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mm201

Pasonia wrote:

^

I thought the above is a common sight in the original games?

MetalMario201 wrote:

Very popular in EBA.
Ouendan1's variations tend to be more boomerang-shaped, whereas Ouendan2 likes to use closer to complete circles.

@awp: I use Orbital Electron Sliders all the time. Sort of a Blanket meets Mirror type thing.
Shinxyn
"Slider Art"
They're mostly pretty, but sometimes seems like its very hard to follow during play, so I wonder if players like how they're more focused on looks rather than how it plays.

Examples-
Hatsune Miku - Shooting Star Hard to follow

Megurine Luka- Just Be FriendsThe Common Heart shape, does it appeal?

Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You (not yet ranked) Even Letters/Words
0_o
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awp
The shooting star example is something of an ugly one (mad slider overlap, pretty much unrankable) but it's good to have both good and bad examples.
mm201

Shinxyn wrote:

"Slider Art"
How could you have forgotten this map?
Derekku

MetalMario201 wrote:

Shinxyn wrote:

"Slider Art"
How could you have forgotten this map?
Yeah, that's an awesome one.

@Shooting Star: I love that slider. I'm a big fan of overlapping/(currently) unrankable sliders, so <3
MegaManEXE

Derekku Chan wrote:

Yeah, that's an awesome one.

@Shooting Star: I love that slider. I'm a big fan of overlapping/(currently) unrankable sliders, so <3
Me too, I've started trying to make cool stuff out of long sliders in my maps lately and so I can totally appreciate the time and effort that went into making that shooting star look so great, even if it might be kind of hard to follow :<
Sousei
I nominate the darrinub slider.
Lesjuh

Sousei wrote:

I nominate the darrinub slider.
omg yes plz

Darrinub slider



http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7832

Best mapping technique around ~
anonymous_old
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Aoitenshi
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anonymous_old
I can't believe it.

I just added a Darrinub slider to a map I'm making.

o___o
Wizard Of Orz

Sousei wrote:

I nominate the darrinub slider.
yes
Ekaru
Just tried it myself. Wow. Why didn't I know of this earlier? ;_;

This has to be one of the funniest slider exploits out there. So awesome. I have a serious nomination I'll put up later, however.
anonymous_old

Ekaru wrote:

I have a serious nomination
You make it sound as if the Darrinub isn't serious.

>_>
mm201
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anonymous_old
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Vanmonky
There's no technique about stacking notes which occur at the very same location?
Derekku

VanMoNky wrote:

There's no technique about stacking notes which occur at the very same location?
Eh, I really don't know if stacks would count as a "technique". They've been around since O1 and are used by almost everyone...
vytalibus

Derekku Chan wrote:

Eh, I really don't know if stacks would count as a "technique". They've been around since O1 and are used by almost everyone...
Yet only a handful can use them efficiently without making their maps look like a clusterfuck. It's still a technique.
Lybydose
Nomination: Triplet Streams

These are basically three circles mapped in a row at 1/4, but not stacked in the same location. Often mapped in groups (simply because that's how the music generally flows) like in the examples, but this isn't always the case.

Examples:
KOTOKO - Princess Bride!

ALI PROJECT - Seishoujo Ryouiki (TV size)

ZUN - Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke (because using your own maps as examples is what the cool kids are doing, right?!)


Wizard Of Orz
isn't that basically constant spacing
anonymous_old

supergarlic wrote:

isn't that basically constant spacing
The point is, there are many 1/4 triplets in succession forming some sort of pattern.

If you leave DS on your entire map you're probably going to get "constant spacing".
Derekku
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Lybydose

Derekku Chan wrote:

I would call those "triplet streams".
Yeah that's probably better.
anonymous_old
I nominate 1/2 duplet stack streams.

Fucking annoying shits.
Derekku
Seconding duplets <3
Vanmonky
I meant, how to make some circles stack like this :

Not like this :

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
m980
The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
Jarby

VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
Vanmonky

JarJarJacob wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

I really wanna know how to do that trick :o
Set stack leniency in song setup to never stack.
did you mean "rarely stack"?

m980 wrote:

The type of stacks you want to create are unrankable (They weren't unrankable a while back, which would explain any nonstacking in ranked maps.)
Don't care whether it's rankable or not :lol: . That's a really great technique which I must know how to do!
Shinxyn

VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
Vanmonky

Shinxyn wrote:

VanMoNky wrote:

did you mean "rarely stack"?
No, open the beatmap with notepad and change the stack leniency to 0
THAT'S IT!! YOU ARE AWESOME!!
NICE! :P
Thanks for the info! I love you, seriously, love you!!
peppy
Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
FerreTrip
I was just gonna talk about that stacking trick, though I was going to talk about the kind of trick used in EBA's Highway Star (Sweatin' / Hard ROCK!!) and Ouendan 2's MUSIC HOUR (Insane, maybe Hard), both times in the chorus. What I mean is when they stack notes, but time them in such a fashion that you can't SEE when you hit--you just have to know. (It's FAR more annoying in Highway Star due to the weird rhythm, whereas MUSIC HOUR is just on the beat.) The reason for this is that there's a big point burst covering up the circle beneath it.

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.

(BTW: Just got Ouendan 1, totally noticing how much I would hate the Hard maps if they were on the big screen (aka computer screen). Interesting, no?)
Derekku

FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
mm201
I think leaving notes unstacked is okay if there's enough time between them for the latter note to reasonably be considered separate.
FerreTrip

Derekku Chan wrote:

FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
osu! is not an authentic version of Ouendan. :P
That doesn't answer my question...:|
0_o

FerreTrip wrote:

Would that be its own thing, or would that be unrankable as well, despite it being used in the very games osu! is based off of? If it IS able to be called its own thing, I'd like to nominate it. I sadly have no pictures to display what I mean.
It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
anonymous_old
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0_o

strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

It's rankable, and they appear quite often.
You dare contradict God?

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
peppy was talking about stacked notes with zero stacking enabled.

FerreTrip was talking about stacked notes where the hitburst covers the next approach circle (like 1/1 or 2/1 stacks)
anonymous_old
Oh.

The Engrish in this thread got me lost.
Derekku
[Nomination]
Description: "Back and forth" beats that are spaced a grid or two apart and keep spacing out.
Example: Lucky [EEeee's Hard] @ 00:15:07
FerreTrip
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Xgor
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Sousei
FFF stack anyone? :[
0_o

Sousei wrote:

FFF stack anyone? :[
:) :) :)
Vanmonky

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that is very unrankable.
But, this --> viewtopic.php?t=7252
and this --> viewtopic.php?t=6297

These beatmaps using the trick and they are ranked. When was the rule implemented?
m980
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LuigiHann
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Vanmonky
Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
anonymous_old

VanMoNky wrote:

Oh.. Alright then..

But may I use the 0.1 stacking instead of zero? :P
I guess the answer must be NO.
If notes are obviously unstacked where they should be, it's unrankable.
rust45
Name: Parallel Sliders.
Description: A group of sliders that are all parallel to each other, the slider starts may or may not be next to the ends and they may go any direction.

Image Examples(Warning, multiple images) :
SPOILER

From Nharox's The City is At War map, see how all the slider starts are at the same level.

From my Animaniacs map, see how they are diagonal rather then straight.

I was getting lazy at getting another example but this shows the starting points being right next to the slider ends, making it not a jump anymore.

Jesus Christ that was a bit too much, but I hope you get my point.
m980
KC is doing a wonderful job making the rating threads.

If anyone else does it he'll yell at us : (
MegaManEXE
No idea how dead these rating topics are but regardless, I'd like to nominate a technique that I especially like.

Slider Trains

A bunch of short sliders one after the other I guess, no other real way to explain it in words.

Example pictures:

From bubbles - F (Insane)


From Karen - Distorted Pain (Insane)


From dj TAKA - V2 (Another)
Derekku
ahh I <3 slider trains
anonymous_old
I actually thought of adding what I call Slider Fans Tuesday, but I forgotted. =X
FerreTrip
Alright, I edited my post to call them FFF Stacks. (Though I should look at a map first...)
Topic Starter
kingcobra52
Sorry for not updating in a while. My computer's hard drive got wiped and that combined with random freezing has slowed me down. Therefore I'll let any BAT post/update the polls from now on. (just keep my format, please)
rust45
Why hasn't anyone made a new topic? I'm waiting for discussion.
Ekaru
Because no BAT was willing to take up cobra's offer, apparently.
Card N'FoRcE
Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
anonymous_old

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)
Who said other mappers can't use it, though?

And who said a technique changes depending on the mapper?
Aoitenshi
how about 'Back, Forth, Forth' formation? this is it.

(note : The song in the picture doesn't really have that streams, I just created the example.

Lybydose
Nomination:

Windmill Sliders

A series of sliders (usually four in a row) which all originate from a shared center point, making the pattern look like a windmill blade. The sliders may not necessarily be curved, which can instead form a + or X design.

Feel Good Inc. is an obvious example because they show up in sync with the "windmill" lyrics.
Floating Darkness - I edited the map slightly to produce a better screen shot

anonymous_old
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Seibei4211

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Just a question.
What's the point of creating a "Rate the style" thread if that style is used only by one mapper?
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19378)
(viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19402)

EDIT: before someone kills me, i asked just to know :<
Weren't Etna sliders basically an awp creation, but now they're common? And even if he wasn't the first, someone was.

Edit: See, I knew I wasn't the one who came up with "Seibei style anti-jumps". They're in, like, every FFFanatic map. Both kinds.
RandomJibberish
Nomination:

Wiggle Sliders

SPOILER


Examples are from The Great Don Paolo by me and MetalMario's Space Oddity

These are one (or two on a fast song like the first screen) beat long sliders in a "wiggle" shape where it curves in one direction then the opposite direction. They're used to be a little more interesting than a regular straight slider.
mm201
Integral sign. ∫ydx

Or the slits on a violin.

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
Wizard Of Orz
again those sliders are just a slider shape really
anonymous_old

MetalMario201 wrote:

"Wiggle sliders" makes me think of those ones that zigzag super rapidly.
Same.

I think of those as "S" sliders, not "wiggle" sliders.
Daru
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anonymous_old
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fartownik
Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
Shinxyn
"Hold Sliders" (Could use a better name...)

Sliders where the bpm isn't just 0.5x, but 0.25x or 0.125x (with new red timing panels on each side). Usually the mouse doesn't have to be moved, but its confusing sometimes when the maps pace is fast...
Used to match the music though, not the map's pace.

Djpop uses this quite a bit.

Lybydose

fartownik wrote:

Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
Do you mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" (Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5346) or Speed Up as in "there's one slider here that's really fast, but everything else is normal" (DJPop style. Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5255).
fartownik

Lybydose wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Hm, how about Speed Up? I would nominate it, but I don't know how to introduce it on screenshots :P
Do you mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" (Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5346) or Speed Up as in "there's one slider here that's really fast, but everything else is normal" (DJPop style. Example: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5255).
I mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" :P
Hitoshirenu Shourai

fartownik wrote:

I mean Speed Up as in "this entire section has fast sliders and larger spacing" :P
Like how I've done in several maps?
Small example.
Sudden spacing change like this?

For the above examples, I call them "Chaser Formations," since you have to kind've "Chase" after them. Speaking of which, I had originally had these in my Insane for "Sexy Vampire" but Cyclone said it made the map too hard =(

I think I'll put them back in, just with less distance between them. >_>
anonymous_old

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

Speaking of which, I had originally had these in my Insane for "Sexy Vampire" but Cyclone said it made the map too hard =(
>=[

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

I think I'll put them back in
\o/

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

just with less distance between them. >_>
>=[
0_o

Nominations wrote:

"Name Pending"
These should definitely be called Golden Arches

Hitoshirenu Shourai
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Aoitenshi

Hitoshirenu Shourai wrote:

0_o wrote:

These should definitely be called Golden Arches

lol'd

I also say we call them Golden Arches.

For the lulz!
XD
Hanyuu
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Mogsy

Shinxyn wrote:

"Hold Sliders" (Could use a better name...)

Sliders where the bpm isn't just 0.5x, but 0.25x or 0.125x (with new red timing panels on each side). Usually the mouse doesn't have to be moved, but its confusing sometimes when the maps pace is fast...
Used to match the music though, not the map's pace.
I second this. I don't have images at the moment due to being on the laptop, but Imogen Heap - Just for Now uses them, as well, in some respects. I also find myself using this technique when mapping slow songs (IE when I map most things I like).
Beuchi
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mm201

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi! :) I want to nominate these 2 techniques:


~Square formations~

A bunch of hitcircles that form a square shape, usually with a short spacing between them.
These are Flower Combos of order 4.
GladiOol
Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
It's making an 1/2 slider, copy paste it while turning it verticly and horizantly, and then going on (with a circle or slider) on the beginning of the first slider.

Maps:
Perfume - Wonder2 [Gladi]
The Killers - Mr. Brightside (Jacques LuCont's Thin White Duke Remix) [Gladi's Hard]
Doomsday

Gladi wrote:

Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
Maybe we could call them Switchback sliders? I dunno
mm201

Gladi wrote:

Dunno how to call this, but I use it now-a-days. (And I see nobody else do it)
It's making an 1/2 slider, copy paste it while turning it verticly and horizantly, and then going on (with a circle or slider) on the beginning of the first slider.
That's because overlap sucks.

Nominating honeycomb beats. (Credit goes to m980 for the name.)

Basically, take a bunch of hitcircles, each a 1/2 apart, then arrange them on a hexagonal grid with a confusing (but spaced) order. You need to look at the approach circles or the numbers to figure out where you're going to next because otherwise, there are as many as five possible choices!

Examples:
Billy Fogarty - Jumpin' Jack Flash [Sweatin' / Hard ROCK!]
La Roux - Bulletproof [MetalMario's Hard]

Screenshots:
anonymous_old
Honeycomb beats suck on low OD.

Suck.
m980
I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
anonymous_old

m980 wrote:

I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
I think you have problems.
mm201

m980 wrote:

I think Low OD + HoneyComb Beats are awesomely fun.
QFT.

I'm a just leave this here:
rust45
I fucking hate those things, they are the reason why I can't beat Jumpin Jack Flash on Sweatin on EBA.
m980
/me SS'd JJF on sweatin' (DS)
anonymous_old
I need HR to pass it. =]=]
Derekku
omg I LOVE honeycomb beats

++++support
RandomJibberish
Honeycomb beats for me is the texhnique I love to hate. Or, more accurately, hate to love. Support.
Zekira
I'm going narcissist here and nominate a technique I often use (and often get hated about).

I'm naming it Oibon Jumps. Oibon is a type of Japanese food, which had a parody in Taiko no Tatsujin wherein you can get enough gas from eating it and fart your way up to the top of Mt. Fuji, or rather emulating super-hyper-OKNFOKD-jumping. And for the fact that I first used it in a Taiko song.

This technique is simple but annoying to play with: two notes that are usually 1/2 apart, but end up being on opposite sides of the screen, hence an enormous jump. This is usually the product of copy-paste + flipping, but at times this can be utilized to full-effect on bumpy songs.

Found in maps:
Taiko no Tatsujin - Kumo Made Todoke [Oni]
Taiko no Tatsujin - Brouken Hiyori [Oni]
Paramore - That's What You Get [Hard]

Examples:
NoHitter
I'd like to nominate Post-spinner Notes

It's basically a note or series of notes directly after a long spinner at the end of the beatmap.
(And trust me, it catches some people of guard, who think that long spinners = end of beatmap)

Examples:
Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu [Uninstall]

Tomohito Nishiura - Deserted Amusement Park [Mysterious]

Iwadare Noriyuki - Meta Knight's Revenge [Bridge]
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