Okay, here's my case on Tanzklaue. Just so I don't forget...
Unvote: Quaraezha
Vote: Tanzklaue
The third quote I've technically already responded to. He didn't try to move the game along until specifically told to; he was perfectly content with keeping the conversation about the Lynch vs No Lynch deal.
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Quaraezha follows that second point much more clearly. He's done pretty much nothing this game but argue for no lynching. He's not trying to find scum at all, instead saying that mislynching won't give us any information at all. It sounds like an excuse not to scumhunt to me.
Unvote: Quaraezha
Vote: Tanzklaue
Tanzklaue wrote:
yep, the super-informative "hey we killed a town cop \o\" or the very cool "we got a vig today guyz!"...Tsukasa wrote:
You know...
We'd rather have a super informative mislynch than a no-dice No-lynch
I'm indifferent to both propositions at this point, my point about mystery vssecret role still stands, caligno's point about quara makes sense, farTOWNik is still town in my eyes, rantai aand caligno leans town, tsukasa leans scum, the rest is kind of null.
quara: I completly agree with everything caligno said, it really is scummy to push NL with things like "what if jester?".
tsukasa: heavily focusing on me out of a random vote, not addressing the right posts even at times, then all of a sudden going full attack mode on rantai, who brought up several good points, just rubs me in all the wrong spots. from your line of argumentation though, you seem to be aligned with caligno. either you are a obv scum or a much worse town than he is.
so yea, quaraxanyone and tsukasaxanyone are my both leads at this point, though I don't really think that both of them are scum. keep in mind that scum has daychat, so they can organise themselves pretty well. if something looks like it is out of character for one person, or if two people just agree (or disgree) too conveniently, then that might lead us to scum aswell.
Tanzklaue wrote:
2/3/4/whatever PRs can do more stuff than 1/2/3/whatever-1 PRs can do.CalignoBot wrote:
That will happen whether we lynch or not. I don't see why no lynching gives us more information from night actions than not.
on the other hand, a myslynch only gives us the bitter taste of "look what awesomeness we could've had in this night :/".
The bolded portions are are basically statements that we shouldn't lynch anyone because we MIGHT end up killing something powerful for us. This is fallacious and a very bad argument, as well as scummy since I've yet to see anything that indicates we would get close to any useful information from night actions. Relying on night actions in this game is absurd and we have no evidence of any kind that it will help us at all. We're literally gambling on our night actions getting information that likely won't even be very useful to us. Saying that we shouldn't lynch because we MIGHT stop that limited information we can get from night actions is very weak and not something I can see from town.Tanzklaue wrote:
reason for that is that we are atm discussing if we no lynch or if we lynch someone.CalignoBot wrote:
I'm really not liking all the sheeping of my Quaraezha points, yet no one acting on them. This looks like scum positioning.
The third quote I've technically already responded to. He didn't try to move the game along until specifically told to; he was perfectly content with keeping the conversation about the Lynch vs No Lynch deal.
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Quaraezha follows that second point much more clearly. He's done pretty much nothing this game but argue for no lynching. He's not trying to find scum at all, instead saying that mislynching won't give us any information at all. It sounds like an excuse not to scumhunt to me.
