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silmarilen

Riince wrote:

if big k and hvick didnt make their roster scary enough, Rucker and his stupid high consistency is probably going to be the biggest factor especially on getting to the finals. unless dungeon comes out of left field with the combos i dont even think korea will make it to the finals...

im really excited to see Rucker play again, he was my favorite player last owc with how hard he almost carried his team to 1st, and now that his team doesnt even really NEED to be carried he's just going to be extra horsepower on an engine that was already fixed on victory.
if anybody was the consistent one it was snowwhite, he broke combo only like once before the finals
Vuelo Eluko
yeah but you cant deny rucker kept them in it during the finals
at least, if memory serves.
blejd
go Poland :D
-Soba-
Go 'murika!!!!!
My Accuracy Sucks

-Soba- wrote:

Go 'murika!!!!!
Go commies :^)
-Soba-

My Accuracy Sucks wrote:

-Soba- wrote:

Go 'murika!!!!!
Go commies :^)
wow... and to think I once called you a friend
Bauxe

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

There isn't a single decent player doing the commentary, it will probably suck unless they do some research.

Can't you at least find one "expert" like it happens everywhere? D:
I'll do it, for obvious reasons.


Omgforz
I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.
Kert
Wait what Mr.Color won't be commentating?
/didn'treadthethread
B1rd

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

There isn't a single decent player doing the commentary, it will probably suck unless they do some research.

Can't you at least find one "expert" like it happens everywhere? D:
wasn't there some talk about lewa and jesse commentating? why don't we make that happen?

silmarilen wrote:

if anybody was the consistent one it was snowwhite, he broke combo only like once before the finals
in the matches I saw, Rucker was the one who was more consistent.
Tommy Yang

buny wrote:

win % is a higher priority though, since the team that has more wins than losses difference is going to be prioritised
But if the matches won and subsequently wins, losses difference is the same, only then is that third rule used. In that case the team with the lower win percentage will be higher ranked.

Also, coming from you, that hurts. Considering that you were the first to respond last year, and you approved of it since you actually read it that time. p/2660641
jesse1412

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.
I exist.
silmarilen
requesting kriers
Te Amo
Cookiezi made a new country just to play in the owc. He'll be playing all 4 player spots alone. It was his plan all along
fartownik

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.
Why not play and occasionally commentate some of the matches? There's plenty of good players with high English skills that would be suitable for this (you're one of them).

Or you can always invite some native British or American speakers that are skilled, but not participating in the tournament.
ToGlette
DON'T COUNT KOREA OUT 8-)
B1rd

silmarilen wrote:

requesting kriers
+1
buny

Angusman wrote:

buny wrote:

win % is a higher priority though, since the team that has more wins than losses difference is going to be prioritised
But if the matches won and subsequently wins, losses difference is the same, only then is that third rule used. In that case the team with the lower win percentage will be higher ranked.

Also, coming from you, that hurts. Considering that you were the first to respond last year, and you approved of it since you actually read it that time. p/2660641
think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.

you could probably pm loctav for a direct answer, since i'm only speculating

and how did you derive to the conclusion that I approved it? I didn't mention anything about my thought on it and it should have been clearly obvious that was a trash post
Melt3dCheeze

fartownik wrote:

Or you can always invite some native British or American speakers that are skilled, but not participating in the tournament.
What about Australian speakers? :O Don't count us out!
Lytessill

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

There isn't a single decent player doing the commentary, it will probably suck unless they do some research.

Can't you at least find one "expert" like it happens everywhere? D:
We need commentators as energetic as this http://youtu.be/6q83gj8kFco?t=20s
Although, the only thing we would hear would be "COMBO DROP" occasionally.
Melt3dCheeze
Loctav, can we get a running status on the teams who have already signed up? We're in the dark here on how much time we have left since 32 spots is really limited for the world.
Topic Starter
Loctav
If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).

You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Leaving you in the dark is intended.
fartownik
#hypeblocker
mayank0
why not just increase the limit XD
Frostmourne

B1rd wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

requesting kriers
+1
Bauxe

mayank0 wrote:

why not just increase the limit XD
Because then the tournament would be unbalanced.
mayank0
why would it be? u guys can always have more groups with the top 32 getting seeded and the rest placed with the top 32 in groups such that the groups arnt unbalanced as a whole... there could be many countries who would want to participate but might not be able to because of the limit... especially bcoz their country's pp is low, or bcoz there might be not be as many players playing the game..
Unusual-bot
thanks Loctav for doing this

Soinou

NaCulus wrote:

thanks Loctav for doing this
Not the best thing done this year. The freemod is now really good, and the possibility to ban maps is just amazing. This year, strategy will be a must to win
silmarilen

mayank0 wrote:

why would it be? u guys can always have more groups with the top 32 getting seeded and the rest placed with the top 32 in groups such that the groups arnt unbalanced as a whole... there could be many countries who would want to participate but might not be able to because of the limit... especially bcoz their country's pp is low, or bcoz there might be not be as many players playing the game..
this is the owc, this isnt a tournament where anybody can join and the best go through, this is a tournament where the best can join and the best of the best go through. if your country doesnt have high pp players then you dont belong here.
it's like letting an amature club play in the world cup football.
mayank0
atl have some qualifiers to select the unseeded ones, even the fifa wc does that... pp isnt always an accurate representation of your skill level
-Ryosuke
Supporting Korea and Poland / Germany this year!

Poland or Germany are definitely the only european countries that can make it through! #believe

god won't save the queen.

me as commentator pls
Omgforz

-Ryosuke wrote:

Poland or Germany are definitely the only european countries that can make it through! #believe
:<
mayank0
UK? :P
sellyme

silmarilen wrote:

mayank0 wrote:

why would it be? u guys can always have more groups with the top 32 getting seeded and the rest placed with the top 32 in groups such that the groups arnt unbalanced as a whole... there could be many countries who would want to participate but might not be able to because of the limit... especially bcoz their country's pp is low, or bcoz there might be not be as many players playing the game..
this is the owc, this isnt a tournament where anybody can join and the best go through, this is a tournament where the best can join and the best of the best go through. if your country doesnt have high pp players then you dont belong here.
it's like letting an amature club play in the world cup football.
No, it's like letting a lowly-ranked country compete to qualify in world cup football.

Oh wait.

Yes, only the best 32 countries should be in the World Cup, but if significantly more than 32 countries register interest, qualifiers for 17th-xxth should definitely happen.

It's probably too late for this to happen this year, but it's something I'd love to see next year.
LightoHK
4 Metro
Bauxe

mayank0 wrote:

atl have some qualifiers to select the unseeded ones, even the fifa wc does that... pp isnt always an accurate representation of your skill level
Sure, PP isn't accurate. But I am pretty sure a team of 8, all in the top 500, are going to beat a team of rank 5,000+ with ease.

Plus, there are another 3(4) other world cups too, they don't have time to do qualifier tournaments, and other things like that. If you want to be in the OWC, have a team that is good enough to be somewhat competitive in some situations.
Lytessill

Loctav wrote:

If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).

You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Leaving you in the dark is intended.

So we wont know who's playing in until November 1st?
Unusual-bot

Soinou wrote:

NaCulus wrote:

thanks Loctav for doing this
Not the best thing done this year. The freemod is now really good, and the possibility to ban maps is just amazing. This year, strategy will be a must to win
i know, but atl this tourney will be more interesting bcz the losing team in the Round 16 still have a chance to win the tourney, and i like that :D
TequilaWolf

Frostmourne wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

requesting kriers
+1
dino pls
Kert

OWC 2013 wrote:

Selection out of mod-specific brackets is limited. Each captain may only select one map from each mod-restricted bracket during the match.
This is no longer a rule, right? Just to clarify
It just wasn't mentioned in the announcement
mayank0

Bauxe wrote:

mayank0 wrote:

atl have some qualifiers to select the unseeded ones, even the fifa wc does that... pp isnt always an accurate representation of your skill level
Sure, PP isn't accurate. But I am pretty sure a team of 8, all in the top 500, are going to beat a team of rank 5,000+ with ease.

Plus, there are another 3(4) other world cups too, they don't have time to do qualifier tournaments, and other things like that. If you want to be in the OWC, have a team that is good enough to be somewhat competitive in some situations.
My point is only that let all countries have a try in atl ensuring a chance to play since this is a wc not a champions league or something.... Not always do higher ranked players get the win since osu doesn't work like that....
Bauxe

mayank0 wrote:

My point is only that let all countries have a try in atl ensuring a chance to play since this is a wc not a champions league or something.... Not always do higher ranked players get the win since osu doesn't work like that....
If you want to play, form a team good enough to compete. Simple.
Azer

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.
hi
Ritzeh

Silynn wrote:

It's something I personally would rather deal with when it happens, also, a lot of the US players have been on the edge of whether they will play or not. Along with that, there are a few players who have risen in ranking recently that I need to talk to and assess before deciding whether they get a spot on the team or not.

Basically, it's better to do these things "in the moment" rather than in advance, when people can't fully commit and I don't have all the information I need to form the best team. There's a reason we're given 3 weeks, I would like to think.

Also, some people are kind of immature.. so deciding the team beforehand will cause drama when they get left out (which I don't want to deal with. And yes, this happens.)
:^)
Omgforz

Azer wrote:

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.
hi
get your arse into the commentators booth
Topic Starter
Loctav

Kert wrote:

OWC 2013 wrote:

Selection out of mod-specific brackets is limited. Each captain may only select one map from each mod-restricted bracket during the match.
This is no longer a rule, right? Just to clarify
It just wasn't mentioned in the announcement
Yes, this isn't the case anymore. This has been replaced by the ban-mechanic.
Athrun
Australia ftw!!

And I can commentate. Been doing that everytime I watch a gundam extreme vs maxi boost replay :D

We need commoners like me
Athrun
That time of the year where every country prepare their tablets and keyboards for the fight to the death. And the audience will be killing each other about who is going to win. Every country is out there to murder the others brutally.

*sigh* I love life.
1319
dongerland dreams r.i.p
Omgforz
How long does it take for the confirmation of the registration of the team?

Is it safe to assume, that if you didn't get a confirmation after a few days your team has been declined?
Marcin

Omgforz wrote:

Is it safe to assume, that if you didn't get a confirmation after a few days your team has been declined?
Until drawings.
Omgforz

Marcin wrote:

Omgforz wrote:

Is it safe to assume, that if you didn't get a confirmation after a few days your team has been declined?
Until drawings.
Oh, alright, now I understand the system a little bit better, and I just rechecked in the wiki and it seems like I misread twice.

But the only thing which bugs me is, if anything is wrong with your team and you won't get accepted due to one player, isn't the decline message at the drawings a little too late, or do we get an earlier notice?
Marcin
UNTIL drawings, not necessarily AT.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Please give it a bit more time :P I am processing through the registrations and this takes time.
winber1
i'll join as the substitutes alternative alternate's alternative alternate's friend.
Omgforz
Alright, wasn't really planning to make this look like I'm impatient or anything, I was just making sure that I won't have my teammates hate me afterwards for being uninformed, haha.

Thanks for the answers.
GladiOol

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

We need commoners like me
we really don't
Athrun

GladiOol wrote:

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

We need commoners like me
we really don't
My life was a lie.
jesse1412
Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
silmarilen
but what if uk has to play against canada?
Kaguya Hourain

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
Make it happen
Azer

silmarilen wrote:

but what if uk has to play against canada?
kisata
also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
GladiOol
jesse commentating?? time to pick shitty maps to hear him rage
fartownik

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
have my babies
ivan
Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
mayank0

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
Lolwtf xD
fartownik

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
you forgot Chiranjeevi
Vuelo Eluko

apaffy wrote:

also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
triple support, omg yes
AutoMedic

Loctav wrote:

If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).

You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Leaving you in the dark is intended.
ayyyyyy
Dare

apaffy wrote:

also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
That would be great imo. supporting this aswell :)
pooptartsonas
I'd love to do commentary too, if there isn't already a huge overload on the job. I think it's easy to underestimate how much there is to analyze in a game about clicking circles; there's actually quite a bit of useful commentary. Knowing the maps and what skills they require and knowing the players' strengths and weaknesses is really important and requires a pretty deep understanding of the game. Maybe we could do it like other sports/esports where there's an analytical commentator and a hype commentator, or maybe even trios. Either way, I really hope you consider getting high rank players as commentators because it makes a much bigger difference than one might think even for a game like osu!
Topic Starter
Loctav
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
nya10

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.
Topic Starter
Loctav

nya10 wrote:

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.
Weirdly enough, I changed that all in my draft. No idea why I didnt copypaste it properly. Thanks for pointing out.

Edit: no wait, some idiots edited the ruleset. Geez.
Enon
korean :3
pattrik

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
Yes please :D
sellyme
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
Frostmourne

fartownik wrote:

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
you forgot Chiranjeevi
quick call friendok
buny

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the client

I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.

Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
B1rd
I'd rather silence than them babbling on when there's nothing much to say. I agree though that we need players commentating *coughjesus*cough, because non-players just can't commentate well on something they don't know much about.
Bauxe

buny wrote:

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the client

I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.

Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
If they had the streaming client, I don't think there would be any issue with a delay.
fartownik
iirc the delay was caused because of the commentators having to watch the stream itself, instead of directly from the client. I guess that could be fixed by simply having all of the commentators spectating all the players using the client (same as the streamer does).
Topic Starter
Loctav
I like how you guys discuss things that was already changed or resolved one year ago. You know that there are other world cups. You worry and assume stuff right now that has been changed already looooooong ago.
Athrun
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Gigo

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
You are waaay too much into this. I am excited to watch the OWC too, but come on...
Lytessill

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?

Weekend's
plaatinum

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
I'd really be interested in seeing this. Not to bash on the current casters, but they really add nothing much to the livestream while most of the players jesse mentioned entertain for money via streaming. I'm sure they would serve as way better casters. MWC can kind of prove why we really need better casters, considering Mr Color, arguably the best and most enthusiastic, appears not to be casting this time.
Albertol

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?

I need to clarify that doubt please.
jesse1412

Albertol wrote:

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?

I need to clarify that doubt please.
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Confirming jesse's statement.

Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Albertol

jesus1412 wrote:

~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
But that’s stupid because I’ve heard from different individuals that it is “The first 32 countries that register” and what you just said directly contradicts that. If it is like that, there should be a notification on the Registration thread that says: ‘Send your registration but keep in mind that only 32 countries will be accepted, which we will pick based on the competitiveness of the country/team’ because I know of many countries that have never participated on the OWC that were waiting for your Registration thread in order to participate. In the case that the countries that are more ‘competitive’ are registered, those countries would have lost their time and opportunity believing that they were registered for sure just to be cancelled without knowing why (Because not everyone reads the Discussion thread). Basically, very few of the countries that wanted to participate for the first time will make it. I think that is unfair imo.
deadbeat
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
Albertol

deadbeat wrote:

this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things

But previously one player of our country asked Loctav directly because of this matter and he responded saying this: (I hope Loctav doesn’t find offensive that I revealed this PMs, if he does let me know. Sorry in advance.)

http://puu.sh/c3aiV/25b4f54e6d.png
http://puu.sh/c3akW/120c1c0ccf.png

And yes, you are right, the best teams should compete but I believe that some ‘Preliminary rounds’ to decide who’ll go would be better than this. I repeat, a lot of people will be disappointed because of this. It should have at least been mentioned beforehand.
deadbeat
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
Gigo
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
jesse1412

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.
Albertol

deadbeat wrote:

Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014. If that isn’t the case, then does it mean that a player that has more rank than I do have more privilege to participate than myself? Even when my country sent our registration first and they posted theirs days after? That is unfair in many ways.


jesus1412 wrote:

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.
... Good.
Jetzu

Loctav wrote:

Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Jesse and Raiku started "petition" together with Azer, what happened with him commentating?
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