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Poll 3: Sharing your bandwidth

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How do you feel about helping distribute maps you have downloaded?

I would share bandwidth only while osu! is open and active.
89
39.04%
I would be happy to share even while not playing osu! (idle at menu or systray icon).
125
54.82%
I am strongly against sharing my bandwidth.
14
6.14%
Total votes: 228
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Skyripper
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I would normally be fine with something like this in a home environment, but I really can't do this at school (where I will live for at least the next 6 months). I know plenty of people who have been banned from use of the network for similar bandwidth expenditure (IT guys track bandwidth upload/download use). Since I am a computing based major, this wouldn't be too great for me -_-.

This is an especially sensitive issue because we are sharing music that we do not own in most cases.
Nachy
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I'm pretty fine sharing it, even when osu! isn't open.
Ephemeral
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As long as upload caps can be specified by the user, I have absolutely no problem sharing bandwidth.

My upload rate is abominable (a by-product of Telstra internet) and similar to other concerns expressed in this thread already, my uploads do count towards my usage cap and thus need to be carefully monitored.
eMkay
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I definitely think this is a good idea because i'm seeding torrents as well so no problem with seeding when i'm not playing ;) I Have 16 MBit so i could seed at 1MBit ( NOT MBYTE) max ;) But then i would also add sort of a reward system just what Lohiner said ;)
Skyripper
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Ephemeral wrote:

As long as upload caps can be specified by the user, I have absolutely no problem sharing bandwidth.
RemmyX25
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While I'm at home, i'd love to seed, but I'd probably have to set up a box just for this purpose while im away at college. I wouldn't be able to seed while at the college
Gabi
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big support for this. just a question.


Would this allow us to share maps that aren't uploaded to osu?
Breeze
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I'm happy to share, I wonder whether if would effect connect to bancho or whether it would made game lag.
Same to skyripper, school net is terrible...and most times I'm in school
So just make a option that user could choose whether share and how to share? Emm...
I was always want to support osu! But I can't transact a credit card without a stable work, I'm still a student orz
peppy
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It helps if you read the opening post, where all the questions you asked are already answered.
nsane
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Will subscribers still be able to d/l directly or is that not going to be an option at all? Near future; any guesses as to when you'll implement this?

Also:

Peppy wrote:

Most people have limits placed on how much they can download, but not upload. There are of course some exceptions to this rule, but that is the general way things work.
Good old Comcast! Their limit is on both up and down.
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Aoitenshi
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SUPERB. HYPERLY. SUPPORT. THIS. LIKE. OSU'S. LOYAL. FOLLOWER. I. DON'T. CARE. IF. ANYONE. DOESN'T. AGREE. WITH . THIS. I. WANT. TO. SUPPORT. OSU!

Okay. okay, enough with that thing, i choose option 1. I don't want osu to be dying.
anonymous_old
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Aoitenshi wrote:

SUPERB. HYPERLY. SUPPORT. THIS. LIKE. OSU'S. LOYAL. FOLLOWER. I. DON'T. CARE. IF. ANYONE. DOESN'T. AGREE. WITH . THIS. I. WANT. TO. SUPPORT. OSU!

Okay. okay, enough with that thing, i choose option 1. I don't want osu to be dying.
Who said it's dying?
Ekaru
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Currently, no. Maybe when we change ISPs soon, but no one should be stuck trying to download at 10 kb/s (I LOVE MY UPLOAD SPEED) from this bad connection... and then have it randomly cut off mid-download. So unstable.

Mainly our internet sucks majorly right now and would frustrate any user trying to download off of me while also killing my brother in the games that he plays when he's home, and making my other brother wonder why the internet is so damn slow.

...So yeah. Maybe if/when we get a stable connection that would/could/will/maybe change.
Soaprman
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Regardless of whether it's only when osu! is open or a separate application, as long as it can be turned off when needed for those of us with shitty bandwidth, I don't see how this could be anything but good.

I voted option 2.
xlcwzx
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I'd like to share my bandwidth all the time when I'm connected to the internet, even when the osu! is off. So I hope the P2P program can be divided from osu! so that it can be opened all the time and won't cost the CPU too much.
Each time we start osu! the program will be started, other time we can also start and close it manually. Besides I hope the program can provide detials about "how much you've uploaded, how much you've downloaded", just like a PT site(maybe we can even use the upload amount to limit the user's download, also like a PT site).
ignorethis
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I'm happy to share my bandwidth but it seems I can't donate too much compared to other people. My internet connection does suck. D:
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Andrea
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2nd option.

I wanna help if possible ^_^
SteRRuM
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SteRRuM
2nd
Kytoxid
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Kinda curious on how upload will work; will the server still act as a P2P "seeder"?
Card N'FoRcE
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Actually, i can't decide between option 1 and 2.

There's something i don't uderstand about option 2: we can have an external service running to keep sharing, but has the user any power about "when" it's active?
I mean, i'm fine with both an internal (that would be opt 1, closing when osu is closed) or an external (opt 2, active even if osu is not running) solution, but i really think we should also get some way to monitor and turn this off sometimes.

As many people already stated, lots of users also run osu from places like university (i do that too, sometimes) and in those places any kind of P2P software is not allowed.

The main problem about this argument is that if too many people turn sharing off, we get lots of leechers/peers but no seeds.

So, i'd like to hear some more details before giving an answer >.<
anonymous_old
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

There's something i don't uderstand about option 2: we can have an external service running to keep sharing, but has the user any power about "when" it's active?
I mean, i'm fine with both an internal (that would be opt 1, closing when osu is closed) or an external (opt 2, active even if osu is not running) solution, but i really think we should also get some way to monitor and turn this off sometimes.
I'd imagine it'd be like a torrent client (e.g. uTorrent), with a systray icon or some web interface.

As many people already stated, lots of users also run osu from places like university (i do that too, sometimes) and in those places any kind of P2P software is not allowed.

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

The main problem about this argument is that if too many people turn sharing off, we get lots of leechers/peers but no seeds.
The current server would be the "master" seed, no?
CheeseWarlock
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Loginer's on to something with the kudosu idea: a minor reward for users who seed. I support this either way, though.
anonymous_old
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I like a P2P system, but less-recognized maps will be slower.
Repflez
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For me it's ok to share my bandwidth (that's because my pc is on all day) but the problem is that most people runs osu in universities as some guys here stated.
cyanberryio
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I wouldn't mind too much. I get every ranked map possible, so I'd be glad to share/seed sometimes. :)
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awp
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Real1 wrote:

Ohh ohh ohh, 1 kudosu per 100mb uploaded!!! Add that!! With a max of, say 10 kudosu per day.
kinda OP for anyone planning to seed to the limit daily. 70 free kd a week?

I don't know if kd is a suitable award, since it's often regarded as a measurement tool to contributions to modding. It'd be in the same vein as buying kudosu!.

Really, I think leaderboards would be enough for those of us who are good-hearted, but because that isn't enough, maybe every 3x GB of (upload - download) nets you a month's subscription where x is perceived value of prescription cost in terms of bandwidth usage (3 is just an example, use whatever constant or additional variable you so desire)

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={
Real1
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awp wrote:

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={

Yeah, that's good too. <3
anonymous_old
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Announcements in #osu, maybe?

awp has uploaded 10GB in maps! Thanks for your support!
awp
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Also, Total Upload achievements, to encourage all the trophy hunters
Kytoxid
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awp wrote:

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={
Post count? :P
Pokebis
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Use more mediafire.
awp
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Pokebis wrote:

Use more mediafire.
if people did, there wouldn't be a problem

unless they are forced to do the intelligent thing, they will do the stupid thing
Derekku
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I disagree with the kd reward as well, but some kind of "reward" would probably fare well. :P
ttker
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I would be happy to share even while not playing osu!
Wojjan
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Various countries have an internet cap. If I seed/share/whatefver all my maps then I won't be able to ever see a youtube until a gazillion years in the future. I really don't want this trouble. It's hard enough for me to get by with WGCS right now. If this gets implemented, I want a function to turn it off.
Pokebis
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Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
Skyripper
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Pokebis wrote:

Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
yeah I would disable this feature if possible (if implemented)
Lybydose
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Pokebis wrote:

Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
On that note, it would also be nice to control which songs I want to distribute and which ones I don't. Some of the songs on here carry a much higher chance of legal penalties than others.
bagnz0r
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peppy wrote:

It is a fact that I can't keep providing direct downloads for beatmaps to the level I currently am. Donations/subscriptions do not cover the costs of bandwidth. For example, a one month subscription ($4) will provide around 20gb of traffic, which depending on how outgoing the user that subscribed is, may only cover 3-4 users' traffic.

In the near future there will be the introduction of a peer to peer distribution system. It will mean some changes to how beatmaps are downloaded and loaded into osu!. For the purpose of this discussion, let us assume the system works perfectly and speed of downloads will not be affected.

I want to find out how people feel about sharing their bandwidth (outgoing) and how willing they are to help ensure availability of maps. Bandwidth usage will be optimised to have no effect on gameplay, and have a setting for usage when minimised/idle.
I told you that once peppy, why won't you use my server to distribute traffic? It's based in Poland. In fact, i can't provide much...
10GB for holding maps, 150GB mo. traffic and 6Mbps per-user DL cap... But it's always something. Once I'll get enough money to upgrade my server, you could even have 80GB for maps and 600GB mo. traffic.

Besides, speaking of P2P. You mean torrent? Because, that's the only solution for me. If so, that'd be cool. :P
Randy96
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Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
Pokebis
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Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
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Pokebis wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
There actually are ads. You just cant see them while logged in.
Randy96
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Really? Where? I logged off for a bit, but couldn't find them.
(Yeah, I disabled Adblock.)
RemmyX25
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First post of every thread.
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BagnoGamer wrote:

Once I'll get enough money to upgrade my server, you could even have 80GB for maps and 600GB mo. traffic.
Thing is, I've seen osu! chew through this much bandwidth in a couple days. That was in 2008. Now, it might be possible to eat 600GB bandwidth in an afternoon.
Randy96
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I see, but that probably doesn't make too much revenue.
deadbeat
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I'd do it in a heartbeat if i could but sadly i can't yet. the speed here can be dam slow and my dad normally needs it for work...if it gets any slower it will become too impossible for him too work..once i get my own place i'll try help out thou :)
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Pokebis wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
I think it's more of a principle thing, since ads can make a webpage look awful, and many of them are animated, which usually annoys the hell out of users. Besides, more ads would only pay for a fraction of the bandwidth used.
Randy96
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@Loginer: I suppose it's better than nothing at the least.
Intermezzo
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Kytoxid
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Skyripper wrote:

Well on my campus specifically, they monitor bandwidth usage in general. They tag high upload and download bandwidth activity and monitor those accounts for a few week period. After that they start a more forensic investigation.

I'm admittedly paranoid, and always keep my bandwidth usage to a minimum.
My Internet just gets cut off at 8 GB combined upload/download every week, and a warning gets posted on my door. (although they do also do some scanning for P2P stuff and whatnots)
anonymous_old
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P2P is a fantastic idea！undoubtedly, I'll support it！
Jeffro
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Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
Randy96
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Jeffro wrote:

Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
The thing with this is, some maps might have as many as 20 mirrors, while others might not have any.
The popularity of maps comes into factor if this is implemented.
Jeffro
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Randy96 wrote:

Jeffro wrote:

Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
The thing with this is, some maps might have as many as 20 mirrors, while others might not have any.
The popularity of maps comes into factor if this is implemented.
Still this would be a good option for a whole load of maps or maybe someone could just give peppy full access so he could mirror all maps :)
Randy96
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I suppose.
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Randy96
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Perhaps there could be different buttons for different mirrors?

Like [Download] [Download from Mirrors]
[Download] will just be what we have now, and if [Download from Mirrors] is selected, a list will be brought up and the user could choose the preferred mirror.
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Randy96 wrote:

Perhaps there could be different buttons for different mirrors?

Like [Download] [Download from Mirrors]
[Download] will just be what we have now, and if [Download from Mirrors] is selected, a list will be brought up and the user could choose the preferred mirror.
Only power users would use this, I'd imagine, and it'd confuse normal users. The number of power users is too small for a gain, IMO.
Jeffro
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strager wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Perhaps there could be different buttons for different mirrors?

Like [Download] [Download from Mirrors]
[Download] will just be what we have now, and if [Download from Mirrors] is selected, a list will be brought up and the user could choose the preferred mirror.
Only power users would use this, I'd imagine, and it'd confuse normal users. The number of power users is too small for a gain, IMO.
Set mirror as default download and add a report this link is broken and if that happens let people download it from the official server.
rust45
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I just got into the P2P business, and I think this would be a great idea. I voted for option 1 cause I wasn't quite sure how it worked but now I want to vote for option 2.
alcoatjez
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Option 2 here, I will share as much as I can.
Rankings would be nice, it will probably motivate me to leave my PC on more often.
Atmey
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I would like to share my bandwidth, but my damn ISP limits uploading to 1/8 of downloading. As long as I can control the upload speed I wouldn't mind. which will be around 10kbs.
peppy
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Well it is good to see most of the response is positive hear.

From what I can see, not many are against the concept, but there definitely needs to be:
*A user-set maximum speed limit.
*The option to disable altogether (with the possibility of a slight speed limitation in heavy load situations).
*A statistic to show how much you are uploading, and rankings.

Touching on the mirror suggestion: I already have a system setup to manage mirrors, which involves two-way communication with the main server to ensure downloads are secure and throttled, as well as being automatically distributed. I previously made a call asking people who are willing to mirror maps, but the response was very small so find the p2p option a much more stable and future-proof path to take.

That said, considering I am almost exceeding my current bandwidth allowance (and can't afford to increase it further for the time being) I am happy to have offers for mirroring - just make sure you can spare at least 500gb of traffic and are hosting your mirror on non-shared hosting (unless you are sharing privately with friends). This means no godaddy/dreamhost/whatnot.
Skyripper
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peppy wrote:

*A user-set maximum speed limit.
*The option to disable altogether (with the possibility of a slight speed limitation in heavy load situations).
I change my answer to supporting this idea fully in this case.
Jeffro
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peppy wrote:

Well it is good to see most of the response is positive hear.

From what I can see, not many are against the concept, but there definitely needs to be:
*A user-set maximum speed limit.
*The option to disable altogether (with the possibility of a slight speed limitation in heavy load situations).
*A statistic to show how much you are uploading, and rankings.

Touching on the mirror suggestion: I already have a system setup to manage mirrors, which involves two-way communication with the main server to ensure downloads are secure and throttled, as well as being automatically distributed. I previously made a call asking people who are willing to mirror maps, but the response was very small so find the p2p option a much more stable and future-proof path to take.

That said, considering I am almost exceeding my current bandwidth allowance (and can't afford to increase it further for the time being) I am happy to have offers for mirroring - just make sure you can spare at least 500gb of traffic and are hosting your mirror on non-shared hosting (unless you are sharing privately with friends). This means no godaddy/dreamhost/whatnot.
Too bad I can't offer you one at the moment. Btw, what do you currently use for hosting the beatmaps? I'm curious to the stats. Also to the people with seedboxes here just install apache and help peppy out there :D
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peppy wrote:

Tipping over 14tb/month at the moment...
Wow thats alot. We really should get a server which can run from a bandwidthless environment.
awp
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Yeah I don't think I can limit my distribution to a fixed value, so if I mirror, same old song and dance there. Over the limit, friends angry, server down
yaya
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if i can help others , i'll do it .
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We know that quite a number of people just delete the skins and videos in a map, so that they won't be disturbed and can get better scores. Such kind of people are mostly those good at this game, at the same time those who have more maps, so I think they will be the main point in this P2P system.
But as I've pointed out, if they've cut most of the skins and videos, there's only the .osu file remained to be uploaded.
So I suppose it's time that something should be done to encourage them to keep the skins and videos, maybe a mod called "no skin", just like the "no video".
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Jeffro
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xlcwzx wrote:

We know that quite a number of people just delete the skins and videos in a map, so that they won't be disturbed and can get better scores. Such kind of people are mostly those good at this game, at the same time those who have more maps, so I think they will be the main point in this P2P system.
But as I've pointed out, if they've cut most of the skins and videos, there's only the .osu file remained to be uploaded.
So I suppose it's time that something should be done to encourage them to keep the skins and videos, maybe a mod called "no skin", just like the "no video".
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Good Idea, a no skin option would certainly help. Or either just make it so ppl can't get a score on incomplete maps.
Intermezzo
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xlcwzx wrote:

We know that quite a number of people just delete the skins and videos in a map, so that they won't be disturbed and can get better scores. Such kind of people are mostly those good at this game, at the same time those who have more maps, so I think they will be the main point in this P2P system.
But as I've pointed out, if they've cut most of the skins and videos, there's only the .osu file remained to be uploaded.
So I suppose it's time that something should be done to encourage them to keep the skins and videos, maybe a mod called "no skin", just like the "no video".
That won't be a problem: p2p will be released concurrently with osz2 (which doesn't allow the deletion of skins / custom hitsounds). There also won't be any no-skin version, however there will still be a no-video version available to download for low-bandwidth users.
Jeffro
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Intermezzo wrote:

xlcwzx wrote:

We know that quite a number of people just delete the skins and videos in a map, so that they won't be disturbed and can get better scores. Such kind of people are mostly those good at this game, at the same time those who have more maps, so I think they will be the main point in this P2P system.
But as I've pointed out, if they've cut most of the skins and videos, there's only the .osu file remained to be uploaded.
So I suppose it's time that something should be done to encourage them to keep the skins and videos, maybe a mod called "no skin", just like the "no video".
That won't be a problem: p2p will be released concurrently with osz2 (which doesn't allow the deletion of skins / custom hitsounds). There also won't be any no-skin version, however there will still be a no-video version available to download for low-bandwidth users.
Nice, this would be good :D
tudanmeng
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tudanmeng
Maybe BT is a good way to solve this problem?
anonymous_old
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tudanmeng wrote:

Maybe BT is a good way to solve this problem?
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nardii
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nardii
strager, why don't you stop with the bullshit and actually seriously reply to something for once. Like this:

tudanmeng wrote:

Maybe BT is a good way to solve this problem?
No (well yes kinda but no).
Curisu
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Curisu
object 2 :I would be happy to share even while not playing osu! (idle at menu or systray icon).
We should share our bandwidth
I'd love to
Jeffro
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Jeffro
I'm still wondering, how would this work for pending maps?
awp
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could share just the audio file + any unchanged elements, and get the .osu files directly from the osu! server (as is now)
finalprodigy
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finalprodigy
object 2

I'm happy to share when osu! is running.
Macworld
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Macworld
object 2 :)
sanqian_old
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sanqian_old
how do i vote?
i want to choose 2
anonymous_old
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sanqian wrote:

how do i vote?
i want to choose 2
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cgy343528
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object 2 ~ :D
Hanyuu
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Hanyuu
i dont know is this legal?

but i would also support this when osu is started
zagrom_old
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zagrom_old
i dont know is this legal?
I assume you say this because the feature in question is like torrenting, Yes?
Torrents ARE NOT illegal, its the content on them that is. In this case, yes it
would be legal.

I would be fine sharing bandwidth, I would go as far as to say I would share some
off my own website if such a thing could be managed, (Tho limiting that ammout
would be important) We never come anywhere close to what I pay for XD
Might as well try and get the moneys worth, ya?
Hanyuu
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Hanyuu
but the content of this is copyrighted music?
peppy
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Hanyuu wrote:

but the content of this is copyrighted music?
Whilt there may be some copyrighted content on osu!, I don't condone of this and it will be removed should there be complaints from copyright holders. Besides, I'm pretty sure some of the maps you have uploaded are using unlicensed music, so you are adding to the problem if anything.
zagrom_old
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zagrom_old

Hanyuu wrote:

but the content of this is copyrighted music?
Good point, very observant. (brings me to something I have been curious about myself)
Well then the question isn't if using a torrent like system is illegal, its weather
or not Osu! itself is already breaking laws for distributing it music the way it
does as it is now.

I personally have wondered how this was ok, I mean enough people support
and play Osu! I mean its not like a hidden secret that you get the songs mp3
with every download. But hell, you can go to youtube and use audacity to
get a song, that is if not torrenting the entire album already. (I know I do)

so to be nonchalant about it, who cares?
Osu! is a great game ether way.

I honestly can answer your question much better, yes, the music is copyrighted,
but, no offense with this, You are a VERY active Osu! member, this hasn't bothered
you before obviously.

EDIT: Well darn, Peppy beat me to the post XD
complaints from copyright holders
A very valid point I forgot to mention, its up to the coppyright holders to prevent it,
all they gota do is complain and the problem is generally solved.
Hanyuu
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Hanyuu
oh yeah i have not even thought of this lol.
i am all for this idea now
needle666_old
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needle666_old
YES
I would be happy to share even while not playing osu!
loading127
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MiKuNa
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MiKuNa
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peppy
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Pikachu, I choose YOU.
awp
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Pikachu is dead. You haven't fed it in two months.
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