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yea might as well follow recent ranked, not official feat crediting is there so this is like allowance usage to get both of them there, which is fine since its already on ranked, no real need to change the ordering again for something that works

this is all magically solved if android52 replies

Alright so, i did some digging

First up, Plexi's version is a rearrangement that tries to mimic the track that existed on soundcloud, length doesnt really match, the start is kinda the same but not really, its very odd.

There was indeed, at some point a track called the new "new nisekoi groove" on soundcloud, there is no wayback machine url, the only proof of its existance is the automated tweets from soundcloud. this is the only proof of its existance everything else is scrubbed off, no wayback links, no nothing,

https://imgur.com/9e8pCPq

I did some searching and i found an old bandcamp listing that is supposed to have the new new nisekoi groove on it according to musicbrainz that SOMEHOW sourced it as 20 tracks ( https://musicbrainz.org/release/85f05366-2f48-4cae-89dc-ad4abe83bf51 ), but the wayback listing for this album has 13 tracks, so where did those other tracks come from? (http://web.archive.org/web/20160610214840/https://baq5.bandcamp.com/album/android52-presents-file-corrupted)

i found a reddit post where a user was talking about how they came in contact with android52 and they sent him the entirety of FILE CORRUPTED (the album) which had 20 tracks instead of 13, which tracks with the musicbrainz listing and only thing that corroborates it (https://www.reddit.com/r/futurefunk/comments/wclv8t/i_immortalised_one_of_my_personal_favourite/) check the first comment

taken from the comment

The man himself, android52, got in touch with me on twitter and sent me his files for WELCOME NEW GALAXY and, upon request, FILE CORRUPTED! With this, I can 100% confirm that File Corrupted is a 20 track album and that only 13 tracks were shown on Bandcamp with the rest being available only through downloading. (Where the 10 track version I had came from I have no idea)

i managed to get my hands on the 20 track file corrupted album version and true enough there WAS a the new new nisekoi groove track and... it was a 3:40 track that is 100% different from this

https://imgur.com/eAmrVZD

So, what the hell happened?

Apparently android52 at some point completely rebranded and then deleted much of their catalogue, im sure the actual track named that way existed, and then was proceeded to be branded as a title oon another song, and its all very confusing. What is true however is that this track is indeed a very eerily similar version of the sped-up version of Welcome To Groove, a song released on the now rebranded android52 on bandcamp

https://neoncityrecords.bandcamp.com/album/anime-wav-groove-vol-1-2 : This was released in 2018

There is so little information to go around anything we can do is conjecture. So this is what i think happened.

Welcome to Groove is using the stems and melody from the old deleted soundcloud version and re-released on the welcome to groove disc.

the soundcloud version did exist, and theres enough people going around seeing that it existed, pishi himself used that metadata taken from the soundcloud which is confirmed to exist (https://soundcloud.com/android52/nnnisekoi) (no wayback links), so by association we can assume that THIS was the audio of that soundcloud link and call it a day. There is also the oppostive side however where user Keisuke Shibata on twitter is commenting how this track is an edit of Sleep zzz from nisekoi

https://x.com/kei__shibata/status/749291843196588034

this is corroborated by the mp3 i found that was 3:40 and is indeed a future funk remix of sleep zzz (idk if i can post audio here so like uhh trust me bro)

THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING

Using the new new nisekoi groove by association since the presence of this track is corroborated multiple times by third parties is iffy since theres also contractions, but it could work, i wouldnt personally do this, but i wouldnt bat an eye if it happened isnce information is so sparse where its IMPOSSIBLE to get any primary sourcing, the audio is just lost. There is also the contentioon of the 3:40 new nisekoi groove existing that was given to the album ver, but we dont know if android52 just deadass used that name on another track, but that track is essentially a nisekoi remix and twitter link above also supports that this might have been the soundcloud link

The only way i can think of to avoid conjecture headache, since indeed this is kinda like a sped up ver of welcome to groove, and to get a better mp3 at the same time, is to get the actual welcome to groove track, speed it up to approximately the length of this mp3, and use that mp3 and name it Welcome To Groove (Sped Up Ver.), since the mp3 was changed to that officially, without getting into the specifics of what the hell the new new nisekoi groove was supposed to be,

i spent more time than i thought on this, in the end i couldnt get a clear answer due to the sparsity of the information, so the best that i can do is get all the info out there so the people can read this and reach a verdict, im not really that active in this game anymore so i will probably not follow up on this or have it tracked, i was approacehd to comment on this and so i did. have a good one

omg >//////< haii :3

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its a length marker denoting the version used for the game its no different than an opening of a visual novel that gets the game ver, the differentation that is marked on the album stems from the fact that this is the game version, the standardization applies, nothing is added or removed the marker just changes to a new one as per the new meta rc, other circumstances dont really factor here, this is a pretty straightforward standardization imo

Im just posting here for reference to anyone who happens to see the thread but i do think (Game Ver.) is the play here. @the consistency argument: sadly all the ranked maps were ranked before the new RC was merged (August 22nd) (i checked)

There isnt any addition with markers, the rule essentially changes -Opening Movie version- to (Game Ver.) per standardization. Having a loonger version doesnt really matter. It would matter if there wasnt a marker. For example if there wasnt a longer version of this song, and this version had no marker, u are not allowed to add game ver.

Game ver is one of those Markers that should be always standardized but not always added

• If there are similar markers in a song's title, replace them with the relevant marker from the list below. There is indeed a similar marker that denotes game ver
• (Game Ver.) Used to mark game versions of songs. Examples to replace include: ~Game Size~, (Game Size), game OP edit, OP Version for tracks used in games. OP version is also given as an example

With new rules come ambiguous stuff everytime, and i understand that this is pretty much a technicality, but as per the new RC i do think changing this is the move. I did talk with the mapper before posting this and we discussed it im just posting here incase someone else wants to offer any input or at least, get some context as to why this has changed to game ver

I understand where ascendance is coming from as its quite the leap but such is the case sometimes imo. I havent heard this song in forever but assuming this is a normal shorter length cut and no rearrangement has happened then i can understand the logic behind converting <REFLEC BEAT Edition> to (Game Ver.) since reflec beat is the game and it can fall under Game Ver. standardization as per the new metadata RC. (its similar to converting the OP Version marker to "Game Ver")

I assume the spirit of the rule wanted to umbrella all these markers into a clear universal osu marker for game editions. and this is essentially a conflict between the wording of "there are similar markers in the songs title" (is REFLEC BEAT Edition that similar to game ver?) vs. Game ver is to be used to mark game versions of songs ("Reflec beat edition denotes game version length, shouldnt it be game version?) and i think this is the first time where a game version length marker wasnt using the obvious formats u usually see

It really comes down to where you draw the line. If you ask me i think Game Ver. is fine, someoone might think its a stretch, but i personally think it does the job well enough in the current context to convey what this version actually is