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wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix) [Osu|Taiko]

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Stefan
Hi.



What the hell

Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/awEav/4ef7a87e89.osu
Oni: http://puu.sh/awEfA/00fb3491f5.osu

And you have to fix the title, it gets screwed over puush. Sorry again orz
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated all diffs. :D
[KEMU]
my taiko modding will having start very soon :D
[KEMU]
my modding will starts here

R - Red and B - Blue

small letters are small and Big are Big okay? so lets do it :D

01:04:559 (418) - b
01:52:191 (147) - b
02:14:646 (156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) - rrbrrbrbrrB
03:07:630 (52) - b
03:22:542 (153) - B
04:18:594 (493) - b

i guess thats all i hope it helps :D
polka
I feel like the spacing on the hard map is too much. In example, from 1:46:051 to 1:50:086, there's a lot of sliders at once. The gap between them is REALLY hard to reach with a mouse, regardless of the sensitivity. :o

Also, the hard mode is pretty difficult, which makes the the parts where there's red tick, blue tick, and then white tick seem like a bit of a stretch. Players should be able to play a majority of hard modes without having to Z & X toggle/ Right & Left Toggle so much. Examples: 00:20:261, 00:25:875. I know these are common in hard modes, just with such a fast BPM, as well as how many of these there are, it's a bit overwhelming.

Insane mode needs a little more of a limit on spacing.
Examples: 02:06:226 to 02:06:577 those hit circles are much farther than the ones from 02:07:454 to 02:08:156 which are MUCH closer together than the ones from 02:08:858 to 02:09:384.

Unless done purposely, the "Normal" difficulty is spelled "Neormal"? Pretty sure that's a typo. :lol:

Just some thoughts. Otherwise this is a REALLY good map and I'm praying this thing gets ranked~! :)
guineaQ

PolkaMocha wrote:

I feel like the spacing on the hard map is too much. In example, from 1:46:051 to 1:50:086, there's a lot of sliders at once. The gap between them is REALLY hard to reach with a mouse, regardless of the sensitivity. :o

Also, the hard mode is pretty difficult, which makes the the parts where there's red tick, blue tick, and then white tick seem like a bit of a stretch. Players should be able to play a majority of hard modes without having to Z & X toggle/ Right & Left Toggle so much. Examples: 00:20:261, 00:25:875. I know these are common in hard modes, just with such a fast BPM, as well as how many of these there are, it's a bit overwhelming.

Insane mode needs a little more of a limit on spacing.
Examples: 02:06:226 to 02:06:577 those hit circles are much farther than the ones from 02:07:454 to 02:08:156 which are MUCH closer together than the ones from 02:08:858 to 02:09:384.

Unless done purposely, the "Normal" difficulty is spelled "Neormal"? Pretty sure that's a typo. :lol:

Just some thoughts. Otherwise this is a REALLY good map and I'm praying this thing gets ranked~! :)
Hard is perfectly fine


sry i HAD to reply to thix
Topic Starter
Mira-san

guineaQ wrote:

PolkaMocha wrote:

I feel like the spacing on the hard map is too much. In example, from 1:46:051 to 1:50:086, there's a lot of sliders at once. The gap between them is REALLY hard to reach with a mouse, regardless of the sensitivity. :o

Also, the hard mode is pretty difficult, which makes the the parts where there's red tick, blue tick, and then white tick seem like a bit of a stretch. Players should be able to play a majority of hard modes without having to Z & X toggle/ Right & Left Toggle so much. Examples: 00:20:261, 00:25:875. I know these are common in hard modes, just with such a fast BPM, as well as how many of these there are, it's a bit overwhelming.

Insane mode needs a little more of a limit on spacing.
Examples: 02:06:226 to 02:06:577 those hit circles are much farther than the ones from 02:07:454 to 02:08:156 which are MUCH closer together than the ones from 02:08:858 to 02:09:384.

Unless done purposely, the "Normal" difficulty is spelled "Neormal"? Pretty sure that's a typo. :lol:

Just some thoughts. Otherwise this is a REALLY good map and I'm praying this thing gets ranked~! :)
Hard is perfectly fine


sry i HAD to reply to thix
wow lolololol :o
neonat
There are tougher spacing in Hards elsewhere, I think this one has already been lenient already, it's not big spacing. It's just more dense with objects compared to generally a number of Hards, but it's still fine.

I just think 02:22:542 (6) - is placed too weirdly

I derped around at 2 parts, whoops

HootOwlStar
Hihi I'm here for random mod~ :D
Ignore my English and you know you can always ignore my mod.
Anyway, everything is beautiful OMG I totally love the mapset

[General]

AiMod wrote:

Filesize of the mapset exceeds 10MB without video.
Idk but seems important...

[Fr33z3r's Easy]
00:02:191 (3) - Flip vertically (Ctrl+J) and place it at x:240 y:232
00:03:244 (1) - No NC
00:03:594 (2) - NC
00:04:296 (3) - Remove it first. Then, make a clone from 00:03:594 (2) and flip horizontally (Ctrl+H)
00:04:998 (1) - No NC
00:05:700 (3) - Move to x:452 y:220
00:07:805 (1) - No NC
00:10:612 (1) - ^
00:09:559 (1,2,3,1,2) - Placement is not so nice for me. Try this, move 00:10:261 (3) to x:440 y:304, together with 00:10:612 (1) to x:400 y:208 and 00:11:665 (2) x:300 y:176
00:30:612 (1) - No NC
00:32:016 (3) - NC
00:34:472 (7) - ^
00:34:823 (1) - No NC
00:36:928 (1) - ^
00:37:279 (2) - NC
00:37:980 (3) - Make this slider from a clone of 00:37:279 (2)
00:40:086 (6) - NC
00:40:437 (1) - No NC, and move to x:252 y:184
00:42:191 (2) - Make it overlap with 00:40:086 (6)
00:42:542 (3) - Make the slider straight will do
00:47:103 (1) - No NC
00:48:858 (2) - Make it more curve by moving point x:152 y:136 to x:160 y:176, point x:176 y:200 to x:196 y:244 and point x:248 y:240 to x:264 y:244
00:49:910 (1) - No NC
00:50:612 (2) - Just make it straight will do
01:01:138 - Add a circle here
01:13:419 (4) - Make it straight will do
01:19:384 (1) - Move point x:336 y:64 to x:316 y:88 and point x:384 y:56 to x:380 y:120
01:24:998 (4) - NC
01:25:349 (1) - No NC
01:32:016 (1) - ^
01:36:577 (1) - Move point x:376 y:240 to x:380 y:236 and point x:280 y:264 to x:304 y:260
01:46:051 (1) - No NC
01:47:805 (2) - NC
02:09:910 (5) - ^
02:10:261 (1) - No NC
02:11:665 (1) - ^
02:12:717 (2) - NC
02:15:524 (6) - ^?
02:28:858 (2) - Make it from a clone of 02:27:805 (1)
03:25:700 (1,2,3) - The relative distance is confusing, fix it pls
03:28:507 (6) - NC
03:29:910 (1) - No NC
03:32:717 (1) - ^
03:42:191 - Add a circle here
04:19:033 (1) - Move it to the centre

I'll just mod one diff so that's all of my mod
Beautiful mapset, anyway
Hope your maps get ranked soon and GL~ :)
guineaQ

neonat wrote:

There are tougher spacing in Hards elsewhere, I think this one has already been lenient already, it's not big spacing. It's just more dense with objects compared to generally a number of Hards, but it's still fine.

I just think 02:22:542 (6) - is placed too weirdly

I derped around at 2 parts, whoops

If you intended to get the same accuracy as I did, you sir is a god.
jonathanlfj
alright only some minor things im gonna say, no kd

[Easy]
04:19:193 - there is an unsnapped green line, snap it to 04:19:209

[Neormal]
I'm gonna have to check with someone whether this diff name is rankable or not, been having a lot of issues lately with difficulty naming
also i think AR5.5 makes this easier to read

[Hard]
00:00:787 - the hitsounds in this section are way too loud, it should be like Insane with 40% volume

[Insane]
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm actually plays really confusing, i would swap 01:28:068 (2,3) for a slider instead

[AI's Extra]
01:09:559 (1,2,3,4) - due to the vocals here i'm always tempted to hit this as a continuous stream, might want to enlarge the spacing here
04:05:261 (3) - did you forget a clap here at the end? same goes to 04:06:665 (3)

The hitsounding is much better though still not the best, i guess i can let it go though since it doesn't detach from the music anymore. I will let you know about the difficulty naming for Normal.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

jonathanlfj wrote:

alright only some minor things im gonna say, no kd

[Easy]
04:19:193 - there is an unsnapped green line, snap it to 04:19:209


[Hard]
00:00:787 - the hitsounds in this section are way too loud, it should be like Insane with 40% volume

[Insane]
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm actually plays really confusing, i would swap 01:28:068 (2,3) for a slider instead

The hitsounding is much better though still not the best, i guess i can let it go though since it doesn't detach from the music anymore. I will let you know about the difficulty naming for Normal.
All fixed/changed. Regarding the Normal, I asked about it few months back and people from #modhelp said that it's fine. I'll try asking again as well.

Thanks again! :D
Stefan
Will check the Taiko Mod by [KEMU] asap, thanks for it.
jonathanlfj
for Easy, 04:19:193 - make sure you delete this green line

on the Extra, 04:06:665 (3,4) - these land on the same spot, you need to remove the repeat on 04:06:665 (3) or delete 04:06:840 (4)

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
Topic Starter
Mira-san

jonathanlfj wrote:

for Easy, 04:19:193 - make sure you delete this green line

on the Extra, 04:06:665 (3,4) - these land on the same spot, you need to remove the repeat on 04:06:665 (3) or delete 04:06:840 (4)

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
owo :DDDD
Stefan

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
MY TURN NOW HNNNG
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Stefan wrote:

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
MY TURN NOW HNNNG
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
guineaQ

Mira-san wrote:

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
neonat
Had the same situation for my map xD
Ciyus Miapah

neonat wrote:

Had the same situation for my map xD
hue
Hollow Wings
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

AI's Extra

  1. why not mute the slider track's hs?
  2. 00:24:998 (2) - hmm i should say this arrow is overlapped by that note, change it plz
  3. 04:02:191 (1) - ^

Insane

  1. 00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo
  2. 02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here
  3. 03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one
  4. 03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g
  5. composing's really random lol

Hard

  1. 00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo
  2. 01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol
  3. 01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow
  4. 02:49:910 (4,1) - ^
  5. 03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here

neonat's Normal

  1. 00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap
  2. 01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here?
  3. 01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket
  4. 01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe

Fr33z3R's Easy

  1. 01:48:858 (4,2) - stack, and blanket 01:49:559 (1,2) - maybe, other stuffs like this as well
that sb lol

good luck
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Hollow Wings wrote:

from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

Insane

  1. 00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo | Anti-flow intended.
  2. 02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here | Nah lol.
  3. 03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one | I just ctrl+g'd (2). imo it's better lol.
  4. 03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g | Would make a crappy flow imo.
  5. composing's really random lol | This diff is an overhaul (note how it's not a 'remap') of a remap of a remap. So yeah you could say that.

Hard

  1. 00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo | Okay.
  2. 01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol | Cuz no.
  3. 01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow | Why not? It's readable imo and I've seen others play it without having any problems on that part.
  4. 02:49:910 (4,1) - ^ | ^
  5. 03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here | Yes, that part should use a 1/8 repeat slider but I intentionally used 1/4 because idk it can be confusing for newer players imo.

that sb lol | At its finest. Or probably not.

good luck
Thanks! (sentimental skyscraper plzzz)
neonat

Hollow Wings wrote:

neonat's Normal

  1. 00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap adjusted
  2. 01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here? end with vocal
  3. 01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket k
  4. 01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe Not going to blanket
Thanks

Code
SPOILER
osu file format v13

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Countdown: 0
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EpilepsyWarning: 1
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Title:World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix)
TitleUnicode:ワールズエンド・ダンスホール (ROCKETMAN Remix)
Artist:wowaka
ArtistUnicode:wowaka
Creator:Mira-san
Version:neonat's Normal
Source:
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Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated.
Stefan
mintong will post the IRC Log we had.

Oni: http://puu.sh/beNHa/9168d1a723.txt
Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/beNJq/21426c3214.txt

They only have the Hitobjects so don't make a mess!
mintong89
SPOILER
08:18 mintong89: Actually I can bubble it by fix some pattern but ddK kkD such pattern is really bothering me, orz
08:19 mintong89: Mira-san's mapset
08:20 Stefan: If you want we can do IRC
08:20 Stefan: Because sometimes I don't really get the point.. :D
08:26 Stefan: However if these pattern aren't that good at all then I fix them
08:26 Stefan: Have to take a closer look
08:27 mintong89: I can't say it aren't good but I don't know how to really explain
08:27 mintong89: it's quite rare?
08:27 Stefan: If it plays weird, unconfortable, just not fitting
08:27 Stefan: Then it isn't good
08:27 Stefan: Is it one of these things?
08:29 mintong89: it's play uncomfortable, because it's rare, so some player might can't read to it then no enough time to switch finger
08:29 mintong89: That's what I think
08:31 Stefan: Hmm okay
08:31 mintong89: 00:22:191 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128) - The stream sound weird, how about kdddkkdkkddkd
08:32 mintong89: kkddkkdkkddkd is fine too
08:33 Stefan: I take the first one.
08:33 mintong89: ok
08:34 Stefan: And removed Finish from 00:23:244 (128).
08:38 mintong89: 02:41:489 (102) - k here to follow vocal?
08:39 Stefan: okay.
08:39 mintong89: 02:59:559 (233) - it sound just like 02:59:734 (234) - here (drum clap), so I think it's no need to change to d
08:39 mintong89: drum snare*
08:39 Stefan: Well... the voice is deeper here so I've put d here.
08:40 mintong89: hmm ok then
08:40 Stefan: But I think this isn't worth it.
08:40 Stefan: Changed~
08:40 mintong89: ok haha
08:40 mintong89: 03:25:700 - k here and 03:26:402 - here? you did k at all white line
08:41 mintong89: 03:23:595 (157,160,164) -
08:41 mintong89: 03:27:103 (170,174) -
08:41 mintong89: 03:31:314 (188,190) - here too, change to k
08:43 Stefan: Done
08:43 mintong89: i guess just these
08:43 mintong89: please check ddK kkD pattern, then we go to Muzuakshii
08:49 mintong89: beginning seem to more 1/4 note
08:49 mintong89: 00:12:016 - => 00:33:068 -
08:49 mintong89: 01:53:068 - => 02:15:524 - try use the pattern at here?
08:49 mintong89: or the end is fine too
08:50 mintong89: too more*
08:51 Stefan: So.. I should use some more 1/4 in these parts?
08:52 mintong89: no, the beginning is too more 1/4 pattern if compare to chorus, 01:53:068 - and 03:45:349 -
08:52 Stefan: Oh
08:52 mintong89: sorry, my english is suck x_x
08:53 Stefan: Nah, don't worry
08:53 Stefan: But I think it's fine because if I would decrease the Triplets the Muzu would be too easy
08:53 Stefan: compared to Oni
08:56 mintong89: then makes more hard to chorus?
08:57 Stefan: I did
08:59 mintong89: hmm ok
09:00 mintong89: do it and give it to mira-san
09:00 mintong89: i'll recheck again
09:06 Stefan: Done
09:06 Stefan: Are you going to post the log?
09:06 mintong89: ah sure, I'm already forget

Call me back to recheck then.
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated.

Thanks! :D
mintong89
Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~
Stefan

mintong89 wrote:

Bubbled!~
How I do feel at the moment
Topic Starter
Mira-san

mintong89 wrote:

Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~
Ok. FINALLY. hauehauehae :)
mintong89
Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

mintong89 wrote:

Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.
My bad. hahah
Yumeno Himiko
gratz for the bubble!!
AruOtta
GOOOO \:D/
izzydemon
FINALLY GOD DAMN
Eni

Kenterz wrote:

GOOOO \:D/
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Thanks for the support everyone. :D
sheela
Finally!
TicClick
[General]
  1. Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images. ← this is what I found in Ranking Criteria. Having an image with bigger dimensions is pointless, because it'll be downscaled (in case of 1366×768 it will be exactly 960×540) and then upscaled and only then used. It'll also reduce folder's size, so please consider using this (1366×768, filesize reduced) or this (960×540).
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?)
  2. 00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why?

    What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
    What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

    I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -

  3. 00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish
  4. 01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow
[Insane]
  1. 00:06:402 − 00:11:665 — this is oddly hitsounded. You can clearly hear the clapping sound appearing on 2nd and 4th white ticks, not on 1st: http://puu.sh/bidqL/81e58c1b84.jpg
  2. 00:19:033 (1) - well, its end looks broken. How about you consider a better (at least it looks better to me) shape: http://puu.sh/bidDe/df4f6de393.jpg
  3. 00:33:770 (3,4,5,6,1) - there's a clear 1/4 beat inthe background, yet you left it unmapped. Why?
  4. 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs to be 1 + 3 + 1 + 3, according to vocals you're trying to follow: http://puu.sh/biepy/6b594af984.jpg
  5. 01:41:840 (1) - you skipped a finish
  6. 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as before; remove (2) to get a correct notes placement
  7. 03:11:665 (1) - you skipped a finish
  8. 03:22:893 (1) - consider using drum finish
idk I like it even though you mapped only a few vocal parts the way they should've been mapped

[Hard]
  1. 02:21:840 (2,3,4,5,6) - shouldn't these have equal spacing?
  2. 02:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5) - same, you keep switching between 0.8? and 0.6
  3. 03:17:980 (3,4) - may be too harsh for a Hard, consider reducing it
[neonat's Normal]
  1. 00:12:016 (5) - that'd be cool to use a new combo here, because the storyboard gains colour exactly at this time
  2. 02:35:173 (1,2) - why did you use claps on vocals? They're horrible to listen to, and I am pretty sure you wanted to put a clap on 02:36:226 (3) - 's head
  3. 02:52:016 (1,2) - same as above
  4. 02:54:823 (1,1) - ^
  5. 03:12:717 (4) - missed a clap?
[Fr33z3R's Easy]
OD-1
  1. 00:11:665 (2) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat at 00:12:016
  2. 00:34:472 (7) - should have a new combo instead of 00:34:823 (1) -
  3. 00:37:279 (2) - same

    well whatever, I'll just paste lolcubes' words as a good explanation:

    Generally, every combo should be a part of a section as a whole, usually one or two measures (stanzas) long. This may not always be the case (there are times when you can have a single note in a combo which fits, it all depends on what the objects follow in the music), however comboing should not be random.
    A lot of mapping styles tend to use their own new combo placements and the purpose of a new combo may have shifted it's meaning, but it's still easy to notice if the comboing makes no sense. Starting a new musical section with, lets say an object with a number 6, doesn't really make much sense.


    AND NOW BACK TO MODDING (I ASSUME YOU FIXED ALL NEW COMBO PROBLEMS AFTER CHECKING THE WHOLE DIFFICULTY BY YOURSELF)

  4. 00:55:524 (3) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat on its end
  5. 01:42:191 (2) - reverse it? plays a bit better, I think
  6. 01:53:419 - you don't need this offset
  7. 04:02:191 (7) - missed finish
  8. 04:13:419 (5) - ^ (also remove clap, sounds out of place)
neonat
Changed some claps, added the new combo

SPOILER
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Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated. Major changes within the Insane. Thank you. :D
_AI

TicClick wrote:

[General]
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?) Fixed! My bad mistake...
  2. 00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why? Why is it confusing you? It fit just the way I thought.

    What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
    What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

    I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -

  3. 00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish Fixed
  4. 01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow
Fixed
Mira-san : http://puu.sh/bpfti/3450a80736.osu
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated. Thanks! :)
TicClick

_AI wrote:

00:37:279 (1,2) - why do you insist on keeping this? Patterns like this one need to follow vocals, which are on 3/4:


You should really, really consider to map it properly. Even Insane, which is easier than Extra, has all of these patterns fixed, so that they match the vocaloid's voice now, and it has resulted in a much better play experience one can achieve while playing the map.
TicClick
Recheck

[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
  3. 00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
  4. 00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
  5. 00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
  6. 00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
  7. 00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
  8. 00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
  9. 00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
  10. 00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
  11. 01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
  12. 01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
  13. 01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
  14. 01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
  15. 01:50:963 (1) - same as above
  16. 02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
  17. 02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
  18. 02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
  19. 02:30:963 (1) - ^
  20. 02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
  21. 03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
  22. 03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
  23. 03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
  24. 03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
  25. 03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
  26. 04:02:191 (1) - ^
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
  2. 00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
  3. 01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
  4. 02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
  5. 02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
  6. 02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
  7. 03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
  8. 03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
  9. 04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
  10. 04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
  11. 04:08:068 - map it!
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
  2. 00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
  3. 00:50:173 (2) - ^
  4. 00:51:226 (9) - ^
  5. 00:54:033 (5) - ^
  6. 00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
  7. 01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
  8. 01:13:682 (9) - ^
  9. 01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  10. 01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
  11. 02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
  12. 03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  13. 03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
  14. 03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
  15. 03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
  16. 04:00:787 (8) - ^
  17. 04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
  18. 04:04:998 (4) - add NC
  19. 04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
  20. 04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
  21. 04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
  22. 04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?
[Fr33z3R's Easy]
  1. 00:11:665 (2) - add clap
  2. 00:12:016 (3) - add NC? looks cool, just like on neonat's

    Once again, I'll ask you to go through the whole difficulty and add new combos ONLY on downbeats (big white ticks), removing the rest of them that don't follow this requirement.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

Recheck

[Insane]
  1. 00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
  2. 00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
  3. 01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
  4. 02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
  5. 02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
  6. 02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
  7. 03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
  8. 03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
  9. 04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
  10. 04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
  11. 04:08:068 - map it!
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
  2. 00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
  3. 00:50:173 (2) - ^
  4. 00:51:226 (9) - ^
  5. 00:54:033 (5) - ^
  6. 00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
  7. 01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
  8. 01:13:682 (9) - ^
  9. 01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  10. 01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
  11. 02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
  12. 03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  13. 03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
  14. 03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
  15. 03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
  16. 04:00:787 (8) - ^
  17. 04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
  18. 04:04:998 (4) - add NC
  19. 04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
  20. 04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
  21. 04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
  22. 04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?
I'm actually too lazy to deny something lol.
Thanks!
_AI

TicClick wrote:

Recheck

[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
  3. 00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
  4. 00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
  5. 00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
  6. 00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
  7. 00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
  8. 00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
  9. 00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
  10. 00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
  11. 01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
  12. 01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
  13. 01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
  14. 01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
  15. 01:50:963 (1) - same as above
  16. 02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
  17. 02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
  18. 02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
  19. 02:30:963 (1) - ^
  20. 02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
  21. 03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
  22. 03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
  23. 03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
  24. 03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
  25. 03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
  26. 04:02:191 (1) - ^
[/list]
Done everything!
Mira-san : http://puu.sh/buI9e/528a6449de.osu
TicClick
okay, sooooo here are m,y (probably) last complaints.

You don't need epilepsy warning!

[Fr33z3R's Easy]
  1. 00:12:016 (1) - make it green, and 00:23:244 (1) - too
  2. 01:01:489 (1,2) - idk if that's needed, a full break would probably be better
[Hard]
  1. 03:46:752 (7) - NC missing, remove from 03:47:279 (1) -
  2. 03:59:384 (3) - NC missing, remove from 03:59:208 (1) -
  3. 04:00:787 (6) - NC missing, remove from 04:01:314 (1) -
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:37:630 (2) - missing clap
  2. 00:38:682 (6) - forgot to extend by 1/4
  3. 02:03:945 (6) - head is missing a clap. Also add it to the head of 02:03:770 (5) - if you wish
  4. 03:21:314 (7,1,2) - awful to read because 7-1 has higher spacing than 1-2, and 7-1 are 1/2 apart, while 1-2 are 3/4 apart. Looks like a spacing error, could be fixed by moving 03:21:489 (1) - up and left, so it forms a square of some kind: http://puu.sh/bvRnS/f273b12a53.jpg
  5. 03:57:279 (2) - forgot to remove clap
TicClick
double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.
Finally, again. :D
Asagi
Tangina i rank na to putek
StickyPicky

Asagi wrote:

Tangina i rank na to putek
Please someone translate this ^ lol
Frostmourne
General
seems good ヾ(@^▽^@)ノ

Fr33z3R's Easy
AR 3-3.5 could do great job here. 4 is too fast imo.
mostly about new combo at some positions that I find a bit strange.
01:09:910 (1) - remove NC
01:21:138 (1) - remove NC
03:29:910 (1) - remove NC
03:32:717 (1) - remove NC
03:38:331 (1) - remove NC
03:52:366 (1) - remove NC
04:13:068 (2,3) - finish should be swapped here like you did on 04:07:454 (2,3) -
04:17:630 (1) - remove NC
mostly about 1 combo and NC again afterwards. It can destroy the HP drain the most. I highly suggest you fix all of them if possible. Don't forget to be aware of colorhax you did there too.

neonat's Normal
00:55:173 (2) - there is still significant vocal on 00:54:998 like what you have done placing sliders on such 00:49:384 (2) - 00:52:191 (2) - so keep it similar to the previous you did so it won't confuse players for Normal diff one.
Great vocal followed diff.

Hard
AR 7.5 feels better so please give it a try
the rest is fine~

AI's Extra
HP-7 could be better on this because it has a number of NCs. The HP drain could be harsh in some parts.
You could rename the diff to "AI's Insane" as it doesn't play much differently from Insane and the star rating shows that it should be an Insane.
From 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
I highly suggest you change to this way. The end of sliders for 01:22:542 (4) - and 01:23:068 (8) - have really strong beats on there. Making it able to be hit by using a circle and placing using triplet on such points will tend to be much more easier to read as 01:22:191 (1,2,3) - suggested in the first time.
I hope you get what I mean from the picture... If not, I will elaborate.
02:33:770 (7,8,9,10) - spacings there are quite hard to read in some parts, example, 02:33:770 (7,8) - between these should be far more than 02:34:121 (9,10) - if you see the timeline of beat placement.
I suggest you add a new combo on 02:33:770 (7) - and move it to around x:232 y:236
02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo.
02:52:366 (4,5,6,7) - similar to 01:22:191 (1) - to 01:23:331 (2) -
Something like this
03:22:191 (4) - this really needs NC because spacing is changed drastically with the rhythm you used.
03:22:542 (3,1) - jump too far? just in my opinion..

Insane
03:21:489 (1) - you may try this rhythm instead. The current one is a bit hard to read because it actually has no sound on 03:21:928 so I suggest you try this rhythm to see if you would like to change it or not.
03:22:893 (1) - the music itself doesn't guide that obviously that it is going to be this slower. I suggest you make a stop jump and then place a slider later this way.
Players would tend to react in time and get understood to the change from combo color change between these two notes 03:22:893 (1,2) -
so they will not tend to slip on the suddenly slow slider like I did in test play.

Feel free to ask TicClick for a rebubble and I will rank afterwards, just to make sure everything is rechecked carefully ( ´ ▽ ` )ノ
neonat
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292,208,204647,2,0,L|340:192,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,156,204998,2,0,P|408:140|448:152,2,90.0000038802622,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206226,5,0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206402,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,28,206928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,28,207103,2,0,P|72:36|52:84,1,90.0000038802622,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,112,207805,2,0,P|99:142|44:152,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,236,208507,86,0,L|100:316,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,340,209033,2,0,L|184:356,1,45.0000019401311,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,280,209559,2,0,L|280:280,1,45.0000019401311,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,312,209910,2,0,L|360:300,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,272,210261,2,0,L|424:280,2,45.0000019401311,2|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,210963,2,0,L|216:168,1,90.0000038802622,0|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,211840,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,212016,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212717,2,0,P|344:100|384:72,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,16,213419,2,0,P|464:12|508:60,1,90.0000038802622
480,132,214121,86,0,L|480:240,1,90.0000038802622,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,268,214647,1,4,0:0:0:0:
484,312,214823,2,0,P|460:344|412:348,1,90.0000038802622,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,332,215349,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,304,215524,2,0,P|284:292|236:308,2,90.0000038802622,4|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216577,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216928,6,0,P|404:192|368:104,1,135.000005820393,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,108,217630,2,0,P|280:120|232:104,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,20,218331,2,0,P|268:12|316:24,2,90.0000038802622,4|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,80,219384,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,156,219735,86,0,L|164:244,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,276,220437,2,0,L|156:348,1,90.0000038802622,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,340,221138,2,0,L|32:364,4,45.0000019401311,2|0|2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,252,222191,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,192,222542,21,4,0:0:0:0:
304,84,223244,1,4,0:0:0:0:
160,192,223945,1,4,0:0:0:0:
248,176,224296,1,4,0:0:0:0:
328,212,224647,2,0,B|400:200|448:236|512:212,1,180.000007760524,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,188,236577,5,4,0:0:0:0:
296,116,236928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,108,237103,2,0,P|380:112|412:232,1,180.000000894069,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,196,237980,2,0,P|324:264|480:296,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,144,239384,2,0,P|505:188|505:256,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,356,240787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,360,241489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,196,242191,86,0,P|65:163|121:145,2,90.0000004470345,4|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,300,243595,2,0,P|232:248|100:148,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,332,244998,2,0,P|40:228|60:176,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,32,246402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,32,247103,1,2,0:0:0:0:
260,184,247805,6,0,P|312:196|332:324,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,308,248858,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,296,249209,2,0,L|-12:248,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,200,249910,2,0,L|192:152,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,76,250612,85,0,0:0:0:0:
316,16,250963,1,2,0:0:0:0:
412,24,251314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,80,251665,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,124,252016,2,0,P|352:136|304:204,2,120.000000596046,0|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,124,253068,1,2,0:0:0:0:
396,220,253419,6,0,P|344:276|236:248,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,192,254472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,128,255524,2,0,P|155:95|81:105,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:
Kyouren
Ranked plz~
TicClick
что ты тут делаешь?
Topic Starter
Mira-san
None of these 'updates' are submitted properly. Hahaha. :(
The maps change, but the first post doesn't.



This is so fun.
TicClick
[AI's Extra]
  1. 01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
  2. 01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
  3. "02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
  4. 02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
  5. 03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
  6. 03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
  7. 03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
  8. 03:41:138 (5) - new combo?
REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):
Topic Starter
Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

[AI's Extra]
  1. 01:11:314 (4) - missing clap
  2. 01:14:296 (4,5,6,7) - mapped to nothing; you could use a slider or something if you wanted to follow that wwwwhew sound from the track
  3. "02:40:086 (5,6,7) - similar to above, I would move these to where 02:38:682 (4,5,6) - is placed. It will be much better spacing to read imo" < I'd apply
  4. 02:53:068 (9,10) - fix the spacing! 9 should be stacked under 02:52:542 (5) -
  5. 03:00:437 - custom colours are broken on the second kiai, there should be no grey! Use blue instead, and also fix the next section (only grey) and the section after the next one (pale green/pale purple)
  6. 03:17:103 (7) - missing clap?
  7. 03:32:717 (2) - add new combo, remove it from 03:32:542 (1) -
  8. 03:41:138 (5) - new combo?
REGARDING 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) and 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the most preferable way to map it is just to follow the music WITHOUT using 1/4th short sliders, as they aren't necessary this time. Seriously, consider using this (example — Mira's Insane):
Applied lolzozlozlzo ;)
DakeDekaane
Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[ Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks.

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1).

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals
01:38:858 (39) - ^
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[ Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1).

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) -
01:34:296 (27,28,29) -
01:36:051 (39) -
01:38:507 (55) -
01:39:296 (59) -
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) -
01:44:121 (97) -
01:45:524 (106,107) -
01:50:524 (135) -
01:51:226 (139,140) -

:!: 02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.
Stefan

DakeDekaane wrote:

Doing a check for Taiko diffs requested by TicClick.

Honestly, the diffs arent bad, good work Stefan, buuut I really think you should tone them down, they're considerably harder than they should be, so they could benefit of some note removal.

[ Muzukashii]
Muzukashii is full of long of 1/2 patterns mixed with 1/4 triples which fits more an Oni, also the song doesn't sound too complex to deserve this difficulty level.

00:00:787 - 00:12:016 - This part is really similar in both difficulties, while this is not a bad thing, but consider removing some notes as it feels a bit overloaded, as it's relatively calm. Did stuff here.

00:12:016 - 00:23:244 - This part could be easier, use some patterns similar to this one, they'd follow better the drums and give some small breaks. So simple the idea, so great the effect. Changed this secting

00:23:244 - Here you could just remove the notes in spots like 00:25:875 (109), but may be not so needed as music is stronger here. Yes, did that here.

00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - In this section you could focus a bit more on vocals than complementing them with the drums, i.e, remove some notes that are mapped on the drums and leave more vocals here. This helps to not make 00:34:472 - 00:56:928 - mapped in a very similar way, which may be a bit boring while playing. Ehrrrruhmmmm... I think it's clearer now what I intended to focus.
00:44:647 (189,190,191,192,193) - Deleting dons here would help a lot to make vocals feel stronger, due being more isolated. Yes Yes Yes, done here.

01:19:384 - tbh I liked this part, I don't think there's too many problems if we leave it like this, but I'd suggest to remove 01:24:472 (369) - to give some small break after those patterns. Good thing for the vocal.
01:30:086 (1) - I think this spinner isn't really needed, a pause would help to create some tension before the kiai, same with 02:59:910 (1). Hard decision but yes, agree.

The kiai is actually nice, just a few suggestions.
01:32:893 (13,15) - Removing these could be nice to emphasize vocals hmhmhm I think I will remove 01:33:244 (15) instead. But I will think about your suggestion to remove this one as well.
01:38:858 (39) - ^ Done.
01:44:121 (64,66) - ^ Same like 01:32:893 (13,15).

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

[ Oni]
Oni has a lot of consecutive 1/2 notes, while some of them aren't bad, putting some 1/1 gaps could help a bit here.
Also I think SV 1.60 is forcing difficulty, 1.40 should be better here. I partly agree, 1.60x is pretty cool for Kiai so I will keep it there. For the rest it will be 1.40x.
00:00:787 - 00:06:402 - This section is really weird when you pass to the next where drums begins, as it's harder, while the song is calmer, some deletions could be nice here. Done here.
00:14:559 (61,62) - 00:17:366 (81,82) - I consider this optional, you could remove these to not make this pattern too long. I don't agree here. That's a fairly appropriate lenght of combos.
00:20:173 (101,102,103) - ^ ^
In fact, you could delete notes in similar spots.

00:22:279 (117) - The stream in the music begins in the red tick so yeah, better removing this. Removed.
00:34:472 - 00:45:700 - Something similar as I said in Muzukashii, focus a bit more on vocals, you could remove notes like 00:36:577 (223) and follow a similar structure for this spot. Good, remove some notes, made some changes and yep.. replied on the things below.
00:45:700 - 00:56:928 - You could remove notes like 00:47:805 (293,297) - to emphasize vocals a bit more.
00:50:524 (313,318,319,320) - ^
00:53:331 (334,335,339) - ^
01:30:086 (1) - Same as in Muzukashii, and for 02:59:910 (1). ~

Kiai was nice here too, and again, some note removal suggestions.
01:32:893 (18) - ~
01:34:296 (27,28,29) - No. They're pretty fine here
01:36:051 (39) - ~
01:38:507 (55) - ~
01:39:296 (59) - Removed 01:38:858 instead.
01:39:910 (63,64,65,66) - nope.
01:44:121 (97) - ~
01:45:524 (106,107) - Triplet fits well with vocal/music in general.
01:50:524 (135) - Removed 01:50:086 instead.
01:51:226 (139,140) - Sounds quite empty then.

:!: 02:15:524 (166) - I'm pretty sure we're not allowing finisher on streams unless its ...oxxxxO, so please fix it. changed to ddkkddkkkkD.

Repeat the suggestions for similar sections.

You should consider all this I posted, so the map could represent better the song with some of the new breaks the diffs will get, and fit better without being too difficult. Good luck.
Thanks. http://puu.sh/byQri/cf10dbed40.rar
Topic Starter
Mira-san
aha haha

Finally, I've seen this happen again.

TicClick
Rebubbled again! I hope Taiko is alright now.
Squigly
ranked soon hopefully V:
Frostmourne
Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png

I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.

Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Frostmourne wrote:

Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png
Tell me when you are done updating that above screenshot to make everything consistent throughout the whole mapset.
Fixed. :o

Frostmourne wrote:

I was concerned about the difficulty spread but after investigating once again, Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way. Hard is not completely harder apart from Normal so I have some confidence to rank it, and hopefully it won't get in trouble afterwards.
Considering how this map got un-qualified due to "map icons", it looks like we're going to have a problem.
Stefan

Frostmourne wrote:

Still wonder why this happens though.. http://puu.sh/bAkBS.png
Can anyone slap this Ste...fa...an guy...... Ugh



About the Easy Diff: 1.99 is pretty high actually but it isn't actually unrankable because the rule says to not left out a Difficulty between the spread. So you have NNHII atm which shouldn't be unrankable but then check carefully about the Easy Diff.

EDIT: Checked the Easy Diff. @Fr33z3R: In my opinion - and you do NOT have to agree with me - you could lower the density of the hitobjects. Sometimes it feels a bit overfilled compared with other parts and let it looks a bit too hasty. And if you changes to your Diff, please add clap on 00:11:665 (2). Otherwise, Mira-san should do that instead.
Frostmourne
aha.. feel free to take an opinion from Stefan and consider whether you would like to reduce or not. I suggest you reduce the note density though but not a must. Icons here are arranged in consecutive order so it's fine unlike the one Mira-San gave out as it stepped over a Normal icon.

Let me know ~~
Topic Starter
Mira-san
I will try to work on that sometime today. :| Nah. I don't want to change a lot of things. 8-)

@Frostmourne: "Mira-'s'an" or just Mira would do. /me runs
neonat
mira-San
Topic Starter
Mira-san

neonat wrote:

mira-San
aaaaaaaaaaa

edit:

Stefan


Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Stefan wrote:



Glad to be your 200th. Is it bad that I find my own Taiko Diffs well made this time? lol
Yay. \o/ Not really.
blaterwolf
popped again lol :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

edit:

Frostmourne wrote:

Easy is pretty much easier than Normal although the star rating doesn't look that way.
#Fr33z3R
#neonat
#PoppedAgain
neonat
Really now.
Frostmourne
Congratulation for your first qualify :) !
Good luck for getting it ranked safely~~~~
Gravey-
Congratz!~ :) Such tho~
TicClick
yay finally
thank you for your patience, Mira-san!
Asagi
PUTANG INA MO GRATZ!!!
NARANK N RIN HAHAHA
Frostmourne
Oh snap

I found some mistake after looking at it again when something is wrongly snapped at 04:16:314 (1) - (AI's Extra)
will re-rank quickly after it gets fixed :(
Stefan
Congrats Mira-san! :D

It has been a Long road
Hanjamon
Congratz to all ^^

neonat

Hanjamon wrote:

Congratz to all ^^

Mine too lols
Frostmourne
sheela
Yay! Congrats Mira-san!
Stefan

Frostmourne wrote:

haha I love you for that .gif :D
Topic Starter
Mira-san
SPOILER
It got unqualified but whatever.

Thank you everyone! (Everyone on the 'Special Thanks' box) and everyone who atleast posted in this thread.

Thank you to those who accepted testplays before (even the crappy ones before).: Lots of ppl. (Mekakushi Dan Members, Sinch, etc.)

Thank you to those who supported this map since I started making this map from the worst to 'atleast decent'.: guineaQ, Asagi, Kamidachi, and basically everyone on the front page.

And thank you to those who contributed a lot. As in a lot. Just to make this map better (at the final moment).: TicClick

Thank you for ranking this map and responded whenever I asked.: Frostmourne

Frostmourne wrote:

Now let the 1-week trial begin. :D
Lach
Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest. Here's a new one anyway http://puu.sh/bDTki/2ff9f91294.wav

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
Frostmourne

Lach wrote:

Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.
Kishidle
Congrats future-san owo
Topic Starter
Mira-san

VoidNoodle wrote:

Congrats future-san owo
Thanks! :D

Frostmourne wrote:

Lach wrote:

Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.
As for this, in case this map DOES get unqualified, I will carry out the changes Lach gave me. 8-)
Thanks!
Frostmourne
I and Mira-san decided to take an opportunity on this for getting more mods.

My apologies for those who have taken scores orz..

Also this map will be handled by another BATs from now. Good luck Mira-san ~
Lach

Frostmourne wrote:

Lach wrote:

Some people, when given an empty canvas decide to make everything overlap. Why is that, hmm?

Also, normal-hitnormal.wav, and soft-hitnormal.wav have a 10ms delay. Might as well get that fixed now. Overall the oriental hitsounds sound extremely out of place in this map, as the song is not oriental-sounding in the slightest

In the insane,

00:36:051 - there's no reason for there not be a circle here. As this is the only time it is done, and all the repetitions to follow use a triplet.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this combo is entirely wrong. Starting from 02:57:454 - , I think it would be better as this, or this.
As for the response to Lach, there are a plenty of maps using this bamboo-ish hitsound and have never been a problem so I don't get how this becomes a problem.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/162371
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57923
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/58785
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/100040
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/113686

00:36:051 - This is up to the mapper to follow the vocal if he/she wants when music calls it.
02:57:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - it follows stanza

Note that this can be unqualified again so input here is welcome.
If it were up to me, none of those maps would be using this bad sample. Sadly it has become so widespread that it's difficult to make sure everyone isn't using it. A 10ms delay on the primary sample (the one used upwards of 1000 times throughout a map) causes problems with player timing quickly.

Of course the two phrasing points I mentioned can be taken or left, it's no big deal. I just thought it played awkwardly as it is. Up to Mira-san.
Stefan
I just noticed I forgot to tell to adding my old username (TheNutritiousGuy) and its Abbreviation (TNG) as tags.. <_<

Can you add them quick?
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Stefan wrote:

I just noticed I forgot to tell to adding my old username (TheNutritiousGuy) and its Abbreviation (TNG) as tags.. <_<

Can you add them quick?
Sure thing. :D
guineaQ
Incoming shat/ragestorm

EDIT: NO KDS don't ask me why

hu3z3r'sFr33z3r's Easy

[General]
Yo NC is really funky


  • New C-C-Combo

    I'm just gonna tell you to NC every TWO offbeats for easy, seems like you NCing EVERY THREE OBJECTS
    which doesn't make sense imo
  1. 00:03:244 (1) - remove
  2. 00:03:594 (2) - add
  3. 00:04:998 (1) - remove
  4. 00:07:805 (1) - remove
  5. 00:10:612 (1) - remove
  6. 00:30:612 (1) - remove
  7. 00:32:016 (1) - remove
  8. 00:33:419 (3) - add
  9. 00:34:472 (1) - leave this one cus it's the start of the verse
  10. 00:35:875 (1) - remove
  11. 00:47:103 (1) - remove
  12. 00:49:910 (1) - remove
  13. 00:52:717 (1) - remove
  14. 00:55:524 (1) - remove
  15. 00:56:928 (2) - add
  16. 01:24:998 (1) - remove
    Let's stick with NCing every two offbeats since one line of chorus is basically two offbeats
  17. 01:32:016 (1) - remove
  18. 01:49:559 (1) - remove
  19. 01:50:612 (2) - add
  20. 02:46:402 (1,2,1,2) - ill leave this one since there is quite a vocal pitch change
  21. 02:52:016 (1,2,1,2,3) - same reason
  22. 03:10:261 (1) - remove
  23. 03:35:524 (1) - remove
  24. 03:55:875 (1) - remove
  25. 04:00:787 (1) - remove
  26. 04:06:402 (1) - remove
  27. 04:12:016 (1) - remove

  • Patterns & Cyanide & Cancer lololol
  1. 00:00:787 (1) - Is it necessary to start with reverse slider?
  2. 00:07:454 (3,1) - inconsistent spacing imo (is 0.7x difference negligible? looks negligible)
  3. 00:23:244 (1) - I don't think opening up with reverse slider is gut idea
  4. 01:27:805 (1) - blanket isn't perfect
  5. 01:35:524 (3) - yuuuh ^^
  6. 02:04:296 (1) - ^^ derp
  7. 02:08:156 (2,4) - inconsistent spacing in easy?
  8. 02:15:524 (5) - x:208 y:108

  • Hitsound
  1. 00:00:787 (1) - whistle on beginning
  2. 00:01:840 (2) - remove
  3. 00:02:191 (3) - whistle on beginning
  4. 00:04:998 (1) - whistle
  5. 00:05:700 (3) - whistle on beginning
  6. 00:24:296 - why u no hitsound
  7. 00:26:402 - you hitsounded the slider at the first slider, but not here?
  8. 00:27:805 - ^^
  9. 00:37:980 (2) - whistle at the end since you seem to put whistle where the vocal pitch gets high (pls consistency pls)
  10. 01:19:384 (1,3) - slider tick HS, without it sounds empty (cus u did it once, you should keep doing it)
  11. 01:24:647 (2) - add clap
  12. 01:46:051 (1) - consistency pls
  13. 01:46:051 (1) - finish at the end
  14. 02:04:296 (1) - slider tick HS, again, u already did it once, so keep doing it for consistency
  15. 02:07:103 (1,3) - ^^
  16. 02:12:717 (1,3) - ^^
  17. 02:53:770 (1,3) - add whistles
  18. 03:33:419 (3,4) - add whistles
  19. 03:39:033 (3) - clap at the end just doesn't sound right to me
  20. 03:52:016 (2) - clap
  21. 03:53:419 (4) - clap
  22. 03:59:384 (1,1) - tick HS
  23. 04:03:945 (2) - clap
  24. 04:04:647 (4) - welp this whistle-clap is random
  25. 04:04:998 (1,1) - tick HS
  26. 04:10:612 (1,1) - CONSISTENCY PLS (well you are inconsistently consistent wtf)
  27. 04:13:068 (2) - clappu
  28. 04:16:226 (1,3) - yeeeehehhhhhhhhh

neormalneonat's Normal

this hitsound


  • stuffu
  1. 00:29:209 - da emptiness is very stronk
  2. 01:12:366 (3) - wtf is this 3/4 slider doing in normalu, stuffs ending or starting in blue tick can confuse the living oblivion out of newbies playing normals
  3. 01:48:858 (3) - this is just personal, i don't like using double reverse cus it can really throw some ppl off
  4. 02:46:402 (1) - WHYYYY
  5. 03:42:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - combo color to grayish?
  6. 03:44:647 (5) - I would personally make it that it's 1/1 slider and a circle at the end for emphasis (than u can use cyan for combo color for the last circle)
  7. 03:57:103 (3) - this one is like living embodiment of awkwardness

  • hitu soundo
  1. 00:06:402 (1) - remove clap, claps sound weird on offbeats
  2. 00:07:805 (4) - ^^ and add clap in the middle
  3. 00:09:209 (1) - pls
  4. 00:10:612 (3) - plsu
  5. 00:23:244 (1) - clap at the end
  6. 00:24:296 (3) - clap
  7. 00:24:647 (4) - clap at the end
  8. 00:25:699 (6) - clap
  9. 00:26:051 (1) - same issue, just repeat using claps every 2nd 4th white tick every offbeat
  10. 00:27:454 (4,6) - claps
  11. 00:28:507 (6) - no real cymbal crash here to support a finish, remove
  12. 00:29:910 (2) - claps
  13. 00:30:261 (3,5) - claps
  14. 00:31:665 (1,3) - claps
  15. 02:26:752 (1) - to 02:59:384 (6) - why are u using normal instead of soft?

Gonna finish the rest little by little
TicClick
remember not to overmod this okay thank you
Taskmaster
Unranked again =w=
guineaQ

TicClick wrote:

remember not to overmod this okay thank you
relaxyou dont have to, its mostly NC hitsound focused mod.maybe it wasn't necessary to do this mod oh welp
Natsu
aw that priority, poke me when you feel ready ;)
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