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wowaka - World's End Dancehall (ROCKETMAN Remix) [Osu|Taiko]

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guineaQ

neonat wrote:

There are tougher spacing in Hards elsewhere, I think this one has already been lenient already, it's not big spacing. It's just more dense with objects compared to generally a number of Hards, but it's still fine.

I just think 02:22:542 (6) - is placed too weirdly

I derped around at 2 parts, whoops

If you intended to get the same accuracy as I did, you sir is a god.
jonathanlfj
alright only some minor things im gonna say, no kd

[Easy]
04:19:193 - there is an unsnapped green line, snap it to 04:19:209

[Neormal]
I'm gonna have to check with someone whether this diff name is rankable or not, been having a lot of issues lately with difficulty naming
also i think AR5.5 makes this easier to read

[Hard]
00:00:787 - the hitsounds in this section are way too loud, it should be like Insane with 40% volume

[Insane]
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm actually plays really confusing, i would swap 01:28:068 (2,3) for a slider instead

[AI's Extra]
01:09:559 (1,2,3,4) - due to the vocals here i'm always tempted to hit this as a continuous stream, might want to enlarge the spacing here
04:05:261 (3) - did you forget a clap here at the end? same goes to 04:06:665 (3)

The hitsounding is much better though still not the best, i guess i can let it go though since it doesn't detach from the music anymore. I will let you know about the difficulty naming for Normal.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

jonathanlfj wrote:

alright only some minor things im gonna say, no kd

[Easy]
04:19:193 - there is an unsnapped green line, snap it to 04:19:209


[Hard]
00:00:787 - the hitsounds in this section are way too loud, it should be like Insane with 40% volume

[Insane]
01:27:805 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm actually plays really confusing, i would swap 01:28:068 (2,3) for a slider instead

The hitsounding is much better though still not the best, i guess i can let it go though since it doesn't detach from the music anymore. I will let you know about the difficulty naming for Normal.
All fixed/changed. Regarding the Normal, I asked about it few months back and people from #modhelp said that it's fine. I'll try asking again as well.

Thanks again! :D
Stefan
Will check the Taiko Mod by [KEMU] asap, thanks for it.
jonathanlfj
for Easy, 04:19:193 - make sure you delete this green line

on the Extra, 04:06:665 (3,4) - these land on the same spot, you need to remove the repeat on 04:06:665 (3) or delete 04:06:840 (4)

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
Topic Starter
Mira-san

jonathanlfj wrote:

for Easy, 04:19:193 - make sure you delete this green line

on the Extra, 04:06:665 (3,4) - these land on the same spot, you need to remove the repeat on 04:06:665 (3) or delete 04:06:840 (4)

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
owo :DDDD
Stefan

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
MY TURN NOW HNNNG
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Stefan wrote:

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
MY TURN NOW HNNNG
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
guineaQ

Mira-san wrote:

jonathanlfj wrote:

EDIT: Here is the osu icon, you just need to get a Taiko BAT to approve the taiko diffs and get a bubble. Good Luck~
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
neonat
Had the same situation for my map xD
Ciyus Miapah

neonat wrote:

Had the same situation for my map xD
hue
Hollow Wings
from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

AI's Extra

  1. why not mute the slider track's hs?
  2. 00:24:998 (2) - hmm i should say this arrow is overlapped by that note, change it plz
  3. 04:02:191 (1) - ^

Insane

  1. 00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo
  2. 02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here
  3. 03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one
  4. 03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g
  5. composing's really random lol

Hard

  1. 00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo
  2. 01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol
  3. 01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow
  4. 02:49:910 (4,1) - ^
  5. 03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here

neonat's Normal

  1. 00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap
  2. 01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here?
  3. 01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket
  4. 01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe

Fr33z3R's Easy

  1. 01:48:858 (4,2) - stack, and blanket 01:49:559 (1,2) - maybe, other stuffs like this as well
that sb lol

good luck
Topic Starter
Mira-san

Hollow Wings wrote:

from Scorpiour's Modding Queue

so high sp, i just give a quick scan

Insane

  1. 00:29:384 (2) - set this at 72,304 or nearby for better flow? anti-flow here's not that necessary imo | Anti-flow intended.
  2. 02:03:419 (4,5) - i prefer ctrl+g here | Nah lol.
  3. 03:08:858 (1,2,3) - ctrl+g these one by one | I just ctrl+g'd (2). imo it's better lol.
  4. 03:15:524 (6) - ctrl+g | Would make a crappy flow imo.
  5. composing's really random lol | This diff is an overhaul (note how it's not a 'remap') of a remap of a remap. So yeah you could say that.

Hard

  1. 00:04:121 (2) - ctrl+g is better imo | Okay.
  2. 01:20:787 (1,1) - why not just stack things like this lol | Cuz no.
  3. 01:43:770 (9,2) - don't overlap that arrow | Why not? It's readable imo and I've seen others play it without having any problems on that part.
  4. 02:49:910 (4,1) - ^ | ^
  5. 03:44:998 (6) - it's 1/8 stream here | Yes, that part should use a 1/8 repeat slider but I intentionally used 1/4 because idk it can be confusing for newer players imo.

that sb lol | At its finest. Or probably not.

good luck
Thanks! (sentimental skyscraper plzzz)
neonat

Hollow Wings wrote:

neonat's Normal

  1. 00:29:384 (1,3) - avoid this overlap adjusted
  2. 01:12:366 (3) - why end at blue line here? end with vocal
  3. 01:16:577 (1,3) - perfect this blanket k
  4. 01:20:787 (3,4) - blanket maybe Not going to blanket
Thanks

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Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated.
Stefan
mintong will post the IRC Log we had.

Oni: http://puu.sh/beNHa/9168d1a723.txt
Muzukashii: http://puu.sh/beNJq/21426c3214.txt

They only have the Hitobjects so don't make a mess!
mintong89
SPOILER
08:18 mintong89: Actually I can bubble it by fix some pattern but ddK kkD such pattern is really bothering me, orz
08:19 mintong89: Mira-san's mapset
08:20 Stefan: If you want we can do IRC
08:20 Stefan: Because sometimes I don't really get the point.. :D
08:26 Stefan: However if these pattern aren't that good at all then I fix them
08:26 Stefan: Have to take a closer look
08:27 mintong89: I can't say it aren't good but I don't know how to really explain
08:27 mintong89: it's quite rare?
08:27 Stefan: If it plays weird, unconfortable, just not fitting
08:27 Stefan: Then it isn't good
08:27 Stefan: Is it one of these things?
08:29 mintong89: it's play uncomfortable, because it's rare, so some player might can't read to it then no enough time to switch finger
08:29 mintong89: That's what I think
08:31 Stefan: Hmm okay
08:31 mintong89: 00:22:191 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128) - The stream sound weird, how about kdddkkdkkddkd
08:32 mintong89: kkddkkdkkddkd is fine too
08:33 Stefan: I take the first one.
08:33 mintong89: ok
08:34 Stefan: And removed Finish from 00:23:244 (128).
08:38 mintong89: 02:41:489 (102) - k here to follow vocal?
08:39 Stefan: okay.
08:39 mintong89: 02:59:559 (233) - it sound just like 02:59:734 (234) - here (drum clap), so I think it's no need to change to d
08:39 mintong89: drum snare*
08:39 Stefan: Well... the voice is deeper here so I've put d here.
08:40 mintong89: hmm ok then
08:40 Stefan: But I think this isn't worth it.
08:40 Stefan: Changed~
08:40 mintong89: ok haha
08:40 mintong89: 03:25:700 - k here and 03:26:402 - here? you did k at all white line
08:41 mintong89: 03:23:595 (157,160,164) -
08:41 mintong89: 03:27:103 (170,174) -
08:41 mintong89: 03:31:314 (188,190) - here too, change to k
08:43 Stefan: Done
08:43 mintong89: i guess just these
08:43 mintong89: please check ddK kkD pattern, then we go to Muzuakshii
08:49 mintong89: beginning seem to more 1/4 note
08:49 mintong89: 00:12:016 - => 00:33:068 -
08:49 mintong89: 01:53:068 - => 02:15:524 - try use the pattern at here?
08:49 mintong89: or the end is fine too
08:50 mintong89: too more*
08:51 Stefan: So.. I should use some more 1/4 in these parts?
08:52 mintong89: no, the beginning is too more 1/4 pattern if compare to chorus, 01:53:068 - and 03:45:349 -
08:52 Stefan: Oh
08:52 mintong89: sorry, my english is suck x_x
08:53 Stefan: Nah, don't worry
08:53 Stefan: But I think it's fine because if I would decrease the Triplets the Muzu would be too easy
08:53 Stefan: compared to Oni
08:56 mintong89: then makes more hard to chorus?
08:57 Stefan: I did
08:59 mintong89: hmm ok
09:00 mintong89: do it and give it to mira-san
09:00 mintong89: i'll recheck again
09:06 Stefan: Done
09:06 Stefan: Are you going to post the log?
09:06 mintong89: ah sure, I'm already forget

Call me back to recheck then.
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated.

Thanks! :D
mintong89
Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~
Stefan

mintong89 wrote:

Bubbled!~
How I do feel at the moment
Topic Starter
Mira-san

mintong89 wrote:

Taiko is fine now.

Circled by jonathanlfj

Bubbled!~
Ok. FINALLY. hauehauehae :)
mintong89
Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

mintong89 wrote:

Rebubbled, he's change something accidentally and fixed.
My bad. hahah
Yumeno Himiko
gratz for the bubble!!
AruOtta
GOOOO \:D/
izzydemon
FINALLY GOD DAMN
Eni

Kenterz wrote:

GOOOO \:D/
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Thanks for the support everyone. :D
sheela
Finally!
TicClick
[General]
  1. Storyboard images must be at a reasonable size for their usage. For widescreen mode (recommended) the maximum is 960x540 pixels for 16:9 aspect ratio images. ← this is what I found in Ranking Criteria. Having an image with bigger dimensions is pointless, because it'll be downscaled (in case of 1366×768 it will be exactly 960×540) and then upscaled and only then used. It'll also reduce folder's size, so please consider using this (1366×768, filesize reduced) or this (960×540).
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?)
  2. 00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why?

    What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
    What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

    I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -

  3. 00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish
  4. 01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow
[Insane]
  1. 00:06:402 − 00:11:665 — this is oddly hitsounded. You can clearly hear the clapping sound appearing on 2nd and 4th white ticks, not on 1st: http://puu.sh/bidqL/81e58c1b84.jpg
  2. 00:19:033 (1) - well, its end looks broken. How about you consider a better (at least it looks better to me) shape: http://puu.sh/bidDe/df4f6de393.jpg
  3. 00:33:770 (3,4,5,6,1) - there's a clear 1/4 beat inthe background, yet you left it unmapped. Why?
  4. 01:22:191 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs to be 1 + 3 + 1 + 3, according to vocals you're trying to follow: http://puu.sh/biepy/6b594af984.jpg
  5. 01:41:840 (1) - you skipped a finish
  6. 02:52:016 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as before; remove (2) to get a correct notes placement
  7. 03:11:665 (1) - you skipped a finish
  8. 03:22:893 (1) - consider using drum finish
idk I like it even though you mapped only a few vocal parts the way they should've been mapped

[Hard]
  1. 02:21:840 (2,3,4,5,6) - shouldn't these have equal spacing?
  2. 02:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5) - same, you keep switching between 0.8? and 0.6
  3. 03:17:980 (3,4) - may be too harsh for a Hard, consider reducing it
[neonat's Normal]
  1. 00:12:016 (5) - that'd be cool to use a new combo here, because the storyboard gains colour exactly at this time
  2. 02:35:173 (1,2) - why did you use claps on vocals? They're horrible to listen to, and I am pretty sure you wanted to put a clap on 02:36:226 (3) - 's head
  3. 02:52:016 (1,2) - same as above
  4. 02:54:823 (1,1) - ^
  5. 03:12:717 (4) - missed a clap?
[Fr33z3R's Easy]
OD-1
  1. 00:11:665 (2) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat at 00:12:016
  2. 00:34:472 (7) - should have a new combo instead of 00:34:823 (1) -
  3. 00:37:279 (2) - same

    well whatever, I'll just paste lolcubes' words as a good explanation:

    Generally, every combo should be a part of a section as a whole, usually one or two measures (stanzas) long. This may not always be the case (there are times when you can have a single note in a combo which fits, it all depends on what the objects follow in the music), however comboing should not be random.
    A lot of mapping styles tend to use their own new combo placements and the purpose of a new combo may have shifted it's meaning, but it's still easy to notice if the comboing makes no sense. Starting a new musical section with, lets say an object with a number 6, doesn't really make much sense.


    AND NOW BACK TO MODDING (I ASSUME YOU FIXED ALL NEW COMBO PROBLEMS AFTER CHECKING THE WHOLE DIFFICULTY BY YOURSELF)

  4. 00:55:524 (3) - I'd like you to replace it with two notes to not skip the downbeat on its end
  5. 01:42:191 (2) - reverse it? plays a bit better, I think
  6. 01:53:419 - you don't need this offset
  7. 04:02:191 (7) - missed finish
  8. 04:13:419 (5) - ^ (also remove clap, sounds out of place)
neonat
Changed some claps, added the new combo

SPOILER
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348,240,196402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,220,196577,2,0,P|240:200|184:224,1,120.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,308,197279,70,0,P|112:332|36:296,1,120.000000596046,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
20,272,197805,1,0,0:0:0:0:
8,224,197980,2,0,L|8:144,3,60.000000298023,0|8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
28,120,198682,2,0,L|76:64,3,60.000000298023,0|0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,68,199384,2,0,P|184:84|236:64,1,120.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,144,200086,6,0,P|304:196|372:204,1,120.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,180,200612,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,160,200787,2,0,P|500:172|508:236,1,120.000000596046,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,268,201314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,296,201489,2,0,B|404:324|368:304|324:324,1,120.000000596046
236,292,202191,1,0,0:0:0:0:
164,356,202542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,304,202893,21,4,0:0:0:0:
36,224,203244,2,0,P|40:188|52:164,2,45.0000019401311,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,232,203945,2,0,L|180:216,1,45.0000019401311
204,192,204296,2,0,L|268:188,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,208,204647,2,0,L|340:192,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,156,204998,2,0,P|408:140|448:152,2,90.0000038802622,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206226,5,0,0:0:0:0:
244,84,206402,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,28,206928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,28,207103,2,0,P|72:36|52:84,1,90.0000038802622,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,112,207805,2,0,P|99:142|44:152,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,236,208507,86,0,L|100:316,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,340,209033,2,0,L|184:356,1,45.0000019401311,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,280,209559,2,0,L|280:280,1,45.0000019401311,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,312,209910,2,0,L|360:300,1,45.0000019401311,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,272,210261,2,0,L|424:280,2,45.0000019401311,2|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,224,210963,2,0,L|216:168,1,90.0000038802622,0|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,211840,5,0,0:0:0:0:
160,52,212016,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212542,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,84,212717,2,0,P|344:100|384:72,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
428,16,213419,2,0,P|464:12|508:60,1,90.0000038802622
480,132,214121,86,0,L|480:240,1,90.0000038802622,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,268,214647,1,4,0:0:0:0:
484,312,214823,2,0,P|460:344|412:348,1,90.0000038802622,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,332,215349,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,304,215524,2,0,P|284:292|236:308,2,90.0000038802622,4|4|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216577,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,236,216928,6,0,P|404:192|368:104,1,135.000005820393,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,108,217630,2,0,P|280:120|232:104,1,90.0000038802622,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,20,218331,2,0,P|268:12|316:24,2,90.0000038802622,4|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,80,219384,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,156,219735,86,0,L|164:244,1,90.0000038802622,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,276,220437,2,0,L|156:348,1,90.0000038802622,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,340,221138,2,0,L|32:364,4,45.0000019401311,2|0|2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
92,252,222191,1,8,0:0:0:0:
160,192,222542,21,4,0:0:0:0:
304,84,223244,1,4,0:0:0:0:
160,192,223945,1,4,0:0:0:0:
248,176,224296,1,4,0:0:0:0:
328,212,224647,2,0,B|400:200|448:236|512:212,1,180.000007760524,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,188,236577,5,4,0:0:0:0:
296,116,236928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,108,237103,2,0,P|380:112|412:232,1,180.000000894069,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,196,237980,2,0,P|324:264|480:296,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,144,239384,2,0,P|505:188|505:256,1,240.000001192092,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,356,240787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,360,241489,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,196,242191,86,0,P|65:163|121:145,2,90.0000004470345,4|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,240,243244,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,300,243595,2,0,P|232:248|100:148,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,332,244998,2,0,P|40:228|60:176,1,240.000001192092,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,32,246402,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,32,247103,1,2,0:0:0:0:
260,184,247805,6,0,P|312:196|332:324,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,308,248858,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,296,249209,2,0,L|-12:248,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,200,249910,2,0,L|192:152,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,76,250612,85,0,0:0:0:0:
316,16,250963,1,2,0:0:0:0:
412,24,251314,1,0,0:0:0:0:
488,80,251665,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,124,252016,2,0,P|352:136|304:204,2,120.000000596046,0|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,124,253068,1,2,0:0:0:0:
396,220,253419,6,0,P|344:276|236:248,1,180.000000894069,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,192,254472,1,2,0:0:0:0:
120,288,254823,2,0,P|176:272|219:202,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,128,255524,2,0,P|155:95|81:105,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
12,144,256226,86,0,P|-2:200|33:267,1,120.000000596046,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,308,256928,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,364,257279,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,316,257630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,257980,12,4,259033,0:0:0:0:
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated. Major changes within the Insane. Thank you. :D
_AI

TicClick wrote:

[General]
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:29:209 (2,3) - when playtesting, I read this as 1/4 with no gap in between, several times in a row. Increase the spacing to make it readable, maybe (or is it just me?) Fixed! My bad mistake...
  2. 00:37:279 (1,2) - patterns like this one are confusing as hell to me, because they don't follow the song. Why? Why is it confusing you? It fit just the way I thought.

    What I expect to play and also see on most of vocals: http://puu.sh/bifMG/19799053d9.jpg
    What I actually see: http://puu.sh/bifPJ/fb5533560d.jpg

    I'd strongly recommend you to fix every pattern that does not follow the vocals, because it is misleading. And, most of the nowadays maps (hel;l, even Mira's Insane in this mapset) have 1/4 spaced out as 1/2 on your difficulty. You also make it deceiving by using the same spacing b/ween 1/2 and 1/4 within a few seconds; example: 01:11:314 (4,5) -

  3. 00:56:928 (3) - missed a finish Fixed
  4. 01:07:366 (4,5,6,7) - please start them on red/white ticks because blue ones are insanely hard to catch and follow
Fixed
Mira-san : http://puu.sh/bpfti/3450a80736.osu
Topic Starter
Mira-san
Updated. Thanks! :)
TicClick

_AI wrote:

00:37:279 (1,2) - why do you insist on keeping this? Patterns like this one need to follow vocals, which are on 3/4:


You should really, really consider to map it properly. Even Insane, which is easier than Extra, has all of these patterns fixed, so that they match the vocaloid's voice now, and it has resulted in a much better play experience one can achieve while playing the map.
TicClick
Recheck

[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
  3. 00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
  4. 00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
  5. 00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
  6. 00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
  7. 00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
  8. 00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
  9. 00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
  10. 00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
  11. 01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
  12. 01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
  13. 01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
  14. 01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
  15. 01:50:963 (1) - same as above
  16. 02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
  17. 02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
  18. 02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
  19. 02:30:963 (1) - ^
  20. 02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
  21. 03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
  22. 03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
  23. 03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
  24. 03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
  25. 03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
  26. 04:02:191 (1) - ^
[Insane]
  1. 00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
  2. 00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
  3. 01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
  4. 02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
  5. 02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
  6. 02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
  7. 03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
  8. 03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
  9. 04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
  10. 04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
  11. 04:08:068 - map it!
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
  2. 00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
  3. 00:50:173 (2) - ^
  4. 00:51:226 (9) - ^
  5. 00:54:033 (5) - ^
  6. 00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
  7. 01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
  8. 01:13:682 (9) - ^
  9. 01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  10. 01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
  11. 02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
  12. 03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  13. 03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
  14. 03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
  15. 03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
  16. 04:00:787 (8) - ^
  17. 04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
  18. 04:04:998 (4) - add NC
  19. 04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
  20. 04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
  21. 04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
  22. 04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?
[Fr33z3R's Easy]
  1. 00:11:665 (2) - add clap
  2. 00:12:016 (3) - add NC? looks cool, just like on neonat's

    Once again, I'll ask you to go through the whole difficulty and add new combos ONLY on downbeats (big white ticks), removing the rest of them that don't follow this requirement.
Topic Starter
Mira-san

TicClick wrote:

Recheck

[Insane]
  1. 00:37:542 - should be mapped for consistency
  2. 00:56:489 (12) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset on tail
  3. 01:11:226 - same; I'd replace 01:11:314 (4) - with 2 notes after that
  4. 02:04:296 (1) - extend it by 1/4; not critical, but it's really worth it
  5. 02:33:419 (5,6) - what's with this sudden spacing drop? Consider moving 6 somewhere to the rright for a better readability
  6. 02:55:349 (3,4,5,6,7) - idk why I skipped this a week ago, but it should start with 1/4 notes (don't use the slider!): http://puu.sh/btmKY/74da83cd31.jpg
  7. 03:55:524 (2,3,4) - instead of ignoring 1/4 from the music, you could map it. Why don't you remove these sliders and map a tiny stream of 7 or 9 notes?
  8. 03:56:577 (1) - as said before, extend it by 1/4 for a better play
  9. 04:02:191 (1) - I'd do ^ (remove note + extend by 1/4), but it's "fine"
  10. 04:07:279 (7) - and again, there's clear 1/4 notes you skipped and covered with a repeating slider
  11. 04:08:068 - map it!
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:612 (1) - remove clap from the head
  2. 00:39:998 (6) - mapped to nothing
  3. 00:50:173 (2) - ^
  4. 00:51:226 (9) - ^
  5. 00:54:033 (5) - ^
  6. 00:56:577 (3) - like I recommended on Extra, use normal sampleset?
  7. 01:10:875 (8) - and again, these notes that are mapped to nothing. Yes, you can use them to shake the player, but you don't need to do it this often; it's pointless to add many notes that don't follow anything in the song
  8. 01:13:682 (9) - ^
  9. 01:33:945 (5,1) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  10. 01:40:086 (4) - could you please rotate it, because it's uncomfortable to play due to its direction? It will be much easier to follow after you change it: example: http://puu.sh/btnWp/d1ad49c13d.jpg
  11. 02:26:752 - and again, this part has many unnecessary 1/4s. Let's say, remove each second of them
  12. 03:03:770 (3,4) - this is not really comfortable to play, because the next note is placed behind the slider's repeating arrow, which sends you in the opposite direction
  13. 03:21:489 (3,4) - space them out, because this looks like 1/2 and can be misread
  14. 03:56:489 (1,2) - new combo should be on 2, not 1
  15. 03:59:384 (3) - new combo (NC for short) should be here, not before
  16. 04:00:787 (8) - ^
  17. 04:03:594 (6) - NC should be here, not later
  18. 04:04:998 (4) - add NC
  19. 04:07:805 (1) - missed finish
  20. 04:09:910 (1) - missed whistle
  21. 04:09:208 (5) - add NC and remove it from 04:09:910 (1) -
  22. 04:10:612 (3) - add NC. It will be easier if I just tell you to put them on every big white tick and remove these which aren't there, okay?
I'm actually too lazy to deny something lol.
Thanks!
_AI

TicClick wrote:

Recheck

[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:34:998 (3,4,5) - why the antijump? Consider increasing the spacing
  2. 00:35:875 (1,2) - what. This looks too random and not really suitable right here
  3. 00:37:630 (2,3) - increase the spacing, it's horribly low
  4. 00:38:682 (6) - extend by 1/4
  5. 00:40:524 (3) - this is mapped to nothing. Remove the note and move 00:40:612 (4) - somewhere (it's not worth stacking)
  6. 00:43:156 - there should be a note or something to match vocals; I don't know how to fix, though
  7. 00:45:700 (1,2) - mind increasing the spacing?
  8. 00:48:770 - there should be a note or something to match vocals
  9. 00:55:524 (1,2) - increase the spacing a bit, 0.5 works great
  10. 00:56:577 (2) - use normal sampleset on head
  11. 01:10:963 (1,2) - I'd decrease the spacing because I didn't expect this to start on the red tick, because you were using blue ones just half a second before
  12. 01:43:595 (3,4) - why the low spacing? It only breaks the movement
  13. 01:44:384 (5) - the sound you were trying to follow starts on the white tick 1/4 before. Shorten 01:43:945 (4) - by 1/4 and start 01:44:384 (5) - from the white tick, extending it by one repeat
  14. 01:50:261 (2) - why is this 3/4? It doesn't follow the song, please cut by 1/4
  15. 01:50:963 (1) - same as above
  16. 02:03:595 (3,4,5,6,7) - if you listen closely, you'll notice there should be no gaps between 5 and 6 AND 6 and 7 and the whole part is a short stream
  17. 02:14:647 (5,6) - increase the spacing for a better movement after bouncing off the repeat arrow
  18. 02:28:156 (1) - extend by 1/4 (move the note)
  19. 02:30:963 (1) - ^
  20. 02:42:366 (2) - well.. there's a sound on the blue tick you missed, and I'd recommend to map it for consistency: 02:42:454
  21. 03:14:998 (1,2) - swap them on the time line because it plays better (vocals on 03:15:173 are stronger than these on the red tick)
  22. 03:16:665 (4) - this is mapped to nothing, vocals are plain 1/2
  23. 03:18:068 (4) - same as above. Why don't you use a slider instead of the whole triplet?
  24. 03:36:577 (1,2,3,4) - sorry, but this is overmapped
  25. 03:56:577 (1,2) - claps are unnecessary and don't go well with vocals
  26. 04:02:191 (1) - ^
[/list]
Done everything!
Mira-san : http://puu.sh/buI9e/528a6449de.osu
TicClick
okay, sooooo here are m,y (probably) last complaints.

You don't need epilepsy warning!

[Fr33z3R's Easy]
  1. 00:12:016 (1) - make it green, and 00:23:244 (1) - too
  2. 01:01:489 (1,2) - idk if that's needed, a full break would probably be better
[Hard]
  1. 03:46:752 (7) - NC missing, remove from 03:47:279 (1) -
  2. 03:59:384 (3) - NC missing, remove from 03:59:208 (1) -
  3. 04:00:787 (6) - NC missing, remove from 04:01:314 (1) -
[AI's Extra]
  1. 00:37:630 (2) - missing clap
  2. 00:38:682 (6) - forgot to extend by 1/4
  3. 02:03:945 (6) - head is missing a clap. Also add it to the head of 02:03:770 (5) - if you wish
  4. 03:21:314 (7,1,2) - awful to read because 7-1 has higher spacing than 1-2, and 7-1 are 1/2 apart, while 1-2 are 3/4 apart. Looks like a spacing error, could be fixed by moving 03:21:489 (1) - up and left, so it forms a square of some kind: http://puu.sh/bvRnS/f273b12a53.jpg
  5. 03:57:279 (2) - forgot to remove clap
TicClick
double post because why not
Rebubbled!

I couldn't rank it right away because of significant changes, so I restored the bubble. Cheer up! I'll try to find someone to check your map.
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