xChippy wrote:

Hihi~ M4M from my queue >w<

General
All fine~
Really nice map you have here thank u :3

Normal
I'll just be really nazi here lol =w= it's already very good imo >w< lolol
01:42:772 (2) - 179|108 fixed
01:45:816 (1) - 256|248fixed
01:50:598 (5) - 378|80fixed
01:53:642 (3) - Maybe Align this with (1) end to make the triangle prettier :3? (You'll have to fix the spacing after this =w=) ok~ fixed

Hard
00:29:511 (4) - Looks better if you place it at 380|107 good, fixed
00:51:903 (8) - There should be another repeat imo. hmm... i know this is a 3/4 repeat part in main song's violin... i just make it a slider easier for catching rhythm... ok, I'll fix it :3
01:15:381 (1) - Remove this NC fits the music better imo hmm... actually it's an other modder suggest me nc here, but now i want to take urs. fixed and remove 00:54:511 (3) - 's nc as well :3

Insane
OD +1fixed
00:34:946 (1) - NC fixed
01:01:033 (6) - Don't really like how this looks, try to make them symm lol, sry idk what is "symm", u mean "symmetry"? hmm... that's just like that, actually i like slider's shape like this... maybe it's not the perfect fit here thou... let's see what other modders say... D:
01:34:077 (3) - Lower distance a little? its 9.00 here coz slider speed change to 0.5x here, actually it's 3.0x in distance just same to 01:33:641 (1,2) - . So don't worry about it, it's just a big jumping pattern. :3
01:37:990 (1) - Looks better this way imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/824740 oh no... look at 01:37:990 (1,2,3) - , u will see. btw, u really should redowload my map and take a look at my storyboard. :3

That's all for me >w<
Great map :3
(╯°□°)╯︵
Good Luck ^^

Nymph wrote:

第二个红线应该是114548

别的懒得说 改完走起


This map is so amazing that I can't say too much about it, the storyboard, hitsounds and stuff are just awesome that I can hardly know this is a 1st map by a new mapper. However, there seems to be some parts, we can call it, overmap. But it did feel nice during playing, and the hitsounds make them didn't feel awkward at all. So, let's give it a try.

bubbled.

DarkDunskin wrote:

I should have returned earlier to map a Taiko for this map dangit :/

Scorpiour wrote:

irc mod log

the map is pretty well made and impressive sb work.

the only issue left now is the timing that still need to confirm, don't worry :>

SPOILER

02:38 Scorpiour: 1
02:39 Hollow Wings: ok了~
02:40 Scorpiour: 别急
02:40 Scorpiour: 着急睡觉去么。。？
02:40 Hollow Wings: 不着急
02:40 Hollow Wings: 慢慢来吧~
02:40 Scorpiour: Audio Lead-in放回到0，感觉前面有点长了
02:41 Scorpiour: 全diff的
02:42 Hollow Wings: 网实在太破
02:42 Hollow Wings: 我可能会不时掉一下线。。。所以可能有正好没看到你说的话的情况出现，见谅一下哦QVQ
02:42 Scorpiour: Audio Lead-in放回到0，感觉前面有点长了<--有收到?
02:42 Scorpiour: 看到的就给我回一句
02:42 Hollow Wings: 没收到，我现在去改
02:42 Hollow Wings: 好
02:45 Scorpiour: 00:29:511 - 这里我倾向于加一个note，放在398:134
02:45 Scorpiour: 看下效果
02:47 Hollow Wings: 唔，那样的话干脆连着00:29:729 (4) - 一起甩出去比较好吧？
02:47 Hollow Wings: 感觉也顺手一点？
02:47 Scorpiour: 也可以
02:47 Hollow Wings: 好的
02:47 Scorpiour: 向右上拉出去
02:47 Hollow Wings: 嗯
02:48 Scorpiour: 00:40:164 (1) - 直觉上停在白线上会更舒服一点……吗估计弄起来会比较麻烦所以你自己决定把只是个小建议:>
02:49 Hollow Wings: 这个地方很多人都跟我说过，我也改了很多次。。。不过我觉得现在这样是最好的节奏了
02:50 Scorpiour: ok
02:50 Hollow Wings: 好了吗，别的diff不需要看吗
02:51 Scorpiour: 还没完
02:51 Scorpiour: 别急。。。
02:51 Scorpiour: 01:05:381 (3) - 这里
02:51 Scorpiour: 如果是我的话我会把这个放在(7)的那里
02:51 Scorpiour: 284:176
02:52 Hollow Wings: 唔，这个折返的梗整个高潮都有。。。
02:52 Hollow Wings: 我想统一都是这个样子的0.0
02:53 Scorpiour: 我明白，只是建议试下，把后面7放到300:64，把这个放到原先7的位置，如果你自己觉得舒服就改一下，不喜欢跳过即可
02:57 Hollow Wings: 又掉了QVQ
02:57 Hollow Wings: 关于01:05:381 (3) - 那里还有7
02:57 Scorpiour: 恩？
02:57 Hollow Wings: 我觉得还是不改吧
02:57 Hollow Wings: 因为这个梗后面接滑条都不是大跳
02:57 Scorpiour: 这没所谓啦纯属建议自己拿捏
02:57 Hollow Wings: 想统一一下
02:57 Hollow Wings: 好的~
02:57 Hollow Wings: 跟你说一下
02:58 Scorpiour: 恩
02:58 Scorpiour: 必须要改的东西你不想改我也会逼你弄的www
02:58 Hollow Wings: wwww
02:58 Scorpiour: Insane
02:59 Scorpiour: 00:57:772 (3) - 这个滑条“听起来不舒服”，尾巴压在了鼓点重音上而略过了00:58:207 - 的音
02:59 Hollow Wings: insane，嗯
02:59 Scorpiour: 如果可能的话我会期待这样的节奏，稍等截图
02:59 Hollow Wings: 好，等你截图
02:59 Scorpiour: http://puu.sh/3lDMn.jpg
03:00 Scorpiour: (3)缩短到红线，然后从长白线拉一个滑条出来
03:00 Hollow Wings: 嗯，我看一下
03:00 Scorpiour: 可以考虑的排列：
03:00 Scorpiour: http://puu.sh/3lDO8.jpg
03:01 Hollow Wings: 我明白了，确实感觉不错
03:01 Scorpiour: 恩
03:01 Scorpiour: 如果改的话注意音效别丢了
03:02 Hollow Wings: 嗯嗯
03:02 Scorpiour: 01:02:772 (1) - 这里
03:02 Scorpiour: 把这个向后挪动1/2放到01:02:990 -
03:02 Scorpiour: 然后
03:02 Scorpiour: 01:02:772 - 加note叠到slider头，NC相应移动
03:03 Scorpiour: 音效在01:02:772 - 保留Finish+Clap,01:02:990 - 只留finish
03:03 Scorpiour: 试试看？
03:04 Scorpiour: 这种地方我个人会更倾向于使用切分音来让节奏的变化感多一些而不是使用1/1的slider
03:04 Hollow Wings: 嗷，如果这样改的话我想把滑条的形状变了，而且别让它和1叠在一起
03:04 Scorpiour: 这随意
03:05 Hollow Wings: 这样跳过去也算有个缓冲，直接stack感觉很奇怪
03:05 Hollow Wings: 嗯
03:05 Scorpiour: 重点是节奏，排列相对比较随意一些
03:05 Hollow Wings: 好的
03:05 Scorpiour: 01:05:381 (1,2,3) - 这里也类似，比较倾向于note->slider->note的切分音节奏，而不是slider->note->note
03:05 Scorpiour: 你自己可以试试看然后决定怎么弄
03:07 Hollow Wings: 哦哦
03:07 Hollow Wings: 那这边的改动会有点大呢
03:07 Scorpiour: 没事
03:07 Scorpiour: 所以说自己决定
03:08 Hollow Wings: 我把2拖到1前面去，位置也改一下吧
03:08 Scorpiour: 我认为这2个节奏可以比较明显的提升质量，不过没有到非改不可的程度
03:08 Scorpiour: 嗯
03:08 Hollow Wings: 嗯，跟你说一下怎么改
03:08 Hollow Wings: 好的
03:08 Scorpiour: 改好后给我发截图就可以
03:08 Scorpiour: 你改你的我看有问题会直接和你说
03:09 Hollow Wings: 好的
03:12 Scorpiour: Hard和Normal没什么问题
03:12 Hollow Wings: http://puu.sh/3lEa9
03:13 Hollow Wings: 你看这样行吗
03:13 Hollow Wings: 好的~
03:13 Scorpiour: 应该可以
03:13 Scorpiour: 等下我还要confirm一下timing
03:13 Hollow Wings: 1是307,156
03:13 Hollow Wings: 嗯，我再改一下前面那里
03:17 Hollow Wings: http://puu.sh/3lEhm.jpg
03:17 Hollow Wings: 前面我改成了这样
03:17 Scorpiour: 恩……
03:17 Scorpiour: 有个问题现在
03:17 Scorpiour: timing好像有点不准…………
03:17 Hollow Wings: 是吗0.0
03:17 Scorpiour: 我自己初测-12....
03:17 Hollow Wings: 是整个timing吗
03:18 Scorpiour: 恩…………
03:18 Scorpiour: 别急…………
03:18 Hollow Wings: 唔，好，那我等你的结果
03:26 Scorpiour: 稍等下吧我需要找人确认
03:26 Hollow Wings: 好的QVQ
03:39 Scorpiour: 嗯…………你先更新一下吧

Scorpiour wrote:

confirmed, -12ms to first uninherited timing point, please fix that in All Diffs and ensure the snapping. Call me back when you finish all :>

edit : rebubbled~

rezoons wrote:

Go rank ^^

Gloria Guard wrote:

well...


I don't know this timing point.. why red line volume 100% and add green line volume down 20%?

i think it is remove imo.

ampzz wrote:

How the heck was this even remotely close to rankable as there are a LOT issues with the mapset... including the biggest one which was incorrect timing.

Requested mod as given in my modding queue.

GeneralWhy is the difficulty spread so poor? It's a low BPM song so explain how you could only make a N, I, I, I spread? It should have been quite simple to produce an Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane spread... no, its just N, H, I, I mapset

Seriously, shouldn't the BATs have been picking on this fact alone?

Offset is out by 4, should be 2330 instead for the first point. In actual fact you're missing out on a BPM change at the end completely as it changes from 138 > 134 > 123... bat had checked the timing, and there's no problem with it

Timing

Note: All of these mods are after the timing correction has been implemented.

NormalWhy does this have so many overlapping patterns considering this is supposed to be the easiest difficulty of the set... Your comboing makes little sense as well. this is normal diff and where is overlapping

1. 00:08:416 (2) - This and every other slider you have within this map; why do you map over the stanzas? There isn't enough emphasis on it by having a slider end here. I'm not going to point out all of these since you should be able to go through the difficulty and change their arrangement yourself as they are quite frequent. i can't see any problem thou
2. 00:23:199 (1) - Same reason as above, you're mapping over a highly audible downbeat which fairly audible stanza and then have the slider itself end completely inaudible? Shrink this by 2 white ticks and actually place circles on the remaining ticks that are free afterwards. i follow the violin and this is a queit part as well, but i'll consider turning the volume up
3. 00:26:677 (1,2) - Same as (00:08:416), you've gone and mapped this in an unintuitive way such that the actual tone which players should be tapping isn't available to play. Same as (00:08:416)
   
   SPOILER

   00:26:677 (3) - Circle. nope
   00:27:112 (4) - 1/1 slider.
   00:27:982 (5) - Circle.
   00:28:416 (1) - 1/1 slider.
4. 00:41:895 - Why is this beat not mapped? Makes little sense that it isn't. that's the hitsound style maybe, why i need to add all of the song's beat even in normal diff? thou, i'll take some of ur suggesion
5. 00:54:069 (1) - Wouldn't have even bothered with placing a circle here at all and just let the players start from the next stanza. ???
6. 00:54:938 - Remove NC. actually i don't think there's any nc problem with this diff, reject all nc suggestion as well, sry D:
7. 00:58:416 (3) - Make this into a 2/1 lengthed slider.
8. 00:59:721 - This should have been the NC instead.
9. 01:01:025 - Remove NC, there is nothing here that demands the use of one.
10. 01:02:329 - NC here instead.
11. 01:09:721 - Again, why are beats just completely missing for?
12. 01:14:938 - Considering the rhythm you have been mapping, this should have been a circle or
13. 01:19:286 (3,1,2) - Same as the previous section aforementioned.
14. 01:29:721 (3,4,5) - Just swap these out for a 2/1 slider, sounds really plain and boring playing the 1/1 mapped notes here. hmm, i think it's more borning playing hmm, this is good, fixed.
15. 01:35:373 - Another missing beat?
16. 01:35:808 - Remove NC.
17. 01:36:243 - NC here instead.
18. 01:37:982 - Remove NC.
19. 01:38:851 - NC here instead.
20. 01:36:243 (2,2) - Another random overlap section that would be confusing for beginners.
21. 01:41:460 (1,2) - Just no, almost any beginning player would screw reading this up instantly.
22. 01:44:069 - NC here.
23. 01:45:373 - Another missing beat.
24. 01:45:808 - Remove NC.
25. 01:46:677 - NC here.
26. 01:48:416 - Remove NC.
27. 01:49:286 - NC here.

Hit me up when you've done all of this and I'll do the other difficulties as they all need work done to them.

lolcubes wrote:

I can't time well currently, but I can see it's off. that's all right, i'm just waiting for timing checking :3

First offset is good (2326), but you're missing more of them.
01:53:195 - BPM 132
01:54:558 - BPM 126
01:56:008 - Metronome reset. all of these were fixed, resnaped objs and moved green line as well, thank u :3

Generally, all of the hitsounds are too quiet. They sound nice but it's not really good to play with. You are creating a map that is supposed to be played, so you need louder hitsounds. is that so? sry for that, and already fixed hitsound issues by turning up the volume everywhere. D:

01:43:086 - silencing slider ends in this manner is not rankable. Since you are already overmapping to add to the music, make them audible. If you are overmapping to add to the music and then silencing hitsounds, you are doing it wrong. This is not allowed, sorry. do u mentioned the sliders here in insane diff? i thouhgt they're 3/4 sliders together so i made the hitsounds silence at their ends... alright, already fixed this. D:

I have to pop this over timing. I don't have time for rechecks currently, so if possible try to find someone else, sorry. ;_; OvQ
I might check it somewhere next week if noone gets to it though. as a newbie mapper i should say that i'm so poor in timing, thx for ur timing and modding~ i hope there's no problem with my map when bats recheck this, with rebubbling supposing :3

Light Usagi wrote:

wow, it has SB now, cool

and the background is always getting darker each time I made a visit

wcx19911123 wrote:

as your request, no kd plz
the current timing is fine to me(maybe offset need to +3~5, tiny thing)
btw, it seems lolcubes haven't time to finish his rechecking, I can help him to handle this if you don't mind

Hollow Wings wrote:

wcx19911123 wrote:

as your request, no kd plz
the current timing is fine to me(maybe offset need to +3~5, tiny thing)
btw, it seems lolcubes haven't time to finish his rechecking, I can help him to handle this if you don't mind

hmm, so is this map ready for rebubble or even rank? idk what to do next to get forward... just waiting some bat noticed this? or can u rebubble this right now? 0.0

Chloe wrote:

I think it meaned rebub will coming soon 0.0
Gl to rank it.

OnosakiHito wrote:

Amazing drawing for a nice song, and good maps.
Have a star from me.
Too bad there is no Taiko... if you should be interested in having one, you may contact me.

OnosakiHito wrote:

Amazing drawing for a nice song, and good maps.
Have a star from me.
Too bad there is no Taiko... if you should be interested in having one, you may contact me.

ts8zs wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

Amazing drawing for a nice song, and good maps.
Have a star from me.
Too bad there is no Taiko... if you should be interested in having one, you may contact me.

It's too late:3
I want make one too:3

CoroQuetz wrote:

Artist should be 'U2'

p3n wrote:

Great job with the SB. Have a star!


also: Cubsey why is this still popped?

Nymph wrote:

Delete the unused osb file during irc mod.

seems lolcubes have a computer sound card problem recently and he can't take care of this map. and the mapper got his permission for other bat to take care of this, so here is your rebubble. Thanks for your patience.

Hollow Wings wrote:

Nymph wrote:

Delete the unused osb file during irc mod.

seems lolcubes have a computer sound card problem recently and he can't take care of this map. and the mapper got his permission for other bat to take care of this, so here is your rebubble. Thanks for your patience.

thx for rebubbling. love u~ OVQ

1. Hard : 01:10:804 (4,7) - I'd put New Combo on these two because spacing could be tricky without it somehow :3
2. HW'' : Is it intentional that you used 1/12 on 00:54:065 (9) here? Just quite confused because you don't use it anywhere else (01:14:934 (9) is 1/8, for example)
3. Also on every 1/8 and that 1/12 slider you used on Insane and HW diff, consider reducing it by 1 repeat so that the player won't combobreak easily (1/8 repeating slider + circle 1/8 after is usable, yes, but can be very frustating orz... Better give 1/4 space~)

Niva wrote:

Hi there! Just wondering why don't you use あきやまうに as well also as ArtistUnicode? Also there's few things I'd like to note though:
the artist problem is that idk if あきやまうに is the real name of him, but i think i still should change the artistunicode into "あきやま うに". yes u r right

1. Hard : 01:10:804 (4,7) - I'd put New Combo on these two because spacing could be tricky without it somehow :3 ok i'll fix this
2. HW'' : Is it intentional that you used 1/12 on 00:54:065 (9) here? Just quite confused because you don't use it anywhere else (01:14:934 (9) is 1/8, for example) hmm, maybe it's a question indeed. but i made this map by FEELING, i think map's beats in this part is before the kiai, and should get a hasty rhythm. I'm still newbie and idk if this is acceptble, so if it must be fixed, plz reply thou D:
3. Also on every 1/8 and that 1/12 slider you used on Insane and HW diff, consider reducing it by 1 repeat so that the player won't combobreak easily (1/8 repeating slider + circle 1/8 after is usable, yes, but can be very frustating orz... Better give 1/4 space~)actually this suggestion had mentioned by other modders before, but i insist the 1/8 space coz it make a compact rhythm feeling better to hear it, and also for most people even pro it's not a difficult work to fc this song without any missed combo in Insane and HW'' diff with 1/8 space between these repeating slider and circles follow them which are close to them as well. So thx for ur suggestion but i think this is just fine. :3

Umm, finally I'm a bit confused about the artist as well (this video refers the artist as U2 but I also found this), do you/someone else have any reference about this one? :3
the song in first video is same to my map's song made by U2, the second song is collected in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody ORIGINAL SOUND TRACK as an arranged song in its extra arranged disc, and it's not appeared in th10.5 and th12.3 games' musicroom. u can see some data here, it's made by U2 as well. They're just have same name, but different songs entirely, which is common in touhou songs right? :3

The link you mentioned wrote:

Uni Akiyama (あきやま うに, Akiyama Uni), pen-name U2 or U2 Akiyama

1. I've experienced how frustrating 1/8 myself, in my own map, got combobreak soooo often argh... Well again it's not unrankable, up to you (:
2. About 1/12, I get your reasonings but personally I think it would be too much (1/8 as you did in Hard would be enough)

Niva wrote:

Yes あきやまうに is just 'Akiyama Uni' written in Japanese orz :3 (well yeah just remembered 2 is spelled 'ni' in Japanese, and because the wiki link listed 'あきやまうに' as artist and no official English name plus
yes, "U2" can be read as "uni" in jp as well, so "akiyama uni" is same to "akiyama U2".
all in all, i'll use "あきやま うに" as the artistunicode, it feels better. thx for ur suggestion! :3

The link you mentioned wrote:

Uni Akiyama (あきやま うに, Akiyama Uni), pen-name U2 or U2 Akiyama

...I suppose artist should be fine, yeah)

About the other two:

1. I've experienced how frustrating 1/8 myself, in my own map, got combobreak soooo often argh... Well again it's not unrankable, up to you (: hmm... actually that's not a impossible pattern, and can be seen in other maps either. (if u don't want to have a miss at the sliders' ends, as a player within #1000, i can suggest u click the circle after these kind of repeating sliders by the other finger rather than the finger u still holding the slider, it can't miss any combo unless the circle after is too far away from the slider. :3) so i don't want to have change these sliders. thx for ur suggestion anyway :3
2. About 1/12, I get your reasonings but personally I think it would be too much (1/8 as you did in Hard would be enough) in the Insane diff i still use 1/6 get a progressive rhythm, so... i really love this part, just wanna keep it OVQ

...umm, yeah, I can rebubble this ofc, why not ._.
coz last time bat poped my bubble and didn't recheck for a long time, i'm afraid of that as a newbie thou OVQ

Niva wrote:

EDIT : Seems like you're very firm with your decision, here's the rebubble then - good luck with this map :3

Rebubbled ~