This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 12:50:29 AM

Artist: Naoto Ishida/Yumiko Kametani
Title: Big Blue
Source: F-Zero
Tags: F-Zero SNES Captain Falcon Matma Rex Loogiesquared Blue Dragon
BPM: 220
Filesize: 2474kb
Play Time: 01:36
Difficulties Available:

1. 1st Place (4.99 stars, 225 notes)
2. 2nd Place (4.91 stars, 224 notes)
3. 3rd Place (4.48 stars, 203 notes)
4. Loogie vs. BlueDragon (4.42 stars, 176 notes)
5. Matma's Catching Up (3.52 stars, 121 notes)
6. MB & Kyto Co-Op (4.95 stars, 291 notes)

Download: Naoto Ishida/Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is my second Map.

please comment


i know my hitsounds are kinda bad and part of map (near the middle i think) has strange organization, but please give me specifics to change.

6/26, 8:20PM: Finished 2nd Place, please redownload
11/15, 8:41PM: Finished 3rd Place, please redownload
11/17 3:15PM: Added Matma's difficulty, please redownload
11/18 6:28PM: Added Loogie/Dragon's difficulty, please redownload
11/30 6:30PM: added MB/Kytoxid's difficulty, please redownload

12/3 9:40PM: renamed artists, please redownload
1/6 4:32PM: resized BG, please redownload

[1st Place]
Some overall stuff first. The slow sliders are confusing when you have all the fast beats. And just because it follows the tempo doesn't mean it works in the song, I mean beats that don't follow music, can work sometimes, but won't work all the time. Now, some details.
00:09:31 (4) - That trips me up, the first 3 in the combo are fine but I hate this one.
The break is kinda long IMO.


There are a bunch of things that I probably overlooked but another mod will most likely note it out. Seeing as though I have trouble playing the map, I can't find all the parts that would trip me up, and yes, I suck that much, but better playing mods can help. I won't give you a star yet, but make this map less confusing and maybe and a new diff that's good and I will.

Zooooooooooom

[1st Place]:
00:09:45 (1) - I would rather want this slider 1/2 later and another circle here...
00:10:95 (5,6) - Spacing inconsistency.
00:15:31 (2,1) - Uh oh
00:36:59 (1,2,4,5,3,6) - Uh oh o:
00:43:40 (9,10) - Space 10 out more.
In my opinion, you can do a lot more in that break. But whatever~
01:02:50 (7) - New combo? This will rid your spacing inconsistency.
01:05:09 (9,1) - Uh oh :O
01:22:27 (8,7,9,10,11,12) - Uh oh O:
01:33:86 (10) - Start (11) here.

Sliders are tooooo slow. Especially for something like this. :\

Try 1.20 ?

Looks like there's a lot of oopsies after the slider change. :<

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Zooooooooooom

[1st Place]:
00:09:45 (1) - I would rather want this slider 1/2 later and another circle here...
00:10:95 (5,6) - Spacing inconsistency.
00:15:31 (2,1) - Uh oh
00:36:59 (1,2,4,5,3,6) - Uh oh o:
00:43:40 (9,10) - Space 10 out more.
In my opinion, you can do a lot more in that break. But whatever~
01:02:50 (7) - New combo? This will rid your spacing inconsistency.
01:05:09 (9,1) - Uh oh :O
01:22:27 (8,7,9,10,11,12) - Uh oh O:
01:33:86 (10) - Start (11) here.

Sliders are tooooo slow. Especially for something like this. :\

Try 1.20 ?

Looks like there's a lot of oopsies after the slider change. :<

thanks.

the sliders are having issues, xD

fixing

EDIT: fixed. now finishing 2nd place. (Dont mod 2nd yet plz)

LA COURSE DU XXVIEME SIECLE!

[1st Place]:
00:13:13 (4,5) - Add a 1/2 note between these that follows the spacing pattern (Stacking is OK) or space out (5) more.
00:14:77 (1) - I'd rather want this snapped to 1/3 so it follows the melody.
00:16:27 (5,6,7) - See first suggestion.
00:19:68 (9,10) - See first suggestion.
00:37:54 (3) - Nice jump. :T (Fix if you want)
00:38:77 (x) - Add beat here?
00:43:40 (9,10) - Space farther out. (Space 9 farther out from 8 too)
01:12:86 (5,6) - New combo at (6)?
01:19:13 (7,8) - lolwut

All right...Your biggest problem here now is rhythm. It's here and there, being quite odd. It's best to of course...follow the main Big Blue melody. Other than that, solid patterns. You even got some traps up your sleeve.

But the rhythm is going to throw a lot of people off.

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

LA COURSE DU XXVIEME SIECLE!

[1st Place]:
00:13:13 (4,5) - Add a 1/2 note between these that follows the spacing pattern (Stacking is OK) or space out (5) more.
00:14:77 (1) - I'd rather want this snapped to 1/3 so it follows the melody.
00:16:27 (5,6,7) - See first suggestion.
00:19:68 (9,10) - See first suggestion.
00:37:54 (3) - Nice jump. :T (Fix if you want)
00:38:77 (x) - Add beat here?
00:43:40 (9,10) - Space farther out. (Space 9 farther out from 8 too)
01:12:86 (5,6) - New combo at (6)?
01:19:13 (7,8) - lolwut

All right...Your biggest problem here now is rhythm. It's here and there, being quite odd. It's best to of course...follow the main Big Blue melody. Other than that, solid patterns. You even got some traps up your sleeve.

But the rhythm is going to throw a lot of people off.

thanks again

updated

EDIT: Finished 2nd place (also added American BG)

Offset: 30

2nd:
00:14:75 (1) - huge jump
00:20:96 (10) - move a quarter note forward
00:29:34 (6) - have this end directly on 2
00:41:21 (8) - have this end where 4 ends
00:59:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - barely readable
01:10:80 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - readable?

too much mapping on silent notes

Did you know the hs for this diff is 2.2 mil and the hs for 1st place is 2.1 mil.

1st:
01:02:09 (6,7) - the spacing here is very disorienting
01:13:13 (1,2) - random jump?
01:25:81 (8) - I don't like how this note is covered by the slider

same problems as normal basically

The amount of curveballs you throw in this map is very annoying, but you also included small hit circles, making the map more annoying.

Please don't throw more tricks in. Fix this for now. I am going to wait before giving you a star because I probably will have to mod this again soon.

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The score difference between the 2 diffs is very small, between 60k and 70k. There is almost no point in playing the more difficult map.

2nd place:
00:11:77 (3,4,5,6) - make all have the same spacing
00:13:13 (1) - make this the same distance from 8 that 7 is
00:29:36 (6) - try to make this end exactly on 2
01:00:31 (4) - new combo to make it easier to see
01:06:86 (8) - new combo?

1st place:
00:42:18 (6,7) - make parallel to 5,1
01:22:27 (8,9,10,11,12,1,2) - make spacing even here
01:29:77 (2,3,4) - this is going ot mess a lot of people up
01:33:59 (1) - new combo? (fins a way to make this section slightly easier to read)

Even though I don't like this map very much, this map is not that bad. So have a star.

blissfulyoshi wrote:

The score difference between the 2 diffs is very small, between 60k and 70k. There is almost no point in playing the more difficult map.

2nd place:
00:11:77 (3,4,5,6) - make all have the same spacing
00:13:13 (1) - make this the same distance from 8 that 7 is
00:29:36 (6) - try to make this end exactly on 2
01:00:31 (4) - new combo to make it easier to see
01:06:86 (8) - new combo?

1st place:
00:42:18 (6,7) - make parallel to 5,1
01:22:27 (8,9,10,11,12,1,2) - make spacing even here
01:29:77 (2,3,4) - this is going ot mess a lot of people up
01:33:59 (1) - new combo? (fins a way to make this section slightly easier to read)

Even though I don't like this map very much, this map is not that bad. So have a star.

thanks (even if u dont like it)

i'll edit tomorrow.

anyways, can someone help me make a bigger difference between the two diffs?

Glad to see you're back mapping BananasGoMoo~

Found nothing really wrong at all, so this more on suggestions, and you can ignore them if you want.

[2nd Place]
01:11:050 (5) - Minor suggestion, move it a bit downwards? So it can form a proper triangle like pattern
01:33:045 (6) - Minor suggestion, A bit down so it can line up to the previous slider's end point, the next notes after this, go ahead and rearrange them too if you want, maybe like a curve pattern up to the ending slider.

[1st Place]
01:12:045 (2,3,4,5) - Line up with previous slider's endpoint or change the direction of the end point of 01:12:004 (1) - in proportion with the next notes
01:35:050 (1) - Remove Clap

Awesome job!

Star'd

NachoPiggy wrote:

Glad to see you're back mapping BananasGoMoo~

Found nothing really wrong at all, so this more on suggestions, and you can ignore them if you want.

[2nd Place]
01:11:050 (5) - Minor suggestion, move it a bit downwards? So it can form a proper triangle like pattern
01:33:045 (6) - Minor suggestion, A bit down so it can line up to the previous slider's end point, the next notes after this, go ahead and rearrange them too if you want, maybe like a curve pattern up to the ending slider.

[1st Place]
01:12:045 (2,3,4,5) - Line up with previous slider's endpoint or change the direction of the end point of 01:12:004 (1) - in proportion with the next notes
01:35:050 (1) - Remove Clap

Awesome job!

Star'd

thanks, and i'll fix this right away

edit: fixed.

[2nd Place]
Set a preview point.

00:18:045 (9,1) - Make one slider?
00:23:090 (9,1) - ^?
01:09:031 (5,6,7,8) - Less clap?
01:15:031 (5) - Remove?

[1st Place]
Set a preview point.
Slider tick rate 2? (Most of this mod assumes that slider tick rate is 2.)

00:09:045 (1) - Shorten?
00:15:045 (3,4) - Awkward
00:18:031 (3) - Shorten?
00:23:077 (5,6,7) - Awkward
00:26:090 (2) - Remove finish
00:40:027 (2,3,4,5) - Move to red ticks and add a 6?
01:12:059 (2,3,4,5) - Sounds a little better if moved 2/4 beat to the right, but...
01:15:031 (4,5) - Maybe remove?
01:16:068 (12) - Remove
01:33:086 (10,11) - Make into a single slider?

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Offset around 565

[2nd Place]
00:29:031 (6) - Spacing is a bit too close
00:36:029 (7) - End on red tick
00:37:079 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - This part sounds off-timed...

[1st Place]
Contains some spacing flaws due to the grid size you used.
00:37:051 (3,4,5,6,7) - This part sounds off-timed...
01:15:042 (4) - Spaced Too close
01:16:038 (9,10) - Finishes?

animask wrote:

Offset around 565

[2nd Place]
00:29:031 (6) - Spacing is a bit too close
00:36:029 (7) - End on red tick
00:37:079 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - This part sounds off-timed...

[1st Place]
Contains some spacing flaws due to the grid size you used.
00:37:051 (3,4,5,6,7) - This part sounds off-timed...
01:15:042 (4) - Spaced Too close
01:16:038 (9,10) - Finishes?

thanks.
fixed.

Here's your preview point. 00:34:057 - Whether you like it or not. o:

All diffs play to similarly but thats more of a style problem.

uh, preview point? explain.

EDIT: nvm got it

Needs easier diff.

2nd
00:20:018 (7) - new combo
01:12:095 (3) - do not overlap 1 with this slider, plz :<

1st
00:32:072 (1) - silence this plz
01:17:018 (1,2) - that jump scared me
01:22:022 (8) - new combo

Star

thanks, fixing.

also idk if you know, but i have a 3rd difficulty.

EDIT: fixed.

General:

Try to make each difficulty unique, e.g. for each difficulty you use the same slider velocity, why not use a slower one for an easy and a higher one for hard? Same applies to distance snap.


3rd Place:

I found this exceedingly difficult to play, I didn't catch the rhythm at all.

-- Make the circles bigger, I'm confused to what difficulty this is meant to be, a normal? Make the circles really big anyway.

A lot of the spacing look odd such as:
00:22:036 (4,5,6) - See how these overlap, distance snap these without grid snap and make them look better.

-- Go through and re-space everything without distance snap.
-- Decrease the distance snap, if this was an easy it didn't feel like it, I like x0.8 but its up to you.
-- Reduce slider velocity (that is if I'm correct in assuming this is an easy?)

2nd Place:

This plays a lot like 3rd place but a lot better.

- Circle size bigger, one less than the last one.

Pretty nice.

1st Place:

- I don't like really small circle sizes

01:02:045 (7) - New combo.
01:11:018 (6) - Sounds odd, make it hit white ticks.
01:15:081 (5) - New combo.
01:22:022 (8) - ^
01:24:081 (5) - Rhythm?
01:25:049 (6) - New combo?
01:31:090 (2) - No. This note should just be removed
01:33:013 (5) - New combo.

That's all, tell me when it's pending and I'll come and re-check and star

3rd place
2nd place
1st place
*star* and i think i'll do a guest diff.

fixed according to both mods above.

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yah i know. i'm trying to fix that.

[General]

4.5 stars is a bit high for your easiest difficulty.
00:43:090 - 15 seconds of break is quite long; map a chunk of it.

Note placement on the timeline is off on all 3 difficulties frequently; I pointed out where it was most noticeable, but you should confirm every note lines up with an equivalent note in the music, and that it makes sense.

[3rd Place]

00:10:090 (7,8) - Too far.
00:26:086 (3) to 00:32:045 (3) - Timing is off by1/2 at times, play through at 25% speed and adjust.
00:32:004 (2,3) - Too far.
00:40:036 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^
01:30:040 (1) to the end - Quite counterintuitive.

[2nd Place]

Please decide whether you want 1/2 to touch or not, and go through the entire map and make it consistent.
01:27:081 (2,3) until last slider - Timing's off again.

[1st Place]

I really don't like the small hitcircles; please don't make streams with such large spacing and such small circles. They're not very fun.

00:15:040 (3) - Off-time (as well as the rest of the combo)
00:21:081 (3) - New musical phrase -> new combo?
00:23:018 (1) - No new combo here, very random.
00:36:054 (1) - Combo is off-time again, as well as the next one.
01:08:099 (6) - Slider's too short.
01:11:004 (5,6) - Weird timing, incorrect spacing.
01:23:004 (2) - The main beat is where the 1 is, so start the slider there, not 1/2 later. (prevalent throughout the entire map)
01:24:081 (5) - Wrong length.
01:32:018 (3) - Late.
01:35:045 (1,2,3,4) - Random timing, take them out or sync them to the music.

Lots of issues, sorry.

fixed. all of that hopefully.

GO GO GO!

Difficulty name needs work.

EDIT EDIT EDIT!: New updated diff, not much done but at least it's decent, amiright? Oh yeah, can people mod my diff too? I need help.

Download: Naoto Ishida and Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [insert MB's difficulty name here].osu

I am also making guest diff. Now it's under 3.5 stars.

Fix your spacing kthxplz.


edit: okay, here it is. Rename it. Do not mess with difficulty settings, I used bigger circle size that's allowed by editor and if you press "OK" in song settings dialog, it might get smaller again - to fix it, edit .osu with notepad, find "CircleSize:3" and replace "3" with "2".

Download: Naoto Ishida and Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [insert Matma's difficulty name here].osu

thanks for the guest map and i'm working on my spacing right now. idk how it gets so off-spaced at some points.

EDIT: fixed spacing, again.

Here's a diff that Blue Dragon and I made:

Download: Naoto Ishida and Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [Loogie vs. BlueDragon].osu

I also need you to add these two images for the SB:

added map with images.

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thanks, and fixed.

[General]

1. Change the "and" in the artist to "&", please. Don't forget to Full Submit!
2. Why didn't you use the Normal audio sampleset for this? It would fit a lot better.

[Matma's Catching Up]

1. You must add MatmaRex to the Tags.
2. I don't like this difficulty much... the ending is a bit awkward and shouldn't have used so many short sliders.

00:14:072 (4,5) - This sounds rather weird, but it's not your fault. Adding a whistle at the endpoint of this slider might be helpful.

[Loogie Vs. BlueDragon]

1. You must add Loogiesquared and Blue Dragon to the Tags.
2. I might have missed some errors, but just to clear things up, please resnap and recheck everything with 1/2 snap, not 1/4.

~Loogiesquared~
00:16:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1) - Huh, yeah, you must NOT use 1/4 here, but I'll assume it's just a resnapping error. Just get these back 1/4 and you're fine.
00:32:086 (1) - Sounds awkward. Extend 1/2 more.

~Blue Dragon~
01:23:031 (2,3,4,5) - Can you point out the error here? (2) should be 1/4 shorter, but it isn't, messing up the rest of this pattern.
01:35:079 (1,4) - No please.
01:36:061 (2) - Sounds better if you remove one repeat.
01:41:086 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Also sounds weird. I'd say move 1/4 back, but you would have to fix spacing later. Please recheck this.

[3rd Place]

1. Raise Overall Difficulty a bit... Also, you should have mapped with with larger spacing.

00:26:072 (5,6) - Check the spacing.
00:31:063 (1) - Do not use 1/4!
00:35:018 (5,6) - No please.
01:04:009 (3,4) - Sounds weird and out of place. You can transform (4) into a normal hitcircle and it will be fine.

[2nd Place]

00:15:040 (3,4) - Check the spacing.

[1st Place]

1. Most of these jumps are bad, in my opinion, they don't play good at all.

00:15:095 (5,6) - This jump is... horrible, to be honest. It's one of the worse jumps there are.
00:19:063 (10) - Do not use 1/4!
00:38:072 (6) - Do not use 1/4!
00:42:040 (8) - Do not use 1/4!
01:24:068 (5) - Sounds weird, please recheck this.
01:35:045 (1,2,3,4) - 1/3s are confusing here, use 1/4 instead.

~ ~ ~

Sorry, but there still are some things that need fixing, like new combos, hitsounds, etc.... I will recheck this once it has 40+ SP. Sorry to say this, but this map still has a long way to go before ranking.

I, of course, know how to fix all of these things, but I didn't list them because it would be a rather long list AND it would be time consuming... I am actually interested to do this in IRC, so PM me (in IRC) if you're interested too.
But in the meanwhile, you'll have to wait for your star.

thx, fixed mostly in irc.

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Matma Rex wrote:

It uses short, repeated slider becaue they're simplier to hit that stacks/streams, and it's meant to be easy difficulty.

I admit it's easier, but it also falls under "confusing". There are some sliders that you won't know how many repeats will have, this is why. It's not very newb-friendly.

And yes, Matma Rex*. My bad. :p

Gens wrote:

Matma Rex wrote:

It uses short, repeated slider becaue they're simplier to hit that stacks/streams, and it's meant to be easy difficulty.

I admit it's easier, but it also falls under "confusing". There are some sliders that you won't know how many repeats will have, this is why. It's not very newb-friendly.

There are pauses between them, and there are no 10-repeats sliders or anything like that. IIRC it's max. 4 repeats.

Updated, my boy.

Download: Naoto Ishida & Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [insert MB's difficulty name here].osu

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Download: Naoto Ishida & Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [insert MB's difficulty name here].osu

And with that in turn, this appears.

Surprise, and as far as I know, this is done.

Download: Naoto Ishida & Yumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [MB & Kyto Co-Op].osu

MarioBros777 wrote:

And with that in turn, this appears.

Surprise, and as far as I know, this is done.

nice

uploaded/updated

also i need to contact peppy about my graveyarded beatmap cause its interefering with me updating

Should have storyboarded something for the transition between mappers. Oh well.

Needs more modding and bubbling.

yes.

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osuplayer111 wrote:

New "Detailed" modding style for help maps <3

You don't have to follow my post, remember there are not directions, but suggestions!

[File Checking...]

Background: Yes.
Source: Yes.
Tags: Yes.
File Size: 2,16MB/24,00MB

[Overall]

- You have to set a preview point on all difficulties.

Timing: BPM: 110,00 - Offset: 310 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Difficulties]

[Matma's Catching Up]

Slider tick rate 4 sounds weird. Change it to 2.

00:14:075 (4,5) - This is too hard for the most easier difficulty.
00:50:020 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too hard for an easy map.

[Loogie vs. BlueDragon]

00:09:070 (2) - Sounds weird. Adjust the placing of this note correctly.
00:11:088 (2) - ^
00:14:007 (2) - ^
00:17:027 (6,7,8) - Spacing.
00:22:093 (3,1) - ^
00:47:088 (1,2,3,4) - Wrong spacing.
00:50:020 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:15:084 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:22:093 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:29:075 (1) - This slider can't end when the spinner starts.
01:33:043 (1,2,3) - Spacing.
01:33:091 (2) - Replace correctly this slider.
01:35:075 (1) - Remove this note.
01:44:088 (8) - 1/2 backward.

[3rd Place]

01:22:093 (1,2) - Spacing.
01:35:058 (1,2,3,4) - Sounds weird.

[2nd Place]

No major problems found.

[MB & Kyto Co-Op]

Normal hitsounds are too loud. Lower the volume.

00:10:022 (7,8) - Sounds out of place.
00:57:027 (3,4,5) - Spacing.

[1st Place]

01:12:002 (1,2) - Spacing.
01:14:020 (1,2) - ^
01:33:002 (3) - Partially offscreen.

thanks!

i'll work on this tomorrow.

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Matma's Catching Up]

Slider tick rate 4 sounds weird. Change it to 2.

00:14:075 (4,5) - This is too hard for the most easier difficulty.
00:50:020 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too hard for an easy map.

Stop assuming that newbie = dumb, please. You can also miss the whole stream you mentioned and still have 1/3 of life.

And tickrate is IMO okay, but I won't insist on keeping it. BananasGoMoo, change it, if you think it;s better,

Matma Rex wrote:

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Matma's Catching Up]

Slider tick rate 4 sounds weird. Change it to 2.

00:14:075 (4,5) - This is too hard for the most easier difficulty.
00:50:020 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Too hard for an easy map.

Stop assuming that newbie = dumb, please. You can also miss the whole stream you mentioned and still have 1/3 of life.

And tickrate is IMO okay, but I won't insist on keeping it. BananasGoMoo, change it, if you think it;s better,

i'll see what sounds better.

EDIT: updated.

Overall
offset = 0 or possibly -3

Matma's Catching Up
great

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
00:08:075 (1) - end 1/4 back, i'm sure of it
00:10:093 (1) - ^
00:13:011 (1) - ^
01:33:077 (3) - move this 1/4 back, on red tick

3rd place
looks okay

2nd Place
okay

MB & Kyto Co-Op
Aha, this diff has 0 already as the offset, good job on this diff,
(if u think 0 is wrong, then this diff must have matching offsets, but i think 0 sounds good)

1st Place
some of the spacing looked a bit awkward, but i guess it's okay

well, nice map, just fix timing for sure

EEeee wrote:

Overall
offset = 0 or possibly -3

Matma's Catching Up
great

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
00:08:075 (1) - end 1/4 back, i'm sure of it
00:10:093 (1) - ^
00:13:011 (1) - ^
01:33:077 (3) - move this 1/4 back, on red tick

3rd place
looks okay

2nd Place
okay

MB & Kyto Co-Op
Aha, this diff has 0 already as the offset, good job on this diff,
(if u think 0 is wrong, then this diff must have matching offsets, but i think 0 sounds good)

1st Place
some of the spacing looked a bit awkward, but i guess it's okay

well, nice map, just fix timing for sure

thanks i'll update ASAP.

EDIT: Updated.

All diffs: set maximum volume to 70. (Not more than 7th line)

~Matma's Catching Up~
00:32:086 (1) - end on next white tick
01:33:095 (1) - ^

~Loogie vs. BlueDragon~
00:08:065 (1) - start on white tick
00:10:084 (1) - ^
00:13:002 (1) - ^
00:17:024 (6) - on left white tick
00:17:038 (7) - on left red tick
00:20:059 (7) - end on left white tick
00:21:095 (1) - start on left white tick
00:22:090 (3,1) - too close
00:24:013 (1) - start on left white tick
00:54:054 (1,2) - too close
01:15:095 (2) - on right blue tick
01:23:099 (5) - end on white tick
01:25:009 (2) - ^
01:32:018 (2) - move down 1 grid (Lv3)
01:32:072 (5) - end on red tick

~3rd Place~
00:10:090 (7) - new combo
00:12:027 (1) - remove new combo
00:31:063 (1) - end on white tick
01:34:009 (9) - new combo
01:35:045 (1) - on left white tick
01:35:072 (2) - on left blue tick
01:35:089 (3) - on left red tick

~2nd Place~
00:32:072 (10) - new combo
01:33:081 (9) - ^

~MB & Kyto Co-Op~
00:14:011 (3) - start on red tick

~1st Place~
00:17:018 (11,1) - too close
00:19:063 (10) - new combo
00:20:059 (1) - remove new combo
00:23:072 (12) - new combo
00:28:049 (8) - ^
00:28:077 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:065 (2) - on blue tick
01:35:086 (3) - on red tick


+Star

thanks, and updated.

[LoogieVSBD]
01:42:081 (5) - spacing. Looks off I mean

[3rd]
01:13:063 (4) - Looks off spaced
01:35:079 (3,4) - Looks bad and it is hard to see how the notes work

[co-op]
01:01:011 (1) - Don't overlap them
01:54:029 (5) - clap and remove clap on #6
01:54:084 (8) - clap and remove clap on #10

[1st]
00:36:027 (8) - Spacing
00:41:018 (7) - Finish
01:12:040 (2) - hm..... fix it or not
01:15:013 (2) - Spacing
01:35:079 (3,4) - Same reason. #3 gotta have a different spacing emo

I could have get more but going through 6 diffs makes me tired
Starred

thanks, and fixed.

bump. i need mah mods D:

Hello There!

[Matma's Catching Up]
00:07:909 (4) - Move backward to blue tick and add 2 repeat slider
00:12:272 (4) - Move backward to blue tick

[Loogie vs. BlueDragon]
00:32:863 (1) - Extend this spinner to 00:34:909 and add a finish hitsound
01:08:863 (1) - Make parallel
01:25:090 (2,1) - Unrankable slider when slider (1) is overlap with slider (2)
01:44:727 (8) - Offscreen

[2nd Place]
01:33:818 (1) - Extend this slider to 01:36:000

I really don't like this song, but this is a good map
STAR

thanks, and fixed.

Oh god why do you need so many difficulties

Matma
Plays fine, but in my opinion some of those revers sliders are a bit derp.

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
00:08:727 (1) - Shorten by 1/4
00:10:909 (1) - ^
00:13:090 (1) - ^
00:09:750 (2) - Move 1/4 earlier
00:11:931 (2) - ^
00:14:113 (2) - ^
00:17:590 (8) - ^
00:22:909 (3) - Lengthen by 1/4
01:23:318 (2) - Shorten by 1/4

3rd Place
00:13:909 (4,5) - In my opinion these would work better stacked
00:34:636 (3,4,5,6,7) - Do these really need to be so clustered? It's hard to read at the moment, so spread them out a bit.
01:35:454 (1,2,3,4) - This little stream ends a bit crappily, take the finish off 4 and add another note with a finish 1/2 after it.

2nd Place
01:32:590 (4) - Remove finish
01:33:681 (8) - ^

MB & Kyto
That kiai time is sooooooooooo unfitting

1st Place
01:35:454 (1,2,3,4) - As with 3rd Place.

Meh, I suppose this deserves a star.

3rd Place
[General] Due to this mode's spacing, to understand the song's rhythm isn't always easy... fix spacing, please.
00:17:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - move them a square left
00:34:090 (1,4) - new combo on 4th, remove previous new combo
01:22:636 (10,1) - clap on 10th, finish on 1st
01:26:727 (9,10) - whistle on 9th, finish on 10th
01:28:636 (2,3,4) - whistle on 2nd and 4th, clap the other beat
01:32:727 (4,5,8) - clap 4th and 8th, whistle the 5th. Plus, new combo on 4th and 8th
01:35:863 (4) - clap it, and add a finish beat on 01:36:000

2nd Place
00:38:181 (5) - new beat

1st Place
00:10:909 (5) - new combo
00:12:545 (1,4) - new combo on 4th, remove previous new combo
01:36:000 (5) - new finish beat

Matma's Catching Up
01:08:590 (3,1) - try to fill the break time between these beats!

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
[General] Loogiesquared and BlueDragon's sections don't have the same volume for soft hitsounds sections... make it uniford
00:08:727 (1,2) - shrink the slider of a timing tick and move the next beat a timing tick backwards
00:10:909 (1,2) - ^
00:13:090 (1,2) - ^
00:17:522 (8) - move it on 00:17:454 (previous timing tick)
01:04:090 (1) - flip it vertically

MB & Kyto Co-Op
00:17:454 (1,2) - move them a square left

BananasGoMoo's modes have strange hitsound-placing... fix this aspects to see this map ranked...
Show your moves! ;3

thanks, fixing now.
EDIT: Updated

1st Place
00:09:409 (1) - shorten half beat, and repeat
00:11:045 - add note
00:11:727 (3) - move half beat later (don't forget to shorten it) and add note at 00:11:727
00:12:545 (4) - move half beat earlier
00:14:727 (1) - 1/2 longer, and for default remove 00:15:136 (2)
00:15:409 (4) - replace for a single beat
00:16:090 (5) - shorten it half beat
00:35:590 (6) - remove note
00:35:727 (7) - move half beat later (dont forget to shorten it) and add note here 00:35:727
well, you have others rthythm problems like these, but i guess with these examples you can find them and fix it, try to hear the music carefully, and you'll do it fine, check your others diff too

Matma's Catching Up
00:12:818 (5) - wrong spacing
00:16:227 (1) - move to next white tick (dont forget to shorten it) and add not here 00:16:227 -
00:24:136 (1) - start this spinner at 00:24:272 - (next red tick)
01:09:272 - map this break time
this is too hard for an easy diff, imo

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
00:30:954 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - move half beat earlier, and repeat onemore time (7)
00:47:863 (1,2,3) and 00:50:181 (1,2,3) - is better is you use half beat like here 01:08:863 (1) ^^
01:40:363 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - that end dont seem an end, you can do something better

post again in my queue when you fix, for a recheck

Updated.

Matma's catching up:
00:12:136 (4) - add repeat
00:24:272 (1) - end at 00:25:909
00:31:636 (3) - end at 00:32:181
00:50:181 (5,1) -switch new combo
00:53:318 - add slider in this gap?
00:54:545 (4) - add finish
00:54:818 (6) - new combo

Loogie vs BlueDragon
00:21:818 (1) - extend to 00:22:227
00:22:909 (3) - extend to 00:23:454
00:26:863 (2) - new combo
00:47:454 (11,1) - odd place to have jump..
00:51:681 (6) - decrease by 2 repeats
01:23:999 (5) - separate start/end point slightly more
01:37:090 (1) - end at 01:39:000
01:40:363 (1) - end at 01:41:727
01:42:545 (5) - new combo
01:44:727 (9) - new combo?

3rd Place
00:27:136 (6) - end at 00:27:818
00:40:772 (1) - end at 00:41:18
00:41:454 - add note
01:09:272 (1) - remove new combo
01:09:818 (3) - new combo
01:13:227 (3,4) - put on white ticks
01:20:181 (3) - add repeat

2nd place
00:27:136 (4) - end at 00:27:545
00:42:409 (9) - end at 00:43:363
01:18:545 (4) - new combo
01:19:499 (1) - remove new combo/extend to white tick
01:22:909 (4) - new combo
01:29:454 (4) - new combo
01:29:999 (1) - remove new combo

MB and Kyto
00:09:681 (6) - extend by 1/2
00:10:227 (7,8,9) - move back to start on white tick
00:32:318 (6) - new combo
00:57:613 (5) - move to 00:57:545
01:29:045 (1) - remove new combo
01:29:727 (2) - new combo

1st Place
00:16:499 (5) - new combo
00:35:863 (6) - start at 00:35:727 end at 00:36:000
01:14:181 (1) - end at 01:15:000
01:26:045 (5) - end at 01:27:000

Long mod is long *star*

James2250 wrote:

Matma's catching up:
00:12:136 (4) - add repeat
00:24:272 (1) - end at 00:25:909
00:31:636 (3) - end at 00:32:181
00:50:181 (5,1) -switch new combo
00:53:318 - add slider in this gap?
00:54:545 (4) - add finish
00:54:818 (6) - new combo

Loogie vs BlueDragon
00:21:818 (1) - extend to 00:22:227
00:22:909 (3) - extend to 00:23:454
00:26:863 (2) - new combo
00:47:454 (11,1) - odd place to have jump..
00:51:681 (6) - decrease by 2 repeats
01:23:999 (5) - separate start/end point slightly more
01:37:090 (1) - end at 01:39:000
01:40:363 (1) - end at 01:41:727
01:42:545 (5) - new combo
01:44:727 (9) - new combo?

3rd Place
00:27:136 (6) - end at 00:27:818
00:40:772 (1) - end at 00:41:18
00:41:454 - add note
01:09:272 (1) - remove new combo
01:09:818 (3) - new combo
01:13:227 (3,4) - put on white ticks
01:20:181 (3) - add repeat

2nd place
00:27:136 (4) - end at 00:27:545
00:42:409 (9) - end at 00:43:363
01:18:545 (4) - new combo
01:19:499 (1) - remove new combo/extend to white tick
01:22:909 (4) - new combo
01:29:454 (4) - new combo
01:29:999 (1) - remove new combo

MB and Kyto
00:09:681 (6) - extend by 1/2
00:10:227 (7,8,9) - move back to start on white tick
00:32:318 (6) - new combo
00:57:613 (5) - move to 00:57:545
01:29:045 (1) - remove new combo
01:29:727 (2) - new combo

1st Place
00:16:499 (5) - new combo
00:35:863 (6) - start at 00:35:727 end at 00:36:000
01:14:181 (1) - end at 01:15:000
01:26:045 (5) - end at 01:27:000

Long mod is long *star*

i'll fix this tomorrow.

EDIT: Updated

Eww, what's with the hitsound volume for my diff...

It's so soft. Make all the Normal hitsounds louder.

Soft hitsounds can stay the same.

[Loogie vs. Blue Dragon]

00:23:727 (1) - Try adding a repeat here, then make the spinner start on the red tick and finish on the white one ^^
Like this: http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot017-15.jpg
00:27:272 (2) - Start this slider 1/4 before, and make it finish where it finished initially.
01:36:136 (1) - Move this 1/4 after


[2nd Place]

00:19:227 (2,3,4,5) - Move this 1/2 back, then don't forget to fix the spacing
01:19:227 (2,3,4) - Fix the spacing
01:20:590 (7,8) - Whoa, huge jump!


Try to improve the hitsounds on 1st, 2nd and 3rd Place. Also the break in those diffs is very long IMO.


Star*

Resize background to 1024x768.

[Matma's Catching Up]
This difficulty should have the same BPM like others.

[Loogie vs. BlueDragon]
00:14:727 (1,2) - Spacing.
00:26:863 (1,2) - This part is weird and unintuitive. Delete one repeat from (1), then move (2) 1/4 back and end it on 00:27:954.
00:47:454 (11,1) - Unintuitive jump.
00:47:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Wtf? Totally hidden & unreadable. I have no idea how can you make it more playable, but you have to do it. Really weird pattern
00:50:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This combo looks better a bit... but (4) and (6) are still hiddened.
01:24:954 (1) - Hidden, bad spaced note. Delete it.
01:25:090 (6,1) - Spacing.

[3rd Place]
00:36:272 (5,6) - Spacing.
01:12:818 (2,3) - ^

[2nd Place]
00:27:136 (4,1) - Spacing.
00:38:181 (5,6) - ^

[MB & Kyto Co-Op]
01:00:024 - Why is this section uninherited? And what is the purpose of it?

Meh, nothing else to say, star.

[All diffs]
I don't like the breaks in this map (especially between 00:35:181 and 00:43:636....)
It felt pretty forced and awful D:
The only place i would ever place a break on this song is between 01:01:090 and 01:09:681 :/
I would also prefer that every diff had the same length as MB & Kyto Co-Op

[Matama]
Don't like how this diff can't decide if it want to be a easy or a hard.....

[Loogie + BD]
00:47:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - It's way to hard to see where to press here
00:59:727 (2) - Move 1/4 backwards on the timeline

[3:rd place]


[2nd place]


[MB & Kyto Co-Op]
Remove countdown
And why does this diff has combo colours when the other ones don't

[1st place]
Ok

I must say that i like your diffs more then the guest difficulties
*star*

2nd Place
00:11:999 (5) - remove
00:14:727 (1) - shorten half beat, and repeat, remove next (2)
00:16:363 (1) - remove
00:19:090 - add note
00:19:909 (6) - wrong spaced
00:33:954 (2) - remove, maybe put a spinner instead
00:38:318 (6) - wrong spaced
00:43:636 (10) - ^
01:00:545 (3) - remove
01:06:818 (1,2) - move half beat earlier and remove 01:07:227 (4)
01:11:181 (3,4) - move half beat earlier
01:20:999 (8) - wrong spaced
01:22:227 - add note
01:26:181 (4) - wrong spaced

1st Place
00:12:272 - add note
00:12:409 (6,7) - wrong spacing
00:14:727 (1) - half beat longer, and place a note here 00:15:409
00:18:545 (4,5) - remove
00:32:045 (5) - shorten half beat, and place a note here 00:32:454
00:43:227 - add note
01:04:363 (4) - remove
01:06:954 (7) - move half beat later
01:07:227 (8) - remove
01:07:499 (9) - ^
01:08:181 (4) - ^
Try to follow that rhythm for those parts plz, sounds a lot better
01:22:090 - add note
01:22:909 (1,2) - start the slider in (1), end point, the same
01:24:681 (5) - shorten half beat and repeat 3 times
01:28:909 (9,1) - remove (9), and start the slider here 01:28:909
01:31:636 (1) - half beat longer

I'll check other diff later

ok Liss ask me to mod the 3 diff left.. so here we go

3rd Place
this is a beat placement mod, your map will be easier to follow if you fix this ( don't forget to fix the spacing after the changes )
00:15:545 (3) - remove this slid and at a note at 00:16:090 -
00:20:727 (4) - start 1/2 beat earlier, removing (3), remember to stretch slider 1/2 so it ends at 00:21:545
00:21:954 (2) - remove this note
00:22:227 - add note
00:22:772 - add note
00:26:727 (3) - remove note
00:28:363 (1,2,3) - do here the same you did in prev combo, rhythm is the same... you don have to copy/paste, bus use the same beat placement
00:33:000 - i suggest to add spinner here. Start point: 00:33:000; Endpoint: 00:33:000
00:34:909 (1) - remove
01:15:545 (4,5) - remove
01:18:954 (2) - end 1/2 later and move next slid 1/2 later
01:29:999 (3) - remove
01:31:500 - add note
01:35:454 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesnt follow the rhythm

Loogie vs. BlueDragon
01:23:999 (5,1,2) - could you make this less cofusing.. is kind of messy
00:30:818 (2) - too far from (1)
00:55:772 (4,5,6,7) - space this evenly

MB & Kyto Co-Op
00:13:909 (2,3) - doesn't fit, add notes at 00:13:909 - 00:14:045 -
00:20:590 (1) - move start point 1/2 later and add note here
00:26:181 (1,2) - extend each 1/4 beat
00:57:272 (3,4,5) - stack together
00:22:500 (3) - too far from (2)

ok im going to fix all of this stuff right now.

fix'd.

Gaaah 6 diffs.

[Matma]
00:27:136 (4) - finishing this slider 1/2 earlier would sound better

[Loogie + BD]
00:26:727 (1,2) - these are 1/2 beat late. put them 1/2 beat earlier and fix the end of the slider to 00:27:818
01:36:204 (1) - 1/4 beat earlier sounds better?

[3rd Place]
Raise Overall difficulty. this is not an easy.
00:22:772 (7,1) - align with others?
00:24:818 (6,1) - align?
01:07:363 (5,1) - ^
01:13:363 (3,4,5) - spacing. this is not a jump.
01:35:454 (1,2,3,4) - spacing.

[2nd place]
01:06:681 (1,2,3) - spacing.

[MB + Kyto]
normal hitsounds are a little too loud. I can't even hear the music.
check AIMOD : lot of unsnapped objects.
00:11:727 (2,3) - align?

[1st place]
00:30:545 (1,2) - make parallel?
01:02:999 (5) - up 1 grid to be inline with other notes
01:06:818 (6,7) - spacing.
01:07:636 (1,2,3) - damn, spacing.
01:17:181 (1,2) - align?

i'll update this sometime today.

also thx.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Naoto IshidaYumiko Kametani - Big Blue (BananasGoMoo) [Liz-Example].osu

Lizbeth so helpful.

[Matma's Catching Up]:
00:12:136 (4,5) - Can you perhaps repostion (4) so it'll be smoother to get to (5)?
00:21:818 (1,2,3) - Spacing doesn't look too well off. It's hard to notice a difference between each of the three. Fix by moving (1)?
00:56:727 (7) - This isn't really a mistake or anything, but to me, this break feels random. XD
01:04:909 (4,1) - Combo underspacing (or antijump). I wouldn't picky with this on a harder difficulty, but since this is an easier one...Move (4) somewhere else so it won't be so clingy to (1)?
01:22:909 (1,2,3) - As mentioned back in 00:21.

[Loogie vs. BlueDragon]:
00:47:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The middle of this cluster is a total nightmare. @w@
01:04:090 (1) - Around here, the Blue Dragon mark seems to make a strange turn (On the SB). Is this intentional?

[3rd Place]:
This would be one of those maps I'd play on HR since it'll be easier that way.
00:26:454 (2,3) - Spacing? D: You can perhaps fix this by moving (2) to the left of (1).
00:28:636 (2,3) - Same here, but I'm sure a different solution would be called for.
00:36:272 (4,5) - Space (4) closer to (5).
01:35:454 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing. XD

[2nd Place]:
01:06:681 (1,2,3,4) - Heehee, more spacing.

[MB & Kyto Co-Op]:
00:57:818 (1,2,1) - <3

[1st Place]:
01:04:090 (2,3,4,5) - Spacing...(3) and (4). D:
01:06:681 (5,6,7) - Spacing again. XD (5) and (6).
01:08:045 (3,4) - Same as above.

There seems to be a lot of spacing problems. I don't know if some of them are intentional, but if they are, they seem to confuse me more than let me do my playing.

That smiley face was horrible...

I just wanted to put that in there as a reminder of how I thought of that for Sora-iro Days.

Yeah... And Kibun Jojou.

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