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GeeNX
When you are playing for upgrade division you have to win 3 of 5, niceeee!!
tyrael6192
isn't it 2 out of 3?
GeeNX
2 of 3 if you upgrade division V TO IV, IV to III etc, but 3 of 5 if you upgrade from Silver to Gold etc
tyrael6192
ahh, gotcha
GeeNX


lux 2 mushrooms or 1 Q + AA

vayne Q+2 AA or Q+1AA+ ignite
Colin Hou
Breeze
hhhhhhhh
South
sigh, ive been getting the worst luck out of this new system. climbing back to gold is gunna take ages ._.
Yarissa
Floyd, what league did you start at? I started at Silver 1 and supposedly a lot of the leagues are glitched. You can lose your promotion matches and get demoted a league in my league. Or at least, so my friend has told me. I'm not doing any ranked until that (and this piece of shit graphics card that came broken) gets fixed
Wojjan
I was silver I yesterday. Back in placing.
GeeNX
I am "about" enter gold V , I have 100 points 2 W 2 L , if I win, I promote, if not I dont, this is the fucking 3rd time I have that promo, and always 3 L 2 W, this will be the same, meh
Nofool
Eu server
Username : foolno
i can play everything everywhere 8D no joking !
actually Platinum V but i'm probably bad cause i'm french T_T
add me if you want n_n
Yuffy-Nu
Summoner name: Yafui
Lvl 30 been playing since 2010 June :x
Add me if you want, it'd be fun to play with new people.(New to me)
Fabi

GeeNX wrote:

I am "about" enter gold V , I have 100 points 2 W 2 L , if I win, I promote, if not I dont, this is the fucking 3rd time I have that promo, and always 3 L 2 W, this will be the same, meh
I know somewhat that feel. I played 4 times the promotion to Silver I :/
Justykanna
I guess everyone plays ranked nowadays. =O
Vulf
I ended up dodging my first placement match because 3 people complained about me picking jungle Warwick. This new ranked system seems to have made ranked a whole hell of a lot more stressful than it needs to be. I'd rather just play normals and not care.
JesusYamato
Nah i have 4000+ normal games (2200wins 1800 losses) if u count all my accounts, i just dick around a lot.
Ranked too try hard, i play once in a while to test myself but i never take it too seriously.

Also i don²t really get it, i was 1560 when preseason ended and it still put me in silver I, meh i don²t even care

Yuffy-Nu wrote:

Summoner name: Yafui
Lvl 30 been playing since 2010 June :x
Add me if you want, it'd be fun to play with new people.(New to me)
Added
Aoriki
The whole new ranking system seems to be causing some stress to friends of mine cause they took the ranking games more serious. I asked them why and they want to be better then everyone else, I never take this game serious at all and I won't be doing ranking games anytime soon.

Also...dafuk happen to this match? o_o;

Cleatis
Feel free to add me too, my name is I Feed My Lane.
Kanye West
Where did Phreak go...?
NikFreaX
Its been a while since I've played. What are the top ADC's and Supports nowadays?
Sync

NikFreaX wrote:

Its been a while since I've played. What are the top ADC's and Supports nowadays?
How long are we talking? It's been more or less the same (with the exception of Nunu(nerfed pretty hard recently)/Cait/Miss Fortune becoming very popular recently) since finals. Ezreal is still #1 probably. Corki has been seeing less and less play since S3 started (the trin force cost reduction might help).

No idea how far you're talking and I can only really talk about the last 5 or 6 months
those
Ezreal focuses more on bursts of damage, and with the building of Trinity Force dying down, he is driven further and further away from this focus. Iceborn Gauntlet doesn't match Trinity Force's damage output; it's more of a utility item.
NikFreaX

Sync wrote:

NikFreaX wrote:

Its been a while since I've played. What are the top ADC's and Supports nowadays?
How long are we talking? It's been more or less the same (with the exception of Nunu(nerfed pretty hard recently)/Cait/Miss Fortune becoming very popular recently) since finals. Ezreal is still #1 probably. Corki has been seeing less and less play since S3 started (the trin force cost reduction might help).

No idea how far you're talking and I can only really talk about the last 5 or 6 months
Thanks, and yeah I've been gone for that 5-6 month period.
Sync
Yes, the building of Trinity Force is dying down BECAUSE of Iceborn Gauntlet (and it cost so much, but it's like 300g less now) (on ezreal, anyways)

Iceborn Gauntlet is a great item on Ezreal -- it offers an AoE damage + slow to suit his pokey nature. I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly -- do you think Ezreal isn't as good because Trinity Force is less favorable?
those
No no, Trinity Force is less popular because it got a really huge nerf on patch V1.0.0.152. However, people have yet to realize that for an extra 503 gold you get so much more damage output compared to Iceborn Gauntlet; 30 AD PLUS a bonus equal to 150% of your AD instead of 125% for just 500 gold? It's a steal! Perhaps I just don't consider Iceborn Gauntlet on Ezreal a good enough buy.
Sync
Yes, it was cost inefficient because of the nerfs. Phage takes ~forever~ to build now.

I'm not sure how long ago the price reduction on Trinity Force was (a week or two, perhaps? More?). People may be building it more often now, especially on Ezreal. However, Iceborn Gauntlet in combination with his Q is really nothing to mess around with, especially when poking under tower where everybody is pretty close together.

The main problem with Ezreal is that he doesn't get punished enough for mistakes made. Compared to Corki's escape, his blink is less mana and on a much lower cooldown as well (EDIT: It's actually has a lot more range, though. Not sure if this compensates or not. Also they lowered the mana costs (or are planning to) recently so perhaps he's really not that bad right now). He's super safe in lane and pretty hard to pull off a gank on a lot of the time if you catch him while his cooldowns are up.

Honestly though, I don't play AD/Support that much; however, I'm pretty sure Ezreal is the most popular AD Carry still in both low-level play and competitive play because not only is he easy to pick up, he's very rewarding if played well. Didn't he get nerfed in the last patch? Perhaps he'll start seeing less play now though I expect him still to be a pretty standard pick.

(70% unrelated to the topic at hand)

(buff corki for players like me who can't AD plzzz)
Ephemeral
triforce has never been cost inefficient and will never be cost inefficient unless it is raised to 5000-5400 gold and even then i'd still buy it on a few characters

its stat distribution is basically a flat base upgrade to almost every single character stat and the extra 50% on spellblade proc and phage slow merged into one item makes it a fantastic buy on just about anyone. iceborn is nice, but much better on characters that can utilize the extra stats (gauntlet on malphite is a terrifying thing). don't be tricked into thinking the field slow deals damage when the field is initially placed - it doesn't, a lot of people seem to think it does

ezreal's escape is a small factor in what makes him so good, tbh. his passive is EXTREMELY good for an AD, possibly the best passive of all the AD carries since a 45% attack speed increase is a massive dps increase which can be maintained with very little effort on his part over the course of a teamfight. it's a natural flat power bonus to him that makes every purchase of AD on him worth more by default simply because he can use it better. couple this with essence flux still imparting a fairly potent slow, a free flash every 16 seconds, a global ultimate and a 1.55x attack range poke/farming ability and you get one of the most well-rounded attack skillsets that league has to offer

and to compensate for that he has mediocre base health and poor resist scaling - something shared with every other AD carry

AD ezreal has never been a poor pick even in the depths of his nerfs way back when, he was just a lot harder to pick up then. with the new itemization offering even greater offensive polarisation on him, he's super-viable now and they'd literally have to chuck a rengar on him to drop him down to a reasonable level. so they wont and instead will likely bring other AD carries up to his level with small changes as they have been doing
Agnes

Justykanna wrote:

I guess everyone plays ranked nowadays. =O
Screw ranked.

loljk I'm almost level 30. But in all honesty, I don't really plan to play ranked for a while, unless I'm going to be duo queueing with zerothefallen, or in a full team of five. Solo queue will never be my thing, for I will just awkwardly stare at people as they die around me and expect me to do something when I'm the only one alive out of a bad engagement.

fwiw, my summoner name is Meliin, both on PBE and NA
noneed_old
To the guy who asked about botlane:
#1 MF
#2 Ez, Cait
#3 The rest
^ can be argued obv, but I honestly feel like we have a new holy trinity. MF, Ez and Cait with MF having a slight edge. Sure, Graves is still fine for quick lvl 6 burst combo but thats p much it.

About Trinity Force and why it isn't that good anymore:
They recently reduced the recipe price to 3, which is a good step in the right direction but not the one Ez needed. What hurts most is the fact that Phage is so damn expensive now. 1465 g, which you could spend on a BF sword which is better for every AD. Well, you would have to farm 85 more but thats only one wave. I don't care about the 1 to 5 slow chance it gives Ez, I feel better off with a BF Sword than a Phage any day. Some people do start with the Sheen now when they go for Trinity which is ok. Sheen is still cheap, but you'd rely on hitting all your Qs. Else you wouldn't get much of it. Starting off with Zeal is just stupid anyway.
Imo there currently are 2 very good build for Ez:
1)Berserker's, Bloodthirster, Last Whisper, Statik Shiv, Infinity Edge and Warmogs.(Sell Boots for Zephyr when it gets to very late game)
2) Berserker's, Bloodthirster, Last Whisper, Gauntlet, Infinity Edge and Shiv. (I'd use that if I had to constantly kite)
Justykanna

Agnes wrote:

Screw ranked.

loljk I'm almost level 30. But in all honesty, I don't really plan to play ranked for a while, unless I'm going to be duo queueing with zerothefallen, or in a full team of five. Solo queue will never be my thing, for I will just awkwardly stare at people as they die around me and expect me to do something when I'm the only one alive out of a bad engagement.
I'm not level 30 yet either.
I *usually* play normal with four other people but since I got a job recently, I've been unable to join them.
I do like normal, even without them though. Just solo queueing kinda sucks when I'm used to be with four others in ventrilo.
fwiw?
noneed_old
For my last promotion game I got to play with Citizen(mid for Acer) and against Bob. Was a good game :)
GeeNX
I think trinity just worths on corki at the moment
tyrael6192
that new corki skin art <3 haven't seen it in game yet, but dang
Justykanna
Lol, if you wanna add me, Agnes, be my guest (if that's what you were getting at). =P
Hakeru

tyrael6192 wrote:

that new corki skin art <3 haven't seen it in game yet, but dang
i love that fireworks <3
WishfulFiction
Annie particles are so cool, especially frostfire Annie. That blue fire *_*
Aoriki
Panda Annie looks so adorable. And her recall is just so....hnnnng~ Panda hug.
tyrael6192
get first blood vs akali as riven

get accused of hacks because i can 'see through stealth'

endgame "gg game won by a hacker hope you're proud"
Hakeru
Sona new splash just hnghhhh much;;;
ThunderHat

tyrael6192 wrote:

get first blood vs akali as riven

get accused of hacks because i can 'see through stealth'

endgame "gg game won by a hacker hope you're proud"
It's obvious you spammed Q in the Twilight shroud, right? I mean, that Akali was so noob, you can't hide with the W if you're vsing Riven lol
tyrael6192

Hakeru wrote:

Sona new splash just hnghhhh much;;;
holy..... *_*

ThunderHat wrote:

It's obvious you spammed Q in the Twilight shroud, right? I mean, that Akali was so noob, you can't hide with the W if you're vsing Riven lol
Aye, stunned, ignited, spam q in shroud. das hax tho u cant do that
Hakeru
how to use Elise's E ugh
Vulf

tyrael6192 wrote:

get first blood vs akali as riven

get accused of hacks because i can 'see through stealth'

endgame "gg game won by a hacker hope you're proud"
I used to get stuff like this a lot. Warwick is so under played that people don't know that his E gives true vision in bushes and fog of war. lol
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

get first blood vs akali as riven

get accused of hacks because i can 'see through stealth'

endgame "gg game won by a hacker hope you're proud"
People hack this game? o_O
tyrael6192
No hahaha, never seen anyone do it since dr terrible back whenever with the 100% cdr on flash... this game seems pretty hack-proof tbh oO makes it all the more silly that she would assume i was hacking
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

No hahaha, never seen anyone do it since dr terrible back whenever with the 100% cdr on flash... this game seems pretty hack-proof tbh oO makes it all the more silly that she would assume i was hacking
I'm shocked at how stupid the League community is sometimes...
tyrael6192
You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
ThunderHat

tyrael6192 wrote:

You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
Well, any free online strategy game is a retard magnet, but in LoL you can just avoid those by being a good player and playing ranked games :P
South

ThunderHat wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
Well, any free online strategy game is a retard magnet, but in LoL you can just avoid those by being a good player and playing ranked games :P
lol'd
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
Any game is a retard magnet. I point specifically to WoW.
Wishy
A game retard magnetic power is related to how newbie friendly it is, sadly most games are. :(
NikFreaX

ThunderHat wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
but in LoL you can just avoid those by being a good player and playing ranked games :P
Oh, how I wish that was true.
WishfulFiction

ThunderHat wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

You get used to it

It's like the retard magnet of the gaming world
Well, any free online strategy game is a retard magnet, but in LoL you can just avoid those by being a good player and playing ranked games :P
No.
Justykanna
I've never played ranked (and I'm not even level 30), so I could be wrong, but wouldn't ranked just mean you're playing for a rating?
In no way do League players need to be 'good' to start ranked, it's just about longevity.
Haseo_old
guys wwaht do u think about quinn

also
SPOILER


best zhao i ever had
tyrael6192

Justykanna wrote:

I've never played ranked (and I'm not even level 30), so I could be wrong, but wouldn't ranked just mean you're playing for a rating?
In no way do League players need to be 'good' to start ranked, it's just about longevity.
what happens is people want to win so there's kind of an element of forced cooperation... you won't instalock quite as often because it just jeopardizes your chances of winning, and you won't go all out troll mode

but semi-repressing your urge to be a cunt isn't the same thing as being nice so tl;dr everyone is still a cunt

also my point is it's more noticeable in league (and therefore other moba games or team games) because you actually have to rely to an extent on the randoms you get matched with in order to win, as opposed to games that are ffa and such
noneed_old
http://www.lolsummoners.com/search?regi ... =sakujoyou

great website to keep track of your progress since there is no ranking system on the official website.
Justykanna

tyrael6192 wrote:

what happens is people want to win so there's kind of an element of forced cooperation... you won't instalock quite as often because it just jeopardizes your chances of winning, and you won't go all out troll mode

but semi-repressing your urge to be a cunt isn't the same thing as being nice so tl;dr everyone is still a cunt

also my point is it's more noticeable in league (and therefore other moba games or team games) because you actually have to rely to an extent on the randoms you get matched with in order to win, as opposed to games that are ffa and such
I usually play normal with three or four friends so I'm probably not exposed to the general community as much as others have.
Yeah, you do have to rely on randoms, so point taken.
Vulf
If you can avoid solo queue with premade games then do it. Solo queue is awful most of the time.
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

If you can avoid solo queue with premade games then do it. Solo queue is awful most of the time.
That's why my friends and I prefer doing such. Randoms make things annoying.
Hakeru
http://www.elohell.net/chill/211548

new champion? i don't even--
Vulf
Nope. This was posted on the NA forums last year. From what i remember it was a contest thing.
Agnes
However, there is a new champion that's underway. I think it falls under the name of Quinn / Quin, assumed to be a Demacian counterpart of Swain. And an AD Carry. This is just what I heard, though.
Stefan

Hakeru wrote:

http://www.elohell.net/chill/211548

new champion? i don't even--
Looks like Nasus+Anivia put together in a Mixer. LOL
GeeNX
looks like Ra, one of egipcian's god
Vulf

GeeNX wrote:

looks like Ra, one of egipcian's god
That's the idea. I'm all for another egyptian god based champion, but sadly this is fan made.
Hakeru
i see :/ , i think it would be nice if riot make a champ based on greek myth
Zerostarry

Hakeru wrote:

i see :/ , i think it would be nice if riot make a champ based on greek myth
Cassiopeia = Medusa

?
Hakeru
ikr , but i want more lol
noneed_old

NikFreaX wrote:

ThunderHat wrote:

but in LoL you can just avoid those by being a good player and playing ranked games :P
Oh, how I wish that was true.

But it is.
Sure I occasionally enjoy 5s with close friends or people from the /v/ chat but solo queue is becoming fun for me as well. Every game with and against diamond players, couple of famous names here and there and the games are challenging and fun. Though there are known trolls which I try to avoid by dodging(you barely lose any LP) ranked solo is basically the place I go to improve while having fun.
those
threenash
zerothefallen
sona confirmed for taking 7/8 of Ez's kills


I think she belongs in a museum.
GeeNX
@Hakeru: Yeah me too, not just greek, other ones from others mythologies, like from vikings, though olaf is from there, but could be others too, anyways that champs are funny...and I dont know, I think riot could do a champ every 2 months or that based on fan's idea, most voted ones, or something like that, the idea that WE , players, could help designing a champ, I think would be so nice, they do like 2 , 3 champs then 1 with some ideas from gamers, I think would be nice though riot is totally

Money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People

Sadly
Agnes

zerothefallen wrote:

sona confirmed for taking 7/8 of Ez's kills


I think she belongs in a museum.
'ay 'ay

i don't mean to kill people; they shouldn't be standing still

Anyway, Zero and I here are likely to play some normals today. Does anybody wish to join us later? We're in NA and PBE.
Justykanna

Agnes wrote:

Anyway, Zero and I here are likely to play some normals today. Does anybody wish to join us later? We're in NA and PBE.
I added you to my Friends List, Agnes.
Poke me if you decide to go and I'm around (and you want an extra body) =P.
zerothefallen

Agnes wrote:

zerothefallen wrote:

sona confirmed for taking 7/8 of Ez's kills


I think she belongs in a museum.
'ay 'ay

i don't mean to kill people; they shouldn't be standing still

Anyway, Zero and I here are likely to play some normals today. Does anybody wish to join us later? We're in NA and PBE.
YOU BELONG IN A MUSEUM
Vulf

GeeNX wrote:

@Hakeru: Yeah me too, not just greek, other ones from others mythologies, like from vikings, though olaf is from there, but could be others too, anyways that champs are funny...and I dont know, I think riot could do a champ every 2 months or that based on fan's idea, most voted ones, or something like that, the idea that WE , players, could help designing a champ, I think would be so nice, they do like 2 , 3 champs then 1 with some ideas from gamers, I think would be nice though riot is totally

Money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People

Sadly
I'd be fine with them not making any new champions at all for a few months. They really need to take the time to fix some of the champions that are just plain awful eg warwick, karma, heimer, sion, gangplank and poppy (just to name a few) will never see competitive play with how nonviable they are. "Money > People" that may be true, but there is also a thing called powercreep that can easily sneak up and do some damage to a games population. With the recent champions that have come out there is basically no reason to play some of the older ones unless your trying to fill a niche role. Why should I be reported, and called a troll for playing my favorite champions? lol

Also there are tons of champions that they can make skins for so it's not like they will lose a lot of revenue for slowing champion releases.
zerothefallen

Vulf wrote:

GeeNX wrote:

@Hakeru: Yeah me too, not just greek, other ones from others mythologies, like from vikings, though olaf is from there, but could be others too, anyways that champs are funny...and I dont know, I think riot could do a champ every 2 months or that based on fan's idea, most voted ones, or something like that, the idea that WE , players, could help designing a champ, I think would be so nice, they do like 2 , 3 champs then 1 with some ideas from gamers, I think would be nice though riot is totally

Money >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People

Sadly
I'd be fine with them not making any new champions at all for a few months. They really need to take the time to fix some of the champions that are just plain awful eg warwick, karma, heimer, sion, gangplank and poppy (just to name a few) will never see competitive play with how nonviable they are. "Money > People" that may be true, but there is also a thing called powercreep that can easily sneak up and do some damage to a games population. With the recent champions that have come out there is basically no reason to play some of the older ones unless your trying to fill a niche role. Why should I be reported, and called a troll for playing my favorite champions? lol

Also there are tons of champions that they can make skins for so it's not like they will lose a lot of revenue for slowing champion releases.
Ww is fine.
Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

warwick, karma, heimer, sion, gangplank and poppy
All of them are viable, you just can't play them properly. Pros don't use them because there are other champs that do their job better. Viable in the pro scene =/= viable in general.
Vulf
With over 1000 games with Warwick I can tell you he isn't in a good spot right now. He is getting a buff according to morello, but i'm not sure how long that will take. He was indirectly nerfed with S3 changes.

Karma, Sion and Heimer (confirmed by riot) are getting a rework, but it probably won't be for a bit much like the twitch and eve reworks took over a year.
WishfulFiction
ww buff soon(tm)

I think it's because his clear is mediocre, and pretty bad later on into the game because he has no aoe
also because his ultimate is game changing for mid game but then does nothing late game because it does nothing in team fights if your opponents have any cc
Vulf

WishfulFiction wrote:

ww buff soon(tm)

I think it's because his clear is mediocre, and pretty bad later on into the game because he has no aoe
also because his ultimate is game changing for mid game but then does nothing late game because it does nothing in team fights if your opponents have any cc
His clear is below average, and his pre 6 ganks are terrible cause you have to rely on your lanes to have some sort of stun to get a successful gank (people literally walk away from you pre 6 lol). He has good sustain. His first clear leaves you with about 90%+ hp, but this is a terrible trade off with how bad his clear speed and pre 6 ganks are. Yes any cc will basically cancel his ult. He has been played in so few amount of games that the bug on his ult (that has been there for over a year now) hasn't been fixed or even acknowledged by riot yet. He also has one of the lowest mana pools in the game ( 3 Q's and your out of mana). 90% of the items he builds got nerfed in season 3 with a gold cost increase. This is already bad for a jungler who can be starved for gold easily. Lanewick is too niche to play above 1500 elo.

I think riot is going to rework him. Some of his kit is outdated ( his E for example) compared to a lot of the newer stuff that has come out since 2012.
brikepicness

Vulf wrote:

WishfulFiction wrote:

ww buff soon(tm)

I think it's because his clear is mediocre, and pretty bad later on into the game because he has no aoe
also because his ultimate is game changing for mid game but then does nothing late game because it does nothing in team fights if your opponents have any cc
His clear is below average, and his pre 6 ganks are terrible cause you have to rely on your lanes to have some sort of stun to get a successful gank (people literally walk away from you pre 6 lol). He has good sustain. His first clear leaves you with about 90%+ hp, but this is a terrible trade off with how bad his clear speed and pre 6 ganks are. Yes any cc will basically cancel his ult. He has been played in so few amount of games that the bug on his ult (that has been there for over a year now) hasn't been fixed or even acknowledged by riot yet. He also has one of the lowest mana pools in the game ( 3 Q's and your out of mana). 90% of the items he builds got nerfed in season 3 with a gold cost increase. This is already bad for a jungler who can be starved for gold easily. Lanewick is too niche to play above 1500 elo.

I think riot is going to rework him. Some of his kit is outdated ( his E for example) compared to a lot of the newer stuff that has come out since 2012.
i do agree, the only thing i liked about WW is his sustain and ult (his autos are so annoying to play with)
Hakeru

Agnes wrote:

Anyway, Zero and I here are likely to play some normals today. Does anybody wish to join us later? We're in NA and PBE.
count me in o/
Vulf

brikepicness wrote:

i do agree, the only thing i liked about WW is his sustain and ult (his autos are so annoying to play with)
His sustain is only good if he is ignored. With 3+ ignites in every game now he has a hard time doing what his kit is meant to do, and that is fine since it's a counter anyways.
noneed_old
6 items WW is retarded, lol.
Frozen Fist, Warmogs, Sunfire, Blotrk(gives AS now as well), Merc's and Randuin's. He will stick to the enemy AD and won't stop until he is dead. Only problem is getting to that point. His clear is bad, his pre 6 ganks are bad and his teamfights pre 6 items is mediocre.
1onz
Many people don't realize this but WW is a really strong pick against Elise top. Everyone else pretty much gets dumped on by solo top elise. WW can pretty much sustain all of Elise's poke with his Q early and survive lane phase enough to buy chalice on first buy. Even though his jungle is close to garbage, you can still use him pretty well in solo lanes and have some success. If WW gets decent farm then he can 1v1 Elise pretty easily. His post 6 ganks on mid lane are huge, if you have a burst AP mid, can usually burn summoners or get a kill every time your ult is up mid. Oh, and this isn't some random Bronze game lol, I've seen and played versus this first hand at Diamond V-III.
Vulf
The new botrk will be decent on him now that it gives stats he wants. He can only use half of that item currently lol.

He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.

I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.
brikepicness

Vulf wrote:

The new botrk will be decent on him now that it gives stats he wants. He can only use half of that item currently lol.

He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.

I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.

True, the funny thing is that now i hardy see any WW players at all '~'
Justykanna

brikepicness wrote:

True, the funny thing is that now i hardy see any WW players at all '~'
I've seen very few in normal.
Saw one today and I don't even remember when before that.
Vulf
He is played in less than 5% of all games and has less than a 50% win rate. The only people that are playing him are the few who main him, and the pre 30 people who want to learn the jungle cause he is one of the few junglers who can clear without runes.
JesusYamato
the new BORK is broken.


Sadly 99% of people on PBE are bad players so they can²t pick up retarded OP items off the bat, just like preseason 3 black cleaver, it²s beyond me how that item even got through PBE.
Vulf
It's only broken with how common health stacking is. If you build armor instead of health botRK is still a mediocre item. Health should have never been a go to for single resist throughout the entire game. Now that botrk will actually punish warmog stackers people will start building the proper resist to things again. I am happy with this change.
Stefan


Dem Kha killed me three times. -.-
GeeNX


Sad we won after I bought hydra's, I just could test it for feew time, anyways, KASS OP that nida, I got dced like 4 times in the game, my internet is going so bad for 2 weeks...meh, instant dc, and 5 sec later come again
those
Hydra is melee only though, how does it work?
Vulf
It's been a really long time since i've gotten this fed as jungle Warwick.

theowest
Any cool updates I should be aware of in this game since I quit last year?
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