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Unofficial Vote Count

Derekku - 1 (adam)
strager - 1 (Echo)
Lucidity - 1 (SFG)
SFG - 1 (0_o)
Yuukari-Banteki

0_o wrote:

Everyone who has role claimed so far has had a special prefix or other change to it (Day Cop, Twilight Townie, Twilight Brownie (?)), except for SFG, who just said she was a "cop". Since adam says he's a Day Cop, I would think the cops would either be told they are a Twilight or Day cop. Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim? I think it's quite possible SFG made an early claim just to appear confident in her role, but didn't have the knowledge of the existence of Twilight/Day cops at the time

SFG wrote:

obviously i was concerned because my cop role is different from adam's. specifically, adam is (supposedly) a Day Cop whereas I am a Twilight Cop.
fail
Lucidity

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

@SFG: Sure it's a good trade if we know that there is only 1 Cop. We don't. Both of you might be Cops. Until Day 2 we won't know how many Mafia there are either. The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
greeeeaaat plan. lets go and kill off the cop to make sure hes a cop and hope the person he happened to scan was mafia. why didnt i think of that?
You did think of that? You're the one who suggested the trade here? I'm the one who said it's only a good plan in a setup where the roles are known? Yeah, I elaborated on a strat to follow if we did go this route, but I didn't suggest we use it and I didn't vote adam. I was simply sharing some thoughts.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.
D: of course im still uninformed i havent had a chance to investigate anyone yet! geez, i cant pull results out of my hat you know.
Well i suppose i could but they wouldnt be very helpful cus thatd be me making stuff up. thats more what i would be doing if i were mafia =.=;
You misunderstood. You are uninformed about your role, the very thing that you should know most about. I find this highly suspicious and the fact that you asked about it in the thread is even more suspicious :/

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?
sorry i figured while strager was having a q&a session i might as well join in. it hadnt occurred to me to pm.
Hmmm.


Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Brownie or Brownjob is a slang term for cop in parts of the US and some fiction series', based on the brown uniforms they wear. I guess what is obvious to me is not necessarily obvious to others.
Yeah...Police officers here wear blue. (Actually it depends on what type of cop but ya. No brown)

SFG has taken strager's spot and shot to the top of my suspect list. The fact that she may be a Cop makes it hard to vote for her though :/
Lucidity

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

0_o wrote:

Everyone who has role claimed so far has had a special prefix or other change to it (Day Cop, Twilight Townie, Twilight Brownie (?)), except for SFG, who just said she was a "cop". Since adam says he's a Day Cop, I would think the cops would either be told they are a Twilight or Day cop. Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim? I think it's quite possible SFG made an early claim just to appear confident in her role, but didn't have the knowledge of the existence of Twilight/Day cops at the time

SFG wrote:

obviously i was concerned because my cop role is different from adam's. specifically, adam is (supposedly) a Day Cop whereas I am a Twilight Cop.
fail
Ninja'd again :O

Here's your initial claim:
oh right i want this discussion started fast so


Claim: Cop
And your second claim:
oh i actually meant to claim cop
You only mentioned "Twilight Cop" now on page 11. After everyone claimed their special roles. The mention of "Twilight Cop" was also necessary to differentiate between Day Cop and your supposed role in that quote. All in all, not a very strong defence from your side :/

Explain? :/
0_o

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

fail

0_o wrote:

Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim?
Of course you know now that you should be a twilight cop, but why didn't you say so when you first claimed? If adam was told he's a day cop, you should have been told you were a twilight cop, and if you were you would have specifically said so when you first claimed. The fact that you were so suspicious of adam's claim of Day Cop also supports this.
Yuukari-Banteki

0_o wrote:

Of course you know now that you should be a twilight cop, but why didn't you say so when you first claimed? If adam was told he's a day cop, you should have been told you were a twilight cop, and if you were you would have specifically said so when you first claimed. The fact that you were so suspicious of adam's claim of Day Cop also supports this.
i thought it was obvious that a cop in a nightless game would act in twilight rather than at night =.= obviously i was horribly mistaken
anonymous_old

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
How is that safe? We only get one investigation from adam that way, and hopefully another from SFG if she makes it to D2. Maybe even none if adam is Naive or Paranoid (or lying about his role, but if that were true, he'd probably be the Mafia and we'd win anyway).

If both Cop claimers are kept alive, and at least one of them remains alive for D2 (likely; hopefully adam stays alive, as he can bring results before Twilight), we can get two or three investigations by D2. However, we don't know the sanities, but that can be found out if either or both Cops are killed by D3, LyLo.

I think it's better to try and keep the Cops alive for at least D2 so they can have as many investigations as they can. Thus, I'm not voting either of the two for now.
If you read my entire post and the post it was aimed at as a reply (SFG's suggestion) you'd understand it better maybe. Please reread :P Pay particular close attention to: "The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy..."
Yeah, I reread it and now I understand what you were saying. Still, I think my points apply (as alternative options).

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.
Maybe so, but I'm giving SFG the benefit of the doubt here, for today. Again, the Cops would be better alive D2 than dead.
:\ She keeps defending you. You keep defending her. Get a room guys ;p
I'm defending her (really, I'm just saying I'm not voting for her; she's not cleared any more than anyone else) because she claimed Cop. Only she and LS and some lucky spectators know if there's truth in the claim, but I don't want to (help) make the mistake of lynching a Cop.

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?
I did the same thing, to a greater degree, even.
Horrid defence this time though! You did the same thing and admitted that it was to the detriment of the town. Why does it make it all better if she does it?
How does it make it worse, as you imply in your original post I quote?

Lucidity wrote:

Furthermore you were trying to find out about roles in general. SFG was fishing for info on the Cop role. The role she claims to be. A role she can safely enquire about via PM without giving the Mafia valuable information. That's not on.
Orly?
viewtopic.php?p=167122#p167122
viewtopic.php?p=166987#p166987
viewtopic.php?p=167144#p167144
viewtopic.php?p=167158#p167158

Then I kinda stop (viewtopic.php?p=167192#p167192).

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

Echo wrote:

A wrong guess at the game setup can easily be disastrous for town. We're wasting precious time on such things.
I agree, which is why I stopped myself. I don't think it's THAT much of a risk that we would lose because of a guess/hunch/whatever, as we have at least three Days to catch the Mafia (assuming there's only one).
Justifying "guessing" with more guessing? That's a nono. We should try to work with what we've been given as much as possible. Any guesses should not be given TOO much weight.
Wha? I agree with your last sentence, which is why I said "I don't think it's THAT much of a risk that we would lose because of a guess/hunch/whatever [...]."

Donner, bbl.
Echo
edit: sniped

That's not true - if your role had been stated as "Night Cop" you'd've said you were "Night Cop"; I don't see why you wouldn't have said "Twilight Cop" if your role had said so.

Even though this is setup speculation, I'm sure everyone here would agree 3 cops doesn't sound quite right :P
Lucidity
edit: Post aimed at strager.

Saa~ Did you ONLY ask about Cops? Sure the majority was focused on it, but it wasn't an exclusive interest. I'm going to bed now, so I'm not going to reread the thread again to find counter examples -.-

You're missing the point though. SFG claimed to be a Cop. You didn't. She could PM LadySuburu to her heart's content and find out everything she possibly wanted. Her role PM would probably have specified most of the things she wanted to know anyway. The point is it's suspicious of a Cop to be so clueless~Throwing around exactly how her role works in the thread is also very risky...
0_o

Echo wrote:

Even though this is setup speculation, I'm sure everyone here would agree 3 cops doesn't sound quite right :P
Actually I think strager's initial "claim" was a joke (in this post he does not say he's a cop)
I just realized this as well, I even had an entire post about how strager and SFG were the mafia, then I read that and now it's just SFG :P
Echo
Wait so only adam and SFG officially claimed cop now?

Can I remind you that Night 0 (or Twilight in this case) is a part of the game - it's a chance to discuss in advance? I won't accept anyone saying that they were "just joking around" in T0.
anonymous_old
About my claim, I thought I clarified here: viewtopic.php?p=167805#p167805

strager wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=166463#p166463
T'was a joke.
I was going with the "re-roleclaim if you're serious" thing by Derekku, which everyone else followed. (Hmm, what did Echo call that again?)

Lucidity wrote:

Saa~ Did you ONLY ask about Cops? Sure the majority was focused on it, but it wasn't an exclusive interest. I'm going to bed now, so I'm not going to reread the thread again to find counter examples -.-
I don't see how that matters. If SFG asked a question here about another role, would that change your mind about pointing SFG's question out? No.

Lucidity wrote:

You're missing the point though. SFG claimed to be a Cop. You didn't. She could PM LadySuburu to her heart's content and find out everything she possibly wanted. Her role PM would probably have specified most of the things she wanted to know anyway. The point is it's suspicious of a Cop to be so clueless~Throwing around exactly how her role works in the thread is also very risky...
It's risky, but there are many possibilities, including:
  1. She was fitting in with the questions I was asking.
  2. She didn't realize she was making her question public and possibly helping the Mafia.
  3. She did realize she was making her question public and was trying to help the Town (and perhaps adam, though I don't think the question she asked applies to him).
  4. She was trying to expand upon my previous question about investigating dead people. (Possible way to find her sanity or land a useful investigation.)
SFG posted that the first of these was the case. I'm inclined to believe the last point was part of asking, too, though.

Wow, I just realized I missed a few posts. /me reads.

Nothing to comment on, though I'm slightly less believing SFG now, to the point where I'm not not going to vote for her today. Still, I'd like to keep a claimed Cop alive until D2.
Yuukari-Banteki

Echo wrote:

Wait so only adam and SFG officially claimed cop now?

Can I remind you that Night 0 (or Twilight in this case) is a part of the game - it's a chance to discuss in advance? I won't accept anyone saying that they were "just joking around" in T0.
i think he was trying to start discussion, as were most of us. its super hard to scumhunt people if theres no discussion going on

edit: fix'd
anonymous_old

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.
Yuukari-Banteki

strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.
oh whoops thats supposed to say scumhunt sry
anonymous_old

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.
oh whoops thats supposed to say scumhunt sry
You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?
Yuukari-Banteki

strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?
..? a while? thats the first time ive mentioned it and accidental at that
anonymous_old

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?
..? a while? thats the first time ive mentioned it and accidental at that
My bad, you only said it once before: viewtopic.php?p=166970#p166970

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people
Yuukari-Banteki

strager wrote:

My bad, you only said it once before: viewtopic.php?p=166970#p166970

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people

k imma go bang my head against a wall for a while and hopefully knock some intelligence back into it....
Echo
strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
Yuukari-Banteki

Echo wrote:

strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
its called protecting the cops cus they can investigate people and you cant...unless theres something you arent telling us
anonymous_old

Echo wrote:

strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
Again, I don't want adam or SFG to be killed D1/N1 so we can have enough investigations. We can lynch adam if he gets a flipped vote D2, find his sanity, and win the game, for example. (If adam is the Mafia, we win anyway.)

I would be doing the same for adam, but he's not talking much or being attacked.
Echo
There's no need to defend possible cops? There wasn't any danger - I'm not voting them, I'm just pointing out possible inconsistencies. You guys seem way too jumpy.

Let me ask you a question then - who do you think we should lynch today then?
anonymous_old

Echo wrote:

Let me ask you a question then - who do you think we should lynch today then?
No idea, hence me not having a vote yet. No one stands out really.
Echo
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Derekku
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anonymous_old
Oh, shit.

I dunno. @_@

Mod: I'd like an official vote count, please.
anonymous_old
And it's four to lynch, right? We'd need at least two votes on one person, otherwise it's a no-lynch. In fact, a no-lynch may be useful for the Cops to investigate, but it gives the Mafia a chance to hit both if there is no Doctor around (which is bad bad bad).
Echo
no lynch on odd numbers is bad, both statistically (which you definitely know) and in terms of scumhunting since votes and reasons for voting reveal much about people

why would you even suggest a no lynch then negate that suggestion by saying it's bad?
0_o
adam, have you made an investigation yet? If you have now's the time to say something...
anonymous_old

Echo wrote:

why would you even suggest a no lynch then negate that suggestion by saying it's bad?
I'm saying a no-lynch will happen if two votes aren't on one person. See what happened in BM1.

I agree with 0_o, because we can test sanities that way. That is, lynch the person who adam investigates and compare it with the role of the lynched person. That will reduce it down to two possible sanities.
Yuukari-Banteki
im gonna lol if adam doesnt say anything before deadline

also vote strager

see, now if nothing happens we still lynch someone ^_^
0_o
How come everyone always wants to knock off strager first day, he was first one lynched in both M3 and M4 >_>
Yuukari-Banteki
i just think we have better chances if we lynch today even if its a random lynch. see Echo's post
Echo
Now you're trying to frame me if strager turns out innocent :/
Yuukari-Banteki

Echo wrote:

Now you're trying to frame me if strager turns out innocent :/
uh hello? what i said had nothing to do with you and everything to do with probability/good general strategy. you just happened to be the person to mention it
anonymous_old
I'm kinda stuck between Echo, Lucidity, and SFG now.

Echo seems pretty lax, like in BM1 and M3, but unlike in M2. In BM1 and M3 he was a Mafia (right? I think), and in M2 he was the Cop. Also, there's that logic about helping the Mafia with information, but even if I agree with him, he did bring that point up in BM1, and I'm not sure if he did M2 (or if the situation called for it). Meta-playing is kinda weak as an argument, though.

Lucidity doesn't (to me) have sense in his reasons for arguing his points. (That's poorly worded; hope you get the meaning.) He could be trying to scumpaint, trying to do something to help the town, or do something to seem to help the town.

SFG's been acting weird today (in Earth days). Pretty suspicious. Still, I don't want to regret a lynch of a Cop.

On the others:

0_o, uh, I forget. Oh, right, he claimed Twilight Townie. No idea. In a similar situation as Derekku. That is, undecided.

adam needs to speak a bit more, especially of his investigation results.

Derekku had a weird claim, and it's pretty wild. He could be claiming such an eccentric role to alleviate suspicion. Of course, he could be telling the truth, too. WIFOM, I think? Nothing for or against him I think.

With that, I'll vote: Lucidity, awaiting adam's investigation results.
Derekku
ffffffff adam was just browsing this forum GET BACK HERE ADAM D:

*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
adam2046
Go to hell.
Make your own decisions.
Echo

strager wrote:

Lucidity doesn't (to me) have sense in his reasons for arguing his points. (That's poorly worded; hope you get the meaning.)
I hope I'm not the only one who sees the irony in this statement.

Derekku Chan wrote:

*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/
anonymous_old
Wow.
anonymous_old
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Derekku

Echo wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/
Uhh yes? What about it?

adam2046 wrote:

Make your own decisions.
Okay then, I will. Vote: adam2046. You're supposed to be helping the town, but you're just making yourself more suspicious and not being useful.
adam2046
That's some great work there.
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
0_o

adam2046 wrote:

That's some great work there.
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
I'll take this to mean you investigated her?

unvote
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

Let's not kill SFG tonight.
Why not? Innocent result?

I really don't see why you're withholding information. I really don't want a Cop claim to be lynched.
adam2046
Then don't lynch me, duh.
Edit: On a side note I've had FOS: strager almost all game.
Yuukari-Banteki
unvote
vote adam
0_o

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

unvote
vote adam
um

what

vote Lucidity because I don't know when the deadline is and if it's soon I don't want adam lynched
adam2046
I think it's plain to see.
Echo

Derekku Chan wrote:

Echo wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/
Uhh yes? What about it?
What results?
adam2046
My results.
0_o
^
"his results" = "adam's results"
Derekku claimed vanilla

EDIT: ninjaaa'd
Derekku
Okay, I'm going to throw an idea out here and it'll probably get shot down.

[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]

I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.

Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
Derekku

Echo wrote:

What results?
Uhhh, I'm a townie, I don't HAVE any results ._.
adam2046
I don't like your idea...why would we kill me?
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
I think it'd be the stupidest strategy ever. (exceptfor some people)
Yuukari-Banteki

Derekku Chan wrote:

Okay, I'm going to throw an idea out here and it'll probably get shot down.

[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]

I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.

Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
that is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. that makes you sound like mafia in my eyes. "Hey guyz lets kill the people that claim cop so they dont investigate me thats a great idea~ ^_^"
Yuukari-Banteki

adam2046 wrote:

I don't like your idea...why would we kill me?
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.

THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
like me maybe?
0_o
GAME IS ENDING REALLY SOON SO VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT LYNCHED NOW
Derekku
@adam/SFG Hey, it's better than nothing.

@SFG Feel free to scan me, but you'll just be wasting your time.
adam2046
Vote: strager
Derekku
LS: i can has vote count?
0_o
mod: a Vote Count would be lovely right now...

EDIT: NINJA'D AGAIN COME ON DEREKKU
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Yuukari-Banteki
ah heck with it i give up on this game. you guys wont lynch me no matter what i do, cus everyone is such a bad player that my acting scummy isnt even noticable amongst the noobiness

claim: jester

just nightkill me so i can concentrate on my WW game plz
anonymous_old
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anonymous_old
SFG's trying not to get lynched by claiming Jester? Hmm, could be a claim by the Mafia. I have no idea. WIFOM?
Yuukari-Banteki
oh and just a note, dont expect me to post in this thread again. do w/e you will with me or my corpse and stuff.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Okay, I have a few bits of info to share at the moment.

1. Due to a slight error on my part, I am resending some role PMs. I did not specify something specifically in some of them, and in another I actually sent the wrong role. If you recieve a PM, you know who you are.

2. Please avoid talking about this game outside the thread. Also remember that any conversation outside MAY be fake as well, in the event some discussion does happen. But please, remember this thread only.
Derekku
ffffffffffff sfg wifom stop it my brain is hurting

@strager: Like I've said before, the problem I have with cops with sanities in short games is that they have to be figured out before we can make anything of it. I mean yeah it still might be useful and there might only be one mafia, but who knows ._.
0_o
OK here's my vote count, everyone make sure your vote is correct here

Lucidity (2) - strager, 0_o Will be lynched if tie remains (I think)
strager (2) - Echo, adam
adam (2) - Derekku, SFG

Not Voting - Lucidity

EDIT: Also, mafia: Kill SFG tonight, since if she doesn't die we will probably lynch her tomorrow, and none of us want a shared win ^_^
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Derekku

strager wrote:

Right, so if a Cop is killed before D3, we know their sanity. No need to self-invstigate and waste a Day.
*facefloor* Oh God wow am I that stupid? I completely forgot that a cop can investigate themselves arghhh sorry. (But oh wait adam investigated SFG first which does NOTHING for me)
0_o
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..

EDIT: also SFG, claiming a role that's a target for night kills probably isn't the best jester strategy :P
Derekku

0_o wrote:

Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Well, one of my previous posts got vanished, but deadline is extended to 7:15 AM tomorrow morning.

Also, trying to fix stuff and finish up, so I can't give a votecount atm. Please do an unofficial votecount or check for yourself at the moment. I have no time currently, I'm sorry.
Yuukari-Banteki
geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get


welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.

Claim: Pressured doctor


i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.

the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.

information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
Derekku

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get


welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.

Claim: Pressured doctor


i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.

the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.

information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
what



the fuck
0_o
That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.

EDIT: disregard all of this
adam2046
So anyway.
Unvote
Yuukari-Banteki

0_o wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

0_o wrote:

Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.
That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.
pay attention. i got a new role.
Derekku
^ lol ninja'd again poor 0_o *hug*

EDIT: ew ninja'd by two people ._.;
0_o
i suck
0_o
mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?
anonymous_old
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.

And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

0_o wrote:

mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?
You can.
Yuukari-Banteki

strager wrote:

Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;o
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Topic Starter
LadySuburu

strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager wrote:

Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;o
Well, whatever. I still think it is safer to PM LS.

Mod: Should SFG's role be changed so protection votes are sent to you instead of SFG?
I feel forwarding is safe, but if enough people would prefer it the other way.., You can have a vote on it, if you want.
0_o
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anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

strager wrote:

And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
If SFG was the jester then she is a third party, separate from the mafia and the town. Neither parties want the jester to win, so it would have been in both of their best interests to get rid of her.
I thought the game continued, though.

Also, does adam have to redo his investigation, or did he re-receive his results? (adam?)
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Derekku
Well if we kill the Jester during a day lynch, that's still giving the town a disadvantage. ffffffff oh well inb4thereisstillajester
adam2046
Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.
You're making yourself more and more suspicious here.
0_o
So adam how come you haven't made an investigation yet, and if you have why aren't you telling us?
anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

So adam how come you haven't made an investigation yet, and if you have why aren't you telling us?
Seriously.

If you really are a Day Cop, you probably can't investigate during the Twilight.
Derekku
Uh, then he was probably smart and investigated himself and just won't tell us for obvious reasons. God adam did you have to be so difficult >:(
anonymous_old

Derekku Chan wrote:

Uh, then he was probably smart and investigated himself and just won't tell us for obvious reasons. God adam did you have to be so difficult >:(
...

You're wasting an investigation if you scan yourself. Sanities are revealed upon death, as far as I know, because roles are.

Mod: Will a Cop's sanity be revealed upon his death?
Derekku
Buhhh oh fuck it I don't give a shit what the cops do anymore.

adam: Give us your results ffs
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