wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix) [Osu|Taiko]‬ · forum‬

Ciyus Miapah

3,028 posts

Joined June 2013

Ciyus Miapah 2014-08-20T12:16:32+00:00

neonat wrote:
Had the same situation for my map xD

hue

Hollow Wings

1,514 posts

Joined July 2010

Hollow Wings 2014-08-24T05:39:10+00:00

from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

AI's Extra

why not mute the slider track's hs?
00:24:998 (2) - hmm i should say this arrow is overlapped by that note, change it plz
04:02:191 (1) - ^

Insane

00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo
02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here
03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one
03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g
composing's really random lol

Hard

00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo
01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol
01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow
02:49:910 (4,1) - ^
03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here

neonat's Normal

00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap
01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here?
01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket
01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe

Fr33z3R's Easy

01:48:858 (4,2) - stack, and blanket 01:49:559 (1,2) - maybe, other stuffs like this as well

that sb lol

good luck

Mira-san

1,038 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-08-24T06:46:43+00:00

Hollow Wings wrote:
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

Insane
00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo | Anti-flow intended.
02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here | Nah lol.
03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one | I just ctrl+g'd (2). imo it's better lol.
03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g | Would make a crappy flow imo.
composing's really random lol | This diff is an overhaul (note how it's not a 'remap') of a remap of a remap. So yeah you could say that.

Hard
00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo | Okay.
01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol | Cuz no.
01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow | Why not? It's readable imo and I've seen others play it without having any problems on that part.
02:49:910 (4,1) - ^ | ^
03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here | Yes, that part should use a 1/8 repeat slider but I intentionally used 1/4 because idk it can be confusing for newer players imo.

that sb lol | At its finest. Or probably not.

good luck

Thanks! (sentimental skyscraper plzzz)

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-08-24T17:10:08+00:00

Hollow Wings wrote:
neonat's Normal
00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap adjusted
01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here? end with vocal
01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket k
01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe Not going to blanket

Thanks

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Mira-san

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Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-08-26T14:09:27+00:00

Updated.

Stefan

Global Moderator

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Stefan 2014-08-31T01:05:56+00:00

mintong will post the IRC Log we had.

Oni: http://puu.sh/beNHa/9168d1a723.txt
Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/beNJq/21426c3214.txt

They only have the Hitobjects so don't make a mess!

mintong89

3,699 posts

Joined July 2011

mintong89 2014-08-31T01:07:28+00:00

SPOILER

08:18 mintong89: Actually I can bubble it by fix some pattern but ddK kkD such pattern is really bothering me, orz
08:19 mintong89: Mira-san's mapset
08:20 Stefan: If you want we can do IRC 
08:20 Stefan: Because sometimes I don't really get the point.. :D
08:26 Stefan: However if these pattern aren't that good at all then I fix them
08:26 Stefan: Have to take a closer look
08:27 mintong89: I can't say it aren't good but I don't know how to really explain
08:27 mintong89: it's quite rare?
08:27 Stefan: If it plays weird, unconfortable, just not fitting
08:27 Stefan: Then it isn't good
08:27 Stefan: Is it one of these things?
08:29 mintong89: it's play uncomfortable, because it's rare, so some player might can't read to it then no enough time to switch finger
08:29 mintong89: That's what I think
08:31 Stefan: Hmm okay
08:31 mintong89: 00:22:191 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128) - The stream sound weird, how about kdddkkdkkddkd
08:32 mintong89: kkddkkdkkddkd is fine too
08:33 Stefan: I take the first one.
08:33 mintong89: ok
08:34 Stefan: And removed Finish from 00:23:244 (128).
08:38 mintong89: 02:41:489 (102) - k here to follow vocal?
08:39 Stefan: okay.
08:39 mintong89: 02:59:559 (233) - it sound just like 02:59:734 (234) - here (drum clap), so I think it's no need to change to d
08:39 mintong89: drum snare*
08:39 Stefan: Well... the voice is deeper here so I've put d here.
08:40 mintong89: hmm ok then
08:40 Stefan: But I think this isn't worth it.
08:40 Stefan: Changed~
08:40 mintong89: ok haha
08:40 mintong89: 03:25:700 - k here and 03:26:402 - here? you did k at all white line
08:41 mintong89: 03:23:595 (157,160,164) - 
08:41 mintong89: 03:27:103 (170,174) - 
08:41 mintong89: 03:31:314 (188,190) - here too, change to k
08:43 Stefan: Done
08:43 mintong89: i guess just these
08:43 mintong89: please check ddK kkD pattern, then we go to Muzuakshii
08:49 mintong89: beginning seem to more 1/4 note
08:49 mintong89: 00:12:016 - => 00:33:068 -
08:49 mintong89: 01:53:068 - => 02:15:524 - try use the pattern at here?
08:49 mintong89: or the end is fine too
08:50 mintong89: too more*
08:51 Stefan: So.. I should use some more 1/4 in these parts?
08:52 mintong89: no, the beginning is too more 1/4 pattern if compare to chorus, 01:53:068 - and 03:45:349 -
08:52 Stefan: Oh
08:52 mintong89: sorry, my english is suck x_x
08:53 Stefan: Nah, don't worry
08:53 Stefan: But I think it's fine because if I would decrease the Triplets the Muzu would be too easy
08:53 Stefan: compared to Oni
08:56 mintong89: then makes more hard to chorus?
08:57 Stefan: I did
08:59 mintong89: hmm ok
09:00 mintong89: do it and give it to mira-san
09:00 mintong89: i'll recheck again
09:06 Stefan: Done
09:06 Stefan: Are you going to post the log?
09:06 mintong89: ah sure, I'm already forget

Call me back to recheck then.

Mira-san

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Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-08-31T02:56:59+00:00

Updated.

Thanks!

mintong89

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mintong89 2014-08-31T03:24:20+00:00

Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~

Stefan

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Stefan 2014-08-31T03:25:45+00:00

mintong89 wrote:
Bubbled!~

How I do feel at the moment

Mira-san

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Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-08-31T03:26:08+00:00

mintong89 wrote:
Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~

Ok. FINALLY. hauehauehae

mintong89

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mintong89 2014-08-31T03:33:48+00:00

Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.

Mira-san

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Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-08-31T03:34:49+00:00

mintong89 wrote:
Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.

My bad. hahah

Yumeno Himiko

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Yumeno Himiko 2014-08-31T06:21:12+00:00

gratz for the bubble！！

AruOtta

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AruOtta 2014-08-31T11:12:45+00:00

GOOOO \:D/

izzydemon

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izzydemon 2014-08-31T11:28:01+00:00

FINALLY GOD DAMN

Eni

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Eni 2014-08-31T11:59:44+00:00

Kenterz wrote:
GOOOO \:D/

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-08-31T13:42:54+00:00

Thanks for the support everyone.

sheela

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sheela 2014-08-31T13:44:10+00:00

Finally!

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-02T14:20:28+00:00

[General]

Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images. ← this is what I found in Ranking Criteria. Having an image with bigger dimensions is pointless, because it'll be downscaled (in case of 1366×768 it will be exactly 960×540) and then upscaled and only then used. It'll also reduce folder's size, so please consider using this (1366×768, filesize reduced) or this (960×540).

[AI's Extra]

00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?)
00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why?

What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -
00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish
01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow

[Insane]

00:06:402 − 00:11:665 — this is oddly hitsounded. You can clearly hear the clapping sound appearing on 2nd and 4th white ticks, not on 1st: http://puu.sh/bidqL/81e58c1b84.jpg
00:19:033 (1) - well, its end looks broken. How about you consider a better (at least it looks better to me) shape: http://puu.sh/bidDe/df4f6de393.jpg
00:33:770 (3,4,5,6,1) - there's a clear 1/4 beat inthe background, yet you left it unmapped. Why?
01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs to be 1 + 3 + 1 + 3, according to vocals you're trying to follow: http://puu.sh/biepy/6b594af984.jpg
01:41:840 (1) - you skipped a finish
02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as before; remove (2) to get a correct notes placement
03:11:665 (1) - you skipped a finish
03:22:893 (1) - consider using drum finish

idk I like it even though you mapped only a few vocal parts the way they should've been mapped

[Hard]

02:21:840 (2,3,4,5,6) - shouldn't these have equal spacing?
02:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5) - same, you keep switching between 0.8? and 0.6
03:17:980 (3,4) - may be too harsh for a Hard, consider reducing it

[neonat's Normal]

00:12:016 (5) - that'd be cool to use a new combo here, because the storyboard gains colour exactly at this time
02:35:173 (1,2) - why did you use claps on vocals? They're horrible to listen to, and I am pretty sure you wanted to put a clap on 02:36:226 (3) - 's head
02:52:016 (1,2) - same as above
02:54:823 (1,1) - ^
03:12:717 (4) - missed a clap?

[Fr33z3R's Easy]
OD-1

00:11:665 (2) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat at 00:12:016
00:34:472 (7) - should have a new combo instead of 00:34:823 (1) -
00:37:279 (2) - same

well whatever, I'll just paste lolcubes' words as a good explanation:

Generally, every combo should be a part of a section as a whole, usually one or two measures (stanzas) long. This may not always be the case (there are times when you can have a single note in a combo which fits, it all depends on what the objects follow in the music), however comboing should not be random.
A lot of mapping styles tend to use their own new combo placements and the purpose of a new combo may have shifted it's meaning, but it's still easy to notice if the comboing makes no sense. Starting a new musical section with, lets say an object with a number 6, doesn't really make much sense.

AND NOW BACK TO MODDING (I ASSUME YOU FIXED ALL NEW COMBO PROBLEMS AFTER CHECKING THE WHOLE DIFFICULTY BY YOURSELF)
00:55:524 (3) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat on its end
01:42:191 (2) - reverse it? plays a bit better, I think
01:53:419 - you don't need this offset
04:02:191 (7) - missed finish
04:13:419 (5) - ^ (also remove clap, sounds out of place)

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

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neonat 2014-09-03T09:33:45+00:00

Changed some claps, added the new combo

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
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Creator:Mira-san
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36,224,203244,2,0,P|40:188|52:164,2,45.0000019401311,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,232,203945,2,0,L|180:216,1,45.0000019401311
204,192,204296,2,0,L|268:188,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,208,204647,2,0,L|340:192,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,156,204998,2,0,P|408:140|448:152,2,90.0000038802622,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206226,5,0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206402,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,28,206928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,28,207103,2,0,P|72:36|52:84,1,90.0000038802622,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,112,207805,2,0,P|99:142|44:152,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,236,208507,86,0,L|100:316,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,340,209033,2,0,L|184:356,1,45.0000019401311,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,280,209559,2,0,L|280:280,1,45.0000019401311,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,312,209910,2,0,L|360:300,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,272,210261,2,0,L|424:280,2,45.0000019401311,2|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,210963,2,0,L|216:168,1,90.0000038802622,0|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,211840,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,212016,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212717,2,0,P|344:100|384:72,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,16,213419,2,0,P|464:12|508:60,1,90.0000038802622
480,132,214121,86,0,L|480:240,1,90.0000038802622,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,268,214647,1,4,0:0:0:0:
484,312,214823,2,0,P|460:344|412:348,1,90.0000038802622,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,332,215349,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,304,215524,2,0,P|284:292|236:308,2,90.0000038802622,4|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216577,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216928,6,0,P|404:192|368:104,1,135.000005820393,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,108,217630,2,0,P|280:120|232:104,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,20,218331,2,0,P|268:12|316:24,2,90.0000038802622,4|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,80,219384,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,156,219735,86,0,L|164:244,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,276,220437,2,0,L|156:348,1,90.0000038802622,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,340,221138,2,0,L|32:364,4,45.0000019401311,2|0|2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,252,222191,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,192,222542,21,4,0:0:0:0:
304,84,223244,1,4,0:0:0:0:
160,192,223945,1,4,0:0:0:0:
248,176,224296,1,4,0:0:0:0:
328,212,224647,2,0,B|400:200|448:236|512:212,1,180.000007760524,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,188,236577,5,4,0:0:0:0:
296,116,236928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,108,237103,2,0,P|380:112|412:232,1,180.000000894069,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,196,237980,2,0,P|324:264|480:296,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,144,239384,2,0,P|505:188|505:256,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,356,240787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,360,241489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,196,242191,86,0,P|65:163|121:145,2,90.0000004470345,4|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,300,243595,2,0,P|232:248|100:148,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,332,244998,2,0,P|40:228|60:176,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,32,246402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,32,247103,1,2,0:0:0:0:
260,184,247805,6,0,P|312:196|332:324,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,308,248858,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,296,249209,2,0,L|-12:248,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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240,76,250612,85,0,0:0:0:0:
316,16,250963,1,2,0:0:0:0:
412,24,251314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,80,251665,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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400,124,253068,1,2,0:0:0:0:
396,220,253419,6,0,P|344:276|236:248,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,192,254472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-03T14:27:01+00:00

Updated. Major changes within the Insane. Thank you.

_AI

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_AI 2014-09-07T12:48:11+00:00

TicClick wrote:
[General]
[AI's Extra]
00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?) Fixed! My bad mistake...
00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why? Why is it confusing you? It fit just the way I thought.

What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -

00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish Fixed
01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow
Fixed

Mira-san : http://puu.sh/bpfti/3450a80736.osu

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-08T13:14:58+00:00

Updated. Thanks!

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-08T18:39:30+00:00

_AI wrote:

00:37:279 (1,2) - why do you insist on keeping this? Patterns like this one need to follow vocals, which are on 3/4:

You should really, really consider to map it properly. Even Insane, which is easier than Extra, has all of these patterns fixed, so that they match the vocaloid's voice now, and it has resulted in a much better play experience one can achieve while playing the map.

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-10T14:37:01+00:00

Recheck

[AI's Extra]

00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
01:50:963 (1) - same as above
02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
02:30:963 (1) - ^
02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
04:02:191 (1) - ^

[Insane]

00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
04:08:068 - map it!

[Hard]

00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
00:50:173 (2) - ^
00:51:226 (9) - ^
00:54:033 (5) - ^
00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
01:13:682 (9) - ^
01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
04:00:787 (8) - ^
04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
04:04:998 (4) - add NC
04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?

[Fr33z3R's Easy]

00:11:665 (2) - add clap
00:12:016 (3) - add NC? looks cool, just like on neonat's

Once again, I'll ask you to go through the whole difficulty and add new combos ONLY on downbeats (big white ticks), removing the rest of them that don't follow this requirement.

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-11T10:13:29+00:00

TicClick wrote:
Recheck

[Insane]
00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
04:08:068 - map it!
[Hard]
00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
00:50:173 (2) - ^
00:51:226 (9) - ^
00:54:033 (5) - ^
00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
01:13:682 (9) - ^
01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
04:00:787 (8) - ^
04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
04:04:998 (4) - add NC
04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?

I'm actually too lazy to deny something lol.
Thanks!

_AI

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_AI 2014-09-11T15:11:56+00:00

TicClick wrote:
Recheck

[AI's Extra]
00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
01:50:963 (1) - same as above
02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
02:30:963 (1) - ^
02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
04:02:191 (1) - ^
[/list]

Done everything!
Mira-san : http://puu.sh/buI9e/528a6449de.osu

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-12T12:15:39+00:00

okay, sooooo here are m,y (probably) last complaints.

You don't need epilepsy warning!

[Fr33z3R's Easy]

00:12:016 (1) - make it green, and 00:23:244 (1) - too
01:01:489 (1,2) - idk if that's needed, a full break would probably be better

[Hard]

03:46:752 (7) - NC missing, remove from 03:47:279 (1) -
03:59:384 (3) - NC missing, remove from 03:59:208 (1) -
04:00:787 (6) - NC missing, remove from 04:01:314 (1) -

[AI's Extra]

00:37:630 (2) - missing clap
00:38:682 (6) - forgot to extend by 1/4
02:03:945 (6) - head is missing a clap. Also add it to the head of 02:03:770 (5) - if you wish
03:21:314 (7,1,2) - awful to read because 7-1 has higher spacing than 1-2, and 7-1 are 1/2 apart, while 1-2 are 3/4 apart. Looks like a spacing error, could be fixed by moving 03:21:489 (1) - up and left, so it forms a square of some kind: http://puu.sh/bvRnS/f273b12a53.jpg
03:57:279 (2) - forgot to remove clap

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-12T13:54:18+00:00

double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.

Mira-san

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Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-09-12T13:55:22+00:00

TicClick wrote:
double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.

Finally, again.

Asagi

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Joined March 2013

Asagi 2014-09-12T13:55:55+00:00

Tangina i rank na to putek

StickyPicky

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StickyPicky 2014-09-12T14:12:39+00:00

Asagi wrote:
Tangina i rank na to putek

Please someone translate this ^ lol

Frostmourne

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Frostmourne 2014-09-12T15:10:47+00:00

General
seems good ヾ(@^▽^@)ノ

Fr33z3R's Easy
AR 3-3.5 could do great job here. 4 is too fast imo.
mostly about new combo at some positions that I find a bit strange.
01:09:910 (1) - remove NC
01:21:138 (1) - remove NC
03:29:910 (1) - remove NC
03:32:717 (1) - remove NC
03:38:331 (1) - remove NC
03:52:366 (1) - remove NC
04:13:068 (2,3) - finish should be swapped here like you did on 04:07:454 (2,3) -
04:17:630 (1) - remove NC
mostly about 1 combo and NC again afterwards. It can destroy the HP drain the most. I highly suggest you fix all of them if possible. Don't forget to be aware of colorhax you did there too.

neonat's Normal
00:55:173 (2) - there is still significant vocal on 00:54:998 like what you have done placing sliders on such 00:49:384 (2) - 00:52:191 (2) - so keep it similar to the previous you did so it won't confuse players for Normal diff one.

SPOILER

Great vocal followed diff.

Hard
AR 7.5 feels better so please give it a try
the rest is fine~

AI's Extra
HP-7 could be better on this because it has a number of NCs. The HP drain could be harsh in some parts.
You could rename the diff to "AI's Insane" as it doesn't play much differently from Insane and the star rating shows that it should be an Insane.
From 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
I highly suggest you change to this way. The end of sliders for 01:22:542 (4) - and 01:23:068 (8) - have really strong beats on there. Making it able to be hit by using a circle and placing using triplet on such points will tend to be much more easier to read as 01:22:191 (1,2,3) - suggested in the first time.

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I hope you get what I mean from the picture... If not, I will elaborate.
02:33:770 (7,8,9,10) - spacings there are quite hard to read in some parts, example, 02:33:770 (7,8) - between these should be far more than 02:34:121 (9,10) - if you see the timeline of beat placement.
I suggest you add a new combo on 02:33:770 (7) - and move it to around x:232 y:236

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02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo.
02:52:366 (4,5,6,7) - similar to 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
Something like this

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03:22:191 (4) - this really needs NC because spacing is changed drastically with the rhythm you used.
03:22:542 (3,1) - jump too far? just in my opinion..

Insane
03:21:489 (1) - you may try this rhythm instead. The current one is a bit hard to read because it actually has no sound on 03:21:928 so I suggest you try this rhythm to see if you would like to change it or not.

SPOILER

03:22:893 (1) - the music itself doesn't guide that obviously that it is going to be this slower. I suggest you make a stop jump and then place a slider later this way.
Players would tend to react in time and get understood to the change from combo color change between these two notes 03:22:893 (1,2) -
so they will not tend to slip on the suddenly slow slider like I did in test play.

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Feel free to ask TicClick for a rebubble and I will rank afterwards, just to make sure everything is rechecked carefully ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-09-12T15:47:15+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix).mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2012
PreviewTime: 90606
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix)
TitleUnicode:ワールズエンド・ダンスホール (ROCKETMAN Remix)
Artist:wowaka
ArtistUnicode:wowaka
Creator:Mira-san
Version:neonat's Normal
Source:
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[Difficulty]
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Kyouren

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Joined October 2012

Kyouren 2014-09-13T08:07:34+00:00

Ranked plz~

TicClick

Global Moderator

4,466 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2014-09-13T11:34:07+00:00

что ты тут делаешь?

Mira-san

1,038 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-09-13T14:54:25+00:00

None of these 'updates' are submitted properly. Hahaha.

The maps change, but the first post doesn't.

This is so fun.

TicClick

Global Moderator

4,466 posts

Joined February 2011

TicClick 2014-09-13T15:14:52+00:00

[AI's Extra]

01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
"02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
03:41:138 (5) - new combo?

REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):

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Mira-san 2014-09-14T05:34:44+00:00

TicClick wrote:
[AI's Extra]
01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
"02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
03:41:138 (5) - new combo?
REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):

Applied lolzozlozlzo

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DakeDekaane 2014-09-14T08:35:56+00:00

Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[

Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks.

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1).

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals
01:38:858 (39) - ^
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[

Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1).

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) -
01:34:296 (27,28,29) -
01:36:051 (39) -
01:38:507 (55) -
01:39:296 (59) -
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) -
01:44:121 (97) -
01:45:524 (106,107) -
01:50:524 (135) -
01:51:226 (139,140) -

02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.

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Stefan 2014-09-14T15:23:36+00:00

DakeDekaane wrote:
Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[ Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm. Did stuff here.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks. So simple the idea, so great the effect. Changed this secting

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here. Yes, did that here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing. Ehrrrruhmmmm... I think it's clearer now what I intended to focus.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated. Yes Yes Yes, done here.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns. Good thing for the vocal.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1). Hard decision but yes, agree.

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals hmhmhm I think I will remove 01:33:244 (15) instead. But I will think about your suggestion to remove this one as well.
01:38:858 (39) - ^ Done.
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^ Same like 01:32:893 (13,15).

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[ Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here. I partly agree, 1.60x is pretty cool for Kiai so I will keep it there. For the rest it will be 1.40x.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here. Done here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long. I don't agree here. That's a fairly appropriate lenght of combos.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^ ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this. Removed.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot. Good, remove some notes, made some changes and yep.. replied on the things below.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1). ~

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) - ~
01:34:296 (27,28,29) - No. They're pretty fine here
01:36:051 (39) - ~
01:38:507 (55) - ~
01:39:296 (59) - Removed 01:38:858 instead.
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) - nope.
01:44:121 (97) - ~
01:45:524 (106,107) - Triplet fits well with vocal/music in general.
01:50:524 (135) - Removed 01:50:086 instead.
01:51:226 (139,140) - Sounds quite empty then.

02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it. changed to ddkkddkkkkD.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.

Thanks. http://puu.sh/byQri/cf10dbed40.rar

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Mira-san 2014-09-15T01:32:59+00:00

aha haha

Finally, I've seen this happen again.

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-15T05:47:12+00:00

Rebubbled again! I hope Taiko is alright now.

Squigly

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Squigly 2014-09-15T16:36:39+00:00

ranked soon hopefully V:

Frostmourne

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Frostmourne 2014-09-15T18:56:21+00:00

Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png

I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.

Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-16T09:43:13+00:00

Frostmourne wrote:
Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png
Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.

Fixed.

Frostmourne wrote:
I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.

Considering how this map got un-qualified due to "map icons", it looks like we're going to have a problem.

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Stefan 2014-09-16T09:53:29+00:00

Frostmourne wrote:
Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png

Can anyone slap this Ste...fa...an guy...... Ugh

About the Easy Diff: 1.99 is pretty high actually but it isn't actually unrankable because the rule says to not left out a Difficulty between the spread. So you have NNHII atm which shouldn't be unrankable but then check carefully about the Easy Diff.

EDIT: Checked the Easy Diff. @Fr33z3R: In my opinion - and you do NOT have to agree with me - you could lower the density of the hitobjects. Sometimes it feels a bit overfilled compared with other parts and let it looks a bit too hasty. And if you changes to your Diff, please add clap on 00:11:665 (2). Otherwise, Mira-san should do that instead.

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Frostmourne 2014-09-16T15:53:52+00:00

aha.. feel free to take an opinion from Stefan and consider whether you would like to reduce or not. I suggest you reduce the note density though but not a must. Icons here are arranged in consecutive order so it's fine unlike the one Mira-San gave out as it stepped over a Normal icon.

Let me know ~~

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Mira-san 2014-09-16T23:41:14+00:00

~~I will try to work on that sometime today.~~ Nah. I don't want to change a lot of things.

@Frostmourne: "Mira-'s'an" or just Mira would do. /me runs

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neonat 2014-09-17T00:40:44+00:00

mira-San

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Mira-san 2014-09-17T01:35:30+00:00

neonat wrote:
mira-San

aaaaaaaaaaa

edit:

Stefan

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Stefan 2014-09-17T11:58:31+00:00

Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-17T12:08:20+00:00

Stefan wrote:

Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol

Yay. \o/ Not really.

blaterwolf

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blaterwolf 2014-09-18T03:19:03+00:00

popped again lol

edit:

Frostmourne wrote:
Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way.

#Fr33z3R
#neonat
#PoppedAgain

neonat

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neonat 2014-09-18T04:01:12+00:00

Really now.

Frostmourne

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Frostmourne 2014-09-18T10:30:06+00:00

Congratulation for your first qualify

!
Good luck for getting it ranked safely~~~~

Gravey-

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Gravey- 2014-09-18T10:35:22+00:00

Congratz!~

Such

tho~

TicClick

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TicClick 2014-09-18T10:38:26+00:00

yay finally
thank you for your patience, Mira-san!

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Asagi 2014-09-18T10:38:31+00:00

PUTANG INA MO GRATZ!!!
NARANK N RIN HAHAHA

Frostmourne

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Frostmourne 2014-09-18T10:41:04+00:00

Oh snap

I found some mistake after looking at it again when something is wrongly snapped at 04:16:314 (1) - (AI's Extra)
will re-rank quickly after it gets fixed

Stefan

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Stefan 2014-09-18T10:41:58+00:00

Congrats Mira-san!

It has been a Long road

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Hanjamon 2014-09-18T10:46:09+00:00

Congratz to all ^^

R.I.P score

neonat

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neonat 2014-09-18T10:46:51+00:00

Hanjamon wrote:
Congratz to all ^^

R.I.P score

Mine too lols

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sheela 2014-09-18T10:54:11+00:00

Yay! Congrats Mira-san!

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Stefan 2014-09-18T10:54:33+00:00

Frostmourne wrote:

haha I love you for that .gif

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Mira-san 2014-09-18T10:57:04+00:00

SPOILER

It got unqualified but whatever.

Thank you everyone! (Everyone on the 'Special Thanks' box) and everyone who atleast posted in this thread.

Thank you to those who accepted testplays before (even the crappy ones before).: Lots of ppl. (Mekakushi Dan Members, Sinch, etc.)

Thank you to those who supported this map since I started making this map from the worst to 'atleast decent'.: guineaQ, Asagi, Kamidachi, and basically everyone on the front page.

And thank you to those who contributed a lot. As in a lot. Just to make this map better (at the final moment).: TicClick

Thank you for ranking this map and responded whenever I asked.: Frostmourne

Frostmourne wrote:

Now let the 1-week trial begin.

Lach

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Lach 2014-09-18T11:03:38+00:00

Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest. Here's a new one anyway http://puu.sh/bDTki/2ff9f91294.wav

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.

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Frostmourne 2014-09-18T11:27:46+00:00

Lach wrote:
Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.

As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.

Kishidle

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Kishidle 2014-09-18T11:30:05+00:00

Congrats future-san owo

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-18T11:32:54+00:00

VoidNoodle wrote:
Congrats future-san owo

Thanks!

Frostmourne wrote:
Lach wrote:
Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.

As for this, in case this map DOES get unqualified, I will carry out the changes Lach gave me.

Thanks!

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Frostmourne 2014-09-18T11:39:47+00:00

I and Mira-san decided to take an opportunity on this for getting more mods.

My apologies for those who have taken scores orz..

Also this map will be handled by another BATs from now. Good luck Mira-san ~

Lach

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Lach 2014-09-18T11:41:32+00:00

Frostmourne wrote:
Lach wrote:
Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.

If it were up to me, none of those maps would be using this bad sample. Sadly it has become so widespread that it's difficult to make sure everyone isn't using it. A 10ms delay on the primary sample (the one used upwards of 1000 times throughout a map) causes problems with player timing quickly.

Of course the two phrasing points I mentioned can be taken or left, it's no big deal. I just thought it played awkwardly as it is. Up to Mira-san.

Last edited by Frostmourne 2014-09-18T11:43:47+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Stefan

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Stefan 2014-09-18T11:47:49+00:00

I just noticed I forgot to tell to adding my old username (TheNutritiousGuy) and its Abbreviation (TNG) as tags.. <_<

Can you add them quick?

Mira-san

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Mira-san 2014-09-18T12:49:57+00:00

Stefan wrote:
I just noticed I forgot to tell to adding my old username (TheNutritiousGuy) and its Abbreviation (TNG) as tags.. <_<

Can you add them quick?

Sure thing.

guineaQ

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guineaQ 2014-09-19T14:03:10+00:00

Incoming shat/ragestorm

EDIT: NO KDS ~~don't ask me why~~

hu3z3r'sFr33z3r's Easy

[General]
Yo NC is really funky

New C-C-Combo

I'm just gonna tell you to NC every TWO offbeats for easy, seems like you NCing EVERY THREE OBJECTS
which doesn't make sense imo

00:03:244 (1) - remove
00:03:594 (2) - add
00:04:998 (1) - remove
00:07:805 (1) - remove
00:10:612 (1) - remove
00:30:612 (1) - remove
00:32:016 (1) - remove
00:33:419 (3) - add
00:34:472 (1) - leave this one cus it's the start of the verse
00:35:875 (1) - remove
00:47:103 (1) - remove
00:49:910 (1) - remove
00:52:717 (1) - remove
00:55:524 (1) - remove
00:56:928 (2) - add
01:24:998 (1) - remove
Let's stick with NCing every two offbeats since one line of chorus is basically two offbeats
01:32:016 (1) - remove
01:49:559 (1) - remove
01:50:612 (2) - add
02:46:402 (1,2,1,2) - ill leave this one since there is quite a vocal pitch change
02:52:016 (1,2,1,2,3) - same reason
03:10:261 (1) - remove
03:35:524 (1) - remove
03:55:875 (1) - remove
04:00:787 (1) - remove
04:06:402 (1) - remove
04:12:016 (1) - remove

Patterns & Cyanide & Cancer lololol

00:00:787 (1) - Is it necessary to start with reverse slider?
00:07:454 (3,1) - inconsistent spacing imo (is 0.7x difference negligible? ~~looks negligible~~)
00:23:244 (1) - I don't think opening up with reverse slider is gut idea
01:27:805 (1) - blanket isn't perfect
01:35:524 (3) - yuuuh ^^
02:04:296 (1) - ^^ derp
02:08:156 (2,4) - inconsistent spacing in easy?
02:15:524 (5) - x:208 y:108

Hitsound

00:00:787 (1) - whistle on beginning
00:01:840 (2) - remove
00:02:191 (3) - whistle on beginning
00:04:998 (1) - whistle
00:05:700 (3) - whistle on beginning
00:24:296 - why u no hitsound
00:26:402 - you hitsounded the slider at the first slider, but not here?
00:27:805 - ^^
00:37:980 (2) - whistle at the end since you seem to put whistle where the vocal pitch gets high (pls consistency pls)
01:19:384 (1,3) - slider tick HS, without it sounds empty (cus u did it once, you should keep doing it)
01:24:647 (2) - add clap
01:46:051 (1) - consistency pls
01:46:051 (1) - finish at the end
02:04:296 (1) - slider tick HS, again, u already did it once, so keep doing it for consistency
02:07:103 (1,3) - ^^
02:12:717 (1,3) - ^^
02:53:770 (1,3) - add whistles
03:33:419 (3,4) - add whistles
03:39:033 (3) - clap at the end just doesn't sound right to me
03:52:016 (2) - clap
03:53:419 (4) - clap
03:59:384 (1,1) - tick HS
04:03:945 (2) - clap
04:04:647 (4) - welp this whistle-clap is random
04:04:998 (1,1) - tick HS
04:10:612 (1,1) - CONSISTENCY PLS (well you are inconsistently consistent wtf)
04:13:068 (2) - clappu
04:16:226 (1,3) - yeeeehehhhhhhhhh

neormalneonat's Normal

this hitsound

stuffu

00:29:209 - da emptiness is very stronk
01:12:366 (3) - wtf is this 3/4 slider doing in normalu, stuffs ending or starting in blue tick can confuse the living oblivion out of newbies playing normals
01:48:858 (3) - this is just personal, i don't like using double reverse cus it can really throw some ppl off
02:46:402 (1) - WHYYYY
03:42:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - combo color to grayish?
03:44:647 (5) - I would personally make it that it's 1/1 slider and a circle at the end for emphasis (than u can use cyan for combo color for the last circle)
03:57:103 (3) - this one is like living embodiment of awkwardness

hitu soundo

00:06:402 (1) - remove clap, claps sound weird on offbeats
00:07:805 (4) - ^^ and add clap in the middle
00:09:209 (1) - pls
00:10:612 (3) - plsu
00:23:244 (1) - clap at the end
00:24:296 (3) - clap
00:24:647 (4) - clap at the end
00:25:699 (6) - clap
00:26:051 (1) - same issue, just repeat using claps every 2nd 4th white tick every offbeat
00:27:454 (4,6) - claps
00:28:507 (6) - no real cymbal crash here to support a finish, remove
00:29:910 (2) - claps
00:30:261 (3,5) - claps
00:31:665 (1,3) - claps
02:26:752 (1) - to 02:59:384 (6) - why are u using normal instead of soft?

Gonna finish the rest little by little

Last edited by guineaQ 2014-09-20T00:43:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

TicClick

Global Moderator

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TicClick 2014-09-19T18:36:57+00:00

remember not to overmod this okay thank you

Taskmaster

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Joined July 2013

Taskmaster 2014-09-19T18:44:32+00:00

Unranked again =w=

guineaQ

1,589 posts

Joined December 2013

guineaQ 2014-09-20T00:06:39+00:00

TicClick wrote:
remember not to overmod this okay thank you

relaxyou dont have to, its mostly NC hitsound focused mod.~~maybe it wasn't necessary to do this mod oh welp~~

Natsu

8,100 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2014-09-20T00:34:51+00:00

aw that priority, poke me when you feel ready

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-09-20T03:34:01+00:00

SPOILER

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Mira-san

1,038 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-09-20T04:04:33+00:00

Updated. Feels ready. Hahahaha

Mira-san

1,038 posts

Joined May 2012

Topic Starter

Mira-san 2014-09-20T04:08:51+00:00

DOUBLE POST. my bad.

guineaQ wrote:
Incoming shat/ragestorm

EDIT: NO KDS ~~don't ask me why~~ | why /me runs

~~hu3z3r's~~Fr33z3r's Easy
[General]
Yo NC is really funky | ya

New C-C-Combo

I'm just gonna tell you to NC every TWO offbeats for easy, seems like you NCing EVERY THREE OBJECTS
which doesn't make sense imo
00:03:244 (1) - remove
00:03:594 (2) - add
00:04:998 (1) - remove
00:07:805 (1) - remove
00:10:612 (1) - remove
00:30:612 (1) - remove
00:32:016 (1) - remove
00:33:419 (3) - add
00:34:472 (1) - leave this one cus it's the start of the verse
00:35:875 (1) - remove
00:47:103 (1) - remove
00:49:910 (1) - remove
00:52:717 (1) - remove
00:55:524 (1) - remove
00:56:928 (2) - add
01:24:998 (1) - remove
Let's stick with NCing every two offbeats since one line of chorus is basically two offbeats
01:32:016 (1) - remove
01:49:559 (1) - remove
01:50:612 (2) - add
02:46:402 (1,2,1,2) - ill leave this one since there is quite a vocal pitch change
02:52:016 (1,2,1,2,3) - same reason
03:10:261 (1) - remove
03:35:524 (1) - remove
03:55:875 (1) - remove
04:00:787 (1) - remove
04:06:402 (1) - remove
04:12:016 (1) - remove

Patterns & Cyanide & Cancer lololol
00:00:787 (1) - Is it necessary to start with reverse slider?
00:07:454 (3,1) - inconsistent spacing imo (is 0.7x difference negligible? ~~looks negligible~~)
00:23:244 (1) - I don't think opening up with reverse slider is gut idea
01:27:805 (1) - blanket isn't perfect
01:35:524 (3) - yuuuh ^^
02:04:296 (1) - ^^ derp
02:08:156 (2,4) - inconsistent spacing in easy?
02:15:524 (5) - x:208 y:108

Hitsound
00:00:787 (1) - whistle on beginning
00:01:840 (2) - remove
00:02:191 (3) - whistle on beginning
00:04:998 (1) - whistle
00:05:700 (3) - whistle on beginning
00:24:296 - why u no hitsound
00:26:402 - you hitsounded the slider at the first slider, but not here?
00:27:805 - ^^
00:37:980 (2) - whistle at the end since you seem to put whistle where the vocal pitch gets high (pls consistency pls)
01:19:384 (1,3) - slider tick HS, without it sounds empty (cus u did it once, you should keep doing it)
01:24:647 (2) - add clap
01:46:051 (1) - consistency pls
01:46:051 (1) - finish at the end
02:04:296 (1) - slider tick HS, again, u already did it once, so keep doing it for consistency
02:07:103 (1,3) - ^^
02:12:717 (1,3) - ^^
02:53:770 (1,3) - add whistles
03:33:419 (3,4) - add whistles
03:39:033 (3) - clap at the end just doesn't sound right to me
03:52:016 (2) - clap
03:53:419 (4) - clap
03:59:384 (1,1) - tick HS
04:03:945 (2) - clap
04:04:647 (4) - welp this whistle-clap is random
04:04:998 (1,1) - tick HS
04:10:612 (1,1) - CONSISTENCY PLS (well you are inconsistently consistent wtf)
04:13:068 (2) - clappu
04:16:226 (1,3) - yeeeehehhhhhhhhh

Applied everything except the tick hitsound etc. Yeah.

Thanks!

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-09-20T04:22:08+00:00

guineaQ wrote:
~~neormal~~neonat's Normal
this hitsound

I don't really agree with the changes in beats, or the combo colour change. the repeat slider with more than 1 repeat occurs just around 3 times, where I think it fits fine, with the music the player can get the idea that there will be more than 1 repeat.

hitu soundo
00:06:402 (1) - remove clap, claps sound weird on offbeats
00:07:805 (4) - ^^ and add clap in the middle just added the clap, didn't remove the other
00:09:209 (1) - pls not needed
00:10:612 (3) - plsu
00:23:244 (1) - clap at the end all the clap suggestions from here onwards, I didn't want to add in because I'm fine with the whistles already, adding clap would just makes things louder than what I wanted
00:24:296 (3) - clap
00:24:647 (4) - clap at the end
00:25:699 (6) - clap
00:26:051 (1) - same issue, just repeat using claps every 2nd 4th white tick every offbeat
00:27:454 (4,6) - claps
00:28:507 (6) - no real cymbal crash here to support a finish, remove changed to the drum hitsound finish instead
00:29:910 (2) - claps
00:30:261 (3,5) - claps
00:31:665 (1,3) - claps
02:26:752 (1) - to 02:59:384 (6) - why are u using normal instead of soft? changed to soft

I changed the shape of 02:52:016 (1,2,3) on my own accord to make 02:52:016 (1,2) look neater

FrzR

2,237 posts

Joined October 2012

FrzR 2014-09-20T08:16:32+00:00

Almost there. ;w;)

Inb4 Nazi mods keeping the map pending.

I've become really passive about the map. My internet isn't so good these days. </3

Natsu

8,100 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2014-09-20T09:46:58+00:00

Hi Mira-Ssan

General:

fine

Ai's Extra

00:06:928 maybe add a circle following the vocals, since you was mapping them, for example here 00:04:823 (1) - that's why I feel weird that you ignored that one
00:10:875 (3) - remove this circle? since there is nothing in the music, that's why I dont feel that you have valid reasons to have it there, also is the calm part of the song
00:56:226 (1,2,3) - mmm the spacing between 1/2 gap and 1/4 gap look like the same, there is not way to the player notice this in the first play IMO, make the spacing difference more noticeable
01:34:647 (1,2) - this rhythm doesn't fit the song, since you are mapping the important beats as slider tails (also this is breaking your combo pattern), try this:
01:36:226 (6,1) - swap NC, since this 01:36:226 is the place where it should be, following your every 1 stanza pattern and the music
01:37:630 looks like you are missing a NC here~
01:43:945 (4) - this extended slider doesn't fit the song, since there is nothing in the music at 01:44:209 -, but yes in 01:44:121
01:50:963 (1) - remove this NC, doesn't make much sense to just have 2 objects in the same one.
03:14:998 (1) - remove this NC too is totally breaking your combo pattern, plus this part can be easy readed without it

Insane:

00:03:595 (1,2,3) - the spacing here looks kinda weird to me, use the same spacing between them?
00:35:875 (5) - you are missing a NC here, following your pattern
00:51:314 (1,2) - this doesn't play nicely, I meant the circle after the slider look like missplaced, try something like this instead:
SPOILER
00:52:717 (5) - missing NC here too
00:55:524 (7) - ^
00:59:735 (6) - ^
01:05:349 (6) - ^
01:09:384 (6) - this rhythm kinda doesn't fit the song and also is breaking your combo pattern, try this:
01:15:349 (7) - add NC and remove NC from 01:16:051 (1) - then add NC in 01:16:577 (4) - for moments your combo pattern mess up tho D:
01:22:717 (1) - 01:23:244 (1) - remove both NC? ot kinda fit the vocals like it is, so up to you
01:32:016 missing NC here too
01:43:244 (7,1) - swap NC following stanzas and the music
01:45:349 (1) - remove NC is not really necessary
01:48:156 (1) - same as above
01:51:314 (1,2) - swap nc for the same reason as 01:43:244
02:28:156 (6) - add NC here and remove it from 02:28:858 (1) - then add NC here 02:29:559 (4) -
02:33:770 (1) - this slider totally take me offguard when playing >:, if you really want to keep it extended add a circle in 02:34:121 to fit the drums and vocals
02:43:595 (7,1) - swap NC to be consistent with your every 1 stanza pattern, also with this one 02:40:787 (1,2) -
02:52:717 (1) - remove NC
02:56:051 (1) - with this pattern you are not following the music and vocals line properly IMO, try this instead:
02:56:752 (1) - remove NC
03:01:840 (6) - I think you are missing a NC here too
03:13:068 (7) - ^
03:18:595 (1,2) - swap NC, similar to other cases
03:25:349 (1,2) - ^
03:27:103 (4) - I guess you are missing NC here too
03:29:910 (5) - ^
03:32:366 (1,2) - swap NC
03:38:331 (5) - missing NC here too
03:43:068 (1) - personally I dont see a reason to have this NC here
aw mostly NCs lol

Hard:

00:03:244 (1,1) - Idont see a valid reason to have that combo spam, just remove the one at 00:04:121 (1) - .
00:23:156 (1,2) - swap NC to be consistent with what you did in 00:20:349 (5,1) -
01:53:419 remove this green line, since it's unnecesary
02:14:647 (6,7) - if you CTRL G this, the pattern will flow better IMO
03:20:086 (1,2) - about this sliders there is nothing in the music at the blue tick in the repeat, I highly suggest you to consider changing the rhythm here, same goes for this first kiai 01:50:261 (1,2) -
03:22:893 missing finish~

Normal:

hitsound volume at the beginning is too loud, consider to reduce, since is the clam part of the song
01:12:366 (3) - following the vocals like this isnot ok for a normal diff in my opinion, maybe end the slider in 01:12:717 - or change the rhythm to something more suitable for a normal diff, this one is good too 00:54:121 (1) -
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 01:30:963 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks like really difficult to play for a non experienced player, consider to remove some circles to leave a bit of rest to the player, there are more similar cases that I'll like if you can remove some beats
03:41:138 - the number of repeats of this slider is really hard to guess, consider using another rhythm

Easy:

hitsound volume at the beginning is too loud, consider to reduce, since is the clam part of the song
02:06:051 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Check your spacing here, is really inconsistent
03:25:700 (1,2,3) - spacing ~
03:28:858 (2,3) - ^
there are more cases when your spacing is not consistent, will be nice if you take a look at this :3
01:01:489 (1,2) - I guess is a better idea to remove this objects and leave all as a break, will be less stressful for newplayers
03:20:086 (1,3) - finish are really overused here, remove some
also take a look at some combos, some look inconsistent to me

remember these are suggestions :3, just bring me reasons if you don't agree with something, call me back after you check this

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-09-20T10:44:38+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hi Mira-Ssan

Normal:

hitsound volume at the beginning is too loud, consider to reduce, since is the clam part of the song changed to 50%, I think the audio here really does help quite a lot in keeping the beat though
01:12:366 (3) - following the vocals like this isnot ok for a normal diff in my opinion, maybe end the slider in 01:12:717 - or change the rhythm to something more suitable for a normal diff, this one is good too 00:54:121 (1) - I guess I can't fully follow the vocals then, changed it to a full 1/1 beat slider
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 01:30:963 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks like really difficult to play for a non experienced player, consider to remove some circles to leave a bit of rest to the player, there are more similar cases that I'll like if you can remove some beats I will take a look at all those parts in question some changed at 01:29:033 - 01:32:016 - 01:41:489 - 02:58:858 - 03:15:875 and 03:18:682
03:41:138 - the number of repeats of this slider is really hard to guess, consider using another rhythm
remember these are suggestions :3, just bring me reasons if you don't agree with something, call me back after you check this

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_AI

225 posts

Joined February 2013

_AI 2014-09-20T10:59:51+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hi Mira-Ssan

General:

fine
Ai's Extra

00:06:928 maybe add a circle following the vocals, since you was mapping them, for example here 00:04:823 (1) - that's why I feel weird that you ignored that one
00:10:875 (3) - remove this circle? since there is nothing in the music, that's why I dont feel that you have valid reasons to have it there, also is the calm part of the song
00:56:226 (1,2,3) - mmm the spacing between 1/2 gap and 1/4 gap look like the same, there is not way to the player notice this in the first play IMO, make the spacing difference more noticeable
01:34:647 (1,2) - this rhythm doesn't fit the song, since you are mapping the important beats as slider tails (also this is breaking your combo pattern), try this:
01:36:226 (6,1) - swap NC, since this 01:36:226 is the place where it should be, following your every 1 stanza pattern and the music
01:37:630 looks like you are missing a NC here~
01:43:945 (4) - this extended slider doesn't fit the song, since there is nothing in the music at 01:44:209 -, but yes in 01:44:121
01:50:963 (1) - remove this NC, doesn't make much sense to just have 2 objects in the same one.
03:14:998 (1) - remove this NC too is totally breaking your combo pattern, plus this part can be easy readed without it

remember these are suggestions :3, just bring me reasons if you don't agree with something, call me back after you check this

Everything Done!