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Hi guys, I'm reading the thirty pages of stuff right now. Would it help if I claimed?
No, and that could make you as suspicious as Salvage.
Alright, so I don't think we really need to lynch Salvage just yet- just leave him for the scum without protection. If the most useful aux role known so far is left alive, I would think he's lying and then we could lynch him tomorrow. Of course this is subject to as much WIFOM as you like, because Mafia could choose not to kill him just so we'd lynch him, but either way we can worry about it tomorrow, when we have aux results that could help sort it out.
Pieguy, I know that you're always gutting people, so that may not be a scumtell but I don't think it's productive either way. As town it's not likely to be right, and as scum it gives you an excuse to vote without an excuse. If you suspect someone without real reason, perhaps keep it to yourself or ISO that person to see if you can find an explanation.
LS seems quiet, I don't know if having nothing to say is a town excuse to be overlooked for the NK or a scum excuse lurk. Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim. FoS, in any case
Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
Pieguy, I know that you're always gutting people, so that may not be a scumtell but I don't think it's productive either way. As town it's not likely to be right, and as scum it gives you an excuse to vote without an excuse. If you suspect someone without real reason, perhaps keep it to yourself or ISO that person to see if you can find an explanation.
LS seems quiet, I don't know if having nothing to say is a town excuse to be overlooked for the NK or a scum excuse lurk. Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim. FoS, in any case
Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
Pretty much. I've already stated that I think both pieguy and Salvage are potentially scum (Alongside DxS for doing nothing but correcting the votecount after NoHItter posted it), but I'm not the type to lynch a claimed power role on D1, and I have certain suspicions about DxS's role.akrolsmir wrote:
Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim.
As for pieguy, I'm just not sure enough to vote him yet. Other than that, no there's been nothing new that really stands out. Not much different than D1 any other game at the moment.
Also, I have a friend over at the house right now, so I won't be on long to read. Though, I will check back occasionally.
I'm sorry, do you mind pointing out the part where I'm actually voting Salvage? Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.pieguy1372 wrote:
However, FoS adam2046, Wojjan
Wanting to lynch Salvage even though it's not the right move (and with adam, he specifically said it). I have a gut feeling Wojjan is town, not so much on adam2046 though. adam2046 has also been rather inactive (compared to others), which fits what I said before.
I have only slightly more posts than you in this thread, too.
You didn't vote him but
I want Wojjan lynched, more than you do, but you're making it extremely hard for me to not vote you instead entirely out of distaste.Voting someone out of distaste doesn't make sense IMO
"gut" "distate"
I did not see the day coming. I think you are pushing a tad too far with this. What are you trying to pull out of this? It almost seems like if you are backing up Salvage (with bad attempts).
And having those HoS as a "joke" is really not what town should be doing. HoS is a strong action and you are only just disillusioning us if you are HoSing someone as a "joke". Heck, did you actually expected the person to take HoS as a joke in the first place? Why not just RV next time since that's milder.
I did not see the day coming. I think you are pushing a tad too far with this. What are you trying to pull out of this? It almost seems like if you are backing up Salvage (with bad attempts).
And having those HoS as a "joke" is really not what town should be doing. HoS is a strong action and you are only just disillusioning us if you are HoSing someone as a "joke". Heck, did you actually expected the person to take HoS as a joke in the first place? Why not just RV next time since that's milder.
Yeah, as if this obvious line
Also, I'm just posting defenses for myself, which is IMO one of the things you're supposed to do in this game. Everything else is my thoughts on what's going on, which might include me saying I don't think someone else is mafia. Also (again), don't make me reiterate my speech about gut voting D1...
(Not a serious HoS btwalong with an obviously invalid reason isn't enough to make it completely disregardable...)
Also, I'm just posting defenses for myself, which is IMO one of the things you're supposed to do in this game. Everything else is my thoughts on what's going on, which might include me saying I don't think someone else is mafia. Also (again), don't make me reiterate my speech about gut voting D1...
Yay internet.
pieguy, don't make me reiterate my points on why I don't think gut voting is an appropriate course of action.
Actually your constant suspicion hopping is giving me a headache, more so than Salvage's posts (at least he isn't unconfident in his suspicions, just extremely arrogant). It's like a case of "it's him, no him, no wait him!"
Make up your mind, Vote: pieguy
pieguy, don't make me reiterate my points on why I don't think gut voting is an appropriate course of action.
Actually your constant suspicion hopping is giving me a headache, more so than Salvage's posts (at least he isn't unconfident in his suspicions, just extremely arrogant). It's like a case of "it's him, no him, no wait him!"
Make up your mind, Vote: pieguy
hi, posting
looks like we have more time than I though (7 days, not 5) which is a good thing.
this whole ISO thing really seems like its helping people notice a lot more small shit that they wouldn't before. The whole pieguy thing earlier in the game doesn't seem like much of a reason to vote him, but then again I haven't ever really seen him act like that before in any other game (meta).
From what I saw while looking at the ISOs, Mara doesn't really seem to be contributing much of anything. Also fishie kinda fell off the map after people didn't follow Salvage onto the bandwagon. DxS is being DxS again... I don't really understand why he fucking signs up anymore. Other than that I don't have much to add.
looks like we have more time than I though (7 days, not 5) which is a good thing.
this whole ISO thing really seems like its helping people notice a lot more small shit that they wouldn't before. The whole pieguy thing earlier in the game doesn't seem like much of a reason to vote him, but then again I haven't ever really seen him act like that before in any other game (meta).
From what I saw while looking at the ISOs, Mara doesn't really seem to be contributing much of anything. Also fishie kinda fell off the map after people didn't follow Salvage onto the bandwagon. DxS is being DxS again... I don't really understand why he fucking signs up anymore. Other than that I don't have much to add.
mod: votecount please?
I only changed suspicions once, from LunaticMara to DxS. (I still think DxS is the most suspicious.) I haven't changed my mind since then, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean. >.>
I only changed suspicions once, from LunaticMara to DxS. (I still think DxS is the most suspicious.) I haven't changed my mind since then, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean. >.>
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (5) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon, Rolled
DeathxShinigami (2) - pieguy1372, akrolsmir
pieguy1372 (2) - bmin11, Rantai
fishie (1) Lybydose
akrolsmir (1) - DeathxShinigami
Wojjan (1) - adam2046
Mashley (1) - Lilac
adam2046 (1) - Salvage
Not Voting (5) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Jaqennn, LadySuburu, Mashley, KRZY
Salvage (5) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon, Rolled
DeathxShinigami (2) - pieguy1372, akrolsmir
pieguy1372 (2) - bmin11, Rantai
fishie (1) Lybydose
akrolsmir (1) - DeathxShinigami
Wojjan (1) - adam2046
Mashley (1) - Lilac
adam2046 (1) - Salvage
Not Voting (5) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Jaqennn, LadySuburu, Mashley, KRZY
did he just decide to keep playing or something?NoHItter wrote:
Jaqennn has asked for a replacement.
Again.pieguy1372 wrote:
Voting someone out of distaste doesn't make sense IMO
I didn't vote for him.
Is this so hard to understand?
I won't include your joke HoS (though arguably it is distracting)pieguy1372 wrote:
mod: votecount please?
I only changed suspicions once, from LunaticMara to DxS. (I still think DxS is the most suspicious.) I haven't changed my mind since then, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean. >.>
RVS (yeah, I know, RVS) --> First --> Second --> Third
Before you say you didn't vote them (third), you are still suspicious of them, hence suspicion hopping.
Topic Starter
I'm still waiting for a reply from rust45.foulcoon wrote:
did he just decide to keep playing or something?
You said you wanted to, though... I know you didn't actually, but it's still not a good idea.adam2046 wrote:
I didn't vote for him.
(And wow, did you even pay attention to my post? I even said you didn't vote for him)...>.> It would only be suspicion hopping if I suddenly wasn't suspicious of DxS. Although I didn't explicitly state it, I still find DxS to be the most suspicious. This should have been implied by not unvoting him. I just became suspicious of more people. (And the very first one was a RV) Thus, the only time my suspicion really changed was from the first non-RV to the second one.Rantai wrote:
RVS (yeah, I know, RVS) --> First --> Second --> Third
Before you say you didn't vote them (third), you are still suspicious of them, hence suspicion hopping.
Really, it seems to me like you both are accusing me without any regard to what my posts really say. In other words, trying to interpret my posts in order to make them sound like they mean something different, in order to mislead people. Maybe I just wasn't clear enough and you all are doing this because it's D1 and you want any possible lead you can get, but that's exactly one of the goals of the mafia.
...and it seems I misworded something
One of the goals of the mafia is to mislead people, not to come up with possible leads. The latter one is more a towntell~pieguy1372 wrote:
Maybe I just wasn't clear enough and you all are doing this because it's D1 and you want any possible lead you can get, but that's exactly one of the goals of the mafia.
Guess my gripe is unclear.
Your suspicions at this moment are based on 'gut', so essentially nothing for all practical purposes. Then you start spouting more suspicions based on nothing while dismissing the previous ones (this only applies to First and Second) based on nothing. Then you moved on to your Third set with some HoS's, immediately dismissing one (within the text) with no reasoning again.
Funny enough the only time you had some sort of reasoning behind the suspicions was your HoS of adam which makes me wonder why your votes (which are based on less, as far as I'm concerned) take precedence over your HoS.
Your suspicions at this moment are based on 'gut', so essentially nothing for all practical purposes. Then you start spouting more suspicions based on nothing while dismissing the previous ones (this only applies to First and Second) based on nothing. Then you moved on to your Third set with some HoS's, immediately dismissing one (within the text) with no reasoning again.
Funny enough the only time you had some sort of reasoning behind the suspicions was your HoS of adam which makes me wonder why your votes (which are based on less, as far as I'm concerned) take precedence over your HoS.
I gave my reasoning for DxS (second one) here.
My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><
When I removed my previous vote after making my LunaticMara (first) vote, there was nothing to the previous vote at all since it was a RV, so there should be no problem with removing it. Listing that as a reason doesn't make much sense IMO.
oh wait, I remember the time I had a gut feeling on you ever since D1 and you were mafia, perhaps you and DxS are both mafia this time?
My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><
When I removed my previous vote after making my LunaticMara (first) vote, there was nothing to the previous vote at all since it was a RV, so there should be no problem with removing it. Listing that as a reason doesn't make much sense IMO.
Pieguy, the most important part is that I'm not voting him. The one who doesn't understand is you.
I said that I was considering voting out of distaste to emphasize that I really didn't like how Salvage was acting. I know exactly how much of a good idea it would be. You're making a deal out of nothing.
Now if I were actually voting him for that reason I could understand being suspicious of me, but you're basing your entire suspicion of me on a single vote that hasn't happened and probably wont happen.
Man pieguy, I'm considering voting you because I don't like your signature.
I said that I was considering voting out of distaste to emphasize that I really didn't like how Salvage was acting. I know exactly how much of a good idea it would be. You're making a deal out of nothing.
Now if I were actually voting him for that reason I could understand being suspicious of me, but you're basing your entire suspicion of me on a single vote that hasn't happened and probably wont happen.
Man pieguy, I'm considering voting you because I don't like your signature.
Why didn't you just say that when you first voted DxS?pieguy1372 wrote:
I gave my reasoning for DxS (second one) here.
Or did you need time to think of a way to justify your vote. (Really only you know, so much WIFOM)
Why make the vote in the first place (Mara's one), it had the same weight as an RVS you might as well not have done anything in that regard.pieguy1372 wrote:
My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><
That one comes off as you were forcing a vote to look like you're doing *something*.
Of course, I am not associating that RVS to my disagreement with you.pieguy1372 wrote:
When I removed my previous vote after making my LunaticMara (first) vote, there was nothing to the previous vote at all since it was a RV, so there should be no problem with removing it. Listing that as a reason doesn't make much sense IMO.
Oh! I see where that was misleading, I only have a problem starting from Mara's vote onwards to clear that up, sorry.
pieguy1372 wrote:
oh wait, I remember the time I had a gut feeling on you ever since D1 and you were mafia, perhaps you and DxS are both mafia this time?
<3
Topic Starter
Looking for a replacement for Jaqennn.
Actually, this sounds pretty bad and needs to be fixed.akrolsmir wrote:
Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
Vote: DxS
Wanna tell some stories, DxS?
Agreed
Vote DxS
Vote DxS
FoS akrilsmir
Are you implying to lynch the lurkers?
Are you implying to lynch the lurkers?
Vote: DxS
Hate my role, hate this game.
Rather be used as fodder than requesting for a replacement.
Hate my role, hate this game.
Rather be used as fodder than requesting for a replacement.
Did you read my post? The most important part is that you wanted to vote for him, regardless of the fact that you didn't. (OT: Do you actually know what my signature says?adam2046 wrote:
Pieguy, the most important part is that I'm not voting him. The one who doesn't understand is you.
)At the time I wasn't exactly sure why DxS seemed suspicious to me, but after some time I figured it out.Rantai wrote:
Why didn't you just say that when you first voted DxS?pieguy1372 wrote:
I gave my reasoning for DxS (second one) here.
Or did you need time to think of a way to justify your vote. (Really only you know, so much WIFOM)
I made that vote because at that point in time, I thought LunaticMara was the most suspicious. Thus, it has more weight than an RV.Why make the vote in the first place (Mara's one), it had the same weight as an RVS you might as well not have done anything in that regard.pieguy1372 wrote:
My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><
That one comes off as you were forcing a vote to look like you're doing *something*.
pieguy1372 wrote:
oh wait, I remember the time I had a gut feeling on you ever since D1 and you were mafia, perhaps you and DxS are both mafia this time?Oh wait, I remember that game where you gut voted a lot and I had my self doubts and you were mafia, maybe you and Salvage are mafia this time?
<3
I give up on you.
OT: Sure.
OT: Sure.
K, unvoteWojjan wrote:
no. ask for a replacement.
People are dropping out of this game like... some things that drop a lot. Unvote.
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Something about pieguy doesn't click- I think it's how much emphasis he puts into justifying his actions by saying "this is how town should play", "this is how mafia would play", etc. If you're genuine, why do you feel the need to reinforce it so much? It's not really a strong indicator, but enough to make me suspicious.
Vote: Mashley- a few posts, but mostly one-liners or bandwagon votes with no analysis on your own part. Trying to get by without doing any work?
Er... yes?Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
FoS akrilsmir
Are you implying to lynch the lurkers?
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Something about pieguy doesn't click- I think it's how much emphasis he puts into justifying his actions by saying "this is how town should play", "this is how mafia would play", etc. If you're genuine, why do you feel the need to reinforce it so much? It's not really a strong indicator, but enough to make me suspicious.
Vote: Mashley- a few posts, but mostly one-liners or bandwagon votes with no analysis on your own part. Trying to get by without doing any work?
Yep!akrolsmir wrote:
Trying to get by without doing any work?
okay i'm back, even tho i already said like thousands of times that i know 2 mafia members and nobody listens to me i find a Mashley lynch better than anyone else cause he's pretty suspicious so fair enough.
vote: Mashley
vote: Mashley
More lurker lynches, and people following up on the bandwagon. Hmm.
Oh my gooood scum harder! HOw can you seriously scumpaint two people and VOTE SOMEONE ELSE and get away with it?!Salvage wrote:
okay i'm back, even tho i already said like thousands of times that i know 2 mafia members and nobody listens to me i find a Mashley lynch better than anyone else cause he's pretty suspicious so fair enough.
vote: Mashley
Wojjan wrote:
Oh my gooood scum harder! HOw can you seriously scumpaint two people and VOTE SOMEONE ELSE and get away with it?!Salvage wrote:
okay i'm back, even tho i already said like thousands of times that i know 2 mafia members and nobody listens to me i find a Mashley lynch better than anyone else cause he's pretty suspicious so fair enough.
vote: Mashley
I really won't listen to you're stuff anymore cause since a few pages back i know you're mafia, the thing is that i can't get you lynched cause people doesn't trust me, sadly for town i guess, i don't have even a bit of a doubt that you aren't.
You still haven't stated how you know that he is mafia.