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Tanzklaue wrote:
(let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities")
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Which is more important? Cursor movement or Streaming
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Cursor movement or Streaming?
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you are korean. you will get godlike eventually.
on a more serious note: they are equally important, both being one third (let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities"), and the last one being accuracystuff.
on a more serious note: they are equally important, both being one third (let's change streaming into "overall clicking abilities"), and the last one being accuracystuff.
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
my aiming recently got upgraded from "horrible" to "decent".winber1 wrote:
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
yay, I can hope again.
Movement hard thothelewa wrote:
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
There are people that can learn how to stream properly and there are people that can naturally stream better than top rank players.Hika wrote:
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
I'm really only talking about stream speeds because while people that have played for years could only stream say 240bpm, people that could have just joined could stream 280bpm, whereas cursor movement is just ALL practice/training.
no, there are people who learn to stream, people who just spam and claim that they can stream, people who think clicking 5 1/4 notes means to stream the given BPM, people who use macros, and maybe >1% people who are just natural streaming talents (hello jesus).buny wrote:
There are people that can learn how to stream properly and there are people that can naturally stream better than top rank players.Hika wrote:
You can easily learn how to stream properly. It's not a natural skill. I started learning how to stream under 175 BPM & realized that it wasn't too bad.
Also, movement is crucial to play the game in my personal opinion since not all the maps in the game have streams.
Well all we're doing is just comparing opinions here so there isn't really a right answer to it.Tanzklaue wrote:
no, there are people who learn to stream
Those are the people who probably just started playing osu
people who just spam and claim that they can stream
in the end that's what streaming is, except in rhythm
people who think clicking 5 1/4 notes means to stream the given BPM
what does that have to do with anything?
people who use macros
same as above
maybe >1% people who are just natural streaming talents (hello jesus).
jesse also worked hard to get to where he is now
Aim is harder and more important, if you miss then your play is no good, if you get somewhat bad acc@streams but still don't miss then your play is good.
Then again some streams are hard because of spacing.
Streaming CAN BE a natural talent, some people just have a better sense of rhythm/stronger fingers. Same can happen with aim though but I don't think it's that notorious.
Then again some streams are hard because of spacing.
Streaming CAN BE a natural talent, some people just have a better sense of rhythm/stronger fingers. Same can happen with aim though but I don't think it's that notorious.
Ok. Apparently the different ideas of skill development are like religions on here..
Totally bullshit lol... everything is training unless you have some kind of bone/muscles/hands disorder lolthelewa wrote:
Bullshit.buny wrote:
Movement requires more training whereas streaming is mostly just natural skill.
Oh yeah, about stream speed. Just start working out or something, it's all about muscles. Nothing else, really.
"mostly just natural skill"
Also better clicking abilities is meaningless if you can't support it with cursor movement, so basically this
Also better clicking abilities is meaningless if you can't support it with cursor movement, so basically this
winber1 wrote:
If you have movement accuracy, you can easily learn to stream, at a at least semi-decent speed. If you can stream with godlike speed and have no movement accuracy, you can't do shit.
Mashing your keyboard works best there, there's no real workout to those few muscles in your forearm you need for streaming.thelewa wrote:
Oh yeah, about stream speed. Just start working out or something, it's all about muscles. Nothing else, really.
Personally I think cursor movement is the most important. But if you ask "which is more important to train first?" then I'll say streaming, or I prefer to say accuracy, is the most important. It'll help you in the long run.
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
what this guys said.silmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
I lack streaming speed so bad but i'm decent in movements
So i've always looked jelly the faster stramers 
But i do think they are equally important.
You need aim for EVERY map whilst streaming only applies to some.
Either way I think they're both important. I find aim is harder to improve. Honestly there's no right answer, different people have different strengths.
Either way I think they're both important. I find aim is harder to improve. Honestly there's no right answer, different people have different strengths.
You can always practice songs with both jumps and spaced streams if you want to improve at both simultaneously.
What kind of streaming we're talking about here by the way. Endurance, speed, or accuracy?
Each of them has different priority for me.
Each of them has different priority for me.
but i suck at streamingsilmarilen wrote:
people who are good at streaming will say movement is more important and people who are good at movement say streaming is more important
since i am good at movement (compared to streaming) i will say streaming is more important
*looks at poll results* Yeah no seriously guys what
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Only if you can't stream 222bpm which isn't even what makes freedom dive hard in the first placeJappyBabes wrote:
so the only reason you can pass freedom dive whereas I can't is because you had massive luck with your birth. man I am unlucky or whatbuny wrote:
"mostly just natural skill"
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.Aqo wrote:
*looks at poll results* Yeah no seriously guys what
Streaming/everything related to clicking on buttons is WAAAAAAY more important in this game than jumps. Being good at jumps won't get you anywhere. Jumps in this game are frigging free anyway... FCing Atama/Big Black/Sousei with relax is as easy as a walk in the park (which is almost as easy as CTB!). clicking on circles fast or with good accuracy is the real thing that takes a ton of experience and training. There is no natural skill in this. Gotta practice like mad
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
ok. Both streaming and jumps are hard, but streaming is harder to train.
There is a thing called physical limitation.
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.darkmiz wrote:
buny wrote:
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
physicall limitation is completly different for every human. look at bodystatures, some people are to small to reach for something in 2 meter height.Pacemaker wrote:
Who's that lmfao? Physical limitation and development applies for every human equally, so that's obviously complete bullcrap.
I agree but disagree with your first statement, unless you're treating 3/5 stack notes as streams.darkmiz wrote:
Being good at streams will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous jumps.buny wrote:
Being good at jumps will help you pass nearly every map without some ridiculous stream.
ok. Both streaming and jumps are hard, but streaming is harder to train.
There is a thing called physical limitation.
Even after years of playing, some people cannot stream past bpm 180.
Jumps? Just buy a tablet and instant pro.