but what if uk has to play against canada?
Make it happenjesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
silmarilen wrote:
but what if uk has to play against canada?
have my babiesjesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
Lolwtf xDIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
you forgot ChiranjeeviIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
triple support, omg yesapaffy wrote:
also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
ayyyyyyLoctav wrote:
If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).
You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
Leaving you in the dark is intended.
That would be great imo. supporting this aswellapaffy wrote:
also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.Loctav wrote:
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Weirdly enough, I changed that all in my draft. No idea why I didnt copypaste it properly. Thanks for pointing out.nya10 wrote:
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.Loctav wrote:
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.
Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.
Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Yes pleasejesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
quick call friendokfartownik wrote:
you forgot ChiranjeeviIvan wrote:
Team India
me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the clientsellyme wrote:
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
If they had the streaming client, I don't think there would be any issue with a delay.buny wrote:
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the clientsellyme wrote:
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.
Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.
Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
You are waaay too much into this. I am excited to watch the OWC too, but come on...Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Athrun_Yamato wrote:
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
I'd really be interested in seeing this. Not to bash on the current casters, but they really add nothing much to the livestream while most of the players jesse mentioned entertain for money via streaming. I'm sure they would serve as way better casters. MWC can kind of prove why we really need better casters, considering Mr Color, arguably the best and most enthusiastic, appears not to be casting this time.jesus1412 wrote:
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.
So yes, we'd love a reply.
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.Albertol wrote:
Loctav wrote:
The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.
So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?
I need to clarify that doubt please.
But that’s stupid because I’ve heard from different individuals that it is “The first 32 countries that register” and what you just said directly contradicts that. If it is like that, there should be a notification on the Registration thread that says: ‘Send your registration but keep in mind that only 32 countries will be accepted, which we will pick based on the competitiveness of the country/team’ because I know of many countries that have never participated on the OWC that were waiting for your Registration thread in order to participate. In the case that the countries that are more ‘competitive’ are registered, those countries would have lost their time and opportunity believing that they were registered for sure just to be cancelled without knowing why (Because not everyone reads the Discussion thread). Basically, very few of the countries that wanted to participate for the first time will make it. I think that is unfair imo.jesus1412 wrote:
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
deadbeat wrote:
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014. If that isn’t the case, then does it mean that a player that has more rank than I do have more privilege to participate than myself? Even when my country sent our registration first and they posted theirs days after? That is unfair in many ways.deadbeat wrote:
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
... Good.jesus1412 wrote:
Raw pp values of the registered players.Gigo wrote:
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Jesse and Raiku started "petition" together with Azer, what happened with him commentating?Loctav wrote:
Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
To ensure valid and serious registrations, any registration and change will be checked by the Tournament Management.And moreover:
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
* The Game Administration may reject registrations due to the violation of the Terms of Services
The total amount of teams is 32.Any discussion about this is unneeded. Please consider, that the ruleset nowhere says "first comes, first serves" anymore, unlike the previous OWC. This rule has been removed.
I never said that. I only said that the OWC has 32 teams, therefore I only answered the first question, not the second. I didn't answer the 2nd one because it was not decided yet.Albertol wrote:
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014.
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
Holy shit dude just accept there is more than 32 countries and that people are going to be let down no matter what.Albertol wrote:
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.
Now, in respect to that rule:* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
It doesnt matter, you've had your answer multiple times and it's literally common fucking sense.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
sadly we lost 3 very skilled norwegian players this year to "nah i don't really feel like playingMr Color wrote:
Shout out to Norway though, I'm pretty sad to see them not advance in knockout stage but you guys have nothing to regret, you did really well and I'm sure you'll be back next year with a revenge :p
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.Loctav wrote:
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.Albertol wrote:
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
atl apply, its not set in stone that you wont be accepted.Albertol wrote:
Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.
I think it's going to be the same as last year, but having these vods on youtube would really help out, as the old vods in twitch from the last owc got deleted because of the time limit.buny wrote:
Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?
Does that mean I can still e-peen from owc 2012? Yay.Loctav wrote:
We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.
aww damnLoctav wrote:
only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD
There are exams taking place on weekends? shitBlue Dragon wrote:
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exame_Naci ... M%C3%A9dioPlaatinum wrote:
There are exams taking place on weekends? shitBlue Dragon wrote:
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
wowbuny wrote:
think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.
I am a clueless person.Kyou-kun wrote:
wowbuny wrote:
think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.
It's quite easy to determine, who gets into the OWC:evan129994 wrote:
Hope no one hates me for bringing this up but I have seen it a lot in this thread. Some people dislike that its not first come first serve for registration and some do. So I have an idea. could we do somthing like top 15 teams are gaurenteed an position in next years OWC and the rest will be chosen by first come first serve? That way it would be open for "underdogs" to come in and impress?
Just giving an idea for next year.
To do so would be to denigrate the efforts of legitimate players who work hard to improve themselves for these tournamentsmeanwhile every korean except dungeon and dragonhuman who played in last owc
for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.so this means half of Asia won't be able to play?
I'm afraid they willcptnXn wrote:
for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.so this means half of Asia won't be able to play?
coughindiacoughTidek wrote:
Anyway, just hope korea wont win this time, someone have to break their winning streak (Poland, Taiwan, Germany? ;( )
Loctav said we will be notified once the registrations are closed (Too lazy to search for the post)ClawViper wrote:
"Captains will get notified in case their roster has been accepted or rejected."
May I know how long this will take?
Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?Soinou wrote:
Loctav said we will be notified once the registrations are closed (Too lazy to search for the post)ClawViper wrote:
"Captains will get notified in case their roster has been accepted or rejected."
May I know how long this will take?
You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.ClawViper wrote:
Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?
Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.Bauxe wrote:
You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.ClawViper wrote:
Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?
What if I don't know if my team has someone who won't be accepted? That seems pretty unfair. There's the chance that I register my team and I end up having it rejected just because the 8th player multiaccounted once.Loctav wrote:
Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.Bauxe wrote:
You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.
Would it possible for the captain to know whether our team has passed the background check then, regardless of whether the final team is strong enough to participate in the OWC?Blue Dragon wrote:
What if I don't know if my team has someone who won't be accepted? That seems pretty unfair. There's the chance that I register my team and I end up having it rejected just because the 8th player multiaccounted once.Loctav wrote:
Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.
noMericales wrote:
Do they really have to play with the default skin? o:
for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.Must exactly 1 year ?
Azer wrote:
Note to whom it concerns, I made a skype group for captains to organize scrims (friendly practice matches) so if you are interested, PM me your skype.
Currently in the group:
Argentina
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Finland
France
Germany
Indonesia
Japan
Latvia
Netherlands
Norway
Russia
Singapore
Sweden
Thailand
UK
Ukraine
Azer wrote:
I find it funny that only polish members have been super paranoid about it and everyone else hasn't even mentionned it
and a few months ago during cwcAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I'm kind of surprised Germany joined without questioning the medium, they got DDoS'd last year, too.
The one with most ddos win ? Seems nice o/Omgforz wrote:
next year we'll have dwc
ddos world cup
As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Azer wrote:
I find it funny that only polish members have been super paranoid about it and everyone else hasn't even mentionned it
I find it funny that you chose Skype, which was pretty much the main source of players' IP last year. At least I can't think of any other. The players who got DDoS'd during the match against China had their skype names in their userpages.
We're not paranoid, we just feel it's better to be safe than sorry.
Just imagine losing the fruit of hard work being thrown away because of some anti-fans DDoSing your team. We were pretty close to experience something like that, it came down to last seconds when the fourth available player came back.
I'm kind of surprised Germany joined without questioning the medium, they got DDoS'd last year, too.
jesus1412 wrote:
it's the fun that matters.
jesus1412 wrote:
As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.
Indeed fun is what matters, but it's not fun when you get DDoS'd in the middle of the game and you can't rejoin. Especially when there's no re-matches in case of players' drops since this year. Better safe than sorry, really. If someone wants to challenge us in a scrim, feel free to contact me via PM. We've already made one arrangement and will be facing France this Saturday btw.jesus1412 wrote:
As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.