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Chyo-Kun
So long for get this mod,sorry :(

[Easy]

00:20:084 (1) - Even if it's a easy,maybe you should receck the spacing on this slider,it's so close to the last beat but starts after much time. (Just a suggestion)
00:23:655 (1) - Move this slider 1 grid down for don't overlap a little with 00:24:370 (2) -
00:55:798 (1) - Move to x:164 y:40 for make it look better?
00:57:226 (3) - 2 grid down for the same reason as before
01:03:655 (3) - Move to x:312 y:120
01:06:512 (4) - Add whistle on this whole slider
01:07:941 (3) - ^
01:12:227 (4) - Move to x:156 y:224 for place on the same spot as 01:10:441 (1) - this
01:17:941 (3) - Add whistle on this whole slider
01:19:369 (2) - ^

A easy without a spinner is very unusual,better add one at 01:23:298 - to 01:24:369 -

[Normal]

00:08:297 (5) - Add a whistle on this slider end
00:10:083 (3) - Add whistle to the whole slider
00:10:797 (5) - ^
00:36:869 (4) - Maybe replace this slider with a straight one
00:56:512 (3) - Add whistle on the whole slider
00:57:226 (4) - Finish

[Hard]

00:15:797 (4) - NC

[Insane]

Nothing to say on this diff



Good luck for rank >w<
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Chyo-Kun wrote:

So long for get this mod,sorry :(

[Easy]

00:20:084 (1) - Even if it's a easy,maybe you should receck the spacing on this slider,it's so close to the last beat but starts after much time. (Just a suggestion) this placement obeys DS, it was good I thought
00:23:655 (1) - Move this slider 1 grid down for don't overlap a little with 00:24:370 (2) - fixed
00:55:798 (1) - Move to x:164 y:40 for make it look better? fixed
00:57:226 (3) - 2 grid down for the same reason as before ^
01:03:655 (3) - Move to x:312 y:120 fixed
01:06:512 (4) - Add whistle on this whole slider Sorry I don't like the sound like that >:(
01:07:941 (3) - ^ also no change
01:12:227 (4) - Move to x:156 y:224 for place on the same spot as 01:10:441 (1) - this fixed
01:17:941 (3) - Add whistle on this whole slider ^
01:19:369 (2) - ^ ^

A easy without a spinner is very unusual,better add one at 01:23:298 - to 01:24:369 - It used to have one, but many modders thought it NG so I removed it...

[Normal]

00:08:297 (5) - Add a whistle on this slider end fixed
00:10:083 (3) - Add whistle to the whole slider only add at the end instead
00:10:797 (5) - ^ ^
00:36:869 (4) - Maybe replace this slider with a straight one sorry I thought the current one is OK
00:56:512 (3) - Add whistle on the whole slider fixed
00:57:226 (4) - Finish fixed

[Hard]

00:15:797 (4) - NC not neccessary

[Insane]

Nothing to say on this diff



Good luck for rank >w<
thx for your mod~ the hitsound pattern works out fine~
KokoroStudiox3
m4m from my queue

Combo Colours Inconsistency in combo colours:
- [Angel] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86
- [Easy] :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171
- [Hard] :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170
- [Normal] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86

suggestions
[easy]
00:05:798 (1) - finish ?
00:06:513 (2) - Move to {x:292 y:128}.
00:07:226 (3) - Move to {x:424 y:124}.
00:16:869 (2) - Move node #2 to {x:192 y:232}.
01:09:726 - finish ?
01:21:155 - ^

angel

00:05:798 - finish
00:10:977 (2) finish ?

nice song :) :) :)
nice mapscet *.*
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

eLtigreXXx wrote:

m4m from my queue

Combo Colours Inconsistency in combo colours:
- [Angel] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86
- [Easy] :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171
- [Hard] :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170
- [Normal] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86
I intended to pick different colors to fit different BGs.
suggestions
[easy]
00:05:798 (1) - finish ? added a lower-volume finish
00:06:513 (2) - Move to {x:292 y:128}. fixed
00:07:226 (3) - Move to {x:424 y:124}. ^
00:16:869 (2) - Move node #2 to {x:192 y:232}. fixed
01:09:726 - finish ? fixed
01:21:155 - ^ didn't add finish, for this not the end of this sentence.

angel

00:05:798 - finish fixed
00:10:977 (2) finish ? fixed

nice song :) :) :)
nice mapscet *.*
Thx for your mod and your Star~!
I've scanned your map and it's really cute as I thought.
I'll mod it later these days for I'm quite busy preparing for exams /。\
787B
Hi ♫
From my Modding Queue

General
Seems really good to me, it's ready imo.

Easy
I can't add much stuff here, it's already pretty much done.
00:57:226 (3) - Add break after this? I know you've made the same on your other diffs for a consistency, but well, it suits very well in an easy diff imo.

Normal
Same here, seems pretty solid.
00:09:012 (1) - Uhh, move to the center of the grid so you can make 00:08:297 (5,1,2) - symmetric ? x:296 y:252

Hard
00:39:370 (1,2,1,1) - Looks pretty hard for me to read those, probably because of the overlap, but well, they are playable, I just don't like they way they were done.
00:47:584 (3) - Not correctly stacked with 00:46:155 (1) - Fix it with manual stacking.
00:52:941 (3) - Suggesting moving this and 00:55:798 (1) - to x:152 y:272 for a better stacking placement under 00:54:012 (4) -
01:09:013 (2) - Not perfectly stacked with 01:07:941 (3) -

Angel
00:15:084 (5) - Replacing a whistle for a clap sounds much better imo.
00:20:798 (5) - ^
00:26:155 (5) - The overlap with 00:26:869 (1) - could've been improved a bit more imo.
00:39:369 (2) - Hmm, not sure what I'd do with this one, I usually don't place objects off in the grid, what do you think?
00:41:870 (6) - Needs a better stack with 00:40:084 (1) -
01:04:727 (1,2) - Don't quite like the overlap of this two sliders. Move somewhere else? If you're fine with them it's ok.
01:17:048 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Even this being the hardest diff of your mapset, I really don't agree on hiding those notes like that, if you can consider that like a "challenge" of your map, It's alright then.

Nice work here, I'll drop my star:
Good luck.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Wolf wrote:

Hi ♫
From my Modding Queue

General
Seems really good to me, it's ready imo. Tkx~

Easy
I can't add much stuff here, it's already pretty much done.
00:57:226 (3) - Add break after this? I know you've made the same on your other diffs for a consistency, but well, it suits very well in an easy diff imo.
hmm, not neccessary, didn't change

Normal
Same here, seems pretty solid.
00:09:012 (1) - Uhh, move to the center of the grid so you can make 00:08:297 (5,1,2) - symmetric ? x:296 y:252
I tried but can't get them symmetric for the flow is just like that =.= Ok I'll reconsider about it if someone else mention it again

Hard
00:39:370 (1,2,1,1) - Looks pretty hard for me to read those, probably because of the overlap, but well, they are playable, I just don't like they way they were done. :( I think they're Ok
00:47:584 (3) - Not correctly stacked with 00:46:155 (1) - Fix it with manual stacking. fixed
00:52:941 (3) - Suggesting moving this and 00:55:798 (1) - to x:152 y:272 for a better stacking placement under 00:54:012 (4) - fixed
01:09:013 (2) - Not perfectly stacked with 01:07:941 (3) - fixed

Angel
00:15:084 (5) - Replacing a whistle for a clap sounds much better imo. Ok you're the second one to point out this pattern. I'll do the change if the third appears, though I love the current ones...
00:20:798 (5) - ^
00:26:155 (5) - The overlap with 00:26:869 (1) - could've been improved a bit more imo. well actually I don'tmeant to stack them, I just want slider1 to cross 6, Oh well, this point may be changed in the future.
00:39:369 (2) - Hmm, not sure what I'd do with this one, I usually don't place objects off in the grid, what do you think? really important point! I didn't even notice. fixed by making the slider curved
00:41:870 (6) - Needs a better stack with 00:40:084 (1) - fixed
01:04:727 (1,2) - Don't quite like the overlap of this two sliders. Move somewhere else? If you're fine with them it's ok. hmm nice opinion, changed the arrangement
01:17:048 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Even this being the hardest diff of your mapset, I really don't agree on hiding those notes like that, if you can consider that like a "challenge" of your map, It's alright then. yeah, I'll preserve this as the best part for my map and for myself. Let's see how far they can go.

Nice work here, I'll drop my star:
Good luck.
Thx for your mod and star~ sone points are really important for ranking!
MoodyRPG
Boo ~

General
  1. If you don't use breaks, maybe disable the letterbox?
Easy
  • -- Looks good to me.
Normal
  • - 00:42:583 (1) You could make this slider much better, maybe like this
    - 00:48:297 (4) - If you can hear the voice, this note needs a whistle
    - 01:20:976 (3) - I suggest to move this slider in this part because is making a overlap with (2)
Hard
  • - 00:30:083 (2) - Sorry but you can't make that, this slider is hidden under the slider (3), you must to move in another place please
    - 00:40:440 (1) - Why the new combo here? Remove it perhaps?
    - 00:47:583 (3) - Make this slider with the new system from sliders
    - 00:55:797 (1) - Whoops, another note, you should to move it to avoid the confusion when you play
Angel
  • - 00:15:083 (5) - Perhaps replace this whistle for a clap for keep the drum? Sounds good to me
    - 00:20:797 (5) - Same ^
Good map but I don't like these sliders in Easy and Normal, you could do better something but is only a suggestion for your future map, good luck :)
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

MoodyRPG wrote:

Boo ~

General
  1. If you don't use breaks, maybe disable the letterbox?
fixed

Easy
  • -- Looks good to me.
thx

Normal
  • - 00:42:583 (1) You could make this slider much better, maybe like this fixed, it really looks better now
    - 00:48:297 (4) - If you can hear the voice, this note needs a whistle fixed
    - 01:20:976 (3) - I suggest to move this slider in this part because is making a overlap with (2)
fixed, nice idea

Hard
  • - 00:30:083 (2) - Sorry but you can't make that, this slider is hidden under the slider (3), you must to move in another place please hmm, I'll think about it, not changing it currently for I think they are fine in playtest (the body of the slider2 are clearly visiable)
    - 00:40:440 (1) - Why the new combo here? Remove it perhaps? fixed
    - 00:47:583 (3) - Make this slider with the new system from sliders Oh...it used to be the way you want. But some say that it didn't overlap with the slider1 well so I made it like this... If it's OK then I won't change that.
    - 00:55:797 (1) - Whoops, another note, you should to move it to avoid the confusion when you play
fixed

Angel
  • - 00:15:083 (5) - Perhaps replace this whistle for a clap for keep the drum? Sounds good to me Oh finally, this point has been point out for the third time=.= fixed as most of you want
    - 00:20:797 (5) - Same ^
fixed

Good map but I don't like these sliders in Easy and Normal, you could do better something but is only a suggestion for your future map, good luck :)
Oh I'm sorry for that. But thx for your mod~ it turns out helpful.
Genshin
sorry for being so late with the mod

[Normal]

OD3

00:13:297 (3,4,5) - 1 grid down
00:49:190 (1) - move the begin of this slider to 00:49:369 -

[Hard]

OD5

00:56:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - keep consistency here

[Angel]

00:42:584 (7) - please NO!
00:46:513 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - fixed pattern for best shape and space:
228,356,46513,1,0,0:0:0
371,257,46869,1,0,0:0:0
199,251,47047,1,0,0:0:0
335,357,47226,1,0,0:0:0
288,192,47405,1,0,0:0:0
228,356,47583,1,0,0:0:0

01:16:870 (3,1,3,4,5,1,2,3) - not sure this pattern is rankable


Ganbatte!
Poggo
Hi from my mod Q~

Angel

00:05:798(1,3) - maybe make this plancet more beautiful? http://puu.sh/1LANI
00:11:155(3,3) - overlap looks not good
00:15:797 - remove nc and add on slider 3
00:15:083(5) - add clap
00:18:476 - remove NC
00:20:797 - ^
00:39:012 - remove NC
00:42:583 - add nc bcz you change speed
01:00:976 - remove this note~ Without sounds better for me
01:11:333 - here add note
01:13:297(4,1) - omg >.< plz fix this terrible overlab bcz slider 1 not visible
01:16:155 - remove NC
01:17:226(2,3) - stack better
01:18:655(2,3) - ^
01:17:940 - add nc
01:19:369 - ^

Hard

00:21:869(3,4) - hm better a little change this pattern http://puu.sh/1LB0d It will be more playable
00:39:369(1,2,1,1,2,3) - plz change this pattern bcz it overlap and very confused place for hard
00:52:226(2,3) - stack it better
00:52:940(3,4)- overlap~ plz fix this~ Looks really ugly >.<
00:56:512 - unstack this notes http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/562532 Try this~

Normal

Distance spacing should be 0.8-1.0 on normal diffs~ Plz fix all spasing

00:09:726 - This pattern very hard for Normal~ http://puu.sh/1LBhW
00:13:297 - remove this note and make slider 2 double
00:21:512 - http://puu.sh/1LBjX

E.t.c you should make this diff easier bcz Notes on blue tick it very hard for normal diffs~

Easy

00:26:512(1,2) - fix overlap http://puu.sh/1LBnN
00:44:369(1,2) - fix overlap

P.S Map looks a little weird~ You need more work and more mods~ Good luck :oops:
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Genshin wrote:

sorry for being so late with the mod

[Normal]

OD3 fixed

00:13:297 (3,4,5) - 1 grid down changed the placement
00:49:190 (1) - move the begin of this slider to 00:49:369 - no , the melody of the BGM already started at the current time

[Hard]

OD5 fixed

00:56:511 (1,2,3,4,5) - keep consistency here fine now

[Angel]

00:42:584 (7) - please NO! =.= it connects the former and the latter sliders
00:46:513 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - fixed pattern for best shape and space:
228,356,46513,1,0,0:0:0
371,257,46869,1,0,0:0:0
199,251,47047,1,0,0:0:0
335,357,47226,1,0,0:0:0
288,192,47405,1,0,0:0:0
228,356,47583,1,0,0:0:0
changed the placement a bit, didn't make it a star-like jump because I don't want to do the same
01:16:870 (3,1,3,4,5,1,2,3) - not sure this pattern is rankable I'm not so sure either, but let's see


Ganbatte!
thx for your mod
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Katty Pie wrote:

Hi from my mod Q~

Angel

00:05:798(1,3) - maybe make this plancet more beautiful? http://puu.sh/1LANI fixed, looks nice now
00:11:155(3,3) - overlap looks not good fixed
00:15:797 - remove nc and add on slider 3 fixed
00:15:083(5) - add clap already fixed
00:18:476 - remove NC fixed
00:20:797 - ^ ^
00:39:012 - remove NC fixed
00:42:583 - add nc bcz you change speed fixed
01:00:976 - remove this note~ Without sounds better for me sorry for not changing, for a strong beat lands here
01:11:333 - here add note no, a gap feels nice
01:13:297(4,1) - omg >.< plz fix this terrible overlab bcz slider 1 not visible 0.0 actually not so bad in play test, the former slider disappears when the latter slider slides to the right (the beginning of the latter slider is slow)
01:16:155 - remove NC fixed
01:17:226(2,3) - stack better fixed
01:18:655(2,3) - ^ fixed
01:17:940 - add nc fixed
01:19:369 - ^ fixed

Hard

00:21:869(3,4) - hm better a little change this pattern http://puu.sh/1LB0d It will be more playable Really nice suggestion!
00:39:369(1,2,1,1,2,3) - plz change this pattern bcz it overlap and very confused place for hard hmm, not changing it currently but I'll consider about this
00:52:226(2,3) - stack it better fixed
00:52:940(3,4)- overlap~ plz fix this~ Looks really ugly >.< =.= Oh I'm sorry for that
00:56:512 - unstack this notes http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/562532 Try this~ they already gone elsewhere

Normal

Distance spacing should be 0.8-1.0 on normal diffs~ Plz fix all spasing I asked a BAT about this and he said that it doesn't matter as long as it's reasonable and acceptable

00:09:726 - This pattern very hard for Normal~ http://puu.sh/1LBhW sorry I think they're nice now. The BPM is low so that this 1/4-sliders won't seem too hard
00:13:297 - remove this note and make slider 2 double tried but failed to make the flow good while obeying tee distance snap. So... not changing
00:21:512 - http://puu.sh/1LBjX playtested, I'm feeling NG, sorry.

E.t.c you should make this diff easier bcz Notes on blue tick it very hard for normal diffs~ I set long gaps before those hard-to-catch sliders, so I think they're not that unfriendly as you thought

Easy

00:26:512(1,2) - fix overlap http://puu.sh/1LBnN fixed
00:44:369(1,2) - fix overlap fixed

P.S Map looks a little weird~ You need more work and more mods~ Good luck :oops:
I knew that and was moving on to get it better and better. Thx for your mod, really helpful.
Gero
Hi Hi Here My Mod From My Queue (n.n)


[General]
(*)Would you recommend looking for a new MP3 i Listen Too Low
(*) You should correct the images, are the correct size 1024X764

[Easy]

HP Drain +1

(*) 00:08:298 (5) - Not sure but I think this might be difficult to understand for new players
(*) 01:03:655 (3) - ^
(*) 00:23:655 (1,2) - check the distance snap please n.n
(*) 00:31:513 (1) - might suggest do more aesthetic and beautiful this slider
(*) 00:39:370 (6) - move this note to X: 284 Y: 220 to form a perfect blanket

[Normal]

(*) 00:09:726 (2,3,4,5,6) - this is too difficult for a normal ;______;
(*) 00:36:869 (4,1) - This sudden change of pace so may fail to make new players,
I recommend this:

[Hard]

(*) 00:40:798 (1) - could you do this to maintain a clean and playable pattern

Good luck with the map :3!
n.n
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Gero wrote:

Hi Hi Here My Mod From My Queue (n.n)


[General]
(*)Would you recommend looking for a new MP3 i Listen Too Low fixed and polished
(*) You should correct the images, are the correct size 1024X764 fixed

[Easy]

HP Drain +1 not neccessary

(*) 00:08:298 (5) - Not sure but I think this might be difficult to understand for new players hmm I think they're fine due to the low BPM
(*) 01:03:655 (3) - ^ ^
(*) 00:23:655 (1,2) - check the distance snap please n.n I don't want to make them overlap, actually I think it doesn't that matter, just such a bit further.
(*) 00:31:513 (1) - might suggest do more aesthetic and beautiful this slider
fixed
(*) 00:39:370 (6) - move this note to X: 284 Y: 220 to form a perfect blanket fixed

[Normal]

(*) 00:09:726 (2,3,4,5,6) - this is too difficult for a normal ;______; =.= they'll learn about this. I suppose it'll not be that hard for this is a really slow song
(*) 00:36:869 (4,1) - This sudden change of pace so may fail to make new players,
I recommend this:
really nice point! fixed and changed a series of placement

[Hard]

(*) 00:40:798 (1) - could you do this to maintain a clean and playable pattern
Really nice of you for providing the patterns but sorry I just did some of them. I love the overlap as they are now.

Good luck with the map :3!
n.n
Thx for your mod~ useful
DX5536
I enjoy the song everytime i hear it. But to bad it is not the full version. If it a OP version then please change the title. (Your choice to change it or not).
Good map :D !!!
Natsu
Combo Colours Inconsistency in combo colours:

SPOILER
- [Angel] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86

- [Easy] :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171

- [Hard] :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170

- [Normal] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

DX5536 wrote:

I enjoy the song everytime i hear it. But to bad it is not the full version. If it a OP version then please change the title. (Your choice to change it or not).
Good map :D !!!
Glad th/at you like this~
I dodn't have a good full ver. mp3, so...
The title I'll decide later.
Thx for reminding me
btw, on page 4 of this thread, Wiinter has given a link of full ver. mp3 link, maybe you'll need it~
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Natsu wrote:

Combo Colours Inconsistency in combo colours:

SPOILER
- [Angel] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86

- [Easy] :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171

- [Hard] :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170

- [Normal] :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86
Oh I intended to do so, in order to fit different BGs
DX5536

Zero__wind wrote:

DX5536 wrote:

I enjoy the song everytime i hear it. But to bad it is not the full version. If it a OP version then please change the title. (Your choice to change it or not).
Good map :D !!!
Glad th/at you like this~
I dodn't have a good full ver. mp3, so...
The title I'll decide later.
Thx for reminding me
btw, on page 4 of this thread, Wiinter has given a link of full ver. mp3 link, maybe you'll need it~
OK thx
HelloSCV
From my queue M4M request

SPOILER
Easy
Clear

Normal
00:09:726 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern is too hard for Normal diff, fix this plz?
00:48:298 (4) - make 1/1 slider plz

Hard
00:47:583 (3) - add soft finish on end and delete whistle

Angel
00:48:297 (7) - add soft finish on start and delete all the whistle
01:15:798 (6,7) - hard to hit, reduce DS little?

Good clam song lol good luck for rank!
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

HelloSCV wrote:

From my queue M4M request

SPOILER
Easy
Clear

Normal
00:09:726 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern is too hard for Normal diff, fix this plz? I see,Will make it easier if pointed out by others once more
00:48:298 (4) - make 1/1 slider plz fixed

Hard
00:47:583 (3) - add soft finish on end and delete whistle fixed

Angel
00:48:297 (7) - add soft finish on start and delete all the whistle same
01:15:798 (6,7) - hard to hit, reduce DS little? nope, I think it's fine acutally thee distance between 6 and 7 is shorter than the distance between 5 and 6

Good clam song lol good luck for rank!
Thx for your mod~
meetmeetdee
hi - m4m requested in game.
有点来迟了的Mod
都是一些个人建议
Let's Start!

[General]
- 在标题加上(Short Ver.)?
- 没有video的吗?
- 00:05:441 - 00:11:869 + 00:32:584 - 01:23:298 - missing claps? 有点奇怪
[Easy]
- 有些过急和密集的感觉+滑条颇短
00:07:941 - 用这个吗?
00:14:726(4) - 用这个吗?
00:19:013(3) - 加reverse吗?
00:21:513(2,3) - 用这个吗?
00:28:655(3) - 用滑条?]this
00:32:941(2,3) - 这样放好像较好]this
00:42:584(2,3,4) - 用这个吗?
00:50:441(1,2) - 用滑条?如果用滑条的话,这样放好像较好this
- 个人认为这些reverse太短,看你换不换一下吧

[Normal]
- 在蓝线上放note有点奇怪
00:12:940(2,3) - 用这个这个
00:17:940(2) - 用这个吗?
00:21:155 - 加note
00:22:226(5) - 这样
00:26:155 - 00:27:047 - 这样
00:28:297 - 加note
00:31:155 - 加note
00:55:797(2) - 用直滑条
01:06:512 - 加note
01:06:869 - 加note
01:07:940 - 加note
01:08:297 - 加note
01:17:940 - 加note
01:18:297 - 加note
01:19:369 - 加note
01:19:726 - 加note
01:21:690(1) - 缩短这个由01:21:869开始
- 有点急,例如00:09:726(2,3,4,5,6),对于Normal可能有点难,但个人认为都可以接受

[Hard]
AR + 1
- 不同节奏的重叠,略坑
00:22:227(4,5) - 这样
00:26:513(2,3,4,5,6,1) - 有点乱,把00:27:941(1)放到别处?
00:30:797(3) - 用弯滑条
00:39:370(1,2,3,1) - 没叠好
00:47:583(3) - 未拉好,或许这样放?this
00:47:583(3,4) - 没叠好
00:48:655 - 加note
00:51:870(1) - 用note?
00:52:227(2) - 未拉好
00:56:511(1,2,3,4,5) - 增加彼此的距离? 和00:55:797(1,2)一样有点坑
01:06:513(3,1) - 略坑,逆转01:06:513(3)的方向?
01:11:155(4,1) - 距离略坑
01:21:691(1) - 缩短这个由01:21:869开始


[Angel]
AR + 1
- 不善于Insane的,只是个人意见
00:15:797(7,8,1) - 距离略坑
00:25:441(1,2,3,4,5) - 放星形?
00:37:583(3,5) - 方向向上吗?this
00:49:012(1,3) - 同上
00:50:798(2,3,4,5,6) - 这星形是故意的吗?
01:15:798(6,7) - 按Ctrl + G?
01:22:226(2,1) - 按Ctrl + G?
01:22:762(1,2) - 按Ctrl + G?

第一次mod图,试试看吧。加油!!
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

meetmeetdee wrote:

hi - m4m requested in game.
有点来迟了的Mod 没事的 考试时间嘛 大家都忙
都是一些个人建议
Let's Start!

[General]
- 在标题加上(Short Ver.)? 嗯 看来是要加的
- 没有video的吗? 个人觉得video效果不太好 而且尺寸小 而且有些镜头需要被河蟹 所以就没加
- 00:05:441 - 00:11:869 + 00:32:584 - 01:23:298 - missing claps? 有点奇怪 查了 没什么问题
[Easy]
- 有些过急和密集的感觉+滑条颇短 嗯 是有点 不过因为这歌BPM很低 所以其实还好
00:07:941 - 用这个吗? 嗯还不错 会简单一些 fixed
00:14:726(4) - 用这个吗? fixed
00:19:013(3) - 加reverse吗? 不加了 节奏有点密
00:21:513(2,3) - 用这个吗? 其实还可以 不过没加 一是因为加了也和歌词不很温和 二是因为我的note3是stack在滑条1的尾巴上的 换成滑条的话往哪边都不好看
00:28:655(3) - 用滑条?]this 不改 这里要和它们前一个combo的结构保持一致性
00:32:941(2,3) - 这样放好像较好]this sorry 我喜欢现在这个样子
00:42:584(2,3,4) - 用这个吗? 它其实原来是和你想的一样的 是一个开头用红锚点变速的滑条 不过被人说那种东西放在Easy不好 但是因为持续时间很长 所以弄成一般形状的滑条会破坏flow 所以就不打算改了
00:50:441(1,2) - 用滑条?如果用滑条的话,这样放好像较好this 其实都还好啦 我是想用3个note来配合歌词中的3个音的
- 个人认为这些reverse太短,看你换不换一下吧 嗯 明白你的意思 在E最好是不要用到1/4的没错 看看吧 有可能会改

[Normal]
- 在蓝线上放note有点奇怪 为了跟歌词才那样放的 大概还好 毕竟在那之前有足够长的准备时间
00:12:940(2,3) - 用这个这个鉴于这个点不是第一次被提出来了 就改了吧 采用了第一种 第二种的flow不好
00:17:940(2) - 用这个吗? fixed
00:21:155 - 加note fixed
00:22:226(5) - 这样没改 不太必要
00:26:155 - 00:27:047 - 这样fixed
00:28:297 - 加note 不加 位置很难摆
00:31:155 - 加note 加了note会被后面的滑条2的尾巴碰到 不美观
00:55:797(2) - 用直滑条 不,为了包后面的3
01:06:512 - 加note
01:06:869 - 加note
01:07:940 - 加note
01:08:297 - 加note
01:17:940 - 加note
01:18:297 - 加note
01:19:369 - 加note
01:19:726 - 加note 这些空当就是为了不让后面的蓝线开始的滑条太难才留的 所以一律不加东西
01:21:690(1) - 缩短这个由01:21:869开始 不改了 要跟vocal就跟到底
- 有点急,例如00:09:726(2,3,4,5,6),对于Normal可能有点难,但个人认为都可以接受 嗯 理解,毕竟歌比较慢 其实还好

[Hard]
AR + 1 AR已经7了 不会加了 这么慢的歌 它曾经还是AR6呢
- 不同节奏的重叠,略坑 不是很理解你的意思 应该还好吧……
00:22:227(4,5) - 这样不顺
00:26:513(2,3,4,5,6,1) - 有点乱,把00:27:941(1)放到别处? 不太打算改这个梗
00:30:797(3) - 用弯滑条 用弯滑条又包不住前一个滑条 我还是想用直的配合后面的滑条 好看些 我觉得
00:39:370(1,2,3,1) - 没叠好 fixed
00:47:583(3) - 未拉好,或许这样放?this 不动 想和1重叠
00:47:583(3,4) - 没叠好 fixed 感觉最近的osu编辑器里面note和滑条头尾重叠判定有bug
00:48:655 - 加note 有点怪
00:51:870(1) - 用note? 关系不大吧 没改
00:52:227(2) - 未拉好 应该可以了
00:56:511(1,2,3,4,5) - 增加彼此的距离? 和00:55:797(1,2)一样有点坑 其实这对于这图整体的物件间距来讲已经不算很近了……
01:06:513(3,1) - 略坑,逆转01:06:513(3)的方向? CTRL+G是吧? 改了
01:11:155(4,1) - 距离略坑 换了位置
01:21:691(1) - 缩短这个由01:21:869开始 不改 跟人声


[Angel]
AR + 1 暂时没动 毕竟BPM100都不到 AR9感觉太快了
- 不善于Insane的,只是个人意见
00:15:797(7,8,1) - 距离略坑 改了排版
00:25:441(1,2,3,4,5) - 放星形? 不 这和前面2个3连打的位置是呼应的
00:37:583(3,5) - 方向向上吗?this 不动了 我觉得这样挺好
00:49:012(1,3) - 同上
00:50:798(2,3,4,5,6) - 这星形是故意的吗? 这里有什么很奇怪的么 是和后面的滑条位置照应的
01:15:798(6,7) - 按Ctrl + G? 改了 好像有点意思
01:22:226(2,1) - 按Ctrl + G? ^
01:22:762(1,2) - 按Ctrl + G? 没啥必要 没动

第一次mod图,试试看吧。加油!!
真的吗?那很厉害了!谢谢~
TheVileOne
Late mod is better than no mod at all.

Easy

00:08:670 (1,2) - Should be 1.0.
00:12:241 (1,2) - Align better.
00:14:027 (3,4) - Bad transition. Don't be lazy now.
00:29:384 (1,2,3) - Something about this doesn't look right. 1 is higher than 3. Pattern should be level.
00:47:241 (2,3) - Not the greatest looking pattern IMO. Maybe try a smoother transition? Sliders like this 00:47:955 (3) - are rough and don't make great looking patterns usually. example pattern: http://puu.sh/1QKAt You could keep in mind 00:49:026 (1,2) - which is smooth and create a symmetry pattern here. (also take note that just because I don't mention previous sliders that are rough, doesn't invalidate my response. Smooth patterns generally look better. If you wanted to convert your other pattern, that is up to you.)
00:59:027 (1,2,3) - Rough looking pattern. 3 looks disproportionately farther away from the rest of the pattern. 01:10:455 (1,2,3) - looks a lot better. Use this as a template.

Normal

00:26:885 (2,3,4) - Maybe have some more curve here? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/578744
00:42:599 (4) - Curve could wrap around the note better with an extra point. http://puu.sh/1QL8j It's more polished IMO.
00:45:814 (3) - Unsnapped
00:46:171 (1,2,3,4) - all these blankets can be improved. Make each slider starts center within the previous slider's arc.
00:59:385 (3,4) - Repeat slider fits better here IMO.
01:17:242 (3) - finish on end? It would give focus to these parts.
01:18:670 (2) - ^

Hard
You have unsnapped notes- check aimod.

00:13:669 (4,1) - Jump feels forced to me. IMO i wouldn't have a jump here. But it could just my mouse being weird.
00:16:526 (5,6) - Not lined up. Move 5 up a few grids.
00:19:740 (6,1) - Kind of far for the pace of the notes, and the BPM. Don't necessarily have to fix, but it's probably not the most proper way to represent the beat.
00:21:527 (2,3,4) - Fix the overlap?
00:22:954 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I just can't imagine the music like this. I think it's important to make sure the map is a representation of the music, and these kind of cross pattern just seem foreign and unlike the music. also i think the jump segment is here 00:23:669 (2,3) - not at 1,2. It's better to have a jump there rather than before it IMO.
00:27:955 (1,2) - Normal sampleset doesn't sound right to me. Actually it's probably that fact that these are sliders instead of notes that makes it sound so bad. They seem to sound alright without the normal samplesets added. Also I think it would be better if 2 was parallel to 1. Please use the same angle for both sliders. Example; http://puu.sh/1QMbJ
00:30:811 (3,1) - Avoid this overlap if possible.
00:47:597 (3) - Strange slider. I suggest something that fits better. (something with a consistent curve)
00:54:027 (4) - Not sure I like overlapping a slider like this.
00:58:669 (1,2,3) - I suggest equal spacing here. It just plays a lot more intuitively. It even forms a nice pattern http://puu.sh/1QMqC
01:10:455 (1,2,3,4) - Angle is off. Try moving 01:10:991 (3) - to x 260 y 233 and 01:11:169 (4) - to x 251 y 245
01:15:097 (2,3) - Transition isn't straight. Move second point of 3 to x 232 y 283.
01:19:384 (3,1,2) - Lower spacing to 1.50? Actually i recommend you just remove 1. It's not following the beat and is unneeded. Plays better without it.
01:20:098 (4,5,6) - You should fix transitions that stack upward. If you manual place the stack to prevent this, it would be better. Try moving 01:20:991 (5,6) to x 194 y 163, - .

Angel

00:12:419 (3,4,5) - Jumps not based off of the beat >.< It would be better if the singer was actually singing on beat. Oh well.
00:20:098 (1,2,3,4,5) - Start on the horizontal line? It's a better approach IMO.
00:28:491 (7,1,2,3) - I don't like that you slowed down the pace so suddenly. You can more naturally transition to the slow pace by increasing the spacing at 1,2. Consider doing so.
00:59:027 (1,2,3) - Flows badly. a simple triple here would suffice.
01:00:098 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this plays even worse. Where are the beats? i can barely hear them but yet you expect players to play large jumps based off them. You should delete 01:00:991 (3) - , and 01:01:170 (4,5,1) - should have the same spacing since they go together. I highly recommend sticking to this timeline. This is the beat. http://puu.sh/1QNru Anything other than this is overmapped.
01:04:205 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily confusing. Stacking 6,1 seems like the proper approach here. It sounds like it should be stacked.
01:15:455 (4,5) - Such an unnatural jump IMO. This transition is very awkward and not like the beat at all. I highly recommend lowering the spacing.
01:22:776 (1,2) - Nazi- isn't exactly straight

Conclusion

This beatmap set is rough. Your pattern usage includes very sharp transitions that are hit or miss in fitting the song in general. You're lucky that falls under personal preference. Keep getting opinions, it's not far away from a bubble, but you have to weed badly flowing patterns.
Sonnyc

TheVileOne wrote:

Late mod is better than no mod at all.
SUPER sorry for the Super delay ;_;

Most of your notes are unsnapped by +1. Resnap them all (aimod doesn't catch)

Easy:

00:39:741 (1) - Some more symmetry please
00:45:098 (2) - Make this a curve to interact with (1)
00:59:384 (2) - Uhh,, 1 grid left?
01:20:812 (2) - Add soft-Finish at the end

Normal:

00:28:312 - Add a note
00:37:956 (1) - Honestly, I didn't liked this slider.. since it's too sharp. (also in Easy)
00:57:242 (4) - Place this somewhere else
01:05:813 (3) - Whistle
01:07:063 (1,2) - ^
01:17:242 (3,2) - ^

Hard:

00:16:704 (6) - Make a line with (5)
00:31:527 (1) - Make the spacing like what you've done at 00:30:097 (2,3)
00:40:812 (1) - Line with previous slider
00:42:598 (3) - Overlap with the previous slider? I don't think this as a good idea.. If you want to leave this, at least try to follow 00:41:527 (2)
01:00:098 (1) - Neatly please

Angel:

-- Some were playable, but lots of jumps weren't that expectable to me...

00:48:311 (7) - Make the shake(?) little weaker. Current shape isn't perfect for me
00:50:098 (4) - 1 Grid Right to not make this touch (2)
00:57:241 (5) - More symmetry
01:15:634 (5) - Unexpected jump, I think..
Datzuke-Oni
I like
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Datzuke-Oni wrote:

I like
^_^ glad that you did~
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

TheVileOne wrote:

SPOILER
Late mod is better than no mod at all. Yeah, it's true

Easy

00:08:670 (1,2) - Should be 1.0. fixed
00:12:241 (1,2) - Align better. fixed
00:14:027 (3,4) - Bad transition. Don't be lazy now. Oh, note actually lazy, fine now imo
00:29:384 (1,2,3) - Something about this doesn't look right. 1 is higher than 3. Pattern should be level. fixed
00:47:241 (2,3) - Not the greatest looking pattern IMO. Maybe try a smoother transition? Sliders like this 00:47:955 (3) - are rough and don't make great looking patterns usually. example pattern: http://puu.sh/1QKAt You could keep in mind 00:49:026 (1,2) - which is smooth and create a symmetry pattern here. (also take note that just because I don't mention previous sliders that are rough, doesn't invalidate my response. Smooth patterns generally look better. If you wanted to convert your other pattern, that is up to you.) fixed
00:59:027 (1,2,3) - Rough looking pattern. 3 looks disproportionately farther away from the rest of the pattern. 01:10:455 (1,2,3) - looks a lot better. Use this as a template. fixed

Normal

00:26:885 (2,3,4) - Maybe have some more curve here? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/578744 fixed in another way
00:42:599 (4) - Curve could wrap around the note better with an extra point. http://puu.sh/1QL8j It's more polished IMO. changed without an extra point, cause I think it's not that nice-looking with your idea
00:45:814 (3) - Unsnapped Oops
00:46:171 (1,2,3,4) - all these blankets can be improved. Make each slider starts center within the previous slider's arc. make them delicate
00:59:385 (3,4) - Repeat slider fits better here IMO. want to keep consistency wth the latter one
01:17:242 (3) - finish on end? It would give focus to these parts. Ok, add in each diff
01:18:670 (2) - ^ ^

Hard
You have unsnapped notes- check aimod. fixed all

00:13:669 (4,1) - Jump feels forced to me. IMO i wouldn't have a jump here. But it could just my mouse being weird. not feel like a change
00:16:526 (5,6) - Not lined up. Move 5 up a few grids. changed 6 instead
00:19:740 (6,1) - Kind of far for the pace of the notes, and the BPM. Don't necessarily have to fix, but it's probably not the most proper way to represent the beat. not changing it currently, will reconsider
00:21:527 (2,3,4) - Fix the overlap? fixed
00:22:954 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I just can't imagine the music like this. I think it's important to make sure the map is a representation of the music, and these kind of cross pattern just seem foreign and unlike the music. also i think the jump segment is here 00:23:669 (2,3) - not at 1,2. It's better to have a jump there rather than before it IMO. hmm, I made it like this for I think the vocal seems fluently so I set jumps at its either side
00:27:955 (1,2) - Normal sampleset doesn't sound right to me. Actually it's probably that fact that these are sliders instead of notes that makes it sound so bad. They seem to sound alright without the normal samplesets added. Also I think it would be better if 2 was parallel to 1. Please use the same angle for both sliders. Example; http://puu.sh/1QMbJ fixed
00:30:811 (3,1) - Avoid this overlap if possible. fixed a series of placement
00:47:597 (3) - Strange slider. I suggest something that fits better. (something with a consistent curve) fixed
00:54:027 (4) - Not sure I like overlapping a slider like this. hmm not gonna change
00:58:669 (1,2,3) - I suggest equal spacing here. It just plays a lot more intuitively. It even forms a nice pattern http://puu.sh/1QMqC fixed
01:10:455 (1,2,3,4) - Angle is off. Try moving 01:10:991 (3) - to x 260 y 233 and 01:11:169 (4) - to x 251 y 245 fixed in another way
01:15:097 (2,3) - Transition isn't straight. Move second point of 3 to x 232 y 283. fixed
01:19:384 (3,1,2) - Lower spacing to 1.50? Actually i recommend you just remove 1. It's not following the beat and is unneeded. Plays better without it. [/color]
01:20:098 (4,5,6) - You should fix transitions that stack upward. If you manual place the stack to prevent this, it would be better. Try moving 01:20:991 (5,6) to x 194 y 163, - . thought I mad them nice now

Angel

00:12:419 (3,4,5) - Jumps not based off of the beat >.< It would be better if the singer was actually singing on beat. Oh well. =.=
00:20:098 (1,2,3,4,5) - Start on the horizontal line? It's a better approach IMO. Ok
00:28:491 (7,1,2,3) - I don't like that you slowed down the pace so suddenly. You can more naturally transition to the slow pace by increasing the spacing at 1,2. Consider doing so. I think that I indicates this with a finish sound=.=
00:59:027 (1,2,3) - Flows badly. a simple triple here would suffice. Ok then
01:00:098 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this plays even worse. Where are the beats? i can barely hear them but yet you expect players to play large jumps based off them. You should delete 01:00:991 (3) - , and 01:01:170 (4,5,1) - should have the same spacing since they go together. I highly recommend sticking to this timeline. This is the beat. http://puu.sh/1QNru Anything other than this is overmapped. hmm, you're right in a certain extent
01:04:205 (5,6,1) - This is unnecessarily confusing. Stacking 6,1 seems like the proper approach here. It sounds like it should be stacked. fixed
01:15:455 (4,5) - Such an unnatural jump IMO. This transition is very awkward and not like the beat at all. I highly recommend lowering the spacing. lower the spacing for this has been mentioned more than once
01:22:776 (1,2) - Nazi- isn't exactly straight fixed

Conclusion

This beatmap set is rough. Your pattern usage includes very sharp transitions that are hit or miss in fitting the song in general. You're lucky that falls under personal preference. Keep getting opinions, it's not far away from a bubble, but you have to weed badly flowing patterns. Thx for the opinions, I didn't really consider about the transition things
Thx for your mod~
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Sonnyc wrote:

TheVileOne wrote:

Late mod is better than no mod at all.
SUPER sorry for the Super delay ;_; owo

Most of your notes are unsnapped by +1. Resnap them all (aimod doesn't catch) fixed but not sure if fixed all

Easy:

00:39:741 (1) - Some more symmetry please fixed
00:45:098 (2) - Make this a curve to interact with (1) fixed
00:59:384 (2) - Uhh,, 1 grid left? fixed
01:20:812 (2) - Add soft-Finish at the end add in each diff

Normal:

00:28:312 - Add a note nope
00:37:956 (1) - Honestly, I didn't liked this slider.. since it's too sharp. (also in Easy) =.=
00:57:242 (4) - Place this somewhere else fixed
01:05:813 (3) - Whistle
01:07:063 (1,2) - ^
01:17:242 (3,2) - ^ not fond of these

Hard:

00:16:704 (6) - Make a line with (5) fixed
00:31:527 (1) - Make the spacing like what you've done at 00:30:097 (2,3) fixed
00:40:812 (1) - Line with previous slider fixed
00:42:598 (3) - Overlap with the previous slider? I don't think this as a good idea.. If you want to leave this, at least try to follow 00:41:527 (2) make them overlap better
01:00:098 (1) - Neatly please fixed in a certain extent

Angel:

-- Some were playable, but lots of jumps weren't that expectable to me... changed a bit=.=

00:48:311 (7) - Make the shake(?) little weaker. Current shape isn't perfect for me fixed
00:50:098 (4) - 1 Grid Right to not make this touch (2) fixed
00:57:241 (5) - More symmetry fixed
01:15:634 (5) - Unexpected jump, I think..
lowered the spacing

Thx for your mod~
Carlos
Hi!!! time for taiko mod! R= red notes B= blue notes ewe

kurosanyan's taiko muzukashii:

I think it doesn't need a mod, for a muzukashii diff its pretty cool.

kurosanyan's taiko oni:

00:22:122 (1) - I think that a slider must be better at this point, instead of the spinner

01:14:027 (1) - 01:14:384 (4) - just another little thing, this RRRR must sound better with a RBBR.

and if you want, set the initial slider velocity to 2.0

hope I help :D
Kurosanyan

Rock Forever wrote:

kurosanyan's taiko oni:

00:22:122 (1) - I think that a slider must be better at this point, instead of the spinner With this bpm, it's 1/8 sliders, so no.

01:14:027 (1) - 01:14:384 (4) - just another little thing, this RRRR must sound better with a RBBR. I'll check this one when I can go on osu and will edit my post

and if you want, set the initial slider velocity to 2.0 No I prefer to keep this SV.
Carlos
ewe
Kurosanyan
Well nope, checked and didn't like at all how it sounds with dkkd.
Also it sounds exactly like 01:02:598 (1,2,3,4) - so those patterns should be the same.
Melt
:3
mod as request

[General]
  • 00:12:241 - 00:32:598这一段感觉clap声音略大 可以考虑减一点音量
[Easy]
  • 00:39:741(1)whistle换成soft的finish? 这里哨音感觉不舒服 其他diff也是
    00:51:170(3)改成这样的节奏试试
[Normal]
  • 00:18:312(3,4)感觉这样排要好一些
    00:27:241(4)可以再多折一次
    00:49:205(5)spin可以在后面的短白线开始
[Hard]
  • 00:16:527(5)x:32 y:243
    00:32:955(4,5,6)排成这个样子好看些00:56:527(1)这个nc换成combo colour2 1,3的差别实在太小
[Angel]
  • 00:14:920(4)左一格
    00:47:062(2,3,4,5)下一格
大概就是这些 加油
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Melt wrote:

:3
mod as request

[General]
  • 00:12:241 - 00:32:598这一段感觉clap声音略大 可以考虑减一点音量
嘛 不错的建议

[Easy]
  • 00:39:741(1)whistle换成soft的finish? 这里哨音感觉不舒服 其他diff也是 试了下……差不多 没改
    00:51:170(3)改成这样的节奏试试http://puu.sh/1XLLo
想留后门的白线上的finish音……

[Normal]
  • 00:18:312(3,4)感觉这样排要好一些 感觉所谓不大 排版不太好改><
    00:27:241(4)可以再多折一次 有人建议我后面加note我觉得flow不太好 这样改好像还可以……虽然我不是特别喜欢这种这么长的reverse折返2次 不过好像还是无可厚非吧 改了 把后面的滑条位置也调合适了
    00:49:205(5)spin可以在后面的短白线开始
没必要

[Hard]
  • 00:16:527(5)x:32 y:243 3和5都移到(33,243)了
    00:32:955(4,5,6)排成这个样子好看些 还可以 不过感觉不顺手 没动
    00:56:527(1)这个nc换成combo colour2 1,3的差别实在太小
嗯 不错

[Angel]
  • 00:14:920(4)左一格 fixed
    00:47:062(2,3,4,5)下一格
不明所以 没动

大概就是这些 加油
哇 神效率 谢谢了!
wantuole
SPOILER
19:55 wantuole: :3
19:55 *wantuole is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/197495 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so...]
19:55 Zero__wind: 来咯
19:59 wantuole: 先看angel难度
19:59 wantuole: DS不用说了 有些跳太远
20:00 wantuole: 00:12:419 (3,4,5) - 这个叠加不是很nice 牵强了点
20:01 Zero__wind: 嘛 觉得节奏太紧?
20:01 wantuole: 00:24:027 (3,4,5) - ctrl+h 右边被空着了
20:01 Zero__wind: 还是位置问题
20:01 wantuole: 手感问题 玩起来觉得坑
20:01 wantuole: 顺着slider的弧度 或者小三角什么的
20:01 Zero__wind: 哦
20:02 wantuole: 主要是不能叠在前面的00:10:812 (1,2,3,4,1) - 这上面
20:03 Zero__wind: 0.0
20:03 Zero__wind: 这个是为啥
20:03 wantuole: note叠多不好看 而且不好玩
20:03 wantuole: 多弄点三角 四角会好很多
20:03 Zero__wind: 我准备00:12:776 (5) - 不动 3顺着滑条走 4微调 摆成三角
20:04 wantuole: 尽量保持屏幕不拥挤
20:04 Zero__wind: 4嗯
20:05 wantuole: 00:21:169 (1,2,3,4) - 类似这种 屏幕上比较丰满的比较适合新手使用
20:06 Zero__wind: 嗯
20:06 wantuole: 00:24:027 (3,4,5) - 这个对齐到右边 ctrl+h 为了左右的平均
20:06 Zero__wind: 我比较倾向于在一个地方折腾一下儿然后简单地过度到另一块儿
20:06 Zero__wind: 嗯 看到了
20:07 wantuole: 从选曲上 这种歌就不可能有那么密集的note让你做区域感
20:07 Zero__wind: 嗯
20:08 wantuole: 00:26:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - 叠的太多
20:08 wantuole: 00:30:812 (5,6,7) - 过渡到后面是对称的话 这个组合应该也是围绕中心结束
20:08 Zero__wind: 那我保持这种左下右上这种方向的点和滑条对跳 但是变间距?
20:09 Zero__wind: 00:30:812 (5) - 这个我想和前面一个滑条岔开的
20:09 wantuole: 不保证效果好 这种bpm很难度出区域感
20:10 Zero__wind: 哦
20:11 wantuole: 00:34:741 (2,3) - 这里跳的不明不白
20:12 wantuole: 这里跳ds偏大 后面接了个5角
20:12 Zero__wind: 嘛 那我就让2绕着1往左上吧
20:12 Zero__wind: 我觉得这个DS是有水分的啊 所以……
20:12 Zero__wind: 因为毕竟前面的是滑条
20:12 wantuole: 后面接的5角星才是水分
20:12 Zero__wind: 呃
20:13 wantuole: 大跳别怕 后面note把中间空的部分填充起来才重要
20:14 wantuole: 01:17:955 (1,2,3,1,2) - 这种
20:14 Zero__wind: =。=
20:14 Zero__wind: 会挂掉么
20:15 wantuole: 很少采用完全倒退
20:15 wantuole: 部分remap
20:15 wantuole: 节奏和梗可以
20:16 wantuole: 然后hard难度 :D
20:17 wantuole: 依旧ds问题 虽然高难度不要求ds固定 还是要有的
20:18 wantuole: 00:26:527 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ 叠加问题
20:18 wantuole: 00:32:420 (2,3,4,5,6) - 这组叠加是比较nice的
20:18 Zero__wind: 哦
20:20 wantuole: 00:55:812 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - ^
20:20 Zero__wind: 五角和前2个不叠比较好?
20:20 Zero__wind: 还是叠好
20:21 wantuole: 衔接问题 不明不白的跳五角
20:21 Zero__wind: 不是很明显的五个音的旋律么)。0
20:22 wantuole: =,=请处理的好一点
20:22 Zero__wind: 0.0
20:23 wantuole: 00:54:027 (4) - 这个后面衔接的五角星 两个毫无关联
20:24 wantuole: 很明显的断梗
20:24 Zero__wind: 哦
20:24 wantuole: 01:00:098 (1) - 盖住太多节奏了
20:24 Zero__wind: 嗯
20:25 wantuole: 拖拉了难度 这种更适合的难度出现
20:25 Zero__wind: 唔 Hard本来也没想做成可以当作I的Hard……
20:26 wantuole: 。。
20:26 wantuole: 继续nor
20:26 Zero__wind: 没事 我缩短到So那个音结束的地方就好了 然后补一些节奏
20:27 Zero__wind: 我当时弄成那么长的考虑 呃 好像是因为画紧了不好看 啧啧
20:27 Zero__wind: 没事 我再试试了
20:27 wantuole: 00:23:670 (1,2,3) -
20:27 Zero__wind: 太紧了?
20:27 wantuole: 嗯
20:28 Zero__wind: 00:28:670 (1,2,3) - 那这个呢
20:28 wantuole: 过关是可以 但是尽量避免
20:28 wantuole: 尽量不要这么搞吧 都已经很慢了 没必要再叠加变慢
20:29 wantuole: 00:49:206 (1) - 白线开始转
20:29 Zero__wind: 那我就把00:29:563 (2) - 变成一个二分拍滑条重排版就好了
20:29 Zero__wind: 哦 spinner这有什么讲究么
20:29 wantuole: 低难度不会过关 我确定
20:29 Zero__wind: 我好像北来来回回地抠过这个点
20:30 wantuole: 因为真的不会过关
20:30 Zero__wind: 其实我最开始是白线起的…瞎
20:31 Zero__wind: 00:54:028 (1,2) - 这个会不会挂 我一直保持很耸的心态
20:31 Zero__wind: 虽然最近的mod没有一个人提到过
20:31 Zero__wind: 不过我自己挺没谱儿的
20:31 wantuole: 这个很不错啊
20:31 Zero__wind: DS=。=
20:32 Zero__wind: 大丈夫?
20:32 wantuole: 把1调下就好
20:33 Zero__wind: 包的弧度稍微小一点儿的意思?
20:33 wantuole: 随便改-,- 没必要把2扔在1中间
20:33 Zero__wind: ……
20:33 wantuole: 别想多了 头几张图就想弄好这种包梗和让位梗 很难的
20:33 Zero__wind: 哦哦
20:34 Zero__wind: 亚历山大
20:35 wantuole: 0 0easy不错
20:35 wantuole: 过关 中等偏上水平
20:36 Zero__wind: 哈哈 草莓大大教我弄的
20:37 wantuole: 骚年走了不少弯路啊 要先从低的难度开始弄
20:37 Zero__wind: 0.0
20:37 Zero__wind: 走了……非常多的弯路……
20:37 wantuole: 说实话 现在的hard和最后难度 是要remap摆设的
20:38 wantuole: 叠加把握和摆设衔接很差
20:38 Zero__wind: 哦
20:39 wantuole: 尽量先避免弱项 就爬行着摆 不叠加 填满屏幕就好
20:39 wantuole: 就这样先 我去post了 :D
20:39 Zero__wind: 嗯
BounceBabe
Hi, M4M!

General

You have so many different BG, reduce it to one

Easy

This diff behaves like a Normal, you should try to make it easier

Normal

00:09:742 (2,3,4,5,6) - Pattern is too hard for a players which has just come out of playing Easys, try to make this different

00:37:956 (1) - Unnecessary NC, remove it
00:54:028 (1) - ^
01:21:706 (1) - Move this to 01:21:527 - so its more playable for beginners

Hard

00:25:098 (6,2) - Stack these properly
00:32:954 (4,5,6) - I advise to not use this pattern in Hard, should be part of Insanes
00:35:812 (3,1) - Spacing between is too big, move the 1 closer


Insane

01:04:027 (4,5) - Jumps a little too big, make a normal spacing
01:17:241 (2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - This is unrankable unless its an Aproval map, change this so the circle are seen obviously
01:21:704 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Make this spacing consistent here, it doesnt fit one bit


GL
Autumn
Hi
其实你post的时候我的queue是Open for M4M only的...嘛既然已经po了我就来看看吧
[General]
Angel难度不错,其他几个难度短滑条太多,这种flow缺乏连续性,而且短滑条在控制flow的方向上存在缺陷(因为你没办法把他掰弯..低难度下只能采取头尾相连的形式,如Normal里的00:09:742 (2,3,4,5,6),这样不是很好看。)
低难度下多试试单点叠长滑条,而不是连续的短滑条~

[Easy]
除了Flow还可改更流畅一些以外,没问题

[Normal]
00:24:205 (2) - 放下去:
00:26:171 (1) - 向下弯:
00:59:742 (4,5) - 调整:

[Hard]
00:20:097 (1,2,3) - 这种flow不好看啊..给你一个备用方案:
00:48:848 (4) - 蓝线弱起节奏感不好,尽量避免这类情况。建议把00:47:598 (3) 改成二分拍,然后再加个长滑条填充:
00:33:669 (6) - 对准00:32:777 (3) :

[Angel]
01:15:634 (5,6,7,1) - 建议去掉01:15:634 (5) ,后面三个改成三角跳:(因为原来的跳从蓝线弱拍开始)
例如:

01:17:955 (1,2,3) - 滑条挡note..有点危险。错开的话反而更好看:
后面也是..如果觉得太跳可以改变下01:17:955 (1,2,3) - 的方向.

That's all.
希望能帮到你.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Autumn wrote:

Hi
其实你post的时候我的queue是Open for M4M only的...嘛既然已经po了我就来看看吧 唔没有注意到……非常感谢
[General]
Angel难度不错,其他几个难度短滑条太多,这种flow缺乏连续性,而且短滑条在控制flow的方向上存在缺陷(因为你没办法把他掰弯..低难度下只能采取头尾相连的形式,如Normal里的00:09:742 (2,3,4,5,6),这样不是很好看。) /。\ 感觉那时候散点摆得很烂就没好意思摆……
低难度下多试试单点叠长滑条,而不是连续的短滑条~ 可以理解

[Easy]
除了Flow还可改更流畅一些以外,没问题 自己改了一点点

[Normal]
00:24:205 (2) - 放下去:fixed
00:26:171 (1) - 向下弯:fixed
00:59:742 (4,5) - 调整:fixed 以及后面的

[Hard]
00:20:097 (1,2,3) - 这种flow不好看啊..给你一个备用方案: 采用了类似的形状 但是1和2是错开的
00:48:848 (4) - 蓝线弱起节奏感不好,尽量避免这类情况。建议把00:47:598 (3) 改成二分拍,然后再加个长滑条填充: 类似改法 只是我把滑条4拉成四分之三拍去掉了5
00:33:669 (6) - 对准00:32:777 (3) : 不是很喜欢这感觉 没动 会再考虑

[Angel]
01:15:634 (5,6,7,1) - 建议去掉01:15:634 (5) ,后面三个改成三角跳:(因为原来的跳从蓝线弱拍开始) fixed
01:17:955 (1,2,3) - 滑条挡note..有点危险。错开的话反而更好看: finally它们被拉出来了 不过和前面的长滑条是错开的

That's all.
希望能帮到你.
十分有帮助!!!!!
Lally
Hi from Andrea's and Lally's Mod4Mod Queue ♥

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in combo colours:

Angel :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86

Hard :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170

Normal :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86

Easy :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171

  1. Inconsistency in Tags:
Angel : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Hard : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Normal : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Easy : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Kurosanyan's Taiko Muzukashii : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel Kurosanyan
Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel Kurosanyan

[Easy]
suggestion : why don't you start your diffs with a spinner that start 00:02:955 - and end 00:05:813
  1. 00:20:098 (4) - why don't you try something like this? it will br more simpler to read for beginners
  2. 00:26:527 (1,2) - spacing
  3. 00:30:455 (3,1) - spacing
  4. 00:32:955 (2,3) - spacing
  5. 00:37:598 (5) - this slider is not simmetric :X
  6. 00:44:384 (1,2,1,2,3) - spacing is inconsistent here
  7. 00:52:598 (2,3,4,1) - this pattern can be confusefull for beginners, try something like that:
  8. 00:55:812 (1,2,3) - make spacing consistent with other parts continue to using 1.0
  9. 01:02:598 (2,3,1) - spacing o3o
  10. 01:14:027 (2,3) - spacing
[Normal]
  1. 00:54:027 (4,1) - spacing
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:098 (4.5) - remove one repeat from this sliders it will fit better with the music
  2. 00:51:884 (1) - it's overlapped with spinner comboburst
[Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni]
  1. 00:22:122 (1) - this spinner is so short ; 3 ;
[Angel]
  1. 00:16:527 (8) - this circle touch HP drain
  2. 00:42:598 (1) - i think this slider will be cuter and it will frow better if it has a U form
Andrea
Call me back once you've fixed Lally's mod.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Andrea wrote:

Call me back once you've fixed Lally's mod.
Sorry for this delay
I'm facing some problem pulling through the bugs of the editor currently =.=
Will fix and update asap
Thx!
Kurosanyan
The spinner in the oni is not too short so there's nothing to change in this mod for my taiko.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Kurosanyan wrote:

The spinner in the oni is not too short so there's nothing to change in this mod for my taiko.
Thx for checking that
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Lally wrote:

Hi from Andrea's and Lally's Mod4Mod Queue ♥

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in combo colours:

Angel :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 236,190,140
Combo3 : 220,86,86

Hard :
Combo1 : 198,224,184
Combo2 : 217,227,236
Combo3 : 253,238,170

Normal :
Combo1 : 255,128,64
Combo2 : 255,255,142
Combo3 : 138,74,86

Easy :
Combo1 : 170,208,223
Combo2 : 1,139,133
Combo3 : 143,156,171
I think this may not be a problem since I used different BGs

  1. Inconsistency in Tags:
Angel : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Hard : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Normal : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Easy : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel
Kurosanyan's Taiko Muzukashii : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel Kurosanyan
Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni : visual novel galgame Opening December when there is no angel Kurosanyan
fixed

[Easy]
suggestion : why don't you start your diffs with a spinner that start 00:02:955 - and end 00:05:813 hmm, an good idea, I also think a spinner is needed for an Easy diff. But this means changing this diff's offset. And I don't know if I need to change all the other diffs' offset together. Will discuuss this with Andrea
  1. 00:20:098 (4) - why don't you try something like this? it will br more simpler to read for beginners Ok fixed
  2. 00:26:527 (1,2) - spacing fixed
  3. 00:30:455 (3,1) - spacing fixed
  4. 00:32:955 (2,3) - spacing not changing it currently for I think this looks nice and as we know, the distance between ths two sliders are actually not as far as it shows. I think begginners should learn that it's not neccessary to move the cursor to the very end of a slider.
  5. 00:37:598 (5) - this slider is not simmetric :X Oh fixed
  6. 00:44:384 (1,2,1,2,3) - spacing is inconsistent here fixed
  7. 00:52:598 (2,3,4,1) - this pattern can be confusefull for beginners, try something like that Ok the stacks are gone
  8. 00:55:812 (1,2,3) - make spacing consistent with other parts continue to using 1.0 adjusted (2) and (3)'s distace inbetween but didn't chaged the one between (1) and (2) , the reason is the same as I mentioned above
  9. 01:02:598 (2,3,1) - spacing o3o ^
  10. 01:14:027 (2,3) - spacing ^
[Normal]
  1. 00:54:027 (4,1) - spacing Changed a smaller blancket
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:098 (4.5) - remove one repeat from this sliders it will fit better with the music nope, actually you're folling the dums and I'm following the melody inbehind
  2. 00:51:884 (1) - it's overlapped with spinner comboburst Ok they've gone elsewhere
[Angel]
  1. 00:16:527 (8) - this circle touch HP drain fixed
  2. 00:42:598 (1) - i think this slider will be cuter and it will frow better if it has a U form I know what you mean but sorry for not changing. Because 00:40:098 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3) - all these are actually a suit of objects and I want them fit each other.
Thx for modding~

Zero__wind wrote:

Andrea wrote:

Call me back once you've fixed Lally's mod.
Sorry for this delay
I'm facing some problem pulling through the bugs of the editor currently =.=
Will fix and update asap
Thx!
Andrea I'm ready for this.
Andrea
~General~

Tags between the difficulties are inconsistent and there is also an extra useless space.

Colours between the difficulties are inconsistent.

Offset is wrong, use 5.835 and resnap all notes, green lines, etc.


~Easy~

00:36:884 (4) - New combo.

~Normal~

Reduce AR by 1 tick.


01:00:099 (5) - New combo.
01:01:528 (1) - Remove new combo.

~Hard~

00:52:954 (3,4) - They look pretty bad to me.
01:07:955 (3) - Hidden slider repeat.

Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni

00:22:122 (1) - Do this instead of the spinner.

~Angel~

00:39:384 (8) - Random and unexpected slowdown.
00:48:311 (7) - Ugly slider.
01:14:027 (1) - This slider is really hard to see, please don't overlap it.
01:15:812 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I find this part pretty confusing, please remake it.

This map still need some more work.
mancuso_JM_

Andrea wrote:

~General~

Colours between the difficulties are inconsistent.
Well, this is not necessary to be fixed, since you use different BGs in all the difficulties.
Anyways i'm not here just to say that, I was preparing my mod but I saw Andrea's one.. So, I'll come back after to you fix Andrea's mod.
See you then ;)
Kurosanyan

Andrea wrote:

Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni

00:22:122 (1) - Do this instead of the spinner.
Not fitting really well imo, and not following the drums. I don't see what's the problem with this spinner.
Andrea
It's fine, just suggesting :3

Anyway mancuso, only if there are guest difficulties that's allowed, as far as I remember.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Andrea wrote:

~General~

Tags between the difficulties are inconsistent and there is also an extra useless space.

Colours between the difficulties are inconsistent.

Offset is wrong, use 5.835 and resnap all notes, green lines, etc.


~Easy~

00:36:884 (4) - New combo.

~Normal~

Reduce AR by 1 tick.


01:00:099 (5) - New combo.
01:01:528 (1) - Remove new combo.

~Hard~

00:52:954 (3,4) - They look pretty bad to me.
01:07:955 (3) - Hidden slider repeat.

Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni

00:22:122 (1) - Do this instead of the spinner.

~Angel~

00:39:384 (8) - Random and unexpected slowdown. currently with no good idea, and actually I don't think the present one is bad
00:48:311 (7) - Ugly slider. make it ordinary
01:14:027 (1) - This slider is really hard to see, please don't overlap it. Cgabged tgoroughly from here
01:15:812 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I find this part pretty confusing, please remake it. Let's see the new arrangement

This map still need some more work.
Fixed almost all and update for the other diffs, still working on some points in my Angel diff.
Actually I may need a discussion with Andrea about this, though I don't know when.
btw, I also changed the offset and other things in the Taiko diffs, so Kurosanyan you don't have to worry.
The combo colors are still not be changed, for I just thoroughly read the ranking criteria again and find nothing against this both in the rules and in the guidelines. And I think it will be fine looking for most players.
mancuso_JM_
Hi! Mod time! Sorry for the delay :/

[General:]

• Would be better if you can find other BGs for the Taiko difficulties, so all the difficulties have different BGs. In my opinion will look much better having different BGs in all diffs. instead of doing that.
Preview Time: The Preview Point is Slighty different comparing all difficulties. In Easy diff. the Preview Point is in 59049 and in the other difficulties is 58692. So, you must make it consistent between all the difficulties.
• 00:05:835 (1) - This Note sounds really Slow comparing with the music. Try using 45% in the Red line, will sound properly then.
• 00:06:549 (T) - In this Green Line try adding 10% in the Volume because sounds also low in all the diffs.

[Easy:]

Settings:
--> The HP Drain Rate is a bit low in this difficulty. Try increasing it by 1 Tick (HD+1)

• 00:21:549 (2) - In the Repetition, sounds better a finish instead of your Custom Whistle. So, it is better if you replace it here
• 00:51:192 (3,1) - This pattern sounds weird, it is not following properly anything in the music. To follow better the song (the Vocal especially) I suggest you to do something like this:
• 00:54:049 (1) - If you did the above suggestion, I feel this New Combo unnecesary. In my opinion it is better if you remove it from here
• 00:59:763 (3) - Replace this Slider in 2 Single Notes, the kiai it is the most important part in the song, so it is better if you starting it with a Click on a Note :P
• 01:07:263 (5) - I'd delete this Note, can be difficult to follow properly this pattern with these 1/4.. Maybe a rest deleating this note is the best option
• 01:22:977 (3) - I think that a Soft Whistle sounds better than a Normal Whistle in this Note. Would be better if you replace that.

One more thing at the end: Add a Spinner (at least) to make a variety in the score, if you don't do that we will have a lot of similar scores if the map is in the Ranked Status.

- In general you did a good job with this difficulty, anyways I dislike the way that you used the spacing. In my opinion you should re-arrange all the patterns using 1.10x in the Distance Spacing, give it a try pls.

[Normal:]

• 00:27:263 (4) - The second Reverse Arrow in this Slider is almost covered by the hitburst of (3), you should do something to fix the mistake because it is unrankable stuff.
• 00:29:763 (2) - Move this Note to x:220 y:192 for a better flow
• 00:48:334 (4) - *A bit Nazi*- But this pattern can be clean up a bit more. Actually the previous Slider (2) gives a bad ''Hitburst Overlap'' to this Slider, to avoid that overlap you can try blanketing, like here:
• 00:56:549 (2) - I would remove the Whistle from the Sliderbody, actually sounds annoying to me.
• 00:57:084 (x) - Hmm.. A note here is pretty necessary imo.
• 01:06:370 - 01:06:906 - Why did not you map this section? You did it in Easy, and easy diff. is supposed to be easier than a Normal of course. You should map this blank section as you did in easy, will play much better
• 01:07:799 - 01:08:334 - (^)
• 01:17:799 - 01:18:334 - (^)
• 01:19:227 - 01:19:763 - (^)
• 01:22:977 (4) - Same as Easy, use Soft Finish instead of Normal.

- Not bad, but map this blanks spaces mentioned in my mod, it provides a bad flow imo.

[Hard:]

• 00:10:120 (4,5) - These Sliders with 2 Repetitions don't flow that good, try using a pattern like this will flow better..
• 00:41:549 (2,3) - This kind of patterns are not to my liking, because they don't provide a good visibility of the pattern.. If I were you I'd change it inmediatley but it is up to you because we are talking about a personal think.
• 00:49:406 (Spin) - This Spinner sounds really random at the end, would be better if you map it instead.
• 00:52:977 (3,4) - Same thing as 00:41:549
• 00:56:549 (1,2,3,4,5) - Reversed pattern have always a bad flow, and this is not an exception it flows pretty bad. I suggest you to do a pattern more like this:
• 01:01:906 (2,3) - This Spacing is really random, because it doesn't fits with the music it is a really slow section and you used a jump, it doesn't make sense. Reduce the Spacing between the Notes pls.
• 01:03:334 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Again, this is really random, it is the kiai section but the section of the song is really slow, reduce the spacing between these Objects too pls, it doesn't make sense.
• 01:21:727 (1) - This Slider is not covering properly the Vocal, since it is a Hard would be better if you follow the Rhythm closely, so decompress this Slider in 2. 1st Slider start in 01:21:727 and finish in 01:21:906 and the 2nd Slider starts in 01:22:084 and finish in 01:22:263.

- This difficulty went well till the Kiai Time, I don't understand why you add unnecesary Jumps in a really slow part of the song. In addition, they were placed randomly, a little tip, if you want to add break in slow songs try adding them in Combo changes especially because on other places they will look random and without sense.

[Angel:]

- Wow, I dislike this diff at all. Sorry :(, it has the same problems as the kiai in Hard diff. A lot of unnecesaries and big jumps in a really slow song, this is not the kind of Insane that fits with this song. Would be unnecesary to mod that, but please reduce the jumps as much as you can because play bad with this song. I imagined a low level Insane before to see the diff. but when I saw the diff. I felt dissapointed really :(.

Btw, Both Taiko Difficulties look technically fine for me..

Well, that's all.
Easier diffs. and Taiko diffs. are well designed and should be ready to go, but Hardest one need more work before to be consider for Ranking, it looks repetitive but a lot of unnecessary jumps for a slow song..
Best of luck with your map (and please don't give up)
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

mancusojuanmattos wrote:

Hi! Mod time! Sorry for the delay :/

[General:]

• Would be better if you can find other BGs for the Taiko difficulties, so all the difficulties have different BGs. In my opinion will look much better having different BGs in all diffs. instead of doing that.
Preview Time: The Preview Point is Slighty different comparing all difficulties. In Easy diff. the Preview Point is in 59049 and in the other difficulties is 58692. So, you must make it consistent between all the difficulties.
• 00:05:835 (1) - This Note sounds really Slow comparing with the music. Try using 45% in the Red line, will sound properly then.
• 00:06:549 (T) - In this Green Line try adding 10% in the Volume because sounds also low in all the diffs.

[Easy:]

Settings:
--> The HP Drain Rate is a bit low in this difficulty. Try increasing it by 1 Tick (HD+1)

• 00:21:549 (2) - In the Repetition, sounds better a finish instead of your Custom Whistle. So, it is better if you replace it here sorry but I'm not fond of a finish here. There is one later.
• 00:51:192 (3,1) - This pattern sounds weird, it is not following properly anything in the music. To follow better the song (the Vocal especially) I suggest you to do something like this:
• 00:54:049 (1) - If you did the above suggestion, I feel this New Combo unnecesary. In my opinion it is better if you remove it from here
• 00:59:763 (3) - Replace this Slider in 2 Single Notes, the kiai it is the most important part in the song, so it is better if you starting it with a Click on a Note :P Didn't change for I think it's not neccessary, I consider the vocal here is long, so I placed a slider, also, to keep consistent with the latter one
• 01:07:263 (5) - I'd delete this Note, can be difficult to follow properly this pattern with these 1/4.. Maybe a rest deleating this note is the best option delete even more
• 01:22:977 (3) - I think that a Soft Whistle sounds better than a Normal Whistle in this Note. Would be better if you replace that. I know you mean a soft finish, changed

One more thing at the end: Add a Spinner (at least) to make a variety in the score, if you don't do that we will have a lot of similar scores if the map is in the Ranked Status. that's what Lally has already spoken and what I was considering. Changed each diffs' offset and add a spinner in Easy

- In general you did a good job with this difficulty, anyways I dislike the way that you used the spacing. In my opinion you should re-arrange all the patterns using 1.10x in the Distance Spacing, give it a try pls. Did it. Better now.

[Normal:]

• 00:27:263 (4) - The second Reverse Arrow in this Slider is almost covered by the hitburst of (3), you should do something to fix the mistake because it is unrankable stuff.
• 00:29:763 (2) - Move this Note to x:220 y:192 for a better flow
• 00:48:334 (4) - *A bit Nazi*- But this pattern can be clean up a bit more. Actually the previous Slider (2) gives a bad ''Hitburst Overlap'' to this Slider, to avoid that overlap you can try blanketing, like here: didn't fix in your way, but I did fixed a little and I think it's fine now
• 00:56:549 (2) - I would remove the Whistle from the Sliderbody, actually sounds annoying to me. It's a mistake. Removed the whistle on the body and remain the ones on the head and the end
• 00:57:084 (x) - Hmm.. A note here is pretty necessary imo.
• 01:06:370 - 01:06:906 - Why did not you map this section? You did it in Easy, and easy diff. is supposed to be easier than a Normal of course. You should map this blank section as you did in easy, will play much better
• 01:07:799 - 01:08:334 - (^)
• 01:17:799 - 01:18:334 - (^)
• 01:19:227 - 01:19:763 - (^) Actuall I'm afraid to make them too difficult(the notes start on blue tick), so I left them blank to give newbie players time to react. But, I filled the blank as you and some earlier modders suggested
• 01:22:977 (4) - Same as Easy, use Soft Finish instead of Normal.

- Not bad, but map this blanks spaces mentioned in my mod, it provides a bad flow imo.

[Hard:]

• 00:10:120 (4,5) - These Sliders with 2 Repetitions don't flow that good, try using a pattern like this will flow better.. I think they're fine and didn't change anything. You know that when players clicked a kick-slider, they won't move their cursor to follow, but stay and head for the next item.
• 00:41:549 (2,3) - This kind of patterns are not to my liking, because they don't provide a good visibility of the pattern.. If I were you I'd change it inmediatley but it is up to you because we are talking about a personal think. sorry for that, but not changing.
• 00:49:406 (Spin) - This Spinner sounds really random at the end, would be better if you map it instead. made it end earlier and add a few stuffs and I think they're fine now
• 00:52:977 (3,4) - Same thing as 00:41:549 =.=
• 00:56:549 (1,2,3,4,5) - Reversed pattern have always a bad flow, and this is not an exception it flows pretty bad. I suggest you to do a pattern more like this:
• 01:01:906 (2,3) - This Spacing is really random, because it doesn't fits with the music it is a really slow section and you used a jump, it doesn't make sense. Reduce the Spacing between the Notes pls big changes.
• 01:03:334 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Again, this is really random, it is the kiai section but the section of the song is really slow, reduce the spacing between these Objects too pls, it doesn't make sense. as above
• 01:21:727 (1) - This Slider is not covering properly the Vocal, since it is a Hard would be better if you follow the Rhythm closely, so decompress this Slider in 2. 1st Slider start in 01:21:727 and finish in 01:21:906 and the 2nd Slider starts in 01:22:084 and finish in 01:22:263. fixed in another way

- This difficulty went well till the Kiai Time, I don't understand why you add unnecesary Jumps in a really slow part of the song. In addition, they were placed randomly, a little tip, if you want to add break in slow songs try adding them in Combo changes especially because on other places they will look random and without sense.

[Angel:]

- Wow, I dislike this diff at all. Sorry :(, it has the same problems as the kiai in Hard diff. A lot of unnecesaries and big jumps in a really slow song, this is not the kind of Insane that fits with this song. Would be unnecesary to mod that, but please reduce the jumps as much as you can because play bad with this song. I imagined a low level Insane before to see the diff. but when I saw the diff. I felt dissapointed really :(. I'm sorry for that but I'm not gonna fix much. I did some changes during Kiai, for I think it's the only part which is too hard.

Btw, Both Taiko Difficulties look technically fine for me.. Glad to hear that

Well, that's all.
Easier diffs. and Taiko diffs. are well designed and should be ready to go, but Hardest one need more work before to be consider for Ranking, it looks repetitive but a lot of unnecessary jumps for a slow song..
Best of luck with your map (and please don't give up)
Thx for your mod. All what I didn't mention in my post is what I fixed.
And for everyone who has checked my map. Believe it or not, I didn't ever aim to make the [Angel] hard to play. I just want it to be different from piles of slow Insanes that already existed. Some big jumps which cames from some mods are not my initial setting. I tried it and gathered ideas for I think it might be fun. Now the jumps in the last part of the Kiai is gone, replaced by my original ones. And for the overlaps, this is what I wanna try in this mapset, so don't blame it if it's not your type of dish. Every new creation faces trouble when it's first seen. And believing in this, I'll try my best to remain this as a
Hard-to-Be-Ranked map while getting it ranked. I believe there woild be, and will be players who like this stuff. I Hope so...
Athena Tennos
神馬情況。。。感覺好厲害的樣子/w\
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Athena Tennos wrote:

神馬情況。。。感覺好厲害的樣子/w\
总觉得你想多了=。=
ps:我好像最近开始喜欢写论文了=。=是不是没救了
10nya

~ M4M from My Queue ~


Hi Zero__wind :D

General


  1. Add to tags: eroge ?

Easy

  1. 00:27:262 (2)- : Fix the distance pls n_n. Current one is 1.08
  2. 00:34:405 (1)- : move this to x256 y80 would be nice :D
  3. 00:39:762 (1)- : make the distance 1.13? current one is too close imo
  4. 00:43:334 (3)- : 1grid up?
Nothing on Normal

Hard

  1. 00:31:548 / 00:31:549 (1)- : try this slider?
    105,269,31549,6,0,P|60:240|48:192,2,100,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  2. 00:56:912 (3,4)- : Fix the distance? Q_Q

Angel

  1. 00:39:405 (8)- : NC. Because change of slider velocity >_<
that's all :D good luck
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

- t e n n y a - wrote:


~ M4M from My Queue ~


Hi Zero__wind :D

General


  1. Add to tags: eroge ?
Don't know if it;s neccessary, not changing for now

Easy

  1. 00:27:262 (2)- : Fix the distance pls n_n. Current one is 1.08 Oh I think it's fine
  2. 00:34:405 (1)- : move this to x256 y80 would be nice :D fixed
  3. 00:39:762 (1)- : make the distance 1.13? current one is too close imo fixed
  4. 00:43:334 (3)- : 1grid up?
halfNothing on Normal

Hard

  1. 00:31:548 / 00:31:549 (1)- : try this slider?
    105,269,31549,6,0,P|60:240|48:192,2,100,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    ok
  2. 00:56:912 (3,4)- : Fix the distance? Q_Q
Oh big mistake

Angel

  1. 00:39:405 (8)- : NC. Because change of slider velocity >_<
fixedthat's all :D good luck
Thx for your mod~
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
remapping [Angel] diff
put this into WIP currently
and after I finished this I'll need another round of mods for the new diff
Let's wait and see owo


[Angel] the diff is done again
Plz mod it!!!!
Rotte
no kds plz
Offset should be set 2953
qkenan
IRC mod~

SPOILER
16:38 Zero__wind: 求看图
16:38 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:38 Zero__wind: remap完了
16:39 Zero__wind: 简单到炸
16:39 Zero__wind: Redl一下 加了hitsound
16:39 qkenan: dling
16:41 Zero__wind: ·改得我已经快不会再爱了
16:41 Zero__wind: 昨天夜里一直想梗想到趴在桌子上睡着了都没想出来 不能多说
16:42 qkenan: 好辛苦^
16:43 qkenan: so 良心
16:43 Zero__wind: 是啊……
16:44 Zero__wind: 随手HDSS了
16:44 qkenan: 粗打一遍下来,感觉基本可以了
16:45 qkenan: 有些滑条还是有点,嗯哼
16:45 qkenan: 没有overmap
16:46 Zero__wind: 有点0.0 ?
16:46 qkenan: 美观问题,小事
16:46 Zero__wind: 哦
16:46 Zero__wind: 至少感觉流畅多了是吧……
16:46 qkenan: 是的~
16:46 qkenan: 没有前作那种比较牵强的jump
16:47 Zero__wind: 这要再碰到连mod都不写直接枪毙掉的状况我真不会再爱了=。=
16:48 qkenan: =。=
16:48 qkenan: 可怜的孩子
16:49 qkenan: 00:32:607 (2,3,4,5,6) -
16:49 qkenan: 已经有点像是你招牌式的HD梗了、
16:50 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 不好看
16:51 qkenan: 00:45:822 (1) - 从这开始很长一段都是一个方向转,感觉在短的slider方向上做点变化会好些,嘛,个人感觉
16:51 qkenan: 00:47:250 (4) - 比如这个Ctrl+G
16:52 qkenan: 00:52:250 (2) - 形状……
16:52 qkenan: 00:54:036 (1) - 形状……
16:53 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:53 qkenan: 00:57:250 (5) - 画个勺子就算了,别把棱角露出来
16:53 Zero__wind: 旋转问题上我很赞成……我感觉我一个方向都快转晕了
16:53 qkenan: 连续的几个同方向,是顺手,太多就是……嗯哼
16:54 Zero__wind: 对的
16:54 qkenan: 00:58:679
16:54 qkenan: 这开始的几个Drum音效有点突兀……
16:54 Zero__wind: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个有啥建议没 我当时画得时候就比较……#$%^&*()
16:54 Zero__wind: 那几个drum音不改了 每个diff都是的
16:55 qkenan: 哦,那没事
16:55 Zero__wind: 和伴奏比较搭的其实
16:55 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个最简单就是对称着拉直
16:55 Zero__wind: 哦
16:56 qkenan: 至于别的复杂些可能更好看的改法我暂时也想不到233
16:56 Zero__wind: 嗯……我也想不到
16:56 Zero__wind: 刚mod完一张滑条非常艺术的图……
16:56 Zero__wind: 感觉技术拙计
16:57 qkenan: 可以偷偷改成my map,经常拿出来学习
16:57 qkenan: 01:09:750 (3) - 不要露棱角
16:57 Zero__wind: 嗯 把第四个锚点拆成两个好像就没问题了
16:58 qkenan: 01:16:179 (4) - 棱角,另外考虑下尾巴与①的stack?反正都是那种边缘距离差不多的那种摆法
16:58 Zero__wind: 哦
16:58 Zero__wind: 试试
16:59 qkenan: 01:19:393 (2) - 和之前的①稍稍有点overlap,拉开不拉开,随意
16:59 qkenan: 01:21:179 (3) - 包的不是很完美
16:59 Zero__wind: 哦 大丈夫 我直接是旋转的
16:59 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:59 Zero__wind: 这个也是 把红点后面的锚点拆成 刚才我问过我师傅了 owo
17:00 qkenan: =w=
17:01 Zero__wind: 我去 我发现diif名字还能是中文
17:02 qkenan: 不会变成乱码么……
17:02 Zero__wind: 不太确定噢 感觉很文艺
17:03 qkenan: 音效基本没得挑,节奏也是
17:03 qkenan: 我去骗一发kd?
17:04 Zero__wind: 好
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

qkenan wrote:

IRC mod~

SPOILER
16:38 Zero__wind: 求看图
16:38 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:38 Zero__wind: remap完了
16:39 Zero__wind: 简单到炸
16:39 Zero__wind: Redl一下 加了hitsound
16:39 qkenan: dling
16:41 Zero__wind: ·改得我已经快不会再爱了
16:41 Zero__wind: 昨天夜里一直想梗想到趴在桌子上睡着了都没想出来 不能多说
16:42 qkenan: 好辛苦^
16:43 qkenan: so 良心
16:43 Zero__wind: 是啊……
16:44 Zero__wind: 随手HDSS了
16:44 qkenan: 粗打一遍下来,感觉基本可以了
16:45 qkenan: 有些滑条还是有点,嗯哼
16:45 qkenan: 没有overmap
16:46 Zero__wind: 有点0.0 ?
16:46 qkenan: 美观问题,小事
16:46 Zero__wind: 哦
16:46 Zero__wind: 至少感觉流畅多了是吧……
16:46 qkenan: 是的~
16:46 qkenan: 没有前作那种比较牵强的jump
16:47 Zero__wind: 这要再碰到连mod都不写直接枪毙掉的状况我真不会再爱了=。=
16:48 qkenan: =。=
16:48 qkenan: 可怜的孩子
16:49 qkenan: 00:32:607 (2,3,4,5,6) -
16:49 qkenan: 已经有点像是你招牌式的HD梗了、
16:50 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 不好看
16:51 qkenan: 00:45:822 (1) - 从这开始很长一段都是一个方向转,感觉在短的slider方向上做点变化会好些,嘛,个人感觉
16:51 qkenan: 00:47:250 (4) - 比如这个Ctrl+G
16:52 qkenan: 00:52:250 (2) - 形状……
16:52 qkenan: 00:54:036 (1) - 形状……
16:53 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:53 qkenan: 00:57:250 (5) - 画个勺子就算了,别把棱角露出来
16:53 Zero__wind: 旋转问题上我很赞成……我感觉我一个方向都快转晕了
16:53 qkenan: 连续的几个同方向,是顺手,太多就是……嗯哼
16:54 Zero__wind: 对的
16:54 qkenan: 00:58:679
16:54 qkenan: 这开始的几个Drum音效有点突兀……
16:54 Zero__wind: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个有啥建议没 我当时画得时候就比较……#$%^&*()
16:54 Zero__wind: 那几个drum音不改了 每个diff都是的
16:55 qkenan: 哦,那没事
16:55 Zero__wind: 和伴奏比较搭的其实
16:55 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个最简单就是对称着拉直
16:55 Zero__wind: 哦
16:56 qkenan: 至于别的复杂些可能更好看的改法我暂时也想不到233
16:56 Zero__wind: 嗯……我也想不到
16:56 Zero__wind: 刚mod完一张滑条非常艺术的图……
16:56 Zero__wind: 感觉技术拙计
16:57 qkenan: 可以偷偷改成my map,经常拿出来学习
16:57 qkenan: 01:09:750 (3) - 不要露棱角
16:57 Zero__wind: 嗯 把第四个锚点拆成两个好像就没问题了
16:58 qkenan: 01:16:179 (4) - 棱角,另外考虑下尾巴与①的stack?反正都是那种边缘距离差不多的那种摆法
16:58 Zero__wind: 哦
16:58 Zero__wind: 试试
16:59 qkenan: 01:19:393 (2) - 和之前的①稍稍有点overlap,拉开不拉开,随意
16:59 qkenan: 01:21:179 (3) - 包的不是很完美
16:59 Zero__wind: 哦 大丈夫 我直接是旋转的
16:59 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:59 Zero__wind: 这个也是 把红点后面的锚点拆成 刚才我问过我师傅了 owo
17:00 qkenan: =w=
17:01 Zero__wind: 我去 我发现diif名字还能是中文
17:02 qkenan: 不会变成乱码么……
17:02 Zero__wind: 不太确定噢 感觉很文艺
17:03 qkenan: 音效基本没得挑,节奏也是
17:03 qkenan: 我去骗一发kd?
17:04 Zero__wind: 好
Here's another irc mod from Athena Tennos
SPOILER
16:18 Zero__wind: 哟师傅 怒补mod啊
16:18 Athena Tennos: 0.0
16:18 Athena Tennos: 。。orz
16:18 Athena Tennos: 隨便看了下。。混KD去了。orz
16:18 Zero__wind: owow
16:19 Athena Tennos: 欠了一P谷的債。orz
16:19 Zero__wind: 估计是
16:19 Zero__wind: 我一个mod从中午写着写着睡着了……写到现在
16:19 Athena Tennos: ....
16:37 Zero__wind: 师傅求看我图 Q^Q
16:37 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:37 Zero__wind: Redl一下
16:41 Athena Tennos: 00:32:964 (3) -
16:41 Athena Tennos: 往←移一格
16:42 Athena Tennos: 00:51:536 (1) -
16:42 Athena Tennos: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646137
16:42 Zero__wind: 确定左移?我怎么觉得……已经盖在上面了
16:43 Athena Tennos: 。。。
16:43 Zero__wind: 00:51:536 (1) - 起点挪到(216,192)了是么
16:44 Athena Tennos: ?
16:44 Zero__wind: 你刚才那个截图
16:44 Athena Tennos: 看圖~
16:44 Athena Tennos: 嗯
16:44 Athena Tennos: 大概一樣就好了
16:44 Athena Tennos: 意思就是好看點。
16:44 Athena Tennos: 沒必要糾結準確座標。
16:44 Athena Tennos: 00:57:250 (5) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646141
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:02:964 (1) - ^
16:45 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/2ezDA 包成这样了大丈夫?
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:09:750 (3) - 嗯
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:09:750 (3) - 。。。
16:45 Athena Tennos: 第4個座標。。。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 分成2個來啦。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 拉。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 01:21:179 (3) - ……
16:46 Athena Tennos: I agree!
16:47 Zero__wind: 啥啥啥……信息量好大
16:47 Athena Tennos: /w\
16:47 Athena Tennos: 00:57:250 (5) - 參照這個
16:47 Athena Tennos: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646149
16:47 Athena Tennos: slider
16:48 Athena Tennos: 弧度大的並且要均勻。
16:48 Zero__wind: 嗯 这个slider 啧啧 我纠结死
16:48 Athena Tennos: 就用2個點拉開。
16:48 Zero__wind: 哦 现在弧度不均匀对吧
16:48 Athena Tennos: 嗯
16:49 Athena Tennos: 後面結果slider
16:49 Athena Tennos: 都是這問題。
16:49 Zero__wind: 01:21:179 (3) - 这个滑条是啥意思?
16:49 Athena Tennos: 一樣
16:49 Zero__wind: 哦
16:49 Athena Tennos: 後面都一樣
16:50 Athena Tennos: 對了。。。如果橙貓改完了post不了。能幫他post
16:50 Athena Tennos: 麼。
16:50 Athena Tennos: 我準備匿2星期。orz
16:50 Zero__wind: 00:56:893 (4,5) - 这两个的相对位置还好么
16:50 Zero__wind: 我比较没谱
16:51 Athena Tennos: 還行。

Thx for your mods~
mintong89
零风神, 竟然可以叫那么多modder
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

mintong89 wrote:

零风神, 竟然可以叫那么多modder
求不黑 改得我想屎
你也再给我看一下儿吧 就Angel一个diff
Flanster
I've checked your bpm and offset, its all good!

Also set genre to Video Game : Japanese
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

I've checked your bpm and offset, its all good!
Thx for confirming!
DX5536
Just some random Suggestion from me. Gosh, why don't this get ranked?
Easy:
I feel kinda empty (at 01:07:250 and) at 01:08:679. I would add a circle there.But it's up to you

Normal:
01:06:536 Super confused part for someone new in Normal and there are lot of mini streams. This is still Normal please have mercy and reduce the number of mini stream.

Hard:
00:42:607 This slider is kinda ugly, try something like this.This slider is from another map. You can make something similar.

How it's been make
00:54:036 (Please) make the both side of this slider same (or almost same because it's kinda ugly).

Angle:
-Nothing particular for now-

Sorry for my noob english. And Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

DX5536 wrote:

Just some random Suggestion from me. Gosh, why don't this get ranked?
I've requested a MAT and don't worry
Easy:
I feel kinda empty (at 01:07:250 and) at 01:08:679. I would add a circle there.But it's up to you you're right, there used to be notes. But considering that they're too intense, I removed them

Normal:
01:06:536 Super confused part for someone new in Normal and there are lot of mini streams. This is still Normal please have mercy and reduce the number of mini stream. reduced

Hard:
00:42:607 This slider is kinda ugly, try something like this.This slider is from another map. You can make something similar.

How it's been make
Thx for the idea but I think the current shape actually fits the vocal well so I'm not feel like changing it
00:54:036 (Please) make the both side of this slider same (or almost same because it's kinda ugly). seems not quite a deal

Angle:
-Nothing particular for now-

Sorry for my noob english. And Good Luck!
Thx for yur support!
spboxer3
omo
[Taiko Oni]

  1. 00:09:869 (2) - remove?

  2. 00:11:179 (1) - move to 00:11:357 - ?

  3. 00:21:655 (2) - remove?

  4. 00:22:131 (1) - spinner is add here is a kinda odd for player because I can't hear any beat/voice should be hold (stream)

  5. 00:28:321 (2) - remove. I guess you follow the voice (or guitar) for your main rely, that's why I make this suggest for you.

  6. 00:36:893 (1) - remove. sound it's excess.

  7. 00:39:155 (2,3) - remove both note, they are excessive note for this part

  8. 00:41:655 (2) - remove and add note at 00:41:655 (2) -

  9. 00:43:441 (1,1) - same remove :<

  10. 00:47:489 (1) - ,01:10:345 (2) - ^

※the issue is 5 plat stream is really unsuit for 1/3,1/6 rhythm song and you try to add it, but sound your pattern didn't make this diff outstanding just make it a kinda odd for playing. :(
mintong89
SPOILER
20:25 mintong89: (:3[____] hi
20:25 Kurosanyan: hi :o
20:25 mintong89: ヾ(:3ノシヾ)ノ" zero wind call me irc mod for you so he can call frost to bubble
20:25 *mintong89 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/215272 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni]]
20:26 mintong89: (´・ω・`) are you have time now?
20:26 Kurosanyan: yup
20:27 mintong89: since i lazy now...so...(ノ´∀`*)
20:27 mintong89: 00:06:179 (2) - delete?
20:27 mintong89: 00:09:036 (4) - ^
20:27 mintong89: oh wait...
20:28 mintong89: nonono
20:28 mintong89: 00:11:417 - add a k? because it have sound here
20:28 Kurosanyan: It have the exact same sound at 06:179 lol
20:29 Kurosanyan: I should delete both or none I think
20:29 mintong89: none plz lol
20:30 Kurosanyan: And it's more fiting with d imo
20:30 mintong89: up to you~
20:31 mintong89: 00:22:131 (1) - 顿弄不同为何要有useaspinner?
20:31 mintong89: ..
20:31 mintong89: dunno but why you use a spinner*
20:31 Kurosanyan: I'm not chinese
20:31 mintong89: i froget to change input sorry
20:31 Kurosanyan: haha
20:31 mintong89: ><"
20:31 mintong89: u can use k f
20:32 mintong89: k d*
20:32 Kurosanyan: I'm following the melody here and it would be too much boring if I use k d imo
20:33 Kurosanyan: Would be the same as the previous rhythm
20:33 mintong89: but use a spinner more boring (.
20:34 Kurosanyan: why D:
20:34 mintong89: nah just kidding
20:35 mintong89: 00:34:274 - add a d here?
20:36 Kurosanyan: But I would have to remove the finish :(
20:37 mintong89: .
20:37 mintong89: sorry orz
20:37 Kurosanyan: And it's better imo to start with the finish since there's a change in the music
20:37 mintong89: yeah
20:38 mintong89: 00:44:512 (1) - why you add k at this way? it's not fit
20:40 Kurosanyan: Yeah you're right for this one. I think I did it because there's already a kddkd before but it's better with a d
20:41 mintong89: hmm yeah
20:41 mintong89: 00:49:750 (2) - k? because it's just like 00:49:274 (5,1) -
20:43 mintong89: 00:51:893 (1,1) - k? it's fit at imo. but d is fit too. so up to you~
20:43 mintong89: 00:51:893 (1) - and 00:52:608 (1) - *
20:44 Kurosanyan: 00:49:750 (2) - I'm following the drums, not the melody
20:45 mintong89: ok
20:45 Kurosanyan: And d is making a better flow for the two notes where you suggested k imo
20:47 mintong89: 00:53:084 (2) - k?
20:56 Kurosanyan: wait, for 00:44:512 (2) - you said d and now you say k?
20:56 Kurosanyan: It's the same thing :(
20:56 mintong89: really? sorry then :(
20:58 mintong89: i guess i just can found this..
20:58 mintong89: = =
20:58 Kurosanyan: meh

草沒啥改變啦 no kds plz and good luck
Kurosanyan

spboxer3 wrote:

omo
[Taiko Oni]

  1. 00:09:869 (2) - remove? Nope

  2. 00:11:179 (1) - move to 00:11:357 - ? ^

  3. 00:21:655 (2) - remove? ^

  4. 00:22:131 (1) - spinner is add here is a kinda odd for player because I can't hear any beat/voice should be hold (stream) Well, since almost everyone is complaining about my spinner, I removed it and made dd k instead. I don't like it but I hope it's ok now.

  5. 00:28:321 (2) - remove. I guess you follow the voice (or guitar) for your main rely, that's why I make this suggest for you. I follow the drums for almost the whole map, why would I follow the vocals...?

  6. 00:36:893 (1) - remove. sound it's excess. ??? I guess you wrote the wrong note here because I don't understand why I should remove this one.

  7. 00:39:155 (2,3) - remove both note, they are excessive note for this part I think my mapping fit to the drums here

  8. 00:41:655 (2) - remove and add note at 00:41:655 (2) - There's already a note at 00:41:655 (2) - and no for the other suggestion.

  9. 00:43:441 (1,1) - same remove :< Nope

  10. 00:47:489 (1) - ,01:10:345 (2) - ^ ^

※the issue is 5 plat stream is really unsuit for 1/3,1/6 rhythm song and you try to add it, but sound your pattern didn't make this diff outstanding just make it a kinda odd for playing. :( I don't try anything, I just map the stuff I hear.
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
updated the taiko oni
Hope all the diffs are fine now
Frostmourne
hi

General
Offset seems late, offset should be 2960 (-5) make sure you don't forget to resnap all notes and green lines as well

Easy
00:33:673 (3) - this slider ends weirdly, it has no sound on the music on the end of the slider so I suggest you remove this note 00:34:387 (1) - and end this slider at this point instead
00:56:531 (2) - whistle head so the sound in the music will correspond with 00:57:244 (3) - and 00:55:816 (1) - as well

Normal
00:40:107 (1) - whistle head sounds weird, I will remove it only head here , the tail still sounds nice here
00:41:536 (3) - I would add whistle at 1st and 2nd points because they will correspond with 00:40:107 (1) - 's tail
01:21:714 (1,2,3,4) - it's really confusing for this part. Actually it shouldn't be confusing but what you have done so far in this diff are about 01:17:964 (4,5,1,2) - which is really complicated and hard to read but whatever , it sounds nice in the other side too.
So, to prevent the conflicted rhythmical logic here , I suggest you use this rhythm as you have done before so it will still be understandable as it should be

I will check the Hard and Insane later because some of them which I'm not sure are 1/6 beats
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Frostmourne wrote:

hi

General
Offset seems late, offset should be 2960 (-5) make sure you don't forget to resnap all notes and green lines as well all diff fixed

Easy
00:33:673 (3) - this slider ends weirdly, it has no sound on the music on the end of the slider so I suggest you remove this note 00:34:387 (1) - and end this slider at this point instead fixed
00:56:531 (2) - whistle head so the sound in the music will correspond with 00:57:244 (3) - and 00:55:816 (1) - as well fixed

Normal
00:40:107 (1) - whistle head sounds weird, I will remove it only head here , the tail still sounds nice here fixed
00:41:536 (3) - I would add whistle at 1st and 2nd points because they will correspond with 00:40:107 (1) - 's tail only added on head
01:21:714 (1,2,3,4) - it's really confusing for this part. Actually it shouldn't be confusing but what you have done so far in this diff are about 01:17:964 (4,5,1,2) - which is really complicated and hard to read but whatever , it sounds nice in the other side too.
So, to prevent the conflicted rhythmical logic here , I suggest you use this rhythm as you have done before so it will still be understandable as it should be
fixed

I will check the Hard and Insane later because some of them which I'm not sure are 1/6 beats
After hours and hours of testing and fixing, I've made Hard diff and Angel diff Almost consistent in rhythm. And about some particular points which I was also not sure, we really need a discussion in-game!

All diffs updated!
Frostmourne
did some IRC discussion for an hour

Good luck for the first map!
mintong89
恭喜bubble
留名
DX5536
Congraz.
Next step: Ranked!
^you can see this as a joke if you want.
Good luck!again
wantuole

mintong89 wrote:

恭喜bubble
留名
Stefan
Awaiting the rank of this Map. :D
Scorpiour
Hi there~~ pop for wrong artistunicode

[General]
  1. ArtistUnicode : 池田春菜
  2. Add Leaf to your tags
  3. Inconsistent Combo colours... could u give me a reason?
may mod it thoroughly later
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Scorpiour wrote:

Hi there~~ pop for wrong artistunicode

[General]
  1. ArtistUnicode : 池田春菜
  2. Add Leaf to your tags
  3. Inconsistent Combo colours... could u give me a reason?
may mod it thoroughly later
General fixed
Different combbo colors for different BGs
I think they were chosen delicately and won't make any trouble for players
Flask
This is a small issue, but if you can take a look on taiko muzu/oni, the bg will be like this while playing:


Do you get it? The girl's face in the bg has overlapped by the playfield. Set this in the notepad may solve this problem:

Muzu:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,100 (current 1,1)

Oni:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,150 (current 1,1)

You can change the number if you want, but please do not let the playfield overlaps the face!

@Zero__Wind: 看到記事本裡[events]的第二行0,0,"bg",1,1全改成0,0,"bg",0,0. 1,1會造成遊戲時BG偏移1pixel

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Flask wrote:

This is a small issue, but if you can take a look on taiko muzu/oni, the bg will be like this while playing:


Do you get it? The girl's face in the bg has overlapped by the playfield. Set this in the notepad may solve this problem:

Muzu:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,100 (current 1,1)

Oni:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,150 (current 1,1)

You can change the number if you want, but please do not let the playfield overlaps the face!

@Zero__Wind: 看到記事本裡[events]的第二行0,0,"bg",1,1全改成0,0,"bg",0,0. 1,1會造成遊戲時BG偏移1pixel

Good luck!
fixed~ thx a lot
Scorpiour
okay~~here's my mod, sorry for my late due to my courseworks >_<
No Kds, please~~,然后中文mod了,方便理解

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions


[Angel]
  1. 首先,我不反对用1/6,而且这个曲子用1/6也还算合适……只不过曲子本身的鼓点和吉他和vocal重音是1/4的所以多少觉得有点off
  2. 00:07:483 (5,6) - 这里,前面同样的1/6的二连你用了stack,这里一下子距离拉开很远。考虑到Kick Slider头部的点击特性,我更期待(4)->(5)之间能有个大间距的跳,而不是在(5)->(6)之间。虽然这么放并不会太坑,但总觉的不舒服。二连的话,我认为是00:09:269 (4,5) - 的间距放的比较适合。
  3. 00:08:317 (1) - 这个NC在我看来这个地方和前面是一句上的,所以NC应该放到后面的Note上而不是这里
  4. 00:12:424 - vocal重音在这里(注意是个1/4),所以如果不想放打击点的话,我认为至少把slider的红色拐点对齐这里来突出一下也好,现在的拐点位置歪到前面去了。
  5. 00:15:340 - 建议加note,vocal重音
  6. 00:17:960 (2) - 考虑到vocal结构,拆成slider+note的样子?比如这种:
  7. 00:21:055 - 加note建议
  8. 00:21:888 (3,4) - slider尾带来的错位感,听着不舒服,建议节奏:
  9. 00:27:721 - 依然是空拍空的很不舒服的点
  10. 00:28:555 (1,2) - 这跳的间距你是认真的?
  11. 00:29:388 (2,3,4) - 前面一直1/6为什么这一段突然就变回1/4了?
  12. 00:33:912 (6) - Slider轨道被遮挡的比较严重。其实这里我觉得2个note就刚好,是个放空拍的好地方。
  13. 00:41:769 (4) - 依然是2连间距问题叠到后面(5)那里去不好么?从开头到这里你几个2连间距就一直在变……很乱诶……如果你下定决心就用这个坚决的话也最好前后统一。
  14. 00:54:031 (1) - 做成对称吧
  15. 00:56:531 (3) - 突然一个红点的折线slider感觉比较违和。这不还没进kiai呢弄成弧线吧
[Taiko Oni]
  1. SliderTickRate 3 for 1/6 based
  2. 00:08:317 (1) - k?
  3. 00:14:031 (1) - k?
  4. 01:14:745 (5,1) - k d?
[Taiko Muzukashii]
  1. SliderTickRate 1 for 1/4 based
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:840 (6,7) - 感觉slider更合适
  2. 00:26:531 (2,3,4,5) - 和Insane一样,为什么从这里开始突然就变成1/4based了
  3. 00:56:531 (1,2,3,4,5) - 难看+难打
  4. 00:59:626 (4,5) - 又变回1/6了,另外建议slider
  5. 01:07:067 (1,2) - 不要这样1/4 1/6来会切换好不好很难受的……而且这还是Hard。。。
  6. 01:11:055 (3,4) - Slider
Hard整体难度和Insane太接近,而且我觉得你在做的时候完全没有想清楚到底是要按1/4来走还是1/6

[Normal]
  1. 00:17:245 (1) - 形状弯的有些过了
  2. 00:24:209 (2) - 建议删掉
  3. 00:26:888 (2,3) - 毕竟是Normal,稍微考虑下难度的问题吧,相当于168bpm的1/2连打新人会困扰的,放一个slider就会好很多了
  4. 00:28:317 - 这里倒是可以放个note来平衡你的节奏
  5. 00:45:817 (3) - stack没叠好
  6. 00:54:031 (4) - 向上挪动到74:185,对齐spacing和blanket
  7. 00:57:067 (3,4) - 1. 难度问题 2. 遮挡问题 。所以建议改掉做成这样
  8. 01:18:317 (5,1) - 依然是难度问题
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:245 (1) - 中间描点往左上放放,扭曲的太多了
  2. 00:21:531 (2) - 尾巴向下放平一点
  3. 00:28:317 - 这里可以加个note,空拍不是很好听
  4. 00:29:388 (1,3) - 弧度做小点并且拉对称了
  5. 00:35:817 (2) - 都出屏幕了,竖过来放不好么……没必要把自己给憋到死角去吧
  6. 00:39:745 (3) - 去掉尾巴上的whistle音
  7. 00:41:531 (1) - 依然是自己把自己堵死的节奏……和后面(2)做成对称的样式吧
  8. 01:07:245 - 建议加note,这里节奏是对称的
  9. 01:08:674 - ^
  10. 01:11:174 (3) - 已经都贴边了还要往外拐,直着上去稍微斜一点不就好了
  11. 01:17:245 (2) - NC挪到这里来
大概就是这样了。我的意见是在rebubble之前再去找几个靠谱的mod好好修改一下吧,现在这质量泡的实在是太勉强。

另外,taiko也需要更多的mod,现在的质量很难过关。Taiko staff的意见是直接remap,自己考虑下吧。
Lan wings
Timing錯誤導致用的1/6
offset:5841 or 2983
估計你原來是因為timing不對導致1/4對不上,然後發現1/6能稍微對上點才用的1/6吧?
重新用1/4remap下吧少年
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
Got no mood and no time for this these days
got a lot courses, comptetions, school comunity stuff and blah blah blah
and got into some trouble with my girlfriend blah blah blah
Hope I'll strike this post in a few days' time
LKs
作图还要晒妹是不是该烧

[Timing]

Above all timing is slightly off, use 108/5823(+6) instead

Don't listen to these two notes:
00:00:108 (1) - there is only guitar sound
00:02:965 (5) - this is where the the sweep picking begins, the sweep pick sounds in hundreds of ms so it's not good reference



a relatively big timing shift here, add 2 red lines plz

[Rhythm&Placement]

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/701193 First try, just missed the sowdown slider and got 3 100s. However I didn't feel like I was clicking notes accurately, the reason I got such high ACC is due to low OD and the big amount of sliders(which are more easy on getting 300s)

The following are reasons of the problem:

1. The random/unperfect usage of 1/4 and 1/6

First of all, let's make an important thing clear: 1/4 or 1/6, which one is more suitable for this map? both of them are okay to follow but the better answer is 1/6.
Technically speaking, many drums and part of the vocal were arranged in 1/6, and we can easily judge which one is better by comparison:

00:10:102 (1,2,3,4) - snap all these 4 notes by 1/4 snap divisor, it sounds weird and just like a broken tape recorder playing ancient songs(lag lag blahblah)

Okay, therefore, your map's problem is the existence of 1/4 rhythms, why did you use them? for not making a boring map or so? Imo 1/6 is fun enough. Actually since you have to map without distance snap quite often in Hard, i.e. you need to put jumps. It's hard to steer clear of confusion when playing. The song itself doesn't have strongly obvious 1/4-1/6 change so it's not necessary to switch them in your map, even though you designed them carefully.

00:44:269 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - 之前那种双slider违和感还不强 这种节奏就明显猎奇了

So make your choice here, use only 1/4 or 1/6, don't mingle them in one map. (ofc, 1/6 is my suggestion

2. Spacing and jumps

Some jumps are not recommended for they are unexpected

Examples:

00:06:531 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/2yAwc distance between 3&4, 5&6 are almost the same(blank line), but the players need to move 1 times faster to click 5&6, which doesn't play smoothly, although the sudden jump is not huge, the song is quiet here isn't it?
00:10:817 (3) - This slider leans too much to the right http://puu.sh/2yADV you can see in the pic the track suddenly becomes harsh with acute angle, especially when this is a 1/6 jump, it'd be better this way http://puu.sh/2yAB0
00:22:483 (4) - again, spacing looks the same but time spans differ. NC, or change this pattern, like reduce spacing betweenhttp://puu.sh/2yAK8
00:28:555 (1,2) - you can use jumps like this, but most of these jumps should be based on patterns, that's to say only when the previous notes have already formed a good structure can we use them for enhancing the playing experience. here is not a good place to set it


---------
00:09:269 (4,5,6) - nazi like this alignment should be checked by yourself, not going to point them out.
00:13:198 (4,5) - 00:09:269 (4,5) - same here, don't use different spacing between notes like this, pay attention to better consistency
00:13:674 (6) - maybe it's only me, this looks ugly
00:54:745 (2,3) - blanket的间距要一致
01:02:959 (1) - 这种blanket要用两个node解决 不然效果就不好
01:16:174 (4) - http://puu.sh/2yATm 波浪slider的基础就是对称node 一样的不提了
01:22:960 (1) - 一般我们惯性习惯把最后一个放在延长线上 然而如果stack在01:21:888 (1) - 头呢 你可以考虑一下

3. Hitsound

Above all, the usage of custom soft-hitwhistle is good.

Well, another severe problem in your map is hitsound, the song is soft, which means it could be followed well by soft samplest and a little bit normal samplest adorned at downbeat

but the fact is you used them too frequently

actually notes before 00:09:745 (6) - should have a single normal sound, in regardless of this

00:06:531 (3,4) - no normal on the ends
00:07:602 (6) - no normal on the beginning
00:08:674 (3) - ^
00:08:555 (2) - no normal. ok now listen to the intro again. there is contrast between strong and soft parts in the music. I'm not going to fix all for you, you'd check and fix the whole map accordingly

00:35:459 (2,3,4) - remove normal on the beginnings
00:32:586 (2,3,4,5) - think about this yourself, some of normal samplests need to be changed to soft ones
00:37:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:06:537 (2,3,1,2,3) - don't use normal sound on the ends. it's too strange to give the ends such strong sounds
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
翅膀大爷我给您跪了
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Scorpiour wrote:

okay~~here's my mod, sorry for my late due to my courseworks >_<
No Kds, please~~,然后中文mod了,方便理解

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions


[Angel]
  1. 首先,我不反对用1/6,而且这个曲子用1/6也还算合适……只不过曲子本身的鼓点和吉他和vocal重音是1/4的所以多少觉得有点off
  2. 00:07:483 (5,6) - 这里,前面同样的1/6的二连你用了stack,这里一下子距离拉开很远。考虑到Kick Slider头部的点击特性,我更期待(4)->(5)之间能有个大间距的跳,而不是在(5)->(6)之间。虽然这么放并不会太坑,但总觉的不舒服。二连的话,我认为是00:09:269 (4,5) - 的间距放的比较适合。 k
  3. 00:08:317 (1) - 这个NC在我看来这个地方和前面是一句上的,所以NC应该放到后面的Note上而不是这里 k
  4. 00:12:424 - vocal重音在这里(注意是个1/4),所以如果不想放打击点的话,我认为至少把slider的红色拐点对齐这里来突出一下也好,现在的拐点位置歪到前面去了。 k
  5. 00:15:340 - 建议加note,vocal重音 k
  6. 00:17:960 (2) - 考虑到vocal结构,拆成slider+note的样子?比如这种:
    k
  7. 00:21:055 - 加note建议 k
  8. 00:21:888 (3,4) - slider尾带来的错位感,听着不舒服,建议节奏:
    k
  9. 00:27:721 - 依然是空拍空的很不舒服的点 改了节奏
  10. 00:28:555 (1,2) - 这跳的间距你是认真的? 改了结构
  11. 00:29:388 (2,3,4) - 前面一直1/6为什么这一段突然就变回1/4了? 哎呀反正以前跟vocal的地方就用了1/4 跟鼓的就用了1/6 现在全都1/6了
  12. 00:33:912 (6) - Slider轨道被遮挡的比较严重。其实这里我觉得2个note就刚好,是个放空拍的好地方。 no
  13. 00:41:769 (4) - 依然是2连间距问题叠到后面(5)那里去不好么?从开头到这里你几个2连间距就一直在变……很乱诶……如果你下定决心就用这个坚决的话也最好前后统一。 就用大间距了
  14. 00:54:031 (1) - 做成对称吧 k
  15. 00:56:531 (3) - 突然一个红点的折线slider感觉比较违和。这不还没进kiai呢弄成弧线吧 k
[Taiko Oni]
  1. SliderTickRate 3 for 1/6 based fixed
  2. 00:08:317 (1) - k?
  3. 00:14:031 (1) - k?
  4. 01:14:745 (5,1) - k d?
[Taiko Muzukashii]
  1. SliderTickRate 1 for 1/4 based fixed
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:840 (6,7) - 感觉slider更合适 k
  2. 00:26:531 (2,3,4,5) - 和Insane一样,为什么从这里开始突然就变成1/4based了 ^
  3. 00:56:531 (1,2,3,4,5) - 难看+难打 改了节奏
  4. 00:59:626 (4,5) - 又变回1/6了,另外建议slider k
  5. 01:07:067 (1,2) - 不要这样1/4 1/6来会切换好不好很难受的……而且这还是Hard。。。 节奏都改了
  6. 01:11:055 (3,4) - Slider k
Hard整体难度和Insane太接近,而且我觉得你在做的时候完全没有想清楚到底是要按1/4来走还是1/6 全都1/6了 感觉这不可能难啊

[Normal]
  1. 00:17:245 (1) - 形状弯的有些过了 k
  2. 00:24:209 (2) - 建议删掉 k
  3. 00:26:888 (2,3) - 毕竟是Normal,稍微考虑下难度的问题吧,相当于168bpm的1/2连打新人会困扰的,放一个slider就会好很多了 k
  4. 00:28:317 - 这里倒是可以放个note来平衡你的节奏 不太想 而且感觉不好放
  5. 00:45:817 (3) - stack没叠好 fixed
  6. 00:54:031 (4) - 向上挪动到74:185,对齐spacing和blanket k
  7. 00:57:067 (3,4) - 1. 难度问题 2. 遮挡问题 。所以建议改掉做成这样
    k
  8. 01:18:317 (5,1) - 依然是难度问题 删了个note
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:245 (1) - 中间描点往左上放放,扭曲的太多了 k
  2. 00:21:531 (2) - 尾巴向下放平一点
    k
  3. 00:28:317 - 这里可以加个note,空拍不是很好听 不 保持和前面的节奏型一致
  4. 00:29:388 (1,3) - 弧度做小点并且拉对称了 k
  5. 00:35:817 (2) - 都出屏幕了,竖过来放不好么……没必要把自己给憋到死角去吧
    k
  6. 00:39:745 (3) - 去掉尾巴上的whistle音 no
  7. 00:41:531 (1) - 依然是自己把自己堵死的节奏……和后面(2)做成对称的样式吧
    no
  8. 01:07:245 - 建议加note,这里节奏是对称的 一开始加了的 就是被说太难了又删了 行吧 我又加回来了 还不够我纠结的
  9. 01:08:674 - ^ ^
  10. 01:11:174 (3) - 已经都贴边了还要往外拐,直着上去稍微斜一点不就好了 k
  11. 01:17:245 (2) - NC挪到这里来 k
大概就是这样了。我的意见是在rebubble之前再去找几个靠谱的mod好好修改一下吧,现在这质量泡的实在是太勉强。

另外,taiko也需要更多的mod,现在的质量很难过关。Taiko staff的意见是直接remap,自己考虑下吧。 太鼓我自己真不知道该怎么说 找过五六个人看过了 也没改出什么东西来=。= 我真是#$%^&*()
Finished all the fixing except for Taikos
Topic Starter
Zero__wind

LKs wrote:

作图还要晒妹是不是该烧 求神拉克丝饶小的一命Q^Q

[Timing]

Above all timing is slightly off, use 108/5823(+6) instead k

Don't listen to these two notes:
00:00:108 (1) - there is only guitar sound
00:02:965 (5) - this is where the the sweep picking begins, the sweep pick sounds in hundreds of ms so it's not good reference



a relatively big timing shift here, add 2 red lines plz I really know NOTHING about this! Thanks for the help...

[Rhythm&Placement]

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/701193 First try, just missed the sowdown slider and got 3 100s. However I didn't feel like I was clicking notes accurately, the reason I got such high ACC is due to low OD and the big amount of sliders(which are more easy on getting 300s) I think OD7 is OK 0.0

The following are reasons of the problem:

1. The random/unperfect usage of 1/4 and 1/6

First of all, let's make an important thing clear: 1/4 or 1/6, which one is more suitable for this map? both of them are okay to follow but the better answer is 1/6.
Technically speaking, many drums and part of the vocal were arranged in 1/6, and we can easily judge which one is better by comparison:

00:10:102 (1,2,3,4) - snap all these 4 notes by 1/4 snap divisor, it sounds weird and just like a broken tape recorder playing ancient songs(lag lag blahblah)

Okay, therefore, your map's problem is the existence of 1/4 rhythms, why did you use them? for not making a boring map or so? Imo 1/6 is fun enough. Actually since you have to map without distance snap quite often in Hard, i.e. you need to put jumps. It's hard to steer clear of confusion when playing. The song itself doesn't have strongly obvious 1/4-1/6 change so it's not necessary to switch them in your map, even though you designed them carefully.

00:44:269 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - 之前那种双slider违和感还不强 这种节奏就明显猎奇了

So make your choice here, use only 1/4 or 1/6, don't mingle them in one map. (ofc, 1/6 is my suggestion Made Hard diff and Angel diff with 1/6 all the way through

2. Spacing and jumps

Some jumps are not recommended for they are unexpected

Examples:

00:06:531 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/2yAwc distance between 3&4, 5&6 are almost the same(blank line), but the players need to move 1 times faster to click 5&6, which doesn't play smoothly, although the sudden jump is not huge, the song is quiet here isn't it? got it, fixed
00:10:817 (3) - This slider leans too much to the right http://puu.sh/2yADV you can see in the pic the track suddenly becomes harsh with acute angle, especially when this is a 1/6 jump, it'd be better this way http://puu.sh/2yAB0 no, I got it really smooth
00:22:483 (4) - again, spacing looks the same but time spans differ. NC, or change this pattern, like reduce spacing betweenhttp://puu.sh/2yAK8 k
00:28:555 (1,2) - you can use jumps like this, but most of these jumps should be based on patterns, that's to say only when the previous notes have already formed a good structure can we use them for enhancing the playing experience. here is not a good place to set it changed the arrangement


---------
00:09:269 (4,5,6) - nazi like this alignment should be checked by yourself, not going to point them out. fixed, but I JUST DON'T want them to line up
00:13:198 (4,5) - 00:09:269 (4,5) - same here, don't use different spacing between notes like this, pay attention to better consistency fixed, a big deal
00:13:674 (6) - maybe it's only me, this looks ugly =.=
00:54:745 (2,3) - blanket的间距要一致 k
01:02:959 (1) - 这种blanket要用两个node解决 不然效果就不好 didn't got it
01:16:174 (4) - http://puu.sh/2yATm 波浪slider的基础就是对称node 一样的不提了 fixed all
01:22:960 (1) - 一般我们惯性习惯把最后一个放在延长线上 然而如果stack在01:21:888 (1) - 头呢 你可以考虑一下 nice idea

3. Hitsound

Above all, the usage of custom soft-hitwhistle is good.

Well, another severe problem in your map is hitsound, the song is soft, which means it could be followed well by soft samplest and a little bit normal samplest adorned at downbeat

but the fact is you used them too frequently

actually notes before 00:09:745 (6) - should have a single normal sound, in regardless of this

00:06:531 (3,4) - no normal on the ends
00:07:602 (6) - no normal on the beginning
00:08:674 (3) - ^
00:08:555 (2) - no normal. ok now listen to the intro again. there is contrast between strong and soft parts in the music. I'm not going to fix all for you, you'd check and fix the whole map accordingly About the first part, I changed, but changed into a really different sound pattern, comparing with your suggestion

00:35:459 (2,3,4) - remove normal on the beginnings
00:32:586 (2,3,4,5) - think about this yourself, some of normal samplests need to be changed to soft ones
00:37:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:06:537 (2,3,1,2,3) - don't use normal sound on the ends. it's too strange to give the ends such strong sounds I think I reduced many of normal sounds, but still not that much as you want. I think this is what I want now.
Really thx for the unexpected help!!!!!!!
Scorpiour
irc-rechecked with mapper, fixed unsnaped/timing point conflicts, and also change some hitsounds and a few NC issue

rebubbled~

SPOILER
22:54 *Scorpiour is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/197497 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Normal]]
22:54 Scorpiour: Normal
22:54 Scorpiour: 00:32:251 (2) - 这里有unsnapped
22:54 Zero__wind: 我不会处理这种多红线的东西 虽然拉克丝教我怎么设了
22:54 Zero__wind: 不过东西我不知道怎么放
22:55 Zero__wind: 现在的这个slider的长度其实是二分拍时长的没错 不过这样算作unsnapped么
22:56 Scorpiour: 算
22:56 Scorpiour: 找泡泡帮你弄了
22:56 Zero__wind: 那是啥意思0.0
22:56 Scorpiour: taiko KPY说可以给放过
22:56 Scorpiour: 去抓popner。。。
22:56 Zero__wind: 抓他来做什么?
22:56 Scorpiour: 他比较熟悉弄这种跨红线的slider
22:56 Zero__wind: 哦
22:57 Zero__wind: 不过其实…这个地方不就只有两种选择么 除了像我现在这个样子之外 就是让它在00:32:592 - 结束
22:58 Scorpiour: 但是你现在这样做的是不行的……所以其实就一种选择了。。。
22:58 Zero__wind: 哦 那我就改成那样呗=。=
22:58 Scorpiour: snap这种事情没办法啦
22:58 Scorpiour: 别的应该没有什么大问题
22:59 Zero__wind: 诶 我好好像还真不会改 尼玛
22:59 Scorpiour: Hard
23:00 Scorpiour: 00:45:822 (8) -
23:00 Zero__wind: 不太清楚怎么样能让它短那么一点点=。= 一会儿再弄弄看
23:00 Scorpiour: 把NC挪到这里
23:00 Zero__wind: 哦
23:00 Scorpiour: 那个snap你直接找popner
23:00 Scorpiour: 我和他说了
23:08 Scorpiour: 然后
23:09 Scorpiour: Normal
23:09 Scorpiour: 00:08:323 (5) - 从这里开始这一串的normal whistle是怎么回事…………
23:09 Zero__wind: 嘛 其实后面几个diff本来也有 然后remap改了节奏型才没了=.=
23:09 Scorpiour: 那Normal也不要了
23:10 Scorpiour: 听着有点别扭
23:10 Zero__wind: 成
23:10 Scorpiour: 00:39:750 (2) - 这里这段也是……
23:12 Scorpiour: 01:02:607 (3) - 这个whistle也可以拿掉
23:12 Scorpiour: 01:14:035 (2) - 还有这个
23:12 Zero__wind: 嗯我听下
23:13 Scorpiour: 和你的Angel对照一下音效
23:13 Zero__wind: 嗯 其实这些段落ENH的音效是统一的
23:14 Scorpiour: 嗯……尽量把diff间做成一致
23:14 Zero__wind: 但是I的节奏型完全不一样了没法跟它们统一
23:14 Zero__wind: 所以我觉得这个样子应该…还好吧
23:14 Scorpiour: 后面这几个影响倒是不大
23:14 Scorpiour: 最开始那段不好听
23:14 Zero__wind: 行
23:15 Scorpiour: 你自己Hard/Easy在开头也没有whistle,所以那里去掉,其他的随意了
23:16 Zero__wind: OK
23:16 Scorpiour: 就这样吧,把那个snap弄好然后更新
23:21 Scorpiour: 更新好了叫我
23:25 Zero__wind: 哦我自己还有个地方要问的
23:25 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
23:26 Zero__wind: 00:14:394 (1,2,3) - 和00:20:108 (1,2,3) -
23:26 Zero__wind: 这2个地方用1/4没问题吧
23:27 Scorpiour: 00:14:394 (1,2) - 我自己会倾向于snap到1/3,00:15:108 (3) - 1/4或者1/6没有区别
23:28 Zero__wind: 嗯 对于那个note来说是无关紧要的
23:28 Zero__wind: 只是滑条长度会有变化
23:28 Scorpiour: 滑条长度变化也不是麻烦
23:28 Zero__wind: 这个地方我最开始map的时候 用了default的whistle就是先跟伴奏里那5声旋律
23:28 Scorpiour: 我自己的话肯定会做横1/3长度的滑条,不过只是我个人选择而已
23:28 Scorpiour: 后面那里也是
23:28 Zero__wind: 我听起来那5个音是等间距的
23:29 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:29 Zero__wind: 那行吧 那我按自己的来了
23:29 Scorpiour: http://puu.sh/2OAzJ.jpg
23:29 Scorpiour: 恩
23:30 Zero__wind: upload了
23:31 Scorpiour: 恩稍等
23:31 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:42 Scorpiour: 你刚才是不是动红线了?
23:43 Zero__wind: 嗯 泡泡让我加的
23:44 Scorpiour: 加了就要所有diff都一起加
23:44 Scorpiour: 然后所有diff都要一起snap....
23:44 Zero__wind: 都加了
23:44 Scorpiour: resnap
23:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:44 Scorpiour: Easy呢
23:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:44 Zero__wind: 啊?没有么
23:44 Scorpiour: taiko呢
23:44 Scorpiour: 2个taiko也要加,而且taiko里没有snap
23:44 Zero__wind: 都加了
23:44 Zero__wind: 红线都加了 所有地方
23:45 Scorpiour: muzukashii没有加
23:45 Zero__wind: 所有diff *包括太鼓
23:45 Zero__wind: 呃?
23:45 Scorpiour: 我这里直接报错了
23:45 Scorpiour: 自己按Ctrl+shitf+A检查
23:45 Zero__wind: 我真的加了啊 那我再上传一遍
23:45 Zero__wind: 我这里真的加了=.=
23:45 Scorpiour: 上传之前自己再看一遍
23:45 Scorpiour: 按ctrl+shift+A确定没有conflict报错
23:46 Zero__wind: 稍等 好像是有些问题 不过不是那个问题
23:48 Zero__wind: 所有红线都统一了 也都查了AImod
23:49 Scorpiour: 然后snap
23:49 Zero__wind: AImod里面没有报不应该就意味着snap没问题么?
23:49 Scorpiour: double check...
23:49 Zero__wind: 要重新检查snap的地方应该只有多加红线的那个地方吧
23:50 Zero__wind: 我自己查一下
23:50 Scorpiour: 从加了红线的点向后全都要检查
23:50 Zero__wind: 哦
23:51 Zero__wind: 那个红线的目的其实就是为了调Normal里面那一个slider的长度 新加的红线后面马上就有另一条原来就有的拉克丝帮我设的红线 对它再后面的东西的snapping是不构成影响的
23:51 Zero__wind: 那个红线的目的其实就是为了调Normal里面那一个slider的长度 新加的红线后面马上就有另一条原来就有的拉克丝帮我设的红线 对它再后面的东西的snapping是不构成影响的
23:51 Scorpiour: 但是红线本身会相互影响…………
23:51 Scorpiour: 总之很麻烦的说……
23:51 Zero__wind: 0.0
23:54 Zero__wind: 好的你赢了=。= 在Hard里我真的查出了一个
23:57 Zero__wind: 都查过了 上传好了
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
hmm I've got nothing to say but thanks
Topic Starter
Zero__wind
irc mod by NatsumeRin
17:15 Zero__wind: 铃爷求rank图
17:15 *Zero__wind is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/197495 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so...]
17:15 NatsumeRin: .
17:22 NatsumeRin: 除了taiko没gd是吧
17:22 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:22 NatsumeRin: 那我irc过一遍,看到哪说到哪
17:22 Zero__wind: 好
17:23 NatsumeRin: 00:43:321 (3,4,1,2) - 略丑
17:23 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2PbVe.jpg 前面弄个等边三角之类
17:23 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:24 NatsumeRin: 01:00:821 (4) - 希望别
17:24 Zero__wind: ?
17:24 Zero__wind: 挪到左手边?
17:25 NatsumeRin: 恩虽然没什么事但是Easy还是别走这种重复路线比较好
17:25 NatsumeRin: 尤其是选择余地比较大的时候
17:25 Zero__wind: 成 那我顺带01:10:464 (1,2,3,4) - 一起改了
17:26 NatsumeRin: 00:32:770 (3,4,5) - 怪异
17:26 NatsumeRin: Normal
17:27 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:27 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2Pc1i.jpg
17:27 NatsumeRin: 正常逻辑是这样吧
17:27 Zero__wind: 我对比一下
17:27 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2Pc1i.jpg...
17:27 NatsumeRin: 错
17:27 NatsumeRin: 00:37:964 (1) -
17:27 NatsumeRin: 。。没太懂
17:28 Zero__wind: 就是想一个滑条带过后面那个旋律伴奏
17:30 NatsumeRin: Hard
17:30 NatsumeRin: 00:08:323 (6,7) -
17:30 NatsumeRin: 刚才那个就是好奇问下没别的事
17:30 NatsumeRin: 这个不建议
17:30 Zero__wind: 哦
17:30 NatsumeRin: 00:22:846 (6) - 单用后面那个音比较好
17:31 Zero__wind: 只用一个note 不用滑条?
17:31 NatsumeRin: 恩我是这个感觉
17:31 NatsumeRin: 另外我刚才就想问了。。。
17:32 NatsumeRin: 为什么Hard用1/3 Normal用1/2。。。
17:32 Zero__wind: 因为难道N可以用1/3么=。=
17:32 NatsumeRin: 有人说不行吗。。。
17:33 Zero__wind: 我也不太清楚……感觉E和N都是1/1 1/2
17:33 Zero__wind: 其实可不可以这么解释
17:33 Zero__wind: 我E和N是跟的vocal H和N是打的鼓点
17:33 Zero__wind: H和I
17:33 NatsumeRin: 勉强放了吧。。。
17:34 NatsumeRin: 00:07:489 (5,6) - 像23那样就好,单用看着也不舒服。。
17:34 NatsumeRin: 00:08:323 (7,1,2) - 能别就别
17:34 NatsumeRin: 叠时不要换节奏
17:35 Zero__wind: Hard?
17:35 Zero__wind: 因为太远?
17:35 NatsumeRin: Angel
17:35 Zero__wind: 哦 我就说怎么好像没看到
17:35 NatsumeRin: 00:10:823 (3) - 我觉得问题有点大了。。。
17:35 Zero__wind: 懂*
17:35 Zero__wind: 稍等
17:36 Zero__wind: 哦
17:36 NatsumeRin: 这明显已经不在音上了
17:36 Zero__wind: 嗯?
17:36 NatsumeRin: 00:10:823 (3) -
17:36 NatsumeRin: 结尾的鼓肯定是蓝线
17:37 Zero__wind: 嘛……嗯 应该是 不过那就又要混1/4和1/6?
17:37 NatsumeRin: 。。。什么叫又要混
17:38 NatsumeRin: 如果你是在跟,在这种地方下法肯定是唯一的啊
17:38 Zero__wind: 因为我开始就是分了有的地方用1/4有的地方用1/6 然后就被轮番炮轰……
17:40 NatsumeRin: 我看眼帖子
17:40 Zero__wind: Sco和拉克丝都说 因为曲子也很明显的1/4和1/6之间切换的地方 就不要混着用了 就算我是有静心设计的怎样怎样
17:41 Zero__wind: 虽然Frost一开始放我的时候他说觉得混着用没问题 还讨论了好多地方到底应该1/4还是1/6
17:41 NatsumeRin: 。。。
17:41 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:41 NatsumeRin: 我只能希望不被un
17:41 Zero__wind: 同……
17:41 NatsumeRin: 00:29:275 (1,2) - 手动右下走一点
17:42 NatsumeRin: 你找人rank目标就是不被un吗
17:42 Zero__wind: 我会说un一次我人参就完整了么……
17:42 NatsumeRin: 00:43:679 (3,4,1) - 间距看不懂
17:43 Zero__wind: 4离前后的间距差太大?
17:43 Zero__wind: 我想想
17:43 NatsumeRin: 前面2/3
17:43 NatsumeRin: 后面1/3
17:43 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:43 NatsumeRin: 间距相同
17:44 NatsumeRin: 00:55:464 (4) - 照之前的思路,肯定要往远了放
17:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:45 NatsumeRin: 01:17:965 (2,3) - whistle呢
17:45 NatsumeRin: 01:19:393 (2,3) - 同
17:46 Zero__wind: 到最后换了一下下音效的方法…还是做成和前半一样比较好咯?
17:46 Zero__wind: 当然也不是不可以
17:47 NatsumeRin: 有意的话就ok
17:47 Zero__wind: 哦 有意的
17:47 NatsumeRin: 没兴趣干涉这个
17:48 NatsumeRin: 弄好了传吧
17:48 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:56 NatsumeRin: 好了么
17:56 Zero__wind: 没
17:56 NatsumeRin: 那好了叫我
17:57 Zero__wind: 嗯
18:20 Zero__wind: 好了
18:20 NatsumeRin: 恩
18:20 NatsumeRin: 。刚才退了下没存log
18:20 Zero__wind: 我有
NatsumeRin
irc modded. Ranked.

Though i still hope a better quality map but for newbie... anyway.
Strawberry
Sonnyc
Finally ranked~ grats
ffstar
恭喜你啊 ^^ 继续加油!!!
raririn
xiale
lkx_Shore
你知道吗,我已经不敢再下载这图了
DX5536
Awesome. Graz
Niko-nyan

Strawberry wrote:

Topic Starter
Zero__wind

NatsumeRin wrote:

irc modded. Ranked.

Though i still hope a better quality map but for newbie... anyway.
Yeah I understand
anyway, I'd get better a one next time
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