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Eels - I Need Some Sleep

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Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 30. ledna 2015 at 17:14:07

Artist: Eels
Title: I Need Some Sleep
Source: Shrek 2
Tags: -Bakari- DreamWorks Mark Oliver Everett
BPM: 64
Filesize: 5881kb
Play Time: 02:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (1,61 stars, 175 notes)
  2. Beginner (0,95 stars, 87 notes)
Download: Eels - I Need Some Sleep
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#3


Mapset
Beginner - Bakari
Advanced - Pjecoo

Storyboard - Pjecoo
Last edited by Mortem , edited 55 times in total.
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
yo, just a few things. No need to kd me.

[Sheeps]
  1. First of all, the DS feels rather inconsistent. try to improve it a bit. For this relaxing song, the DS changes are a bit confusing. I'd rather keep the DS consistent (with some jumps, antijumps, ofc. but not too many)
  2. Secondly, I recommend you to improve curvy sliders. For example, 01:23:860 (2) - can be improved into something like this
    Also, there's an awesome guide, which could be useful for you. Read it here!
There's also a problem with the SB, it's unrankable, as it is now. I guess we should do something about it.

Just pointed out a few things to work on. Hope it'll hlep. Oh, and add my username to the tags!
Asphyxia
Beatmap Nominator
2,001 posts
Joined June 2012
Asphyxia
-Bakari- told me to mod this so lemme do that in few days, marked so I wont forget (hopefully...)
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Asphyxia wrote:

-Bakari- told me to mod this so lemme do that in few days, marked so I wont forget (hopefully...)
Okay, thank you :oops:
Raszero
20 posts
Joined November 2012
Raszero
My m4m!
General:
I don't know if its just part of the song but bits of the mp3 seem a bit choppy, sorry if it's part of the song but makes it a bit less relaxing
For some reason I can't place notes on your map, so I'm sorry if some things are a little off as I couldnt test them!

Easy
00:07:933 (1) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end
01:51:980 (5) - this doesn't sound right as a slider, a beat seems better
02:12:601 (5) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end
Are you going to add Kiai time to this difficulty? Probably makes sense if you do on normal
Normal
It seems hard to get some beats as precise as they want to be because of the low BPM, I'd be tempted to ask someone more experience if 1/8 could be used to achieve this, very wide gap now
00:25:275 - Slider here to where 1 is
00:34:179 (6) - Start a new combo here
00:59:957 (4) - Personally rather this without the clap, up to you
01:19:641 (1,2) - I think these would be better spaced apart.
01:21:985 (4,5,6) - I'd space this according to distance snapping. A few notes looked like they wanted a bit different but I couldnt check, but this one stood out
01:26:672 (4,5,6) - I'd remove overlap here cause normal
01:43:310 (3) - I prefer this a tic later and extending to where 4 is without claps at end slide
01:47:059 (2) - this clap sounds out of place to me
01:50:809 (7,8,1,2,3) - I'm not too fond of the hitsounds here, maybe try quieter or moving them around a bit
02:05:806 (2,3) - Make these more spaced

Hope this helps!!
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy

Raszero wrote:

My m4m!
General:
I don't know if its just part of the song but bits of the mp3 seem a bit choppy, sorry if it's part of the song but makes it a bit less relaxing
For some reason I can't place notes on your map, so I'm sorry if some things are a little off as I couldnt test them!

Easy
00:07:933 (1) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end that'd be too hard for this kind of diff, sorry :(
01:51:980 (5) - this doesn't sound right as a slider, a beat seems better I just can't ignore drums on the red tick, but I don't want to overuse circles here, so the slider fits great, imo
02:12:601 (5) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end this would be too tricky for this diff, sorry :(
Are you going to add Kiai time to this difficulty? Probably makes sense if you do on normal since that's a guest diff I can keep my own kiais. so, I'd prefer to use only kiai-fountains
Thanks for checking!
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Raszero wrote:

My m4m!
General:
I don't know if its just part of the song but bits of the mp3 seem a bit choppy, sorry if it's part of the song but makes it a bit less relaxing
For some reason I can't place notes on your map, so I'm sorry if some things are a little off as I couldnt test them!

Easy
00:07:933 (1) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end
01:51:980 (5) - this doesn't sound right as a slider, a beat seems better
02:12:601 (5) - I think I prefer this as a slider then a note where the reverse would end
Are you going to add Kiai time to this difficulty? Probably makes sense if you do on normal
Normal
It seems hard to get some beats as precise as they want to be because of the low BPM, I'd be tempted to ask someone more experience if 1/8 could be used to achieve this, very wide gap now
00:25:275 - Slider here to where 1 is done
00:34:179 (6) - Start a new combo here done
00:59:957 (4) - Personally rather this without the clap, up to you
01:19:641 (1,2) - I think these would be better spaced apart. done
01:21:985 (4,5,6) - I'd space this according to distance snapping. A few notes looked like they wanted a bit different but I couldnt check, but this one stood out
01:26:672 (4,5,6) - I'd remove overlap here cause normal
01:43:310 (3) - I prefer this a tic later and extending to where 4 is without claps at end slide
01:47:059 (2) - this clap sounds out of place to me
01:50:809 (7,8,1,2,3) - I'm not too fond of the hitsounds here, maybe try quieter or moving them around a bit
02:05:806 (2,3) - Make these more spaced done

Hope this helps!!
I didn't fix everything, but at least those that i marked as done, anyway thanks :)
Fycho
Global Moderator
2,486 posts
Joined August 2012
Fycho
heya~ad -Bakari-'s request.

[Mod Info]
  1. Black: Suggestions
  2. Bold: Importance.You might consider
  3. Red:Unrank issues. You Must Fix

[General]
  1. Check your aimod please resnap all unsnapped objects to timing ticks in all diffs
  2. Uninherited timing points are different from each other
  3. Unsnapped KIAI time
    in Beginner:00:15:432 ,
    in Adavance:
  4. I suggest you use a regular resolution of bg like 1366x768/1289x720/1024x768 etc..If you can't change the resolution I can help you.
  5. If you change offset please move all the inherited timing point together.
  6. Remove L01-1.psd in lyrics folder

[Advance]
  1. 00:15:432 -00:52:458 -–you can add some whistle at these ticks since this part is too blank imo.like00:15:432 -00:17:307 –etc..just like beginner diff.
  2. 01:07:924 –try to reduce the volume since this part is not stronger than kiai 00:52:927 –
  3. 01:52:449 (2,3,1) –stack perfectly?
  4. 02:01:588 –add a note? Since there is a beat.
  5. 02:22:913 –reduce the spinner’s volume to 5% like beginner diff
Your all hitsound volume is 55% which can’t express the pitch changes of music. I suggest you use large volume at chorus.

[Beginner]
  1. 00:51:989 (5) –remove in the sliderbody, it’s no need imo, only add whistle at sliderhead and sliderend is better
  2. 01:36:982 (1) – sliderend, sampleset-drum is too light to hear, I suggest you try to use normal sampleset
  3. 01:51:980 (5) –slideredn sampleset-normal or drum like01:37:451 -? Since music is the same.

good luck<3
Asphyxia
Beatmap Nominator
2,001 posts
Joined June 2012
Asphyxia
Yeaaah, sorry for the delay... ): It would be nice if you could reply to my mod, write down stuff you did and did not fix and WHY. Thank you <3

General thoughts
  1. Overall you got a nice mapset here, but your difficulty settings between those two difficulties are way too big and it needs to be fixed. So, for this very reason you should raise up your beginners settings up a notch. Example settings could be 2-3-2
  2. Yeaah, Fycho covered the general stuff otherwise so fix that ^^

Beginner
  1. 00:04:184 (4) - Since beginner difficulties are kind of slow, usually a combos that tend to go over 5 or 6 are pretty long. (this is just my opinion, of course) So, you might want to consider adding a NC here.
  2. 00:11:683 (3) - ^ You get the idea by now (hopefully), if you agreed to do this, keep doing this
  3. 00:08:871 - This beat here is quite powerful and it's not very nice to ignore it, consider adding a whistle here. (this means that you have to add whistles to similar places like this also to keep your whistle pattern consistent)
  4. 00:16:370 (2) - I think overall this slider is fine, shape-wise.... not that much. Really the curve isn't the best because of that redpoint and it also creates an awful bump there that shouldn't be there. Here's an example picture for you how to improve this shape!
    Example
  5. 00:21:994 (6,1) - Do you mind fixing the blanket here?
  6. 00:41:678 (3) - The slider here has a nice shape, I like it very much but the main reason I brought this up is because it can be better in a way. As you can see here http://puu.sh/7co9X.jpg the blanket isn't perfect and again, the slider has a weird bump. Do it like this instead to fix both of them?
    Example
  7. 00:59:488 (5) - Usually sliders that end on a big white tick is bad, because of this you're kind of ignoring the powerful beat there that could be played but it's not ''wrong'' so feel free to keep it.
  8. 01:26:671 (3,4) - Blanket?
  9. 01:49:168 (3) - You forgot a whistle?
  10. This was very well done, great job!

Advanced
  1. Because the song is so calm, a map deserves easy and rather calm settings, right? Just lower your HP + OD by one tick, I think this would make it better when playing but it's your choice.
  2. I don't see you using any whistles at the intro, why is that? Remember to add them, please!
  3. 00:18:244 (5) - The curve of this slider is a bit bad, sorry, this is a way to improve it though!
    Example
  4. 00:21:525 (4) - The second point in this slider feels really random and it makes it pretty bad, try removing it?
  5. 00:25:743 (1) - Sliders like these can be done only with 1 point since we have the new system, so this would apply to 00:30:899 (2) - , 00:52:927 (1,3) - and so on...
  6. 00:51:989 (5,6) - Remove the NC here to be consistent with 00:48:240 (1,2) - and 00:44:490 (1,2) - ?
  7. 00:56:676 (1,3) - These shapes aren't the most beautiful again, to improve this, you might want to try something like this instead!
    Example
    Shaping done like this --> http://puu.sh/7coSP.jpg
  8. 01:39:795 (3) - The shape again D: 01:44:481 (5) - same
  9. 02:10:259 (6) - ^
  10. To be consistent with your Beginner difficulty, end your slider 02:24:787 - here.

Overall it was a nice mapset although you need to work on your slider shapes on the Advanced difficulty a bit more, otherwise looks nice~ 8-)
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy

Fycho wrote:

[Beginner]
  1. 00:51:989 (5) –remove in the sliderbody, it’s no need imo, only add whistle at sliderhead and sliderend is better sure
  2. 01:36:982 (1) – sliderend, sampleset-drum is too light to hear, I suggest you try to use normal sampleset uh.. I'd go with drum sampleset, normal feels too lou here :(
  3. 01:51:980 (5) –slideredn sampleset-normal or drum like01:37:451 -? Since music is the same.why not? let's do it

good luck<3

Asphyxia wrote:

Yeaaah, sorry for the delay... ): It would be nice if you could reply to my mod, write down stuff you did and did not fix and WHY. Thank you <3 you're welcome :3

General thoughts
  1. Overall you got a nice mapset here, but your difficulty settings between those two difficulties are way too big and it needs to be fixed. So, for this very reason you should raise up your beginners settings up a notch. Example settings could be 2-3-2 kinda unsure about I still feel like keeping them low, gonna go with 1-2-1

Beginner
  1. 00:04:184 (4) - Since beginner difficulties are kind of slow, usually a combos that tend to go over 5 or 6 are pretty long. (this is just my opinion, of course) So, you might want to consider adding a NC here. my combos are 4-6 objects long, so it is not too long, I guess. Sorry
  2. 00:11:683 (3) - ^ You get the idea by now (hopefully), if you agreed to do this, keep doing this I'd try to keep my combos as they are. I feel like placing NCs this way fits with the diff's rhythm better
  3. 00:08:871 - This beat here is quite powerful and it's not very nice to ignore it, consider adding a whistle here. (this means that you have to add whistles to similar places like this also to keep your whistle pattern consistent) will do it, thanks for the nice idea!
  4. 00:16:370 (2) - I think overall this slider is fine, shape-wise.... not that much. Really the curve isn't the best because of that redpoint and it also creates an awful bump there that shouldn't be there. Here's an example picture for you how to improve this shape! sure
    Example
  5. 00:21:994 (6,1) - Do you mind fixing the blanket here? fixed!
  6. 00:41:678 (3) - The slider here has a nice shape, I like it very much but the main reason I brought this up is because it can be better in a way. As you can see here http://puu.sh/7co9X.jpg the blanket isn't perfect and again, the slider has a weird bump. Do it like this instead to fix both of them? yeah
    Example
  7. 00:59:488 (5) - Usually sliders that end on a big white tick is bad, because of this you're kind of ignoring the powerful beat there that could be played but it's not ''wrong'' so feel free to keep it. it's done on purpose to emphasize end of this part of the music. I'll change if people will complain more :)
  8. 01:26:671 (3,4) - Blanket? whoops
  9. 01:49:168 (3) - You forgot a whistle? uguu
  10. This was very well done, great job! Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot for your mods!

I hope your know how to use codes :)
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: Eels - I need some sleep.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 52695
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 0

[Metadata]
Title:I Need Some Sleep
TitleUnicode:I Need Some Sleep
Artist:Eels
ArtistUnicode:Eels
Creator:Pjecoo
Version:Lullaby
Source:Shrek II
Tags:
BeatmapID:369794
BeatmapSetID:149667

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1
CircleSize:2
OverallDifficulty:1
ApproachRate:2
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:2

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302,242,130727,1,2,3:0:0:0:
400,305,131664,1,2,0:0:0:0:
460,205,132601,2,0,L|470:93,2,97.5,2|2|2,0:0|0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
426,252,134476,6,0,P|384:269|295:237,1,130,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,156,136351,1,0,0:0:0:0:
119,194,137288,2,0,P|99:245|132:327,1,130
232,346,139163,2,0,L|367:333,1,130,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,141038,12,0,144787,0:0:0:0:
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Fycho wrote:

heya~ad -Bakari-'s request.

[Mod Info]
  1. Black: Suggestions
  2. Bold: Importance.You might consider
  3. Red:Unrank issues. You Must Fix

[General]
  1. Check your aimod please resnap all unsnapped objects to timing ticks in all diffs done
  2. Uninherited timing points are different from each other WIP
  3. Unsnapped KIAI time done
    in Beginner:00:15:432 ,
    in Adavance:
  4. I suggest you use a regular resolution of bg like 1366x768/1289x720/1024x768 etc..If you can't change the resolution I can help you.
  5. If you change offset please move all the inherited timing point together.
  6. Remove L01-1.psd in lyrics folder done

[Advance]
  1. 00:15:432 -00:52:458 -–you can add some whistle at these ticks since this part is too blank imo.like00:15:432 -00:17:307 –etc..just like beginner diff. done
  2. 01:07:924 –try to reduce the volume since this part is not stronger than kiai 00:52:927 – done
  3. 01:52:449 (2,3,1) –stack perfectly? fixed
  4. 02:01:588 –add a note? Since there is a beat. done
  5. 02:22:913 –reduce the spinner’s volume to 5% like beginner diff - done
Your all hitsound volume is 55% which can’t express the pitch changes of music. I suggest you use large volume at chorus.


good luck<3 thanks :)

Asphyxia wrote:

Yeaaah, sorry for the delay... ): It would be nice if you could reply to my mod, write down stuff you did and did not fix and WHY. Thank you <3

Advanced
  1. Because the song is so calm, a map deserves easy and rather calm settings, right? Just lower your HP + OD by one tick, I think this would make it better when playing but it's your choice. done
  2. I don't see you using any whistles at the intro, why is that? Remember to add them, please! fixed
  3. 00:18:244 (5) - The curve of this slider is a bit bad, sorry, this is a way to improve it though! fixed
    Example
  4. 00:21:525 (4) - The second point in this slider feels really random and it makes it pretty bad, try removing it? done
  5. 00:25:743 (1) - Sliders like these can be done only with 1 point since we have the new system, so this would apply to 00:30:899 (2) - , 00:52:927 (1,3) - and so on... done
  6. 00:51:989 (5,6) - Remove the NC here to be consistent with 00:48:240 (1,2) - and 00:44:490 (1,2) - ? done
  7. 00:56:676 (1,3) - These shapes aren't the most beautiful again, to improve this, you might want to try something like this instead! done
    Example
    Shaping done like this --> http://puu.sh/7coSP.jpg
  8. 01:39:795 (3) - The shape again D: 01:44:481 (5) - same
  9. 02:10:259 (6) - ^ done
  10. To be consistent with your Beginner difficulty, end your slider 02:24:787 - here. done

Overall it was a nice mapset although you need to work on your slider shapes on the Advanced difficulty a bit more, otherwise looks nice~ 8-)
Thanks :)
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
SPOILER
15:11 Pjecoo: Zdar...dal bys M4M?
15:12 Wafu: Podle toho, jakou máš mapu.
15:12 *Pjecoo is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/369794 Eels - I Need Some Sleep]
15:12 Pjecoo: Ještě potřebuju alespoň 2 co by to namodovali..
15:12 Wafu: Za chvíli se na to kouknu
15:13 Pjecoo: Byl bych ti vděčný? A na oplátku, co bys chtěl namodovat?
15:17 Wafu: Teď se na to jdu kouknout a říct ti, jestli je to vůbec rankable a jestli to budu moddovat.
15:23 Wafu: no..
15:23 Wafu: Jak to říct
15:25 Wafu: Byly tam občas fakt tragické chyby, ale dá se to opravit. Každopádně, jestli chceš ten mod, udělám to, ale přes IRC a pak dám Chat log na fórum a můžeš dostat +SP. Okay?
15:25 Pjecoo: Okay..
15:27 Pjecoo: Co chceš za to namodovat?
15:27 Wafu: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/111686
15:28 Wafu: Je to v graveyardu, ale to pak hodím do pendingu.
15:29 Pjecoo: No ok.
15:29 Wafu: Okay, můžu začít?
15:29 Pjecoo: No ok
15:30 Wafu: Začnu advancem, tu lehčí obtížnost pak proberu kdyžtak s Bakarim.
15:30 Pjecoo: Jj
15:31 Wafu: Buď sniž CS o 1 nebo seřvi Bakariho, ať na té jeho obtížnosti o CS o 1 zvýší. 3 stupně rozdíl mezi 2 obtížnostma je fakt hodně.
15:36 Wafu: Uhm? Jsi afk
15:36 Wafu: *?
15:37 Pjecoo: Ne..
15:37 Pjecoo: Já čekám na další
15:37 Pjecoo: Nebudu pořád spamovat typu "Ok"
15:38 Wafu: Pak je tu problém, že nevím, jestli si to opravil :D No, když to opravíš, nemusíš nic psát, když ne, napiš a nejlépe i důvod.
15:38 Pjecoo: Ok...budu to tedy opravovat...
15:38 Pjecoo: Ale prvně řeknu Bakarimu ať navýší CS
15:39 Wafu: Jj
15:39 Pjecoo: No můžeš pokračovat
15:41 Wafu: Nechápu, proč na ~60 BPM a ještě k tomu tiché mapě je 55-85 volume. Sniž všechny 55 na 35 a všechny 85 tak na 55, 60 nebo 65. Opravdu to trhá uši, mám takový pocit, že Bakari to má o dost tišší, jeho obtížnost se mi hrála totiž líp.
15:42 Pjecoo: Při Kiai to nejde ale slyšet. Leda bych to ztišil jen tak u toho začátku a u té druhé sloky
15:44 Wafu: Uhm.. máš nejspíš špatně nastavenou hlasitost, já slyším těch 55% v kiai naprosto perfektně, resp, i tak je to podle mě příliš nahlas.
15:44 Pjecoo: Ok..fixed.
15:44 Pjecoo: 35 & 60
15:46 Wafu: Pak tady máš chybu v storyboardu, docela velkou
15:47 Wafu: Cutie001 - špatné umístění, kousek obrazu je mimo
15:47 Pjecoo: Je pravda že ze storyboardem neumím ... tohle to je můj druhý pokus..
15:47 Pjecoo: V čem je háček?
15:47 Wafu: Posuň to víc doleva. Když si mapu zahraješ, jde tam vidět čára, resp. konec obrázku, přitom napravo je ten obrázek kousek skrytý.
15:49 Pjecoo: Asi to roztáhnu trochu
15:49 Wafu: http://puu.sh/7g8JV.jpg Tím myslím, ať to posuneš na tu lajnu, co je kousek napravo od okraje obrázku. Asi sis myslel, že to máš na té lajně, která ukazuje, co všechno vidíš, ale ta je kousek vedle toho.
15:51 Pjecoo: Hmm..posunul jsem ji na tu lajnu. Ale teď je ta čára větší..
15:51 Wafu: jo, máš to nějaké broken
15:51 Pjecoo: njn. 2. práce ze SB
15:51 Wafu: je mi to jasný no, zkusím ji opravit.
15:55 Wafu: nechápu, jak se to stalo, ale je to celé divné, bude to chvilku trvat.
15:56 Pjecoo: ok
15:59 Wafu: už je mi to jasné.. nejspíš
16:00 Pjecoo: Hmm?
16:00 Wafu: Něco zkusím, pak ti o tom řeknu
16:00 Pjecoo: ok
16:20 Wafu: okay, mám to :D
16:20 Pjecoo: Ok
16:21 Wafu: aha..
16:21 Wafu: tak nic
16:21 Pjecoo: :D
16:22 Pjecoo: Já jsem to roztáhl a posunul víc doleva. U mě to jede normálně..
16:22 Wafu: Co máš za rozlišení?
16:22 Pjecoo: 1366x768
16:22 Wafu: Hry nebo monitoru?
16:22 Pjecoo: Monitor
16:22 Wafu: a hry?
16:23 Pjecoo: Mám i větší ale PC mám v opravce
16:23 Pjecoo: Tak zatím valím na laptopu
16:23 Wafu: a rozlišení ve hře máš kolik?
16:23 Pjecoo: taky 1366x768
16:24 Wafu: Je to asi nějaký glitch, pak to ještě pořeším s někým jiným.
16:24 Pjecoo: No, ok..
16:24 Wafu: Teď budu moddovat už rovnou mapu.
16:25 Pjecoo: Ok :)
16:26 Wafu: 00:06:059 (3) - Hoď to na souřádnice 185;297 (ukazuje ti to hned nad možností New Combo), aby si vytvořil stack s 00:04:184 (1), vypadá to pak lépe při hraní a nepřekrývá se to divně.
16:28 Pjecoo: done
16:29 Wafu: 00:30:899 (2) - Buďme upřímní, je to hnusný nesymetrický slider. Bod uprostřed smaž a hoď tam nový, asi takhle: http://puu.sh/7gaNu.jpg
16:30 Wafu: 00:40:272 (3) - Hoď to na 189;228, stejný duvod jako u prvního circlu.
16:32 Wafu: 00:44:490 (1) - ^, 204;330. Bugujou se ti prostě stacky :D
16:32 Wafu: 00:48:240 (1) - ^
16:33 Pjecoo: Uhmm ohledně toho slideru
16:33 Wafu: 00:51:989 (1,2) - ^
16:33 Pjecoo: Vím že neumím udělat luxusní slidery, ale já bych ho tam takhle nechal.
16:34 Pjecoo: Víš, když ho udělam tak jak si mi to poslal
16:34 Pjecoo: Tak se mi pokazí DS.
16:34 Wafu: Nepokazí
16:34 Pjecoo: Nebudu to v tom nějak extra vrtat.
16:34 Pjecoo: Ok...tak ne
16:35 Pjecoo: Jdu opravovat stacky
16:35 Wafu: Začátek 276;320, prostřední bod 393;251 a konec 388;115. Úžasný slider a DS je pořád konstantní.
16:35 Pjecoo: Ok.
16:35 Pjecoo: Kde mám posunout tenhle 00:48:240 (1) -
16:35 Wafu: 453;98
16:35 Pjecoo: Vždy mi piš souřadnice..
16:35 Wafu: Ok
16:35 Wafu: Pak se zeptej na ty další
16:36 Pjecoo: Ok
16:37 Pjecoo: 00:51:989 (1,2) - ?
16:37 Pjecoo: Kde umístit?
16:40 Wafu: 00:52:927 (1,2,3,4) - Tohle mi propomělo 2010, kde se lidi na design srali. Zkus tohle http://puu.sh/7gbe1.jpg Souřadnice: 1 slider 291;206, prostředek 329;123, konec 278;48. Circle 183;38. Další slider začíná na 94;71, jinak jen zkopíruj a překlop ten předchozí. A poslední circle 185;283
16:40 Wafu: 00:51:989 (1,2) - oba dva na 134;250
16:41 Pjecoo: Ok.
16:41 Pjecoo: Potřeboval bych pak nějaké dobré hitsoundy...:/
16:41 Wafu: Okay, pak ti nějaké dám z mojí sbírky, ale první to domodduju :D
16:42 Pjecoo: Ok Ok
16:42 Wafu: 01:21:985 (4) - Může to nechat, ale nevím, co se některým mapperům na takových sliderech líbí, každopádně nějaká velká chyba to není.
16:44 Wafu: 01:37:686 (5) - Tady to hoď na 398;112, zase stack :)
16:44 Pjecoo: Ok...mmnt
16:44 Pjecoo: Uhmm
16:44 Pjecoo: U těch 4. věcí
16:44 Pjecoo: Cos říkal o tom designu
16:45 Pjecoo: Umístim to jinde, slider se mi zkrátí
16:45 Pjecoo: WTF.
16:45 Wafu: Klikni na ten slider a potáhni ho za celé tělo, ne za začátek nebo konec.
16:46 Wafu: Kdyby ti to nešlo, tak ti to pak můžu opravit a poslat .osu soubor až to uploadaneš
16:46 Pjecoo: Ok.
16:46 Pjecoo: Jaj nejde to. :(
16:47 Pjecoo: Vrhnu se na to další
16:47 Wafu: tak to pořešíme na konci
16:47 Pjecoo: Ok
16:50 Wafu: 01:37:920 (1) - Tady na tomhle se shodnu s jakýmkoliv mapperem, že je to blbost. Slider by měl končit na 01:38:857 - protože tam končí v songu. Jestli se ti zdeformuje tvar, vymaž prostřední bod a dej tam nový, může to vypadat třeba takhle. http://puu.sh/7gbQf.jpg
16:50 Pjecoo: Jo, teďka jsem si toho všiml
16:50 Pjecoo: Anyways, jdu to opravit.
16:50 Wafu: j
16:51 Pjecoo: Ok fixed.
16:52 Wafu: 01:39:795 (3) - Tady tohle je stejný problém, o kterém jsem mluvil předtím, není to chyba, ale vypadá to hnusně, zvolil bych tradiční tvar, nebo klidně s redpointem, ale ať to vypadá tak nějak propracovaně. Není to nic proti pravidlum, ale udělal bych to pro ten design.
16:54 Pjecoo: No pokusím se.
16:55 Wafu: 01:44:013 (4) - Dej to na 103;278, stack.
16:57 Pjecoo: Goddangit tak ten slider jsem si dosti rozjedabl }:(
16:58 Pjecoo: Tady tohle 01:49:637 (5) - 93;330 pokud se nemýlim
16:59 Wafu: 01:51:980 (1,2,3,1) - Tady tohle je uprímně jedna z nejhorších věcí, co může mapper udělat. Variabilní stacky. 01:51:980 (1) - hoď na 413;38 a 01:52:332 (2,3,1) - naházej všechny na stejné místo a to 329;17. Možná se to nezdá, ale u toho se missuje snad nejčastěji.
17:00 Wafu: U toho 01:49:637 (5) - si nejsem jistý, jestli ten slider byl tak jak ho mám.. podívám se :D
17:01 Pjecoo: Budu ještě potřebovat vědět...
17:01 Pjecoo: Jak se dá udělat hitsound uprostřed slideru?
17:02 Wafu: Jo.. už to vidím, cirlce je v pohodě, ten nech jak je, ale konec slideru hoď na 59;187, není totiž uprostřed toho circlu co je spojený se sliderem :D
17:03 Wafu: Hitsound uprostřed slideru neuděláš, pokud nezvýšíš Slider Tick Rate a nedáš si vlastní hitsound pro sliderticky.
17:03 Pjecoo: Ahá...Okay.
17:04 Wafu: 02:01:588 (5) - Tohle bych řekl, že je zbytečný circle, nesedí to ke zbytku mapy tím, že si to nikde neudělal.
17:04 Wafu: Takže bych to smazal
17:05 Wafu: 02:10:259 (6) - To hoď na 420;322, zase stack.
17:05 Wafu: 02:14:477 (5) - ^ 325;112
17:05 Pjecoo: 01:50:106 (6) - mmnt menší fail ne? jak ho mám hodit na 59;187?
17:06 Wafu: Máš špatný slider, ten jsem nepsal
17:06 Pjecoo: Jo aha..
17:07 Wafu: Někdy to ale hodí na špatný slider, takže nejlépe ještě kontrolovat podle času :D
17:07 Pjecoo: Ok
17:10 Pjecoo: OK done.
17:11 Pjecoo: Teď ty hitsoundy..popř. kde a kdy umístit
17:11 Wafu: Ještě jsem se chtěl zeptat, pochopil si, proč změnit 01:52:332 (2,3,1) a proč to nedělat?
17:12 Pjecoo: Protože na tom se dělá nejvíc chyb?
17:12 Wafu: No, tak nějak, takže okay :D
17:14 Wafu: Teď ještě k nastavení mapy, do tagů bych určitě hodil DreamWorks a v Source oprav II na 2, protože oficiálně byl vydaný bez římské číslice.
17:14 Pjecoo: Ok
17:15 Wafu: A teď ty hitsoundy
17:15 Pjecoo: To se mění nějak přes custom nemýlim-li se..
17:15 Pjecoo: Custom Overrides
17:16 Wafu: Nevím, jestli to nebude moc kruté, ale hitsoundy bych smazal a udělal znovu.
17:17 Wafu: Jestli mapu updatneš, můžu ti ukázat, jak by to asi mělo vypadat, hitsoundy jsou u mě za pár minut a mohl bys je i použít.
17:18 Pjecoo: Ok..
17:18 Pjecoo: Jdu to updatnout ... popř. ještě fixnout slidery
17:18 Wafu: jj
17:20 Pjecoo: Done
17:21 Pjecoo: Nj..pán si jede jiné bomby. 6 Ranked Maps :D
17:21 Pjecoo: cg
17:21 Wafu: Jo.. pokud jde o 00:52:927 (1,2,3,4), to, co ti nešlo, mám ti to teda opravit?
17:21 Pjecoo: jj
17:22 Wafu: 6 Ranked map není moc. Ale na čecha jo, protože zatím žádný jiný mapu neranknul, tuhle bych klidně viděl ranked, ale chce to trošku poupravit.
17:22 Pjecoo: Tjn.
17:24 Pjecoo: Měl jsem pár lekcí u grumda. Ten mě pár věcí naučil. Pak jsem narazil na Bakariho & Asphyxiu. Ti mi pomohli s pojmama a taky nějak tu mapu vylepšit.
17:24 Pjecoo: No nic. Připisuju si tam i tebe :D
17:25 Wafu: Haha :D Přesně jsem si myslel, že tě něco učil grumd.
17:26 Pjecoo: On má ve zvyku dělat takovéhle slidery...
17:27 Wafu: 01:26:672 (4,5,6,7,8) - Klasický grumdův styl :D
17:27 Wafu: Tady u toho jsem si řekl, kurva, on mappuje něco jak grumd :D
17:27 Pjecoo: :D
17:27 Pjecoo: Aha :D
17:28 Pjecoo: Twl mapovat jako Blue Dragon . tpč. Bych jel Lapfoxy pořád :D
17:28 Wafu: to mi ani neříkej
17:28 Pjecoo: 01:39:795 (3) - Tento slider jsem pokurvil - kdyžtak ho fixni ;)
17:30 Wafu: Když jsem začínal s mapováním, poslal jsem kámošovi jednu Renard mapu, myslel si, že to mappovat BD.
17:31 Pjecoo: Aha...nechtěj v životě vidět mou první beatmapu *facepalm*
17:31 Pjecoo: To by určitě nebyla jen ranked ale i approved :D
17:32 Wafu: Nechtěj vidět mojí první mapu. Měl jsem tam random timing a noty jsem pokládat třeba v 1/12, aby to sedělo ...
17:32 Pjecoo: Nejlepší :D
17:33 Pjecoo: Ta moje neseděla do rytmu. Byla to pomalá songa...BPM 500+ a slidery přes obrazovku + tečky všude
17:33 Pjecoo: :D
17:44 Wafu: okay, hitsoundy mám, teď ještě nějaké custom hitsoundy a bude to
17:44 Wafu: Trochu jsem se zpozdil, protože mě někdo otravuje a pak jsme se ještě trochu zakecali :D
17:45 Pjecoo: OK vph
17:58 Wafu: Jo.. a našel jsem další chybu na 01:51:980, samozřejmě i opravil, je to 1/16 nota, v hudbě to hraje dřív než na 1/1 notě, takže proto.
17:59 Pjecoo: Ok..
18:00 Pjecoo: Potřebuju pak help na fix
18:00 Pjecoo: Nevím přesně co znamená "Uninherted Timing Points"
18:00 Pjecoo: Jakože vím že to bude něco s časovýma bodama...Ale přesně co s nima?
18:01 Wafu: Kdo ti o tom řekl nebo kde si o tom četl?
18:01 Pjecoo: Podívej se na Beatmap Thread
18:02 Pjecoo: Najdi si Fycho
18:04 Wafu: Myslel asi, že kiai je jiné v každé obtížnosti, nevím, jak jinak to pochopit.
18:04 Pjecoo: To nikdo neví twl D:
18:05 Pjecoo: A tak nic..
18:05 Wafu: Každopádně koukni na to http://puu.sh/7gfTU.rar
18:05 Wafu: Dal jsem tam custom clap a předělal všechny hitsoundy tak, aby byly konzistentní a zároveň seděly do hudby.
18:05 Pjecoo: Thx
18:06 Wafu: Můžeš to klidně updatnout a nemusíš dávat ani nějaký credit za hitsoundy, beru to pořád jako mod.
18:06 Pjecoo: Ok.
18:06 Pjecoo: Ti dám kudosu ofc.
IRC Modded

Changes:
Fixed some stacks
Fixed way too high volume
Remade some not-fitting sliders and non-symmetric ones
Fixed placement issue where the stack was having variable rhythm and was easy to break the combo
Remade whole hitsounds on Advanced difficulty
spaikz
9 posts
Joined August 2013
spaikz
This will be my first mod ever, also i'm not a frequent user of the forum, so this post might look a little messy :oops:

General
I don't really play all that much easy/normal beatmap's so there is only so much i can say.
^ = Same as what i said previously


Beginner
Spacing
00:09:808 (2,3) - Might be a little too close to eachother
00:22:931 (1,2) - Too far apart (might be on purpose)

Other stuff
01:30:420 (1,2) - Can be blanketed better
Looks good, i like curvy sliders \:D/


Advanced
Spacing
00:18:244 (5,1) - A little too close to eachother
00:27:149 (2,3) - ^
01:20:579 (2,3) - ^
01:33:233 (3,1) - ^
01:44:013 (4,5) - ^
02:01:823 (5,6) - ^
01:46:356 (1,2,3,4) - Are all stacked at diffrent distances, maybe use 1,0x for all
00:52:458 (2,1) - Jump might be too large, maybe use 1,5x as you did here 00:37:460 (5,1) -
01:37:686 (5,1) - ^
01:21:985 (4,5,6) - Not spaced out evenly, consider placing 01:22:922 (6) - one gridcell up
01:29:484 (8,1) - This sudden change in spacing feels a bit weird, maybe stack them on top of eachother
01:59:011 (1,2,3) - The spacing is off at these 3 notes (If that was intentional then make 01:59:948 (3,4) - the same distance as 01:59:479 (2,3) - )
02:04:635 (1,2,3) - Use the same spacing as with 01:21:985 (4,5,6) - Or the other way around, just use one consistent spacing for triples

Other stuff
00:24:337 (3) - Place it a bit to the left, that looks better imo
00:45:428 (3) - Rotate by about 10 degrees
01:19:641 (1,2) - These would look better if they're less arched, something like this: (old+new slider) http://puu.sh/7zcLB.jpg
01:39:795 (3) - Maybe make this a blanket of 01:39:326 (2) -
01:42:607 (2,3,4) - This part feels a bit weird to me, the two sliders are too close and personally i wouldn't let 2 and 3 overlap, maybe make it like this http://puu.sh/7zaKf.jpg
02:00:417 (4) - I'd like to see a little more curces in long sliders like that, but that's just my personal preferance

Thanks again for modding my map ;)
Modding is fun, might even do it again sometimes :)
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

spaikz wrote:

This will be my first mod ever, also i'm not a frequent user of the forum, so this post might look a little messy :oops:

General
I don't really play all that much easy/normal beatmap's so there is only so much i can say.
^ = Same as what i said previously


Beginner
Spacing
00:09:808 (2,3) - Might be a little too close to eachother - okay
00:22:931 (1,2) - Too far apart (might be on purpose) - yes, this is on purpose

Other stuff
01:30:420 (1,2) - Can be blanketed better
Looks good, i like curvy sliders \:D/


Advanced
Spacing
00:18:244 (5,1) - A little too close to eachother - fixed
00:27:149 (2,3) - ^ - fixed
01:20:579 (2,3) - ^ - fixed
01:33:233 (3,1) - ^ - I'd like to have it like it is...
01:44:013 (4,5) - ^ - Same here
02:01:823 (5,6) - ^ - fixed
01:46:356 (1,2,3,4) - Are all stacked at diffrent distances, maybe use 1,0x for all - Nope, sorry
00:52:458 (2,1) - Jump might be too large, maybe use 1,5x as you did here 00:37:460 (5,1) - Well, it isn't too large imo.
01:37:686 (5,1) - ^ - What? This isn't so large jump...
01:21:985 (4,5,6) - Not spaced out evenly, consider placing 01:22:922 (6) - one gridcell up - I'd like to have it like this...
01:29:484 (8,1) - This sudden change in spacing feels a bit weird, maybe stack them on top of eachother - I think that's bad idea, only thing I did is that I moved (8) little bit closer to (7), it looks better...
01:59:011 (1,2,3) - The spacing is off at these 3 notes (If that was intentional then make 01:59:948 (3,4) - the same distance as 01:59:479 (2,3) - ) - fixed (somehow)
02:04:635 (1,2,3) - Use the same spacing as with 01:21:985 (4,5,6) - Or the other way around, just use one consistent spacing for triples - It looks bad imo.

Other stuff
00:24:337 (3) - Place it a bit to the left, that looks better imo - Okay..
00:45:428 (3) - Rotate by about 10 degrees - Fixed.
01:19:641 (1,2) - These would look better if they're less arched, something like this: (old+new slider) http://puu.sh/7zcLB.jpg - I like them how it is...
01:39:795 (3) - Maybe make this a blanket of 01:39:326 (2) -
01:42:607 (2,3,4) - This part feels a bit weird to me, the two sliders are too close and personally i wouldn't let 2 and 3 overlap, maybe make it like this http://puu.sh/7zaKf.jpg - Nope, sorry.
02:00:417 (4) - I'd like to see a little more curces in long sliders like that, but that's just my personal preferance - I know, but I don't want to mess up timing.

Thanks again for modding my map ;) - No problem. Thank you too.
Modding is fun, might even do it again sometimes :)
WingSilent
2,982 posts
Joined August 2012
WingSilent


I know I am very late for this M4M but i finally have a bt of time to take care of this map. :)

General : Offset 420 ? Also BPM is 64,01, is it normal ? but I heard that it doesn't kill the song rythm, so you can keep it like that if you want.

Beginner

Check AImod, you have somes spacing issues. In an Easy diff, this is not realy good.

00:07:933 (1,2) - Blanket ?
00:11:683 (3) - Maybe you can improve a bit this slider's form..?
00:41:678 (3) - ^
01:26:671 (3,4) - Improve a little bit this blanket ?
02:00:416 (1,2) - ^

Advanced

CS4 please.

01:22:688 (5,6) - The spacing between theses 2 notes is inconsistent.
01:37:451 (4,5,1) - ^
01:54:324 (3) - Find another form maybe.. this one looks weird. :(
02:15:414 (1) - Such a long spinner, try reducing its lenght, keep mapping. :)

This map is cool to play for beginners especially, but not that bad, and i need to ask, is it your first map ?

Keep mapping and you'll learn a lot more. But i personally like how you started.
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy

Lumina wrote:



Beginner

Check AImod, you have somes spacing issues. In an Easy diff, this is not realy good.

00:07:933 (1,2) - Blanket ? why? It doesn't look good here and conflicts with my flow :(
00:11:683 (3) - Maybe you can improve a bit this slider's form..? If only you could tell what's wrong with the current one
00:41:678 (3) - ^ ^
01:26:671 (3,4) - Improve a little bit this blanket ? sure
02:00:416 (1,2) - ^ yeah
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wcx19911123
3,862 posts
Joined June 2010
wcx19911123
from my queue

[General]
red timing sections are not the same in both diffs

[Beginner]
00:11:683 (3,4) - they can blanket better
01:01:362 - 01:07:924 - music here is really quiet, those claps sounds a bit odd to me, maybe remove them? would sounds better imo
01:30:420 (1,2) - can blanket better here
the last spinner should start a bit later, if you want to follow the song accurately

[Advanced]
you can add some whistle to follow the song, at the diff's starting. the current hitsound is a bit boring imo
00:15:901 - 00:30:430 - the sliderslide doesn't work for this part? I'm not sure it's a bug or a mistake of the diff, just saying
00:17:776 (4,5,1) - wrong spacing here, the spacing don't fit the song imo
00:25:743 (1,2,3) - ^, this one is a bit better than previous one but still not that fit here imo
00:37:460 (5,1) - the jump is too big here, I suggest to use normal spacing or max 1.2x spacing
00:52:458 (2,1) - but this one is acceptable, cuz the beat at 00:52:927 - is heavy enough, the jump fits it
00:52:927 (1,2,3) - make the spacing regular please, current pattern looks not that good
01:19:641 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the spacing is a bit mess here, why not use normal spacing for single object and use smaller but same spacing or the stream?
01:29:484 (8,1) - this anti-jump make me feel weird, it doesn't fit the song at all imo. normal spacing or stack, either is better
01:37:686 (5,1) - add jump here is fine, but the current one is too huge.. and confusing to read the rhythm because the distance gap is same but time gap is not. I suggest you change a pattern here
01:42:607 (2,3) - 01:46:356 (1,2) - 01:50:106 (6,7) - I really hope you can make the spacing more regular..
the diff is full of spacing issues, I don't know if they were made on purpose or not, but most of them don't fit the song. I didn't point all spacing issues out but hope you can check them carefully and fix them by yourself

relax song :3
good luck
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
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Fixed everything except for the hitsound, to be honest, I quite like the way how they sound now. Sorry.
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem
Fixed all those things you mentioned, except spacing at the 2nd refrain. Yes, this is on purpose.
Anyways, thank you for modding :)
Haneure
47 posts
Joined November 2013
Haneure
From my modding queue~

Everything I say are all suggestions, please keep that in mind!


Just to start with, I feel like the offset is a little bit late on the beat...? It especially shows in the latter half of the song, when the drums accentuate the beats and the circles hit a tad late... at least to me q-q

Try using...

BPM = 64.00

Offset = 390 :oops:

If the above doesn't sound as accurate to you, feel free to not use it @_@ S'all gud~

Beginner

  • 01:36:025 (4) - Maybe move this to the head of this slider that starts at 01:30:400 (1) for a slightly neater blanket?

    02:20:556 (1) - I would suggest moving the start of this spinner to 02:21:025 to start with the voice and make it end at 02:21:025 (1) .. :o Preferably with no hitsound or a very quiet whistle :D
Advanced

Hmm, just from the get-go, it looks like the spacing changes a little bit throughout the song O.o Might want to consider making those more consistent with each other maybe?

  • 00:13:558 (3) - Add a whistle on the head and tail of this slider? :)

    00:19:650 (2) - Remove this slider and take the slider at 00:21:525 (4) and Ctrl+H to make a more symmetrical look?
    Like this?

    00:22:931 (1) - I would suggest putting the head of this slider at the same location of where 00:21:056 (3) was for a slightly neater layout? :3

    00:25:743 (1) - Remove whistle o:

    00:33:242 (4) - Remove whistle o3o

    00:33:711 (5) - ^ ...

    00:46:365 (4) - It's just couple of nazi pixels off to the right from being symmetrical with 00:45:428 (3), but... QQ that pixel... Try taking the slider at 00:45:428 (3) and flipping it vertically instead at where 00:46:365 (4) is...? For a neater look :( Of course it'd mean adjusting the spot where 00:48:240 (1) is, but I think it'd look a bit cleaner... :o

    01:31:827 (2) - I think it would sound better if you moved this to 01:32:296 (2) O:

    01:33:233 (3) - Move to 01:33:702 (3) to match with the suggestion above ^
Such a soothing song :D

Good luck with this map! Pretty nice ^_^
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
Can you, please, fix the spinner for me? I don't feel like moving the circle because that'd look really weird and hurt my flow a bit. @Pjecoo

Thank you for your mod! :)
Want 2 Buy Avon
264 posts
Joined February 2014
Want 2 Buy Avon
Hi Hi, here to mod cause you pmed me ^^ I'm not the best at modding non-insanes but I'll try my best :3
Beginner
00:22:931 (1) - you could blanket the 6 better with this
00:45:427 (1) - blanket the 4 better
01:13:548 (4) - you could blanket 3's slider end a little bit better
01:38:857 (2) - you might be able to blanket the 3 but I'm not sure

Overall the map is really nice, there were a couple overlaps that I noticed that I would usually say to fix but I get that it's because of the DS.
one last thing is that this 01:14:954 (5) - I'm pretty sure that easys don't usually use notes on red ticks but I think it should be fine

Advanced
00:15:901 (2,3) - I think the whistle hitsounds here sound weird
(ok so I'm noticing that you have whistles on a lot of sliders and I feel like it's being overused)
01:21:985 (4) - this slider looks a little strange to me, the shape is kinda meh
01:30:421 (1) - I think the curve on this is a tad harsh cause of the song
01:37:451 (4,5,1) - I would stack the two notes on the slider end
01:43:310 (3) - this feels weird cause you were using singles for triples and stuff till now and now it's a kick slider, I'd put singles to keep the map consistent
01:47:059 (2) - same thing maybe
01:51:922 (1,2,3,1) - these notes aren't on any ticks at all, snap them onto the right ticks ( I looked in 1/8 and saw them on ticks there, it feels weird to me xD)
01:58:308 (6) - same thing as before
02:15:414 (1) - it feels weird that in the other diff you mapped till the end and had this spinner later than this diff

Overall I like it but at the same time find this difficulty weird where it's kinda in between a normal and hard. The thing I said about the kick sliders I realize you started using them a couple times but I'd still say to make them singles.

Hope I helped some \(>w<)/ good luck with the map ^^
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
Notes on the red ticks are fine due to extremely low BPM, 01:38:857 (2) - isn't meant to be a blanketing-pattern and making a blannket here would hurt my flow. Anything else was applied, thank you!

code
osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 52695
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.9
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:I Need Some Sleep
TitleUnicode:I Need Some Sleep
Artist:Eels
ArtistUnicode:Eels
Creator:Pjecoo
Version:Beginner
Source:Shrek 2
Tags:-Bakari- slow DreamWorks Mark Oliver Everett
BeatmapID:369794
BeatmapSetID:149667

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:1
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:1
ApproachRate:2
SliderMultiplier:1.3
SliderTickRate:2

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Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Xellie wrote:

Advanced
00:15:901 (2,3) - I think the whistle hitsounds here sound weird
(ok so I'm noticing that you have whistles on a lot of sliders and I feel like it's being overused) Ok, fixed.
01:21:985 (4) - this slider looks a little strange to me, the shape is kinda meh LOL. I didn't know that I had this slider in this kind of shape. Fixed
01:30:421 (1) - I think the curve on this is a tad harsh cause of the song Fixed.
01:37:451 (4,5,1) - I would stack the two notes on the slider end Nope, sorry.
01:43:310 (3) - this feels weird cause you were using singles for triples and stuff till now and now it's a kick slider, I'd put singles to keep the map consistent
01:47:059 (2) - same thing maybe I had it on triples before, but I changed it into this, 'cause is better imo.
01:51:922 (1,2,3,1) - these notes aren't on any ticks at all, snap them onto the right ticks ( I looked in 1/8 and saw them on ticks there, it feels weird to me xD) I know, in this part, the timing of the song is irregular, I tried my best to do it like it is now.
01:58:308 (6) - same thing as before
02:15:414 (1) - it feels weird that in the other diff you mapped till the end and had this spinner later than this diff

Overall I like it but at the same time find this difficulty weird where it's kinda in between a normal and hard. The thing I said about the kick sliders I realize you started using them a couple times but I'd still say to make them singles.

Hope I helped some \(>w<)/ good luck with the map ^^ Thank you!
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
Hello

as requested

General:
delete SB\Thumbs.db
SB\Lyrics\sb.png is not used delete it or use (:

Advanced:
I'll go for general things here instead of detailed mod because i think map lacks some really core stuff.
1. Slow maps require more aesthetic part than fast ones, so you must be careful
*with slider shapes, e.g. 00:18:244 (5) is rough
*with variety you doing, e.g. 00:22:931 (1,3) - look at this transition in shapes, not nazi just bad
2. Flow
*watch you flow 00:22:931 (1) - 00:37:460 (5) - 15 seconds just clockwise flow
*00:44:490 (1,2,3) - thing like http://puu.sh/aqe07/5c14c99654.jpg check t/86329
3. Hitsounding
*just soft whistle ever white tick is quite boring
4. Difficulty
*I see a lot of potential in this song to have at least 2.5+/3+ stars diff, you should think about mapping/adjusting diff

You may try to contact -Bakari- to consult deeper about things i mentioned it seems he's interested in this mapset. Or ask me if you want.

Wish you best of luck with this.
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
Because I modded it a long time ago, i had to re-mod it. We fixed some issues with sliders and repeats ending on downbeats, improved some patterns and shapes and also fixed unsnapped timing points on spinners. Additionally, for some reason, spinner on Beginner diff had unsnapped end, so it is fixed too.
Akami-
8 posts
Joined December 2013
Akami-
Hi, as requested. ^^
I'm not good at modding so dont take it seriously. :D

Begginer:
00:52:926 (1) - 01:00:894 - Kiai
01:37:919 - 02:04:165 (3) - Kiai

Advanced:
02:15:414 (1) - You can do something different than spinner IMO. ^^
02:21:273 - Start spinner here.

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Hope this will help, if not sorry.
I tried do my best.
Good luck. ^^
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Akami- wrote:

Hi, as requested. ^^
I'm not good at modding so dont take it seriously. :D


Advanced:
02:15:414 (1) - You can do something different than spinner IMO. ^^ - Fixed.
02:21:273 - Start spinner here. - I moved it o 02:19:164 (1) -

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Hope this will help, if not sorry.
I tried do my best.
Good luck. ^^ - Thx.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
[SB]
  1. delete Thumbs.db from sb directory
  2. bottom side of lyrics images cutted https://puu.sh/emRiX/6ffcba7939.jpg :\
  3. seems like sb.png is unused
  4. huh, sb is not widescreen :/ I don't really see a reason to make simple sb without widescreen support now
[General]
  1. Timing is wrecked :\
  2. You can try this mp3 https://puu.sh/en25D/6eea46c4ed.mp3 it have one glitch but well...
    https://puu.sh/en2a3/af672699d8.png

[Beginner]
  1. HP 2 AR 3 OD 2 on easy for better spread also current settings in unreasonable low
  2. just minor suggestions to fix ds 00:15:432 (1,2) // 02:02:290 (2,3)
[Advanced]
  1. from 00:00:435 (1) to 00:23:869 (2) few 1/1 rhythm sliders will not hurt
    I have some 1/4 rhythm suggestions but doubt it can be done with current mp3\timing, so you should take care about this first then ask me to recheck alright, we did irc mod
Last edited by Sieg , edited 2 times in total.
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Sieg wrote:

[SB]
  1. bottom side of lyrics images cutted https://puu.sh/emRiX/6ffcba7939.jpg :\ - Miraculously I found old PSD so I fixed it.
  2. seems like sb.png is unused - Removed
  3. huh, sb is not widescreen :/ I don't really see a reason to make simple sb without widescreen support now -Fixed.
[General]
  1. Timing is wrecked :\
  2. You can try this mp3 https://puu.sh/en25D/6eea46c4ed.mp3 it have one glitch but well...
    https://puu.sh/en2a3/af672699d8.png - Fixed.

[Beginner]
  1. HP 2 AR 3 OD 2 on easy for better spread also current settings in unreasonable low - Fixed.
  2. just minor suggestions to fix ds 00:15:432 (1,2) // 02:02:290 (2,3) - Fixed.
[Advanced]
  1. from 00:00:435 (1) to 00:23:869 (2) few 1/1 rhythm sliders will not hurt - Added.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
recheck

find me ingame this was exhausting
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
Checking the SB to see if it's ready!

Well one thing that's very noticeable is that that you haven't removed the background and because you cover it up with a black background the SB load skyrockets up to a constant 4.0x
If you follow this guide(t/55177) You can remove it and then SB in your background at the end instead. Also because the default background when it's removed is black you won't need black.png

It's also a good idea to remove the transparency on pj.png baka.png and diff.png

Some of your backgrounds are slightly misplaced. Like cutie002 is placed 319,236 in the SB. Look at the osb and fix so they are at 320,240.


Yeah. these SB issues is a biit too much. I promise to re-bubble when you fixed them though.
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Xgor wrote:

Checking the SB to see if it's ready!

Well one thing that's very noticeable is that that you haven't removed the background and because you cover it up with a black background the SB load skyrockets up to a constant 4.0x
If you follow this guide(t/55177) You can remove it and then SB in your background at the end instead. Also because the default background when it's removed is black you won't need black.png - Fixed.

It's also a good idea to remove the transparency on pj.png baka.png and diff.png - Fixed.

Some of your backgrounds are slightly misplaced. Like cutie002 is placed 319,236 in the SB. Look at the osb and fix so they are at 320,240. - I checked the osb and all the backgrounds are already set at 320,240


Yeah. these SB issues is a biit too much. I promise to re-bubble when you fixed them though.
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
After checking that everything it seems ready for a re-bubble

Still for the BAT that looks as it next. Please make sure the timing is correct. The sliders at 00:26:532 (1) - and 01:18:999 (6) - gives me doubt about the timing but it seems correct otherwise.
Fycho
Global Moderator
2,486 posts
Joined August 2012
Fycho
Hello,

[Reasons for Popping]

  1. Your timing is wrong, this is a simple timing song which has one red lines, bpm is 64, offset=328. The other timing points is useless. For 00:26:578 (1) -, though inst is off, but the main soundtrack and the vocal are fine so no need to add redlines. And for01:19:078 -, drum and vocals are actually at ticks but you added a timing point that made it complicated.
  2. According to ranking criteria, There must not be any unnecessary transparency around storyboarded images, so crop and resize them as possible. 5.png, baka.png, diff.png and pj,png don’t meet this rule, please crop them.
  3. We usually don’t use album name as source. Ranking criteria writes: Only use the Source field if the song comes from or was made famous by a video game, movie, or series.
    So please move “Shrek 2” to tags

[Additional Modding]


~General~
  1. Remove Thumbs.db from folder.
  2. 00:15:328 –what’s the point to use fountain here? It's not a beat that very strong.
  3. Disable letterbox for all diffs( by fixing code in *.osu file)
~Beginner~
  1. 01:31:265 –I don’t recommend you use drum sampleset’s default sliderslide as “slidertick”, it doesn’t fit the music and it’s not the tend to use hitsounds. the sliderhitsound is a “hold” beat, which brings a bad feeling when playing
~Advanced~
  1. 00:30:328 –meaningless fountain, please remove it.
  2. 00:45:328 (1,2) –remove whistles in the sliders’ body, it’s not the tend to use hitsounds, and they sound a bit noisy.
  3. 00:50:015 (2) -^
  4. 01:15:796 (2,4) –Try to make them a same shape for better view
  5. 01:18:999 (6) –I think you miss a nc here, the combo up to10 which is too long for your diff
To be honest, placement and patterns of “Advanced diff” can be improved a lot, I suggest you get 2~3 mods then call me back for recheck, sorry for inconvience.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
do not change anything timing related
movie in the tags is fine also
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

Fycho wrote:

Hello, hi.

[Reasons for Popping]

  1. Your timing is wrong, this is a simple timing song which has one red lines, bpm is 64, offset=328. The other timing points is useless. For 00:26:578 (1) -, though inst is off, but the main soundtrack and the vocal are fine so no need to add redlines. And for01:19:078 -, drum and vocals are actually at ticks but you added a timing point that made it complicated. - As Sieg said, I won't do any changes to timing.
  2. According to ranking criteria, There must not be any unnecessary transparency around storyboarded images, so crop and resize them as possible. 5.png, baka.png, diff.png and pj,png don’t meet this rule, please crop them. - Meaningless for me, but if you insist. Cropped.
  3. We usually don’t use album name as source. Ranking criteria writes: Only use the Source field if the song comes from or was made famous by a video game, movie, or series.
    So please move “Shrek 2” to tags - Aha. Shrek 2 is a movie, not an album title.

[Additional Modding]


~General~
  1. Remove Thumbs.db from folder. - There is nothing there. Check it one more time. (I know it's a hidden file by Windows and I have activated opinion to see those hidden system files. Yes I checked everywhere.
  2. 00:15:328 –what’s the point to use fountain here? It's not a beat that very strong. - *sigh* ok. removed
  3. Disable letterbox for all diffs( by fixing code in *.osu file) - Fixed.
~Beginner~
  1. 01:31:265 –I don’t recommend you use drum sampleset’s default sliderslide as “slidertick”, it doesn’t fit the music and it’s not the tend to use hitsounds. the sliderhitsound is a “hold” beat, which brings a bad feeling when playing - I think it's okay for me. Well, it's not my diff so I need to wait what Bakari will say about this.
~Advanced~
  1. 00:30:328 –meaningless fountain, please remove it. - sure.
  2. 00:45:328 (1,2) –remove whistles in the sliders’ body, it’s not the tend to use hitsounds, and they sound a bit noisy. - well, ok.
  3. 00:50:015 (2) -^ - ^
  4. 01:15:796 (2,4) –Try to make them a same shape for better view - Well, i tried. Check it.
  5. 01:18:999 (6) –I think you miss a nc here, the combo up to10 which is too long for your diff - Fixed.
To be honest, placement and patterns of “Advanced diff” can be improved a lot, I suggest you get 2~3 mods then call me back for recheck, sorry for inconvience.
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
Didn't change the slidertick on my diff, it sounds well to me. Sorry.

thank you for checking, tho.
Fycho
Global Moderator
2,486 posts
Joined August 2012
Fycho
ah ok, timing is ok after some consult, I apologize for the rush pop and I realized it's meaningless to find more mods.

one more thing: remove sliderwhistle in advanced on: 00:49:078 (1) -
call me back when you are done.

Edit: Rebubbled.
Sieg
3,981 posts
Joined February 2012
Sieg
yay
Andrea
Beatmap Nominator
16,650 posts
Joined August 2008
Andrea
~Advanced~
  1. 01:58:218 (4,5) - There's a spacing mistake and it should be fixed.
Sorry to come here just for saying this, but I noticed it while playing. ;w;
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
meii18
Lemme check Andrea :3
Yes you're right ! It should be placed on x:160 y:288 because the player might be tangled . This spacing error must be fixed .
I'm afraid I should say !summon QAT
Nyukai
2,431 posts
Joined July 2012
Nyukai

Andrea wrote:

~Advanced~
  1. 01:58:218 (4,5) - There's a spacing mistake and it should be fixed.
Sorry to come here just for saying this, but I noticed it while playing. ;w;
I was going to say the same :(
riffy
osu! Alumni
8,061 posts
Joined December 2010
riffy
It's not an unrankable issue, I believe. Ad it's still quite readable, so I would leave it up to the mapper.

Please, do not apply any pressure on Pjecoo and let QAT decide.
Natsu
8,076 posts
Joined September 2012
Natsu
not unrankable, but is really confused to play:



I guess this have to be fixed, anyways that's the purpose of qualified category.
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
meii18

Natsu wrote:

not unrankable, but is really confused to play:



I guess this have to be fixed, anyways that's the purpose of qualified category.
Well it should be because the player might be tangled . Is not a unrankable issue but must be fixed :?
p3n
Global Moderator
947 posts
Joined June 2009
p3n

Disqualification reason:

Natsu wrote:

not unrankable, but is really confused to play:



I guess this have to be fixed, anyways that's the purpose of qualified category.
:(

01:58:218 (4,5) - spacing error. While this is usually not a reason to disqualify a map it is too obvious and disctracting in a slow map like this one.


Suggestions:

Please consider to redo your SB lyric and name files. Most of them clip the letters and/or shadow effects on the lower end of the sprite. You can avoid this by increasing the dimensions a bit and not crop to the basic font but the rasterized effect as well. Additionally you should add a 1px empty border around the whole sprite to avoid filtering artefacts.



This should be a really quick fix and a fast re-rank.
meii18
3,577 posts
Joined October 2013
meii18
I'm right ! 8-) I said it should be fixed so go ahead to rerank !
Mortem
694 posts
Joined July 2013
Topic Starter
Mortem

p3n wrote:

Disqualification reason:

Natsu wrote:

not unrankable, but is really confused to play:



I guess this have to be fixed, anyways that's the purpose of qualified category.
:(

01:58:218 (4,5) - spacing error. While this is usually not a reason to disqualify a map it is too obvious and disctracting in a slow map like this one.

- Fixed...
Nyukai
2,431 posts
Joined July 2012
Nyukai
You already told me to check this, poke me tomorrow unless you are in a rush :3u
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