Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
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- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
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- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
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osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread
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Lolwtf xDIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
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- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
you forgot ChiranjeeviIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
triple support, omg yesapaffy wrote:
also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
ayyyyyyLoctav wrote:
If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).
You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
Leaving you in the dark is intended.
That would be great imo. supporting this aswellapaffy wrote:
also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
I'd love to do commentary too, if there isn't already a huge overload on the job. I think it's easy to underestimate how much there is to analyze in a game about clicking circles; there's actually quite a bit of useful commentary. Knowing the maps and what skills they require and knowing the players' strengths and weaknesses is really important and requires a pretty deep understanding of the game. Maybe we could do it like other sports/esports where there's an analytical commentator and a hype commentator, or maybe even trios. Either way, I really hope you consider getting high rank players as commentators because it makes a much bigger difference than one might think even for a game like osu!
Topic Starter
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.Loctav wrote:
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Topic Starter
Weirdly enough, I changed that all in my draft. No idea why I didnt copypaste it properly. Thanks for pointing out.nya10 wrote:
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.Loctav wrote:
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Edit: no wait, some idiots edited the ruleset. Geez.
korean :3
Yes pleasejesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
quick call friendokfartownik wrote:
you forgot ChiranjeeviIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the clientsellyme wrote:
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.
Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
I'd rather silence than them babbling on when there's nothing much to say. I agree though that we need players commentating *coughjesus*cough, because non-players just can't commentate well on something they don't know much about.
If they had the streaming client, I don't think there would be any issue with a delay.buny wrote:
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the clientsellyme wrote:
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.
Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
iirc the delay was caused because of the commentators having to watch the stream itself, instead of directly from the client. I guess that could be fixed by simply having all of the commentators spectating all the players using the client (same as the streamer does).
Topic Starter
I like how you guys discuss things that was already changed or resolved one year ago. You know that there are other world cups. You worry and assume stuff right now that has been changed already looooooong ago.
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
You are waaay too much into this. I am excited to watch the OWC too, but come on...Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Weekend's
I'd really be interested in seeing this. Not to bash on the current casters, but they really add nothing much to the livestream while most of the players jesse mentioned entertain for money via streaming. I'm sure they would serve as way better casters. MWC can kind of prove why we really need better casters, considering Mr Color, arguably the best and most enthusiastic, appears not to be casting this time.jesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?
I need to clarify that doubt please.
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.Albertol wrote:
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?
I need to clarify that doubt please.
Topic Starter
Confirming jesse's statement.
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
But that’s stupid because I’ve heard from different individuals that it is “The first 32 countries that register” and what you just said directly contradicts that. If it is like that, there should be a notification on the Registration thread that says: ‘Send your registration but keep in mind that only 32 countries will be accepted, which we will pick based on the competitiveness of the country/team’ because I know of many countries that have never participated on the OWC that were waiting for your Registration thread in order to participate. In the case that the countries that are more ‘competitive’ are registered, those countries would have lost their time and opportunity believing that they were registered for sure just to be cancelled without knowing why (Because not everyone reads the Discussion thread). Basically, very few of the countries that wanted to participate for the first time will make it. I think that is unfair imo.jesus1412 wrote:
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
deadbeat wrote:
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
But previously one player of our country asked Loctav directly because of this matter and he responded saying this: (I hope Loctav doesn’t find offensive that I revealed this PMs, if he does let me know. Sorry in advance.)
http://puu.sh/c3aiV/25b4f54e6d.png
http://puu.sh/c3akW/120c1c0ccf.png
And yes, you are right, the best teams should compete but I believe that some ‘Preliminary rounds’ to decide who’ll go would be better than this. I repeat, a lot of people will be disappointed because of this. It should have at least been mentioned beforehand.
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014. If that isn’t the case, then does it mean that a player that has more rank than I do have more privilege to participate than myself? Even when my country sent our registration first and they posted theirs days after? That is unfair in many ways.deadbeat wrote:
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
... Good.jesus1412 wrote:
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Jesse and Raiku started "petition" together with Azer, what happened with him commentating?Loctav wrote:
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Topic Starter
We had to decline Azer's offer, unfortunately.
Regarding Albertol, I want to refer to the OWC ruleset, which clearly says
Anything you need to know about this tournament is clearly stated in the ruleset. Anything that is not written down there is not in effect. Therefore, assuming that there is a "first come, first serve" while it is nowhere clearly written is not possible.
tl;dr: read the ruleset. dat irony
Edit:
Regarding Albertol, I want to refer to the OWC ruleset, which clearly says
To ensure valid and serious registrations, any registration and change will be checked by the Tournament Management.And moreover:
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
* The Game Administration may reject registrations due to the violation of the Terms of Services
The total amount of teams is 32.Any discussion about this is unneeded. Please consider, that the ruleset nowhere says "first comes, first serves" anymore, unlike the previous OWC. This rule has been removed.
Anything you need to know about this tournament is clearly stated in the ruleset. Anything that is not written down there is not in effect. Therefore, assuming that there is a "first come, first serve" while it is nowhere clearly written is not possible.
tl;dr: read the ruleset. dat irony
Edit:
I never said that. I only said that the OWC has 32 teams, therefore I only answered the first question, not the second. I didn't answer the 2nd one because it was not decided yet.Albertol wrote:
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014.
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.
Now, in respect to that rule:
Now, in respect to that rule:
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
Holy shit dude just accept there is more than 32 countries and that people are going to be let down no matter what.Albertol wrote:
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.
Now, in respect to that rule:* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
People don't want to watch a country whos best player has lower pp than even me, it's how the world works, it's the osu! world cup and people want to see the BEST players play not "We deserve to have a chance even though the average pp of our top 10 is 3088.8" players play
It doesnt matter, you've had your answer multiple times and it's literally common fucking sense.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
gg