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Dare

apaffy wrote:

also supporting this proposed azer/jesse/raiku commentating
That would be great imo. supporting this aswell :)
pooptartsonas
I'd love to do commentary too, if there isn't already a huge overload on the job. I think it's easy to underestimate how much there is to analyze in a game about clicking circles; there's actually quite a bit of useful commentary. Knowing the maps and what skills they require and knowing the players' strengths and weaknesses is really important and requires a pretty deep understanding of the game. Maybe we could do it like other sports/esports where there's an analytical commentator and a hype commentator, or maybe even trios. Either way, I really hope you consider getting high rank players as commentators because it makes a much bigger difference than one might think even for a game like osu!
Topic Starter
Loctav
As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
nya10

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.
Topic Starter
Loctav

nya10 wrote:

Loctav wrote:

As noticed by GladiOol, there has been a typo in the ruleset.

Actually, each bracket in the pool is only consisting of 3 maps. Just NoMod is always 6 maps. Sorry for the confusion.

Edit: whoever wants to commentate, please contact me in-game and be a bit lucky (I do not reply always). I have a few requirements on people joining this, so I can not make promises.
Then, the total of the maps should be 19 per map pool, not 23.
Weirdly enough, I changed that all in my draft. No idea why I didnt copypaste it properly. Thanks for pointing out.

Edit: no wait, some idiots edited the ruleset. Geez.
Enon
korean :3
pattrik

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
Yes please :D
sellyme
The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
Frostmourne

fartownik wrote:

Ivan wrote:

Team India

me
synchrostar
kittehcommando
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elpedroparka
and maybe elysion
you forgot Chiranjeevi
quick call friendok
buny

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the client

I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.

Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
B1rd
I'd rather silence than them babbling on when there's nothing much to say. I agree though that we need players commentating *coughjesus*cough, because non-players just can't commentate well on something they don't know much about.
Bauxe

buny wrote:

sellyme wrote:

The primary thing I want to see in commentary is some kind of semblance of speed in calling - last year I regularly heard things like "[player] seems to be holding a full combo" a good 15-20 seconds after they've broken. I'm assuming it's some kind of technical issue and not just the world's worst reaction times, but it made the commentary pretty much useless, as any information they had was already redundant or false by the time the audio came through.

Beyond that I don't actually care a whole heap. Azer and jesse definitely seem like good commentator choices though.
I'm pretty sure they have delay on their part too, since they'd have to watch the person that is streaming with the client

I hate how the commentators sometimes go quiet in the middle of the song playing; it really cools down the hype and makes it less interesting to watch. Also when they discuss something completely unrelated to osu such as pepsi and popcorn, though like other game matches that have the same problem, it usually is due to lack of ingame knowledge by the commentator that they have nothing interesting to contribute to the stream.

Hopefully this year we'll get a more professional performance from the commentators, and commentators that have a bit more knowledge on what is happening.
If they had the streaming client, I don't think there would be any issue with a delay.
fartownik
iirc the delay was caused because of the commentators having to watch the stream itself, instead of directly from the client. I guess that could be fixed by simply having all of the commentators spectating all the players using the client (same as the streamer does).
Topic Starter
Loctav
I like how you guys discuss things that was already changed or resolved one year ago. You know that there are other world cups. You worry and assume stuff right now that has been changed already looooooong ago.
Athrun
Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
Gigo

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?
You are waaay too much into this. I am excited to watch the OWC too, but come on...
Lytessill

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Am I the only one planning to have no sleep at all, miss school just to watch this?

Weekend's
plaatinum

jesus1412 wrote:

Alright I guess pm's aren't the place to ask so here goes. Raiku, Azer and I have been discussing commentating the OWC this year and we'd all be happy to participate in it. People have already asked for some pro players to commentate and the three of us fit that category. We're pretty serious about it and we have a few reasons as to why it'd be good for us to do so:
1: We're all native English speakers with pretty clear voices.
2: We have all modded maps extensively, one of us is a BAT and another of us has experienced the full ranking process meaning we understand the technical aspects of maps.
3: We're fairly popular within the community so it wouldn't be bizarre to see us commentate.
4: We have experienced live streaming before and can handle the pressure very well.
5: We're GOOD PLAYERS, we know what we're talking about when we discuss how maps play and which areas are difficult.
6: We have diverse playing styles and expertise within the game and hence can (as a group) relate to neigh all of the players in some way.
7: We will most likely all be participating in the OWC and hence can convey the feelings of the players via our own experiences.
8: We've all been around for a long time and have knowledge of the games history.

So yes, we'd love a reply.
I'd really be interested in seeing this. Not to bash on the current casters, but they really add nothing much to the livestream while most of the players jesse mentioned entertain for money via streaming. I'm sure they would serve as way better casters. MWC can kind of prove why we really need better casters, considering Mr Color, arguably the best and most enthusiastic, appears not to be casting this time.
Albertol

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?

I need to clarify that doubt please.
jesse1412

Albertol wrote:

Loctav wrote:

The most competitive teams registered will be accepted. The teams will be released after registration phase.

So that means that even though my country has sent the first request than others, if the team has "low rank" or isn't "very competitive rank", will not be selected?

I need to clarify that doubt please.
~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Confirming jesse's statement.

Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Albertol

jesus1412 wrote:

~Yes, if 32 stronger countries register.
But that’s stupid because I’ve heard from different individuals that it is “The first 32 countries that register” and what you just said directly contradicts that. If it is like that, there should be a notification on the Registration thread that says: ‘Send your registration but keep in mind that only 32 countries will be accepted, which we will pick based on the competitiveness of the country/team’ because I know of many countries that have never participated on the OWC that were waiting for your Registration thread in order to participate. In the case that the countries that are more ‘competitive’ are registered, those countries would have lost their time and opportunity believing that they were registered for sure just to be cancelled without knowing why (Because not everyone reads the Discussion thread). Basically, very few of the countries that wanted to participate for the first time will make it. I think that is unfair imo.
deadbeat
this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things
Albertol

deadbeat wrote:

this is the owc! world cup. it makes sense to have the top 32 teams enter into the competition. it was "The first 32 countries that register" last year i believe, but this is a much better way of doing things

But previously one player of our country asked Loctav directly because of this matter and he responded saying this: (I hope Loctav doesn’t find offensive that I revealed this PMs, if he does let me know. Sorry in advance.)

http://puu.sh/c3aiV/25b4f54e6d.png
http://puu.sh/c3akW/120c1c0ccf.png

And yes, you are right, the best teams should compete but I believe that some ‘Preliminary rounds’ to decide who’ll go would be better than this. I repeat, a lot of people will be disappointed because of this. It should have at least been mentioned beforehand.
deadbeat
Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
Gigo
I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
jesse1412

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.
Albertol

deadbeat wrote:

Preliminary rounds shouldn't be needed imo. The tournament management will have a way of identifying the top 32 teams for entry. also there people will be disappointed no matter how this is done. it's a simple fact that can't be avoided
I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014. If that isn’t the case, then does it mean that a player that has more rank than I do have more privilege to participate than myself? Even when my country sent our registration first and they posted theirs days after? That is unfair in many ways.


jesus1412 wrote:

Gigo wrote:

I am curious about something. Let's say that 31 of the spots are already taken and several countries of very similar "competitiveness value" are fighting for the last spot. Who decides then which country will get it? I mean, we can't use https://osu.ppy.sh/p/countryranking as a reference value, because that page hasn't been updated in a while, so... how is it decided?
Raw pp values of the registered players.
... Good.
Jetzu

Loctav wrote:

Anyways, added Raiku and jesse as commentators.
Jesse and Raiku started "petition" together with Azer, what happened with him commentating?
Topic Starter
Loctav
We had to decline Azer's offer, unfortunately.

Regarding Albertol, I want to refer to the OWC ruleset, which clearly says

To ensure valid and serious registrations, any registration and change will be checked by the Tournament Management.
* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
* The Game Administration may reject registrations due to the violation of the Terms of Services
And moreover:

The total amount of teams is 32.
Any discussion about this is unneeded. Please consider, that the ruleset nowhere says "first comes, first serves" anymore, unlike the previous OWC. This rule has been removed.
Anything you need to know about this tournament is clearly stated in the ruleset. Anything that is not written down there is not in effect. Therefore, assuming that there is a "first come, first serve" while it is nowhere clearly written is not possible.

tl;dr: read the ruleset. dat irony

Edit:

Albertol wrote:

I think you are ignoring the fact that in the puush that I posted it says clearly that the first 32 countries that would send the registration would have been the ones to get into the OWC 2014.
I never said that. I only said that the OWC has 32 teams, therefore I only answered the first question, not the second. I didn't answer the 2nd one because it was not decided yet.
Albertol
With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.

Now, in respect to that rule:

* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
Illkryn

Albertol wrote:

With all due respect I think there was a mistake by responding like that to the PM, you should have clarified that that rule was not yet decided and because of that you were not capable of giving me an answer. That user and many others that have seen those puush understood that you answered positively to both questions asked, it would be better to make things clear next time. I apologize if I said any comment out of place.

Now, in respect to that rule:

* The Tournament Management may reject registrations due to insufficient gameplay abilities.
I would want you and only you (Loctav) to respond this next question to end my commentaries about this issue: Are you saying that the countries that have mostly average players simply won’t have a chance to enter the OWC 2014 if the other countries with more skilled players enter?
Holy shit dude just accept there is more than 32 countries and that people are going to be let down no matter what.
People don't want to watch a country whos best player has lower pp than even me, it's how the world works, it's the osu! world cup and people want to see the BEST players play not "We deserve to have a chance even though the average pp of our top 10 is 3088.8" players play
Albertol
I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
Illkryn

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
It doesnt matter, you've had your answer multiple times and it's literally common fucking sense.
Makan1
I am very confident in HK's ability this year. last year was disappointing : :

gg
-GN
From last year's thread:

Mr Color wrote:

Shout out to Norway though, I'm pretty sad to see them not advance in knockout stage but you guys have nothing to regret, you did really well and I'm sure you'll be back next year with a revenge :p
sadly we lost 3 very skilled norwegian players this year to "nah i don't really feel like playing :(", almost our whole default players group. Still, we'll be able to deliver a strong performance since i'm the captain because of our allaround mod skill.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.
Albertol

Loctav wrote:

Albertol wrote:

I said Loctav, not Illkryn.
But he's right. This is a world cup. This is the best of the best vs the best of the best. If your teams and even your country's players are just mediocre, you won't get accepted. The only way to occupy a slot is to improve your and your mate's skills and then try again.
Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.
mayank0

Albertol wrote:

Ok. Good luuck Asia and Europe. It's your OWC.
atl apply, its not set in stone that you wont be accepted.
buny
Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?
Omgforz

buny wrote:

Are there going to be any VODs this year? And are they going to be uploaded onto another streaming site i.e. youtube?
I think it's going to be the same as last year, but having these vods on youtube would really help out, as the old vods in twitch from the last owc got deleted because of the time limit.

I'm all for having them on youtube.
Topic Starter
Loctav
We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.
CXu

Loctav wrote:

We have them all locally stored (the past ones and in future also the new ones) and will see if we can upload it somewhere.
Does that mean I can still e-peen from owc 2012? Yay.
Topic Starter
Loctav
only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD
Novalogic
Maybe we'll get a messiah syndrome again this year, and see rrtyui solo carry Japan to the title like Cookiezi did for Korea in his time :D

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Niko where are you ~~
plaatinum
Singapore roster fully confirmed! Hopefully we do better than a 1 map win last year~
CXu

Loctav wrote:

only the ones streamed on osulive, sorry xD
aww damn :(
Lytessill
Hope no one hates me for bringing this up but I have seen it a lot in this thread. Some people dislike that its not first come first serve for registration and some do. So I have an idea. could we do somthing like top 15 teams are gaurenteed an position in next years OWC and the rest will be chosen by first come first serve? That way it would be open for "underdogs" to come in and impress?
Just giving an idea for next year.
Gigo
I remember having this discussion last year too. "Oh, well how about the top X teams get guaranteed a spot in the next year's OWC and the others will be handled on a first-come-first-serve basis". And here we are again this year, discussing the same stuff. Ahh, the good old days...

Seriously though, at least the top 4 teams should be guaranteed a participation in the next OWC. It's more than fair. Because... yeah, top 15 is a bit too much.
Lytessill
The only issue I could think of would be if a country was gaurenteed a spot and their entire team switch the year after.
Froslass
Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
plaatinum

Blue Dragon wrote:

Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
There are exams taking place on weekends? shit
Froslass

Plaatinum wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Brazil may have issues to participate (dunno if it's been already said on the thread, too lazy to read) because of an annual exam for high school students that will happen exactly on the same day as the OWC group stage games. I hope we get this solved asap tho
There are exams taking place on weekends? shit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exame_Naci ... M%C3%A9dio

Note that even though wiki says "non-mandatory", it's pretty much obligatory to enter any college here.

BTW, people just told me that Loctav asked us to wait until drawings so we can have the schedules alright for us to play. That seems fair enough.
Kittles
So excited :)
I'm betting on Taiwan or Poland.
Ohrami

buny wrote:

think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.
wow
Pandobra

Kyou-kun wrote:

buny wrote:

think of it this way,
there is a possibility to win from 0 to 12 maps, which is the main focus of the prioritisation
sure they could have the same (maps won - maps loss), but the team with the most maps won should win. Why? Because they had scores closer to winning than the other team.
If the teams were playing BO1 instead of BO7, it would be a different story because that's directly correlated to win%.
wow
I am a clueless person.
Topic Starter
Loctav

evan129994 wrote:

Hope no one hates me for bringing this up but I have seen it a lot in this thread. Some people dislike that its not first come first serve for registration and some do. So I have an idea. could we do somthing like top 15 teams are gaurenteed an position in next years OWC and the rest will be chosen by first come first serve? That way it would be open for "underdogs" to come in and impress?
Just giving an idea for next year.
It's quite easy to determine, who gets into the OWC:

The top 32 valid team registrations with the highest average team performance points will make it into the OWC. Keep in mind that some teams might get disbanded and must be refounded even due to high performance because of this.
Vuelo Eluko
To do so would be to denigrate the efforts of legitimate players who work hard to improve themselves for these tournaments
meanwhile every korean except dungeon and dragonhuman who played in last owc

but in all seriousness, that just means any offences related to illegit account activities like multi accounting or cheating, right? I don't see how something like having a lot of silences, even if it is 'disruptive' makes a player less legit or hard working. Kinda feel the same about multi accing too but necessity is what it is so i understand that one.
cptnXn
for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.
so this means half of Asia won't be able to play?
AmaiHachimitsu

cptnXn wrote:

for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.
so this means half of Asia won't be able to play?
I'm afraid they will

Adamqs was told when unbanned that he will be able to compete in official tournaments. I like how objective the rules are :D Though well, all the better for Poland ^^
Tidek

Loctav wrote:

Keep in mind that some teams might get disbanded and must be refounded even due to high performance because of this.
I have to be careful next year. ;3


Anyway, just hope korea wont win this time, someone have to break their winning streak (Poland, Taiwan, Germany? ;( )
Synchrostar

Tidek wrote:

Anyway, just hope korea wont win this time, someone have to break their winning streak (Poland, Taiwan, Germany? ;( )
coughindiacough
ClawViper
"Captains will get notified in case their roster has been accepted or rejected."

May I know how long this will take?
Soinou

ClawViper wrote:

"Captains will get notified in case their roster has been accepted or rejected."

May I know how long this will take?
Loctav said we will be notified once the registrations are closed (Too lazy to search for the post)
ClawViper

Soinou wrote:

ClawViper wrote:

"Captains will get notified in case their roster has been accepted or rejected."

May I know how long this will take?
Loctav said we will be notified once the registrations are closed (Too lazy to search for the post)
Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?
Bauxe

ClawViper wrote:

Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?
You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Bauxe wrote:

ClawViper wrote:

Wouldn't it be way too late to change a member if the roster has been rejected by then?
You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.
Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.
Froslass

Loctav wrote:

Bauxe wrote:

You get rejected if your team isn't going to be strong competition (ie. out of the top 32 teams). So if you get rejected, you wouldn't be able to play anyway.
Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.
What if I don't know if my team has someone who won't be accepted? That seems pretty unfair. There's the chance that I register my team and I end up having it rejected just because the 8th player multiaccounted once.
ClawViper

Blue Dragon wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Or if you put all multiaccounters and cheaters into your roster.
What if I don't know if my team has someone who won't be accepted? That seems pretty unfair. There's the chance that I register my team and I end up having it rejected just because the 8th player multiaccounted once.
Would it possible for the captain to know whether our team has passed the background check then, regardless of whether the final team is strong enough to participate in the OWC?
silmarilen
#cow
mooooooo
Fensh
Do they really have to play with the default skin? o:
Rewben2

Mericales wrote:

Do they really have to play with the default skin? o:
no
Suikami
for a minimum of 1 year from the time of your most recent offense.
Must exactly 1 year ?
Novalogic
In short - Do you want to compete? Defeat administration first! :D
Azer
Note to whom it concerns, I made a skype group for captains to organize scrims (friendly practice matches) so if you are interested, PM me your skype.


Currently in the group:

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Finland
France
Germany
Indonesia
Japan
Latvia
Netherlands
Norway
Russia
Singapore
Sweden
Thailand
UK
Ukraine
AmaiHachimitsu

Azer wrote:

Note to whom it concerns, I made a skype group for captains to organize scrims (friendly practice matches) so if you are interested, PM me your skype.


Currently in the group:

Argentina
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
Finland
France
Germany
Indonesia
Japan
Latvia
Netherlands
Norway
Russia
Singapore
Sweden
Thailand
UK
Ukraine

massive DDoS during OWC incoming
Azer
I find it funny that only polish members have been super paranoid about it and everyone else hasn't even mentionned it
AmaiHachimitsu

Azer wrote:

I find it funny that only polish members have been super paranoid about it and everyone else hasn't even mentionned it

I find it funny that you chose Skype, which was pretty much the main source of players' IP last year. At least I can't think of any other. The players who got DDoS'd during the match against China had their skype names in their userpages.


We're not paranoid, we just feel it's better to be safe than sorry.

Just imagine losing the fruit of hard work being thrown away because of some anti-fans DDoSing your team. We were pretty close to experience something like that, it came down to last seconds when the fourth available player came back.


I'm kind of surprised Germany joined without questioning the medium, they got DDoS'd last year, too.
Nwolf

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I'm kind of surprised Germany joined without questioning the medium, they got DDoS'd last year, too.
and a few months ago during cwc


makes sense
Omgforz
next year we'll have dwc

ddos world cup
Soinou

Omgforz wrote:

next year we'll have dwc

ddos world cup
The one with most ddos win ? Seems nice o/
jesse1412

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Azer wrote:

I find it funny that only polish members have been super paranoid about it and everyone else hasn't even mentionned it

I find it funny that you chose Skype, which was pretty much the main source of players' IP last year. At least I can't think of any other. The players who got DDoS'd during the match against China had their skype names in their userpages.


We're not paranoid, we just feel it's better to be safe than sorry.

Just imagine losing the fruit of hard work being thrown away because of some anti-fans DDoSing your team. We were pretty close to experience something like that, it came down to last seconds when the fourth available player came back.


I'm kind of surprised Germany joined without questioning the medium, they got DDoS'd last year, too.
As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.
Azer

jesus1412 wrote:

it's the fun that matters.
AmaiHachimitsu

jesus1412 wrote:

As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.


fun of what, being DDoS'd?
fartownik

jesus1412 wrote:

As did we, it's a bother but at the end of the day it's the fun that matters.
Indeed fun is what matters, but it's not fun when you get DDoS'd in the middle of the game and you can't rejoin. Especially when there's no re-matches in case of players' drops since this year. Better safe than sorry, really. If someone wants to challenge us in a scrim, feel free to contact me via PM. We've already made one arrangement and will be facing France this Saturday btw.
pooptartsonas
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd say it's a hell of a lot more frustrating than it is fun being ddosed, even though I wasn't even the one having the issues. Losing legitimately feels so much better than losing because you couldn't even participate properly.
Te Amo
Keep going guys, shits getting good.
jesse1412
The OWC is about interacting with the worlds best players and enjoying yourselves. Hence why we're in a group together in order to organize things for our players.
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Loctav
Better don't use Skype :P
cptnXn
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... ?t=4601733

also pretty sure that Skype patched something

i still want to use it because its such a bother without the group, if i get hit again i will be pretty sad but whatever
primrose
what I didn't know you can use Skype as a source of IP?
GladiOol

Fallist wrote:

what I didn't know you can use Skype as a source of IP?
well, now you do know
pooptartsonas
I believe Skype did patch it but I don't think it prevents people who know what they're doing if I'm informed correctly. I think if you configure it properly with what cptnXn posted it will work for anyone who isn't on your contacts though? I'd like to think that it was random "fans", not the actual teams, who were ddosing, so hopefully that's enough even with a Skype group for scrims. I guess we'll find out.
buny
Why not just create a separate thread for scrims?
AmaiHachimitsu

buny wrote:

Why not just create a separate thread for scrims?
Skype is fun
Omgforz
we like to live dangerously 8-)
Athrun

Omgforz wrote:

we like to live dangerously 8-)
Can confirm
GladiOol
It's all fun and games 'till somebody gets DDoSed.
pooptartsonas
Wow all these daredevils in the OWC, I'm not sure if I can take the heat.
Vuelo Eluko

pooptartsonas wrote:

Wow all these daredevils in the OWC, I'm not sure if I can take the heat.
with youth comes a feeling of invincibility
they'll probably regret it
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