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Lybydose
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Nomination: Triplet Streams

These are basically three circles mapped in a row at 1/4, but not stacked in the same location. Often mapped in groups (simply because that's how the music generally flows) like in the examples, but this isn't always the case.

Examples:
KOTOKO - Princess Bride!
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ALI PROJECT - Seishoujo Ryouiki (TV size)
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ZUN - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (because using your own maps as examples is what the cool kids are doing, right?!)
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Wizard Of Orz
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isn't that basically constant spacing
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supergarlic wrote:

isn't that basically constant spacing
The point is, there are many 1/4 triplets in succession forming some sort of pattern.

If you leave DS on your entire map you're probably going to get "constant spacing".
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Lybydose
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Derekku Chan wrote:

I would call those "triplet streams".
Yeah that's probably better.
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I nominate 1/2 duplet stack streams.

Fucking annoying shits.
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Seconding duplets <3
Vanmonky
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I meant, how to make some circles stack like this :
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Not like this :
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I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
m980
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The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
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VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
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JarJarJacob wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
did you mean "rarely stack"?

m980 wrote:

The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
Don't care whether it's rankable or not :lol: . That's a really great technique which I must know how to do!
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VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
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Shinxyn wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
THAT'S IT!! YOU ARE AWESOME!!
NICE! :P
Thanks for the info! I love you, seriously, love you!!
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Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
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I was just gonna talk about that stacking trick, though I was going to talk about the kind of trick used in EBA's Highway Star (Sweatin' / Hard ROCK!!) and Ouendan 2's MUSIC HOUR (Insane, maybe Hard), both times in the chorus. What I mean is when they stack notes, but time them in such a fashion that you can't SEE when you hit--you just have to know. (It's FAR more annoying in Highway Star due to the weird rhythm, whereas MUSIC HOUR is just on the beat.) The reason for this is that there's a big point burst covering up the circle beneath it.

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.

(BTW: Just got Ouendan 1, totally noticing how much I would hate the Hard maps if they were on the big screen (aka computer screen). Interesting, no?)
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FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
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I think leaving notes unstacked is okay if there's enough time between them for the latter note to reasonably be considered separate.
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Derekku Chan wrote:

FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
That doesn't answer my question...:|
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FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
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strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
You dare contradict God?

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
peppy was talking about stacked notes with zero stacking enabled.

FerreTrip was talking about stacked notes where the hitburst covers the next approach circle (like 1/1 or 2/1 stacks)
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Oh.

The Engrish in this thread got me lost.
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[Nomination]
Description: "Back and forth" beats that are spaced a grid or two apart and keep spacing out.
Example: Lucky [EEeee's Hard] @ 00:15:07
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FFF stack anyone? :[
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Sousei wrote:

FFF stack anyone? :[
:) :) :)
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peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
But, this --> viewtopic.php?t=7252
and this --> viewtopic.php?t=6297

These beatmaps using the trick and they are ranked. When was the rule implemented?
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Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
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VanMoNky wrote:

Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
If notes are obviously unstacked where they should be, it's unrankable.
rust45
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Name: Parallel Sliders.
Description: A group of sliders that are all parallel to each other, the slider starts may or may not be next to the ends and they may go any direction.

Image Examples(Warning, multiple images) :
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From Nharox's The City is At War map, see how all the slider starts are at the same level.

From my Animaniacs map, see how they are diagonal rather then straight.

I was getting lazy at getting another example but this shows the starting points being right next to the slider ends, making it not a jump anymore.

Jesus Christ that was a bit too much, but I hope you get my point.
m980
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KC is doing a wonderful job making the rating threads.

If anyone else does it he'll yell at us : (
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No idea how dead these rating topics are but regardless, I'd like to nominate a technique that I especially like.

Slider Trains

A bunch of short sliders one after the other I guess, no other real way to explain it in words.

Example pictures:

From bubbles - F (Insane)


From Karen - Distorted Pain (Insane)


From dj TAKA - V2 (Another)
Derekku
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ahh I <3 slider trains
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I actually thought of adding what I call Slider Fans Tuesday, but I forgotted. =X
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Alright, I edited my post to call them FFF Stacks. (Though I should look at a map first...)
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Sorry for not updating in a while. My computer's hard drive got wiped and that combined with random freezing has slowed me down. Therefore I'll let any BAT post/update the polls from now on. (just keep my format, please)
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Why hasn't anyone made a new topic? I'm waiting for discussion.
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Because no BAT was willing to take up cobra's offer, apparently.
Card N'FoRcE
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Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)
Who said other mappers can't use it, though?

And who said a technique changes depending on the mapper?
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how about 'Back, Forth, Forth' formation? this is it.

(note : The song in the picture doesn't really have that streams, I just created the example.

Lybydose
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Nomination:

Windmill Sliders

A series of sliders (usually four in a row) which all originate from a shared center point, making the pattern look like a windmill blade. The sliders may not necessarily be curved, which can instead form a + or X design.

Feel Good Inc. is an obvious example because they show up in sync with the "windmill" lyrics.
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Floating Darkness - I edited the map slightly to produce a better screen shot
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
Weren't Etna sliders basically an awp creation, but now they're common? And even if he wasn't the first, someone was.

Edit: See, I knew I wasn't the one who came up with "Seibei style anti-jumps". They're in, like, every FFFanatic map. Both kinds.
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Nomination:

Wiggle Sliders

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Examples are from The Great Don Paolo by me and MetalMario's Space Oddity

These are one (or two on a fast song like the first screen) beat long sliders in a "wiggle" shape where it curves in one direction then the opposite direction. They're used to be a little more interesting than a regular straight slider.
mm201
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Integral sign. ∫ydx

Or the slits on a violin.

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
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again those sliders are just a slider shape really
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MetalMario201 wrote:

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
Same.

I think of those as "S" sliders, not "wiggle" sliders.
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Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
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"Hold Sliders" (Could use a better name...)

Sliders where the bpm isn't just 0.5x, but 0.25x or 0.125x (with new red timing panels on each side). Usually the mouse doesn't have to be moved, but its confusing sometimes when the maps pace is fast...
Used to match the music though, not the map's pace.

Djpop uses this quite a bit.

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fartownik wrote:

Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
Do you mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" (Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5346) or Speed Up as in "there's one slider here that's really fast, but everything else is normal" (DJPop style. Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5255).
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Lybydose wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
Do you mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" (Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5346) or Speed Up as in "there's one slider here that's really fast, but everything else is normal" (DJPop style. Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5255).
I mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" :P
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fartownik wrote:

I mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" :P
Like how I've done in several maps?
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Small example.
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Sudden spacing change like this?

For the above examples, I call them "Chaser Formations," since you have to kind've "Chase" after them. Speaking of which, I had originally had these in my Insane for "Sexy Vampire" but Cyclone said it made the map too hard =(

I think I'll put them back in, just with less distance between them. >_>
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Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

Speaking of which, I had originally had these in my Insane for "Sexy Vampire" but Cyclone said it made the map too hard =(
>=[

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

I think I'll put them back in
\o/

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

just with less distance between them. >_>
>=[
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Nominations wrote:

"Name Pending"
These should definitely be called Golden Arches

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Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

0_o wrote:

These should definitely be called Golden Arches

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lol'd

I also say we call them Golden Arches.

For the lulz!
XD
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Shinxyn wrote:

"Hold Sliders" (Could use a better name...)

Sliders where the bpm isn't just 0.5x, but 0.25x or 0.125x (with new red timing panels on each side). Usually the mouse doesn't have to be moved, but its confusing sometimes when the maps pace is fast...
Used to match the music though, not the map's pace.
I second this. I don't have images at the moment due to being on the laptop, but Imogen Heap - Just for Now uses them, as well, in some respects. I also find myself using this technique when mapping slow songs (IE when I map most things I like).
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mm201
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Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi! :) I want to nominate these 2 techniques:


~Square formations~

A bunch of hitcircles that form a square shape, usually with a short spacing between them.
These are Flower Combos of order 4.
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Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
It's making an 1/2 slider, copy paste it while turning it verticly and horizantly, and then going on (with a circle or slider) on the beginning of the first slider.

Maps:
Perfume - Wonder2 [Gladi]
The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Jacques LuCont's Thin White Duke Remix) [Gladi's Hard]
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Gladi wrote:

Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
Maybe we could call them Switchback sliders? I dunno
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Gladi wrote:

Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
It's making an 1/2 slider, copy paste it while turning it verticly and horizantly, and then going on (with a circle or slider) on the beginning of the first slider.
That's because overlap sucks.

Nominating honeycomb beats. (Credit goes to m980 for the name.)

Basically, take a bunch of hitcircles, each a 1/2 apart, then arrange them on a hexagonal grid with a confusing (but spaced) order. You need to look at the approach circles or the numbers to figure out where you're going to next because otherwise, there are as many as five possible choices!

Examples:
Billy Fogarty - Jumpin' Jack Flash [Sweatin' / Hard ROCK!]
La Roux - Bulletproof [MetalMario's Hard]

Screenshots:
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Honeycomb beats suck on low OD.

Suck.
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I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
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m980 wrote:

I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
I think you have problems.
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m980 wrote:

I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
QFT.

I'm a just leave this here:
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I fucking hate those things, they are the reason why I can't beat Jumpin Jack Flash on Sweatin on EBA.
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/me SS'd JJF on sweatin' (DS)
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I need HR to pass it. =]=]
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omg I LOVE honeycomb beats

++++support
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Honeycomb beats for me is the texhnique I love to hate. Or, more accurately, hate to love. Support.
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I'm going narcissist here and nominate a technique I often use (and often get hated about).

I'm naming it Oibon Jumps. Oibon is a type of Japanese food, which had a parody in Taiko no Tatsujin wherein you can get enough gas from eating it and fart your way up to the top of Mt. Fuji, or rather emulating super-hyper-OKNFOKD-jumping. And for the fact that I first used it in a Taiko song.

This technique is simple but annoying to play with: two notes that are usually 1/2 apart, but end up being on opposite sides of the screen, hence an enormous jump. This is usually the product of copy-paste + flipping, but at times this can be utilized to full-effect on bumpy songs.

Found in maps:
Taiko no Tatsujin - Kumo Made Todoke [Oni]
Taiko no Tatsujin - Brouken Hiyori [Oni]
Paramore - That's What You Get [Hard]

Examples:
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I'd like to nominate Post-spinner Notes

It's basically a note or series of notes directly after a long spinner at the end of the beatmap.
(And trust me, it catches some people of guard, who think that long spinners = end of beatmap)

Examples:
Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu [Uninstall]
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Tomohito Nishiura - Deserted Amusement Park [Mysterious]
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Iwadare Noriyuki - Meta Knight's Revenge [Bridge]
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http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3191 this one is a very good example for the post spinner note. it catches "everyone" at first try
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Post-spinner notes

I hate them with all of my soul.

seriously, I wish I could slap everyone who uses those a lot in the face. :x
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CaptainFlameGuy wrote:

Post-spinner notes

I hate them with all of my soul.

seriously, I wish I could slap everyone who uses those a lot in the face. :x
*Gladi hides.
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Shouldn't we save the bashing and praising for when the topic is made?
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People, please read the rules for nominating.

A few of these nominations have NOT been linking a RANKED map with the technique, which is a pain to look for. All nominations without a link for a RANKED map will be IGNORED. (or probably put to the end of the queue until a ranked map link is posted)
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Square formations, eh?

Nominating Modified Square Formations.

Take a square formation but rearrange the order of notes such that at least one pair of notes are joined diagonally.

Examples:
  1. Laura Jane - La La [Sweatin'] (iNiS)
  2. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Nights in Blue [Normal] (MetalMario201)
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Bah.

May as well have them grouped together (like anti-jumps)
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Cross Overlap Sliders
A slider that cuts through the previous slider to make a sort of cross shape.


Owl City - Cave In
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11272
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Shinxyn wrote:

"Hold Sliders" (Could use a better name...)

Sliders where the bpm isn't just 0.5x, but 0.25x or 0.125x (with new red timing panels on each side). Usually the mouse doesn't have to be moved, but its confusing sometimes when the maps pace is fast...
Used to match the music though, not the map's pace.

Djpop uses this quite a bit.
t+pazolite - Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate!(Xtreme)

:?
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NoHItter wrote:

t+pazolite - Luv-Lab-Poison 22ate!(Xtreme)

:?
Hold slider are kinda fun to make when it fits :D
Lethal uses it too at the same place (At 01:48:709)

IOSYS - Kyuukyoku Yakiniku Restaurant! Orin no Jigokutei! [Insane] was the one Shinxyn used as picture example.

Also, why isn't Speed Up (section) placed yet in the list og Current Nominations yet...
If you want another map that used it La Roux - Colourless Colour on panic and relaxed is an good example.

Also i call those solo speed sliders for "Hyper Sliders"
Example

Lybydose wrote:

Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5255
DJPop's diff
And Hyadain - HEAT!!! Vibty's Hard 01:05:832 (1,2) -

Also i would like to nominate Speed down :)
SMiLE.dk - Tokyo Hard and Normal after the second chorus.
Breaking Benjamin - Blow Me Away several places in Heroic and Legendary
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More examples of "Hyper Sliders":

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8955 verynezumi - Sound Test in Touhou (first sliders)
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/4305 Shinji Miyazaki - Gym Leader Battle (2 parallel sliders at the end of [Insane])

Some DJPop maps like http://osu.ppy.sh/s/414 Little Non - Aijou Education
alvisto
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alvisto
Hehe. It's been a while since someone nominate some mapping techinique. I would like to nominate 2 techniques that I personally very like to use and they are present in almost all my maps. xD

Nomination 1 : Finish Jump

Basically means a jump usually at the end of a combo/lyric to emphasize the "power" of that music part. Usually a triangle jump or horizontal jump, and it fits the music well. Used widely, and I am not sure whether it has been nominated before or not...

Picture example are from my map V -conclusion- and Maze, respectively...



Example :
gdeath uses quite a lot of this technique
eufonius - Wonder -> Challenging difficulty
Shimotsuki Haruka - Kyouri Haruka -> Hard difficulty

Alace too
(a lot of his maps use such technique)

And of course I used it in my maps too...
dj TAKA - V -conclusion- -> Another difficulty
Savage Genius feat. Oomi Tomoe - Maze

alvisto
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alvisto
Nomination 2 : Arch Jump

Well, the original typical linear arch jump.


Modified version of arch jump used in my map. *example, -V- conclusion*
This one is inverted/modified arch jump



Examples :
(lazy to find other examples, post my map here instead >.<"")
dj TAKA - V -conclusion- -> another difficulty


FishHook
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FishHook
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
When is the next thread going to be made?
m980
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m980
When I become unlazy.
YGOkid8
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YGOkid8
well, i'm sure that might be in a while then.
Zekira
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Zekira
I bet NoHItter's gonna bash me to no end though lol
Xgor
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Xgor
Square Formation v3
SPOILER
Frankmusik - 3 Little Words [DJ LaRTo] (used quite a lot in this difficulty)
Yusuke Takahama - X - Tunnel Scene [Insane] (At the end)
LOVERIN TAMBURIN - Aishitageru [Hard] (01:12:026 (2,3,4,5) )
Niko - NIGHT OF FIRE [Hard](I think 00:41:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) could be cosidred as a extended version of this Technique)
Yet another Square formation.
This is pretty much a regular Square formation but the second and third circle have changed places with eachother
RandomJibberish
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RandomJibberish
That's called a square formation v.2
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