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wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix) [Osu|Taiko]

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Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.
Finally, again. :D
Asagi
Tangina i rank na to putek
StickyPicky

Asagi wrote:

Tangina i rank na to putek
Please someone translate this ^ lol
Frostmourne
General
seems good ヾ(@^▽^@)ノ

Fr33z3R's Easy
AR 3-3.5 could do great job here. 4 is too fast imo.
mostly about new combo at some positions that I find a bit strange.
01:09:910 (1) - remove NC
01:21:138 (1) - remove NC
03:29:910 (1) - remove NC
03:32:717 (1) - remove NC
03:38:331 (1) - remove NC
03:52:366 (1) - remove NC
04:13:068 (2,3) - finish should be swapped here like you did on 04:07:454 (2,3) -
04:17:630 (1) - remove NC
mostly about 1 combo and NC again afterwards. It can destroy the HP drain the most. I highly suggest you fix all of them if possible. Don't forget to be aware of colorhax you did there too.

neonat's Normal
00:55:173 (2) - there is still significant vocal on 00:54:998 like what you have done placing sliders on such 00:49:384 (2) - 00:52:191 (2) - so keep it similar to the previous you did so it won't confuse players for Normal diff one.
Great vocal followed diff.

Hard
AR 7.5 feels better so please give it a try
the rest is fine~

AI's Extra
HP-7 could be better on this because it has a number of NCs. The HP drain could be harsh in some parts.
You could rename the diff to "AI's Insane" as it doesn't play much differently from Insane and the star rating shows that it should be an Insane.
From 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
I highly suggest you change to this way. The end of sliders for 01:22:542 (4) - and 01:23:068 (8) - have really strong beats on there. Making it able to be hit by using a circle and placing using triplet on such points will tend to be much more easier to read as 01:22:191 (1,2,3) - suggested in the first time.
I hope you get what I mean from the picture... If not, I will elaborate.
02:33:770 (7,8,9,10) - spacings there are quite hard to read in some parts, example, 02:33:770 (7,8) - between these should be far more than 02:34:121 (9,10) - if you see the timeline of beat placement.
I suggest you add a new combo on 02:33:770 (7) - and move it to around x:232 y:236
02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo.
02:52:366 (4,5,6,7) - similar to 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
Something like this
03:22:191 (4) - this really needs NC because spacing is changed drastically with the rhythm you used.
03:22:542 (3,1) - jump too far? just in my opinion..

Insane
03:21:489 (1) - you may try this rhythm instead. The current one is a bit hard to read because it actually has no sound on 03:21:928 so I suggest you try this rhythm to see if you would like to change it or not.
03:22:893 (1) - the music itself doesn't guide that obviously that it is going to be this slower. I suggest you make a stop jump and then place a slider later this way.
Players would tend to react in time and get understood to the change from combo color change between these two notes 03:22:893 (1,2) -
so they will not tend to slip on the suddenly slow slider like I did in test play.

Feel free to ask TicClick for a rebubble and I will rank afterwards, just to make sure everything is rechecked carefully ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ
neonat
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[General]
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Title:World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix)
TitleUnicode:ワールズエンド・ダンスホール (ROCKETMAN Remix)
Artist:wowaka
ArtistUnicode:wowaka
Creator:Mira-san
Version:neonat's Normal
Source:
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120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,128,255524,2,0,P|155:95|81:105,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:
Kyouren
Ranked plz~
TicClick
что ты тут делаешь?
Topic Starter
Mira-san
None of these 'updates' are submitted properly. Hahaha. :(
The maps change, but the first post doesn't.



This is so fun.
TicClick
[AI's Extra]
  1. 01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
  2. 01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
  3. "02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
  4. 02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
  5. 03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
  6. 03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
  7. 03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
  8. 03:41:138 (5) - new combo?
REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):
Topic Starter
Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

[AI's Extra]
  1. 01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
  2. 01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
  3. "02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
  4. 02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
  5. 03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
  6. 03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
  7. 03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
  8. 03:41:138 (5) - new combo?
REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):
Applied lolzozlozlzo ;)
DakeDekaane
Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[ Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks.

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1).

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals
01:38:858 (39) - ^
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[ Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1).

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) -
01:34:296 (27,28,29) -
01:36:051 (39) -
01:38:507 (55) -
01:39:296 (59) -
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) -
01:44:121 (97) -
01:45:524 (106,107) -
01:50:524 (135) -
01:51:226 (139,140) -

:!: 02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.
Stefan

DakeDekaane wrote:

Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[ Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm. Did stuff here.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks. So simple the idea, so great the effect. Changed this secting

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here. Yes, did that here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing. Ehrrrruhmmmm... I think it's clearer now what I intended to focus.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated. Yes Yes Yes, done here.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns. Good thing for the vocal.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1). Hard decision but yes, agree.

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals hmhmhm I think I will remove 01:33:244 (15) instead. But I will think about your suggestion to remove this one as well.
01:38:858 (39) - ^ Done.
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^ Same like 01:32:893 (13,15).

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[ Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here. I partly agree, 1.60x is pretty cool for Kiai so I will keep it there. For the rest it will be 1.40x.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here. Done here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long. I don't agree here. That's a fairly appropriate lenght of combos.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^ ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this. Removed.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot. Good, remove some notes, made some changes and yep.. replied on the things below.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1). ~

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) - ~
01:34:296 (27,28,29) - No. They're pretty fine here
01:36:051 (39) - ~
01:38:507 (55) - ~
01:39:296 (59) - Removed 01:38:858 instead.
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) - nope.
01:44:121 (97) - ~
01:45:524 (106,107) - Triplet fits well with vocal/music in general.
01:50:524 (135) - Removed 01:50:086 instead.
01:51:226 (139,140) - Sounds quite empty then.

:!: 02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it. changed to ddkkddkkkkD.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.
Thanks. http://puu.sh/byQri/cf10dbed40.rar
Topic Starter
Mira-san
aha haha

Finally, I've seen this happen again.

TicClick
Rebubbled again! I hope Taiko is alright now.
Squigly
ranked soon hopefully V:
Frostmourne
Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png

I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.

Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Frostmourne wrote:

Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png
Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.
Fixed. :o

Frostmourne wrote:

I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.
Considering how this map got un-qualified due to "map icons", it looks like we're going to have a problem.
Stefan

Frostmourne wrote:

Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png
Can anyone slap this Ste...fa...an guy...... Ugh



About the Easy Diff: 1.99 is pretty high actually but it isn't actually unrankable because the rule says to not left out a Difficulty between the spread. So you have NNHII atm which shouldn't be unrankable but then check carefully about the Easy Diff.

EDIT: Checked the Easy Diff. @Fr33z3R: In my opinion - and you do NOT have to agree with me - you could lower the density of the hitobjects. Sometimes it feels a bit overfilled compared with other parts and let it looks a bit too hasty. And if you changes to your Diff, please add clap on 00:11:665 (2). Otherwise, Mira-san should do that instead.
Frostmourne
aha.. feel free to take an opinion from Stefan and consider whether you would like to reduce or not. I suggest you reduce the note density though but not a must. Icons here are arranged in consecutive order so it's fine unlike the one Mira-San gave out as it stepped over a Normal icon.

Let me know ~~
Topic Starter
Mira-san
I will try to work on that sometime today. :| Nah. I don't want to change a lot of things. 8-)

@Frostmourne: "Mira-'s'an" or just Mira would do. /me runs
neonat
mira-San
Topic Starter
Mira-san

neonat wrote:

mira-San
aaaaaaaaaaa

edit:

Stefan


Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Stefan wrote:



Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol
Yay. \o/ Not really.
blaterwolf
popped again lol :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

edit:

Frostmourne wrote:

Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way.
#Fr33z3R
#neonat
#PoppedAgain
neonat
Really now.
Frostmourne
Congratulation for your first qualify :) !
Good luck for getting it ranked safely~~~~
Gravey-
Congratz!~ :) Such tho~
TicClick
yay finally
thank you for your patience, Mira-san!
Asagi
PUTANG INA MO GRATZ!!!
NARANK N RIN HAHAHA
Frostmourne
Oh snap

I found some mistake after looking at it again when something is wrongly snapped at 04:16:314 (1) - (AI's Extra)
will re-rank quickly after it gets fixed :(
Stefan
Congrats Mira-san! :D

It has been a Long road
Hanjamon
Congratz to all ^^

neonat

Hanjamon wrote:

Congratz to all ^^

Mine too lols
Frostmourne
sheela
Yay! Congrats Mira-san!
Stefan

Frostmourne wrote:

haha I love you for that .gif :D
Topic Starter
Mira-san
SPOILER
It got unqualified but whatever.

Thank you everyone! (Everyone on the 'Special Thanks' box) and everyone who atleast posted in this thread.

Thank you to those who accepted testplays before (even the crappy ones before).: Lots of ppl. (Mekakushi Dan Members, Sinch, etc.)

Thank you to those who supported this map since I started making this map from the worst to 'atleast decent'.: guineaQ, Asagi, Kamidachi, and basically everyone on the front page.

And thank you to those who contributed a lot. As in a lot. Just to make this map better (at the final moment).: TicClick

Thank you for ranking this map and responded whenever I asked.: Frostmourne

Frostmourne wrote:

Now let the 1-week trial begin. :D
Lach
Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest. Here's a new one anyway http://puu.sh/bDTki/2ff9f91294.wav

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
Frostmourne

Lach wrote:

Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.
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