thank you!Jacob wrote:
[Taikocalypse DX]
06:34:843 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1,2) - please delete this section. it's awkward to play and the timing for this section (or lack therof) is incorrect. each circle practically needs its own individual timing section to be spot on. this was discussed extensively with some other BATs--the timing is accurate down to 1/16 (thank you charles), and the low OD makes this relatively easy to get 300s on. Most testers have not had problems with this section at all. also, removing it just makes that break REALLY long and boring--in the standard diff, there's at least an SB to keep the player/viewer's interest, but the taiko would just have a long minute of nothingness ;;
[Love]
02:48:047 (1,1,1) - in my opinion, this anti-jump is really difficulty to sightread and play properly due to the very fast ongoing pace of the map at that point in the song. a good solution would be to place a slider at 02:48:047 that repeats at 02:48:297. it would also be neat to place the reverse of the slider on the end of (1) in the next combo, like this ((7) is the repeat slider, you just can't see the repeat). the problem with sliders is that they give more "connected" flow and I wanted disconnected flow there. The weird 1/4 effect in the background fades away at 02:48:047 - and suddenly comes back at 02:48:547 - , so I wanted to emphasize that. Anyway, I spread out the notes across the screen. (surprisingly enough, no one i watched test the map misread the antijumps--even on first play--but I suppose they are a bit too risky.)
06:48:422 (1) - you should never ever map to a vocal part that isn't actually part of the main beat. this isn't timed correctly either (or does it even have a correct timing)? yeah, you should probably remove this. yeah this is pretty weird--removed.
this should be good for bubble #2 since the uninherited timing section changes didn't require the resnapping of any notes.
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t+pazolite feat. Rizna - Distorted Lovesong [Osu|Taiko]
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Topic Starter
Hello.Makar wrote:
music theory experts
This is a fair way to aid Taiko gameplay since 7/4 measures are really long. In theory, 7/4 measures are simply made up of a combination of 2/4, 3/4, and 4/4 groupings, and this song happens to use a 4/4 to 3/4 as a 7/4 measure. Both would be considered fine if you consider Taiko playability, and this is one of the cases where I would allow a red line inconsistency across all diffs.RLC wrote:
This is the reason for the additional uninherited timing sections--at least in the taiko. I changed the standard diff too, for the sake of consistency.
01:33:047 - 4/4 should go here instead of 01:34:047 - . For the reason Lybydose provided above, what that's trying to accomplish is making the time signature fit the map, when it should be the other way around. It is very clear that 01:33:047 - is a single 4/4 measure and not a 3/4 measure with an extra beat.Lybydose wrote:
01:33:047 (1,2,3,4,5) is structured exactly the same as the previous section [...]
Would also include a 4/4 at 01:35:047 - for the sake of restarting stanza count. Good practice, even though you can only dream of playing this at 1.5x rate.
Topic Starter
fixed 4/4 switch as stated by those
didn't change taiko back to 4/4 and 3/4 combination though, since the inconsistency between diffs seems to be too controversial, w/e.
didn't add extra 4/4 line because as far as I can tell, that wouldn't really do anything, osu!-wise? correct me if i'm wrong.
didn't change taiko back to 4/4 and 3/4 combination though, since the inconsistency between diffs seems to be too controversial, w/e.
didn't add extra 4/4 line because as far as I can tell, that wouldn't really do anything, osu!-wise? correct me if i'm wrong.
I so want to give a flame to this map ;w;
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
Topic Starter
the previous posts were all dealing with the time signature changes; as it is right now, all of the time signatures are correctGabe wrote:
I so want to give a flame to this map ;w;
butyouguysareconfusingmewiththetiming
Topic Starter
calm down, gabe and I are working on it ok
81047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - make it 7/4
82047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
82797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
83797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
84547,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
85547,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
86297,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
87297,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
88047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
89047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
89797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - remove those
90797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0 - move to 91547
do the same as taiko
82047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
82797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
83797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
84547,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
85547,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
86297,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
87297,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
88047,250,4,1,1,60,1,0
89047,250,3,1,1,60,1,0
89797,250,4,1,1,60,1,0 - remove those
90797,250,3,1,1,60,1,0 - move to 91547
do the same as taiko
Topic Starter
pretty sure timing has already been changed?
the timing measure? no kds needed for thatRLC wrote:
pretty sure timing has already been changed?
...that's not cool. I was about to post with the flame icon!
ircmod
19:15 RLC: hi hi hi
19:15 Gabe: hi hi hi
19:15 RLC: i can clarify
19:15 RLC: anything
19:15 RLC: you need me to clarify
19:15 RLC: about the timing
19:17 RLC: D:
19:17 Gabe: o,o
19:18 RLC: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2283130 D:
19:31 RLC: pls respond pls /runs
19:32 Gabe: o:
19:32 RLC: :o
19:33 Gabe: wtf, I always write: disturbed
19:33 Gabe: instead of disturted
19:33 RLC: huh
19:33 RLC: i used to always write ogm instead of omg
19:33 RLC: especially when i was spamming people
19:39 Gabe: hm
19:39 Gabe: can you tell me why there's an inherited timing point here?
19:39 Gabe: and the next three timings
19:39 Gabe: they seems.. useless?
19:44 RLC: hi
19:44 RLC: sorry i was afk
19:44 RLC: uh
19:44 RLC: where
19:44 Gabe: 00:43:547 -
19:44 Gabe: oops, forgot to link
19:44 Gabe: =v=b
19:44 RLC: ah those
19:44 RLC: i used those to help me storyboard hitsounds
19:44 RLC: i think i can remove them without breaking anything now
19:45 RLC: oh wait i remember now
19:45 RLC: yeah there used to be sliders there
19:45 RLC: so i used the green lines
19:45 RLC: to make one of the ticks give a different noise
19:45 RLC: so i guess i can remove them now
19:46 Gabe: yeah
19:54 Gabe: I'm currently watching your map in 50% playback
19:54 Gabe: it looks good
19:55 RLC: o:
19:55 Gabe: a little suggestion, 03:43:047 (8) - what do you think on adding a new combo here? Since it's having a different sound from the previous notes, it could be isolated, I guess.
19:55 Gabe: a little suggestion, 03:43:047 (8) - what do you think on adding a new combo here? Since it's having a different sound from the previous notes, it could be isolated, I guess.
19:55 RLC: sure
19:55 RLC: it would fit with 03:47:047 (1) - these other ones
19:57 Gabe: yeah
19:58 Gabe: 04:19:047 (1) - the end of this spinner is way too close from the next notes,
19:59 Gabe: since there's three spinners in a row, it might be a little confusing
19:59 RLC: the notes appear on top of the spinner though; so it should be fine
19:59 RLC: and it's a kickslider
19:59 RLC: so it's relatively lenient
19:59 Gabe: so, since there's a soft sound to 04:22:422 - it would sound g-
19:59 RLC: o
19:59 Gabe: well
19:59 RLC: that's good actually
19:59 RLC: yeah
19:59 Gabe: LOL
19:59 RLC: shortening the spinner by 1/2
19:59 RLC: LOL
20:01 RLC: i'm going to go eat a quick dinner
20:01 Gabe: 04:26:047 (1,1) - with the circles between them, you are moving them some grids down, but you have kept the same emplacement for those three sliders, but you have reversed the second slider
20:01 Gabe: 04:26:047 (1,1) - with the circles between them, you are moving them some grids down, but you have kept the same emplacement for those three sliders, but you have reversed the second slider
20:01 Gabe: oh, alright
20:01 RLC: keep on listing whatever you find; i'll address them when i get back
20:01 Gabe: Okay!
20:01 Gabe: Have a good meal c:
20:01 RLC: c: thanks
20:02 Gabe: like said, you could also try to make the same thing with those sliders, by moving them some grids down
20:06 Gabe: 04:56:547 (3) - This is only a suggestion, I have no objection with the current emplacement. Since you have made a blanket with both of these sliders, 04:55:422 (2,4) - , you could also try to blanket this slider with the beginning of this one: 04:56:172 (2) -
20:06 Gabe: 04:56:547 (3) - This is only a suggestion, I have no objection with the current emplacement. Since you have made a blanket with both of these sliders, 04:55:422 (2,4) - , you could also try to blanket this slider with the beginning of this one: 04:56:172 (2) -
20:08 Gabe: 05:48:047 (1) - Can you try to make a better blanket here? It's almost perfect ovo
20:11 Gabe: 05:54:297 (2) - this slider seems very far from the previous one. Since the slider one is finishing on a blue tick and the next slider starts directly after it, you should try to make them more closer. It's like these, 05:50:047 (1,2) - , but they're more close than those two.
20:11 Gabe: 05:54:297 (2) - this slider seems very far from the previous one. Since the slider one is finishing on a blue tick and the next slider starts directly after it, you should try to make them more closer. It's like these, 05:50:047 (1,2) - , but they're more close than those two.
20:13 Gabe: 06:06:797 (7) - this one is a bit nazi. Move it to x:376 y:342 to have a consistent spacing with the previous and next circle
20:14 Gabe: 06:53:547 (1,2,3,4,5) - this si just a question, have you snapped them on 1/6? owo
20:19 RLC: hi im back
20:19 Gabe: wb
20:20 RLC: ok, i'll move 04:26:047 (1,1) -
20:21 RLC: i think i'll move them a lot more too, since right now you can't actually tell that they're moving down when playing
20:22 RLC: 04:56:172 (2,3) - blanket fixed
20:22 RLC: 05:48:047 (1,2) - same
20:23 RLC: 05:53:797 (4,1,2) - i want these to all be the same distance
20:23 RLC: as in
20:23 RLC: their "center"
20:23 RLC: i dunno how to say it
Topic Starter
am i supposed to edit the .osu file for time signature stuff
because right now everything seems to be correct (7/4) in the editor
because right now everything seems to be correct (7/4) in the editor
look at this failboat
Topic Starter
that's supposed to happen; unfortunately.
lolcubes taught me this method of storyboarding--you have to "kill" the default bg and use it in the SB itself in order to prevent random lines from showing up on the sides
the side effect is that people that disable SB can ignore the BG entirely
i don't really care; whatever helps them play!
lolcubes taught me this method of storyboarding--you have to "kill" the default bg and use it in the SB itself in order to prevent random lines from showing up on the sides
the side effect is that people that disable SB can ignore the BG entirely
i don't really care; whatever helps them play!
those jumps kill me
I guess all of my suggestions were considered, the map was already great how it was.
Nyquill, LunarSakuya, RLC and I looked at what vahn10 pointed out, we found.. nothing?
I finally declare this map... Bubbled!
ermwait.
I meant.. Approved!!
Nyquill, LunarSakuya, RLC and I looked at what vahn10 pointed out, we found.. nothing?
I finally declare this map... Bubbled!
ermwait.
I meant.. Approved!!
Topic Starter
#yogo
edit: /me slaps koromo x1000
yahooo!
congratz~!
wow gratz!
Holy penis
gratz o.o
rang rang rang rang rang
DSFSDSfds
Grats!
DSFSDSfds
Grats!
nice 
So staying up until 3:30 sometimes does have advantages.
Congratz RLC, good job with this
Congratz RLC, good job with this
Talking about that.. I NEED TO GO.Zarerion wrote:
So staying up until 3:30 sometimes does have advantages.
Congratz RLC, good job with this
BYE RLC AND CONGRATULATION AGAIN c:
Insta approval again? yay!!!
desu
awsum
pro map
fooo~
gratz <3
gratz <3
I came
Best of 2013 (again)
Best of 2013 (again)
congratz!
Topic Starter
needs user rating 7.77 plz
Awesome.
Congratulations!
btw you should tell me what rlc stands for :<
Congratulations!
#yoloRLC wrote:
#yogo
edit: /me slaps koromo x1000
#swag
#thug life
(?)
epic map of 2013 
HNhnghNGhnGHnhNGhnHGNhGN
CONGRATULATIONZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Gratz \o/ omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg !!
lol
congrats
btw why Genre: Novelty (Instrumental) - I guess this is not instrumental
btw why Genre: Novelty (Instrumental) - I guess this is not instrumental
Yup, we already have two (three?) maps confirmed for best of 2013 chart.Nyquill wrote:
I came
Best of 2013 (again)
At this rate, half the maps in the chart will be RLC's.
I am okay with this.
this ranked omg <3
GJ.
GJ.
ЛИБОЯПИШУНЕВТОТТРЕДЛИБОВЫНЕЛЮДИТАККАКВЫПИЛИЛИРАСЧЛЕНЁННУЮЛОЛЮ!!!!!!!111 D:
HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!!!11
HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!!!11
edit : what does that mean D;Archangel Tirael wrote:
ЛИБОЯПИШУНЕВТОТТРЕДЛИБОВЫНЕЛЮДИТАККАКВЫПИЛИЛИРАСЧЛЕНЁННУЮЛОЛЮ!!!!!!!111 D:
HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!!!11
hue, cruel rating is cruel ;___;
Gratz RLC <3
Gratz RLC <3
why is this rated so low? 
because RLC has reached shiirn statusJacob wrote:
why is this rated so low?
Topic Starter
interesting that you should say this, given that metro and kanna have also recently compared me to shiirnKanye West wrote:
because RLC has reached shiirn statusJacob wrote:
why is this rated so low?
I only said it because of Final Answer
"it's either me posting in a wrong thread or you guys are creeps for removing that dismembered loli"Frostmourne wrote:
edit : what does that mean D;Archangel Tirael wrote:
ЛИБОЯПИШУНЕВТОТТРЕДЛИБОВЫНЕЛЮДИТАККАКВЫПИЛИЛИРАСЧЛЕНЁННУЮЛОЛЮ!!!!!!!111 D:
HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!!!11
you're welcome, remove spaces and capslock it yourself
So why is this getting rating trolled? Mad cause bad?
congrats BPM 240 x.x
Maddy wrote:
wtf rating
No really, just wait the next days and the
My guess is, "needlessly hard."Backfire wrote:
So why is this getting rating trolled? Mad cause bad?
Rating doesn't matter at all guys, keep that in mind.
That's actually true but it's like saying "shit map no effort plays gay hurrdurr". Of course the Rating consist subjective thoughts and opinions and of course everyone feels free to rate the Map how he/she/Andrea wrote:
Rating doesn't matter at all guys, keep that in mind.
this song was stuck in my heasd sadfasdfasf
holy crap cookiezi strong
Topic Starter
song sounds pretty crazy to meD33d wrote:
My guess is, "needlessly hard."Backfire wrote:
So why is this getting rating trolled? Mad cause bad?
why not map crazy
also,
Nyquill wrote:
holy crap cookiezi strong
They as well as I have not seen dissected loli in SB.Backfire wrote:
So why is this getting rating trolled? Mad cause bad?
A crazy map can still be simplified within reason, or at least have simpler sections. I haven't seen the map, so I won't make any assumptions about the map itself, but intense songs don't excuse bullshit.RLC wrote:
song sounds pretty crazy to meD33d wrote:
My guess is, "needlessly hard."
why not map crazy
Topic Starter
>_> I was actually originally going to make a lengthier post in place of that... seems like it is necessary.
Your statement "needlessly hard," if it is referring to the overall difficulty of the map, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It implies that the map is somehow "too hard for the song," which is a stupid concept, since you can't just listen to a song and say, "oh, the map for it must be around this difficulty with this SV, blah blah." That's a load of nonsense. On the other hand,
Trust me, if I wanted to make a "needlessly hard" beatmap, I would put spam random circle jumps for the entire seven minutes of the song.
And as for your statement,
Your statement "needlessly hard," if it is referring to the overall difficulty of the map, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It implies that the map is somehow "too hard for the song," which is a stupid concept, since you can't just listen to a song and say, "oh, the map for it must be around this difficulty with this SV, blah blah." That's a load of nonsense. On the other hand,
Yes! This is a more logical statement. I assure you, the relative internal difficulties of this map have been very meticulously thought out--relative SV, object density, smoothness of flow, etc.D33d wrote:
A crazy map can still be simplified within reason, or at least have simpler sections.
Trust me, if I wanted to make a "needlessly hard" beatmap, I would put spam random circle jumps for the entire seven minutes of the song.
And as for your statement,
"bullshit"? I suggest you don't carry this assuming attitude of knowing what is holy and what is unholy in mapping. Please don't assume that you've got mapping all figured out. It does no one any good.D33d wrote:
...intense songs don't excuse bullshit.
Intense songs are the best for making hard maps like these, because it's where the crazy maps fit.D33d wrote:
...but intense songs don't excuse bullshit.
"Bullshit" to you may be "really fun" to someone else, it's all a matter of perspective.
Please keep in mind that easy maps are abundant in osu! and very difficult maps are not so common.
yeaaah congratz RLC!
Lol this deed dude... i don't agree at all. The map is awesome, you just don't even play, how would you know............D33d wrote:
A crazy map can still be simplified within reason, or at least have simpler sections. I haven't seen the map, so I won't make any assumptions about the map itself, but intense songs don't excuse bullshit.
Congrats, great song.
It's not harder than a 240 BPM map should be.D33d wrote:
A crazy map can still be simplified within reason, or at least have simpler sections. I haven't seen the map, so I won't make any assumptions about the map itself, but intense songs don't excuse bullshit.
Intense difficulty doesn't mean bad ratings (hi FREEDOM DiVE, hi Airman, hi pretty much every approval map out there).
There's stuff people like and stuff they don't.
You guys are discussing a rating made off 41 votes. Not the most representative of the hundred thousands of players this game has.
There's stuff people like and stuff they don't.
You guys are discussing a rating made off 41 votes. Not the most representative of the hundred thousands of players this game has.
Don't forget that such ratings happens at the very first minutes after ranking/approval.Mr Color wrote:
Intense difficulty doesn't mean bad ratings (hi FREEDOM DiVE, hi Airman, hi pretty much every approval map out there).
There's stuff people like and stuff they don't.
You guys are discussing a rating made off 41 votes. Not the most representative of the hundred thousands of players this game has.
I'll bet 10 bucks this will end with 9+.
Soarezi
because osu sucks assFrobe wrote:
Why the low Rating?
people like really poorly and retardedly mapped stuff (i.e. 90% of ranked/bubbled maps nowadays) or more
Topic Starter
I didn't make the AR 9 because I myself felt that it plays better with AR9. Remember, there are a lot of people that can play this map that cannot read AR10.
So as a mapper, I have to make a decision between:
1) A bit more enjoyable for a smaller audience, or
2) A bit less enjoyable for a larger audience.
I went with option 2. Frankly, I don't think reading AR9 on this map is really very hard at all, but hey.
I do hope, however, that more maps are ranked/approved with AR10. No one could read AR9 a few years ago, mainly because there were very few maps that actually had AR9. I think the case for AR10 is fundamentally the same.
As for the SV, I really have no idea... I've never encountered that when playing this map myself, or heard of that from any other testers. I tend to map with 1.9 SV, and I've always thought that was already kind of high...? Besides, the whole point of jumps is an increase in spacing, so...
So as a mapper, I have to make a decision between:
1) A bit more enjoyable for a smaller audience, or
2) A bit less enjoyable for a larger audience.
I went with option 2. Frankly, I don't think reading AR9 on this map is really very hard at all, but hey.
I do hope, however, that more maps are ranked/approved with AR10. No one could read AR9 a few years ago, mainly because there were very few maps that actually had AR9. I think the case for AR10 is fundamentally the same.
As for the SV, I really have no idea... I've never encountered that when playing this map myself, or heard of that from any other testers. I tend to map with 1.9 SV, and I've always thought that was already kind of high...? Besides, the whole point of jumps is an increase in spacing, so...
If you can't read/think ar9 is too high, it's not because of the slow sliders you miss, you just aren't good enough yetDefacer wrote:
people wondering about low rating...
to me the reason is obvious.
the map is composed brilliantly, like you would expect from RLC and also the song is extremely awesome, I even put it in my phone, so I can listen to it when I am outside BUT there are 2 REASONS why it's just unplayable(For me and for a lot of other players I guess):
1)AR9 , well this problem is well known and let's pretend it's not that much big of a deal(atama no taisou and freedom dive are ar9 too but don't have such low rating).
2)SLOW SLIDERS, seriously? 240 bpm...I am sure some maps on 180bpm have faster sliders, I literally sliderbreak every slider because I run for circles too early and additionally miss because of reason 1, I am extremely disappointed at the slider velocity, I modded both the ar to 10 and the slider velocity from 1.90 to 2.10 and had IMMENSE fun playing the map, IMMENSE, also I doubled my previous ranked score and increased my acc with ~8% with just a random run to see how it goes, the way it's ranked now is just painful to play, that slowass slider, everytime watiing for it to finish...
I did not vote low for the map because I realize how well composed it is, and OF COURSE this is my problem for not being able to read slow sliders and low ar but THIS is the reason why it's ranked so low(8.1 currently).
The sliders fit the general atmosphere of the song.
It has low rating because osu! is like that, they'll always upvote famous animu maps and such, regardless of the map's quality itself
@Snepif
I bet this beatmap is good enough but...
as you can see http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?m=0&r=6&g=0&la=0 people do not tend to downvote approved maps for no reason or just because this is not famous anime song.
I bet this beatmap is good enough but...
as you can see http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?m=0&r=6&g=0&la=0 people do not tend to downvote approved maps for no reason or just because this is not famous anime song.
not reallySnepif wrote:
If you can't read/think ar9 is too high, it's not because of the slow sliders you miss, you just aren't good enough yet
The sliders fit the general atmosphere of the song.
It has low rating because osu! is like that, they'll always upvote famous animu maps and such, regardless of the map's quality itself
when the rating is like 8.5 or receives a few 1s when it's ranked it's understandable
when it keeps getting negative attention then there is a reason.
i used animu as one example
you forgot touhou
aaaaaaaaaaaah sorry then, i didn't understeand. well let's leave poor RLC alone, we can talk in pm or somethingDefacer wrote:
I did not understand your first sentence, you mean that AR9 is too high for me to read?What the hell.I meant that it's too slow, it needs ar10 but I said it's ok because even other hard maps are ar9 and don't get receive negative rating