any ideas??? just wanted to know 
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Tanzklaue wrote:
(let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities")
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Which is more important? Cursor movement or Streaming
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Cursor movement or Streaming?
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you are korean. you will get godlike eventually.
on a more serious note: they are equally important, both being one third (let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities"), and the last one being accuracystuff.
on a more serious note: they are equally important, both being one third (let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities"), and the last one being accuracystuff.
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
my aiming recently got upgraded from "horrible" to "decent".winber1 wrote:
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
yay, I can hope again.
Movement hard thothelewa wrote:
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
There are people that can learn how to stream properly and there are people that can naturally stream better than top rank players.Hika wrote:
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
I'm really only talking about stream speeds because while people that have played for years could only stream say 240bpm, people that could have just joined could stream 280bpm, whereas cursor movement is just ALL practice/training.
no, there are people who learn to stream, people who just spam and claim that they can stream, people who think clicking 5 1/4 notes means to stream the given BPM, people who use macros, and maybe >1% people who are just natural streaming talents (hello jesus).buny wrote:
There are people that can learn how to stream properly and there are people that can naturally stream better than top rank players.Hika wrote:
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
Well all we're doing is just comparing opinions here so there isn't really a right answer to it.Tanzklaue wrote:
no, there are people who learn to stream
Those are the people who probably just started playing osu
people who just spam and claim that they can stream
in the end that's what streaming is, except in rhythm
people who think clicking 5 1/4 notes means to stream the given BPM
what does that have to do with anything?
people who use macros
same as above
maybe >1% people who are just natural streaming talents (hello jesus).
jesse also worked hard to get to where he is now
Aim is harder and more important, if you miss then your play is no good, if you get somewhat bad acc@streams but still don't miss then your play is good.
Then again some streams are hard because of spacing.
Streaming CAN BE a natural talent, some people just have a better sense of rhythm/stronger fingers. Same can happen with aim though but I don't think it's that notorious.
Then again some streams are hard because of spacing.
Streaming CAN BE a natural talent, some people just have a better sense of rhythm/stronger fingers. Same can happen with aim though but I don't think it's that notorious.
Ok. Apparently the different ideas of skill development are like religions on here..
Totally bullshit lol... everything is training unless you have some kind of bone/muscles/hands disorder lolthelewa wrote:
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
Oh yeah, about stream speed. Just start working out or something, it's all about muscles. Nothing else, really.
"mostly just natural skill"
Also better clicking abilities is meaningless if you can't support it with cursor movement, so basically this
Also better clicking abilities is meaningless if you can't support it with cursor movement, so basically this
winber1 wrote:
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
Mashing your keyboard works best there, there's no real workout to those few muscles in your forearm you need for streaming.thelewa wrote:
Oh yeah, about stream speed. Just start working out or something, it's all about muscles. Nothing else, really.
Personally I think cursor movement is the most important. But if you ask "which is more important to train first?" then I'll say streaming, or I prefer to say accuracy, is the most important. It'll help you in the long run.
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
what this guys said.silmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
I lack streaming speed so bad but i'm decent in movements
So i've always looked jelly the faster stramers 
But i do think they are equally important.
You need aim for EVERY map whilst streaming only applies to some.
Either way I think they're both important. I find aim is harder to improve. Honestly there's no right answer, different people have different strengths.
Either way I think they're both important. I find aim is harder to improve. Honestly there's no right answer, different people have different strengths.
You can always practice songs with both jumps and spaced streams if you want to improve at both simultaneously.
What kind of streaming we're talking about here by the way. Endurance, speed, or accuracy?
Each of them has different priority for me.
Each of them has different priority for me.
but i suck at streamingsilmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
*looks at poll results* Yeah no seriously guys what
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Only if you can't stream 222bpm which isn't even what makes freedom dive hard in the first placeJappyBabes wrote:
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.Aqo wrote:
*looks at poll results* Yeah no seriously guys what
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
ok. Both streaming and jumps are hard, but streaming is harder to train.
There is a thing called physical limitation.
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.darkmiz wrote:
buny wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
physicall limitation is completly different for every human. look at bodystatures, some people are to small to reach for something in 2 meter height.Pacemaker wrote:
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.
I agree but disagree with your first statement, unless you're treating 3/5 stack notes as streams.darkmiz wrote:
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
ok. Both streaming and jumps are hard, but streaming is harder to train.
There is a thing called physical limitation.
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
Mind telling us who the examples are?darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
I used tablet once and I couldn't even pass osu!tutorial. Your argument is invalid.darkmiz wrote:
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
I suck at streams. I always sucked at it anyway. Cursor movement is something you get sooner or later by practicing.
untill a couple of months ago i couldnt even pass 185 bpm for more than 9ish notesFrizz wrote:
Mind telling us who the examples are?darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Mind telling us who the examples are?Frizz wrote:
darkmiz wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
I still can't properly stream above 160 with over a year of playing. I can't keep up over 175ish at all.
I think this comes down to what level of play you are at. Once you get near the top streaming will be much more important since the hardest maps are typically high bpm. At the beginning, though, accurate cursor movement is key to getting better.
What. Yes it is.buny wrote:
Only if you can't stream 222bpm which isn't even what makes freedom dive hard in the first placeJappyBabes wrote:
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or what
I can stream 220bpm for 10 notes. 215bpm for 20 notes. 205bpm for 50 notes. 185bpm for 100 notes.
The above is more or less true for the large part of people who play this game actively and are keyboard-only streamers - i.e. 200bpm short term, 180bpm long term. Being able to stream 220bpm long-term is literally something most players are not physically capable of.
Are you a wizard. How the hell do you stream this fast this long.
If bpm was the bigger problem on freedom dive, there'd be a lot more no mod scores on it.Aqo wrote:
What. Yes it is.
I can stream 220bpm for 10 notes. 215bpm for 20 notes. 205bpm for 50 notes. 185bpm for 100 notes.
The above is more or less true for the large part of people who play this game actively and are keyboard-only streamers - i.e. 200bpm short term, 180bpm long term. Being able to stream 220bpm long-term is literally something most players are not physically capable of.
Are you a wizard. How the hell do you stream this fast this long.
This game is combo based, cursor movement relates to combo while streaming relates to accuracy. If your aim is good then you can FC lots of maps, then again you will probably fail at stuff like chipscape, but it's not like there are many maps like that. Then again if your aim is bad, even if you're a godlike streamer (see KeigoClear) you gonna have trouble with lots of maps, failing to FC even while getting top tier accuracy. Of course, other players gonna have a lot of trouble beating you, but then again you gonna go mad trying to FC any kind of hard map + mods since all of them end up requiring very good aim.
Both are important, but if I had to choose godlike aim or streaming, I'd get aim, no doubt. Remember how those most impressive scores you see from Niko, WW, Cookiezi and rrtyui are pretty much aim based. Even if their accuracy is great too, there are some other players that probably can get the same accuracy as them, but yet they can't do it because their aim is not good enough.
Freedom Dive is not hard because of 300 hit long 222 BPM streams, not at all, the stream practice version is way more exhausting and demanding than 4D, yet it is way easier to clear.
Both are important, but if I had to choose godlike aim or streaming, I'd get aim, no doubt. Remember how those most impressive scores you see from Niko, WW, Cookiezi and rrtyui are pretty much aim based. Even if their accuracy is great too, there are some other players that probably can get the same accuracy as them, but yet they can't do it because their aim is not good enough.
Freedom Dive is not hard because of 300 hit long 222 BPM streams, not at all, the stream practice version is way more exhausting and demanding than 4D, yet it is way easier to clear.
Even KeigoClear can't FC Freedom Dive, so I consider it a jump map.
It's not really a jump map tho.
Jump = snapping
Tracing streams = flow movement
it's not jumps. it's movement. there's a big difference.
how do you wizards stream this fast and this long. can you upload videos of your fingers or something
give me the ability to stream 222~230bpm kb-only without getting tired and I'll pass freedom dive every day
Tracing streams = flow movement
it's not jumps. it's movement. there's a big difference.
how do you wizards stream this fast and this long. can you upload videos of your fingers or something
give me the ability to stream 222~230bpm kb-only without getting tired and I'll pass freedom dive every day
Trust me when I tell you that you won't. It's harder than it looks.
it's so hard my mind melts and becomes mush even by trying to comprehend how hard it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhvQ5qv_LYAqo wrote:
how do you wizards stream this fast and this long. can you upload videos of your fingers or something
give me the ability to stream 222~230bpm kb-only without getting tired and I'll pass freedom dive every day
Easy
how much does keigoclear-san's hand go for on e-bay?JappyBabes wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhvQ5qv_LY
Easy
One of the most important key to stream >200bpm is to keep your fingers relaxed. Proven by myself and Gatyaa, I was able to FC 4/5 part of rog-unlimitation with good accuracy (>95% I think before combobreak) on rubberdome keyboard while Gatyaa himself was able to reach >700 combo in Mad Machine on laptop keyboard.
Both of us didn't tense up our fingers on streams.
Both of us didn't tense up our fingers on streams.
And absolutely everyone can do this?
Everyone?
Even me?
Everyone?
Even me?
personally god-awful at streams, so I truly envy people who are good at them (I'm one of the aforementioned people who after two years of playing still can't stream 170). However, I think that accurate cursor movement will get you further than stream speed given the new accuracy>difficulty way of ranking.
Pretty sure everyone can. I'm actually not good at streams but I managed to be able to stream up to 220bpm (I was only able to stream around 180bpm-190bpm before). It depends on how one believes that they can actually push their own limit despite all the odds.
you have 12k playcount, no wonder you cant streamZamura wrote:
personally god-awful at streams, so I truly envy people who are good at them (I'm one of the aforementioned people who after two years of playing still can't stream 170). However, I think that accurate cursor movement will get you further than stream speed given the new accuracy>difficulty way of ranking.
Playing with your fingers flat(?) and not curled helps me stream, less movement involved. I've pretty much adapted to always play like this. I picked it up while DTing maps in taiko, it boosted my speed and accuracy quite a bit.
Thanks, I'll try that outMMzz wrote:
Playing with your fingers flat(?) and not curled helps me stream, less movement involved. I've pretty much adapted to always play like this. I picked it up while DTing maps in taiko, it boosted my speed and accuracy quite a bit.
Yes, I've seen on more than one occasion people mention the "magical" playcount number of 50-60k. I'm not really content to stay where I'm at skill-wise though, so I'm working towards it pretty actively these days, you'll notice my play history graph has increased significantly in the last two months (since we're checking profiles).silmarilen wrote:
you have 12k playcount, no wonder you cant streamZamura wrote:
personally god-awful at streams, so I truly envy people who are good at them (I'm one of the aforementioned people who after two years of playing still can't stream 170). However, I think that accurate cursor movement will get you further than stream speed given the new accuracy>difficulty way of ranking.
So Renard was not lying about the mindcontrol thing DDDDDDDDDDD:Frizz wrote:
Pretty sure everyone can. I'm actually not good at streams but I managed to be able to stream up to 220bpm (I was only able to stream around 180bpm-190bpm before). It depends on how one believes that they can actually push their own limit despite all the odds.
ive noticed that i get the most skill increase when i get a very high monthly playcount. in the past 4 months ive probably improved as much as the whole year before it.
i improve when god wills me to improve.
recently, god hasn't really been too nice.
recently, god hasn't really been too nice.
well. since god doesnt excist that means you will never get better
whatsilmarilen wrote:
well. since god doesnt excist that means you will never get better
are you saying cookiezi doesn't exist
I refuse to believe that. he's out there somewhere, watching us from above
fuck
Why would you want to rank either of these as more important? They are both necessary skills to be an Osu! player.
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
what if you suck at both so much that you can't determine which is worse?kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Is fine with me.MxG PhiLL wrote:
movement is more important, but streaming is more impressive
movement, with movement you can basically play any map hdhr, with streaming... fc freedom dive?
kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnezk_LIds like WTF am i doing...
Those who say streaming is harder to train, did someone even tried to train it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8wos4fQBc
If someone needs it http://puu.sh/1lDo8
Doing this at least once a day(well not every day but you got what im saying...) gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnezk_LIds like WTF am i doing...
Those who say streaming is harder to train, did someone even tried to train it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8wos4fQBc
If someone needs it http://puu.sh/1lDo8
Doing this at least once a day(well not every day but you got what im saying...) gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
ahahahhahahah no.LoGo wrote:
Doing this at least once a day gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
ahahahhahahah yes.Liutprando wrote:
ahahahhahahah no.LoGo wrote:
Doing this at least once a day gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
That makes both equally important. Go figure.Tanzklaue wrote:
what if you suck at both so much that you can't determine which is worse?kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Improve? You have the stamina of a horse, what do you wanna improve at lolthelewa wrote:
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
speed
cirno-_old
Training on Shinsekai is great and all, but reading maps correctly is what will get you to pass stuff. There are some tricky 130BPM w/ 8 AR maps that I still can't FC. But there are plenty of 150BPM-160BPM maps I can FC my first try. Training like that will help you pass something like Banned Forever. But will it help with AR10? Will it help with jump maps like Rainbow Dash Likes Girls? Well maybe if it has sudden fast streams.
I guess it depends on what the person wants to get good at. There might be some guy who does nothing but streams just so he can one day stream 300+ BPM.
I guess it depends on what the person wants to get good at. There might be some guy who does nothing but streams just so he can one day stream 300+ BPM.
When i read this i was confused because it's just impossible but then i checked your profile... You are playing massive amount of normals or really short insanes and by looking here What do you expect? There's no game where playing casually will lead to insane skill...Liutprando wrote:
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Well you have extreme accuracy + you can press ~220+(i believe that's the point when your speed increases really slow, well at least for me D:)thelewa wrote:
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
Question i have, those who stream 250+ kb only, don't you get pain after some time? D:(if i stream around that speed, hour or two is maximum without finger pain(bone/or whatever is causing pain)
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
It's impossible what ? To play the stream maps all days ? Just spectate me whenever you want.LoGo wrote:
When i read this i was confused because it's just impossible but then i checked your profile... You are playing massive amount of normals or really short insanes and by looking here What do you expect? There's no game where playing casually will lead to insane skill...Liutprando wrote:
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Even though like you mentioned i have ( i'll have) to play less in the next months
Learning to do long stream it's not that easy like you were trying to say ( too bad for me
) i mean , look at Silvia and White Wolf , they're considerated top players and play since years but yet they suck at long stream 
No, i meant that it's impossible that you didn't get decent stamina playing like that. White Wolf had good high speed and stamina.(look at most stream maps i don't see him only on FD but i don't quite remember was he even playing so active that time + to actually play FD(for good result) you need day when you actually feel like you can do it. And he is on mad machine with good accuracy...Liutprando wrote:
It's impossible what ? To play the stream maps all days ? Just spectate me whenever you want.
Even though like you mentioned i have ( i'll have) to play less in the next months
Learning to do long stream it's not that easy like you were trying to say ( too bad for me
About Silvia i never saw him actually playing long stream maps, well at least more than 1 time in a week/month... But he can do decent speed look at rog-unlimitation.
lolGoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Nothing is more important than your PC. You can have all the best skills in osu! but that won't be good enough if you're just using crappy old PCs.
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming abilityGoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
I'm right handed, and I hold my pen with my right hand. And I suck.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
Same here. Only after like 4 hours straight of playing can I even keyboard stream over 180 bpm for 50+ notes, and that's still pushing it. But bpms like 155-160ish that I can actually keep up with, I can do forever.winber1 wrote:
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
My speed when I first started playing was probably capped at 160, and now it's 180 :S guess it just takes a long time.
Good aim? Nice joke D: If i had good aim then i would be #1 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/124321 few months ago...GoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Adding HD helps on accuracy http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/482276 but then i can't do those pentagons at the start :/( even without HD i do them rarely)
Well i played with DT ~80% of my play count and speed just came naturally.winber1 wrote:
I'm right handed, and I hold my pen with my right hand. And I suck.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
I can single tap a lot faster with my right hand(by straining it around elbow but i can't get same speed with left hand) and that's pretty confusing considering i got 2 injuries on my palm joint, first when i was kid, second 2 years ago.silmarilen wrote:
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming ability
But i ended whining about lefthanded thing for a while now( i guess i never would whine about it if there wouldn't be one friend who just by playing 15min with tablet got better aim than i in one month D:)
Dude learn to quote. I didn't say that LOL
0.0 lol, i was writing quote by myself(just to not make quote of quote and so on...) so i guess messed up nicknames D:winber1 wrote:
Dude learn to quote. I didn't say that LOL
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.oLoGo wrote:
Good aim? Nice joke D: If i had good aim then i would be #1 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/124321 few months ago...GoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.
how do you do thatsilmarilen wrote:
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming ability
you're scary man
nononono, that sentence can be understood in different ways like:GoldenWolf wrote:
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.o
1. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( figuratively translating - i have good aim but there's no way that i have it)
2. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( literally translating - i can't have good aim because i am playing with right hand)
And in situation when you parody my post how can it be literal translation? o.o
English being my first language and my primary language, that sentences (disregarding a grammatical error) only means that... you don't have good aim... and that it is impossible for you to have good aim. I don't see how it could mean anything else.LoGo wrote:
nononono, that sentence can be understood in different ways like:GoldenWolf wrote:
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.o
1. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( figuratively translating - i have good aim but there's no way that i have it)
2. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( literally translating - i can't have good aim because i am playing with right hand)
And in situation when you parody my post how can it be literal translation? o.o
Also,
is completely contradictory. This sentence makes absolutely no sense.LoGo wrote:
i have good aim but there's no way that i have it
Now this thread is about how to speak English.
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