mayank0 wrote:

why would it be? u guys can always have more groups with the top 32 getting seeded and the rest placed with the top 32 in groups such that the groups arnt unbalanced as a whole... there could be many countries who would want to participate but might not be able to because of the limit... especially bcoz their country's pp is low, or bcoz there might be not be as many players playing the game..

-Ryosuke wrote:

Poland or Germany are definitely the only european countries that can make it through! #believe

silmarilen wrote:

mayank0 wrote:

why would it be? u guys can always have more groups with the top 32 getting seeded and the rest placed with the top 32 in groups such that the groups arnt unbalanced as a whole... there could be many countries who would want to participate but might not be able to because of the limit... especially bcoz their country's pp is low, or bcoz there might be not be as many players playing the game..

this is the owc, this isnt a tournament where anybody can join and the best go through, this is a tournament where the best can join and the best of the best go through. if your country doesnt have high pp players then you dont belong here.
it's like letting an amature club play in the world cup football.

mayank0 wrote:

atl have some qualifiers to select the unseeded ones, even the fifa wc does that... pp isnt always an accurate representation of your skill level

Loctav wrote:

If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).

You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Leaving you in the dark is intended.

Soinou wrote:

NaCulus wrote:

thanks Loctav for doing this

Not the best thing done this year. The freemod is now really good, and the possibility to ban maps is just amazing. This year, strategy will be a must to win

Frostmourne wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

requesting kriers

+1

OWC 2013 wrote:

Selection out of mod-specific brackets is limited. Each captain may only select one map from each mod-restricted bracket during the match.

Bauxe wrote:

mayank0 wrote:

atl have some qualifiers to select the unseeded ones, even the fifa wc does that... pp isnt always an accurate representation of your skill level

Sure, PP isn't accurate. But I am pretty sure a team of 8, all in the top 500, are going to beat a team of rank 5,000+ with ease.

Plus, there are another 3(4) other world cups too, they don't have time to do qualifier tournaments, and other things like that. If you want to be in the OWC, have a team that is good enough to be somewhat competitive in some situations.

mayank0 wrote:

My point is only that let all countries have a try in atl ensuring a chance to play since this is a wc not a champions league or something.... Not always do higher ranked players get the win since osu doesn't work like that....

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.

Silynn wrote:

It's something I personally would rather deal with when it happens, also, a lot of the US players have been on the edge of whether they will play or not. Along with that, there are a few players who have risen in ranking recently that I need to talk to and assess before deciding whether they get a spot on the team or not.

Basically, it's better to do these things "in the moment" rather than in advance, when people can't fully commit and I don't have all the information I need to form the best team. There's a reason we're given 3 weeks, I would like to think.

Also, some people are kind of immature.. so deciding the team beforehand will cause drama when they get left out (which I don't want to deal with. And yes, this happens.)

Azer wrote:

Omgforz wrote:

I don't know of any people who can commentate and play well. I hope there's somebody out there.

hi

Kert wrote:

OWC 2013 wrote:

Selection out of mod-specific brackets is limited. Each captain may only select one map from each mod-restricted bracket during the match.

This is no longer a rule, right? Just to clarify
It just wasn't mentioned in the announcement

Omgforz wrote:

Is it safe to assume, that if you didn't get a confirmation after a few days your team has been declined?

Marcin wrote:

Omgforz wrote:

Is it safe to assume, that if you didn't get a confirmation after a few days your team has been declined?

Until drawings.

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

We need commoners like me

GladiOol wrote:

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

We need commoners like me

we really don't

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.

silmarilen wrote:

but what if uk has to play against canada?

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion

apaffy wrote:

also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating

Loctav wrote:

If you wish to change your roster, send me a PM and resubmit your roster. Anyways, do this only in case someone in your team hops off or refuses to play (that's why you can still change it).

You don't need to save slots or whatever bullshit. There is no "first come, first serve". The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Leaving you in the dark is intended.

apaffy wrote:

also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.

nya10 wrote:

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.

Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.

fartownik wrote:

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
- [ u z z i ] -
- [ r a y ] -
elpedroparka
and maybe elysion

you forgot Chiranjeevi

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.

buny wrote:

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.

I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the client

I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.

Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

Albertol wrote:

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?

I need to clarify that doubt please.

jesus1412 wrote:

~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.

deadbeat wrote:

this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?

deadbeat wrote:

Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided

jesus1412 wrote:

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?

Raw pp values of the registered players.

Loctav wrote:

Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.

To ensure valid and serious registrations, any registration and change will be checked by the Tournament Management.
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
* The Game Administration may reject registrations due to the violation of the Terms of Services

The total amount of teams is 32.

Albertol wrote:

I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014.

* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.

Albertol wrote:

With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.

Now, in respect to that rule:

* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.

I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.

Mr Color wrote:

Shout out to Norway though, I'm pretty sad to see them not advance in knockout stage but you guys have nothing to regret, you did really well and I'm sure you'll be back next year with a revenge :p

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.

Loctav wrote:

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.

But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.

Albertol wrote:

Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.

buny wrote:

Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?

Loctav wrote:

We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.

Loctav wrote:

only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD

Blue Dragon wrote:

Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho

Plaatinum wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho

There are exams taking place on weekends? shit

buny wrote:

think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.

Kyou-kun wrote:

buny wrote:

think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.

wow

evan129994 wrote:

Hope no one hates me for bringing this up but I have seen it a lot in this thread. Some people dislike that its not first come first serve for registration and some do. So I have an idea. could we do somthing like top 15 teams are gaurenteed an position in next years OWC and the rest will be chosen by first come first serve? That way it would be open for "underdogs" to come in and impress?
Just giving an idea for next year.

To do so would be to denigrate the efforts of legitimate players who work hard to improve themselves for these tournaments