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kingcobra52
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Since there's a new sub-forum now (Thanks Echo!), I decided that instead of posting nominations in the threads, they can be posted here. :)

In order to nominate a technique, you must have and post:
  1. (Optional) A name for the technique (it can be an official name or one you make up)
  2. An accurate description of the technique (or alternatively, a screenshot of the technique)
  3. A link to atleast 2 ranked maps that have the technique. (The specific point in the map would help too)
PLEASE! Bold the name of the nomination so it is easier for us to notice!

Please only nominate one technique at a time (can't have 2 techniques nominated by the same person in a row.)

Current Nominations:
49. Differential Stacks
50. Krisom-Krosses
51. Spiral Slider
52. Compressed Streams
53. Double Spinners

Nominations with Not Enough Ranked Examples:
54. Step-Too-Fars
55. Spider Sliders

Already Rated
1. Back and Forth Beats
2. Mirrored Sliders
3. "Half-Backing"
4. Etna Sliders
5. Reverse Zig-Zag Sliders
6. Triangle Beats
7. Short Repeating Sliders
8. Spacing Out (Patternmap)
9. The Kickstream
10. Blanket Combos
11. Zig-Zag Sliders (the normal kind)
12. Segment Sliders
13. ztrot Spacing
14. Accelerated Spacing
15. Anti-Jumps (SeibeiStyle)
15.5. Anti-Jumps
16. Flower Combo
17. Rainbow Sliders
18. Deathstreams
19. Orbital Sliders
20. Slider Art
21. Triplet Streams
22. Back-and-Forth v2
23. Slider Trains
24. Parallel Sliders
25. Windmill Sliders
26. Wave Sliders
27. Zig-Zag Streams
28. Square Formations
28.5. Square Formations v2
29. Switch-Back Sliders
30. Honeycomb Beats
31. Back-&-Forth Beats v3
32. Oibon Jumps
33. Post-Spinner Note
34. Cutting Sliders
35. Hooooooold Sliders
36. Tricky Triple Combo
37. Double Stacks
38. Tick-Hitsounds
39. Crumpled Sliders
40. Divebomb Combos
41. Pre-Spinner Notes
42. QQ Diamonds
43. Tornado Combos
44. Central Anti-Jumps
45. Star Formations
46. Drain Sections
47. End-Cutter Sliders
48. Endpoint Slider Jumps
Xgor
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Either you missed my suggestion or you thought it sucked but i post it again if it was becuse you missed it

Segment sliders

This technique is many sliders on a row (this technique is often used with Etna sliders) and when a slider ends the next slider is placed there.

0:46:612 on Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Normal] is a good example of that :)
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kingcobra52
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Xgor wrote:

Either you missed my suggestion or you thought it sucked but i post it again if it was becuse you missed it
You're right. I remember seeing it, but I forgot to add it. Sorry about that.
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im not sure if this is a clear picture but

Accelerated Spacing



The distans space between notes become further and further for every note on the time line. you can compare the red lines.

Amane - The Rain Came Pouring Down
Seibei4211
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Anti-jumps.

FFFanatic style:


And then the kind I sometimes use:


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0_o wrote:

I don't think there any point in nominating Blanket Combos since there really isn't any reason for anyone not to like them. Basically it'll be a bunch of 4's and 5's and comments on how professional and nice looking it is.

Also, another nomination

Flower Combo
Basically a combo shaped like this
_1_2
6_7_3
_5_4
or something similar (will get screenshot and example later today)
Alace's Hyper in Marie Antoinette
James' Bad Apple

etc.
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Two both used in Don't Stop Me Now, both involving sliders. The first is sort of "nesting" a circle in the curves of a slider:


And sliders sort of curving into each other:
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Behonkiss wrote:

Two both used in Don't Stop Me Now, both involving sliders.
pics
Current Nominations:
Blanket Combos
mm201
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Oh, sorry. Nominations have their own thread now.

MetalMario201 wrote:

I'd like to nominate Rainbow Sliders.



This is the name I give to the large, arc-shaped sliders which generally take up one half of the screen. Best used in places with long, climactic, held notes, sort of like spinners.

These are seen in 3oh!3 - Starstrukk and Dialga Palkia Battle, among other places. Very popular in EBA.
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I'd like to nominate this:

DJPop-Streams
- incredible long streams made of a combination of all kinds of sliders/hit circles.









Hatsune Miku- Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu
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MegaManEXE wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

I'd like to nominate this:

Mega DJPop Streams
- incredible long streams made of a combination of all kinds of sliders/hit circles.
Fixed that for you
Fixed
Card N'FoRcE
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It noticed when playing IKU - Ko no Me Kaze, but many other ranked maps have this kind of "mapping technique".
It consists of two (usually) mirrored sliders with a beat in between. Sliders may also have other shapes than curved.


(i took this screen at 0:24:112 of the map linked above)


(i took this at 0:49:910 of Gojou Kai - Border of Life )

Sorry, i don't know what kind of name to give it >.<

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Given that the hitcircle acts as the origin or central focus of the pattern, and the sliders float around it in orbit like some kind of orbital slider electrons, I'd call it...

also Mega DJPop Deathstreams - still, deathstreams would be an interesting topic, you'd get some good discussion/controversy/flaming/polar opposite arguments going on with that one. Like faceman said, Blanket Sliders would be a mass of 4s, 5s, and general praise since they're delightful and artistic in a good way.
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Pasonia wrote:

^

I thought the above is a common sight in the original games?

MetalMario201 wrote:

Very popular in EBA.
Ouendan1's variations tend to be more boomerang-shaped, whereas Ouendan2 likes to use closer to complete circles.

@awp: I use Orbital Electron Sliders all the time. Sort of a Blanket meets Mirror type thing.
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"Slider Art"
They're mostly pretty, but sometimes seems like its very hard to follow during play, so I wonder if players like how they're more focused on looks rather than how it plays.

Examples-
Hatsune Miku - Shooting Star
SPOILER
Hard to follow

Megurine Luka- Just Be Friends
SPOILER
The Common Heart shape, does it appeal?

Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You (not yet ranked)
SPOILER
Even Letters/Words
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The shooting star example is something of an ugly one (mad slider overlap, pretty much unrankable) but it's good to have both good and bad examples.
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Shinxyn wrote:

"Slider Art"
How could you have forgotten this map?
Derekku
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MetalMario201 wrote:

Shinxyn wrote:

"Slider Art"
How could you have forgotten this map?
Yeah, that's an awesome one.

@Shooting Star: I love that slider. I'm a big fan of overlapping/(currently) unrankable sliders, so <3
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Derekku Chan wrote:

Yeah, that's an awesome one.

@Shooting Star: I love that slider. I'm a big fan of overlapping/(currently) unrankable sliders, so <3
Me too, I've started trying to make cool stuff out of long sliders in my maps lately and so I can totally appreciate the time and effort that went into making that shooting star look so great, even if it might be kind of hard to follow :<
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I nominate the darrinub slider.
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Sousei wrote:

I nominate the darrinub slider.
omg yes plz

Darrinub slider



http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7832

Best mapping technique around ~
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I can't believe it.

I just added a Darrinub slider to a map I'm making.

o___o
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Sousei wrote:

I nominate the darrinub slider.
yes
Ekaru
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Just tried it myself. Wow. Why didn't I know of this earlier? ;_;

This has to be one of the funniest slider exploits out there. So awesome. I have a serious nomination I'll put up later, however.
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Ekaru wrote:

I have a serious nomination
You make it sound as if the Darrinub isn't serious.

>_>
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There's no technique about stacking notes which occur at the very same location?
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VanMoNky wrote:

There's no technique about stacking notes which occur at the very same location?
Eh, I really don't know if stacks would count as a "technique". They've been around since O1 and are used by almost everyone...
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Derekku Chan wrote:

Eh, I really don't know if stacks would count as a "technique". They've been around since O1 and are used by almost everyone...
Yet only a handful can use them efficiently without making their maps look like a clusterfuck. It's still a technique.
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Nomination: Triplet Streams

These are basically three circles mapped in a row at 1/4, but not stacked in the same location. Often mapped in groups (simply because that's how the music generally flows) like in the examples, but this isn't always the case.

Examples:
KOTOKO - Princess Bride!
SPOILER

ALI PROJECT - Seishoujo Ryouiki (TV size)
SPOILER

ZUN - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (because using your own maps as examples is what the cool kids are doing, right?!)
SPOILER


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isn't that basically constant spacing
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supergarlic wrote:

isn't that basically constant spacing
The point is, there are many 1/4 triplets in succession forming some sort of pattern.

If you leave DS on your entire map you're probably going to get "constant spacing".
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Derekku Chan wrote:

I would call those "triplet streams".
Yeah that's probably better.
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I nominate 1/2 duplet stack streams.

Fucking annoying shits.
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Seconding duplets <3
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I meant, how to make some circles stack like this :
SPOILER

Not like this :
SPOILER

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
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The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
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VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
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JarJarJacob wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
did you mean "rarely stack"?

m980 wrote:

The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
Don't care whether it's rankable or not :lol: . That's a really great technique which I must know how to do!
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VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
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Shinxyn wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
THAT'S IT!! YOU ARE AWESOME!!
NICE! :P
Thanks for the info! I love you, seriously, love you!!
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Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
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I was just gonna talk about that stacking trick, though I was going to talk about the kind of trick used in EBA's Highway Star (Sweatin' / Hard ROCK!!) and Ouendan 2's MUSIC HOUR (Insane, maybe Hard), both times in the chorus. What I mean is when they stack notes, but time them in such a fashion that you can't SEE when you hit--you just have to know. (It's FAR more annoying in Highway Star due to the weird rhythm, whereas MUSIC HOUR is just on the beat.) The reason for this is that there's a big point burst covering up the circle beneath it.

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.

(BTW: Just got Ouendan 1, totally noticing how much I would hate the Hard maps if they were on the big screen (aka computer screen). Interesting, no?)
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FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
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I think leaving notes unstacked is okay if there's enough time between them for the latter note to reasonably be considered separate.
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Derekku Chan wrote:

FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
That doesn't answer my question...:|
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FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
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strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
You dare contradict God?

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
peppy was talking about stacked notes with zero stacking enabled.

FerreTrip was talking about stacked notes where the hitburst covers the next approach circle (like 1/1 or 2/1 stacks)
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Oh.

The Engrish in this thread got me lost.
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[Nomination]
Description: "Back and forth" beats that are spaced a grid or two apart and keep spacing out.
Example: Lucky [EEeee's Hard] @ 00:15:07
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FFF stack anyone? :[
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Sousei wrote:

FFF stack anyone? :[
:) :) :)
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peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
But, this --> viewtopic.php?t=7252
and this --> viewtopic.php?t=6297

These beatmaps using the trick and they are ranked. When was the rule implemented?
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Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
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VanMoNky wrote:

Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
If notes are obviously unstacked where they should be, it's unrankable.
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Name: Parallel Sliders.
Description: A group of sliders that are all parallel to each other, the slider starts may or may not be next to the ends and they may go any direction.

Image Examples(Warning, multiple images) :
SPOILER

From Nharox's The City is At War map, see how all the slider starts are at the same level.

From my Animaniacs map, see how they are diagonal rather then straight.

I was getting lazy at getting another example but this shows the starting points being right next to the slider ends, making it not a jump anymore.

Jesus Christ that was a bit too much, but I hope you get my point.
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KC is doing a wonderful job making the rating threads.

If anyone else does it he'll yell at us : (
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No idea how dead these rating topics are but regardless, I'd like to nominate a technique that I especially like.

Slider Trains

A bunch of short sliders one after the other I guess, no other real way to explain it in words.

Example pictures:

From bubbles - F (Insane)


From Karen - Distorted Pain (Insane)


From dj TAKA - V2 (Another)
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ahh I <3 slider trains
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I actually thought of adding what I call Slider Fans Tuesday, but I forgotted. =X
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Alright, I edited my post to call them FFF Stacks. (Though I should look at a map first...)
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Sorry for not updating in a while. My computer's hard drive got wiped and that combined with random freezing has slowed me down. Therefore I'll let any BAT post/update the polls from now on. (just keep my format, please)
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Why hasn't anyone made a new topic? I'm waiting for discussion.
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Because no BAT was willing to take up cobra's offer, apparently.
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Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)
Who said other mappers can't use it, though?

And who said a technique changes depending on the mapper?
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how about 'Back, Forth, Forth' formation? this is it.

(note : The song in the picture doesn't really have that streams, I just created the example.

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Nomination:

Windmill Sliders

A series of sliders (usually four in a row) which all originate from a shared center point, making the pattern look like a windmill blade. The sliders may not necessarily be curved, which can instead form a + or X design.

Feel Good Inc. is an obvious example because they show up in sync with the "windmill" lyrics.
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Floating Darkness - I edited the map slightly to produce a better screen shot
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
Weren't Etna sliders basically an awp creation, but now they're common? And even if he wasn't the first, someone was.

Edit: See, I knew I wasn't the one who came up with "Seibei style anti-jumps". They're in, like, every FFFanatic map. Both kinds.
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Nomination:

Wiggle Sliders

SPOILER


Examples are from The Great Don Paolo by me and MetalMario's Space Oddity

These are one (or two on a fast song like the first screen) beat long sliders in a "wiggle" shape where it curves in one direction then the opposite direction. They're used to be a little more interesting than a regular straight slider.
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Integral sign. ∫ydx

Or the slits on a violin.

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
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again those sliders are just a slider shape really
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MetalMario201 wrote:

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
Same.

I think of those as "S" sliders, not "wiggle" sliders.
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