Rantai wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

The bolded portions are are basically statements that we shouldn't lynch anyone because we MIGHT end up killing something powerful for us. This is fallacious and a very bad argument, as well as scummy since I've yet to see anything that indicates we would get close to any useful information from night actions. Relying on night actions in this game is absurd and we have no evidence of any kind that it will help us at all. We're literally gambling on our night actions getting information that likely won't even be very useful to us. Saying that we shouldn't lynch because we MIGHT stop that limited information we can get from night actions is very weak and not something I can see from town.

Perhaps I've become way too jaded over the last few years, but going ahead with the lynch simply gambles on the reliability of d1 reads, something I have low confidence with. Though with both situations there is the possibility of getting lucky and nailing a scum but I'd say it's more likely on the NL path for this day.

On another note; any reason you're not suspecting/mentioning me for having a similar stance?

pieguy1372 wrote:

except I haven't even mentioned gut feeling except for when you ask what my initial reasons for voting you were or ask I elaborate on the reasons. which you've mentioned like 12 times instead of asking new questions

pieguy1372 wrote:

wait what the hell am I even saying, I already set it up obv, I'm mostly just too tired to do anything right now cause it's 2:21 PM and I've been up since 8:30 PM yesterday

anyway, cut to the chase
after thinking about it NL might not be such a good idea cause there might not even be a vig/PGO or they both might kill someone. also seems it would delay information, it'd be better to get the game moving just so new stuff can happen
okay I swear I saw a post by RB saying that he was for NL and then I saw a post saying that he didn't think NL was a good idea. also seems RB isn't posting quite as much as the others. also Qua was all for NL then said something like "scumhunting should be enough for us to lynch mafia" which I'm not even sure how that could work together..
Tsukasa seems to be actually doing stuff so he's town for me. Caligno seems to be doing stuff too, I think Rantai is town for reasons, and imo fartownik is leaning town for me due to gut feeling. also it's reasonable to think that Tanz just screwed up or wasn't paying attention or was tired etc.
we've spent all this time just arguing over NL or not NL, we need to do something
vote: RB see above for the idea, also it's my gut feeling. if anyone sees something wrong with my analysis let me know plz cause I probably messed something up

Tsukasa wrote:

I don't want to disclose what happened since it's pretty much like claiming and I never want that.

Though Qua is actually telling the truth

Tsukasa wrote:

Or I could follow RB on pieguy because he's being lurky and he only posts to defend himself

fartownik wrote:

My take on what happened here:

If the claims are true, we had 3 Mystery Roles: Caligno (Cop), Tanz (Something), Quarezha (Something).

pieguy1372 wrote:

that's assuming Tanz is a doctor and he protected Tsukasa, so we'd get Qua (now a secret role), Tanz, and Caligno who died
for me this means Tanz and Qua are probably both town, it's not in mafia's favor to claim what their target was, unless one of them is outright lying

Rantai wrote:

About Fart, those last minute vote/unvotes was basically unnecessary, makes me wonder why he did those.

Rantai wrote:

Except. RB was in no danger of being lynched at the time (3 for NL). Actually for that matter, no matter what you voted, it would have made no difference to the outcome.

Rantai wrote:

I guess the only thing for him is that having 2 mystery roles seems like a fairly low number but then again we have secret roles so maybe it makes sense?.

Raging Bull wrote:

Why cant we just vote pieguy ? He kept contradicting himself

BRBP wrote:

inb4 Qua + RB scumteam

You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.

And to me this seems more like an attempt to attack everyone who's willing to vote you (RB -> Qua (joke, maybe not?)-> Me). You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.

Your reasoning comes down to
*Being one of the people who's willing to vote you
*Being one of the people who didn't participate in your fight (7 out of 9)

Rantai wrote:

Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)

Rantai wrote:

I'd rather vote for Tanz to be honest.

Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)

pieguy1372 wrote:

attacking someone several times with BS reasoning, misquoting or outright ignoring what they said in defense, and outright not responding to questions isn't worth much? did you even read the thread

Raging Bull wrote:

Get your RNG ready.

Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.

So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.

He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.