Does this mean Tanz is not telling the truth? How do you know Quarezha is being honest?Tsukasa wrote:
I don't want to disclose what happened since it's pretty much like claiming and I never want that.
Though Qua is actually telling the truth
I've posted my reads and started the whole thing with RBTsukasa wrote:
Or I could follow RB on pieguy because he's being lurky and he only posts to defend himself
Is what made me think we have 3 mystery roles.fartownik wrote:
My take on what happened here:
If the claims are true, we had 3 Mystery Roles: Caligno (Cop), Tanz (Something), Quarezha (Something).
However, Tsukasa is saying that he was not protected by Tanz. But would rather not claim yet. He also says he can clear me 90%.pieguy1372 wrote:
that's assuming Tanz is a doctor and he protected Tsukasa, so we'd get Qua (now a secret role), Tanz, and Caligno who died
for me this means Tanz and Qua are probably both town, it's not in mafia's favor to claim what their target was, unless one of them is outright lying
Because RB was about to be lynched and I thought he was not scum?Rantai wrote:
About Fart, those last minute vote/unvotes was basically unnecessary, makes me wonder why he did those.
I didn't know the votecount at that moment, I thought it will be safer if I just unvote, why wouldn't I do that? Should I've risked him being lynched off when I was not sure?Rantai wrote:
Except. RB was in no danger of being lynched at the time (3 for NL). Actually for that matter, no matter what you voted, it would have made no difference to the outcome.
Maybe one or two other more Mystery Roles are hiding and have nothing significant nor important to report so far?Rantai wrote:
I guess the only thing for him is that having 2 mystery roles seems like a fairly low number but then again we have secret roles so maybe it makes sense?.
okay no. you have done nothing but come up with bullshit reasoning to get me lynched. you also haven't even given any logical response to anything I've countered, alsoRaging Bull wrote:
Why cant we just vote pieguy ? He kept contradicting himself
I'm doing a lot less hopping around than you did pieguy, your vote on me was based on me rather no lynching or lynch. As you can see, I didn't even vote for any of them. I never made some finalized voting yet because I'm still for lynching someone.nope it's cause you just magically agree with everything that comes up. when people wanted to NL, you wanted to NL. when people wanted to lynch, you suddenly wanted to lynch. easiest way for mafia to be undetected is to just follow what everyone else does
I really don't care if you guys think this is OMGUS. pieguy is just reading scum to me. He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.that vote was just temporary till I got an answer from caligno. no point in not voting him for then when there's a possibility what he said is outright impossible
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.makes it seem like I'm doing something illogical when I'm not
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.misquotes my statement implying I said we should just wait around for a whole day when I never said that
Yet a simple question would suffice, but apparently voting someone who is nowhere near lynch at all = pressure. I will never ever understand that because it makes no sense.voting someone = more pressure than not voting someone, again tries to make it seem like I'm doing something illogical when I'm not
I thought it's funny how you unvoted NL without a reason until the next post. If it was RVS, okay then, but what? Usually you provide a reason for voting and unvoting.cause I realized NL was a bad idea, I unvoted NL in advance and posted my reasoning with my next post, since it was a vote/unvote I wanted to put it there first
It's all you. Don't scum paint anyone else.posted this in response to me offering valid reasoning
And if you're curious, I tried breaking your entire arguement on voting for me, and all you can ever default to is gut feeling. Have some actual solid evidence.I mentioned everything above previously and he just says I "default to gut feeling"
What?okay so here I ask him where I mentioned gut feeling after he started accusing me with BS reasons, and he srsly quoted my original vote and that was it. afaik we're supposed to post reasoning with votes
I don't care what you think of my role now, but when I flip town, please lynch him.
I want to flip as town so everyone can see that pieguy is just voting me for a really weak excuse.
But once I flip town, my job is done.people who say this are 99.99% mafia
that was a joke cause Qua blatantly followed RB's BS reasonsBRBP wrote:
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.attacking someone several times with BS reasoning, misquoting or outright ignoring what they said in defense, and outright not responding to questions isn't worth much? did you even read the thread
And to me this seems more like an attempt to attack everyone who's willing to vote you (RB -> Qua (joke, maybe not?)-> Me). You've probably realized by now that your points on RB aren't really worth much, and Qua is basically confirmed, so you attacked me.no, it's based off the reasoning that the best way for mafia to go unnoticed is to follow others
Your reasoning comes down toa lot of people weren't posting cause they weren't there. you, on the other hand, were
*Being one of the people who's willing to vote you
*Being one of the people who didn't participate in your fight (7 out of 9)
I have a headache from this whole thing too, roflRantai wrote:
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
Rantai wrote:
I'd rather vote for Tanz to be honest.
Pieguy's and RB's argument reminds me of the headaches school mafia gave me ._. (I'll go through it later when I'm not exhausted)
pieguy1372 wrote:
attacking someone several times with BS reasoning, misquoting or outright ignoring what they said in defense, and outright not responding to questions isn't worth much? did you even read the thread
Raging Bull wrote:
Get your RNG ready.
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.
He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.there were others just too lazy to find more
*blending in to avoid being caughtBRBP wrote:
*Being one of the people who's willing to vote you
*Being one of the people who didn't participate in your fight (7 out of 9)
*Being one of the people skimming through the thread to avoid 24h of inactivity when you were fighting and not posting(1 out of 9)
Assuming this is about RB, you call this blending in?blending in of course until he got caught, then he went into madness mode to try to get me lynched instead
I'm also intrested in why you didn't vote for RB again after all what you said about him.cause I thought it was really really weird how three people just suddenly agreed to lynch me. best strategy for mafia is to just follow others
BRBP wrote:
Unless you're (pieguy) intentionally removing names from your quotes to make it look like RB's nonsense was said by me (like you said), I'd really like to know why you're doing it.
BRBP wrote:
intentionally removing names from your quotes to make it look like RB's nonsense was said by me
BRBP wrote:
RB's nonsense
BRBP wrote:
RB
pieguy1372 wrote:
inb4 Qua + RB scumteam
pieguy1372 wrote:
I checked your previous posts and apparently you like to remove names from quotes, so maybe you weren't trying to scumpaint with that. You shouldn't do that, though...also, if you were serious. that is an incredibly weak and easily caught way of scumpainting people that no one would ever do it ever ever ever
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. every single post you made
2.Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.there were others just too lazy to find more
3. you didn't respond at all to my last post on D1/N1. not explicitly a question but still something that needs a response, so it's the same idea..
How does it not count? Is it really just a filler then? Okay we will consider it a filler! Few questioning later, you then started saying "gut feeling gut feeling gut feeling"pieguy1372 wrote:
..
RB I can't tell if you're serious or trolling
or just mafia
if you're serious, you were referring to me just "going back" to gut feeling. that doesn't count cause at that point you hadn't questioned me using gut feeling. that was just one of the reasons I included with my vote, cause afaik we're supposed to include reasons with votes.
srsly, just give it up already. probably you're mad cause I called you out D1 and you're making up insane reasons and wrong logic to try to get me lynched instead. I voted you and you just completely caved. but it doesn't matter cause we're NL'ing anyway
if something happens N1 that puts you as town, I'll think about it differently
Check the bolded part.pieguy1372 wrote:
except I haven't even mentioned gut feeling except for when you ask what my initial reasons for voting you were or ask I elaborate on the reasons. which you've mentioned like 12 times instead of asking new questions
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.except my logic is actually sound, you're just making stuff up and repeating what you say over and over
3) Well okay then.......
...
all you can ever do is keep going back into your gut feeling argument
keep going backthen I asked you where and you only mentioned MY ORIGINAL VOTE. that's not "going back", it's "including reasoning with votes"
How is it not compared to yours when it's the exact god damn thing that you said? FLIP FLOP.pieguy1372 wrote:
1) Same as you. First it was my so called flip flop, then started saying im over reacting just because I'm questioning you even more and more because I'm not pleased with any of your answers.except my logic is actually sound, you're just making stuff up and repeating what you say over and over
lol what? Is there actually anything on that paragraph worth mentioning? This is what I readpieguy1372 wrote:
.......
no, just no. you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. that's complete BS and is just one of the reasons I'm accusing you
seriously, you literally used just half of my sentence to change the meaning of what I said. I don't care if I shouldn't use bold, that is just the worst argument I've seen ever
Raging Bull wrote:
So Tsukasa is either mystery role or VT (since more than likely bulletproof or deathproof is one shot).
@Q, did it specifically say that you visited Tsukasa? Or did you just get a "You are secret role now" from Kanye? If that's true, there is also a possibility of a roleblocker in this game.
Don't know about you guys, but
Vote:pieguy
all my posts are explaining why your logic sucks, it just sounds the same thing repeatedly cause you're saying the same thing repeatedlyRaging Bull wrote:
How is it not compared to yours when it's the exact god damn thing that you said? FLIP FLOP.
...SERIOUSLYRaging Bull wrote:
What else was there to read?
I bolded that part because you contradicted yourself.
except I haven't even mentioned gut feelingTHIS
except I haven't even mentioned gut feeling except for when you ask what my initial reasons for voting you were or ask I elaborate on the reasonsDOES NOT MEAN THE SAME THING AS THIS
nope, I've said this many times and you've not refuted it at all, cause it's just incorrectRaging Bull wrote:
I said you keep going back because you do. You keep mentioning gut feeling after every god damn time I questioned you more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more. and more.
sorry I forgotRaging Bull wrote:
And if you're talking about not answering question, then please why did not ignore quote 2. Explain why those quotes were misquoted. Unless you can't.
Read my post. How he got his read on Tanz is irrelevant.Questioning him was just trying to get towncred to me.just completely ignored the part where I mentioned how it was relevant trying to get people to not notice it
So I can say it backwards, why not use principles earlier than later? I don't think it benefits town to uphold information.I was asking why we can't scumhunt on D2 the same way we do on D1 with no information. this still includes scumhunting D1. you make it seem like it doesn't
He's using my "no lynch -> lynch" flip flop as an excuse when he actually did it himself "RB - > Calingo -> RB" flip flop vote.made it seem like my vote was an actual attempt to lynch someone instead of a vote to get him to explain his reasons, also made it seem like it's the same thing you're doing to try to get people to lynch me and not you
RB, why aren't you voting then?this post really makes no sense, he is already voting, and he's not even voting you..
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
name is necessary this time cause I have quotes from RBBRBP wrote:
RB, why aren't you voting then?
Afraid that I might flip scum and you'd be lynched next?
BRBP wrote:
That's a really bad move...Raging Bull wrote:
Also I don't care if you all vote for me, as long as you guys vote for him D3.
A townie has no reason to vote himself, and it won't make you any less scummy if you're willing to risk it like that. Lynching you doesn't prove pieguy is scum anyway...
Not that I'd mind, I'd vote you after pieguy anyway, lol.
Still, I'd rather lynch pieguy first...
@Mod, c'mon...
And here you are again... your argument makes no sense. What else was I supposed to do? I reviewed the thread again and got my own conclusions, thus my vote on Tanz. Also again - most of us are potential Mystery Roles tbh, Tanz is only different because he claimed. Not like that would stop me from voting a potential scum.Quaraezha wrote:
Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
Seriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.
and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.
so
Vote: Tsukasa
Double seriously?Tanzklaue wrote:
quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.
and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?
I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.
Vote: Quaraezha
