to be a bit sloppy. Or if possible, to make 1/2 sliders and circles between note gap. What do you think about it? Tried many different things there... without success. I think it is good as it is, even though this part bothers me a lot, but i just can't find a better solution D:
7. 01:36:600 (10) - Again the same thing, but this time only to this one slider. ^
8. 02:01:050 (7,8,9,10) - could you stack it properly due 02:00:450 (5) - this slider? You know, blanket thing is a nazi thing, but design is an important thing nowadays. done
9. 02:54:000 (5,6) - I think you know why I've pointed this moment. The same goes to 03:06:600 (10,11) - this. :C
10. 03:27:000 (2) - Blanket it, please. ;_; done
11. 03:52:800 (10) - This one too. You are more nazi than i am... ...I like that.
12. 04:23:020 (9) - Well, I am wondering if you could straighten the slider a little bit so it's less curvy, for example like this. Now it's quite 808 and someone probably will point it out, so I'm doing it now. I don't know why, but okay o:
13. 04:58:650 (3) - Well, the spacing which starts from here is insanely huge... Streams like that for that long... I am just not into this kind of thing if it lasts too long. I love them. I already fced them with barely no 100s, so they are playable. The guitar solo is intense and i love spaced streams (but i know most of the ppl around here do not).
14. 05:02:550 (14) - Again, the slider form is quite unrankable I believe (because of too much wubbly structure). Made it less wubbly... faggin renking kretarria.
15. 05:07:050 (13) - Blanket Terrora. done.
16. 05:09:300 (9) - Again unrankable thing I think. Again stohpit rengar corneria
17. 05:26:850 (1) - Those streams part 2... Are you sure you want to keep such construction? I don't think BNs and QATs will be willing on thing like this, it's not 2012. If i have to remove these perfectly fine streams because of BNs or QATs i won't aim for approval anymore. They are quite difficult, but that's the intenion behind them. They are nothing impossible on the first playthrough, they just need to be played by someone with great movement. So if someone really insists on not ranking the map because of these streams, then i will lose faith in humanity (probably only in the stopit renking crittärriah and the people, who changed them).
18. 05:31:350 (13) - Dat wubbling slider! Again I recommend to copy or make something similar like 04:25:491 (11) - this to avoid too much dangerous red points in the sliders. less wubble

I think that's all here. Sorry if my mod isn't helpful at all, but I don't feel that I'm able to help here. This kind of diffs is not my cup of tea. :<

Good luck!

Kocari wrote:

One thing to say the 7 star map on this is a bit overwhelming, most of the DragonForce maps are at measily 6 stars and that is reasonable, the way you have streams makes it difficult to play out and maintain a combo, I suggest slighting changing the DS of the streams to be a little bit shorter and making the jumps a progressive difficulty, as in it gets harder than not start off difficult in the beginning and throughout the whole thing since it's too hard. It even beats this map that just came out https://osu.ppy.sh/b/633507 and it's hard. But the only thing with that map is it's massive jumps. Just make your map not so difficult so its playable as a marathon and somewhat of a challenge for the players. If it's difficult throughout the whole map not many people will enjoy it since your limiting yourself to how much people can play the song If you do make the changes I suggested then call me back here and I can thoroughly mod it.

1. You probably haven't hitsounded yet but you should do that.
2. 00:21:450 (6,1) - Feels a bit close. Same with 00:22:650 (6,1) - . Reason is probably because you jump at 00:20:250 (6,1) - , and these sections being very similar to each other. 00:23:850 (6,1) - is better, since there's still a slight jump, it's only when the DS don't change at all that I feel it's kinda off.
3. 00:35:400 (3,4,5) - Slightly awkward flow. Not really a big deal, but the flow has mostly been circular at this point.
4. 00:56:550 (8,9,10) - Try slider-note-slider-note? Since the guitar is on 00:57:150 -
5. 00:58:050 (5) - Slightly curve this towards the next stream?
6. 01:04:350 (7,8,9,10,11) - It's kinda weird to have these jumps when the previous notes are really close to each other, and with no particular increase in intensity in the song.
7. 01:20:550 - fuck you <3
8. 01:24:000 (5,6,7) - Just in reply to another mod, you could try to make 1/2 sliders with the sliders being sped up a bit or something, though they're probably fine as-is, as long as you lower the volume of the ends.
9. 01:28:200 (2,3,4) - Move this pattern down a bit? Unless you intentionally wanted to make (1,2) overlap, which is kinda silly.
10. 01:29:250 (9,1) - You should make these lead into each other more: http://puu.sh/ggHJm.jpg
11. 01:30:150 (9,1) - Should probably swap NC.
12. 01:40:050 (2,3,4) - Feel too close since you have higher spacing earlier :p
13. 01:53:850 (11) - I actually think this works better as two notes, since you have two drumhits on it.
14. 01:58:650 (5,6,7,8) - Change these to 2 1/4 sliders? You'll be clicking on the drumthingies.
15. 02:16:650 (6) - Looks like it's the same spacing between (5,6) and (6,7). Consider moving the (7) further away or something.
16. 02:18:000 (7,1) - Make 1 1/1 slider to be consistent with the same slider later.
17. 02:26:250 (6) - Not sure why you made a 1/4 slider instead of a note here, since you use a note at 02:16:650
18. 02:31:350 - 03:16:950 - Copy-paste and flipped is lame Well, you changed a few things, but overall you can still see that it's a copy-paste. You should like, rearrange stuff more. Anyhow, whatever I said earlier probably apply here.
19. 03:18:750 (2) - Intentionally no NC?
20. You did a better job rearranging the kiai, though you can still tell, which sucks
21. 03:45:900 (1,2,3) - Dunno that looks kinda ugly.
22. 03:47:700 (5,6) - ctrl+g?
23. 03:49:950 (8) - People might yell at you for that.
24. 04:04:650 (7,1) - and 04:08:250 (6,1) - Same as the beginning.
25. 04:23:726 (3,4) - Again just feels a bit too close.
26. 05:24:750 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/ggJT9.jpg works better imo though the whole thing is just kinda weird.
27. 05:26:850 - haha fuck you more.
28. 05:28:950 (13,1) - I actually think moving (13) away from (1) so you get a jump into the next stream would be more interesting. + It feels nice for "restarting" the streams/guitar solo. Same for the other sliders in this section.
29. 05:36:450 (2,3,4,5) - 3 Sliders following the guitar works better here imo: http://puu.sh/ggK5i.jpg
30. 05:48:150 (13,1) - Same as before etc.
31. 05:55:800 (2) - Delete note? I think it's pretty interesting to have a stop like this, and it follows the guitar better.
32. 06:00:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Nothing wrong with this, but I think http://puu.sh/ggKoj.jpg is a better rhythm, where you stack notes (1,2), (4,5), (8,9) and (10,11).
33. 06:07:950 (5,6) - Make a slightly bigger gap here? as well as a gap between 06:08:550 (10,1) -
34. 06:19:650 - Dunno about these velocity changers (this 1.6 and the previous and next 1.4) I guess you're trying to follow the "oh-oh-oh" thing going higher in pitch? Anyhow, some of the sliders feel too close during the 1.6 section compared to the sliderspeed.
35. 06:24:600 (2,3,4,5,6) - Straight lines are awkward ;;
36. 06:32:100 (16) - Make the first part of this slider smoother? So you don't get this ugly thing: http://puu.sh/ggKWa.jpg
37. 06:53:100 (12) - Move to 376;32 or somewhere along those lines? For a bigger jump into the repeat slider after it
38. 07:17:250 - Nothing wrong with the mapping itself, but this section just feels way too tame compared to all the stuff you had to go through to get here. It's the end of the map, so it just kinda awkward. The guitar is also similar to 00:40:950 - at the beginning (not identical but still), and I think it would fit better if you made this part similar in difficulty as that part.
39. 07:36:900 (2,2,2,2) - You'll have to move the pattern more to the right for this, but it'd be cool if you placed the (2)'s a further away for every repeat, so you get a nice jump on the last one.
40. 07:49:500 (1) - Make it a slider that ends at 07:50:550 - ? With some wiggles and squiggles and stuff.

CXu wrote:

Not really a mod but kinda is anyway. idk, you asked me to post. Anyhow just looking through the map.

[Legend]

1. You probably haven't hitsounded yet but you should do that. Will come soon.
2. 00:21:450 (6,1) - Feels a bit close. Same with 00:22:650 (6,1) - . Reason is probably because you jump at 00:20:250 (6,1) - , and these sections being very similar to each other. 00:23:850 (6,1) - is better, since there's still a slight jump, it's only when the DS don't change at all that I feel it's kinda off. Changed the whole part.
3. 00:35:400 (3,4,5) - Slightly awkward flow. Not really a big deal, but the flow has mostly been circular at this point. Ctrl+G'ed one slider
4. 00:56:550 (8,9,10) - Try slider-note-slider-note? Since the guitar is on 00:57:150 - done
5. 00:58:050 (5) - Slightly curve this towards the next stream? done
6. 01:04:350 (7,8,9,10,11) - It's kinda weird to have these jumps when the previous notes are really close to each other, and with no particular increase in intensity in the song. true. fixed.
7. 01:20:550 - fuck you <3 ;*
8. 01:24:000 (5,6,7) - Just in reply to another mod, you could try to make 1/2 sliders with the sliders being sped up a bit or something, though they're probably fine as-is, as long as you lower the volume of the ends. Will come with hitsounds^^
9. 01:28:200 (2,3,4) - Move this pattern down a bit? Unless you intentionally wanted to make (1,2) overlap, which is kinda silly. done
10. 01:29:250 (9,1) - You should make these lead into each other more: http://puu.sh/ggHJm.jpg done
11. 01:30:150 (9,1) - Should probably swap NC. okay
12. 01:40:050 (2,3,4) - Feel too close since you have higher spacing earlier :p changed
13. 01:53:850 (11) - I actually think this works better as two notes, since you have two drumhits on it. okay
14. 01:58:650 (5,6,7,8) - Change these to 2 1/4 sliders? You'll be clicking on the drumthingies. done
15. 02:16:650 (6) - Looks like it's the same spacing between (5,6) and (6,7). Consider moving the (7) further away or something. Since they are all played as 1/2 it is fine.
16. 02:18:000 (7,1) - Make 1 1/1 slider to be consistent with the same slider later. makes sense
17. 02:26:250 (6) - Not sure why you made a 1/4 slider instead of a note here, since you use a note at 02:16:650 note sure either. fixed
18. 02:31:350 - 03:16:950 - Copy-paste and flipped is lame Well, you changed a few things, but overall you can still see that it's a copy-paste. You should like, rearrange stuff more. Anyhow, whatever I said earlier probably apply here. It is almost exactly the same passage in the song again... I changed the placing quite a bit, but ye... I should replace some more objects.
19. 03:18:750 (2) - Intentionally no NC? No. Just forgot it.
20. You did a better job rearranging the kiai, though you can still tell, which sucks DragonForce songs are so fakkin repetitive. :c
21. 03:45:900 (1,2,3) - Dunno that looks kinda ugly. fixed
22. 03:47:700 (5,6) - ctrl+g? Plays better. Fixed.
23. 03:49:950 (8) - People might yell at you for that. :C fixed.
24. 04:04:650 (7,1) - and 04:08:250 (6,1) - Same as the beginning. fixed
25. 04:23:726 (3,4) - Again just feels a bit too close. fixed
26. 05:24:750 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/ggJT9.jpg works better imo though the whole thing is just kinda weird. changed
27. 05:26:850 - haha fuck you more. :3
28. 05:28:950 (13,1) - I actually think moving (13) away from (1) so you get a jump into the next stream would be more interesting. + It feels nice for "restarting" the streams/guitar solo. Same for the other sliders in this section. done
29. 05:36:450 (2,3,4,5) - 3 Sliders following the guitar works better here imo: http://puu.sh/ggK5i.jpg you're right. fixed
30. 05:48:150 (13,1) - Same as before etc. done
31. 05:55:800 (2) - Delete note? I think it's pretty interesting to have a stop like this, and it follows the guitar better. Well... Mapped it exactly like that (without that note), but somebody told me to add a note here... Dunno exactly who it was, but i shouldn't accept every single suggestion i guess x:
32. 06:00:450 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Nothing wrong with this, but I think http://puu.sh/ggKoj.jpg is a better rhythm, where you stack notes (1,2), (4,5), (8,9) and (10,11). I think i found a better solution.
33. 06:07:950 (5,6) - Make a slightly bigger gap here? as well as a gap between 06:08:550 (10,1) - done
34. 06:19:650 - Dunno about these velocity changers (this 1.6 and the previous and next 1.4) I guess you're trying to follow the "oh-oh-oh" thing going higher in pitch? Anyhow, some of the sliders feel too close during the 1.6 section compared to the sliderspeed. increased the spacing
35. 06:24:600 (2,3,4,5,6) - Straight lines are awkward ;; The music has no real tension... I thought about it as a kind of transitionstream.
36. 06:32:100 (16) - Make the first part of this slider smoother? So you don't get this ugly thing: http://puu.sh/ggKWa.jpg Meh. Now that you said it... It really looks fugly.
37. 06:53:100 (12) - Move to 376;32 or somewhere along those lines? For a bigger jump into the repeat slider after it done
38. 07:17:250 - Nothing wrong with the mapping itself, but this section just feels way too tame compared to all the stuff you had to go through to get here. It's the end of the map, so it just kinda awkward. The guitar is also similar to 00:40:950 - at the beginning (not identical but still), and I think it would fit better if you made this part similar in difficulty as that part. done
39. 07:36:900 (2,2,2,2) - You'll have to move the pattern more to the right for this, but it'd be cool if you placed the (2)'s a further away for every repeat, so you get a nice jump on the last one. I tried. Hope it's fine.
40. 07:49:500 (1) - Make it a slider that ends at 07:50:550 - ? With some wiggles and squiggles and stuff. wiggles and squiggles done! o7

Also OD is fine. Lower OD makes it easier to note-lock and you rip.

DoKito wrote:

whether about it fits to the song or not (in my personal taste).

DoKito wrote:

whether about it fits to the song or not (in my personal taste).

DoKito wrote:

whether about it fits to the song or not (in my personal taste).

Ayu wrote:

Disgusting.

Desperate-kun wrote:

This map is far from being polished enough to get ranked yet. Instead of complaining about how picky the ranking criteria is, you should increase your personal standards to improve the overall quality of this map. Ask yourself if everything makes sense with the music and is nice to play, if yes this map will also fit the ranking criteria and quality standards of the QAT in order to get ranked.

To list only a few of the many major issues you may want to adress before thinking about ranking this:

- emphasis due to jump usage is often poor, important beats are left without a jump pretty often, examples: 01:56:550 (1) - 02:50:550 (1) - 03:26:550 - I am honest. I don't really get what you mean. Do i HAVE to make a jump there? Cause i didn't really feel like making one there. The second one is reasonable tho and i fixed that.
- stream spacings often change randomly, for example 00:57:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I know a map should be consistent, but i just want to make it varied a bit. I do know that the music doesn't change a lot between these parts, but it is not like that stream is completely wrong. I like to vary the distance snap sometimes. I hope this is okay and i can leave it as it is, since i like it like that.
- the highly spaced streams often change angles drastically at unfitting places, for example 05:46:425 - 05:51:150 - I am like on of a few people, who can actually FC all the streams and trust me, if you learn how to aim spaced streams, edges and drastically changed directions are hellalot of fun. I know it is not 100% fitting to the music, but it is the same reason as with the different spacings. I just like to vary some things. I hate monotonous streams. It is just way more fun to have some nice movement while streaming.
- the NCing is inconsistent and random I tried making them reasonable. I don't really know which ones you mean exactly. I think this is somehow subjective, but i could be wrong.
...

This map is interesting, now get more mods to make it ready before having it bubbled.

Tassadar wrote:

Random mod from a bad mapper, I don't think this will be helpful, just some random suggestions from looking over this map and playing the first half a couple of times (mostly in the streams, not great with jumps).

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00:31:350 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Perhaps change this into 3 sliders 2 circles or 4 circles 2 sliders (like the other patterns) for consistency's sake? This pattern seems a bit out of place. For the sake of consistency!!! I changed it!
00:54:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It's about the same sound as 00:45:150 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) but the pattern is much more spaced. It does feel a bit more intense, but not enough to warrant that kind of spacing imo. Or space out the other stream a bit more. decreased the spacing a bit.
01:15:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Space this out a little more and move it off the repeat slider? I don't really see a reason for that tbh.
01:19:950 (9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This part feels a bit awkward to play as there is a pretty big gap and sudden change in direction. That was on purpose actually.
02:02:550 (6,7,8,9) - Spacing again. It's in a lot of places, I'll try and point out as much as I can. It's not that big a deal, but it looks and plays a bit wonky when the spacing is suddenly much smaller. Explained above on Desperate-Kun's suggestions.
02:46:650 (5,6,7,8) - ^
02:45:000 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:18:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
03:23:400 (6,7,8,9) - ^
04:34:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern looks interesting, but a bit ugly... try and make it a bit more like 04:52:314 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) ? I think you tried to make the same kind of pattern, but did it much better in the latter. I changed it a bit, but not because of its looks. I changed the little jump onto another circle to match the music better.

Lots of awkward turns in the spaced streams like Desperate-kun said. I'll try and point out some of the weirder ones.
05:13:200 (11,12,13,14,15) - Things like this appear often, not going to write this for every one. While it follows the general direction - which should play okay - the one note out of the flow makes it seem like a bit of an abrupt/awkward turn. These should probably be polished up a little.
05:17:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - The spacing is heavily reduced here. I agree that there should be a reduction in spacing, but this feels like a bit too heavy a reduction in spacing. Perhaps space it out a little more?
05:25:650 (8,9,10,11,12,13) - This is fine, but it might play/look a bit better if spaced out more.
05:30:975 (8,9,10,11) - Not that awkward, but I think you can change the position of these circles to make it flow better rather than changing direction slightly.
05:32:400 (11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Not sure about this. It might be okay, but to me it looks like this whole pattern plays a bit odd. Perhaps add a few 1/4 sliders to change direction rather than the circular motion here?
05:35:850 (9,10,11,12) - This one isn't so much of an issue in playability, but probably should be polished, too.
05:43:650 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - Same as 05:17:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16)
05:49:275 (12,13,14,15,16) - This stream as a whole feels a bit odd, but I think this section in particular will cause a lot of breaks. Perhaps the same stuff with 1/4 sliders?
05:51:075 (4,5,6) - The 5 feels very out of place. Same with the 4 in 05:52:200 (3,4,5) and in 05:53:700 (7,8,9) . These are the more extreme examples that I talked about in 05:13:200 (11,12,13,14,15) but this time the notes being talked about could even just be removed (and the stream extended one note).
06:07:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Same kind of stuff as 05:43:650 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) . Perhaps space it out a little more?
06:23:250 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - ^
07:09:750 (13) - Not sure about this turn.
07:13:275 (12,13,14,15,16,1) - Same kind of thing with 1/4 sliders, especially the turn in 07:13:575 (16,1) .
07:14:325 (10) - Weird turn again.

I feel like the only people complaining about sharp turns in streams are the ones, who cannot play them. Don't take this as an offense, please. I really don't want to change ANYTHING about these spaced streams. They are really fun like they are now. They are meant to be difficult and have some turns and edges. As i said above, I am one of a few, who can play spaced streams really well. I can even FC these streams (even with hardrock i did it ALMOST) and sharp turns in spaced streams make me orgasm. I really refuse to change the spaced streams. Sorry. If this is a big issue to get this map ranked, then I would rather prefer it to get graved rather than changing it.

Though this is a long mod, most of these are just nit-picky things/suggestions. The stream spacing isn't too big of an issue, it might just be more aesthetically pleasing/flow better if some of them are more consistently spaced. The awkward turns are the only real issue in playability I could come across - the spacing by itself already makes it extremely challenging to the very best, the awkward turns just makes it frustrating.
All of that being said, this was a really, really fun map to play, even if a tad unpolished. I really do hope this does get ranked (if I didn't like this map, I wouldn't mod it) and this is one of my maps of 2015 so far. Best of luck in getting it ranked!
(Also someone please mod some of the spacing outside the streams that I'm too inexperienced to see pls)

1. CS 5 pls (jk :p)
2. 00:32:100 (5,6) - and 00:32:850 (3,4) - Make the spacing larger, create a jump to make it more consistent. It would feel and play better since the player would be able to predict it without a problem and follow the music.
3. 00:56:550 (8,9,10) - This looks "meh". May i suggest something different? http://puu.sh/i7Fw0/523d5c19a8.jpg then uu.sh/i7FwT/866c3b2206.jpg. 11 is stacked on the end of 8, curved the stream to make a smoother transition.
4. 00:57:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't understand these changes on the stream spacing, the song's intensity doesn't change, try to make it more consistent.
5. 01:04:650 (7,1,2,3) - Flow can improve here, it feels forced. Ctrl+g and ctrl+h would work nicely on the triple, then position the pattern like this: http://puu.sh/i7GbL/ad601beabb.jpg
6. 01:07:050 (6,7,8,9) - Make this stream slightly curved, to make it flow better and look better. http://puu.sh/i7FWB/a0f621ff00.jpg
7. 01:15:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - There is no need to stack the last notes, it only cunfuses the player (me :p). You can make the spacing on the stream smaller to avoid it.
8. 01:20:400 (12,1) - This 1/4 jump is evil, it doesn't flow well enough to be ok. I seriusly think you should remake this part to avoid it.
9. 01:31:050 (4,5,6) - The triple should be where 4 is, listen more closely. http://puu.sh/i7GBY/fbab59b6b1.jpg
10. 01:37:200 (12) - This is not needed and doesn't play well imo, it's enough with just a circle.
11. 01:54:000 (12,1,2,3,4) - Align this better so it flows better.
12. 02:15:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't follow the music, rhythm should be 3 triples http://puu.sh/i7H72/c73a652148.jpg . I strongly recommend that you change it, imo how it is now doesn't feel well.
13. 02:25:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same ^
14. 02:33:300 (9,10,11,12,13) - Flow can improve, try: http://puu.sh/i7Hx4/f7c2295b77.jpg
15. 03:41:850 (5) - I think this slider would flow better if you ctrl+g it, then put it around 464, 88
16. 03:45:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as the other ones, feels very forced T.T
17. 03:48:000 (1) - Flow feels forced here too, try positioning it like this http://puu.sh/i7I4i/5323d00931.jpg to make it smoother and to keep consistent with the jumps.
18. 03:55:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - D:, and if you decide to not change this sections, for some reason, the transition here 03:56:250 (6,7) - feels really bad, make 6 lead to 7 in a smoother way.
19. 04:16:650 (5) - Ctrl+g this, it would give a nice effect to the cursor movement, goes nicely with the sound you're following.
20. 04:17:400 (8) - This can flow better, right now is too sharp. Try this: http://puu.sh/i7IvB/7b0717c281.jpg
21. 04:19:950 (6) - Why do you force these 1/4 sliders where there's not sound? A circle would work just as good and not be overmapped.
22. 04:39:079 (2,3) - Switch these on the timeline, would make a nice back and forth flow. Then maybe reduce this jump 04:39:255 (3,4) - , but it would be ok i think even without making it shorter.
23. 04:44:550 (1,2,3) - Why are these repeats? Try using this rhythm http://puu.sh/i7JdS/ea8daf2798.jpg the last one finishes on blue tick for the drum. Pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/i7Jn2/c3f8f4dc63.jpg and http://puu.sh/i7Jo0/29b09e909b.jpg
24. Skipped the crazy guitar solo section, i can't even attept to play it :/. I'll just say that it's a bit too messy in some parts and that the stream shapes are too irregular. It somewhat fits though :p.
25. 06:00:900 (3) - Make this shorter, to the white tick to follow the guitar better, and remove the soft sampleset.
26. 06:02:100 (9) - Same.
27. 06:03:150 (5) - Curve it to make it lead to next stream a bit better.
28. 06:05:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Wow
29. 06:52:500 (6,7) - Bad flowbreak, make 6 lead to the stream or move the stream.
30. 07:02:550 (8,9,10) - It would play better if 8 was part of the stream, turn it into 2 circles.
31. 07:14:250 (9,10,11) - These little things you do with your streams dont play good, try to avoid doing that.
32. 07:20:550 (10,11) - Rotate these -90 degrees with selection center as origin, it would make the flow nicer .

Atsuro wrote:

Hey, mod as requested
It will be a "quick" check.

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1. CS 5 pls (jk :p)
2. 00:32:100 (5,6) - and 00:32:850 (3,4) - Make the spacing larger, create a jump to make it more consistent. It would feel and play better since the player would be able to predict it without a problem and follow the music. fixed
3. 00:56:550 (8,9,10) - This looks "meh". May i suggest something different? http://puu.sh/i7Fw0/523d5c19a8.jpg then uu.sh/i7FwT/866c3b2206.jpg. 11 is stacked on the end of 8, curved the stream to make a smoother transition. changed
4. 00:57:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't understand these changes on the stream spacing, the song's intensity doesn't change, try to make it more consistent. Since so many people pointed out exactly this part, I guess i really have to change it.
5. 01:04:650 (7,1,2,3) - Flow can improve here, it feels forced. Ctrl+g and ctrl+h would work nicely on the triple, then position the pattern like this: http://puu.sh/i7GbL/ad601beabb.jpg Changed it
6. 01:07:050 (6,7,8,9) - Make this stream slightly curved, to make it flow better and look better. http://puu.sh/i7FWB/a0f621ff00.jpg okay
7. 01:15:000 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - There is no need to stack the last notes, it only cunfuses the player (me :p). You can make the spacing on the stream smaller to avoid it. Since somebody else also suggested it, I'm gonna change it^^
8. 01:20:400 (12,1) - This 1/4 jump is evil, it doesn't flow well enough to be ok. I seriusly think you should remake this part to avoid it. I think this is fine now. I changed the order of them.
9. 01:31:050 (4,5,6) - The triple should be where 4 is, listen more closely. http://puu.sh/i7GBY/fbab59b6b1.jpg okay :c
10. 01:37:200 (12) - This is not needed and doesn't play well imo, it's enough with just a circle. changed
11. 01:54:000 (12,1,2,3,4) - Align this better so it flows better. done
12. 02:15:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This doesn't follow the music, rhythm should be 3 triples http://puu.sh/i7H72/c73a652148.jpg . I strongly recommend that you change it, imo how it is now doesn't feel well. fixed
13. 02:25:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same ^ fixed
14. 02:33:300 (9,10,11,12,13) - Flow can improve, try: http://puu.sh/i7Hx4/f7c2295b77.jpg done
15. 03:41:850 (5) - I think this slider would flow better if you ctrl+g it, then put it around 464, 88 done. Also ctrl+g'd 6
16. 03:45:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as the other ones, feels very forced T.T It is not forced. I just didn't listen to the music carefully enough.
17. 03:48:000 (1) - Flow feels forced here too, try positioning it like this http://puu.sh/i7I4i/5323d00931.jpg to make it smoother and to keep consistent with the jumps. I think this is good as it is now.
18. 03:55:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - D:, and if you decide to not change this sections, for some reason, the transition here 03:56:250 (6,7) - feels really bad, make 6 lead to 7 in a smoother way. I changed them^^
19. 04:16:650 (5) - Ctrl+g this, it would give a nice effect to the cursor movement, goes nicely with the sound you're following. okay
20. 04:17:400 (8) - This can flow better, right now is too sharp. Try this: http://puu.sh/i7IvB/7b0717c281.jpg fixed
21. 04:19:950 (6) - Why do you force these 1/4 sliders where there's not sound? A circle would work just as good and not be overmapped. okay
22. 04:39:079 (2,3) - Switch these on the timeline, would make a nice back and forth flow. Then maybe reduce this jump 04:39:255 (3,4) - , but it would be ok i think even without making it shorter. done
23. 04:44:550 (1,2,3) - Why are these repeats? Try using this rhythm http://puu.sh/i7JdS/ea8daf2798.jpg the last one finishes on blue tick for the drum. Pattern suggestion: http://puu.sh/i7Jn2/c3f8f4dc63.jpg and http://puu.sh/i7Jo0/29b09e909b.jpg I kinda like it as it is now^^
24. Skipped the crazy guitar solo section, i can't even attept to play it :/. I'll just say that it's a bit too messy in some parts and that the stream shapes are too irregular. It somewhat fits though :p.
25. 06:00:900 (3) - Make this shorter, to the white tick to follow the guitar better, and remove the soft sampleset. done
26. 06:02:100 (9) - Same. done
27. 06:03:150 (5) - Curve it to make it lead to next stream a bit better. okay
28. 06:05:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Wow <3
29. 06:52:500 (6,7) - Bad flowbreak, make 6 lead to the stream or move the stream. fixed
30. 07:02:550 (8,9,10) - It would play better if 8 was part of the stream, turn it into 2 circles. done
31. 07:14:250 (9,10,11) - These little things you do with your streams dont play good, try to avoid doing that. They play very well, trust me. Spikes in streams are VERY fun, imo.
32. 07:20:550 (10,11) - Rotate these -90 degrees with selection center as origin, it would make the flow nicer . okay

This still needs more polish and mods to be ready, it's really fun but it can be better with some more work and mods.
GL

1. Legendary
2. Relentless
3. Ceaseless
4. Vindictive
5. Maybe some synonyms or words pertaining to being relentless, which match the title and lyrics of the song about persisting onward despite all the chaos etc. etc. Just some ideas really!

1. 00:26:550 (1,2,3,4) - How about spacing them like all your patterns before?
2. 00:28:950 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern improvement suggestion if you're interested:
   
   
   

   127,179,28950,6,8,P|145:232|133:280,1,105,14|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   49,235,29250,1,10,0:3:0:0:
   224,300,29400,2,0,P|192:352|148:368,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   39,139,29700,1,0,0:0:0:0:

3. 00:30:450 (3) - How about moving this to 312||165 to blanket slider 6? It would totally match your next pattern with 00:31:650 (3,6) - . Since you wanted to emphasize 4 with a jump, how about moving slider 4 a bit more to the left 00:30:300 (2,4) - to blanket circle 2 as well? Would improve the overall structure here at little cost.
4. 00:32:250 (6,1) - I feel like you should try and emphasize the finish on 1 with a larger jump. This DS is especially small compared to similar patterns.
5. 00:32:850 (3,4) - Here too, I feel like a larger jump is more appropriate since you mapped a larger jump with: 00:30:450 (3,4) - and 00:31:650 (3,4) - too.
6. 00:36:600 (4,5,6) - I hate to say this because of how you've set up this pattern, but the jump from 4>5 doesn't really emphasize anything whereas slider 6 actually maps to a strong beat where a jump would make more sense.
7. 00:39:150 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,2) - Would be cool if you could get this stream to blanket slider 2 since it seems like that was your intention here at some point.
8. 00:41:100 (2,3,4,5) - How about CtrlG'ing this rhythm? Triplets feel better when they end on a white tick than on a red tick. Alternatively you could make this a 5x stream if you want, since there's a drum beat on 00:41:175 -
9. 00:43:350 (6) - The guitarist emphasizes this note so maybe increase the spacing from 5>6? You could try stacking the slider-end of 6 with circle 4. Creates a nice circular flow and gets rid of slider-body overlap.
10. 00:50:850 (2,3,4) - Same issue as brought up earlier about triplets ending on red ticks. Here too, theres a drum beat at 00:50:775 - so having a stream following the slider would be more natural imo.
11. 01:02:550 (6,7,8) - You should have a larger jump from 7>8 imo to emphasize the guitar here., Something like 01:05:250 (4,5) - is nice ;o.
12. 01:09:300 (3,8) - How about making them parallel.
13. 01:20:100 (10,11) - How about swapping them in time line to keep momentum? Since the streams right before here are rather spaced, and there are streams coming after. As it currently is, I feel players will lose momentum playing this pattern because of how closely spaced the kicksliders (basically 1/2 circles) currently are. Increasing the spacing this way will still achieve that circular flow you were creating here.
14. 01:23:475 - Circle here for triplet?
15. 01:51:450 (9,1) - Would be nice if you increased the spacing here slightly to for better emphasis onto 1. I recommend moving 9 to 125||222 and reblanketting 7. Would look a bit neater too.
    
    Reference

    
16. 01:52:650 (8,6) - Ehh, fix this stack?
17. 01:59:550 (3,7) - Fix this stack too?
18. 02:06:300 (2,3) - If you listened to my point earlier, swap these two sliders too. Same reasoning.
    02:11:850 (5) - Ctrl+G'ing this would definitely improve the flow, but it might hurt the sliders that come after. Perhaps you have another idea here? Either ways flow could be improved from 4>5 imo.
19. 02:22:800 (10,1) - Blanket?
20. 02:38:850 (2,4) - Make them parallel?
21. 02:42:450 (1) - Remove NC
22. 02:53:550 (3) - 104||31 Looks nicer. Creates a linear pattern with slider 1 and slider 2's tail.
23. 03:08:400 (1) - I feel like NC should be on 03:08:550 (2) - ...
24. 03:10:200 (3,4) - Maybe increase spacing here a bit to emphasize the vocals.
25. 03:12:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - This is a really large combo. You seem to switch from 2/1 and 1/1 measure NC's here. Maybe it wouldn't hurt to NC on 03:13:350 (8) - and 03:10:950 (7) - But this is up to you~.
26. 03:22:500 (7,8) - Stacking them really hurts the momentum you've built up. Jump instead?
27. 03:26:550 (1,3) - Nazi stack.
28. 03:32:550 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I fear this pattern might be unnecessarily difficult to read because of the amount of overlaps.
    
    Here's something I made that I think still captures what you were intending to create here:

    
    

    436,4,212850,6,0,L|364:12,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    292,124,213000,2,0,L|354:117,1,62.9999980773926
    452,34,213150,2,0,L|380:42,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    276,154,213300,2,0,L|338:147,1,62.9999980773926,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    468,61,213450,2,0,L|396:69,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    260,183,213600,2,0,L|322:176,1,62.9999980773926,8|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

    03:36:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This arrangement seems rather random to me. Is there any way you can improve your note placement here? There's a break right after here so it wouldn't hurt to rework this pattern a bit. Maybe arrange the sliders to form a pentagon? Or have them be parallel again like above^
29. 03:40:350 (7) - I feel like this should be a circle since there's an audible triplet that begins at 03:40:500 - .
30. 03:42:750 (8) - Here too, there's a very clear triplet that I would encourage you to map instead of using so many 1/2 sliders here.
31. 03:45:150 (8) - ^ Ehh. Man, you really neglect these triplets huh . I won't mention more since it seems to be a trend, but mapping the would really benegit your rhythm choice here imo because it helps bridge the gap between your 1/2 slider spam earlier like say 03:53:550 (3,4,5,6,7) - and your kick slider usage at
32. 03:55:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . I understand you're following the guitar, but adding the triplets could really add to rhythm diversity in this section.
33. 04:08:850 (3,4,5) - This doesn't really flow too well imo.
    
    How about something like this?

    
34. 04:10:950 (1,3,5) - Since structure is a growing issue with quality nowadays, How about making the distance in between the blankets of these sliders the same?
    
    Like this

    
    

    364,128,250950,6,0,P|336:84|284:72,1,105,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    256,288,251250,1,2,0:3:0:0:
    436,198,251400,2,0,P|460:150|456:98,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    188,220,251700,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    402,291,251850,2,0,P|455:294|510:264,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

35. 04:16:650 (5,6) - You should really increase the DS here because there is a strong emphasis on 6.
36. 04:29:902 (6,7,8) - These jumps are unnecessarily large imo They don't really fit the music. You don't have jumps nearly this large anywhere else in this section.
37. 05:05:100 (12,1) - Larger spacing here too? You're going to be playing those kick sliders like circles anyways, so the spacing actually decreases entering into 1, even though the guitar is emphasized on 1.
38. 05:08:250 (3) - How about 1/4 slider instead? Since there's another note on 05:08:400 - . And it seems like you're following the guitar so omitting this note would be weird.
39. 05:10:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Can you make the spacing here more consistent? 05:10:050 (1,2,3) - Is noticeably larger than 05:10:350 (4,5,6) -
40. 05:15:600 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - How about increasing spacing here to be consistent with the spacing of the stream right before it? Since there's no shift in the music that would denote a shift in spacing. (I know this is minor, but it helps with general aesthetics and improves quality)
41. 05:19:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Here too. It would be nice if you could make them more consistent. Like stacking both or spacing them both.
42. 05:42:450 (8) - NC here instead?
43. 05:43:200 (1) - Remove from here
44. 05:43:650 (4) - NC here instead.
45. 05:44:100 (1) - And remove here. I think this NC pattern will fit your rhythm better, since now everything begins on a measure and aligns with a new measure: following the guitar.
46. 05:51:075 (4,5,6) - This is a biiit sharp of an angle. I think people will have trouble with this and/or bring it up in future mods. Would it hurt to make the angle just slightly less sharp? At least make it like 120 degrees like what you did with 05:52:200 (3,4,5) - . This is already pushing it but since there's no overlap its still acceptable imo.
47. 05:59:250 (1,2,3,4) - How about making them parallel? I don't see a reason for them to be in that particular angle.
48. 06:09:150 (1) - Remove NC here, random lol.
49. 06:10:650 (9,10,11,12) - Yes yes yessss Do more of these!!!
50. 06:23:250 (5) - NC here since you're switching from following the vocals to following the drums.
51. 06:25:650 (9) - NC Since your NC rhythm here seems to be 1/1 instead of 2/1 (I think 1/1 first better too, since you used 2/1 earlier for the less-intense section. It's more intense now).
52. 06:30:300 (9) - NC Same reason^
53. 06:31:575 (15) - ^
54. 06:35:250 (8) - NC
55. 06:35:100 (7,8,9) - Also here, your spacing is a bit weird tbh. You want 8 to be the most spaced, to emphasize the start of the new line in the vocals (also cymbals) but you put a huge jump from 8>9 even though 9 isn't a strong beat at all . Here's a suggestion that will improve this spacing a bit.
    
    How about something like this.

    
56. 06:36:150 (1) - Remove NC
57. 06:36:450 (5) - NC This is when the vocal stars.
58. 06:40:050 (9) - NC
59. 06:40:800 (1) - Remove NC
60. 06:41:250 (2) - NC
61. 06:43:650 (9) - NC should be here. 06:43:950 (1) - Remove it from here.
62. 06:44:100 (2,3) - This is a bit sharp imo. You could improve the flow by rotating slider 3, like around 30-45 degrees. The jump makes sense but flow could be improved.
    
    Might be a bit hard to see, but I did something like this:

    
63. 06:44:550 (4,6) - Obligatory blanket fix.
64. 06:45:900 (3,4) - How about increasing spacing here for emphasis on the vocals?
    
    Stacking the slider-end would be cool here too

    
65. 06:45:600 (1,4) - Oh also, NC should be on 4. Remove it from 1.
66. 07:05:100 (6,7) - Increase spacing to emphasize vocals please?
67. 07:05:250 (7) - Also,. NC
68. 07:19:650 (8) - NC. You're going over 2 measures already.
69. 07:22:050 (16) - NC
70. 07:23:850 (1) - Remove NC
71. 07:24:375 (3) - NC
72. 07:26:100 (9,10) - Could increase spacing here to emphasize the bassdrum on 10.
73. 07:28:500 (9,10,11,1) - Imo this flow could be improved.
    
    How about stacking 10/11 on 5/6

    
74. 07:30:150 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Could improve this flow a bit. As well as emphasize the guitar on slider 6 and drums on 7. How about this: Ctrl+G 07:30:450 (6,7) - And then Ctrl+G 7 again after.
75. 07:35:250 (9,10) - Blankets contribute to overall quality .
76. 07:36:450 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Wooow nice. My only complaint is that the first set isn't perfectly blanketted but that's just me being a nazi.
77. 07:42:000 (10) - Ctrl+G and also 07:42:300 (12) - Ctrl+G I think this motion would flow really nice.
78. 07:49:275 - There's like a note here you could stack on the head of your last slider if you want. Weird to omit it (unless this was supposed to be mapped to the spinner, in which case it's not snapped right lol).

monstrata wrote:

As requested~ Most of the issues i brought up here can be fixed relatively easily. They were all pointed out to improve the overall quality of this map before it goes into qualified. Please, please message me in game if you have questions or anything .

Also, some suggestions for alternative diff names, since people don't seem happy about an AR 9.6 CS 4 "Legend" map .

1. Legendary
2. Relentless
3. Ceaseless
4. Vindictive
5. Maybe some synonyms or words pertaining to being relentless, which match the title and lyrics of the song about persisting onward despite all the chaos etc. etc. Just some ideas really!

Alright, lets get started: Great wall of China incoming.

[Legend]

1. 00:26:550 (1,2,3,4) - How about spacing them like all your patterns before?
2. 00:28:950 (1,2,3,4) - Pattern improvement suggestion if you're interested:
   
   
   

   127,179,28950,6,8,P|145:232|133:280,1,105,14|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   49,235,29250,1,10,0:3:0:0:
   224,300,29400,2,0,P|192:352|148:368,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
   39,139,29700,1,0,0:0:0:0:

3. 00:30:450 (3) - How about moving this to 312||165 to blanket slider 6? It would totally match your next pattern with 00:31:650 (3,6) - . Since you wanted to emphasize 4 with a jump, how about moving slider 4 a bit more to the left 00:30:300 (2,4) - to blanket circle 2 as well? Would improve the overall structure here at little cost.
4. 00:32:250 (6,1) - I feel like you should try and emphasize the finish on 1 with a larger jump. This DS is especially small compared to similar patterns.
5. 00:32:850 (3,4) - Here too, I feel like a larger jump is more appropriate since you mapped a larger jump with: 00:30:450 (3,4) - and 00:31:650 (3,4) - too.
6. 00:36:600 (4,5,6) - I hate to say this because of how you've set up this pattern, but the jump from 4>5 doesn't really emphasize anything whereas slider 6 actually maps to a strong beat where a jump would make more sense.
7. 00:39:150 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,2) - Would be cool if you could get this stream to blanket slider 2 since it seems like that was your intention here at some point.
8. 00:41:100 (2,3,4,5) - How about CtrlG'ing this rhythm? Triplets feel better when they end on a white tick than on a red tick. Alternatively you could make this a 5x stream if you want, since there's a drum beat on 00:41:175 -
9. 00:43:350 (6) - The guitarist emphasizes this note so maybe increase the spacing from 5>6? You could try stacking the slider-end of 6 with circle 4. Creates a nice circular flow and gets rid of slider-body overlap.
10. 00:50:850 (2,3,4) - Same issue as brought up earlier about triplets ending on red ticks. Here too, theres a drum beat at 00:50:775 - so having a stream following the slider would be more natural imo.
11. 01:02:550 (6,7,8) - You should have a larger jump from 7>8 imo to emphasize the guitar here., Something like 01:05:250 (4,5) - is nice ;o.
12. 01:09:300 (3,8) - How about making them parallel.
13. 01:20:100 (10,11) - How about swapping them in time line to keep momentum? Since the streams right before here are rather spaced, and there are streams coming after. As it currently is, I feel players will lose momentum playing this pattern because of how closely spaced the kicksliders (basically 1/2 circles) currently are. Increasing the spacing this way will still achieve that circular flow you were creating here.
14. 01:23:475 - Circle here for triplet?
15. 01:51:450 (9,1) - Would be nice if you increased the spacing here slightly to for better emphasis onto 1. I recommend moving 9 to 125||222 and reblanketting 7. Would look a bit neater too.
    
    Reference

    
16. 01:52:650 (8,6) - Ehh, fix this stack?
17. 01:59:550 (3,7) - Fix this stack too?
18. 02:06:300 (2,3) - If you listened to my point earlier, swap these two sliders too. Same reasoning.
    02:11:850 (5) - Ctrl+G'ing this would definitely improve the flow, but it might hurt the sliders that come after. Perhaps you have another idea here? Either ways flow could be improved from 4>5 imo.
19. 02:22:800 (10,1) - Blanket?
20. 02:38:850 (2,4) - Make them parallel?
21. 02:42:450 (1) - Remove NC
22. 02:53:550 (3) - 104||31 Looks nicer. Creates a linear pattern with slider 1 and slider 2's tail.
23. 03:08:400 (1) - I feel like NC should be on 03:08:550 (2) - ...
24. 03:10:200 (3,4) - Maybe increase spacing here a bit to emphasize the vocals.
25. 03:12:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - This is a really large combo. You seem to switch from 2/1 and 1/1 measure NC's here. Maybe it wouldn't hurt to NC on 03:13:350 (8) - and 03:10:950 (7) - But this is up to you~.
26. 03:22:500 (7,8) - Stacking them really hurts the momentum you've built up. Jump instead?
27. 03:26:550 (1,3) - Nazi stack.
28. 03:32:550 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I fear this pattern might be unnecessarily difficult to read because of the amount of overlaps.
    
    Here's something I made that I think still captures what you were intending to create here:

    
    

    436,4,212850,6,0,L|364:12,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    292,124,213000,2,0,L|354:117,1,62.9999980773926
    452,34,213150,2,0,L|380:42,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    276,154,213300,2,0,L|338:147,1,62.9999980773926,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    468,61,213450,2,0,L|396:69,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    260,183,213600,2,0,L|322:176,1,62.9999980773926,8|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

    03:36:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This arrangement seems rather random to me. Is there any way you can improve your note placement here? There's a break right after here so it wouldn't hurt to rework this pattern a bit. Maybe arrange the sliders to form a pentagon? Or have them be parallel again like above^
29. 03:40:350 (7) - I feel like this should be a circle since there's an audible triplet that begins at 03:40:500 - .
30. 03:42:750 (8) - Here too, there's a very clear triplet that I would encourage you to map instead of using so many 1/2 sliders here.
31. 03:45:150 (8) - ^ Ehh. Man, you really neglect these triplets huh . I won't mention more since it seems to be a trend, but mapping the would really benegit your rhythm choice here imo because it helps bridge the gap between your 1/2 slider spam earlier like say 03:53:550 (3,4,5,6,7) - and your kick slider usage at
32. 03:55:500 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . I understand you're following the guitar, but adding the triplets could really add to rhythm diversity in this section.
33. 04:08:850 (3,4,5) - This doesn't really flow too well imo.
    
    How about something like this?

    
34. 04:10:950 (1,3,5) - Since structure is a growing issue with quality nowadays, How about making the distance in between the blankets of these sliders the same?
    
    Like this

    
    

    364,128,250950,6,0,P|336:84|284:72,1,105,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    256,288,251250,1,2,0:3:0:0:
    436,198,251400,2,0,P|460:150|456:98,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    188,220,251700,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    402,291,251850,2,0,P|455:294|510:264,1,105,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

35. 04:16:650 (5,6) - You should really increase the DS here because there is a strong emphasis on 6.
36. 04:29:902 (6,7,8) - These jumps are unnecessarily large imo They don't really fit the music. You don't have jumps nearly this large anywhere else in this section.
37. 05:05:100 (12,1) - Larger spacing here too? You're going to be playing those kick sliders like circles anyways, so the spacing actually decreases entering into 1, even though the guitar is emphasized on 1.
38. 05:08:250 (3) - How about 1/4 slider instead? Since there's another note on 05:08:400 - . And it seems like you're following the guitar so omitting this note would be weird.
39. 05:10:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Can you make the spacing here more consistent? 05:10:050 (1,2,3) - Is noticeably larger than 05:10:350 (4,5,6) -
40. 05:15:600 (6,7,8,9,10,1) - How about increasing spacing here to be consistent with the spacing of the stream right before it? Since there's no shift in the music that would denote a shift in spacing. (I know this is minor, but it helps with general aesthetics and improves quality)
41. 05:19:650 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Here too. It would be nice if you could make them more consistent. Like stacking both or spacing them both.
42. 05:42:450 (8) - NC here instead?
43. 05:43:200 (1) - Remove from here
44. 05:43:650 (4) - NC here instead.
45. 05:44:100 (1) - And remove here. I think this NC pattern will fit your rhythm better, since now everything begins on a measure and aligns with a new measure: following the guitar.
46. 05:51:075 (4,5,6) - This is a biiit sharp of an angle. I think people will have trouble with this and/or bring it up in future mods. Would it hurt to make the angle just slightly less sharp? At least make it like 120 degrees like what you did with 05:52:200 (3,4,5) - . This is already pushing it but since there's no overlap its still acceptable imo.
47. 05:59:250 (1,2,3,4) - How about making them parallel? I don't see a reason for them to be in that particular angle.
48. 06:09:150 (1) - Remove NC here, random lol.
49. 06:10:650 (9,10,11,12) - Yes yes yessss Do more of these!!!
50. 06:23:250 (5) - NC here since you're switching from following the vocals to following the drums.
51. 06:25:650 (9) - NC Since your NC rhythm here seems to be 1/1 instead of 2/1 (I think 1/1 first better too, since you used 2/1 earlier for the less-intense section. It's more intense now).
52. 06:30:300 (9) - NC Same reason^
53. 06:31:575 (15) - ^
54. 06:35:250 (8) - NC
55. 06:35:100 (7,8,9) - Also here, your spacing is a bit weird tbh. You want 8 to be the most spaced, to emphasize the start of the new line in the vocals (also cymbals) but you put a huge jump from 8>9 even though 9 isn't a strong beat at all . Here's a suggestion that will improve this spacing a bit.
    
    How about something like this.

    
56. 06:36:150 (1) - Remove NC
57. 06:36:450 (5) - NC This is when the vocal stars.
58. 06:40:050 (9) - NC
59. 06:40:800 (1) - Remove NC
60. 06:41:250 (2) - NC
61. 06:43:650 (9) - NC should be here. 06:43:950 (1) - Remove it from here.
62. 06:44:100 (2,3) - This is a bit sharp imo. You could improve the flow by rotating slider 3, like around 30-45 degrees. The jump makes sense but flow could be improved.
    
    Might be a bit hard to see, but I did something like this:

    
63. 06:44:550 (4,6) - Obligatory blanket fix.
64. 06:45:900 (3,4) - How about increasing spacing here for emphasis on the vocals?
    
    Stacking the slider-end would be cool here too

    
65. 06:45:600 (1,4) - Oh also, NC should be on 4. Remove it from 1.
66. 07:05:100 (6,7) - Increase spacing to emphasize vocals please?
67. 07:05:250 (7) - Also,. NC
68. 07:19:650 (8) - NC. You're going over 2 measures already.
69. 07:22:050 (16) - NC
70. 07:23:850 (1) - Remove NC
71. 07:24:375 (3) - NC
72. 07:26:100 (9,10) - Could increase spacing here to emphasize the bassdrum on 10.
73. 07:28:500 (9,10,11,1) - Imo this flow could be improved.
    
    How about stacking 10/11 on 5/6

    
74. 07:30:150 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Could improve this flow a bit. As well as emphasize the guitar on slider 6 and drums on 7. How about this: Ctrl+G 07:30:450 (6,7) - And then Ctrl+G 7 again after.
75. 07:35:250 (9,10) - Blankets contribute to overall quality .
76. 07:36:450 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Wooow nice. My only complaint is that the first set isn't perfectly blanketted but that's just me being a nazi.
77. 07:42:000 (10) - Ctrl+G and also 07:42:300 (12) - Ctrl+G I think this motion would flow really nice.
78. 07:49:275 - There's like a note here you could stack on the head of your last slider if you want. Weird to omit it (unless this was supposed to be mapped to the spinner, in which case it's not snapped right lol).

Well, I hope this will help improve the quality of your mapset. I can see some issues with NC'ing. I only noticed about half way through though, so please feel free to poke me in game after youve gone through this mod and I can recheck for NC issues through IRC . Good luck with ranking this map Doko .