If you're town I can just revive you if there's a doc and I survive this night.
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reviving me won't help you at all. my role is already gone. also speculating that you will survive the night is another assumption, and it isn't a given. if anything, if you survive the night, it will strenghthen the scumtell on you.
also, why so fixated on doctors this game? like, you asked me an awful lot about doctors. you said earlier that a doctor could rescue you. you say that kanye might be a doctor. you say again that a doctor could save you, and that this doctor might be kanye (that is what you hinted at, eh?).
also, why so fixated on doctors this game? like, you asked me an awful lot about doctors. you said earlier that a doctor could rescue you. you say that kanye might be a doctor. you say again that a doctor could save you, and that this doctor might be kanye (that is what you hinted at, eh?).
Because a doctor can save me so I can revive people obviously.
@Tanz: It WILL help, but the way you're going, you're just going to run everyone to danger and force them to claim, so at this pace, what good did it do to say no to mass claiming? we already know the characters and abilities of 3 people, and you want to reveal a 4th.
@Tanz: It WILL help, but the way you're going, you're just going to run everyone to danger and force them to claim, so at this pace, what good did it do to say no to mass claiming? we already know the characters and abilities of 3 people, and you want to reveal a 4th.
I don't want to reveal a 4th. I want to catch scum. I think kanye is scum. a claim is normally only the last resort, if nothing else helps anymore. anybody you'll try to lynch will claim sooner or later, since everyone has a PR. not going after scum because they might be a useful PR is just not an good argument.
Like you?Tanzklaue wrote:
I don't want to reveal a 4th. I want to catch scum. I think kanye is scum. a claim is normally only the last resort, if nothing else helps anymore. anybody you'll try to lynch will claim sooner or later, since everyone has a PR. not going after scum because they might be a useful PR is just not an good argument.
no, because I am not scum.
it actually doesn't help to discuss anything with you. I will wait until RB, lilac etc. come back and post their opinions. they will basically decide what happens from now on.
it actually doesn't help to discuss anything with you. I will wait until RB, lilac etc. come back and post their opinions. they will basically decide what happens from now on.
Oh really! How interesting.Tanzklaue wrote:
no, because I am not scum.
You're the same as kanye... you MIGHT be a useful town PR, or you MIGHT be an useless scum PR. I might be a useful Town PR, or I might be a useful scum PR, there's simply no way of telling, i'm just going by your attitude so far which seems to stem on wanting to deflect onto one of the inactives, kanye.
....I honestly think this has gotten too far...
just because I'm death tunneling Tanz to figure his alignment?
You guys haven't really proven anything in the last few pages, it was just a straight back-and-forth argument. At this rate, you guys are just making yourself look worse imo. Sometimes it's better to just step back and rethink your strategy, no?
I'll agree with you that Tanz still looks pretty suspicious, his claim was kinda weird, and going after lurkers instead isn't really the best thing to do. But since you've been hammering away so hard on him, it's made it really hard for other people to post. At least, I personally couldn't come up with much to say. We need consensus to lynch people, right? So let's wait a bit and have a listen on what other people think?
I'll agree with you that Tanz still looks pretty suspicious, his claim was kinda weird, and going after lurkers instead isn't really the best thing to do. But since you've been hammering away so hard on him, it's made it really hard for other people to post. At least, I personally couldn't come up with much to say. We need consensus to lynch people, right? So let's wait a bit and have a listen on what other people think?
Last posts before heading to the bed.
Look at the page 31. Then look at the total amount of pages. 38-31 = 7. You have been fighting with Tanz for 7 pages straight, don't you think a solution would already be found if there was an actual one for this? I really feel sorry for the people that are gonna wake up to this and have to read through it all, making some sense out of it.
Look at the page 31. Then look at the total amount of pages. 38-31 = 7. You have been fighting with Tanz for 7 pages straight, don't you think a solution would already be found if there was an actual one for this? I really feel sorry for the people that are gonna wake up to this and have to read through it all, making some sense out of it.
;~;
Those 7 pages helped me figure out Tanz stances and reasons, so they aren't a waste.
You never replied to my statement regarding kanye's town meta tho
You never replied to my statement regarding kanye's town meta tho
That's EXACTLY what i've been trying to say those 7 pages, OMG someone that understands has appeared.BRBP wrote:
Right, Kanye...
I'd rather lynch scummy people instead of inactive people first.
omg Sakura + BRBP scumteam
The problem is that I'm not sure if Tanz is scummy enough for us to be so focused on him. I don't really feel like looking for it, but Kanye said something like "acting scummy =/= actually being scum". In the end, because of this uncertainty, the likelihood of either Tanz or Kanye flipping town is probably somewhat similar - that is, I'm almost equally unsure of whether Kanye is scum as I am unsure of Tanz. Of course, to me, Tanz is more scummy, but not everyone agrees...
I voted for Kanye based on how he played in DotA, granted there wasn't much.
@Kanye, then actually start posting more instead of popping in after every prod.
Truthfully, I only read up to like page 34.
@Sakura, did you honestly get anything out of it? Or are you still just tunnelling the hell out of Tanz? Honestly, only thing I agreed was the claim and how odd it was for Tanz to claim gunsmith and then got confused the hell out his own "role" , but other than that, during your back and forth argument, did you honestly get anything at all? What is your stance on Tanz then?
I think for the time being, my current suspects are Tanz/Sakura. To me, one is probably scum. Tunnelling the hell out of a useful player? Or Roleclaiming but doesn't seem like he knows his own role? Both.....maybe scum but a very low chance. I don't think anyone would argue for 7 pages and be scum buddies.
Kanye for his general activity here. The only time he tends to post is after a prod. He's saying he's actually busy during DotA but this time, you can see he obviously moderates his own game.
BRBP to me is just.....i don't know. His actions weren't justified and just because he's a dayvig doesn't confirm he's town I suppose. Honestly, even I used the wiki when I was checking dayvig. Maybe pieguy isn't a bastard mod, but you'll never know. Of course I could be wrong.
@Kanye, then actually start posting more instead of popping in after every prod.
fartownik wrote:
I really feel sorry for the people that are gonna wake up to this and have to read through it all, making some sense out of it.
Truthfully, I only read up to like page 34.
@Sakura, did you honestly get anything out of it? Or are you still just tunnelling the hell out of Tanz? Honestly, only thing I agreed was the claim and how odd it was for Tanz to claim gunsmith and then got confused the hell out his own "role" , but other than that, during your back and forth argument, did you honestly get anything at all? What is your stance on Tanz then?
I think for the time being, my current suspects are Tanz/Sakura. To me, one is probably scum. Tunnelling the hell out of a useful player? Or Roleclaiming but doesn't seem like he knows his own role? Both.....maybe scum but a very low chance. I don't think anyone would argue for 7 pages and be scum buddies.
Kanye for his general activity here. The only time he tends to post is after a prod. He's saying he's actually busy during DotA but this time, you can see he obviously moderates his own game.
BRBP to me is just.....i don't know. His actions weren't justified and just because he's a dayvig doesn't confirm he's town I suppose. Honestly, even I used the wiki when I was checking dayvig. Maybe pieguy isn't a bastard mod, but you'll never know. Of course I could be wrong.
Exactly, you must look at intent, which is why I'm voting Tanz.
I'm also reminded that if we're all really unsure, then it's still possible to go for No Lynch, but that might not be such a good idea after all...?
The fact that there's a 2-shot reviver, means that anything could happen
inb4 town reviver to counter scum dayvig.
inb4 town reviver to counter scum dayvig.
Actually it would, we already lost 1 towny today, we could assume we lynched NH instead.Kitsunemimi wrote:
I'm also reminded that if we're all really unsure, then it's still possible to go for No Lynch, but that might not be such a good idea after all...?
Vote: No Lynch
Remember when BRBP made his post to reply to all of the suspicions held against him? Since pieguy had confirmed his dayvig status afterwards, that also most likely means that everything he said in that post was true. I had grilled him pretty hard with the post I made too, and considering how close he was to the fire, as well as his previous (thoughtless?) contradictions/errors, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't lie about anything in that post, in which he did explicitly state that he was 1-shot dayvig, town aligned. Combine that with the likelyhood of a mafia aligned dayvig, and he's almost certainly town.Raging Bull wrote:
BRBP to me is just.....i don't know. His actions weren't justified and just because he's a dayvig doesn't confirm he's town I suppose. Honestly, even I used the wiki when I was checking dayvig. Maybe pieguy isn't a bastard mod, but you'll never know. Of course I could be wrong.
You can pretty much never be 100% sure, but that's kind of how mafia is... right?
As I said, we already had 1 casualty today, let's keep it that way I don't want to risk having 2 townies dead in the case both tanz and kanye are both town.
Alright I think I'll stick a vote in No Lynch for now, and hope this works out for the better >_<
Vote: No lynch
If this goes through, then Kanye, I really really hope you use the time to start to posting more, as it would help us settle this debate.
If you STILL continue with your inactivity, then I'm going to start to see that as pretty suspicious...
Vote: No lynch
If this goes through, then Kanye, I really really hope you use the time to start to posting more, as it would help us settle this debate.
If you STILL continue with your inactivity, then I'm going to start to see that as pretty suspicious...
Topic Starter
Votecount 1.8:
Tanzklaue (3) - Royston, Lilac, Kanye West
Kanye West (3) - Raging Bull, fartownik, Tanzklaue
No lynch (2) - Sakura, Kitsunemimi
Jinxy (1) - BRBP
fartownik (1) - Jinxy
deadline is in 9:42
btw, in case I didn't mention it before, ties go to the player who had the most votes before the tie
Tanzklaue (3) - Royston, Lilac, Kanye West
Kanye West (3) - Raging Bull, fartownik, Tanzklaue
No lynch (2) - Sakura, Kitsunemimi
Jinxy (1) - BRBP
fartownik (1) - Jinxy
deadline is in 9:42
btw, in case I didn't mention it before, ties go to the player who had the most votes before the tie
Unvote.
There is no way I'm taking the risk for now on voting for Tanz even if I think that the idea of a Gunsmith being around as that could be either Town or Mafia and that the mafia scenario is griping at me. I can't do a deduction of a vote while hearing a math lecture at the same time while typing this but I think I have a good enough idea now as to what to do at night tonight.
I'll explain why I have two possible scum teams in mind. A no lynch though, is a very terrible idea in my eyes. Even though we already have a town down, leaving a day without a lynch means a day that town leaves without an informed decision on who is mafia. A Kanye lynch will see whether one of the possible scum teams that I have in mind are true.
I will explain more when I can.
There is no way I'm taking the risk for now on voting for Tanz even if I think that the idea of a Gunsmith being around as that could be either Town or Mafia and that the mafia scenario is griping at me. I can't do a deduction of a vote while hearing a math lecture at the same time while typing this but I think I have a good enough idea now as to what to do at night tonight.
I'll explain why I have two possible scum teams in mind. A no lynch though, is a very terrible idea in my eyes. Even though we already have a town down, leaving a day without a lynch means a day that town leaves without an informed decision on who is mafia. A Kanye lynch will see whether one of the possible scum teams that I have in mind are true.
I will explain more when I can.
Unvote
Vote:Lilac
Somehow it looks as though you are just gonna go along with the lynch and not get involved. Recent behavior has been rather irritating me. You've been hopping around back and forth way too much for me.
I also cannot tell if the small little thing on Kitsunemimi was just distancing. Within one hour of your post, you voted for Kitsune and then unvoted. Used day chat to coordinate this little scene?
And then afterwards, you switched so fast to tanz to perhaps join up on his bandwagon that was starting to happen. You said you were going to post reasoning, yet it never happened. Seems as though you targetted Kitsunemimi first then Tanz so tanz would have a harder time to give a reply without saying exactly what Kitsunemimi said.
Also rantai is my new hero
Vote:Lilac
Somehow it looks as though you are just gonna go along with the lynch and not get involved. Recent behavior has been rather irritating me. You've been hopping around back and forth way too much for me.
Scumslip? How do you know there are 3 mafias?Lilac wrote:
I also forgot about the possibility of a Serial Killer to balance the mafia of 3. That is definitely a possibility.
I also cannot tell if the small little thing on Kitsunemimi was just distancing. Within one hour of your post, you voted for Kitsune and then unvoted. Used day chat to coordinate this little scene?
And then afterwards, you switched so fast to tanz to perhaps join up on his bandwagon that was starting to happen. You said you were going to post reasoning, yet it never happened. Seems as though you targetted Kitsunemimi first then Tanz so tanz would have a harder time to give a reply without saying exactly what Kitsunemimi said.
Also rantai is my new hero
Rantai wrote:
In less subtle words, come at me now. We'll see how good you are.
The formula for the most optimal mafia game is m divide by the square root of P, where m is the number of mafia and P is the number of players. I don't know if there are three mafia but I am confident that there is.
I did go for Tanz in the hope of getting reason on him but, like I said in my previous post, I just did not have the time to think straight while in class and I still can't right now when I'm out and about to get home. I'm not getting involved in any lynch because I can not focus right now on to who I want to lynch. I probably won't get home in time before the hammer occurs but I will explain everything tomorrow.
I did go for Tanz in the hope of getting reason on him but, like I said in my previous post, I just did not have the time to think straight while in class and I still can't right now when I'm out and about to get home. I'm not getting involved in any lynch because I can not focus right now on to who I want to lynch. I probably won't get home in time before the hammer occurs but I will explain everything tomorrow.
EBWOP: Tomorrow as in the next day in this game.
so...square root of 12 = mafia?
Yes. That's how I see it. Use that number to also resolve how much kills and lunches it takes to get to Lylo and that's how I see that formula can hold true.
lynches* My phone does that a lot.
What do you think about Kitsunemimi right now? What is your stance on his(her not sure) no lynch that he offered?
I think I already stated my stance on this.
Reason I didn't vote for Kanye is because I was not in the right mindset at the time to give a reason and I would never vote anyone without a well thought out reason behind it.Lilac wrote:
Even though we already have a town down, leaving a day without a lynch means a day that town leaves without an informed decision on who is mafia. A Kanye lynch will see whether one of the possible scum teams that I have in mind are true.
deadline is approaching.
RB, pressuring lilac now means that you go indirectly for a lynch against me. if you don't want that, then you shouldn't keep your vote on lilac.
I'm all for pressuring different people, but the deadline is too close to do much pressuring now.
RB, pressuring lilac now means that you go indirectly for a lynch against me. if you don't want that, then you shouldn't keep your vote on lilac.
I'm all for pressuring different people, but the deadline is too close to do much pressuring now.
If memory serves there's about 50 minutes left or maybe even less so just hang on until I get home. I'll figure something out even though I'm starving. I will get home in about less than 30 so that should be barely enough time to get something out. This is like a marathon guys, stay with me here.