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PyP Video Game Mafia [MAFIA+SURVIVOR] - Dr. Hitter Escapes!

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adam2046
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Joined April 2008
adam2046

Salvage wrote:

i read everything and pay attention to everything
Well we already know that's not true at all.

Salvage wrote:

i'm almost 100% sure adam/wojjan or even both of them are mafia
Almost 100%
It's fucking day 1. You are not a mafia genius. Stop digging yourself a hole.
I don't want someone who claimed to be lynched day 1, but you're certainly not helping yourself with your attitude and actions. I want Wojjan lynched, more than you do, but you're making it extremely hard for me to not vote you instead entirely out of distaste.

For srs.
bmin11
5,438 posts
Joined October 2008
bmin11
I'm not sure about Wojjan, but I'm willing to lynch pieguy for reasons a page back. I would have to wait for pieguy to come back I guess.
Mara
4,906 posts
Joined November 2009
Mara
Hey guys what's going on this mafia thr-

OH SNAP

I am keeping my vote for now. I don't see anything wrong with pieguy - he should just tell us about his gut feeling.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
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Joined May 2009
KRZY

LunaticMara wrote:

Hey guys what's going on this mafia thr-

OH SNAP

VOTE LUNATICMARA
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
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Joined May 2009
KRZY
just kidding actually

Unvote
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: #3
4,845 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Sorry for the triple post but

bmin11 wrote:

The way I recommand you to play

bmin11 wrote:

recommand

bmin11 wrote:

recommand
Really now bmin
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
@LunaticMara: From what I've seen, everything that's happened so far has just seemed like town members arguing with each other. It doesn't seem to me like anyone has any behind-the-scenes plan of some sort (which if they were mafia, it would be to get Salvage or someone else lynched). Because of this, I'm inclined to say that inactive players are more likely to be mafia, and I singled out DxS because he was posting just a bit as if not to get called out for not posting. It's just a gut feeling but it's the best I can do >.<

Salvage did roleclaim tracker/watcher, so I don't want to vote him for now, but the problem is tracker and watcher aren't used that often so even if it was fake no one could call him out on it. IMO, the best thing to do is to leave him for now and lynch someone else, and if we get some contradictions later we can go back and lynch him.

@bmin: I only did that because LS was taking it seriously, when it was mostly a joke :?

However, FoS adam2046, Wojjan
Wanting to lynch Salvage even though it's not the right move (and with adam, he specifically said it). I have a gut feeling Wojjan is town, not so much on adam2046 though. adam2046 has also been rather inactive (compared to others), which fits what I said before.
Rolled
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Rolled

Salvage wrote:

realize that a lynch on me it's not a good option (also to point out that Wojjan suggested that) since i roleclaimed an important pro-town role ..
This is exactly what makes your claim so hard to believe. The only pro-town vibe you're supplying is your roleclaim, which you have very blatantly acknowledged to be a power-role. Obviously WIFOM, but if you were mafia on the verge of being lynched, you'd roleclaim a power role.

Also, your wording of the above sentence is what is pushing me over the edge. "Since I roleclaimed an important pro-town role. Rather than "I am/have an important pro-town role." I know it's minor, but putting together all the pieces, I'm confident enough to Vote: Salvage

I've considered letting Salvage live until D2 but honestly, how credible will his information be? I'm confident that the information we get from his death will be more credible and useful than anything he can supply D2.

Not to mention like half the posts in this thread have been from Salvage, and 1/8th of Salvage's posts have been informative.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
if you read my entire post i'm stating things since the town point of view, so of course i won't say "i AM a pro-town role" cause you guys do not know that for sure ..
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

Rolled wrote:

I've considered letting Salvage live until D2 but honestly, how credible will his information be? I'm confident that the information we get from his death will be more credible and useful than anything he can supply D2.

Not to mention like half the posts in this thread have been from Salvage, and 1/8th of Salvage's posts have been informative.


also how my death could give any information AT ALL? you guys will be back at square one loosing an important informative role without any need of doing so, cause there are so many ways to proove my self town that it doesn't even make sense to lynch me now.


oh and my post haven't been informative? i already gave 2 mafia member names, that people doesn't listen to me cause it's my 3rd game doesn't mean that my post weren't informative.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
We won't be at square one. You're already forgetting about investigators.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
i'm one of them and you're gonna lynch me in that situation.



anyways i'm goin out now, back in a few hours guys ..
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Hmm... after doing some research, I came across this.

There's nothing about infiltrators.
NoHitter
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Topic Starter
NoHitter
akrolsmir is replacing Backfire.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Hi guys, I'm reading the thirty pages of stuff right now. Would it help if I claimed?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
No, and that could make you as suspicious as Salvage.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Alright, so I don't think we really need to lynch Salvage just yet- just leave him for the scum without protection. If the most useful aux role known so far is left alive, I would think he's lying and then we could lynch him tomorrow. Of course this is subject to as much WIFOM as you like, because Mafia could choose not to kill him just so we'd lynch him, but either way we can worry about it tomorrow, when we have aux results that could help sort it out.

Pieguy, I know that you're always gutting people, so that may not be a scumtell but I don't think it's productive either way. As town it's not likely to be right, and as scum it gives you an excuse to vote without an excuse. If you suspect someone without real reason, perhaps keep it to yourself or ISO that person to see if you can find an explanation.

LS seems quiet, I don't know if having nothing to say is a town excuse to be overlooked for the NK or a scum excuse lurk. Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim. FoS, in any case

Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

akrolsmir wrote:

Or you really can't think of anything, which no doubt you will claim.
Pretty much. I've already stated that I think both pieguy and Salvage are potentially scum (Alongside DxS for doing nothing but correcting the votecount after NoHItter posted it), but I'm not the type to lynch a claimed power role on D1, and I have certain suspicions about DxS's role.

As for pieguy, I'm just not sure enough to vote him yet. Other than that, no there's been nothing new that really stands out. Not much different than D1 any other game at the moment.
LadySuburu
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Joined June 2008
LadySuburu
Also, I have a friend over at the house right now, so I won't be on long to read. Though, I will check back occasionally.
adam2046
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adam2046

pieguy1372 wrote:

However, FoS adam2046, Wojjan
Wanting to lynch Salvage even though it's not the right move (and with adam, he specifically said it). I have a gut feeling Wojjan is town, not so much on adam2046 though. adam2046 has also been rather inactive (compared to others), which fits what I said before.
I'm sorry, do you mind pointing out the part where I'm actually voting Salvage? Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.
I have only slightly more posts than you in this thread, too.
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
You didn't vote him but
I want Wojjan lynched, more than you do, but you're making it extremely hard for me to not vote you instead entirely out of distaste.
Voting someone out of distaste doesn't make sense IMO :?
bmin11
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bmin11
"gut" "distate"




I did not see the day coming. I think you are pushing a tad too far with this. What are you trying to pull out of this? It almost seems like if you are backing up Salvage (with bad attempts).

And having those HoS as a "joke" is really not what town should be doing. HoS is a strong action and you are only just disillusioning us if you are HoSing someone as a "joke". Heck, did you actually expected the person to take HoS as a joke in the first place? Why not just RV next time since that's milder.
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
Yeah, as if this obvious line
(Not a serious HoS btw :P)
along with an obviously invalid reason isn't enough to make it completely disregardable...

Also, I'm just posting defenses for myself, which is IMO one of the things you're supposed to do in this game. Everything else is my thoughts on what's going on, which might include me saying I don't think someone else is mafia. Also (again), don't make me reiterate my speech about gut voting D1...
Rantai
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Rantai
Yay internet.

pieguy, don't make me reiterate my points on why I don't think gut voting is an appropriate course of action.

Actually your constant suspicion hopping is giving me a headache, more so than Salvage's posts (at least he isn't unconfident in his suspicions, just extremely arrogant). It's like a case of "it's him, no him, no wait him!"

Make up your mind, Vote: pieguy
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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Joined July 2008
foulcoon
hi, posting

looks like we have more time than I though (7 days, not 5) which is a good thing.

this whole ISO thing really seems like its helping people notice a lot more small shit that they wouldn't before. The whole pieguy thing earlier in the game doesn't seem like much of a reason to vote him, but then again I haven't ever really seen him act like that before in any other game (meta).

From what I saw while looking at the ISOs, Mara doesn't really seem to be contributing much of anything. Also fishie kinda fell off the map after people didn't follow Salvage onto the bandwagon. DxS is being DxS again... I don't really understand why he fucking signs up anymore. Other than that I don't have much to add.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
mod: votecount please?

I only changed suspicions once, from LunaticMara to DxS. (I still think DxS is the most suspicious.) I haven't changed my mind since then, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean. >.>
NoHitter
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NoHitter
VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (5) - fishie, LunaticMara, Wojjan, foulcoon, Rolled
DeathxShinigami (2) - pieguy1372, akrolsmir
pieguy1372 (2) - bmin11, Rantai
fishie (1) Lybydose
akrolsmir (1) - DeathxShinigami
Wojjan (1) - adam2046
Mashley (1) - Lilac
adam2046 (1) - Salvage

Not Voting (5) - Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Jaqennn, LadySuburu, Mashley, KRZY
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon

NoHItter wrote:

Jaqennn has asked for a replacement.
did he just decide to keep playing or something?
adam2046
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adam2046

pieguy1372 wrote:

Voting someone out of distaste doesn't make sense IMO :?
Again.
I didn't vote for him.
Is this so hard to understand?
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

mod: votecount please?

I only changed suspicions once, from LunaticMara to DxS. (I still think DxS is the most suspicious.) I haven't changed my mind since then, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean. >.>
I won't include your joke HoS (though arguably it is distracting)


RVS (yeah, I know, RVS) --> First --> Second --> Third

Before you say you didn't vote them (third), you are still suspicious of them, hence suspicion hopping.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

foulcoon wrote:

did he just decide to keep playing or something?
I'm still waiting for a reply from rust45.
pieguyn
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pieguyn

adam2046 wrote:

I didn't vote for him.
You said you wanted to, though... I know you didn't actually, but it's still not a good idea. :? (And wow, did you even pay attention to my post? I even said you didn't vote for him)

Rantai wrote:

RVS (yeah, I know, RVS) --> First --> Second --> Third

Before you say you didn't vote them (third), you are still suspicious of them, hence suspicion hopping.
...>.> It would only be suspicion hopping if I suddenly wasn't suspicious of DxS. Although I didn't explicitly state it, I still find DxS to be the most suspicious. This should have been implied by not unvoting him. I just became suspicious of more people. (And the very first one was a RV) Thus, the only time my suspicion really changed was from the first non-RV to the second one.

Really, it seems to me like you both are accusing me without any regard to what my posts really say. In other words, trying to interpret my posts in order to make them sound like they mean something different, in order to mislead people. Maybe I just wasn't clear enough and you all are doing this because it's D1 and you want any possible lead you can get, but that's exactly one of the goals of the mafia.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
...and it seems I misworded something

pieguy1372 wrote:

Maybe I just wasn't clear enough and you all are doing this because it's D1 and you want any possible lead you can get, but that's exactly one of the goals of the mafia.
One of the goals of the mafia is to mislead people, not to come up with possible leads. The latter one is more a towntell~
Rantai
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Rantai
Guess my gripe is unclear.

Your suspicions at this moment are based on 'gut', so essentially nothing for all practical purposes. Then you start spouting more suspicions based on nothing while dismissing the previous ones (this only applies to First and Second) based on nothing. Then you moved on to your Third set with some HoS's, immediately dismissing one (within the text) with no reasoning again.

Funny enough the only time you had some sort of reasoning behind the suspicions was your HoS of adam which makes me wonder why your votes (which are based on less, as far as I'm concerned) take precedence over your HoS.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
I gave my reasoning for DxS (second one) here.

My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><

When I removed my previous vote after making my LunaticMara (first) vote, there was nothing to the previous vote at all since it was a RV, so there should be no problem with removing it. Listing that as a reason doesn't make much sense IMO.

oh wait, I remember the time I had a gut feeling on you ever since D1 and you were mafia, perhaps you and DxS are both mafia this time?
adam2046
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adam2046
Pieguy, the most important part is that I'm not voting him. The one who doesn't understand is you.
I said that I was considering voting out of distaste to emphasize that I really didn't like how Salvage was acting. I know exactly how much of a good idea it would be. You're making a deal out of nothing.
Now if I were actually voting him for that reason I could understand being suspicious of me, but you're basing your entire suspicion of me on a single vote that hasn't happened and probably wont happen.

Man pieguy, I'm considering voting you because I don't like your signature.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

I gave my reasoning for DxS (second one) here.
Why didn't you just say that when you first voted DxS?

Or did you need time to think of a way to justify your vote. (Really only you know, so much WIFOM)


pieguy1372 wrote:

My LunaticMara vote (first one) had little reasoning (compared to future votes) because there wasn't much information, and was entirely a gut feeling. Then, I changed it because my gut feeling on DxS was stronger and more reliable due to additional information. Did you really think I would want to keep a vote with far less reason? ><
Why make the vote in the first place (Mara's one), it had the same weight as an RVS you might as well not have done anything in that regard.

That one comes off as you were forcing a vote to look like you're doing *something*.

pieguy1372 wrote:

When I removed my previous vote after making my LunaticMara (first) vote, there was nothing to the previous vote at all since it was a RV, so there should be no problem with removing it. Listing that as a reason doesn't make much sense IMO.
Of course, I am not associating that RVS to my disagreement with you.

Oh! I see where that was misleading, I only have a problem starting from Mara's vote onwards to clear that up, sorry.

pieguy1372 wrote:

oh wait, I remember the time I had a gut feeling on you ever since D1 and you were mafia, perhaps you and DxS are both mafia this time?
Oh wait, I remember that game where you gut voted a lot and I had my self doubts and you were mafia, maybe you and Salvage are mafia this time?

<3
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Looking for a replacement for Jaqennn.
Mara
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Mara

akrolsmir wrote:

Vote: DxS for saying absolutely nothing.
Actually, this sounds pretty bad and needs to be fixed.

Vote: DxS

Wanna tell some stories, DxS?
Mashley
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Mashley
Agreed
Vote DxS
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