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[Approval, Standard + Taiko] SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
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Topic Starter
Are you like, one of my stalkers or something?Stefan wrote:
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So like, is Taiko Lite supposed to be a muzukashii? Because it seemingly doesn't feel like one. Too many triples where there shouldn't be and yeah... just a tad bit too hard for a muzu. I guess it's okay though since it's not initially required for your rank and it doesn't have to have a muzu... at least you went ahead and added one 
Incoming recheck to be edited in this placeholder.
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Topic Starter
Taiko Lite is and never was intended to be a Muzukashii since this song simply doesn't fit a Muzukashii or other way around (that's my opinion as I find the atmosphere of a song very important when mapping); it's meant to be a way easier Taiko though still hard (due to the BPM).
As requested by Jenny, I'm coming for a Taiko recheck ~
Let's go :3
Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions / thoughts only. Change only if you want to
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[Taiko EX-Tinction]
Interesting diff name :3 ~
Just asking if there's a special purpose for using x0.99 in most parts, instead of x1 ~
01:27:627 ( 115, 123 ) - I'm not sure why only these 2 notes have finishes included. By referring to this finish pattern, you may also want to add finishes at ( 99, 107, 131, 140, 148, 156 ) ?
02:11:924 ( 1 ) - I guess you're trying to make this note x0.96 to connect sections of x0.92 & x0.99 . But actually the current timing point is 02:11:925 rather than :924, making it useless ( Current note is still in x0.92 ). Maybe you should fix that ~
02:11:924 ( 4th kiai ) - Diff spread is way too big when compared with previous parts, esp 77~109 & 125~134, where the hitsounds changes are too complex to be hit correctly. I know the streams are fitting the music, so I'm not forcing you to fix.
02:27:042 ( 175 ~ 216, 1 ) - Similar to above. 1/3 hitsounds patterns could be too complex ~
Well, hitsounds & patterns are nicely-used
But the green combo parts at 4th kiai are too hard ;w;
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[Taiko Oni]
Same for the above diff, why x0.99 but not x1 ?
00:27:394 ( 146, 147 ) - Move these 2 notes 1/2 forward so that the patterns become K D K and fit ( 135 ~ 137 ) ?
02:25:752 ( 120 ~ 128 ) - imo it's hard to understand the beat when playing. It could be better to use simpler beats
02:27:042 ( Red combo parts ) - Diff spread. I guess you know what I mean. Again I'm not forcing you to change because that fits the music.
Well, at least this is playable for me www
Still, that part is still too difficult imo
Others seem fine :3
Star and good luck ~
Let's go :3
Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions / thoughts only. Change only if you want to
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[Taiko EX-Tinction]
Interesting diff name :3 ~
Just asking if there's a special purpose for using x0.99 in most parts, instead of x1 ~
01:27:627 ( 115, 123 ) - I'm not sure why only these 2 notes have finishes included. By referring to this finish pattern, you may also want to add finishes at ( 99, 107, 131, 140, 148, 156 ) ?
02:11:924 ( 1 ) - I guess you're trying to make this note x0.96 to connect sections of x0.92 & x0.99 . But actually the current timing point is 02:11:925 rather than :924, making it useless ( Current note is still in x0.92 ). Maybe you should fix that ~
02:11:924 ( 4th kiai ) - Diff spread is way too big when compared with previous parts, esp 77~109 & 125~134, where the hitsounds changes are too complex to be hit correctly. I know the streams are fitting the music, so I'm not forcing you to fix.
02:27:042 ( 175 ~ 216, 1 ) - Similar to above. 1/3 hitsounds patterns could be too complex ~
Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~
00:06:300 ( 19 ) - Red note ? ( For consistency. You used d in 00:02:550 ( 17, 34 )
00:13:693 ( 18, 1 ) - Both red notes ? ( You can notice that ( 18, 19, 1, 2, 3 ) are all blue notes, which doesn't really match the significant drum sounds in the music. I suggest changing some to d to fit the drums ~ )
00:40:987 ( 31 ) - Red note ? ( The vocal here is lower than 30 & 32. Also the ratio of blue notes in this small part is almost 100%, reducing the hitsound effects in the song. PM me if you don't understand this )
01:35:245 ( 26, 27 ) - Both red notes ? ( Similar reasons to above. This fits the vocal more & prevents lots of blue notes in one part, which reduces hitsound effects )
02:03:838 ( 46 ~ 48 ) - o o O ? ( To create variations on hitsound patterns & avoid repeating with ( 49 ~ 51 ) )
00:06:300 ( 19 ) - Red note ? ( For consistency. You used d in 00:02:550 ( 17, 34 )
00:13:693 ( 18, 1 ) - Both red notes ? ( You can notice that ( 18, 19, 1, 2, 3 ) are all blue notes, which doesn't really match the significant drum sounds in the music. I suggest changing some to d to fit the drums ~ )
00:40:987 ( 31 ) - Red note ? ( The vocal here is lower than 30 & 32. Also the ratio of blue notes in this small part is almost 100%, reducing the hitsound effects in the song. PM me if you don't understand this )
01:35:245 ( 26, 27 ) - Both red notes ? ( Similar reasons to above. This fits the vocal more & prevents lots of blue notes in one part, which reduces hitsound effects )
02:03:838 ( 46 ~ 48 ) - o o O ? ( To create variations on hitsound patterns & avoid repeating with ( 49 ~ 51 ) )
Well, hitsounds & patterns are nicely-used
But the green combo parts at 4th kiai are too hard ;w;
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[Taiko Oni]
Same for the above diff, why x0.99 but not x1 ?
00:27:394 ( 146, 147 ) - Move these 2 notes 1/2 forward so that the patterns become K D K and fit ( 135 ~ 137 ) ?
02:25:752 ( 120 ~ 128 ) - imo it's hard to understand the beat when playing. It could be better to use simpler beats
02:27:042 ( Red combo parts ) - Diff spread. I guess you know what I mean. Again I'm not forcing you to change because that fits the music.
Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~
00:13:928 ( 70 ) - Red note ? ( There is a drum sound here, which means d fits better )
02:04:424 ( 52 ) - Remove finish ? ( A sudden o O O pattern doesn't fit the previous o o O patterns )
02:47:667 ( 16 ) - Red note ? ( Vocal is significantly lower here )
00:13:928 ( 70 ) - Red note ? ( There is a drum sound here, which means d fits better )
02:04:424 ( 52 ) - Remove finish ? ( A sudden o O O pattern doesn't fit the previous o o O patterns )
02:47:667 ( 16 ) - Red note ? ( Vocal is significantly lower here )
Well, at least this is playable for me www
Still, that part is still too difficult imo
Others seem fine :3
Star and good luck ~
Topic Starter
I found 1.4x overall just a little-little bit too much as it had some weird effect on me with the stacking (might just be me but the 0.99x didn't really bug anyone and it feels better for me for which reason soever, so I will likely keep that o.o).
Applied suggestions and tried to make 1/3 parts a bit more clear~
Applied suggestions and tried to make 1/3 parts a bit more clear~
Topic Starter
I do not feel like fucking around on this anymore, come at me, seriously, where is this speedranking staff that goes for easyshit and unintuitive TV size bullfuck all the time?
So, where are you people that 'mod at least 50% based on SP', ha?
Also, as for this update: Fixed an overlap between two sliders, nothing major.
The 'Taiko Muzukashii' is the very first version of Taiko EX-Tinction and hard as fuck, don't even try it! - It's just in here on a temporal basis for people to download, DO NOT MOD IT, I WILL REMOVE IT LATER ON!
So, where are you people that 'mod at least 50% based on SP', ha?
Also, as for this update: Fixed an overlap between two sliders, nothing major.
The 'Taiko Muzukashii' is the very first version of Taiko EX-Tinction and hard as fuck, don't even try it! - It's just in here on a temporal basis for people to download, DO NOT MOD IT, I WILL REMOVE IT LATER ON!
Topic Starter
Have my last star, map.
Back from GamesCom, let's get this done!
Back from GamesCom, let's get this done!
Jenny wrote:
Have my last star, map.
Back from GamesCom, let's get this done!
Gogo Jenny \:D/
I like the song a lot~ hope you get it ranked soon
Rank dat shet guise
>6 maps higher on list..
Ich soll jetzt auch noch trap maps modden? o,o jetzt gehts los..
im endeffekt find ich sowieso nix und du würdest eh nix übernehmen <3 aber es is ja nur eine diff, also tu ichs mir mal an
btw. ich hab die hälfte der map geschafft (so badass)
nice .osb~
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> mich würde interessieren wie du die auf hidden passen willst, vlt. denkst du ja über AR10 nach.. so many stupid stacking sheeet
> kiai sections total overused, fass die am besten zusammen, ich glaub auch das ich nicht der erste bin der dir das sagt..
> teilweise denk ich das hellbraun ist dem bg zu ähnlich... aber du magst ja blending combocolours >_>
>Drain viel zu hoch du nudel mach das runter oder ich hau dich du trap ignore this
00:21:896 (3) - der Slider passt nich, mach n circle draus
00:37:472 - mach den circle weg, starte den slider hier und pass danach das spacing an, passt besser.
00:52:238 (4) - 1tinygrids nach rechts, passt dann besser zum slider
01:02:491 - add note?
01:18:135 (4) - mach den circle weg und dafür nen zusätzlichen reverse arrow an 01:17:785 (3) - , der circle da unten fühlt sich weird an..
02:40:987 - delete note
o,o nice map, vlt. suchst du dir lieber leute die die map auch passen, dann ist das modding vlt. auch besser ^__^
weiter so trap!
Ich soll jetzt auch noch trap maps modden? o,o jetzt gehts los..
im endeffekt find ich sowieso nix und du würdest eh nix übernehmen <3 aber es is ja nur eine diff, also tu ichs mir mal an
btw. ich hab die hälfte der map geschafft (so badass)
nice .osb~
[Combustion]
> mich würde interessieren wie du die auf hidden passen willst, vlt. denkst du ja über AR10 nach.. so many stupid stacking sheeet
> kiai sections total overused, fass die am besten zusammen, ich glaub auch das ich nicht der erste bin der dir das sagt..
> teilweise denk ich das hellbraun ist dem bg zu ähnlich... aber du magst ja blending combocolours >_>
>
00:21:896 (3) - der Slider passt nich, mach n circle draus
00:37:472 - mach den circle weg, starte den slider hier und pass danach das spacing an, passt besser.
00:52:238 (4) - 1tinygrids nach rechts, passt dann besser zum slider
01:02:491 - add note?
01:18:135 (4) - mach den circle weg und dafür nen zusätzlichen reverse arrow an 01:17:785 (3) - , der circle da unten fühlt sich weird an..
02:40:987 - delete note
o,o nice map, vlt. suchst du dir lieber leute die die map auch passen, dann ist das modding vlt. auch besser ^__^
weiter so trap!
Topic Starter
Colourful stuff.
thanks for your SP mod, keep going you guyseducing monster~<3Dick wrote:
>6 maps higher on list..
Ich soll jetzt auch noch trap maps modden? o,o jetzt gehts los..
im endeffekt find ich sowieso nix und du würdest eh nix übernehmen <3 aber es is ja nur eine diff, also tu ichs mir mal an
btw. ich hab die hälfte der map geschafft (so badass)
nice .osb~
[Combustion]
> mich würde interessieren wie du die auf hidden passen willst, vlt. denkst du ja über AR10 nach.. so many stupid stacking sheeet - AR10 no wai, 9.2 vlt. aber das geht ja nich; und ich map ja nicht für modspieler, soll ja kein freescore sein sondern man soll für die 6% auch was tun~ <3
> kiai sections total overused, fass die am besten zusammen, ich glaub auch das ich nicht der erste bin der dir das sagt.. - nö passt so, findet auch niemand wirklich störend und passt atmosphärisch besser~
> teilweise denk ich das hellbraun ist dem bg zu ähnlich... aber du magst ja blending combocolours >_> - hab's mal in nen ockerton geändert
>Drain viel zu hoch du nudel mach das runter oder ich hau dich du trapignore this - since settings are fine, I would have denied that anyways ^-^
00:21:896 (3) - der Slider passt nich, mach n circle draus - find ich nich um ehrlich zu sein, die gitarre hat da zwei zusammenhängende töne, ergo scheint mir der slider die beste möglichkeit zu sein
00:37:472 - mach den circle weg, starte den slider hier und pass danach das spacing an, passt besser. - irgendwie mag ich das so auch lieber, die hitsounds fügen sich so besser in den song rein; mag an mir liegen aber es klingt nunmal einfach wesentlich geiler und von den testern hats auch keine beschwerden gegeben
00:52:238 (4) - 1tinygrids nach rechts, passt dann besser zum slider - mkay, adjusted, sollte nun halbwegs zentriert sein zwischen ende 2 und anfang 3 sein
01:02:491 - add note? - mkay, adjusted following notes aswell
01:18:135 (4) - mach den circle weg und dafür nen zusätzlichen reverse arrow an 01:17:785 (3) - , der circle da unten fühlt sich weird an.. - der slider liegt noch auf der gitarre, der circle is wiederum auf die BGM, also als übergang in die pause, muss also auch nen neues objekt sein
02:40:987 - delete note - sounds and plays way better like this, denied o3o
o,o nice map, vlt. suchst du dir lieber leute die die map auch passen, dann ist das modding vlt. auch besser ^__^ - die modden dann nur nich oder haben nichts dran auszusetzen, beispiele JAKA, Rucker, rrttyui etc. :/
weiter so trap!
dear christ the amount of jenny stars this map has
We had some IRC-mod here.
Both maps seem better now. Especially Oni.
log
18:49 Jenny: : bin jetzt mal durch solche stellen gegangen
18:49 Jenny: : magst bei der oni wegen den patterns nochma gucken?
18:49 OnosakiHito: : Ja gut.
18:51 OnosakiHito: : 00:16:388 (92,93,94,95,96) - d kkd d - ist etwas easier zu spielen als d ddk d aufgrund der pattern folge.
18:51 Jenny: : k
18:52 OnosakiHito: : 00:18:439 (107) - das hier zu löschen ist denke ich eine bessere option. Sehr schwer k kdd d zu spielen, aber ein richtige sound ist da auch nicht
18:52 OnosakiHito: : dafür.
18:52 Jenny: : joa passt
18:53 OnosakiHito: : 00:27:160 (144,145,146) - ansich ist das hier ja ein K K K oder D D D
18:54 OnosakiHito: : da es also ein K D K, änder es lieber zu D K D da ein kkk stream davor ist.
18:54 Jenny: : k
18:54 OnosakiHito: : müsste man doppelt spielen bei der hohehn bpm.
18:54 OnosakiHito: : 00:29:972 (147,148,149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156,157) - Das müsste okay sein. Hier hat man immer hin Zeit sich auf das k kdd
18:54 OnosakiHito: : vorzubereiten.
18:57 OnosakiHito: : 00:42:862 - d d kkk d kkk d <- versuch das hier mal? Spielt sich bequemer und passt auch zum vocal.
18:58 Jenny: : joa geht
18:58 OnosakiHito: : Du musst nicht alles ändern wenn du nicht willst.
18:58 Jenny: : nedas passt scho bisher
18:58 Jenny: : wenn ich etwas unerträglich scheisse finde sag ich das schon
18:58 Jenny: : xD
18:59 OnosakiHito: : 00:49:190 (94,95,96,97) - k kkk D ist günstiger zum spielen als k kdd K
18:59 OnosakiHito: : alles klar
18:59 Jenny: : k kkd K meinst du
19:00 Jenny: : das gefällt mir so wiederum gut
19:00 OnosakiHito: : k kkk D mein ich.
19:00 OnosakiHito: : kannst auch k kkd K wenn du willst.
19:00 Jenny: : das aktuelle is k kkd K
19:00 OnosakiHito: : okay dann mach es nicht.
19:00 OnosakiHito: : xDD
19:00 Jenny: : durrr
19:00 OnosakiHito: : ach so stimmt, hatte kdd gesagt.
19:02 Jenny: : mh... k
19:02 Jenny: : jetzt aber erstmal slih zugucken
19:02 Jenny: : *kannst ja weiter posten
19:02 OnosakiHito: : 01:09:112 (49) - das hier lieber d. spielt sich echt schrecklich als kdk k K
19:02 OnosakiHito: : besser kdk d K
19:02 Jenny: : kdk k K auf der BPM böse
19:02 Jenny: : desu
19:03 OnosakiHito: : 01:36:417 (33) - das hier ist nur optional. Vll. lieber mal D nehmen als K, wegen ...k K
19:06 Jenny: : ^hab da die kleine note vorm finish auf d geändert, is besser als das K zum D zu machen find ich
19:07 OnosakiHito: : 01:42:042 - ddd ddk d k d k d eventuell? Da bin ich echt am grübeln.
19:07 OnosakiHito: : Auch gute idee.
19:08 OnosakiHito: : 01:52:999 (68) - ddk ist besser hier. Mag zwar ein guter versuch zur abweckslung sein oder eventuel song following, aber dkk ist der tot hier.
19:08 Jenny: : kdd dkk dkd KdK ? \:D/
19:08 OnosakiHito: : wo?
19:09 OnosakiHito: : ach so da am ende
19:09 Jenny: : 01:52:999 (68) - die kommt weg 01:53:174 (70) - das wird zum kat
19:09 OnosakiHito: : gut
19:09 Jenny: : 01:53:643 (73) - auch zu kat
19:09 OnosakiHito: : 01:57:042 - in diesem part alles was k K oder d D ist wechseln bitte.
19:10 OnosakiHito: : 02:10:811 (98) - weg hier mit
19:11 OnosakiHito: : 02:10:635 (96) - ^
19:11 OnosakiHito: : 02:10:987 (99) - ^
19:11 OnosakiHito: : hört sich einfach nicht gut an.
19:11 OnosakiHito: : lol guitar part ganz gepasst
19:12 Jenny: : ach komm es is nur die oni \:D/
19:13 OnosakiHito: : 02:26:221 (124,125,126,127) - das sollte an diese stelle gesnapped werden
19:13 OnosakiHito: : das erste so wie dieser vorschlag passen beide niciht so ganz gut rein
19:13 OnosakiHito: : also lieber auf playabilty aufpassen und zurück schieben.
19:14 OnosakiHito: : 02:34:542 (33) - selbe vie vorhin.
19:14 Jenny: : wo vorhin? xD
19:14 OnosakiHito: : guck es dir an und du weißt es.
19:14 OnosakiHito: : hast es doch zu d K gemacht vorher
19:14 OnosakiHito: : lol
19:15 OnosakiHito: : 02:40:167 (83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,1) - selbiges problem das du durch ddk ddk kdk oder so geändert hast
19:15 OnosakiHito: : 02:45:323 (25) - d
19:15 OnosakiHito: : 02:45:674 (29) - d
19:16 OnosakiHito: : aufgrund der spielbarkeit k kdk k K no
19:16 OnosakiHito: : 02:51:885 (49,50,51) - der Tot ist da.
19:16 OnosakiHito: : 02:54:698 (14,15,16) - Oh nein nein. Tot
19:17 Jenny: : *Tod
19:17 OnosakiHito: : 02:58:799 (53) - d, wie vorhin.
19:17 Jenny: : was is mit dem tod? :x
19:17 OnosakiHito: : Naja wie shcon vorhin gesagt, das geht nicht. Ist echt mies zu spielen.
19:18 OnosakiHito: : dkk <- kommt so dermaßen selten vor in den modus taiko weil der einfach blöd zu spielen ist.
19:18 OnosakiHito: : erst recht in high BPM's. haha
19:18 Jenny: : hab das 1. zu ddk geändert
19:18 Jenny: : das 2. zu dkd
19:18 OnosakiHito: : 03:02:667 (79) - kann man drüber nachdenken. k k k k K ist diesmal ein andere fall.
19:18 OnosakiHito: : Kannst es ändern oder so lassen.
19:18 OnosakiHito: : ok
19:19 OnosakiHito: : 03:06:417 (5) - selbiger, vll lieber D
19:19 OnosakiHito: : selbige*
19:19 OnosakiHito: : das ist alles.
19:19 Jenny: : update~
19:19 OnosakiHito: : ok~
19:19 OnosakiHito: : Sieht aber dieses mal wirklich besser.
19:19 OnosakiHito: : Auch die schwerer.
19:21 Jenny: : forum post?
19:21 OnosakiHito: : ok
Both maps seem better now. Especially Oni.
[Combustion]
01:26:690 - important beat in the song is missing a corresponding beat in your map here.
01:29:502 - here as well, sliderticks do not count... !
02:20:832 (9) - repeat isn't visible
taikos look good
good luck
oh wait
remove "~" in tags and change armpits to armpit since i see only 1
01:26:690 - important beat in the song is missing a corresponding beat in your map here.
01:29:502 - here as well, sliderticks do not count... !
02:20:832 (9) - repeat isn't visible
taikos look good
good luck
oh wait
remove "~" in tags and change armpits to armpit since i see only 1
Topic Starter
Fixed stuff as stated IRC~
I'm a bit sad about changing the 'armpits' tag to singular form but I guess that's neccesary to not sadden people who look for two of them
I'm a bit sad about changing the 'armpits' tag to singular form but I guess that's neccesary to not sadden people who look for two of them
FINALLY BUBBLED!!(SHOUTING OUT
GO JENNY!
GO JENNY!
Go armpit!
nice
gl
gl
Termination
I see no problems
Bubble #2 then
Bubble #2 then
Go Go Jenny \:D/
Ohh, sexy one.
Triples in a map that technically plays as a standard 2key map?
1/4 in a 256 bpm map?
Generally awkward flow with constant overlaps of sliders and hidden 1/2- and not to mention unintuitive return sliders
hmmm
If you don't see anything wrong with this, please stop mapping.
Sincerely kriers
1/4 in a 256 bpm map?
Generally awkward flow with constant overlaps of sliders and hidden 1/2- and not to mention unintuitive return sliders
hmmm
If you don't see anything wrong with this, please stop mapping.
Sincerely kriers
Topic Starter
Thanks for your feedback, I will consider your opinion in maps that are meant to be played by people like you while this one clearly isn't.
Note: I can not click this myself but I still deem it fitting without being able to 'pass/play' it - why? Because not being able to simply click something doesn't mean it is bad or unplayable, I am physically unable to do so, so what is the "fault of the map/-per" in there?
If you want more calm maps or easy FCs, go for other maps and not 256BPM metal - if you disagree with 1/4 notes in maps, well that is your problem, these compliment with the music and I won't remove them because of this; this is how I map this song and not how I place 1/2s on a song where they don't suit its atmosphere to the fullest just for the sake of your people's full combo.
I don't give a shit about fc-ability but fittingness of the map to the song - this is not meant to be easily done and people should learn to see map, song and everything related as union but just to rate one thing 10 and forget about the rest without giving a shit on what they do.
In other words: I don't really care, this is meant to be played by those people who appreciate it, which are mostly the people I am asking for tests of this and not the general mass, as it is visible by BPM, Approval and my name in the creator's place.
Yes, I am an asshole, if you want to put it this way and I won't stop mapping for anyone who can't even get along with what they are talking about; this is my opinion and you are free to disagree and differ with/from it.
Note: I can not click this myself but I still deem it fitting without being able to 'pass/play' it - why? Because not being able to simply click something doesn't mean it is bad or unplayable, I am physically unable to do so, so what is the "fault of the map/-per" in there?
If you want more calm maps or easy FCs, go for other maps and not 256BPM metal - if you disagree with 1/4 notes in maps, well that is your problem, these compliment with the music and I won't remove them because of this; this is how I map this song and not how I place 1/2s on a song where they don't suit its atmosphere to the fullest just for the sake of your people's full combo.
I don't give a shit about fc-ability but fittingness of the map to the song - this is not meant to be easily done and people should learn to see map, song and everything related as union but just to rate one thing 10 and forget about the rest without giving a shit on what they do.
In other words: I don't really care, this is meant to be played by those people who appreciate it, which are mostly the people I am asking for tests of this and not the general mass, as it is visible by BPM, Approval and my name in the creator's place.
Yes, I am an asshole, if you want to put it this way and I won't stop mapping for anyone who can't even get along with what they are talking about; this is my opinion and you are free to disagree and differ with/from it.
well I most certainly find myself a player that should be able to play it, and that's fine until a certain streamy partJenny wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, I will consider your opinion in maps that are meant to be played by people like you while this one clearly isn't
Played without warmup. This is like playing a tutuhaha/val0108 map that suddenly decided to go mad machine.
Topic Starter
There is nothing to equal the song better than streams there - I prefer sticking to the song's atmosphere (and "huge" difficulty spreads should be fine when it comes to "INSANE"/Approval maps as long as they fit the song, which this one does) over shoving FCs in people's faces where it is inappropriate, which is the case in here.
The song and guitar go nuts, so does the map, even though not nearly as much as before.
Hoping the point is made.
The song and guitar go nuts, so does the map, even though not nearly as much as before.
Hoping the point is made.
The stream part can easily be remapped using quick return sliders and/or slider-streams combined with bursts of 5 notes. There are tons of ways to make an initially difficult guitar solo into something achievable and fun and still challenging, without breaking the flow of the map.Jenny wrote:
There is nothing to equal the song better than streams there - I prefer sticking to the song's atmosphere (and "huge" difficulty spreads should be fine when it comes to "INSANE"/Approval maps as long as they fit the song, which this one does) over shoving FCs in people's faces where it is inappropriate, which is the case in here.
The song and guitar go nuts, so does the map, even though not nearly as much as before.
Hoping the point is made.
When/if this gets approved, you will see a huge spike on failed right there when the stream part begins, and that's hardly positive. Also considering how far in it is, doesn't really help.
Uhmm I think you are both right up to a point. On the one hand I completely understeand what Jenny says about the song being that way. The song suddenly goes nuts and those streams fit perfectly.
But on the other hand.. kriers has a point there. Those streams are just too much, as kriers said:
Streams are very fun but they are a bit overused at that part~~ what about leaving some as they are and putting some sliders in some of them?
But on the other hand.. kriers has a point there. Those streams are just too much, as kriers said:
This is 100% true. Achievable, fun and still challenging, that's what it should be like. Now it's just challenging and not fun because I can't actually enjoy it because it's too damn hard, sure, I can pass it but not always, and I don't really have a lot of fun with it.kriers wrote:
There are tons of ways to make an initially difficult guitar solo into something achievable and fun and still challenging, without breaking the flow of the map.
Streams are very fun but they are a bit overused at that part~~ what about leaving some as they are and putting some sliders in some of them?
I don't see what's wrong.
So do you both think a map 's sperad should be completely consistant?
And why don't try 0108/tutuhaha plus mad machine style?
So do you both think a map 's sperad should be completely consistant?
And why don't try 0108/tutuhaha plus mad machine style?
Because it's ridiculous and plays bad.nold_1702 wrote:
I don't see what's wrong.
So do you both think a map 's sperad should be completely consistant?
And why don't try 0108/tutuhaha plus mad machine style?
I've seen some of your maps, and they all have the same issue. You too, would benefit from keeping your maps sane.
If many mappers map like that,so that's whose problem?
Your sense=Jump many should not have long stream
Your sense=Jump many should not have long stream
Topic Starter
get a room or smth
I didn't say something was wrong D: I mean both Jenny and kriers are right imo~
Leaving the notice for next BAT:
This mapset will be approved even though the rules have changed, because this mapset was already bubbled when the change took action.
Thanks.
This mapset will be approved even though the rules have changed, because this mapset was already bubbled when the change took action.
Thanks.
Oh hi. Mostly suggestions, but consider them, I believe they are good.
[Combustion]
*00:27:511 (2) - Okay, I can't figure out why you want it this quiet. It always makes me think when I play this map. How about leaving the volume alone, and swapping to a soft default set for this note only? Maybe a whistle too. Suddenly it makes more sense, atleast to me!
*01:02:199 (7) - Eh, well this isn't unrankable or anything, but for some reason I miss it every time, atleast when not thinking about the map. Whatever, nvm.
*01:17:785 (3) - To be frank, I think that having a new combo here instead of at 01:17:433 (1) makes much more sense, because here is the spot where a drastic change in the music occurs. I can see that your current combo follows the vocal, however the vocal is quite subtle there and this has a huge impact. Maybe change this?
*01:21:418 (1,2) - Yeah, new combo on that 2 instead of 1. You kinda did here what I asked you to do in above suggestion, however it is one note too early. Don't mind the big white tick, follow the music instead!
*01:25:285 (4) - New combo please.
*01:38:174 (9,1) - Ew. Please, change this. This spacing breaks the flow completely. I can see the reason behind it, but I don't think that's a good idea, it plays terrible and doesn't fit the music either.
*01:48:956 (6,7,1) - Hm, I don't like how this flows. If you can think of something better that's not entirely different, I would be really happy. You could, for example, reverse the slider 1 and do something with the next circle and slider, this way the flow wouldn't change so much in such a short period of time, and would feel much more pleasant to play.
*01:51:418 (1,2,3) - Spacing. Make it more even please.
*01:52:238 (5,6) - Also spacing here. Because you made the spacing uneven before, for a reason I can't find, this pattern is forced to have the same gimmick. Change please.
*01:54:582 (7,8,9) - This could use some re-location. First of all, well the spacing, it's not unrankable or terrible, but it could be better. Unlike the above, I find it more intuitive and less annoying to play. Second, judging by the patterns you use everywhere, they don't really "shadow" anything. For example, take a look at 01:53:761 (3). You didn't use it's starting or ending point for anything. Maybe move this slider and these 3 notes a little just so they actually create a pattern that you used almost everywhere?
*02:04:542 (1,2) - Hm, music tells me that if you reverse these 2, they follow it better (I mean, first the slider, then the circle). Try it and see! (you did this after this part and it sounded nicely, it confused me the first time like this cause I heard an unmapped drum hit where the slider goes over it)
*02:17:199 (3) - I have to ask you do change this a little. It's nearly completely hidden behind hitbursts. I am not content with approving this pattern, sorry. Something like thiscomes to mind.
*02:22:471 (11,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This spacing needs to get fixed. I am already against jumps in streams, but please, atleast keep the spacing readable. In the complete chaos of hitbursts, a person will have a really hard time noticing wtf is going on here.
*02:23:293 (6,1) - This is the biggest reason why I am against those jumps in those streams. This spacing feels too big. Lowering it could cause reading problems. I suggest that you reduce all the jumps in these streams, at least a little bit, and then lower this a bit as well. I read what other people wrote in the thread, and for some part I have to agree that this spacing could use a change. Streams themselves are fine though.
*02:27:159 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ok, I have no idea what's going on here. I can see that you're trying to follow the melody, however I don't think this is possible to be mapped correctly, in a way you did it. Believe it or not, the drums are mostly 1/3 here, and this is what makes me go ?!?!? here. This is a very crude solution, but it works. Sadly, you lose some of the intensity, however I believe that such a spinner brings something new here, and that is a buildup. You had intensity without a buildup, now you have a buildup without much intensity, but this way you don't have people going wtf is going on here and it still makes sense and doesn't make it any less epic. This part of the song is freestyle and if you choose either to go with 1/3 or 1/2, both will sound wrong.
As we already discussed in the game, I have to disappear for a little while. Will check the taiko diffs later this week. Also, I spoke to Onosaki and he believes that the same issue I pointed out in standard (02:27:159) appears in taiko. Maybe you should focus on that part and probably make a spinner in all diffs, because it's quite problematic.
Overall a very nice map, was really fun to play. A bit silly in the stream part, the flow breaks, but I hope you consider some of my suggestions to fix that.
Popping for now.
[Combustion]
*00:27:511 (2) - Okay, I can't figure out why you want it this quiet. It always makes me think when I play this map. How about leaving the volume alone, and swapping to a soft default set for this note only? Maybe a whistle too. Suddenly it makes more sense, atleast to me!
*01:02:199 (7) - Eh, well this isn't unrankable or anything, but for some reason I miss it every time, atleast when not thinking about the map. Whatever, nvm.
*01:17:785 (3) - To be frank, I think that having a new combo here instead of at 01:17:433 (1) makes much more sense, because here is the spot where a drastic change in the music occurs. I can see that your current combo follows the vocal, however the vocal is quite subtle there and this has a huge impact. Maybe change this?
*01:21:418 (1,2) - Yeah, new combo on that 2 instead of 1. You kinda did here what I asked you to do in above suggestion, however it is one note too early. Don't mind the big white tick, follow the music instead!
*01:25:285 (4) - New combo please.
*01:38:174 (9,1) - Ew. Please, change this. This spacing breaks the flow completely. I can see the reason behind it, but I don't think that's a good idea, it plays terrible and doesn't fit the music either.
*01:48:956 (6,7,1) - Hm, I don't like how this flows. If you can think of something better that's not entirely different, I would be really happy. You could, for example, reverse the slider 1 and do something with the next circle and slider, this way the flow wouldn't change so much in such a short period of time, and would feel much more pleasant to play.
*01:51:418 (1,2,3) - Spacing. Make it more even please.
*01:52:238 (5,6) - Also spacing here. Because you made the spacing uneven before, for a reason I can't find, this pattern is forced to have the same gimmick. Change please.
*01:54:582 (7,8,9) - This could use some re-location. First of all, well the spacing, it's not unrankable or terrible, but it could be better. Unlike the above, I find it more intuitive and less annoying to play. Second, judging by the patterns you use everywhere, they don't really "shadow" anything. For example, take a look at 01:53:761 (3). You didn't use it's starting or ending point for anything. Maybe move this slider and these 3 notes a little just so they actually create a pattern that you used almost everywhere?
*02:04:542 (1,2) - Hm, music tells me that if you reverse these 2, they follow it better (I mean, first the slider, then the circle). Try it and see! (you did this after this part and it sounded nicely, it confused me the first time like this cause I heard an unmapped drum hit where the slider goes over it)
*02:17:199 (3) - I have to ask you do change this a little. It's nearly completely hidden behind hitbursts. I am not content with approving this pattern, sorry. Something like thiscomes to mind.
*02:22:471 (11,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This spacing needs to get fixed. I am already against jumps in streams, but please, atleast keep the spacing readable. In the complete chaos of hitbursts, a person will have a really hard time noticing wtf is going on here.
*02:23:293 (6,1) - This is the biggest reason why I am against those jumps in those streams. This spacing feels too big. Lowering it could cause reading problems. I suggest that you reduce all the jumps in these streams, at least a little bit, and then lower this a bit as well. I read what other people wrote in the thread, and for some part I have to agree that this spacing could use a change. Streams themselves are fine though.
*02:27:159 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Ok, I have no idea what's going on here. I can see that you're trying to follow the melody, however I don't think this is possible to be mapped correctly, in a way you did it. Believe it or not, the drums are mostly 1/3 here, and this is what makes me go ?!?!? here. This is a very crude solution, but it works. Sadly, you lose some of the intensity, however I believe that such a spinner brings something new here, and that is a buildup. You had intensity without a buildup, now you have a buildup without much intensity, but this way you don't have people going wtf is going on here and it still makes sense and doesn't make it any less epic. This part of the song is freestyle and if you choose either to go with 1/3 or 1/2, both will sound wrong.
As we already discussed in the game, I have to disappear for a little while. Will check the taiko diffs later this week. Also, I spoke to Onosaki and he believes that the same issue I pointed out in standard (02:27:159) appears in taiko. Maybe you should focus on that part and probably make a spinner in all diffs, because it's quite problematic.
Overall a very nice map, was really fun to play. A bit silly in the stream part, the flow breaks, but I hope you consider some of my suggestions to fix that.
Popping for now.