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Poll 3: Sharing your bandwidth

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How do you feel about helping distribute maps you have downloaded?

I would share bandwidth only while osu! is open and active.
89
39.04%
I would be happy to share even while not playing osu! (idle at menu or systray icon).
125
54.82%
I am strongly against sharing my bandwidth.
14
6.14%
Total votes: 228
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CheeseWarlock
Loginer's on to something with the kudosu idea: a minor reward for users who seed. I support this either way, though.
anonymous_old
I like a P2P system, but less-recognized maps will be slower.
Repflez
For me it's ok to share my bandwidth (that's because my pc is on all day) but the problem is that most people runs osu in universities as some guys here stated.
cyanberryio
I wouldn't mind too much. I get every ranked map possible, so I'd be glad to share/seed sometimes. :)
Real1
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awp

Real1 wrote:

Ohh ohh ohh, 1 kudosu per 100mb uploaded!!! Add that!! With a max of, say 10 kudosu per day.
kinda OP for anyone planning to seed to the limit daily. 70 free kd a week?

I don't know if kd is a suitable award, since it's often regarded as a measurement tool to contributions to modding. It'd be in the same vein as buying kudosu!.

Really, I think leaderboards would be enough for those of us who are good-hearted, but because that isn't enough, maybe every 3x GB of (upload - download) nets you a month's subscription where x is perceived value of prescription cost in terms of bandwidth usage (3 is just an example, use whatever constant or additional variable you so desire)

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={
Real1

awp wrote:

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={

Yeah, that's good too. <3
anonymous_old
Announcements in #osu, maybe?

awp has uploaded 10GB in maps! Thanks for your support!
awp
Also, Total Upload achievements, to encourage all the trophy hunters
Kytoxid

awp wrote:

personally I'd be perfectly happy with a leaderboard for seeding ratio; I'd actually have a chance to top a chart ={
Post count? :P
Pokebis
Use more mediafire.
awp

Pokebis wrote:

Use more mediafire.
if people did, there wouldn't be a problem

unless they are forced to do the intelligent thing, they will do the stupid thing
Derekku
I disagree with the kd reward as well, but some kind of "reward" would probably fare well. :P
ttker
I would be happy to share even while not playing osu!
Wojjan
Various countries have an internet cap. If I seed/share/whatefver all my maps then I won't be able to ever see a youtube until a gazillion years in the future. I really don't want this trouble. It's hard enough for me to get by with WGCS right now. If this gets implemented, I want a function to turn it off.
Pokebis
Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
Skyripper

Pokebis wrote:

Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
yeah I would disable this feature if possible (if implemented)
Lybydose

Pokebis wrote:

Just want to throw this out. If a user is distributing an audio file that may be copyrighted they could be sued. I'm pretty sure a large majority of the songs hosted here aren't licensed to be distributed here in the first place. This puts normal users on the spot for distributing copyrighted works. If one user gets heavy traffic their ISP could notice and put penalties on them and copyright owners could sue the user for distributing their works. I feel it would be best not to put the user in that much legal danger.
On that note, it would also be nice to control which songs I want to distribute and which ones I don't. Some of the songs on here carry a much higher chance of legal penalties than others.
bagnz0r

peppy wrote:

It is a fact that I can't keep providing direct downloads for beatmaps to the level I currently am. Donations/subscriptions do not cover the costs of bandwidth. For example, a one month subscription ($4) will provide around 20gb of traffic, which depending on how outgoing the user that subscribed is, may only cover 3-4 users' traffic.

In the near future there will be the introduction of a peer to peer distribution system. It will mean some changes to how beatmaps are downloaded and loaded into osu!. For the purpose of this discussion, let us assume the system works perfectly and speed of downloads will not be affected.

I want to find out how people feel about sharing their bandwidth (outgoing) and how willing they are to help ensure availability of maps. Bandwidth usage will be optimised to have no effect on gameplay, and have a setting for usage when minimised/idle.
I told you that once peppy, why won't you use my server to distribute traffic? It's based in Poland. In fact, i can't provide much...
10GB for holding maps, 150GB mo. traffic and 6Mbps per-user DL cap... But it's always something. Once I'll get enough money to upgrade my server, you could even have 80GB for maps and 600GB mo. traffic.

Besides, speaking of P2P. You mean torrent? Because, that's the only solution for me. If so, that'd be cool. :P
Randy96
Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
Pokebis

Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
RemmyX25

Pokebis wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
There actually are ads. You just cant see them while logged in.
Randy96
Really? Where? I logged off for a bit, but couldn't find them.
(Yeah, I disabled Adblock.)
RemmyX25
First post of every thread.
awp

BagnoGamer wrote:

Once I'll get enough money to upgrade my server, you could even have 80GB for maps and 600GB mo. traffic.
Thing is, I've seen osu! chew through this much bandwidth in a couple days. That was in 2008. Now, it might be possible to eat 600GB bandwidth in an afternoon.
Randy96
I see, but that probably doesn't make too much revenue.
deadbeat
I'd do it in a heartbeat if i could but sadly i can't yet. the speed here can be dam slow and my dad normally needs it for work...if it gets any slower it will become too impossible for him too work..once i get my own place i'll try help out thou :)
Loginer

Pokebis wrote:

Randy96 wrote:

Considering all the issues at hand (bandwidth limits, college/uni stuff, legal implications), you could always resort to *gulp* advertisements.
I thought ads were a good idea from the beginning. I don't understand why peppy doesn't want them. You've got the kind of community that would click them. And those crazy otaku stores love to advertise in places like this. The computer literate people that don't want to see them won't. What's the issue?
I think it's more of a principle thing, since ads can make a webpage look awful, and many of them are animated, which usually annoys the hell out of users. Besides, more ads would only pay for a fraction of the bandwidth used.
Randy96
@Loginer: I suppose it's better than nothing at the least.
Intermezzo
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Skyripper
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Kytoxid

Skyripper wrote:

Well on my campus specifically, they monitor bandwidth usage in general. They tag high upload and download bandwidth activity and monitor those accounts for a few week period. After that they start a more forensic investigation.

I'm admittedly paranoid, and always keep my bandwidth usage to a minimum.
My Internet just gets cut off at 8 GB combined upload/download every week, and a warning gets posted on my door. (although they do also do some scanning for P2P stuff and whatnots)
anonymous_old
P2P is a fantastic idea!undoubtedly, I'll support it!
Jeffro
Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
Randy96

Jeffro wrote:

Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
The thing with this is, some maps might have as many as 20 mirrors, while others might not have any.
The popularity of maps comes into factor if this is implemented.
Jeffro

Randy96 wrote:

Jeffro wrote:

Maybe I can give another suggestion: How about giving users the option of users uploading most of the beatmaps to their own server and be able to add it to the download as a mirror. So people could actually choose where to download those maps.
The thing with this is, some maps might have as many as 20 mirrors, while others might not have any.
The popularity of maps comes into factor if this is implemented.
Still this would be a good option for a whole load of maps or maybe someone could just give peppy full access so he could mirror all maps :)
Randy96
I suppose.
anonymous_old
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Randy96
Perhaps there could be different buttons for different mirrors?

Like [Download] [Download from Mirrors]
[Download] will just be what we have now, and if [Download from Mirrors] is selected, a list will be brought up and the user could choose the preferred mirror.
anonymous_old

Randy96 wrote:

Perhaps there could be different buttons for different mirrors?

Like [Download] [Download from Mirrors]
[Download] will just be what we have now, and if [Download from Mirrors] is selected, a list will be brought up and the user could choose the preferred mirror.
Only power users would use this, I'd imagine, and it'd confuse normal users. The number of power users is too small for a gain, IMO.
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