If there are two or more mafia, or any masonry groups, they will commune during twilight.0_o wrote:
mod: Are the mafia allowed to PM eachother at twilight/during the day? (assuming there are more than one mafia)
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greeeeaaat plan. lets go and kill off the cop to make sure hes a cop and hope the person he happened to scan was mafia. why didnt i think of that?Lucidity wrote:
@SFG: Sure it's a good trade if we know that there is only 1 Cop. We don't. Both of you might be Cops. Until Day 2 we won't know how many Mafia there are either. The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.D: of course im still uninformed i havent had a chance to investigate anyone yet! geez, i cant pull results out of my hat you know.
Well i suppose i could but they wouldnt be very helpful cus thatd be me making stuff up. thats more what i would be doing if i were mafia =.=;
Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?sorry i figured while strager was having a q&a session i might as well join in. it hadnt occurred to me to pm.
Brownie or Brownjob is a slang term for cop in parts of the US and some fiction series', based on the brown uniforms they wear. I guess what is obvious to me is not necessarily obvious to others.Sorry I missed the link >: How does Brownie == cop?Saturos-fangirl wrote:
wait this just struck me
brownie == cop?
or are you just joking around o0
yeah we're wasting our precious random vote session while we muddle around trying to figure out what to talk about =.=;Echo wrote:
@sfg:
strager's spent most of his posts speculating about the game setup rather than the game, and combined it with rolefishing. Although he did that last game(s?), there just seems to be more of it in this game than usual. strager's also speculating about what roles can do - eg. roles that gain powers, etc. with absolutely no proof at all, AND such things can never be proved while the game is still running. A wrong guess at the game setup can easily be disastrous for town. We're wasting precious time on such things.
Lucidity also raises some good points about you (sfg) - why do you seem to know absolutely nothing about your supposed cop role?obviously i was concerned because my cop role is different from adam's. specifically, adam is (supposedly) a Day Cop whereas I am a Twilight Cop. Thus the investigations happen at different times and i was confused by the different setup and thought adam was making things up. im still not sure he isnt but you two have persuaded me that he might be telling the truth.
as for the me not trying to take action, i hadnt exactly tracked down the part where Subi said i couldnt take action on T0 but i remembered seeing it, which is why i didnt attempt and couldnt prove offhand that i couldnt take action on T0.
If you read my entire post and the post it was aimed at as a reply (SFG's suggestion) you'd understand it better maybe. Please rereadstrager wrote:
How is that safe? We only get one investigation from adam that way, and hopefully another from SFG if she makes it to D2. Maybe even none if adam is Naive or Paranoid (or lying about his role, but if that were true, he'd probably be the Mafia and we'd win anyway).Lucidity wrote:
The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
If both Cop claimers are kept alive, and at least one of them remains alive for D2 (likely; hopefully adam stays alive, as he can bring results before Twilight), we can get two or three investigations by D2. However, we don't know the sanities, but that can be found out if either or both Cops are killed by D3, LyLo.
I think it's better to try and keep the Cops alive for at least D2 so they can have as many investigations as they can. Thus, I'm not voting either of the two for now.
Pay particular close attention to: "The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy...":\ She keeps defending you. You keep defending her. Get a room guys ;pstrager wrote:
Maybe so, but I'm giving SFG the benefit of the doubt here, for today. Again, the Cops would be better alive D2 than dead.Lucidity wrote:
I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.
Horrid defence this time though! You did the same thing and admitted that it was to the detriment of the town. Why does it make it all better if she does it? Furthermore you were trying to find out about roles in general. SFG was fishing for info on the Cop role. The role she claims to be. A role she can safely enquire about via PM without giving the Mafia valuable information. That's not on.strager wrote:
I did the same thing, to a greater degree, even.Lucidity wrote:
Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?
Justifying "guessing" with more guessing? That's a nono. We should try to work with what we've been given as much as possible. Any guesses should not be given TOO much weight.strager wrote:
I agree, which is why I stopped myself. I don't think it's THAT much of a risk that we would lose because of a guess/hunch/whatever, as we have at least three Days to catch the Mafia (assuming there's only one).Echo wrote:
A wrong guess at the game setup can easily be disastrous for town. We're wasting precious time on such things.
edit: Ninja'd D:
Everyone who has role claimed so far has had a special prefix or other change to it (Day Cop, Twilight Townie, Twilight Brownie (?)), except for SFG, who just said she was a "cop". Since adam says he's a Day Cop, I would think the cops would either be told they are a Twilight or Day cop. Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim? I think it's quite possible SFG made an early claim just to appear confident in her role, but didn't have the knowledge of the existence of Twilight/Day cops at the time
vote SFG
vote SFG
Unofficial Vote Count
Derekku - 1 (adam)
strager - 1 (Echo)
Lucidity - 1 (SFG)
SFG - 1 (0_o)
Derekku - 1 (adam)
strager - 1 (Echo)
Lucidity - 1 (SFG)
SFG - 1 (0_o)
0_o wrote:
Everyone who has role claimed so far has had a special prefix or other change to it (Day Cop, Twilight Townie, Twilight Brownie (?)), except for SFG, who just said she was a "cop". Since adam says he's a Day Cop, I would think the cops would either be told they are a Twilight or Day cop. Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim? I think it's quite possible SFG made an early claim just to appear confident in her role, but didn't have the knowledge of the existence of Twilight/Day cops at the time
failSFG wrote:
obviously i was concerned because my cop role is different from adam's. specifically, adam is (supposedly) a Day Cop whereas I am a Twilight Cop.
You did think of that? You're the one who suggested the trade here? I'm the one who said it's only a good plan in a setup where the roles are known? Yeah, I elaborated on a strat to follow if we did go this route, but I didn't suggest we use it and I didn't vote adam. I was simply sharing some thoughts.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
greeeeaaat plan. lets go and kill off the cop to make sure hes a cop and hope the person he happened to scan was mafia. why didnt i think of that?Lucidity wrote:
@SFG: Sure it's a good trade if we know that there is only 1 Cop. We don't. Both of you might be Cops. Until Day 2 we won't know how many Mafia there are either. The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
You misunderstood. You are uninformed about your role, the very thing that you should know most about. I find this highly suspicious and the fact that you asked about it in the thread is even more suspicious :/Saturos-fangirl wrote:
I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.D: of course im still uninformed i havent had a chance to investigate anyone yet! geez, i cant pull results out of my hat you know.
Well i suppose i could but they wouldnt be very helpful cus thatd be me making stuff up. thats more what i would be doing if i were mafia =.=;
Hmmm.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?sorry i figured while strager was having a q&a session i might as well join in. it hadnt occurred to me to pm.
Yeah...Police officers here wear blue. (Actually it depends on what type of cop but ya. No brown)Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Brownie or Brownjob is a slang term for cop in parts of the US and some fiction series', based on the brown uniforms they wear. I guess what is obvious to me is not necessarily obvious to others.
SFG has taken strager's spot and shot to the top of my suspect list. The fact that she may be a Cop makes it hard to vote for her though :/
Ninja'd again :OSaturos-fangirl wrote:
0_o wrote:
Everyone who has role claimed so far has had a special prefix or other change to it (Day Cop, Twilight Townie, Twilight Brownie (?)), except for SFG, who just said she was a "cop". Since adam says he's a Day Cop, I would think the cops would either be told they are a Twilight or Day cop. Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim? I think it's quite possible SFG made an early claim just to appear confident in her role, but didn't have the knowledge of the existence of Twilight/Day cops at the timefailSFG wrote:
obviously i was concerned because my cop role is different from adam's. specifically, adam is (supposedly) a Day Cop whereas I am a Twilight Cop.
Here's your initial claim:
oh right i want this discussion started fast soAnd your second claim:
Claim: Cop
oh i actually meant to claim copYou only mentioned "Twilight Cop" now on page 11. After everyone claimed their special roles. The mention of "Twilight Cop" was also necessary to differentiate between Day Cop and your supposed role in that quote. All in all, not a very strong defence from your side :/
Explain? :/
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
fail
Of course you know now that you should be a twilight cop, but why didn't you say so when you first claimed? If adam was told he's a day cop, you should have been told you were a twilight cop, and if you were you would have specifically said so when you first claimed. The fact that you were so suspicious of adam's claim of Day Cop also supports this.0_o wrote:
Why didn't SFG specify one of these in her initial role claim?
i thought it was obvious that a cop in a nightless game would act in twilight rather than at night =.= obviously i was horribly mistaken0_o wrote:
Of course you know now that you should be a twilight cop, but why didn't you say so when you first claimed? If adam was told he's a day cop, you should have been told you were a twilight cop, and if you were you would have specifically said so when you first claimed. The fact that you were so suspicious of adam's claim of Day Cop also supports this.
Yeah, I reread it and now I understand what you were saying. Still, I think my points apply (as alternative options).Lucidity wrote:
If you read my entire post and the post it was aimed at as a reply (SFG's suggestion) you'd understand it better maybe. Please rereadstrager wrote:
How is that safe? We only get one investigation from adam that way, and hopefully another from SFG if she makes it to D2. Maybe even none if adam is Naive or Paranoid (or lying about his role, but if that were true, he'd probably be the Mafia and we'd win anyway).Lucidity wrote:
The safest option to pursue if we followed this strategy would be to vote adam, as he is a Day cop and can then investigate before he is lynched, reveal his results and have it confirmed when he dies.
If both Cop claimers are kept alive, and at least one of them remains alive for D2 (likely; hopefully adam stays alive, as he can bring results before Twilight), we can get two or three investigations by D2. However, we don't know the sanities, but that can be found out if either or both Cops are killed by D3, LyLo.
I think it's better to try and keep the Cops alive for at least D2 so they can have as many investigations as they can. Thus, I'm not voting either of the two for now.
I'm defending her (really, I'm just saying I'm not voting for her; she's not cleared any more than anyone else) because she claimed Cop. Only she and LS and some lucky spectators know if there's truth in the claim, but I don't want to (help) make the mistake of lynching a Cop.Lucidity wrote:
:\ She keeps defending you. You keep defending her. Get a room guys ;pstrager wrote:
Maybe so, but I'm giving SFG the benefit of the doubt here, for today. Again, the Cops would be better alive D2 than dead.Lucidity wrote:
I am leaning towards you being a fake Cop though. You just seem too uninformed to be one :/ Examples are here and here.
How does it make it worse, as you imply in your original post I quote?Lucidity wrote:
Horrid defence this time though! You did the same thing and admitted that it was to the detriment of the town. Why does it make it all better if she does it?strager wrote:
I did the same thing, to a greater degree, even.Lucidity wrote:
Here (and following posts) she is fishing for info on what a Cop (Her role) can do. Why not ask about it in a PM instead of giving it to the Mafia in the thread? Unless she's Mafia looking for info?
Orly?Lucidity wrote:
Furthermore you were trying to find out about roles in general. SFG was fishing for info on the Cop role. The role she claims to be. A role she can safely enquire about via PM without giving the Mafia valuable information. That's not on.
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viewtopic.php?p=166987#p166987
viewtopic.php?p=167144#p167144
viewtopic.php?p=167158#p167158
Then I kinda stop (viewtopic.php?p=167192#p167192).
Wha? I agree with your last sentence, which is why I said "I don't think it's THAT much of a risk that we would lose because of a guess/hunch/whatever [...]."Lucidity wrote:
Justifying "guessing" with more guessing? That's a nono. We should try to work with what we've been given as much as possible. Any guesses should not be given TOO much weight.strager wrote:
I agree, which is why I stopped myself. I don't think it's THAT much of a risk that we would lose because of a guess/hunch/whatever, as we have at least three Days to catch the Mafia (assuming there's only one).Echo wrote:
A wrong guess at the game setup can easily be disastrous for town. We're wasting precious time on such things.
Donner, bbl.
edit: sniped
That's not true - if your role had been stated as "Night Cop" you'd've said you were "Night Cop"; I don't see why you wouldn't have said "Twilight Cop" if your role had said so.
Even though this is setup speculation, I'm sure everyone here would agree 3 cops doesn't sound quite right
That's not true - if your role had been stated as "Night Cop" you'd've said you were "Night Cop"; I don't see why you wouldn't have said "Twilight Cop" if your role had said so.
Even though this is setup speculation, I'm sure everyone here would agree 3 cops doesn't sound quite right
edit: Post aimed at strager.
Saa~ Did you ONLY ask about Cops? Sure the majority was focused on it, but it wasn't an exclusive interest. I'm going to bed now, so I'm not going to reread the thread again to find counter examples -.-
You're missing the point though. SFG claimed to be a Cop. You didn't. She could PM LadySuburu to her heart's content and find out everything she possibly wanted. Her role PM would probably have specified most of the things she wanted to know anyway. The point is it's suspicious of a Cop to be so clueless~Throwing around exactly how her role works in the thread is also very risky...
Saa~ Did you ONLY ask about Cops? Sure the majority was focused on it, but it wasn't an exclusive interest. I'm going to bed now, so I'm not going to reread the thread again to find counter examples -.-
You're missing the point though. SFG claimed to be a Cop. You didn't. She could PM LadySuburu to her heart's content and find out everything she possibly wanted. Her role PM would probably have specified most of the things she wanted to know anyway. The point is it's suspicious of a Cop to be so clueless~Throwing around exactly how her role works in the thread is also very risky...
Actually I think strager's initial "claim" was a joke (in this post he does not say he's a cop)Echo wrote:
Even though this is setup speculation, I'm sure everyone here would agree 3 cops doesn't sound quite right
I just realized this as well, I even had an entire post about how strager and SFG were the mafia, then I read that and now it's just SFG
Wait so only adam and SFG officially claimed cop now?
Can I remind you that Night 0 (or Twilight in this case) is a part of the game - it's a chance to discuss in advance? I won't accept anyone saying that they were "just joking around" in T0.
Can I remind you that Night 0 (or Twilight in this case) is a part of the game - it's a chance to discuss in advance? I won't accept anyone saying that they were "just joking around" in T0.
About my claim, I thought I clarified here: viewtopic.php?p=167805#p167805
Wow, I just realized I missed a few posts. /me reads.
Nothing to comment on, though I'm slightly less believing SFG now, to the point where I'm not not going to vote for her today. Still, I'd like to keep a claimed Cop alive until D2.
I was going with the "re-roleclaim if you're serious" thing by Derekku, which everyone else followed. (Hmm, what did Echo call that again?)strager wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=166463#p166463
T'was a joke.
I don't see how that matters. If SFG asked a question here about another role, would that change your mind about pointing SFG's question out? No.Lucidity wrote:
Saa~ Did you ONLY ask about Cops? Sure the majority was focused on it, but it wasn't an exclusive interest. I'm going to bed now, so I'm not going to reread the thread again to find counter examples -.-
It's risky, but there are many possibilities, including:Lucidity wrote:
You're missing the point though. SFG claimed to be a Cop. You didn't. She could PM LadySuburu to her heart's content and find out everything she possibly wanted. Her role PM would probably have specified most of the things she wanted to know anyway. The point is it's suspicious of a Cop to be so clueless~Throwing around exactly how her role works in the thread is also very risky...
- She was fitting in with the questions I was asking.
- She didn't realize she was making her question public and possibly helping the Mafia.
- She did realize she was making her question public and was trying to help the Town (and perhaps adam, though I don't think the question she asked applies to him).
- She was trying to expand upon my previous question about investigating dead people. (Possible way to find her sanity or land a useful investigation.)
Wow, I just realized I missed a few posts. /me reads.
Nothing to comment on, though I'm slightly less believing SFG now, to the point where I'm not not going to vote for her today. Still, I'd like to keep a claimed Cop alive until D2.
i think he was trying to start discussion, as were most of us. its super hard to scumhunt people if theres no discussion going onEcho wrote:
Wait so only adam and SFG officially claimed cop now?
Can I remind you that Night 0 (or Twilight in this case) is a part of the game - it's a chance to discuss in advance? I won't accept anyone saying that they were "just joking around" in T0.
edit: fix'd
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
oh whoops thats supposed to say scumhunt srystrager wrote:
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh whoops thats supposed to say scumhunt srystrager wrote:
Is there a need to scumpaint if someone is already painted? Unless you're the Mafia, of course.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
its super hard to scumpaint people if theres no discussion going on
..? a while? thats the first time ive mentioned it and accidental at thatstrager wrote:
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?
My bad, you only said it once before: viewtopic.php?p=166970#p166970Saturos-fangirl wrote:
..? a while? thats the first time ive mentioned it and accidental at thatstrager wrote:
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
You've been saying 'scumpaint' a while. Maybe you've been playing and watching Pasonia play CM too long?
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people
strager wrote:
My bad, you only said it once before: viewtopic.php?p=166970#p166970Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people
k imma go bang my head against a wall for a while and hopefully knock some intelligence back into it....
strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
its called protecting the cops cus they can investigate people and you cant...unless theres something you arent telling usEcho wrote:
strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
Again, I don't want adam or SFG to be killed D1/N1 so we can have enough investigations. We can lynch adam if he gets a flipped vote D2, find his sanity, and win the game, for example. (If adam is the Mafia, we win anyway.)Echo wrote:
strager, why are you feeding SFG a defense?
I would be doing the same for adam, but he's not talking much or being attacked.
There's no need to defend possible cops? There wasn't any danger - I'm not voting them, I'm just pointing out possible inconsistencies. You guys seem way too jumpy.
Let me ask you a question then - who do you think we should lynch today then?
Let me ask you a question then - who do you think we should lynch today then?
No idea, hence me not having a vote yet. No one stands out really.Echo wrote:
Let me ask you a question then - who do you think we should lynch today then?
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Oh, shit.
I dunno. @_@
Mod: I'd like an official vote count, please.
I dunno. @_@
Mod: I'd like an official vote count, please.
And it's four to lynch, right? We'd need at least two votes on one person, otherwise it's a no-lynch. In fact, a no-lynch may be useful for the Cops to investigate, but it gives the Mafia a chance to hit both if there is no Doctor around (which is bad bad bad).
no lynch on odd numbers is bad, both statistically (which you definitely know) and in terms of scumhunting since votes and reasons for voting reveal much about people
why would you even suggest a no lynch then negate that suggestion by saying it's bad?
why would you even suggest a no lynch then negate that suggestion by saying it's bad?
adam, have you made an investigation yet? If you have now's the time to say something...
I'm saying a no-lynch will happen if two votes aren't on one person. See what happened in BM1.Echo wrote:
why would you even suggest a no lynch then negate that suggestion by saying it's bad?
I agree with 0_o, because we can test sanities that way. That is, lynch the person who adam investigates and compare it with the role of the lynched person. That will reduce it down to two possible sanities.
im gonna lol if adam doesnt say anything before deadline
also vote strager
see, now if nothing happens we still lynch someone ^_^
also vote strager
see, now if nothing happens we still lynch someone ^_^
How come everyone always wants to knock off strager first day, he was first one lynched in both M3 and M4 >_>
i just think we have better chances if we lynch today even if its a random lynch. see Echo's post
Now you're trying to frame me if strager turns out innocent :/
uh hello? what i said had nothing to do with you and everything to do with probability/good general strategy. you just happened to be the person to mention itEcho wrote:
Now you're trying to frame me if strager turns out innocent :/
I'm kinda stuck between Echo, Lucidity, and SFG now.
Echo seems pretty lax, like in BM1 and M3, but unlike in M2. In BM1 and M3 he was a Mafia (right? I think), and in M2 he was the Cop. Also, there's that logic about helping the Mafia with information, but even if I agree with him, he did bring that point up in BM1, and I'm not sure if he did M2 (or if the situation called for it). Meta-playing is kinda weak as an argument, though.
Lucidity doesn't (to me) have sense in his reasons for arguing his points. (That's poorly worded; hope you get the meaning.) He could be trying to scumpaint, trying to do something to help the town, or do something to seem to help the town.
SFG's been acting weird today (in Earth days). Pretty suspicious. Still, I don't want to regret a lynch of a Cop.
On the others:
0_o, uh, I forget. Oh, right, he claimed Twilight Townie. No idea. In a similar situation as Derekku. That is, undecided.
adam needs to speak a bit more, especially of his investigation results.
Derekku had a weird claim, and it's pretty wild. He could be claiming such an eccentric role to alleviate suspicion. Of course, he could be telling the truth, too. WIFOM, I think? Nothing for or against him I think.
With that, I'll vote: Lucidity, awaiting adam's investigation results.
Echo seems pretty lax, like in BM1 and M3, but unlike in M2. In BM1 and M3 he was a Mafia (right? I think), and in M2 he was the Cop. Also, there's that logic about helping the Mafia with information, but even if I agree with him, he did bring that point up in BM1, and I'm not sure if he did M2 (or if the situation called for it). Meta-playing is kinda weak as an argument, though.
Lucidity doesn't (to me) have sense in his reasons for arguing his points. (That's poorly worded; hope you get the meaning.) He could be trying to scumpaint, trying to do something to help the town, or do something to seem to help the town.
SFG's been acting weird today (in Earth days). Pretty suspicious. Still, I don't want to regret a lynch of a Cop.
On the others:
0_o, uh, I forget. Oh, right, he claimed Twilight Townie. No idea. In a similar situation as Derekku. That is, undecided.
adam needs to speak a bit more, especially of his investigation results.
Derekku had a weird claim, and it's pretty wild. He could be claiming such an eccentric role to alleviate suspicion. Of course, he could be telling the truth, too. WIFOM, I think? Nothing for or against him I think.
With that, I'll vote: Lucidity, awaiting adam's investigation results.
ffffffff adam was just browsing this forum GET BACK HERE ADAM D:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
Go to hell.
Make your own decisions.
Make your own decisions.
I hope I'm not the only one who sees the irony in this statement.strager wrote:
Lucidity doesn't (to me) have sense in his reasons for arguing his points. (That's poorly worded; hope you get the meaning.)
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/Derekku Chan wrote:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
Wow.
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Uhh yes? What about it?Echo wrote:
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/Derekku Chan wrote:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
Okay then, I will. Vote: adam2046. You're supposed to be helping the town, but you're just making yourself more suspicious and not being useful.adam2046 wrote:
Make your own decisions.
That's some great work there.
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
I'll take this to mean you investigated her?adam2046 wrote:
That's some great work there.
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
unvote
Why not? Innocent result?adam2046 wrote:
Let's not kill SFG tonight.
I really don't see why you're withholding information. I really don't want a Cop claim to be lynched.
Then don't lynch me, duh.
Edit: On a side note I've had FOS: strager almost all game.
Edit: On a side note I've had FOS: strager almost all game.
unvote
vote adam
vote adam
umSaturos-fangirl wrote:
unvote
vote adam
what
vote Lucidity because I don't know when the deadline is and if it's soon I don't want adam lynched
I think it's plain to see.
What results?Derekku Chan wrote:
Uhh yes? What about it?Echo wrote:
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/Derekku Chan wrote:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
My results.
^
"his results" = "adam's results"
Derekku claimed vanilla
EDIT: ninjaaa'd
"his results" = "adam's results"
Derekku claimed vanilla
EDIT: ninjaaa'd
Okay, I'm going to throw an idea out here and it'll probably get shot down.
[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]
I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.
Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]
I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.
Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
Uhhh, I'm a townie, I don't HAVE any results ._.Echo wrote:
What results?
I don't like your idea...why would we kill me?
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
I think it'd be the stupidest strategy ever. (exceptfor some people)
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
I think it'd be the stupidest strategy ever. (exceptfor some people)
that is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. that makes you sound like mafia in my eyes. "Hey guyz lets kill the people that claim cop so they dont investigate me thats a great idea~ ^_^"Derekku Chan wrote:
Okay, I'm going to throw an idea out here and it'll probably get shot down.
[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]
I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.
Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
adam2046 wrote:
I don't like your idea...why would we kill me?
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.like me maybe?
GAME IS ENDING REALLY SOON SO VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT LYNCHED NOW
@adam/SFG Hey, it's better than nothing.
@SFG Feel free to scan me, but you'll just be wasting your time.
@SFG Feel free to scan me, but you'll just be wasting your time.
Vote: strager
LS: i can has vote count?
mod: a Vote Count would be lovely right now...
EDIT: NINJA'D AGAIN COME ON DEREKKU
EDIT: NINJA'D AGAIN COME ON DEREKKU
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ah heck with it i give up on this game. you guys wont lynch me no matter what i do, cus everyone is such a bad player that my acting scummy isnt even noticable amongst the noobiness
claim: jester
just nightkill me so i can concentrate on my WW game plz
claim: jester
just nightkill me so i can concentrate on my WW game plz
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SFG's trying not to get lynched by claiming Jester? Hmm, could be a claim by the Mafia. I have no idea. WIFOM?
oh and just a note, dont expect me to post in this thread again. do w/e you will with me or my corpse and stuff.
Topic Starter
Okay, I have a few bits of info to share at the moment.
1. Due to a slight error on my part, I am resending some role PMs. I did not specify something specifically in some of them, and in another I actually sent the wrong role. If you recieve a PM, you know who you are.
2. Please avoid talking about this game outside the thread. Also remember that any conversation outside MAY be fake as well, in the event some discussion does happen. But please, remember this thread only.
1. Due to a slight error on my part, I am resending some role PMs. I did not specify something specifically in some of them, and in another I actually sent the wrong role. If you recieve a PM, you know who you are.
2. Please avoid talking about this game outside the thread. Also remember that any conversation outside MAY be fake as well, in the event some discussion does happen. But please, remember this thread only.
ffffffffffff sfg wifom stop it my brain is hurting
@strager: Like I've said before, the problem I have with cops with sanities in short games is that they have to be figured out before we can make anything of it. I mean yeah it still might be useful and there might only be one mafia, but who knows ._.
@strager: Like I've said before, the problem I have with cops with sanities in short games is that they have to be figured out before we can make anything of it. I mean yeah it still might be useful and there might only be one mafia, but who knows ._.
OK here's my vote count, everyone make sure your vote is correct here
Lucidity (2) - strager, 0_o Will be lynched if tie remains (I think)
strager (2) - Echo, adam
adam (2) - Derekku, SFG
Not Voting - Lucidity
EDIT: Also, mafia: Kill SFG tonight, since if she doesn't die we will probably lynch her tomorrow, and none of us want a shared win ^_^
Lucidity (2) - strager, 0_o Will be lynched if tie remains (I think)
strager (2) - Echo, adam
adam (2) - Derekku, SFG
Not Voting - Lucidity
EDIT: Also, mafia: Kill SFG tonight, since if she doesn't die we will probably lynch her tomorrow, and none of us want a shared win ^_^
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*facefloor* Oh God wow am I that stupid? I completely forgot that a cop can investigate themselves arghhh sorry. (But oh wait adam investigated SFG first which does NOTHING for me)strager wrote:
Right, so if a Cop is killed before D3, we know their sanity. No need to self-invstigate and waste a Day.
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
EDIT: also SFG, claiming a role that's a target for night kills probably isn't the best jester strategy
EDIT: also SFG, claiming a role that's a target for night kills probably isn't the best jester strategy
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.0_o wrote:
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
Topic Starter
Well, one of my previous posts got vanished, but deadline is extended to 7:15 AM tomorrow morning.
Also, trying to fix stuff and finish up, so I can't give a votecount atm. Please do an unofficial votecount or check for yourself at the moment. I have no time currently, I'm sorry.
Also, trying to fix stuff and finish up, so I can't give a votecount atm. Please do an unofficial votecount or check for yourself at the moment. I have no time currently, I'm sorry.
geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get
welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.
Claim: Pressured doctor
i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.
the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.
information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.
Claim: Pressured doctor
i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.
the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.
information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
whatSaturos-fangirl wrote:
geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get
welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.
Claim: Pressured doctor
i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.
the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.
information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
the fuck
EDIT: disregard all of this
So anyway.
Unvote
Unvote
pay attention. i got a new role.0_o wrote:
That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.Derekku Chan wrote:
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.0_o wrote:
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
^ lol ninja'd again poor 0_o *hug*
EDIT: ew ninja'd by two people ._.;
EDIT: ew ninja'd by two people ._.;
i suck
mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
Topic Starter
You can.0_o wrote:
mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;ostrager wrote:
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
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Topic Starter
I feel forwarding is safe, but if enough people would prefer it the other way.., You can have a vote on it, if you want.strager wrote:
Well, whatever. I still think it is safer to PM LS.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;ostrager wrote:
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
Mod: Should SFG's role be changed so protection votes are sent to you instead of SFG?
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I thought the game continued, though.0_o wrote:
If SFG was the jester then she is a third party, separate from the mafia and the town. Neither parties want the jester to win, so it would have been in both of their best interests to get rid of her.strager wrote:
And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
Also, does adam have to redo his investigation, or did he re-receive his results? (adam?)
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Well if we kill the Jester during a day lynch, that's still giving the town a disadvantage. ffffffff oh well inb4thereisstillajester
Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.
You're making yourself more and more suspicious here.adam2046 wrote:
Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.