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Linked Horizon - Jiyuu no Tsubasa (TV Size)
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Did some IRC modding with the mapper, fixed only a few things.
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01:08 Andrea: okay let's see
01:09 Andrea: are you ready?
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah of course
01:09 Andrea: approachcircle.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 126x128).
01:09 Andrea: reversearrow.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 78x58).
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah about that
01:09 YGOkid8: i took those from the new default skin
01:10 YGOkid8: remember? we talked about this lol
01:10 Andrea: both of them?
01:10 YGOkid8: both of them
01:10 YGOkid8: from the thread
01:11 Andrea: I'm not totally sure if that's okay though
01:11 Andrea: not so experienced about skins
01:11 YGOkid8: give me two secs while i dig out the thread
01:11 Andrea: alright~
01:12 YGOkid8: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/129191
01:12 YGOkid8: "These graphics are free for use as a template for sizing and shaping your own skins."
01:12 Andrea: okay then
01:12 Andrea: I'll take your word on this :V
01:13 Andrea: let's start with Easy
01:13 Andrea: OD -1, feels a bit too high imo
01:13 YGOkid8: sure
01:13 Andrea: also so it's balanced with the drain
01:13 Andrea: would work pretty good
01:13 YGOkid8: thinking
01:14 Andrea: 00:48:685 (1,2) - I'd switch the NC to (2) instead, since lyrics restarts there actually
01:14 Andrea: also because of the new pattern
01:14 Andrea: makes much more sense
01:15 Andrea: 00:57:256 (4,1) - NC on (4), delete on next note - lyrics and new section begins on (4), not on (1)
01:15 YGOkid8: reduced od, with the combos
01:15 Andrea: 01:00:875 (1,2) - same as 00:48
01:15 YGOkid8: i consistently change nc's on every x number of white ticks
01:16 Andrea: welp, they feel random to me though :c
01:16 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1) - I suggest you to put this slider a bit more up, since it might be hard to see due to previous hitburst from spinner
01:16 Andrea: and beginners might go "what to hit there"
01:16 Andrea: and stuff
01:17 YGOkid8: doesn't the new hitburst disappear super fast when there's stuff beneath it now?
01:17 Andrea: same as it always been
01:17 Andrea: so it's better to move it up a bit
01:17 Andrea: better caring than not :V
01:19 YGOkid8: better check it out yourself lol
01:19 YGOkid8: it disappears so fast i don't even see it appear in the first place
01:19 Andrea: http://puu.sh/4CHze.jpg btw even AIMod says the same
01:19 Andrea: not only AIBat
01:19 Andrea: like it's an enforced size
01:20 Andrea: btw yeah, but still, it's not suggested to be placed in the center
01:20 YGOkid8: wait
01:20 YGOkid8: what does what AIMod point out have to do with anything?
01:20 Andrea: regarding reversearrow and hitcircle
01:20 Andrea: approachcircle*
01:20 Andrea: like I mentioned before >_<
01:21 YGOkid8: the size?
01:21 Andrea: yup
01:21 Andrea: being incorrect
01:21 YGOkid8: i thought we're good with that now
01:21 Andrea: 128x126, can't understand why it isn't 128x128
01:21 Andrea: oh cool
01:22 YGOkid8: like i linked to the thread and the peppy quote? lol
01:22 Andrea: yeah, but it's your responsability huh :v
01:22 Andrea: I'm just saying things that the editor points me out
01:22 YGOkid8: yeah, hm
01:22 YGOkid8: if i update, are you still able to go straight for rank?
01:23 Andrea: the bubble will be popped if you do
01:23 Andrea: might be better if you upload once we finished whole mod
01:23 YGOkid8: yeah i know, but you can rank if minor changes, right?
01:23 Andrea: sure
01:23 YGOkid8: was wondering if this was minor enough
01:23 Andrea: skin thing?
01:24 Andrea: yep it's nothing too big I guess
01:24 YGOkid8: yeah
01:24 Andrea: you could either fix them or just remove them
01:24 Andrea: people disable skins anyways
01:24 YGOkid8: okay, just lemme switch comps
01:24 YGOkid8: this one is not ideal
01:24 Andrea: sure, I have time anyways, I'll be awake tonight for you
01:24 Andrea: like you did :p
01:26 YGOkid8: anything else while i tinker with the skin
01:27 Andrea: well, the combos bothers me a bit and that slider thingie after spinner
01:27 Andrea: but for easy I have nothing else to say pratically
01:29 YGOkid8: okay, well i want to keep the combos as is for consistency
01:29 YGOkid8: slider thingie i just really like the position
01:29 Andrea: fix that slider at least please >_<
01:29 YGOkid8: but default bursts disappear nowww :<
01:29 Andrea: well fine
but I still dislike it though
01:30 YGOkid8: i did try moving up and down a bit
01:30 YGOkid8: but it makes it look like it's supposed to be in the centre
01:30 YGOkid8: but for some reason derped
01:31 Andrea: keep it then if you think it's better
01:31 YGOkid8: i do ~
01:31 YGOkid8: normal?
01:31 Andrea: yep, let's see
01:31 Andrea: oh
01:31 Andrea: did you change OD on easy?
01:32 YGOkid8: yep, -1
01:32 Andrea: now +1 drain on normal
01:32 Andrea: make them consistent here too ^_^
01:32 Andrea: 223 - 445
01:32 Andrea: AR higher by 1 from HP and OD
01:32 YGOkid8: ergh okay
01:32 YGOkid8: just let me test out a bit
01:33 Andrea: yup
01:33 YGOkid8: yeah i can live with hp drain +1
01:33 Andrea: perfect
01:33 YGOkid8: but just fyi
01:33 YGOkid8: unlikely i'll do the same in hard diffs. up though
01:33 Andrea: we'll see :3
01:33 YGOkid8: OD8 in insane + liberty
01:33 YGOkid8: hp drain 8 = no no
01:34 Andrea: oh no, that's another story
01:34 Andrea: anyways
01:34 Andrea: 00:13:603 (3) - Stack this where (1) start is?
01:34 Andrea: plays better to me
01:35 YGOkid8: the reason i put it where it is now is because of vocals
01:35 YGOkid8: the kampf of the nachsten kampf bit in vocals
01:35 Andrea: alright
01:35 YGOkid8: has that really sharp feel to it
01:35 Andrea: 00:28:875 (2,3) - no, this stack has to go, that's a really bad thing for a Normal
01:36 Andrea: stacks on easy or normal are way too hard for beginners to play
01:36 Andrea: please space them like the rest
01:36 Andrea: same goes for the next stacks
01:36 YGOkid8: but
01:36 YGOkid8: this normal is full of stacks
01:36 Andrea: oh god...
01:36 YGOkid8: well my two things about this
01:37 YGOkid8: 1) i like how they play
01:37 YGOkid8: 2) bridges difficulty from easy-normal-hard better
01:37 Andrea: well, since you have easy as easiest, you're somehow safe
01:37 Andrea: but if Normal was the easiest
01:37 Andrea: I wouldn't let this pass
01:37 YGOkid8: then that's a given, yeah
01:38 Andrea: woah Normal is full of stacks indeed
01:39 YGOkid8: easy with occasional 1/2 rhythms, but never hitting a beat on a 1/2
01:39 Andrea: 00:53:256 (2,3,4) - at least do not stacks 3 objects in a row
01:39 Andrea: you always stacked one object, only this one is two object stacked twice
01:39 Andrea: at least consider this one
01:39 Andrea: one object stacked per time is alright, but two...
01:39 YGOkid8: hm
01:39 Andrea: space (2) and (3) normally
01:39 Andrea: then stack (4) on (3)'s end
01:40 Andrea: :-)
01:40 Andrea: fix spacing etc.
01:40 YGOkid8: there's a reason i don't space normally
01:40 YGOkid8: and it's because it looks omg ugly
01:40 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CIwK.jpg
01:40 YGOkid8: that touching
01:40 Andrea: you don't like it, I guess?
01:41 YGOkid8: very don't like
01:41 Andrea: kk
01:41 Andrea: well, this diff is stacks mania
01:41 Andrea: nothing I can say ;~;
01:41 Andrea: but I don't like it tbh :c
01:41 Andrea: Easy was cool
01:42 Andrea: but I dislike stacked Normal...
01:42 Andrea: though it's your style
01:42 Andrea: so I can't say anything
01:42 YGOkid8: mm, well again
01:42 YGOkid8: 1) i like
01:42 YGOkid8: 2) difficulty spread
01:42 Andrea: yup, I got your reasoning
01:42 Andrea: I understood
01:42 YGOkid8: :>
01:43 Andrea: though you're so damn stubborn mapper xD
01:43 YGOkid8: lol yep
01:43 Andrea: it's hard to make you fix stuff :p
01:43 YGOkid8: because everything has been thought out very carefully
01:43 Andrea: I'll jump on Hard difficulty
01:43 Andrea: yeah I noticed
01:43 Andrea: hp +1 on hard please
01:43 Andrea: 5 is waaaay too low
01:43 Andrea: like seriously <.<
01:43 YGOkid8: pssh
01:43 YGOkid8: testing
01:44 Andrea: okay
01:46 Andrea: is it fine?
01:46 YGOkid8: not sure if i can agree here
01:46 YGOkid8: take the intro for example
01:46 YGOkid8: if you miss like 2 beats
01:46 YGOkid8: it takes a big chunk out of your hp
01:46 YGOkid8: and doesn't really go back up that much
01:46 Andrea: you can keep it if you think it's too much, but this is a Hard remember
01:46 Andrea: don't be too gentle with players
01:47 YGOkid8: yeah just let me test a bit more
01:47 Andrea: sure
01:47 Andrea: I'll continue with modding when you're done
01:47 YGOkid8: nah feel free to point out stuff
01:47 YGOkid8: save time
01:47 Andrea: okay then
01:48 Andrea: 00:38:780 (3) - this slider with so many repeats somehow feels boring to me
01:48 Andrea: though I have no idea in what you could change it
01:48 Andrea: 00:39:542 (1,2,3) - can you explain me why spacing isn't consistent here? it looks somehow bad
01:48 Andrea: 00:42:590 (1,2,3) - ^
01:49 Andrea: 00:43:542 (1) - this overlap with the previous circle it's not so nice to see imo ;~; you stacked them before while here you didn't - make it consistent perhaps?
01:49 YGOkid8: okay with the first (3) slider, it has that many repeats for 2 reasons
01:49 YGOkid8: 1) vocal hold
01:50 YGOkid8: 2) it gets harder as you progress to insane / liberty
01:50 YGOkid8: i split it up in liberty
01:50 Andrea: fair enough
01:50 YGOkid8: for the inconsistent spacing, i felt that having it just same distance was too bland
01:50 YGOkid8: music here is very jerky in nature
01:50 Andrea: yup, intense and stuff
01:51 YGOkid8: if it's all the same, it smoothes it out, if that makes sense
01:51 YGOkid8: so increasing / decreasing spacing for that jerkiness
01:51 YGOkid8: i do it in insane / liberty too
01:51 Andrea: got your idea, yup
01:52 YGOkid8: with the overlap, well i just liked the feel
01:52 Andrea: kk
01:53 Andrea: 00:47:161 (1,2,3) - c'mon man, this spacing is way too inconsistent D: it doesn't really flow well either
01:53 Andrea: move (2) down a bit so it flows and plays better
01:53 YGOkid8: it is consistent though xD
01:53 Andrea: though I noticed you did the same later too
01:53 Andrea: >_>"
01:53 YGOkid8: 00:45:637 (1,2) - 1.5x spacing
01:54 YGOkid8: i do 1.5 on the emphasis parts, then 1.25x on the non ones
01:54 Andrea: ah okay
01:54 Andrea: damn you think so much xD
01:54 YGOkid8: 00:49:256 (3,4,5) - only exception, because 1.25 doesn't look or feel very nice
01:54 YGOkid8: yeah of course ;D
01:54 YGOkid8: btw in the end, i can't agree with hp drain +1
01:55 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4) - hmm, could you respace this pattern so (4) ends on the center?
01:55 YGOkid8: like i know it's hard and i can't be too easy on them
01:55 Andrea: would be cooler imo ^^
01:55 Andrea: and sure
01:55 YGOkid8: but once you miss, you have to hit pretty darn accurate so that you don't die
01:55 Andrea: mine are just suggestions
01:55 Andrea: check my last suggestion please :3
01:55 YGOkid8: the 1234 one?
01:55 Andrea: yup
01:55 Andrea: respace it so it's centered
01:56 Andrea: so you can spin in an awesome way~
01:56 YGOkid8: in between 2 and 3 i suppose you mean?
01:56 YGOkid8: or like middle of screen
01:56 Andrea: let me show you an example
01:56 YGOkid8: okay
01:56 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008335
01:56 Andrea: same pattern as yours, just respaced so it ends on the center
01:57 YGOkid8: o right
01:57 Andrea: ;3
01:57 Andrea: if you won't fix this I give up
01:57 YGOkid8: lmao, just lemme think
01:57 Andrea: sure
01:57 YGOkid8: cause i thought of something else, but if i apply here, i'll have to apply to insane and liberty as well
01:57 Andrea: why not
01:58 Andrea: ending last circle on center and then spinning is amazing <3
01:58 Andrea: anyways, think about it and let me know
01:59 YGOkid8: yeah i can agree with this
01:59 Andrea: yaaay~
01:59 YGOkid8: 01:11:161 (3,1) - some reason, distance spacing stays the same
01:59 YGOkid8: so i'm cool
01:59 Andrea: ~
01:59 YGOkid8: it for this diff?
02:00 Andrea: that's all
02:00 Andrea: Insane let's go?
02:00 YGOkid8: okai
02:00 YGOkid8: yeah
02:00 Andrea: Insane HP7
02:00 Andrea: Hard HP5
02:00 Andrea: I somehow dislike this big jump
02:01 YGOkid8: well to be fair
02:01 YGOkid8: easy hp 2, normal hp 4, hard hp 5 then insane hp 7
02:01 YGOkid8: there's gonna be a jump regardless
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 8 would be cooler tho
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 7*
02:02 Andrea: my bad
02:02 Andrea: right now you have 2 4 5 7 7
02:04 Andrea: 4 and 5 are so close - Normal and Hard are totally two different things imo!
02:06 YGOkid8: sorry, mum didn't know i was awake lol
02:06 YGOkid8: so she turned off the internet
02:06 Andrea: angry mom? xD
02:06 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CJzA.png - in case you didn't see
02:06 YGOkid8: nah lol
02:06 Andrea: ok I didn't got it before
02:06 Andrea: can I continue my mod?
02:07 YGOkid8: go for it
02:07 Andrea: 00:24:107 (8) - why isn't there a slider but circle?
02:07 Andrea: you used sliders all the way on last note of triplets!
02:07 Andrea: 00:23:343 (4) - ^
02:07 Andrea: etc.
02:07 Andrea: make it consistent?
02:07 YGOkid8: oh andrea, trying to catch me out on some consistency issue
02:08 YGOkid8: 00:24:298 (9) - change in vocals
02:08 YGOkid8: up to this point it was always on white ticks 2 and 4
02:08 YGOkid8: but then it made the switch to 1
02:08 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008356
02:08 Andrea: make it like this then
02:08 Andrea: plays better imo
02:08 YGOkid8: the hitcircle is there because 1) plays better 2) signify change
02:08 Andrea: triangle formation :3
02:09 Andrea: I don't like your current formation
02:09 Andrea: in a short word, move (9) some grids to the left
02:09 Andrea: pretty please? <3
02:09 YGOkid8: up to this point for this section, i don't use perfect triangle formations anywhere
02:09 Andrea: boooo :<
02:09 YGOkid8: so it'd suddenly look weird to have a perfect triangle
02:09 Andrea: you make me sad ;~;
02:10 Andrea: alright alright~
02:10 YGOkid8: lol sorry
02:10 Andrea: 00:33:732 (3) - that might be just me but...
02:10 Andrea: ...this slider looks ugly to me D:
02:11 YGOkid8: i'll admit it's not the prettiest
02:11 YGOkid8: but i do like the flow of it
02:11 Andrea: make it less curved maybe?
02:11 Andrea: on both sides
02:11 YGOkid8: i did try that, but the thing is
02:11 YGOkid8: i need that big a curve lol
02:12 Andrea: hmm k
02:12 YGOkid8: the path
02:12 Andrea: 00:48:304 (4,5) - change these two circles in a slider?
02:12 Andrea: 00:49:256 (3) - perhaps like that
02:12 YGOkid8: 00:46:780 (5) - vs 00:48:304 (4,5) -
02:12 YGOkid8: small differences in vocals
02:12 YGOkid8: mapping them the same = no no
02:12 Andrea: damn you have a fast answer for everything
02:13 Andrea: you're making me feel useless :c
02:13 YGOkid8: lol aw you shouldn't feel useless
02:13 YGOkid8: i've just, as you know, thought things out very thoroughly
02:13 Andrea: yeah ;_;
02:13 Andrea: 01:09:066 (5,6) - this antijump feels too close
02:14 Andrea: make distance of (6) same from (5) and (7)?
02:14 Andrea: let me show you a picture
02:14 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008363 ?
02:14 Andrea: your flow will be good too like this
02:14 Andrea: and spacing consistent
02:14 Andrea: both things \:D/
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1,2) -
02:15 YGOkid8: same spacing as here
02:15 Andrea: @.@
02:15 YGOkid8: selected wrong notes, sec
02:15 Andrea: I thought so
02:15 YGOkid8: heck you get the idea
02:15 Andrea: I was like... wut?
02:15 Andrea: yeah I did
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1) -
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:875 (2) - this is special to this section
02:15 YGOkid8: since the chorus doesn't have it
02:16 YGOkid8: that's why in the chorus, it has a less intense jump there
02:16 Andrea: 01:09:828 (7) - make the NC start here?
02:16 Andrea: and not on (1)
02:17 YGOkid8: again, it's how i've combo'd my whole map :/
02:17 Andrea: I hate you QAQ
02:17 Andrea: xD
02:17 YGOkid8: and i really am a nc on big white tick guy
02:17 YGOkid8: lol hey, you got me to move a formation in hard
02:17 YGOkid8: that's pretty impressive
02:17 Andrea: haha
02:17 Andrea: did you do same on Insane already?
02:17 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
02:18 YGOkid8: nah, i like this one as it is
02:18 Andrea: alright
02:18 Andrea: 01:25:828 (4) - shouldn't the new combo be here btw?
02:18 Andrea: and not on next circle
02:18 Andrea: the triangle pattern begins here, also rhythm changes here
02:18 YGOkid8: spacing change is on the next circle
02:19 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1,2,3) - on Hard you did like this though
02:19 Andrea: 3 notes triangled
02:19 Andrea: why not the same here?
02:20 YGOkid8: it's the jerkiness thing i mentioned earlier
02:20 YGOkid8: if i did different spacing in hard
02:20 YGOkid8: it just looks very messy
02:20 Andrea: indeed lol
02:20 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to point on Insane
02:20 Andrea: let's go to.... well...... Liberty diff
02:20 YGOkid8: (y)
02:21 YGOkid8: yeah
02:21 YGOkid8: you will have much trouble convincing me of rhythm changes here lol
02:21 Andrea: 00:13:603 (1) - why single combo here?
02:21 Andrea: you didn't used any single combo on other diffs
02:22 YGOkid8: yep, but that's because in the other diffs.
02:22 YGOkid8: i nc'd every 8 white ticks
02:22 YGOkid8: here i nc every 4
02:22 YGOkid8: or every big white one
02:22 Andrea: 00:24:298 (1) - ^ same here I guess?
02:22 YGOkid8: yeah
02:23 YGOkid8: 00:26:780 (1) - nc here is for jump + long ass stream
02:24 Andrea: I see
02:24 Andrea: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - I still think this is too large
02:25 Andrea: and too cruel
02:25 Andrea: let me provide you an example
02:25 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008376
02:25 Andrea: 1,80x maybe?
02:25 Andrea: also look how I made it
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:256 (1,5) - music have big emphasis on these two
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - less jerky movement here = less emphasis
02:27 YGOkid8: 01:25:637 (4,5) - hence nice jerk here
02:28 Andrea: in a short word you want to keep it like that?
02:28 YGOkid8: pretty much
02:28 YGOkid8: wasn't exactly easy changin that square i had to this
02:29 YGOkid8: and i'm quite happy with how this turned out as well
02:29 Andrea: hm, I see
02:29 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to say
02:29 Andrea: hey, I tried a lot though.
02:29 Andrea: hope you appreciated
02:30 YGOkid8: of course, i always appreciate
02:30 Andrea: but it's really hard to make you change stuff :V
02:30 Andrea: in a short word what are you going to change?
02:30 Andrea: od on easy, hp on normal, skin files, pattern on hard
02:30 Andrea: what else?
02:30 YGOkid8: hm
02:31 YGOkid8: that's it
02:31 YGOkid8: lol
02:31 Andrea: hey I made you change 4 things
02:31 Andrea: I'm the best.
02:31 Andrea: I can feel proud of myself
01:09 Andrea: are you ready?
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah of course
01:09 Andrea: approachcircle.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 126x128).
01:09 Andrea: reversearrow.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 78x58).
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah about that
01:09 YGOkid8: i took those from the new default skin
01:10 YGOkid8: remember? we talked about this lol
01:10 Andrea: both of them?
01:10 YGOkid8: both of them
01:10 YGOkid8: from the thread
01:11 Andrea: I'm not totally sure if that's okay though
01:11 Andrea: not so experienced about skins
01:11 YGOkid8: give me two secs while i dig out the thread
01:11 Andrea: alright~
01:12 YGOkid8: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/129191
01:12 YGOkid8: "These graphics are free for use as a template for sizing and shaping your own skins."
01:12 Andrea: okay then
01:12 Andrea: I'll take your word on this :V
01:13 Andrea: let's start with Easy
01:13 Andrea: OD -1, feels a bit too high imo
01:13 YGOkid8: sure
01:13 Andrea: also so it's balanced with the drain
01:13 Andrea: would work pretty good
01:13 YGOkid8: thinking
01:14 Andrea: 00:48:685 (1,2) - I'd switch the NC to (2) instead, since lyrics restarts there actually
01:14 Andrea: also because of the new pattern
01:14 Andrea: makes much more sense
01:15 Andrea: 00:57:256 (4,1) - NC on (4), delete on next note - lyrics and new section begins on (4), not on (1)
01:15 YGOkid8: reduced od, with the combos
01:15 Andrea: 01:00:875 (1,2) - same as 00:48
01:15 YGOkid8: i consistently change nc's on every x number of white ticks
01:16 Andrea: welp, they feel random to me though :c
01:16 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1) - I suggest you to put this slider a bit more up, since it might be hard to see due to previous hitburst from spinner
01:16 Andrea: and beginners might go "what to hit there"
01:16 Andrea: and stuff
01:17 YGOkid8: doesn't the new hitburst disappear super fast when there's stuff beneath it now?
01:17 Andrea: same as it always been
01:17 Andrea: so it's better to move it up a bit
01:17 Andrea: better caring than not :V
01:19 YGOkid8: better check it out yourself lol
01:19 YGOkid8: it disappears so fast i don't even see it appear in the first place
01:19 Andrea: http://puu.sh/4CHze.jpg btw even AIMod says the same
01:19 Andrea: not only AIBat
01:19 Andrea: like it's an enforced size
01:20 Andrea: btw yeah, but still, it's not suggested to be placed in the center
01:20 YGOkid8: wait
01:20 YGOkid8: what does what AIMod point out have to do with anything?
01:20 Andrea: regarding reversearrow and hitcircle
01:20 Andrea: approachcircle*
01:20 Andrea: like I mentioned before >_<
01:21 YGOkid8: the size?
01:21 Andrea: yup
01:21 Andrea: being incorrect
01:21 YGOkid8: i thought we're good with that now
01:21 Andrea: 128x126, can't understand why it isn't 128x128
01:21 Andrea: oh cool
01:22 YGOkid8: like i linked to the thread and the peppy quote? lol
01:22 Andrea: yeah, but it's your responsability huh :v
01:22 Andrea: I'm just saying things that the editor points me out
01:22 YGOkid8: yeah, hm
01:22 YGOkid8: if i update, are you still able to go straight for rank?
01:23 Andrea: the bubble will be popped if you do
01:23 Andrea: might be better if you upload once we finished whole mod
01:23 YGOkid8: yeah i know, but you can rank if minor changes, right?
01:23 Andrea: sure
01:23 YGOkid8: was wondering if this was minor enough
01:23 Andrea: skin thing?
01:24 Andrea: yep it's nothing too big I guess
01:24 YGOkid8: yeah
01:24 Andrea: you could either fix them or just remove them
01:24 Andrea: people disable skins anyways
01:24 YGOkid8: okay, just lemme switch comps
01:24 YGOkid8: this one is not ideal
01:24 Andrea: sure, I have time anyways, I'll be awake tonight for you
01:24 Andrea: like you did :p
01:26 YGOkid8: anything else while i tinker with the skin
01:27 Andrea: well, the combos bothers me a bit and that slider thingie after spinner
01:27 Andrea: but for easy I have nothing else to say pratically
01:29 YGOkid8: okay, well i want to keep the combos as is for consistency
01:29 YGOkid8: slider thingie i just really like the position
01:29 Andrea: fix that slider at least please >_<
01:29 YGOkid8: but default bursts disappear nowww :<
01:29 Andrea: well fine
but I still dislike it though01:30 YGOkid8: i did try moving up and down a bit
01:30 YGOkid8: but it makes it look like it's supposed to be in the centre
01:30 YGOkid8: but for some reason derped
01:31 Andrea: keep it then if you think it's better
01:31 YGOkid8: i do ~
01:31 YGOkid8: normal?
01:31 Andrea: yep, let's see
01:31 Andrea: oh
01:31 Andrea: did you change OD on easy?
01:32 YGOkid8: yep, -1
01:32 Andrea: now +1 drain on normal
01:32 Andrea: make them consistent here too ^_^
01:32 Andrea: 223 - 445
01:32 Andrea: AR higher by 1 from HP and OD
01:32 YGOkid8: ergh okay
01:32 YGOkid8: just let me test out a bit
01:33 Andrea: yup
01:33 YGOkid8: yeah i can live with hp drain +1
01:33 Andrea: perfect
01:33 YGOkid8: but just fyi
01:33 YGOkid8: unlikely i'll do the same in hard diffs. up though
01:33 Andrea: we'll see :3
01:33 YGOkid8: OD8 in insane + liberty
01:33 YGOkid8: hp drain 8 = no no
01:34 Andrea: oh no, that's another story
01:34 Andrea: anyways
01:34 Andrea: 00:13:603 (3) - Stack this where (1) start is?
01:34 Andrea: plays better to me
01:35 YGOkid8: the reason i put it where it is now is because of vocals
01:35 YGOkid8: the kampf of the nachsten kampf bit in vocals
01:35 Andrea: alright
01:35 YGOkid8: has that really sharp feel to it
01:35 Andrea: 00:28:875 (2,3) - no, this stack has to go, that's a really bad thing for a Normal
01:36 Andrea: stacks on easy or normal are way too hard for beginners to play
01:36 Andrea: please space them like the rest
01:36 Andrea: same goes for the next stacks
01:36 YGOkid8: but
01:36 YGOkid8: this normal is full of stacks
01:36 Andrea: oh god...
01:36 YGOkid8: well my two things about this
01:37 YGOkid8: 1) i like how they play
01:37 YGOkid8: 2) bridges difficulty from easy-normal-hard better
01:37 Andrea: well, since you have easy as easiest, you're somehow safe
01:37 Andrea: but if Normal was the easiest
01:37 Andrea: I wouldn't let this pass
01:37 YGOkid8: then that's a given, yeah
01:38 Andrea: woah Normal is full of stacks indeed
01:39 YGOkid8: easy with occasional 1/2 rhythms, but never hitting a beat on a 1/2
01:39 Andrea: 00:53:256 (2,3,4) - at least do not stacks 3 objects in a row
01:39 Andrea: you always stacked one object, only this one is two object stacked twice
01:39 Andrea: at least consider this one
01:39 Andrea: one object stacked per time is alright, but two...
01:39 YGOkid8: hm
01:39 Andrea: space (2) and (3) normally
01:39 Andrea: then stack (4) on (3)'s end
01:40 Andrea: :-)
01:40 Andrea: fix spacing etc.
01:40 YGOkid8: there's a reason i don't space normally
01:40 YGOkid8: and it's because it looks omg ugly
01:40 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CIwK.jpg
01:40 YGOkid8: that touching
01:40 Andrea: you don't like it, I guess?
01:41 YGOkid8: very don't like
01:41 Andrea: kk
01:41 Andrea: well, this diff is stacks mania
01:41 Andrea: nothing I can say ;~;
01:41 Andrea: but I don't like it tbh :c
01:41 Andrea: Easy was cool
01:42 Andrea: but I dislike stacked Normal...
01:42 Andrea: though it's your style
01:42 Andrea: so I can't say anything
01:42 YGOkid8: mm, well again
01:42 YGOkid8: 1) i like
01:42 YGOkid8: 2) difficulty spread
01:42 Andrea: yup, I got your reasoning
01:42 Andrea: I understood
01:42 YGOkid8: :>
01:43 Andrea: though you're so damn stubborn mapper xD
01:43 YGOkid8: lol yep
01:43 Andrea: it's hard to make you fix stuff :p
01:43 YGOkid8: because everything has been thought out very carefully
01:43 Andrea: I'll jump on Hard difficulty
01:43 Andrea: yeah I noticed
01:43 Andrea: hp +1 on hard please
01:43 Andrea: 5 is waaaay too low
01:43 Andrea: like seriously <.<
01:43 YGOkid8: pssh
01:43 YGOkid8: testing
01:44 Andrea: okay
01:46 Andrea: is it fine?
01:46 YGOkid8: not sure if i can agree here
01:46 YGOkid8: take the intro for example
01:46 YGOkid8: if you miss like 2 beats
01:46 YGOkid8: it takes a big chunk out of your hp
01:46 YGOkid8: and doesn't really go back up that much
01:46 Andrea: you can keep it if you think it's too much, but this is a Hard remember
01:46 Andrea: don't be too gentle with players
01:47 YGOkid8: yeah just let me test a bit more
01:47 Andrea: sure
01:47 Andrea: I'll continue with modding when you're done
01:47 YGOkid8: nah feel free to point out stuff
01:47 YGOkid8: save time
01:47 Andrea: okay then
01:48 Andrea: 00:38:780 (3) - this slider with so many repeats somehow feels boring to me
01:48 Andrea: though I have no idea in what you could change it
01:48 Andrea: 00:39:542 (1,2,3) - can you explain me why spacing isn't consistent here? it looks somehow bad
01:48 Andrea: 00:42:590 (1,2,3) - ^
01:49 Andrea: 00:43:542 (1) - this overlap with the previous circle it's not so nice to see imo ;~; you stacked them before while here you didn't - make it consistent perhaps?
01:49 YGOkid8: okay with the first (3) slider, it has that many repeats for 2 reasons
01:49 YGOkid8: 1) vocal hold
01:50 YGOkid8: 2) it gets harder as you progress to insane / liberty
01:50 YGOkid8: i split it up in liberty
01:50 Andrea: fair enough
01:50 YGOkid8: for the inconsistent spacing, i felt that having it just same distance was too bland
01:50 YGOkid8: music here is very jerky in nature
01:50 Andrea: yup, intense and stuff
01:51 YGOkid8: if it's all the same, it smoothes it out, if that makes sense
01:51 YGOkid8: so increasing / decreasing spacing for that jerkiness
01:51 YGOkid8: i do it in insane / liberty too
01:51 Andrea: got your idea, yup
01:52 YGOkid8: with the overlap, well i just liked the feel
01:52 Andrea: kk
01:53 Andrea: 00:47:161 (1,2,3) - c'mon man, this spacing is way too inconsistent D: it doesn't really flow well either
01:53 Andrea: move (2) down a bit so it flows and plays better
01:53 YGOkid8: it is consistent though xD
01:53 Andrea: though I noticed you did the same later too
01:53 Andrea: >_>"
01:53 YGOkid8: 00:45:637 (1,2) - 1.5x spacing
01:54 YGOkid8: i do 1.5 on the emphasis parts, then 1.25x on the non ones
01:54 Andrea: ah okay
01:54 Andrea: damn you think so much xD
01:54 YGOkid8: 00:49:256 (3,4,5) - only exception, because 1.25 doesn't look or feel very nice
01:54 YGOkid8: yeah of course ;D
01:54 YGOkid8: btw in the end, i can't agree with hp drain +1
01:55 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4) - hmm, could you respace this pattern so (4) ends on the center?
01:55 YGOkid8: like i know it's hard and i can't be too easy on them
01:55 Andrea: would be cooler imo ^^
01:55 Andrea: and sure
01:55 YGOkid8: but once you miss, you have to hit pretty darn accurate so that you don't die
01:55 Andrea: mine are just suggestions
01:55 Andrea: check my last suggestion please :3
01:55 YGOkid8: the 1234 one?
01:55 Andrea: yup
01:55 Andrea: respace it so it's centered
01:56 Andrea: so you can spin in an awesome way~
01:56 YGOkid8: in between 2 and 3 i suppose you mean?
01:56 YGOkid8: or like middle of screen
01:56 Andrea: let me show you an example
01:56 YGOkid8: okay
01:56 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008335
01:56 Andrea: same pattern as yours, just respaced so it ends on the center
01:57 YGOkid8: o right
01:57 Andrea: ;3
01:57 Andrea: if you won't fix this I give up
01:57 YGOkid8: lmao, just lemme think
01:57 Andrea: sure
01:57 YGOkid8: cause i thought of something else, but if i apply here, i'll have to apply to insane and liberty as well
01:57 Andrea: why not
01:58 Andrea: ending last circle on center and then spinning is amazing <3
01:58 Andrea: anyways, think about it and let me know
01:59 YGOkid8: yeah i can agree with this
01:59 Andrea: yaaay~
01:59 YGOkid8: 01:11:161 (3,1) - some reason, distance spacing stays the same
01:59 YGOkid8: so i'm cool
01:59 Andrea: ~
01:59 YGOkid8: it for this diff?
02:00 Andrea: that's all
02:00 Andrea: Insane let's go?
02:00 YGOkid8: okai
02:00 YGOkid8: yeah
02:00 Andrea: Insane HP7
02:00 Andrea: Hard HP5
02:00 Andrea: I somehow dislike this big jump
02:01 YGOkid8: well to be fair
02:01 YGOkid8: easy hp 2, normal hp 4, hard hp 5 then insane hp 7
02:01 YGOkid8: there's gonna be a jump regardless
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 8 would be cooler tho
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 7*
02:02 Andrea: my bad
02:02 Andrea: right now you have 2 4 5 7 7
02:04 Andrea: 4 and 5 are so close - Normal and Hard are totally two different things imo!
02:06 YGOkid8: sorry, mum didn't know i was awake lol
02:06 YGOkid8: so she turned off the internet
02:06 Andrea: angry mom? xD
02:06 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CJzA.png - in case you didn't see
02:06 YGOkid8: nah lol
02:06 Andrea: ok I didn't got it before
02:06 Andrea: can I continue my mod?
02:07 YGOkid8: go for it
02:07 Andrea: 00:24:107 (8) - why isn't there a slider but circle?
02:07 Andrea: you used sliders all the way on last note of triplets!
02:07 Andrea: 00:23:343 (4) - ^
02:07 Andrea: etc.
02:07 Andrea: make it consistent?
02:07 YGOkid8: oh andrea, trying to catch me out on some consistency issue
02:08 YGOkid8: 00:24:298 (9) - change in vocals
02:08 YGOkid8: up to this point it was always on white ticks 2 and 4
02:08 YGOkid8: but then it made the switch to 1
02:08 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008356
02:08 Andrea: make it like this then
02:08 Andrea: plays better imo
02:08 YGOkid8: the hitcircle is there because 1) plays better 2) signify change
02:08 Andrea: triangle formation :3
02:09 Andrea: I don't like your current formation
02:09 Andrea: in a short word, move (9) some grids to the left
02:09 Andrea: pretty please? <3
02:09 YGOkid8: up to this point for this section, i don't use perfect triangle formations anywhere
02:09 Andrea: boooo :<
02:09 YGOkid8: so it'd suddenly look weird to have a perfect triangle
02:09 Andrea: you make me sad ;~;
02:10 Andrea: alright alright~
02:10 YGOkid8: lol sorry
02:10 Andrea: 00:33:732 (3) - that might be just me but...
02:10 Andrea: ...this slider looks ugly to me D:
02:11 YGOkid8: i'll admit it's not the prettiest
02:11 YGOkid8: but i do like the flow of it
02:11 Andrea: make it less curved maybe?
02:11 Andrea: on both sides
02:11 YGOkid8: i did try that, but the thing is
02:11 YGOkid8: i need that big a curve lol
02:12 Andrea: hmm k
02:12 YGOkid8: the path
02:12 Andrea: 00:48:304 (4,5) - change these two circles in a slider?
02:12 Andrea: 00:49:256 (3) - perhaps like that
02:12 YGOkid8: 00:46:780 (5) - vs 00:48:304 (4,5) -
02:12 YGOkid8: small differences in vocals
02:12 YGOkid8: mapping them the same = no no
02:12 Andrea: damn you have a fast answer for everything
02:13 Andrea: you're making me feel useless :c
02:13 YGOkid8: lol aw you shouldn't feel useless
02:13 YGOkid8: i've just, as you know, thought things out very thoroughly
02:13 Andrea: yeah ;_;
02:13 Andrea: 01:09:066 (5,6) - this antijump feels too close
02:14 Andrea: make distance of (6) same from (5) and (7)?
02:14 Andrea: let me show you a picture
02:14 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008363 ?
02:14 Andrea: your flow will be good too like this
02:14 Andrea: and spacing consistent
02:14 Andrea: both things \:D/
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1,2) -
02:15 YGOkid8: same spacing as here
02:15 Andrea: @.@
02:15 YGOkid8: selected wrong notes, sec
02:15 Andrea: I thought so
02:15 YGOkid8: heck you get the idea
02:15 Andrea: I was like... wut?
02:15 Andrea: yeah I did
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1) -
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:875 (2) - this is special to this section
02:15 YGOkid8: since the chorus doesn't have it
02:16 YGOkid8: that's why in the chorus, it has a less intense jump there
02:16 Andrea: 01:09:828 (7) - make the NC start here?
02:16 Andrea: and not on (1)
02:17 YGOkid8: again, it's how i've combo'd my whole map :/
02:17 Andrea: I hate you QAQ
02:17 Andrea: xD
02:17 YGOkid8: and i really am a nc on big white tick guy
02:17 YGOkid8: lol hey, you got me to move a formation in hard
02:17 YGOkid8: that's pretty impressive
02:17 Andrea: haha
02:17 Andrea: did you do same on Insane already?
02:17 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
02:18 YGOkid8: nah, i like this one as it is
02:18 Andrea: alright
02:18 Andrea: 01:25:828 (4) - shouldn't the new combo be here btw?
02:18 Andrea: and not on next circle
02:18 Andrea: the triangle pattern begins here, also rhythm changes here
02:18 YGOkid8: spacing change is on the next circle
02:19 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1,2,3) - on Hard you did like this though
02:19 Andrea: 3 notes triangled
02:19 Andrea: why not the same here?
02:20 YGOkid8: it's the jerkiness thing i mentioned earlier
02:20 YGOkid8: if i did different spacing in hard
02:20 YGOkid8: it just looks very messy
02:20 Andrea: indeed lol
02:20 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to point on Insane
02:20 Andrea: let's go to.... well...... Liberty diff
02:20 YGOkid8: (y)
02:21 YGOkid8: yeah
02:21 YGOkid8: you will have much trouble convincing me of rhythm changes here lol
02:21 Andrea: 00:13:603 (1) - why single combo here?
02:21 Andrea: you didn't used any single combo on other diffs
02:22 YGOkid8: yep, but that's because in the other diffs.
02:22 YGOkid8: i nc'd every 8 white ticks
02:22 YGOkid8: here i nc every 4
02:22 YGOkid8: or every big white one
02:22 Andrea: 00:24:298 (1) - ^ same here I guess?
02:22 YGOkid8: yeah
02:23 YGOkid8: 00:26:780 (1) - nc here is for jump + long ass stream
02:24 Andrea: I see
02:24 Andrea: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - I still think this is too large
02:25 Andrea: and too cruel
02:25 Andrea: let me provide you an example
02:25 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008376
02:25 Andrea: 1,80x maybe?
02:25 Andrea: also look how I made it
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:256 (1,5) - music have big emphasis on these two
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - less jerky movement here = less emphasis
02:27 YGOkid8: 01:25:637 (4,5) - hence nice jerk here
02:28 Andrea: in a short word you want to keep it like that?
02:28 YGOkid8: pretty much
02:28 YGOkid8: wasn't exactly easy changin that square i had to this
02:29 YGOkid8: and i'm quite happy with how this turned out as well
02:29 Andrea: hm, I see
02:29 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to say
02:29 Andrea: hey, I tried a lot though.
02:29 Andrea: hope you appreciated
02:30 YGOkid8: of course, i always appreciate
02:30 Andrea: but it's really hard to make you change stuff :V
02:30 Andrea: in a short word what are you going to change?
02:30 Andrea: od on easy, hp on normal, skin files, pattern on hard
02:30 Andrea: what else?
02:30 YGOkid8: hm
02:31 YGOkid8: that's it
02:31 YGOkid8: lol
02:31 Andrea: hey I made you change 4 things
02:31 Andrea: I'm the best.
02:31 Andrea: I can feel proud of myself
Topic Starter
did tiny, minute changes, which are:
- Reduce Easy OD by 1.
- Increase Normal HP Drain by 1.
- Small movement shift in Hard.
- Tinkering with approachcircle.png and reversearrow.png to avoid possible trouble.
Posted before ranked post :v
Okay, it's time to attack the titans now!
Ranked~
Ranked~
congratz :3
Gratz!! Kid....-chan
Best JnT~
Congrats!
Congrats!
Grats!
A nice job!
RAAAAAAAAANKEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU ^^
Congraaatz ^.^
Congraaatz ^.^
Gratz!!! YGOkid8!
Welcome to BAT!
Welcome to BAT!
Finally ranked :3
What a nice map, congrats <:
Still no Freiheit ;_;
Still no Freiheit ;_;
graaatz
Graz
oops, I was expected to give this map a bubble.
congrats on the rank
congrats on the rank
Topic Starter
ignorethis! you are waay too late xD
Gratz YGO!
Kyojin fever too strong.
Kyojin fever too strong.