2015-07-20 20:16 pishifat: the thing that first appeared to me was spacing
2015-07-20 20:16 BOUYAAA: Yeah I get that
2015-07-20 20:16 BOUYAAA: It's pretty random isnt it
2015-07-20 20:16 pishifat: kind of
2015-07-20 20:16 pishifat: when you place jumps
2015-07-20 20:16 pishifat: they should be emphasizing the object being jumped to
2015-07-20 20:17 pishifat: when there's a jump to a sound that's not emphasized then low spacing to a sound that is emphasized it makes no sense
2015-07-20 20:17 pishifat: 00:09:349 (5,6,1) - that's a good example
2015-07-20 20:17 pishifat: 5->6 has a jump but 6->1 should have the jump
2015-07-20 20:17 pishifat: since 6 is just another drum thing but 1 is superloudfinish emphhasisy stuff
2015-07-20 20:17 BOUYAAA: Yeah I see
2015-07-20 20:18 pishifat: for this song, most of the time it's got very standard points of emphasis everywhere else
2015-07-20 20:18 pishifat: being that white ticks > red ticks
2015-07-20 20:18 pishifat: like 00:31:666 (2,3,1,2,1,2) -
2015-07-20 20:18 pishifat: is good
2015-07-20 20:18 pishifat: each white tick is being empahsized with this sort of thing and that's how it should be
2015-07-20 20:18 BOUYAAA: 00:35:691 (1,2,3,4) - this has the same issue right?
2015-07-20 20:19 BOUYAAA: ok
2015-07-20 20:19 pishifat: yea it does
2015-07-20 20:19 pishifat: there, low spacing from 2->3 would make sense
2015-07-20 20:19 pishifat: then higher from 1->2 and 3->4
2015-07-20 20:19 BOUYAAA: I see
2015-07-20 20:20 pishifat: it sounds really restricting i know
2015-07-20 20:20 BOUYAAA: No I totally get it
2015-07-20 20:20 BOUYAAA: This was one of the parts I considered remapping because it felt weird
2015-07-20 20:20 BOUYAAA: I just couldn't point out why
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: nice
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: well now you know why
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: practically every mapper doesnt really care much about this
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: so it hurts to see when maps get qualified like this
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: then qats come and say "your spacing is totally random"
2015-07-20 20:21 pishifat: and mappers get pissed
2015-07-20 20:22 pishifat: okay now that you got spacing down i'll go over uh other things
2015-07-20 20:22 BOUYAAA: Yeah I understand a bit better now
2015-07-20 20:22 BOUYAAA: okok
2015-07-20 20:23 pishifat: for the most part you do this right but
2015-07-20 20:23 pishifat: right here is a pretty gross thing 00:52:337 (5) -
2015-07-20 20:23 pishifat: you can probably guess why
2015-07-20 20:23 BOUYAAA: I guess this should be one long slider
2015-07-20 20:24 BOUYAAA: I mean you shouldn't have to press on the red tick here
2015-07-20 20:24 pishifat: clicking the red tick isn't necessarily the bad part
2015-07-20 20:24 pishifat: it's that the tick on the tail is stronger than the red tick
2015-07-20 20:24 pishifat: it's called a passive slider or something
2015-07-20 20:24 pishifat: meaning emphasis is on the tail rather than the head
2015-07-20 20:24 pishifat: so playing it is not really intuitive
2015-07-20 20:25 pishifat: since you actually click on sliderheads, giving them impact
2015-07-20 20:25 pishifat: 01:08:800 (4) - 01:09:898 (3) - are some other ones
2015-07-20 20:26 BOUYAAA: Are the two last ones really that much of a problem?
2015-07-20 20:26 BOUYAAA: This was already pointed out by someone
2015-07-20 20:26 BOUYAAA: Yeah it is
2015-07-20 20:27 pishifat: i'd say it is
2015-07-20 20:28 pishifat: your first kiai
2015-07-20 20:29 pishifat: so good
2015-07-20 20:29 BOUYAAA: To play?
2015-07-20 20:30 BOUYAAA: I seriously thought everyone would crush my dreams on this one
2015-07-20 20:30 pishifat: bpm doubles there sorta
2015-07-20 20:30 pishifat: drum pattern is just twice as fast
2015-07-20 20:30 pishifat: and you showed that really well
2015-07-20 20:30 pishifat: ok the thing that i will crush your dreams on now
2015-07-20 20:30 pishifat: is how many extended sliders you have
2015-07-20 20:31 BOUYAAA: Yay
2015-07-20 20:31 BOUYAAA: nooo
2015-07-20 20:31 BOUYAAA: not this
2015-07-20 20:31 pishifat: 00:41:544 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
2015-07-20 20:31 pishifat: these ones are fine
2015-07-20 20:32 pishifat: huh
2015-07-20 20:32 pishifat: seems like just the kiai ones are the ones that are gross
2015-07-20 20:32 pishifat: you can probably hear that you're ignoring a lot of sounds during the last kiai
2015-07-20 20:32 BOUYAAA: 01:48:130 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - These?
2015-07-20 20:33 pishifat: yea
2015-07-20 20:33 BOUYAAA: Yeah the drum sounds
2015-07-20 20:33 BOUYAAA: I think none of them are mapped
2015-07-20 20:34 pishifat: could keep the same idea easily
2015-07-20 20:34 pishifat: with like
http://i.gyazo.com/17d81f1584c70ab2b2d948c0b1420198.png2015-07-20 20:34 BOUYAAA: Yeah but everything would look ugly
2015-07-20 20:34 pishifat: im sure you could manage to make it not ugly lol
2015-07-20 20:35 pishifat: ignoring so many prominent sounds is just not gonna work prob
2015-07-20 20:35 BOUYAAA: I probably would not know what to do with these singles
2015-07-20 20:35 pishifat: could just like
2015-07-20 20:35 pishifat: stack them on the next sliders
2015-07-20 20:35 BOUYAAA: 01:27:642 (5,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Are these an issue too?
2015-07-20 20:36 BOUYAAA: Yeah I guess
2015-07-20 20:36 pishifat: yea they would be the same thing
2015-07-20 20:36 BOUYAAA: oh god
2015-07-20 20:36 BOUYAAA: I was so happy about these lol
2015-07-20 20:36 pishifat: basically all of the ones where you cover up a stronger sound in the middle of the slider are nopes
2015-07-20 20:36 pishifat: then ones where it's all silence are okay
2015-07-20 20:38 pishifat: tbh i dont have much else to say
2015-07-20 20:38 pishifat: youve got some obvious overmapping which is not really a good thing to do
2015-07-20 20:38 BOUYAAA: The snare sound should be at the end of the slider right
2015-07-20 20:38 pishifat: 00:34:227 (1,2) - these kinds of things
2015-07-20 20:39 pishifat: snare on tail works ya
2015-07-20 20:39 BOUYAAA: I kinda agree on this
2015-07-20 20:39 BOUYAAA: Any other obvious overmaps?
2015-07-20 20:39 pishifat: 00:55:081 (1,2) -
2015-07-20 20:40 BOUYAAA: ok
2015-07-20 20:40 pishifat: that looks like it
2015-07-20 20:40 pishifat: for the extended sliders you end up keeping
2015-07-20 20:40 pishifat: try setting softsampleset on the tails
2015-07-20 20:41 pishifat: makes them not as obnoxious since you're focusing on just extending them not the actual 3/4 blue tick
2015-07-20 20:42 BOUYAAA: Yeah but if I change one I might aswell change everything
2015-07-20 20:42 pishifat: it would be on the tails of all of them yea
2015-07-20 20:42 pishifat: that's what im saying lul
2015-07-20 20:43 pishifat: ok uh ive gotta go for now but whenever you wanna look at more stuff just pm me and i'll do it like this
2015-07-20 20:43 BOUYAAA: Yeah sorry I'ts almost 6am here lol
2015-07-20 20:43 BOUYAAA: Okok, thank you very much for your help
2015-07-20 20:44 BOUYAAA: This was very helpful
2015-07-20 20:44 BOUYAAA: Any way I can save this conversation?
2015-07-20 20:44 pishifat: ill post it on your thread