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Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Osu|Taiko]

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Zero__wind
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Andrea wrote:

~General~

Tags between the difficulties are inconsistent and there is also an extra useless space.

Colours between the difficulties are inconsistent.

Offset is wrong, use 5.835 and resnap all notes, green lines, etc.

~Easy~

00:36:884 (4) - New combo.

~Normal~

Reduce AR by 1 tick.

01:00:099 (5) - New combo.
01:01:528 (1) - Remove new combo.

~Hard~

00:52:954 (3,4) - They look pretty bad to me.
01:07:955 (3) - Hidden slider repeat.

Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni

00:22:122 (1) - Do this instead of the spinner.

~Angel~

00:39:384 (8) - Random and unexpected slowdown. currently with no good idea, and actually I don't think the present one is bad
00:48:311 (7) - Ugly slider. make it ordinary
01:14:027 (1) - This slider is really hard to see, please don't overlap it. Cgabged tgoroughly from here
01:15:812 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I find this part pretty confusing, please remake it. Let's see the new arrangement

This map still need some more work.
Fixed almost all and update for the other diffs, still working on some points in my Angel diff.
Actually I may need a discussion with Andrea about this, though I don't know when.
btw, I also changed the offset and other things in the Taiko diffs, so Kurosanyan you don't have to worry.
The combo colors are still not be changed, for I just thoroughly read the ranking criteria again and find nothing against this both in the rules and in the guidelines. And I think it will be fine looking for most players.
mancuso_JM_
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Hi! Mod time! Sorry for the delay :/

[General:]

• Would be better if you can find other BGs for the Taiko difficulties, so all the difficulties have different BGs. In my opinion will look much better having different BGs in all diffs. instead of doing that.
• Preview Time: The Preview Point is Slighty different comparing all difficulties. In Easy diff. the Preview Point is in 59049 and in the other difficulties is 58692. So, you must make it consistent between all the difficulties.
• 00:05:835 (1) - This Note sounds really Slow comparing with the music. Try using 45% in the Red line, will sound properly then.
• 00:06:549 (T) - In this Green Line try adding 10% in the Volume because sounds also low in all the diffs.

[Easy:]

• Settings:
--> The HP Drain Rate is a bit low in this difficulty. Try increasing it by 1 Tick (HD+1)

• 00:21:549 (2) - In the Repetition, sounds better a finish instead of your Custom Whistle. So, it is better if you replace it here
• 00:51:192 (3,1) - This pattern sounds weird, it is not following properly anything in the music. To follow better the song (the Vocal especially) I suggest you to do something like this:
SPOILER
• 00:54:049 (1) - If you did the above suggestion, I feel this New Combo unnecesary. In my opinion it is better if you remove it from here
• 00:59:763 (3) - Replace this Slider in 2 Single Notes, the kiai it is the most important part in the song, so it is better if you starting it with a Click on a Note :P
• 01:07:263 (5) - I'd delete this Note, can be difficult to follow properly this pattern with these 1/4.. Maybe a rest deleating this note is the best option
• 01:22:977 (3) - I think that a Soft Whistle sounds better than a Normal Whistle in this Note. Would be better if you replace that.

• One more thing at the end: Add a Spinner (at least) to make a variety in the score, if you don't do that we will have a lot of similar scores if the map is in the Ranked Status.

- In general you did a good job with this difficulty, anyways I dislike the way that you used the spacing. In my opinion you should re-arrange all the patterns using 1.10x in the Distance Spacing, give it a try pls.

[Normal:]

• 00:27:263 (4) - The second Reverse Arrow in this Slider is almost covered by the hitburst of (3), you should do something to fix the mistake because it is unrankable stuff.
• 00:29:763 (2) - Move this Note to x:220 y:192 for a better flow
• 00:48:334 (4) - *A bit Nazi*- But this pattern can be clean up a bit more. Actually the previous Slider (2) gives a bad ''Hitburst Overlap'' to this Slider, to avoid that overlap you can try blanketing, like here:
SPOILER
• 00:56:549 (2) - I would remove the Whistle from the Sliderbody, actually sounds annoying to me.
• 00:57:084 (x) - Hmm.. A note here is pretty necessary imo.
• 01:06:370 - 01:06:906 - Why did not you map this section? You did it in Easy, and easy diff. is supposed to be easier than a Normal of course. You should map this blank section as you did in easy, will play much better
• 01:07:799 - 01:08:334 - (^)
• 01:17:799 - 01:18:334 - (^)
• 01:19:227 - 01:19:763 - (^)
• 01:22:977 (4) - Same as Easy, use Soft Finish instead of Normal.

- Not bad, but map this blanks spaces mentioned in my mod, it provides a bad flow imo.

[Hard:]

• 00:10:120 (4,5) - These Sliders with 2 Repetitions don't flow that good, try using a pattern like this will flow better..
SPOILER
• 00:41:549 (2,3) - This kind of patterns are not to my liking, because they don't provide a good visibility of the pattern.. If I were you I'd change it inmediatley but it is up to you because we are talking about a personal think.
• 00:49:406 (Spin) - This Spinner sounds really random at the end, would be better if you map it instead.
• 00:52:977 (3,4) - Same thing as 00:41:549
• 00:56:549 (1,2,3,4,5) - Reversed pattern have always a bad flow, and this is not an exception it flows pretty bad. I suggest you to do a pattern more like this:
SPOILER
• 01:01:906 (2,3) - This Spacing is really random, because it doesn't fits with the music it is a really slow section and you used a jump, it doesn't make sense. Reduce the Spacing between the Notes pls.
• 01:03:334 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Again, this is really random, it is the kiai section but the section of the song is really slow, reduce the spacing between these Objects too pls, it doesn't make sense.
• 01:21:727 (1) - This Slider is not covering properly the Vocal, since it is a Hard would be better if you follow the Rhythm closely, so decompress this Slider in 2. 1st Slider start in 01:21:727 and finish in 01:21:906 and the 2nd Slider starts in 01:22:084 and finish in 01:22:263.

- This difficulty went well till the Kiai Time, I don't understand why you add unnecesary Jumps in a really slow part of the song. In addition, they were placed randomly, a little tip, if you want to add break in slow songs try adding them in Combo changes especially because on other places they will look random and without sense.

[Angel:]

- Wow, I dislike this diff at all. Sorry :(, it has the same problems as the kiai in Hard diff. A lot of unnecesaries and big jumps in a really slow song, this is not the kind of Insane that fits with this song. Would be unnecesary to mod that, but please reduce the jumps as much as you can because play bad with this song. I imagined a low level Insane before to see the diff. but when I saw the diff. I felt dissapointed really :(.

Btw, Both Taiko Difficulties look technically fine for me..

Well, that's all.
Easier diffs. and Taiko diffs. are well designed and should be ready to go, but Hardest one need more work before to be consider for Ranking, it looks repetitive but a lot of unnecessary jumps for a slow song..
Best of luck with your map (and please don't give up)
Zero__wind
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mancusojuanmattos wrote:

Hi! Mod time! Sorry for the delay :/

[General:]

• Would be better if you can find other BGs for the Taiko difficulties, so all the difficulties have different BGs. In my opinion will look much better having different BGs in all diffs. instead of doing that.
• Preview Time: The Preview Point is Slighty different comparing all difficulties. In Easy diff. the Preview Point is in 59049 and in the other difficulties is 58692. So, you must make it consistent between all the difficulties.
• 00:05:835 (1) - This Note sounds really Slow comparing with the music. Try using 45% in the Red line, will sound properly then.
• 00:06:549 (T) - In this Green Line try adding 10% in the Volume because sounds also low in all the diffs.

[Easy:]

• Settings:
--> The HP Drain Rate is a bit low in this difficulty. Try increasing it by 1 Tick (HD+1)

• 00:21:549 (2) - In the Repetition, sounds better a finish instead of your Custom Whistle. So, it is better if you replace it here sorry but I'm not fond of a finish here. There is one later.
• 00:51:192 (3,1) - This pattern sounds weird, it is not following properly anything in the music. To follow better the song (the Vocal especially) I suggest you to do something like this:
• 00:54:049 (1) - If you did the above suggestion, I feel this New Combo unnecesary. In my opinion it is better if you remove it from here
• 00:59:763 (3) - Replace this Slider in 2 Single Notes, the kiai it is the most important part in the song, so it is better if you starting it with a Click on a Note :P Didn't change for I think it's not neccessary, I consider the vocal here is long, so I placed a slider, also, to keep consistent with the latter one
• 01:07:263 (5) - I'd delete this Note, can be difficult to follow properly this pattern with these 1/4.. Maybe a rest deleating this note is the best option delete even more
• 01:22:977 (3) - I think that a Soft Whistle sounds better than a Normal Whistle in this Note. Would be better if you replace that. I know you mean a soft finish, changed

• One more thing at the end: Add a Spinner (at least) to make a variety in the score, if you don't do that we will have a lot of similar scores if the map is in the Ranked Status. that's what Lally has already spoken and what I was considering. Changed each diffs' offset and add a spinner in Easy

- In general you did a good job with this difficulty, anyways I dislike the way that you used the spacing. In my opinion you should re-arrange all the patterns using 1.10x in the Distance Spacing, give it a try pls. Did it. Better now.

[Normal:]

• 00:27:263 (4) - The second Reverse Arrow in this Slider is almost covered by the hitburst of (3), you should do something to fix the mistake because it is unrankable stuff.
• 00:29:763 (2) - Move this Note to x:220 y:192 for a better flow
• 00:48:334 (4) - *A bit Nazi*- But this pattern can be clean up a bit more. Actually the previous Slider (2) gives a bad ''Hitburst Overlap'' to this Slider, to avoid that overlap you can try blanketing, like here: didn't fix in your way, but I did fixed a little and I think it's fine now
• 00:56:549 (2) - I would remove the Whistle from the Sliderbody, actually sounds annoying to me. It's a mistake. Removed the whistle on the body and remain the ones on the head and the end
• 00:57:084 (x) - Hmm.. A note here is pretty necessary imo.
• 01:06:370 - 01:06:906 - Why did not you map this section? You did it in Easy, and easy diff. is supposed to be easier than a Normal of course. You should map this blank section as you did in easy, will play much better
• 01:07:799 - 01:08:334 - (^)
• 01:17:799 - 01:18:334 - (^)
• 01:19:227 - 01:19:763 - (^) Actuall I'm afraid to make them too difficult(the notes start on blue tick), so I left them blank to give newbie players time to react. But, I filled the blank as you and some earlier modders suggested
• 01:22:977 (4) - Same as Easy, use Soft Finish instead of Normal.

- Not bad, but map this blanks spaces mentioned in my mod, it provides a bad flow imo.

[Hard:]

• 00:10:120 (4,5) - These Sliders with 2 Repetitions don't flow that good, try using a pattern like this will flow better.. I think they're fine and didn't change anything. You know that when players clicked a kick-slider, they won't move their cursor to follow, but stay and head for the next item.
• 00:41:549 (2,3) - This kind of patterns are not to my liking, because they don't provide a good visibility of the pattern.. If I were you I'd change it inmediatley but it is up to you because we are talking about a personal think. sorry for that, but not changing.
• 00:49:406 (Spin) - This Spinner sounds really random at the end, would be better if you map it instead. made it end earlier and add a few stuffs and I think they're fine now
• 00:52:977 (3,4) - Same thing as 00:41:549 =.=
• 00:56:549 (1,2,3,4,5) - Reversed pattern have always a bad flow, and this is not an exception it flows pretty bad. I suggest you to do a pattern more like this:
• 01:01:906 (2,3) - This Spacing is really random, because it doesn't fits with the music it is a really slow section and you used a jump, it doesn't make sense. Reduce the Spacing between the Notes pls big changes.
• 01:03:334 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Again, this is really random, it is the kiai section but the section of the song is really slow, reduce the spacing between these Objects too pls, it doesn't make sense. as above
• 01:21:727 (1) - This Slider is not covering properly the Vocal, since it is a Hard would be better if you follow the Rhythm closely, so decompress this Slider in 2. 1st Slider start in 01:21:727 and finish in 01:21:906 and the 2nd Slider starts in 01:22:084 and finish in 01:22:263. fixed in another way

- This difficulty went well till the Kiai Time, I don't understand why you add unnecesary Jumps in a really slow part of the song. In addition, they were placed randomly, a little tip, if you want to add break in slow songs try adding them in Combo changes especially because on other places they will look random and without sense.

[Angel:]

- Wow, I dislike this diff at all. Sorry :(, it has the same problems as the kiai in Hard diff. A lot of unnecesaries and big jumps in a really slow song, this is not the kind of Insane that fits with this song. Would be unnecesary to mod that, but please reduce the jumps as much as you can because play bad with this song. I imagined a low level Insane before to see the diff. but when I saw the diff. I felt dissapointed really :(. I'm sorry for that but I'm not gonna fix much. I did some changes during Kiai, for I think it's the only part which is too hard.

Btw, Both Taiko Difficulties look technically fine for me.. Glad to hear that

Well, that's all.
Easier diffs. and Taiko diffs. are well designed and should be ready to go, but Hardest one need more work before to be consider for Ranking, it looks repetitive but a lot of unnecessary jumps for a slow song..
Best of luck with your map (and please don't give up)
Thx for your mod. All what I didn't mention in my post is what I fixed.
And for everyone who has checked my map. Believe it or not, I didn't ever aim to make the [Angel] hard to play. I just want it to be different from piles of slow Insanes that already existed. Some big jumps which cames from some mods are not my initial setting. I tried it and gathered ideas for I think it might be fun. Now the jumps in the last part of the Kiai is gone, replaced by my original ones. And for the overlaps, this is what I wanna try in this mapset, so don't blame it if it's not your type of dish. Every new creation faces trouble when it's first seen. And believing in this, I'll try my best to remain this as a Hard-to-Be-Ranked map while getting it ranked. I believe there woild be, and will be players who like this stuff. I Hope so...
Athena Tennos
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Athena Tennos
神馬情況。。。感覺好厲害的樣子/w\
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

Athena Tennos wrote:

神馬情況。。。感覺好厲害的樣子/w\
总觉得你想多了=。=
ps:我好像最近开始喜欢写论文了=。=是不是没救了
10nya
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10nya

~ M4M from My Queue ~


Hi Zero__wind :D

General


  1. Add to tags: eroge ?

Easy

  1. 00:27:262 (2)- : Fix the distance pls n_n. Current one is 1.08
  2. 00:34:405 (1)- : move this to x256 y80 would be nice :D
  3. 00:39:762 (1)- : make the distance 1.13? current one is too close imo
  4. 00:43:334 (3)- : 1grid up?
Nothing on Normal

Hard

  1. 00:31:548 / 00:31:549 (1)- : try this slider?
    105,269,31549,6,0,P|60:240|48:192,2,100,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
  2. 00:56:912 (3,4)- : Fix the distance? Q_Q

Angel

  1. 00:39:405 (8)- : NC. Because change of slider velocity >_<
that's all :D good luck
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

- t e n n y a - wrote:


~ M4M from My Queue ~


Hi Zero__wind :D

General


  1. Add to tags: eroge ?
Don't know if it;s neccessary, not changing for now

Easy

  1. 00:27:262 (2)- : Fix the distance pls n_n. Current one is 1.08 Oh I think it's fine
  2. 00:34:405 (1)- : move this to x256 y80 would be nice :D fixed
  3. 00:39:762 (1)- : make the distance 1.13? current one is too close imo fixed
  4. 00:43:334 (3)- : 1grid up?
halfNothing on Normal

Hard

  1. 00:31:548 / 00:31:549 (1)- : try this slider?
    105,269,31549,6,0,P|60:240|48:192,2,100,2|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
    ok
  2. 00:56:912 (3,4)- : Fix the distance? Q_Q
Oh big mistake

Angel

  1. 00:39:405 (8)- : NC. Because change of slider velocity >_<
fixedthat's all :D good luck
Thx for your mod~
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind
remapping [Angel] diff
put this into WIP currently
and after I finished this I'll need another round of mods for the new diff
Let's wait and see owo

[Angel] the diff is done again
Plz mod it!!!!
Rotte
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Rotte
no kds plz
Offset should be set 2953
qkenan
134 posts
Joined October 2010
qkenan
IRC mod~

SPOILER
16:38 Zero__wind: 求看图
16:38 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:38 Zero__wind: remap完了
16:39 Zero__wind: 简单到炸
16:39 Zero__wind: Redl一下 加了hitsound
16:39 qkenan: dling
16:41 Zero__wind: ·改得我已经快不会再爱了
16:41 Zero__wind: 昨天夜里一直想梗想到趴在桌子上睡着了都没想出来 不能多说
16:42 qkenan: 好辛苦^
16:43 qkenan: so 良心
16:43 Zero__wind: 是啊……
16:44 Zero__wind: 随手HDSS了
16:44 qkenan: 粗打一遍下来，感觉基本可以了
16:45 qkenan: 有些滑条还是有点，嗯哼
16:45 qkenan: 没有overmap
16:46 Zero__wind: 有点0.0 ?
16:46 qkenan: 美观问题，小事
16:46 Zero__wind: 哦
16:46 Zero__wind: 至少感觉流畅多了是吧……
16:46 qkenan: 是的~
16:46 qkenan: 没有前作那种比较牵强的jump
16:47 Zero__wind: 这要再碰到连mod都不写直接枪毙掉的状况我真不会再爱了=。=
16:48 qkenan: =。=
16:48 qkenan: 可怜的孩子
16:49 qkenan: 00:32:607 (2,3,4,5,6) -
16:49 qkenan: 已经有点像是你招牌式的HD梗了、
16:50 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 不好看
16:51 qkenan: 00:45:822 (1) - 从这开始很长一段都是一个方向转，感觉在短的slider方向上做点变化会好些，嘛，个人感觉
16:51 qkenan: 00:47:250 (4) - 比如这个Ctrl+G
16:52 qkenan: 00:52:250 (2) - 形状……
16:52 qkenan: 00:54:036 (1) - 形状……
16:53 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:53 qkenan: 00:57:250 (5) - 画个勺子就算了，别把棱角露出来
16:53 Zero__wind: 旋转问题上我很赞成……我感觉我一个方向都快转晕了
16:53 qkenan: 连续的几个同方向，是顺手，太多就是……嗯哼
16:54 Zero__wind: 对的
16:54 qkenan: 00:58:679
16:54 qkenan: 这开始的几个Drum音效有点突兀……
16:54 Zero__wind: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个有啥建议没 我当时画得时候就比较……#$%^&*()
16:54 Zero__wind: 那几个drum音不改了 每个diff都是的
16:55 qkenan: 哦，那没事
16:55 Zero__wind: 和伴奏比较搭的其实
16:55 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个最简单就是对称着拉直
16:55 Zero__wind: 哦
16:56 qkenan: 至于别的复杂些可能更好看的改法我暂时也想不到233
16:56 Zero__wind: 嗯……我也想不到
16:56 Zero__wind: 刚mod完一张滑条非常艺术的图……
16:56 Zero__wind: 感觉技术拙计
16:57 qkenan: 可以偷偷改成my map，经常拿出来学习
16:57 qkenan: 01:09:750 (3) - 不要露棱角
16:57 Zero__wind: 嗯 把第四个锚点拆成两个好像就没问题了
16:58 qkenan: 01:16:179 (4) - 棱角，另外考虑下尾巴与①的stack？反正都是那种边缘距离差不多的那种摆法
16:58 Zero__wind: 哦
16:58 Zero__wind: 试试
16:59 qkenan: 01:19:393 (2) - 和之前的①稍稍有点overlap，拉开不拉开，随意
16:59 qkenan: 01:21:179 (3) - 包的不是很完美
16:59 Zero__wind: 哦 大丈夫 我直接是旋转的
16:59 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:59 Zero__wind: 这个也是 把红点后面的锚点拆成 刚才我问过我师傅了 owo
17:00 qkenan: =w=
17:01 Zero__wind: 我去 我发现diif名字还能是中文
17:02 qkenan: 不会变成乱码么……
17:02 Zero__wind: 不太确定噢 感觉很文艺
17:03 qkenan: 音效基本没得挑，节奏也是
17:03 qkenan: 我去骗一发kd？
17:04 Zero__wind: 好
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

qkenan wrote:

IRC mod~

SPOILER
16:38 Zero__wind: 求看图
16:38 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:38 Zero__wind: remap完了
16:39 Zero__wind: 简单到炸
16:39 Zero__wind: Redl一下 加了hitsound
16:39 qkenan: dling
16:41 Zero__wind: ·改得我已经快不会再爱了
16:41 Zero__wind: 昨天夜里一直想梗想到趴在桌子上睡着了都没想出来 不能多说
16:42 qkenan: 好辛苦^
16:43 qkenan: so 良心
16:43 Zero__wind: 是啊……
16:44 Zero__wind: 随手HDSS了
16:44 qkenan: 粗打一遍下来，感觉基本可以了
16:45 qkenan: 有些滑条还是有点，嗯哼
16:45 qkenan: 没有overmap
16:46 Zero__wind: 有点0.0 ?
16:46 qkenan: 美观问题，小事
16:46 Zero__wind: 哦
16:46 Zero__wind: 至少感觉流畅多了是吧……
16:46 qkenan: 是的~
16:46 qkenan: 没有前作那种比较牵强的jump
16:47 Zero__wind: 这要再碰到连mod都不写直接枪毙掉的状况我真不会再爱了=。=
16:48 qkenan: =。=
16:48 qkenan: 可怜的孩子
16:49 qkenan: 00:32:607 (2,3,4,5,6) -
16:49 qkenan: 已经有点像是你招牌式的HD梗了、
16:50 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 不好看
16:51 qkenan: 00:45:822 (1) - 从这开始很长一段都是一个方向转，感觉在短的slider方向上做点变化会好些，嘛，个人感觉
16:51 qkenan: 00:47:250 (4) - 比如这个Ctrl+G
16:52 qkenan: 00:52:250 (2) - 形状……
16:52 qkenan: 00:54:036 (1) - 形状……
16:53 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:53 qkenan: 00:57:250 (5) - 画个勺子就算了，别把棱角露出来
16:53 Zero__wind: 旋转问题上我很赞成……我感觉我一个方向都快转晕了
16:53 qkenan: 连续的几个同方向，是顺手，太多就是……嗯哼
16:54 Zero__wind: 对的
16:54 qkenan: 00:58:679
16:54 qkenan: 这开始的几个Drum音效有点突兀……
16:54 Zero__wind: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个有啥建议没 我当时画得时候就比较……#$%^&*()
16:54 Zero__wind: 那几个drum音不改了 每个diff都是的
16:55 qkenan: 哦，那没事
16:55 Zero__wind: 和伴奏比较搭的其实
16:55 qkenan: 00:36:179 (4) - 这个最简单就是对称着拉直
16:55 Zero__wind: 哦
16:56 qkenan: 至于别的复杂些可能更好看的改法我暂时也想不到233
16:56 Zero__wind: 嗯……我也想不到
16:56 Zero__wind: 刚mod完一张滑条非常艺术的图……
16:56 Zero__wind: 感觉技术拙计
16:57 qkenan: 可以偷偷改成my map，经常拿出来学习
16:57 qkenan: 01:09:750 (3) - 不要露棱角
16:57 Zero__wind: 嗯 把第四个锚点拆成两个好像就没问题了
16:58 qkenan: 01:16:179 (4) - 棱角，另外考虑下尾巴与①的stack？反正都是那种边缘距离差不多的那种摆法
16:58 Zero__wind: 哦
16:58 Zero__wind: 试试
16:59 qkenan: 01:19:393 (2) - 和之前的①稍稍有点overlap，拉开不拉开，随意
16:59 qkenan: 01:21:179 (3) - 包的不是很完美
16:59 Zero__wind: 哦 大丈夫 我直接是旋转的
16:59 Zero__wind: 嗯
16:59 Zero__wind: 这个也是 把红点后面的锚点拆成 刚才我问过我师傅了 owo
17:00 qkenan: =w=
17:01 Zero__wind: 我去 我发现diif名字还能是中文
17:02 qkenan: 不会变成乱码么……
17:02 Zero__wind: 不太确定噢 感觉很文艺
17:03 qkenan: 音效基本没得挑，节奏也是
17:03 qkenan: 我去骗一发kd？
17:04 Zero__wind: 好
Here's another irc mod from Athena Tennos
SPOILER
16:18 Zero__wind: 哟师傅 怒补mod啊
16:18 Athena Tennos: 0.0
16:18 Athena Tennos: 。。orz
16:18 Athena Tennos: 隨便看了下。。混KD去了。orz
16:18 Zero__wind: owow
16:19 Athena Tennos: 欠了一P谷的債。orz
16:19 Zero__wind: 估计是
16:19 Zero__wind: 我一个mod从中午写着写着睡着了……写到现在
16:19 Athena Tennos: ....
16:37 Zero__wind: 师傅求看我图 Q^Q
16:37 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
16:37 Zero__wind: Redl一下
16:41 Athena Tennos: 00:32:964 (3) -
16:41 Athena Tennos: 往←移一格
16:42 Athena Tennos: 00:51:536 (1) -
16:42 Athena Tennos: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646137
16:42 Zero__wind: 确定左移？我怎么觉得……已经盖在上面了
16:43 Athena Tennos: 。。。
16:43 Zero__wind: 00:51:536 (1) - 起点挪到（216，192）了是么
16:44 Athena Tennos: ？
16:44 Zero__wind: 你刚才那个截图
16:44 Athena Tennos: 看圖~
16:44 Athena Tennos: 嗯
16:44 Athena Tennos: 大概一樣就好了
16:44 Athena Tennos: 意思就是好看點。
16:44 Athena Tennos: 沒必要糾結準確座標。
16:44 Athena Tennos: 00:57:250 (5) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646141
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:02:964 (1) - ^
16:45 Zero__wind: http://puu.sh/2ezDA 包成这样了大丈夫？
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:09:750 (3) - 嗯
16:45 Athena Tennos: 01:09:750 (3) - 。。。
16:45 Athena Tennos: 第4個座標。。。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 分成2個來啦。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 拉。
16:46 Athena Tennos: 01:21:179 (3) - ……
16:46 Athena Tennos: I agree!
16:47 Zero__wind: 啥啥啥……信息量好大
16:47 Athena Tennos: /w\
16:47 Athena Tennos: 00:57:250 (5) - 參照這個
16:47 Athena Tennos: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/646149
16:47 Athena Tennos: slider
16:48 Athena Tennos: 弧度大的並且要均勻。
16:48 Zero__wind: 嗯 这个slider 啧啧 我纠结死
16:48 Athena Tennos: 就用2個點拉開。
16:48 Zero__wind: 哦 现在弧度不均匀对吧
16:48 Athena Tennos: 嗯
16:49 Athena Tennos: 後面結果slider
16:49 Athena Tennos: 都是這問題。
16:49 Zero__wind: 01:21:179 (3) - 这个滑条是啥意思？
16:49 Athena Tennos: 一樣
16:49 Zero__wind: 哦
16:49 Athena Tennos: 後面都一樣
16:50 Athena Tennos: 對了。。。如果橙貓改完了post不了。能幫他post
16:50 Athena Tennos: 麼。
16:50 Athena Tennos: 我準備匿2星期。orz
16:50 Zero__wind: 00:56:893 (4,5) - 这两个的相对位置还好么
16:50 Zero__wind: 我比较没谱
16:51 Athena Tennos: 還行。

Thx for your mods~
mintong89
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mintong89
零风神, 竟然可以叫那么多modder
Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind

mintong89 wrote:

零风神, 竟然可以叫那么多modder
求不黑 改得我想屎
你也再给我看一下儿吧 就Angel一个diff
Flanster
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Joined August 2010
Flanster
I've checked your bpm and offset, its all good!

Also set genre to Video Game : Japanese
Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

I've checked your bpm and offset, its all good!
Thx for confirming!
DX5536
437 posts
Joined September 2012
DX5536
Just some random Suggestion from me. Gosh, why don't this get ranked?
Easy:
I feel kinda empty (at 01:07:250 and) at 01:08:679. I would add a circle there.But it's up to you

Normal:
01:06:536 Super confused part for someone new in Normal and there are lot of mini streams. This is still Normal please have mercy and reduce the number of mini stream.

Hard:
00:42:607 This slider is kinda ugly, try something like this.This slider is from another map. You can make something similar.

How it's been make
00:54:036 (Please) make the both side of this slider same (or almost same because it's kinda ugly).

Angle:
-Nothing particular for now-

Sorry for my noob english. And Good Luck!
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

DX5536 wrote:

Just some random Suggestion from me. Gosh, why don't this get ranked?
I've requested a MAT and don't worry
Easy:
I feel kinda empty (at 01:07:250 and) at 01:08:679. I would add a circle there.But it's up to you you're right, there used to be notes. But considering that they're too intense, I removed them

Normal:
01:06:536 Super confused part for someone new in Normal and there are lot of mini streams. This is still Normal please have mercy and reduce the number of mini stream. reduced

Hard:
00:42:607 This slider is kinda ugly, try something like this.This slider is from another map. You can make something similar.

How it's been make
Thx for the idea but I think the current shape actually fits the vocal well so I'm not feel like changing it
00:54:036 (Please) make the both side of this slider same (or almost same because it's kinda ugly). seems not quite a deal

Angle:
-Nothing particular for now-

Sorry for my noob english. And Good Luck!
Thx for yur support!
spboxer3
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spboxer3
omo
[Taiko Oni]

  1. 00:09:869 (2) - remove?

  2. 00:11:179 (1) - move to 00:11:357 - ?

  3. 00:21:655 (2) - remove?

  4. 00:22:131 (1) - spinner is add here is a kinda odd for player because I can't hear any beat/voice should be hold (stream)

  5. 00:28:321 (2) - remove. I guess you follow the voice (or guitar) for your main rely, that's why I make this suggest for you.

  6. 00:36:893 (1) - remove. sound it's excess.

  7. 00:39:155 (2,3) - remove both note, they are excessive note for this part

  8. 00:41:655 (2) - remove and add note at 00:41:655 (2) -

  9. 00:43:441 (1,1) - same remove :<

  10. 00:47:489 (1) - ,01:10:345 (2) - ^

※the issue is 5 plat stream is really unsuit for 1/3,1/6 rhythm song and you try to add it, but sound your pattern didn't make this diff outstanding just make it a kinda odd for playing. :(
mintong89
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SPOILER
20:25 mintong89: (:3[____] hi
20:25 Kurosanyan: hi :o
20:25 mintong89: ヾ(:3ﾉｼヾ)ﾉ" zero wind call me irc mod for you so he can call frost to bubble
20:25 *mintong89 is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/215272 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Kurosanyan's Taiko Oni]]
20:26 mintong89: (´・ω・｀) are you have time now?
20:26 Kurosanyan: yup
20:27 mintong89: since i lazy now...so...(ﾉ´∀｀*)
20:27 mintong89: 00:06:179 (2) - delete?
20:27 mintong89: 00:09:036 (4) - ^
20:27 mintong89: oh wait...
20:28 mintong89: nonono
20:28 mintong89: 00:11:417 - add a k? because it have sound here
20:28 Kurosanyan: It have the exact same sound at 06:179 lol
20:29 Kurosanyan: I should delete both or none I think
20:29 mintong89: none plz lol
20:30 Kurosanyan: And it's more fiting with d imo
20:30 mintong89: up to you~
20:31 mintong89: 00:22:131 (1) - 顿弄不同为何要有useaspinner？
20:31 mintong89: ..
20:31 mintong89: dunno but why you use a spinner*
20:31 Kurosanyan: I'm not chinese
20:31 mintong89: i froget to change input sorry
20:31 Kurosanyan: haha
20:31 mintong89: ><"
20:31 mintong89: u can use k f
20:32 mintong89: k d*
20:32 Kurosanyan: I'm following the melody here and it would be too much boring if I use k d imo
20:33 Kurosanyan: Would be the same as the previous rhythm
20:33 mintong89: but use a spinner more boring (.
20:34 Kurosanyan: why D:
20:34 mintong89: nah just kidding
20:35 mintong89: 00:34:274 - add a d here?
20:36 Kurosanyan: But I would have to remove the finish :(
20:37 mintong89: .
20:37 mintong89: sorry orz
20:37 Kurosanyan: And it's better imo to start with the finish since there's a change in the music
20:37 mintong89: yeah
20:38 mintong89: 00:44:512 (1) - why you add k at this way? it's not fit
20:40 Kurosanyan: Yeah you're right for this one. I think I did it because there's already a kddkd before but it's better with a d
20:41 mintong89: hmm yeah
20:41 mintong89: 00:49:750 (2) - k? because it's just like 00:49:274 (5,1) - 
20:43 mintong89: 00:51:893 (1,1) - k? it's fit at imo. but d is fit too. so up to you~
20:43 mintong89: 00:51:893 (1) -  and 00:52:608 (1) - *
20:44 Kurosanyan: 00:49:750 (2) - I'm following the drums, not the melody
20:45 mintong89: ok
20:45 Kurosanyan: And d is making a better flow for the two notes where you suggested k imo
20:47 mintong89: 00:53:084 (2) -  k?
20:56 Kurosanyan: wait, for 00:44:512 (2) - you said d and now you say k?
20:56 Kurosanyan: It's the same thing :(
20:56 mintong89: really? sorry then :(
20:58 mintong89: i guess i just can found this..
20:58 mintong89: = =
20:58 Kurosanyan: meh

草沒啥改變啦 no kds plz and good luck
Kurosanyan
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Kurosanyan

spboxer3 wrote:

omo
[Taiko Oni]

  1. 00:09:869 (2) - remove? Nope

  2. 00:11:179 (1) - move to 00:11:357 - ? ^

  3. 00:21:655 (2) - remove? ^

  4. 00:22:131 (1) - spinner is add here is a kinda odd for player because I can't hear any beat/voice should be hold (stream) Well, since almost everyone is complaining about my spinner, I removed it and made dd k instead. I don't like it but I hope it's ok now.

  5. 00:28:321 (2) - remove. I guess you follow the voice (or guitar) for your main rely, that's why I make this suggest for you. I follow the drums for almost the whole map, why would I follow the vocals...?

  6. 00:36:893 (1) - remove. sound it's excess. ??? I guess you wrote the wrong note here because I don't understand why I should remove this one.

  7. 00:39:155 (2,3) - remove both note, they are excessive note for this part I think my mapping fit to the drums here

  8. 00:41:655 (2) - remove and add note at 00:41:655 (2) - There's already a note at 00:41:655 (2) - and no for the other suggestion.

  9. 00:43:441 (1,1) - same remove :< Nope

  10. 00:47:489 (1) - ,01:10:345 (2) - ^ ^

※the issue is 5 plat stream is really unsuit for 1/3,1/6 rhythm song and you try to add it, but sound your pattern didn't make this diff outstanding just make it a kinda odd for playing. :( I don't try anything, I just map the stuff I hear.
Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind
updated the taiko oni
Hope all the diffs are fine now
Frostmourne
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Frostmourne
hi

General
Offset seems late, offset should be 2960 (-5) make sure you don't forget to resnap all notes and green lines as well

Easy
00:33:673 (3) - this slider ends weirdly, it has no sound on the music on the end of the slider so I suggest you remove this note 00:34:387 (1) - and end this slider at this point instead
00:56:531 (2) - whistle head so the sound in the music will correspond with 00:57:244 (3) - and 00:55:816 (1) - as well

Normal
00:40:107 (1) - whistle head sounds weird, I will remove it only head here , the tail still sounds nice here
00:41:536 (3) - I would add whistle at 1st and 2nd points because they will correspond with 00:40:107 (1) - 's tail
01:21:714 (1,2,3,4) - it's really confusing for this part. Actually it shouldn't be confusing but what you have done so far in this diff are about 01:17:964 (4,5,1,2) - which is really complicated and hard to read but whatever , it sounds nice in the other side too.
So, to prevent the conflicted rhythmical logic here , I suggest you use this rhythm as you have done before so it will still be understandable as it should be
SPOILER

I will check the Hard and Insane later because some of them which I'm not sure are 1/6 beats
Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Frostmourne wrote:

hi

General
Offset seems late, offset should be 2960 (-5) make sure you don't forget to resnap all notes and green lines as well all diff fixed

Easy
00:33:673 (3) - this slider ends weirdly, it has no sound on the music on the end of the slider so I suggest you remove this note 00:34:387 (1) - and end this slider at this point instead fixed
00:56:531 (2) - whistle head so the sound in the music will correspond with 00:57:244 (3) - and 00:55:816 (1) - as well fixed

Normal
00:40:107 (1) - whistle head sounds weird, I will remove it only head here , the tail still sounds nice here fixed
00:41:536 (3) - I would add whistle at 1st and 2nd points because they will correspond with 00:40:107 (1) - 's tail only added on head
01:21:714 (1,2,3,4) - it's really confusing for this part. Actually it shouldn't be confusing but what you have done so far in this diff are about 01:17:964 (4,5,1,2) - which is really complicated and hard to read but whatever , it sounds nice in the other side too.
So, to prevent the conflicted rhythmical logic here , I suggest you use this rhythm as you have done before so it will still be understandable as it should be
SPOILER
fixed

I will check the Hard and Insane later because some of them which I'm not sure are 1/6 beats
After hours and hours of testing and fixing, I've made Hard diff and Angel diff Almost consistent in rhythm. And about some particular points which I was also not sure, we really need a discussion in-game!

All diffs updated!
Frostmourne
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Frostmourne
did some IRC discussion for an hour

Good luck for the first map!
mintong89
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mintong89
恭喜bubble
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DX5536
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DX5536
Congraz.
Next step: Ranked!
^you can see this as a joke if you want.
Good luck!again
wantuole
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wantuole

mintong89 wrote:

恭喜bubble
留名
Stefan
Global Moderator
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Stefan
Awaiting the rank of this Map. :D
Scorpiour
2,633 posts
Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
Hi there~~ pop for wrong artistunicode

[General]
  1. ArtistUnicode : 池田春菜
  2. Add Leaf to your tags
  3. Inconsistent Combo colours... could u give me a reason?
may mod it thoroughly later
Zero__wind
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Zero__wind

Scorpiour wrote:

Hi there~~ pop for wrong artistunicode

[General]
  1. ArtistUnicode : 池田春菜
  2. Add Leaf to your tags
  3. Inconsistent Combo colours... could u give me a reason?
may mod it thoroughly later
General fixed
Different combbo colors for different BGs
I think they were chosen delicately and won't make any trouble for players
Flask
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3,473 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
This is a small issue, but if you can take a look on taiko muzu/oni, the bg will be like this while playing:

Muzu
Oni

Do you get it? The girl's face in the bg has overlapped by the playfield. Set this in the notepad may solve this problem:

Muzu:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,100 (current 1,1)

Oni:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,150 (current 1,1)

You can change the number if you want, but please do not let the playfield overlaps the face!

@Zero__Wind: 看到記事本裡[events]的第二行0,0,"bg",1,1全改成0,0,"bg",0,0. 1,1會造成遊戲時BG偏移1pixel

Good luck!
Zero__wind
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Topic Starter
Zero__wind

Flask wrote:

This is a small issue, but if you can take a look on taiko muzu/oni, the bg will be like this while playing:

Muzu
Oni

Do you get it? The girl's face in the bg has overlapped by the playfield. Set this in the notepad may solve this problem:

Muzu:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,100 (current 1,1)

Oni:
//Background and Video events
0,0,"taiko1.jpg",0,150 (current 1,1)

You can change the number if you want, but please do not let the playfield overlaps the face!

@Zero__Wind: 看到記事本裡[events]的第二行0,0,"bg",1,1全改成0,0,"bg",0,0. 1,1會造成遊戲時BG偏移1pixel

Good luck!
fixed~ thx a lot
Scorpiour
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Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
okay~~here's my mod, sorry for my late due to my courseworks >_<
No Kds, please~~，然后中文mod了，方便理解

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions

[Angel]
  1. 首先，我不反对用1/6，而且这个曲子用1/6也还算合适……只不过曲子本身的鼓点和吉他和vocal重音是1/4的所以多少觉得有点off
  2. 00:07:483 (5,6) - 这里，前面同样的1/6的二连你用了stack，这里一下子距离拉开很远。考虑到Kick Slider头部的点击特性，我更期待(4)->(5)之间能有个大间距的跳，而不是在(5)->(6)之间。虽然这么放并不会太坑，但总觉的不舒服。二连的话，我认为是00:09:269 (4,5) - 的间距放的比较适合。
  3. 00:08:317 (1) - 这个NC在我看来这个地方和前面是一句上的，所以NC应该放到后面的Note上而不是这里
  4. 00:12:424 - vocal重音在这里（注意是个1/4），所以如果不想放打击点的话，我认为至少把slider的红色拐点对齐这里来突出一下也好，现在的拐点位置歪到前面去了。
  5. 00:15:340 - 建议加note，vocal重音
  6. 00:17:960 (2) - 考虑到vocal结构，拆成slider+note的样子？比如这种：
  7. 00:21:055 - 加note建议
  8. 00:21:888 (3,4) - slider尾带来的错位感，听着不舒服，建议节奏：
  9. 00:27:721 - 依然是空拍空的很不舒服的点
  10. 00:28:555 (1,2) - 这跳的间距你是认真的？
  11. 00:29:388 (2,3,4) - 前面一直1/6为什么这一段突然就变回1/4了？
  12. 00:33:912 (6) - Slider轨道被遮挡的比较严重。其实这里我觉得2个note就刚好，是个放空拍的好地方。
  13. 00:41:769 (4) - 依然是2连间距问题叠到后面(5)那里去不好么？从开头到这里你几个2连间距就一直在变……很乱诶……如果你下定决心就用这个坚决的话也最好前后统一。
  14. 00:54:031 (1) - 做成对称吧
  15. 00:56:531 (3) - 突然一个红点的折线slider感觉比较违和。这不还没进kiai呢弄成弧线吧
[Taiko Oni]
  1. SliderTickRate 3 for 1/6 based
  2. 00:08:317 (1) - k?
  3. 00:14:031 (1) - k?
  4. 01:14:745 (5,1) - k d?
[Taiko Muzukashii]
  1. SliderTickRate 1 for 1/4 based
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:840 (6,7) - 感觉slider更合适
  2. 00:26:531 (2,3,4,5) - 和Insane一样，为什么从这里开始突然就变成1/4based了
  3. 00:56:531 (1,2,3,4,5) - 难看+难打
  4. 00:59:626 (4,5) - 又变回1/6了，另外建议slider
  5. 01:07:067 (1,2) - 不要这样1/4 1/6来会切换好不好很难受的……而且这还是Hard。。。
  6. 01:11:055 (3,4) - Slider
Hard整体难度和Insane太接近，而且我觉得你在做的时候完全没有想清楚到底是要按1/4来走还是1/6

[Normal]
  1. 00:17:245 (1) - 形状弯的有些过了
  2. 00:24:209 (2) - 建议删掉
  3. 00:26:888 (2,3) - 毕竟是Normal，稍微考虑下难度的问题吧，相当于168bpm的1/2连打新人会困扰的，放一个slider就会好很多了
  4. 00:28:317 - 这里倒是可以放个note来平衡你的节奏
  5. 00:45:817 (3) - stack没叠好
  6. 00:54:031 (4) - 向上挪动到74:185，对齐spacing和blanket
  7. 00:57:067 (3,4) - 1. 难度问题 2. 遮挡问题 。所以建议改掉做成这样
    SPOILER
  8. 01:18:317 (5,1) - 依然是难度问题
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:245 (1) - 中间描点往左上放放，扭曲的太多了
  2. 00:21:531 (2) - 尾巴向下放平一点
    SPOILER
  3. 00:28:317 - 这里可以加个note，空拍不是很好听
  4. 00:29:388 (1,3) - 弧度做小点并且拉对称了
  5. 00:35:817 (2) - 都出屏幕了，竖过来放不好么……没必要把自己给憋到死角去吧
    SPOILER
  6. 00:39:745 (3) - 去掉尾巴上的whistle音
  7. 00:41:531 (1) - 依然是自己把自己堵死的节奏……和后面(2)做成对称的样式吧
    SPOILER
  8. 01:07:245 - 建议加note，这里节奏是对称的
  9. 01:08:674 - ^
  10. 01:11:174 (3) - 已经都贴边了还要往外拐，直着上去稍微斜一点不就好了
  11. 01:17:245 (2) - NC挪到这里来
大概就是这样了。我的意见是在rebubble之前再去找几个靠谱的mod好好修改一下吧，现在这质量泡的实在是太勉强。

另外，taiko也需要更多的mod，现在的质量很难过关。Taiko staff的意见是直接remap，自己考虑下吧。
Lan wings
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Lan wings
Timing錯誤導致用的1/6
offset:5841 or 2983
估計你原來是因為timing不對導致1/4對不上,然後發現1/6能稍微對上點才用的1/6吧?
重新用1/4remap下吧少年
Zero__wind
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Got no mood and no time for this these days
got a lot courses, comptetions, school comunity stuff and blah blah blah
and got into some trouble with my girlfriend blah blah blah
Hope I'll strike this post in a few days' time
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LKs
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作图还要晒妹是不是该烧

[Timing]

Above all timing is slightly off, use 108/5823(+6) instead

Don't listen to these two notes:
00:00:108 (1) - there is only guitar sound
00:02:965 (5) - this is where the the sweep picking begins, the sweep pick sounds in hundreds of ms so it's not good reference



a relatively big timing shift here, add 2 red lines plz

[Rhythm&Placement]

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/701193 First try, just missed the sowdown slider and got 3 100s. However I didn't feel like I was clicking notes accurately, the reason I got such high ACC is due to low OD and the big amount of sliders(which are more easy on getting 300s)

The following are reasons of the problem:

1. The random/unperfect usage of 1/4 and 1/6

First of all, let's make an important thing clear: 1/4 or 1/6, which one is more suitable for this map? both of them are okay to follow but the better answer is 1/6.
Technically speaking, many drums and part of the vocal were arranged in 1/6, and we can easily judge which one is better by comparison:

00:10:102 (1,2,3,4) - snap all these 4 notes by 1/4 snap divisor, it sounds weird and just like a broken tape recorder playing ancient songs(lag lag blahblah)

Okay, therefore, your map's problem is the existence of 1/4 rhythms, why did you use them? for not making a boring map or so? Imo 1/6 is fun enough. Actually since you have to map without distance snap quite often in Hard, i.e. you need to put jumps. It's hard to steer clear of confusion when playing. The song itself doesn't have strongly obvious 1/4-1/6 change so it's not necessary to switch them in your map, even though you designed them carefully.

00:44:269 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - 之前那种双slider违和感还不强 这种节奏就明显猎奇了

So make your choice here, use only 1/4 or 1/6, don't mingle them in one map. (ofc, 1/6 is my suggestion

2. Spacing and jumps

Some jumps are not recommended for they are unexpected

Examples:

00:06:531 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/2yAwc distance between 3&4, 5&6 are almost the same(blank line), but the players need to move 1 times faster to click 5&6, which doesn't play smoothly, although the sudden jump is not huge, the song is quiet here isn't it?
00:10:817 (3) - This slider leans too much to the right http://puu.sh/2yADV you can see in the pic the track suddenly becomes harsh with acute angle, especially when this is a 1/6 jump, it'd be better this way http://puu.sh/2yAB0
00:22:483 (4) - again, spacing looks the same but time spans differ. NC, or change this pattern, like reduce spacing betweenhttp://puu.sh/2yAK8
00:28:555 (1,2) - you can use jumps like this, but most of these jumps should be based on patterns, that's to say only when the previous notes have already formed a good structure can we use them for enhancing the playing experience. here is not a good place to set it


---------
00:09:269 (4,5,6) - nazi like this alignment should be checked by yourself, not going to point them out.
00:13:198 (4,5) - 00:09:269 (4,5) - same here, don't use different spacing between notes like this, pay attention to better consistency
00:13:674 (6) - maybe it's only me, this looks ugly
00:54:745 (2,3) - blanket的间距要一致
01:02:959 (1) - 这种blanket要用两个node解决 不然效果就不好
01:16:174 (4) - http://puu.sh/2yATm 波浪slider的基础就是对称node 一样的不提了
01:22:960 (1) - 一般我们惯性习惯把最后一个放在延长线上 然而如果stack在01:21:888 (1) - 头呢 你可以考虑一下

3. Hitsound

Above all, the usage of custom soft-hitwhistle is good.

Well, another severe problem in your map is hitsound, the song is soft, which means it could be followed well by soft samplest and a little bit normal samplest adorned at downbeat

but the fact is you used them too frequently

actually notes before 00:09:745 (6) - should have a single normal sound, in regardless of this

00:06:531 (3,4) - no normal on the ends
00:07:602 (6) - no normal on the beginning
00:08:674 (3) - ^
00:08:555 (2) - no normal. ok now listen to the intro again. there is contrast between strong and soft parts in the music. I'm not going to fix all for you, you'd check and fix the whole map accordingly

00:35:459 (2,3,4) - remove normal on the beginnings
00:32:586 (2,3,4,5) - think about this yourself, some of normal samplests need to be changed to soft ones
00:37:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:06:537 (2,3,1,2,3) - don't use normal sound on the ends. it's too strange to give the ends such strong sounds
Zero__wind
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翅膀大爷我给您跪了
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Zero__wind
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Scorpiour wrote:

okay~~here's my mod, sorry for my late due to my courseworks >_<
No Kds, please~~，然后中文mod了，方便理解

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions

[Angel]
  1. 首先，我不反对用1/6，而且这个曲子用1/6也还算合适……只不过曲子本身的鼓点和吉他和vocal重音是1/4的所以多少觉得有点off
  2. 00:07:483 (5,6) - 这里，前面同样的1/6的二连你用了stack，这里一下子距离拉开很远。考虑到Kick Slider头部的点击特性，我更期待(4)->(5)之间能有个大间距的跳，而不是在(5)->(6)之间。虽然这么放并不会太坑，但总觉的不舒服。二连的话，我认为是00:09:269 (4,5) - 的间距放的比较适合。 k
  3. 00:08:317 (1) - 这个NC在我看来这个地方和前面是一句上的，所以NC应该放到后面的Note上而不是这里 k
  4. 00:12:424 - vocal重音在这里（注意是个1/4），所以如果不想放打击点的话，我认为至少把slider的红色拐点对齐这里来突出一下也好，现在的拐点位置歪到前面去了。 k
  5. 00:15:340 - 建议加note，vocal重音 k
  6. 00:17:960 (2) - 考虑到vocal结构，拆成slider+note的样子？比如这种：
    k
  7. 00:21:055 - 加note建议 k
  8. 00:21:888 (3,4) - slider尾带来的错位感，听着不舒服，建议节奏：
    k
  9. 00:27:721 - 依然是空拍空的很不舒服的点 改了节奏
  10. 00:28:555 (1,2) - 这跳的间距你是认真的？ 改了结构
  11. 00:29:388 (2,3,4) - 前面一直1/6为什么这一段突然就变回1/4了？ 哎呀反正以前跟vocal的地方就用了1/4 跟鼓的就用了1/6 现在全都1/6了
  12. 00:33:912 (6) - Slider轨道被遮挡的比较严重。其实这里我觉得2个note就刚好，是个放空拍的好地方。 no
  13. 00:41:769 (4) - 依然是2连间距问题叠到后面(5)那里去不好么？从开头到这里你几个2连间距就一直在变……很乱诶……如果你下定决心就用这个坚决的话也最好前后统一。 就用大间距了
  14. 00:54:031 (1) - 做成对称吧 k
  15. 00:56:531 (3) - 突然一个红点的折线slider感觉比较违和。这不还没进kiai呢弄成弧线吧 k
[Taiko Oni]
  1. SliderTickRate 3 for 1/6 based fixed
  2. 00:08:317 (1) - k?
  3. 00:14:031 (1) - k?
  4. 01:14:745 (5,1) - k d?
[Taiko Muzukashii]
  1. SliderTickRate 1 for 1/4 based fixed
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:840 (6,7) - 感觉slider更合适 k
  2. 00:26:531 (2,3,4,5) - 和Insane一样，为什么从这里开始突然就变成1/4based了 ^
  3. 00:56:531 (1,2,3,4,5) - 难看+难打 改了节奏
  4. 00:59:626 (4,5) - 又变回1/6了，另外建议slider k
  5. 01:07:067 (1,2) - 不要这样1/4 1/6来会切换好不好很难受的……而且这还是Hard。。。 节奏都改了
  6. 01:11:055 (3,4) - Slider k
Hard整体难度和Insane太接近，而且我觉得你在做的时候完全没有想清楚到底是要按1/4来走还是1/6 全都1/6了 感觉这不可能难啊

[Normal]
  1. 00:17:245 (1) - 形状弯的有些过了 k
  2. 00:24:209 (2) - 建议删掉 k
  3. 00:26:888 (2,3) - 毕竟是Normal，稍微考虑下难度的问题吧，相当于168bpm的1/2连打新人会困扰的，放一个slider就会好很多了 k
  4. 00:28:317 - 这里倒是可以放个note来平衡你的节奏 不太想 而且感觉不好放
  5. 00:45:817 (3) - stack没叠好 fixed
  6. 00:54:031 (4) - 向上挪动到74:185，对齐spacing和blanket k
  7. 00:57:067 (3,4) - 1. 难度问题 2. 遮挡问题 。所以建议改掉做成这样
    SPOILER
    k
  8. 01:18:317 (5,1) - 依然是难度问题 删了个note
[Easy]
  1. 00:12:245 (1) - 中间描点往左上放放，扭曲的太多了 k
  2. 00:21:531 (2) - 尾巴向下放平一点
    SPOILER
    k
  3. 00:28:317 - 这里可以加个note，空拍不是很好听 不 保持和前面的节奏型一致
  4. 00:29:388 (1,3) - 弧度做小点并且拉对称了 k
  5. 00:35:817 (2) - 都出屏幕了，竖过来放不好么……没必要把自己给憋到死角去吧
    SPOILER
    k
  6. 00:39:745 (3) - 去掉尾巴上的whistle音 no
  7. 00:41:531 (1) - 依然是自己把自己堵死的节奏……和后面(2)做成对称的样式吧
    SPOILER
    no
  8. 01:07:245 - 建议加note，这里节奏是对称的 一开始加了的 就是被说太难了又删了 行吧 我又加回来了 还不够我纠结的
  9. 01:08:674 - ^ ^
  10. 01:11:174 (3) - 已经都贴边了还要往外拐，直着上去稍微斜一点不就好了 k
  11. 01:17:245 (2) - NC挪到这里来 k
大概就是这样了。我的意见是在rebubble之前再去找几个靠谱的mod好好修改一下吧，现在这质量泡的实在是太勉强。

另外，taiko也需要更多的mod，现在的质量很难过关。Taiko staff的意见是直接remap，自己考虑下吧。 太鼓我自己真不知道该怎么说 找过五六个人看过了 也没改出什么东西来=。= 我真是#$%^&*()
Finished all the fixing except for Taikos
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Zero__wind
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LKs wrote:

作图还要晒妹是不是该烧 求神拉克丝饶小的一命Q^Q

[Timing]

Above all timing is slightly off, use 108/5823(+6) instead k

Don't listen to these two notes:
00:00:108 (1) - there is only guitar sound
00:02:965 (5) - this is where the the sweep picking begins, the sweep pick sounds in hundreds of ms so it's not good reference



a relatively big timing shift here, add 2 red lines plz I really know NOTHING about this! Thanks for the help...

[Rhythm&Placement]

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/701193 First try, just missed the sowdown slider and got 3 100s. However I didn't feel like I was clicking notes accurately, the reason I got such high ACC is due to low OD and the big amount of sliders(which are more easy on getting 300s) I think OD7 is OK 0.0

The following are reasons of the problem:

1. The random/unperfect usage of 1/4 and 1/6

First of all, let's make an important thing clear: 1/4 or 1/6, which one is more suitable for this map? both of them are okay to follow but the better answer is 1/6.
Technically speaking, many drums and part of the vocal were arranged in 1/6, and we can easily judge which one is better by comparison:

00:10:102 (1,2,3,4) - snap all these 4 notes by 1/4 snap divisor, it sounds weird and just like a broken tape recorder playing ancient songs(lag lag blahblah)

Okay, therefore, your map's problem is the existence of 1/4 rhythms, why did you use them? for not making a boring map or so? Imo 1/6 is fun enough. Actually since you have to map without distance snap quite often in Hard, i.e. you need to put jumps. It's hard to steer clear of confusion when playing. The song itself doesn't have strongly obvious 1/4-1/6 change so it's not necessary to switch them in your map, even though you designed them carefully.

00:44:269 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - 之前那种双slider违和感还不强 这种节奏就明显猎奇了

So make your choice here, use only 1/4 or 1/6, don't mingle them in one map. (ofc, 1/6 is my suggestion Made Hard diff and Angel diff with 1/6 all the way through

2. Spacing and jumps

Some jumps are not recommended for they are unexpected

Examples:

00:06:531 (3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/2yAwc distance between 3&4, 5&6 are almost the same(blank line), but the players need to move 1 times faster to click 5&6, which doesn't play smoothly, although the sudden jump is not huge, the song is quiet here isn't it? got it, fixed
00:10:817 (3) - This slider leans too much to the right http://puu.sh/2yADV you can see in the pic the track suddenly becomes harsh with acute angle, especially when this is a 1/6 jump, it'd be better this way http://puu.sh/2yAB0 no, I got it really smooth
00:22:483 (4) - again, spacing looks the same but time spans differ. NC, or change this pattern, like reduce spacing betweenhttp://puu.sh/2yAK8 k
00:28:555 (1,2) - you can use jumps like this, but most of these jumps should be based on patterns, that's to say only when the previous notes have already formed a good structure can we use them for enhancing the playing experience. here is not a good place to set it changed the arrangement


---------
00:09:269 (4,5,6) - nazi like this alignment should be checked by yourself, not going to point them out. fixed, but I JUST DON'T want them to line up
00:13:198 (4,5) - 00:09:269 (4,5) - same here, don't use different spacing between notes like this, pay attention to better consistency fixed, a big deal
00:13:674 (6) - maybe it's only me, this looks ugly =.=
00:54:745 (2,3) - blanket的间距要一致 k
01:02:959 (1) - 这种blanket要用两个node解决 不然效果就不好 didn't got it
01:16:174 (4) - http://puu.sh/2yATm 波浪slider的基础就是对称node 一样的不提了 fixed all
01:22:960 (1) - 一般我们惯性习惯把最后一个放在延长线上 然而如果stack在01:21:888 (1) - 头呢 你可以考虑一下 nice idea

3. Hitsound

Above all, the usage of custom soft-hitwhistle is good.

Well, another severe problem in your map is hitsound, the song is soft, which means it could be followed well by soft samplest and a little bit normal samplest adorned at downbeat

but the fact is you used them too frequently

actually notes before 00:09:745 (6) - should have a single normal sound, in regardless of this

00:06:531 (3,4) - no normal on the ends
00:07:602 (6) - no normal on the beginning
00:08:674 (3) - ^
00:08:555 (2) - no normal. ok now listen to the intro again. there is contrast between strong and soft parts in the music. I'm not going to fix all for you, you'd check and fix the whole map accordingly About the first part, I changed, but changed into a really different sound pattern, comparing with your suggestion

00:35:459 (2,3,4) - remove normal on the beginnings
00:32:586 (2,3,4,5) - think about this yourself, some of normal samplests need to be changed to soft ones
00:37:602 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:06:537 (2,3,1,2,3) - don't use normal sound on the ends. it's too strange to give the ends such strong sounds I think I reduced many of normal sounds, but still not that much as you want. I think this is what I want now.
Really thx for the unexpected help!!!!!!!
Scorpiour
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Scorpiour
irc-rechecked with mapper, fixed unsnaped/timing point conflicts, and also change some hitsounds and a few NC issue

rebubbled~

SPOILER
22:54 *Scorpiour is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/197497 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Normal]]
22:54 Scorpiour: Normal
22:54 Scorpiour: 00:32:251 (2) - 这里有unsnapped
22:54 Zero__wind: 我不会处理这种多红线的东西 虽然拉克丝教我怎么设了
22:54 Zero__wind: 不过东西我不知道怎么放
22:55 Zero__wind: 现在的这个slider的长度其实是二分拍时长的没错 不过这样算作unsnapped么
22:56 Scorpiour: 算
22:56 Scorpiour: 找泡泡帮你弄了
22:56 Zero__wind: 那是啥意思0.0
22:56 Scorpiour: taiko KPY说可以给放过
22:56 Scorpiour: 去抓popner。。。
22:56 Zero__wind: 抓他来做什么？
22:56 Scorpiour: 他比较熟悉弄这种跨红线的slider
22:56 Zero__wind: 哦
22:57 Zero__wind: 不过其实…这个地方不就只有两种选择么 除了像我现在这个样子之外 就是让它在00:32:592 - 结束
22:58 Scorpiour: 但是你现在这样做的是不行的……所以其实就一种选择了。。。
22:58 Zero__wind: 哦 那我就改成那样呗=。=
22:58 Scorpiour: snap这种事情没办法啦
22:58 Scorpiour: 别的应该没有什么大问题
22:59 Zero__wind: 诶 我好好像还真不会改 尼玛
22:59 Scorpiour: Hard
23:00 Scorpiour: 00:45:822 (8) -
23:00 Zero__wind: 不太清楚怎么样能让它短那么一点点=。= 一会儿再弄弄看
23:00 Scorpiour: 把NC挪到这里
23:00 Zero__wind: 哦
23:00 Scorpiour: 那个snap你直接找popner
23:00 Scorpiour: 我和他说了
23:08 Scorpiour: 然后
23:09 Scorpiour: Normal
23:09 Scorpiour: 00:08:323 (5) - 从这里开始这一串的normal whistle是怎么回事…………
23:09 Zero__wind: 嘛 其实后面几个diff本来也有 然后remap改了节奏型才没了=.=
23:09 Scorpiour: 那Normal也不要了
23:10 Scorpiour: 听着有点别扭
23:10 Zero__wind: 成
23:10 Scorpiour: 00:39:750 (2) - 这里这段也是……
23:12 Scorpiour: 01:02:607 (3) - 这个whistle也可以拿掉
23:12 Scorpiour: 01:14:035 (2) - 还有这个
23:12 Zero__wind: 嗯我听下
23:13 Scorpiour: 和你的Angel对照一下音效
23:13 Zero__wind: 嗯 其实这些段落ENH的音效是统一的
23:14 Scorpiour: 嗯……尽量把diff间做成一致
23:14 Zero__wind: 但是I的节奏型完全不一样了没法跟它们统一
23:14 Zero__wind: 所以我觉得这个样子应该…还好吧
23:14 Scorpiour: 后面这几个影响倒是不大
23:14 Scorpiour: 最开始那段不好听
23:14 Zero__wind: 行
23:15 Scorpiour: 你自己Hard/Easy在开头也没有whistle，所以那里去掉，其他的随意了
23:16 Zero__wind: OK
23:16 Scorpiour: 就这样吧，把那个snap弄好然后更新
23:21 Scorpiour: 更新好了叫我
23:25 Zero__wind: 哦我自己还有个地方要问的
23:25 *Zero__wind is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/175583 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so... [Angel]]
23:26 Zero__wind: 00:14:394 (1,2,3) - 和00:20:108 (1,2,3) -
23:26 Zero__wind: 这2个地方用1/4没问题吧
23:27 Scorpiour: 00:14:394 (1,2) - 我自己会倾向于snap到1/3，00:15:108 (3) - 1/4或者1/6没有区别
23:28 Zero__wind: 嗯 对于那个note来说是无关紧要的
23:28 Zero__wind: 只是滑条长度会有变化
23:28 Scorpiour: 滑条长度变化也不是麻烦
23:28 Zero__wind: 这个地方我最开始map的时候 用了default的whistle就是先跟伴奏里那5声旋律
23:28 Scorpiour: 我自己的话肯定会做横1/3长度的滑条，不过只是我个人选择而已
23:28 Scorpiour: 后面那里也是
23:28 Zero__wind: 我听起来那5个音是等间距的
23:29 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:29 Zero__wind: 那行吧 那我按自己的来了
23:29 Scorpiour: http://puu.sh/2OAzJ.jpg
23:29 Scorpiour: 恩
23:30 Zero__wind: upload了
23:31 Scorpiour: 恩稍等
23:31 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:42 Scorpiour: 你刚才是不是动红线了？
23:43 Zero__wind: 嗯 泡泡让我加的
23:44 Scorpiour: 加了就要所有diff都一起加
23:44 Scorpiour: 然后所有diff都要一起snap....
23:44 Zero__wind: 都加了
23:44 Scorpiour: resnap
23:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:44 Scorpiour: Easy呢
23:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
23:44 Zero__wind: 啊?没有么
23:44 Scorpiour: taiko呢
23:44 Scorpiour: 2个taiko也要加，而且taiko里没有snap
23:44 Zero__wind: 都加了
23:44 Zero__wind: 红线都加了 所有地方
23:45 Scorpiour: muzukashii没有加
23:45 Zero__wind: 所有diff *包括太鼓
23:45 Zero__wind: 呃?
23:45 Scorpiour: 我这里直接报错了
23:45 Scorpiour: 自己按Ctrl+shitf+A检查
23:45 Zero__wind: 我真的加了啊 那我再上传一遍
23:45 Zero__wind: 我这里真的加了=.=
23:45 Scorpiour: 上传之前自己再看一遍
23:45 Scorpiour: 按ctrl+shift+A确定没有conflict报错
23:46 Zero__wind: 稍等 好像是有些问题 不过不是那个问题
23:48 Zero__wind: 所有红线都统一了 也都查了AImod
23:49 Scorpiour: 然后snap
23:49 Zero__wind: AImod里面没有报不应该就意味着snap没问题么?
23:49 Scorpiour: double check...
23:49 Zero__wind: 要重新检查snap的地方应该只有多加红线的那个地方吧
23:50 Zero__wind: 我自己查一下
23:50 Scorpiour: 从加了红线的点向后全都要检查
23:50 Zero__wind: 哦
23:51 Zero__wind: 那个红线的目的其实就是为了调Normal里面那一个slider的长度 新加的红线后面马上就有另一条原来就有的拉克丝帮我设的红线 对它再后面的东西的snapping是不构成影响的
23:51 Zero__wind: 那个红线的目的其实就是为了调Normal里面那一个slider的长度 新加的红线后面马上就有另一条原来就有的拉克丝帮我设的红线 对它再后面的东西的snapping是不构成影响的
23:51 Scorpiour: 但是红线本身会相互影响…………
23:51 Scorpiour: 总之很麻烦的说……
23:51 Zero__wind: 0.0
23:54 Zero__wind: 好的你赢了=。= 在Hard里我真的查出了一个
23:57 Zero__wind: 都查过了 上传好了
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irc mod by NatsumeRin
17:15 Zero__wind: 铃爷求rank图
17:15 *Zero__wind is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/197495 Haruna Ikeda - I hope so...]
17:15 NatsumeRin: .
17:22 NatsumeRin: 除了taiko没gd是吧
17:22 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:22 NatsumeRin: 那我irc过一遍，看到哪说到哪
17:22 Zero__wind: 好
17:23 NatsumeRin: 00:43:321 (3,4,1,2) - 略丑
17:23 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2PbVe.jpg 前面弄个等边三角之类
17:23 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:24 NatsumeRin: 01:00:821 (4) - 希望别
17:24 Zero__wind: ？
17:24 Zero__wind: 挪到左手边？
17:25 NatsumeRin: 恩虽然没什么事但是Easy还是别走这种重复路线比较好
17:25 NatsumeRin: 尤其是选择余地比较大的时候
17:25 Zero__wind: 成 那我顺带01:10:464 (1,2,3,4) - 一起改了
17:26 NatsumeRin: 00:32:770 (3,4,5) - 怪异
17:26 NatsumeRin: Normal
17:27 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:27 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2Pc1i.jpg
17:27 NatsumeRin: 正常逻辑是这样吧
17:27 Zero__wind: 我对比一下
17:27 NatsumeRin: http://puu.sh/2Pc1i.jpg...
17:27 NatsumeRin: 错
17:27 NatsumeRin: 00:37:964 (1) -
17:27 NatsumeRin: 。。没太懂
17:28 Zero__wind: 就是想一个滑条带过后面那个旋律伴奏
17:30 NatsumeRin: Hard
17:30 NatsumeRin: 00:08:323 (6,7) -
17:30 NatsumeRin: 刚才那个就是好奇问下没别的事
17:30 NatsumeRin: 这个不建议
17:30 Zero__wind: 哦
17:30 NatsumeRin: 00:22:846 (6) - 单用后面那个音比较好
17:31 Zero__wind: 只用一个note 不用滑条？
17:31 NatsumeRin: 恩我是这个感觉
17:31 NatsumeRin: 另外我刚才就想问了。。。
17:32 NatsumeRin: 为什么Hard用1/3 Normal用1/2。。。
17:32 Zero__wind: 因为难道N可以用1/3么=。=
17:32 NatsumeRin: 有人说不行吗。。。
17:33 Zero__wind: 我也不太清楚……感觉E和N都是1/1 1/2
17:33 Zero__wind: 其实可不可以这么解释
17:33 Zero__wind: 我E和N是跟的vocal H和N是打的鼓点
17:33 Zero__wind: H和I
17:33 NatsumeRin: 勉强放了吧。。。
17:34 NatsumeRin: 00:07:489 (5,6) - 像23那样就好，单用看着也不舒服。。
17:34 NatsumeRin: 00:08:323 (7,1,2) - 能别就别
17:34 NatsumeRin: 叠时不要换节奏
17:35 Zero__wind: Hard？
17:35 Zero__wind: 因为太远？
17:35 NatsumeRin: Angel
17:35 Zero__wind: 哦 我就说怎么好像没看到
17:35 NatsumeRin: 00:10:823 (3) - 我觉得问题有点大了。。。
17:35 Zero__wind: 懂*
17:35 Zero__wind: 稍等
17:36 Zero__wind: 哦
17:36 NatsumeRin: 这明显已经不在音上了
17:36 Zero__wind: 嗯？
17:36 NatsumeRin: 00:10:823 (3) -
17:36 NatsumeRin: 结尾的鼓肯定是蓝线
17:37 Zero__wind: 嘛……嗯 应该是 不过那就又要混1/4和1/6？
17:37 NatsumeRin: 。。。什么叫又要混
17:38 NatsumeRin: 如果你是在跟，在这种地方下法肯定是唯一的啊
17:38 Zero__wind: 因为我开始就是分了有的地方用1/4有的地方用1/6 然后就被轮番炮轰……
17:40 NatsumeRin: 我看眼帖子
17:40 Zero__wind: Sco和拉克丝都说 因为曲子也很明显的1/4和1/6之间切换的地方 就不要混着用了 就算我是有静心设计的怎样怎样
17:41 Zero__wind: 虽然Frost一开始放我的时候他说觉得混着用没问题 还讨论了好多地方到底应该1/4还是1/6
17:41 NatsumeRin: 。。。
17:41 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:41 NatsumeRin: 我只能希望不被un
17:41 Zero__wind: 同……
17:41 NatsumeRin: 00:29:275 (1,2) - 手动右下走一点
17:42 NatsumeRin: 你找人rank目标就是不被un吗
17:42 Zero__wind: 我会说un一次我人参就完整了么……
17:42 NatsumeRin: 00:43:679 (3,4,1) - 间距看不懂
17:43 Zero__wind: 4离前后的间距差太大？
17:43 Zero__wind: 我想想
17:43 NatsumeRin: 前面2/3
17:43 NatsumeRin: 后面1/3
17:43 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:43 NatsumeRin: 间距相同
17:44 NatsumeRin: 00:55:464 (4) - 照之前的思路，肯定要往远了放
17:44 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:45 NatsumeRin: 01:17:965 (2,3) - whistle呢
17:45 NatsumeRin: 01:19:393 (2,3) - 同
17:46 Zero__wind: 到最后换了一下下音效的方法…还是做成和前半一样比较好咯？
17:46 Zero__wind: 当然也不是不可以
17:47 NatsumeRin: 有意的话就ok
17:47 Zero__wind: 哦 有意的
17:47 NatsumeRin: 没兴趣干涉这个
17:48 NatsumeRin: 弄好了传吧
17:48 Zero__wind: 嗯
17:56 NatsumeRin: 好了么
17:56 Zero__wind: 没
17:56 NatsumeRin: 那好了叫我
17:57 Zero__wind: 嗯
18:20 Zero__wind: 好了
18:20 NatsumeRin: 恩
18:20 NatsumeRin: 。刚才退了下没存log
18:20 Zero__wind: 我有
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irc modded. Ranked.

Though i still hope a better quality map but for newbie... anyway.
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Finally ranked~ grats
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恭喜你啊 ^^ 继续加油！！！
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你知道吗，我已经不敢再下载这图了
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Awesome. Graz
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Strawberry wrote:

Zero__wind
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NatsumeRin wrote:

irc modded. Ranked.

Though i still hope a better quality map but for newbie... anyway.
Yeah I understand
anyway, I'd get better a one next time
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lkx_Shore wrote:

你知道吗，我已经不敢再下载这图了
有这么夸张=。=
好吧……可能有
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Finally! Gratz :3
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瞎了
英雄翅不声不响的就rank了
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恭喜啊=w=
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祝贺你！=w=
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恭喜rank
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‘100’ has a so special meaning

we saw your effort ,your progress and the achievement

we are expecting your better performance in future

congratz ;)
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qkenan wrote:



‘100’ has a so special meaning

we saw your effort ,your progress and the achievement

we are expecting your better performance in future

congratz ;)
Aha, finally someone noticed this
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grats
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哇~！恭喜rank/w\！！！~
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Athena Tennos wrote:

哇~！恭喜rank/w\！！！~
嘿嘿 师傅发现得太晚了~
睡懒觉了吧owo
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Thx again for you all who helped !
This really meas so much to me !

I know that I didn't do the best I could on this map,
after this got ranked and there were so many pro players playing this
And when spectating them I realized some points which is not perfect
But I will do better next time !
And about the maybe-exsisting offset problem,
I have to say that this is really far more that what I can handle
I just accepted timing helps from BATs
And if there are small problems indeed
I'm sorry
But it seems that this won't lead to an unrank.
So I just wanna say... I hope so...
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Finally :3
Grats ~
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来晚了0.0
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Wooow finally :3 congrats /me late
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added something new in the creator's words and fixed so many stupid spelling mistakes omg =.=
and thanks again to all who supported and helped
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