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Shyotamaze

Joined December 2014

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Shyotamaze 2015-12-30T21:31:21+00:00

semanresu wrote:
00:42:758 (1) -> stream starts too early nah
01:44:644 (1) -> triple doesn't really go well with the background rhythm idk
01:50:087 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -> the sudden speed increase between the end of the first triple and the beginning of the second triple feels kinda akward to play, I would place them closer like you did with 01:48:072 (1,2,3,4,5,6) Fixed

Good luck and I hope this was usefull.

Thank you

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Video 2016-01-11T05:44:21+00:00

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Shyotamaze

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Shyotamaze 2016-01-11T15:08:56+00:00

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Yay thanks!

Finally moved the map to Pending

Intone

66 posts

Joined August 2014

Intone 2016-01-13T00:39:37+00:00

helloooo!!

General
- I think you need more diffs than the guest, in order for this map to be ranked. Possibly 1 more map that is yours? I'm not sure, talked to you about this in game, you said you would ask a BN.

[Insane]

00:24:415 (1) remove NC
00:37;272 (1,2,3,4) Instead of 2,3,4 I recommend just making this a repeat slider like (9). It will play much better, I think.
01:07:101 (1) collides a little with (4). Try moving it a little further down, along with whatever follows it.
02:12:403 (3) collides. Move a little to the right.
02:36:929 (1) this part is really weird. Consider changing to just circles.

All in all, cool map, but I think you should map some of the breaks. Specifically, the first one. Just do really long sliders to imitate the trumpet--It wouldn't really tire the player, instead it would give your map more flavor since there's sooo many streams and cut streams

[6th's Hard]
01:08:987 (1) (3) Make these straight down instead, I think it will look much nicer.
01:32:880 there's a really weird pretty long break here before the break even starts. I thought the map ended! Hmm...new audio version or a long spinner to show its not ending?

[Weegle's Normal]
01:44:644 (1) put this below the (2) to form a 1-2-3 ladder. Ofc this would mean moving the 2+3 higher. Also I recommend straight sliders (horizontal) for these three.
Your version seems to end earlier than the other versions...I think there is something in the ranked rules that says you have to end together at the same time.

[Shmiklak's Easy]
Double check your distance snapping. Near the end it seems to change a little. (Beginning overlaps a little more than the end does).

Cool map, I like the insane mode. Consider removing a few of the streams in favor of repeat sliders to lessen confusion/"overmapped feeling". Also I would map the middle break in all of the difficulties. It's still a break, just make it really easy--just some sliders.

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-01-13T01:50:53+00:00

Intone wrote:
helloooo!!

General
- I think you need more diffs than the guest, in order for this map to be ranked. Possibly 1 more map that is yours? I'm not sure, talked to you about this in game, you said you would ask a BN. Asked a BN (Natsu) and he told me that the actual diff spread is okay, it's just that one GDer can't have more difficulties than the owner of the map

[Insane]

00:24:415 (1) remove NC Fixed
00:37;272 (1,2,3,4) Instead of 2,3,4 I recommend just making this a repeat slider like (9). It will play much better, I think. Fixed
01:07:101 (1) collides a little with (4). Try moving it a little further down, along with whatever follows it. Fixed
02:12:403 (3) collides. Move a little to the right. Fixed
02:36:929 (1) this part is really weird. Consider changing to just circles. Fixed

All in all, cool map, but I think you should map some of the breaks. Specifically, the first one. Just do really long sliders to imitate the trumpet--It wouldn't really tire the player, instead it would give your map more flavor since there's sooo many streams and cut streams Hmm idk about this since there are already a lot of mapped breaks so I'll see

Cool map, I like the insane mode. Consider removing a few of the streams in favor of repeat sliders to lessen confusion/"overmapped feeling". Also I would map the middle break in all of the difficulties. It's still a break, just make it really easy--just some sliders.

Thank you!

Last edited by Shyotamaze 2016-01-13T15:16:01+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-01-13T02:19:20+00:00

Intone wrote:
helloooo!!

[Weegle's Normal]
01:44:644 (1) put this below the (2) to form a 1-2-3 ladder. Ofc this would mean moving the 2+3 higher. Also I recommend straight sliders (horizontal) for these three.
Your version seems to end earlier than the other versions...I think there is something in the ranked rules that says you have to end together at the same time. - oops, i extended it to match the other difficulties XD

Cool map, I like the insane mode. Consider removing a few of the streams in favor of repeat sliders to lessen confusion/"overmapped feeling". Also I would map the middle break in all of the difficulties. It's still a break, just make it really easy--just some sliders.

Thanks for the mod, I'll map the break if all the other difficulties agree on doing the same

UPDATED GD

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6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-01-13T18:02:14+00:00

SPOILER

[6th's Hard]
01:08:987 (1) (3) Make these straight down instead, I think it will look much nicer. Hmm thinking about it
01:32:880 there's a really weird pretty long break here before the break even starts. I thought the map ended! Hmm...new audio version or a long spinner to show its not ending? that would be overmapping :/

Thanks !

Poi Panda

87 posts

Joined July 2014

Poi Panda 2016-01-13T19:46:20+00:00

Hi!

Insane

01:39:844 (1,2,3) - These being spaced looks really weird when the other triple before it wasn't spaced.
02:37:158 (2) - Unsnapped note here

6th's Hard

00:24:758 (4,5,1,2) - I personally find this overlap slightly ugly, I'd move the 4 and 5 to someplace else for better flow and to make it look nicer.
00:31:272 (3) - I feel a slider would fit better here.
00:34:015 (3,4) - The 4 being directly under the 3 makes it hard to time properly, consider moving it.

Weegle's Normal

00:28:872 (7,1) - Position of the 1 really breaks the flow here. Consider moving the 6 and 7 so they flow into the 1, or changing the position of the 1.
00:44:129 (6,1) - The 6 looks very awkwardly placed, consider moving to (144,112)
02:13:444 (1,2,3,4) - The 4 looks very out of place, consider moving to make it look more in place.
02:37:272 (5,6) - I would place a slider here instead of the 2 single notes.

Shmiklak's Easy

No issues as far as I can see

Good mapset overall

. Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps! Good luck

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-01-13T22:18:23+00:00

PoisonPanda wrote:
6th's Hard
00:24:758 (4,5,1,2) - I personally find this overlap slightly ugly, I'd move the 4 and 5 to someplace else for better flow and to make it look nicer. Changed for the 3rd time. I hope it's fine now. ):
00:31:272 (3) - I feel a slider would fit better here.
00:34:015 (3,4) - The 4 being directly under the 3 makes it hard to time properly, consider moving it. Changed

Thank you !

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-01-14T00:08:33+00:00

PoisonPanda wrote:
Hi!

Insane
01:39:844 (1,2,3) - These being spaced looks really weird when the other triple before it wasn't spaced. Fixed
02:37:158 (2) - Unsnapped note here Fixed

6th's Hard
00:24:758 (4,5,1,2) - I personally find this overlap slightly ugly, I'd move the 4 and 5 to someplace else for better flow and to make it look nicer.
00:31:272 (3) - I feel a slider would fit better here.
00:34:015 (3,4) - The 4 being directly under the 3 makes it hard to time properly, consider moving it.

Weegle's Normal
00:28:872 (7,1) - Position of the 1 really breaks the flow here. Consider moving the 6 and 7 so they flow into the 1, or changing the position of the 1.
00:44:129 (6,1) - The 6 looks very awkwardly placed, consider moving to (144,112)
02:13:444 (1,2,3,4) - The 4 looks very out of place, consider moving to make it look more in place.
02:37:272 (5,6) - I would place a slider here instead of the 2 single notes.

Shmiklak's Easy
No issues as far as I can see

Good mapset overall . Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps! Good luck

EDIT: whoops forgot to say thanks to you

~~pls stay polite Shyo~~

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-01-15T05:03:49+00:00

PoisonPanda wrote:
Hi!

Weegle's Normal
00:28:872 (7,1) - Position of the 1 really breaks the flow here. Consider moving the 6 and 7 so they flow into the 1, or changing the position of the 1. - rearranged the notes for better flow
00:44:129 (6,1) - The 6 looks very awkwardly placed, consider moving to (144,112) - oops, must have been a misclick on my part, fixed the ugliness
02:13:444 (1,2,3,4) - The 4 looks very out of place, consider moving to make it look more in place. - i like how it looks, it zig-zags then makes a square (includes slider)
02:37:272 (5,6) - I would place a slider here instead of the 2 single notes. - suggestion taken, fixed

Good mapset overall . Apologies if I missed anything, hopefully this helps! Good luck

thanks for the mod :3

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I'll also try to keep updating this with the mods you get, but if i dont respond to a mod within a week, just pm me in-game or message me through the website

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-01-19T01:53:54+00:00

Yay! Finally hitsounded, thanks to Classwork

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-01-21T20:32:33+00:00

Update from website pm

changed the suggested note replacement at 01:17:215

updated shizzle

osu file format v14

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Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-01-30T20:14:10+00:00

Ughh, finding modders is hard af

@GDers sorry to make you wait, trying my best to get mods right now, ily

Jonarwhal

1,227 posts

Joined November 2013

Jonarwhal 2016-01-31T00:22:25+00:00

Shyotamaze wrote:
Ughh, finding modders is hard af

@GDers sorry to make you wait, trying my best to get mods right now, ily

I didn't forget about you~! NM request from my queue~

General

Normal has a lower slider velocity than Easy. Consider changing that.
There's too much of a difficulty gap between Normal and Hard. Consider making a difficulty between Normal and Hard.

Easy

00:20:987 (1,1) - Allow more time for the player to recover after the spinner.
00:27:844 (1) - Consider using the slider's red tick to emphasize 00:28:015 - here or 00:28:187 - here.
00:30:244 (4,1) - Unstack these. Example.
00:30:929 (2) - This looks messy. Make the points look like this "ϟ" or like this.
00:40:872 (6,1) - Fix the polarity. If you don't know what polarity is, check this.
01:03:501 (1,2) - These look too squished together. Spread it farther out.
01:08:301 (4,1) - ^
01:36:415 (1,2) - ^ I'll stop with that now.
01:40:187 (3,4,5) - This is too hard for Easy players to read. Consider changing the placement whenever you stack after one object in Easy.
01:41:901 (1,1) - Allow more time for the player to recover after the spinner.
01:49:787 (4,5) - Make this a slider so it's easier to play.
02:03:844 (1,2,3,4) - Fix blankets.
02:12:758 (2,3) - ^

Normal

Some parts seem too Hard for Normal, like putting two circles after a slider. In cases like this, it should just be a slider.
Other parts seem too Easy for Normal, like the Slider Velocity of x0.85.
Keep that in mind.
00:24:244 (3) - Don't break DS in Normal. DS is required for the most part in Normal.
00:25:101 (6) - Making this a curved slider would make the circular flow better.
00:27:158 (3) - ^
00:29:558 (2) - Move the bottom part left to help the flow to the next object.
00:48:415 (3) - Don't use double-repeating sliders. Some mappers think they look messy.
00:50:472 (3) - Move the left part up for better flow.
01:50:129 (1) - Make this more curvy for a better blanket.
01:57:329 (5,1,2) - This overlap can be avoided by moving 01:58:701 (2,3) - these downward.

Hard

I'm not sure whether you should make this easier and make it more like a Hard, or make it harder and make it an Insane.
If you're going to keep it as a Hard, 00:24:072 (2,3) - Don't make sliders that require going backwards after completing them, this is actually bad flow in any difficulty. I understand that you're trying to make a hard jump, but you can do that without hurting flow. Also, 00:24:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Don't use this many consecutive circles. I'm not going to point out every time I see these things.
Besides that:

01:05:730 (7,1) - Fix blanket.
01:06:930 (3,4) - ^
01:52:187 (7,8) - These shouldn't be touching.

And besides that, I actually really like this diff! ^^

Insane

So many streams and they all look so good ^^

00:29:558 (1,2,3) - Fix Triangle.
02:39:587 (1) - End the spinner on the white tick.

That's all~! I hope this helps. Good Luck~!

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-01-31T03:21:37+00:00

jonawaga wrote:
Shyotamaze wrote:
Ughh, finding modders is hard af

@GDers sorry to make you wait, trying my best to get mods right now, ily
I didn't forget about you~! NM request from my queue~ Yay!

General
Normal has a lower slider velocity than Easy. Consider changing that.
There's too much of a difficulty gap between Normal and Hard. Consider making a difficulty between Normal and Hard.
Insane
So many streams and they all look so good ^^
00:29:558 (1,2,3) - Fix Triangle. It is intended to not be a "real" triangle, it's more like a little "jump" but I'll see
02:39:587 (1) - End the spinner on the white tick. Fixed
That's all~! I hope this helps. Good Luck~!

Thank you!

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-01-31T20:07:05+00:00

SPOILER

I'm not sure whether you should make this easier and make it more like a Hard, or make it harder and make it an Insane.
If you're going to keep it as a Hard, 00:24:072 (2,3) - Don't make sliders that require going backwards after completing them, this is actually bad flow in any difficulty. I understand that you're trying to make a hard jump, but you can do that without hurting flow. Also, 00:24:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Don't use this many consecutive circles. I'm not going to point out every time I see these things.
Besides that:
01:05:730 (7,1) - Fix blanket.
01:06:930 (3,4) - ^
01:52:187 (7,8) - These shouldn't be touching.
And besides that, I actually really like this diff! ^^

just fixed all ! thanks

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-01-31T22:00:35+00:00

jonawaga wrote:
[General]
Normal has a lower slider velocity than Easy. Consider changing that. - up to 1.00 that is good for NM diffs
[Normal]
Some parts seem too Hard for Normal, like putting two circles after a slider. In cases like this, it should just be a slider. - fixed what i thought was too complex for NM diff
Other parts seem too Easy for Normal, like the Slider Velocity of x0.85. - fixed to 1.00
00:24:244 (3) - Don't break DS in Normal. DS is required for the most part in Normal. - patched up some messy DS sections
00:25:101 (6) - Making this a curved slider would make the circular flow better. - okay fix
00:27:158 (3) - ^ - ^
00:29:558 (2) - Move the bottom part left to help the flow to the next object. - good idea
00:48:415 (3) - Don't use double-repeating sliders. Some mappers think they look messy. - i agree for the most part but i think the beat makes a good exception for the use of a repeating slider
i also did go through the map and remove any unneeded repeating sliders
00:50:472 (3) - Move the left part up for better flow. - okay
01:50:129 (1) - Make this more curvy for a better blanket. - okay
01:57:329 (5,1,2) - This overlap can be avoided by moving 01:58:701 (2,3) - these downward. - I played around with the notes a bit and got it to my liking, thanks for suggestion
That's all~! I hope this helps. Good Luck~!

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,108 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-02-01T11:28:41+00:00

From my queue

1pc test play

[Insane]
00:26:987 (1) - NC off
01:53:558 (1) - ^
00:30:929 (1) - ^
00:32:987 (4) - ^
00:34:015 (3) - ^
01:56:301 (1) - ^
01:57:672 (1) - ^
02:11:387 (1) - ^
02:20:644 (1) - ^
02:28:187 (1) - ^
00:33:329 (1) - NC
01:55:958 (2) - ^
01:58:358 (6) - ^
02:04:187 (2) - ^
02:20:815 (2) - ^
00:36:758 (9,1) - make DS bigger, player will confused here
00:43:187 (6) - delete and add note at 00:43:187 - and 00:43:272 -
00:57:672 (2) - change to a straight line
01:35:815 (10) - should start at 01:35:901 - , like 01:41:301 (10,11) - here
02:04:187 (2) - overlap with 02:03:844 (1) -
02:03:844 (1) - triplet here, delete 02:07:015 (2) -
02:36:887 (1) - move to 02:36:929 -
02:37:158 (2) - to 02:37:158 (2) -
02:36:887 - no use green line
02:37:272 - ^

GL~

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-01T18:39:05+00:00

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
From my queue

1pc test play

[Insane]
00:26:987 (1) - NC off Fixed
01:53:558 (1) - ^ ^
00:30:929 (1) - ^ ^
00:32:987 (4) - ^ ^
00:34:015 (3) - ^ ^
01:56:301 (1) - ^ ^
01:57:672 (1) - ^ ^
02:11:387 (1) - ^ ^
02:20:644 (1) - ^ ^
02:28:187 (1) - ^ ^
00:33:329 (1) - NC ^
01:55:958 (2) - ^ ^
01:58:358 (6) - ^ ^
02:04:187 (2) - ^ ^
02:20:815 (2) - ^ Fine imo
00:36:758 (9,1) - make DS bigger, player will confused here Fixed
00:43:187 (6) - delete and add note at 00:43:187 - and 00:43:272 - Fixed
00:57:672 (2) - change to a straight line Changed a bit
01:35:815 (10) - should start at 01:35:901 - , like 01:41:301 (10,11) - here Fixed
02:04:187 (2) - overlap with 02:03:844 (1) - Did the opposite
02:03:844 (1) - triplet here, delete 02:07:015 (2) - Fine imo
02:36:887 (1) - move to 02:36:929 - Fixed
02:37:158 (2) - to 02:37:158 (2) - Huh? it's the same time, well, changed to 02:37:187
02:36:887 - no use green line Not sure about this, I'll see
02:37:272 - ^ ^

GL~

Thanks!

Puhehuhe

34 posts

Joined March 2015

Puhehuhe 2016-02-04T16:22:25+00:00

M4M the second half :3.

Shmik's Easy

01:14:987 (2) - Maybe no curve and horizontally flat
02:27:158 (3,4,1) - Flip the slider and mirror rest to the other side, better flow imo

Weegle's Normal

00:47:729 (2) - Curves up

6th's Hard

00:39:844 (4,1) - Curve (1) and move (4) so they won't collide
00:49:272 (6) - Lower this a little
01:28:358 (1) - Smoother spiral, little pointy curve at the start
02:21:672 (1) - Looks weird, why not end the slider on to 02:22:701 (3) - with less curve

Insane

00:32:301 (2) - Mirror to the right and with sharp curve maybe
01:57:672 (5) - End more higher
02:13:101 (5) - This feels out of place, prefer 02:10:701 (1) - style
02:28:529 (1) - NC
02:31:444 (2) - NC off

Cosmetic oriented mod, there were no really any big problems imo.
Good luck

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-04T17:37:32+00:00

Puhehuhe wrote:
M4M the second half :3.

Insane
00:32:301 (2) - Mirror to the right and with sharp curve maybe Fine imo
01:57:672 (5) - End more higher Fixed
02:13:101 (5) - This feels out of place, prefer 02:10:701 (1) - style Fixed
02:28:529 (1) - NC Fixed
02:31:444 (2) - NC off Fixed
Cosmetic oriented mod, there were no really any big problems imo.
Good luck

Thank you!

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-02-05T21:30:52+00:00

SPOILER

6th's Hard
00:39:844 (4,1) - Curve (1) and move (4) so they won't collide It was intended :/
00:49:272 (6) - Lower this a little
01:28:358 (1) - Smoother spiral, little pointy curve at the start
02:21:672 (1) - Looks weird, why not end the slider on to 02:22:701 (3) - with less curve Changed

Thank you !

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-02-05T21:44:12+00:00

thanks for the pm!

no updates to my map from that mod though >v<

SuperMIC

420 posts

Joined July 2011

SuperMIC 2016-02-06T21:36:26+00:00

queue

---

[Shmik's Easy]

01:40:529 (4) - new combo

completely clean otherwise

[Weegle's Normal]

This difficulty seems to be lacking in hitsounds. :S

00:38:815 (1,2,3) - Bad flow for a Normal. Should curve out at least a bit.

SPOILER

00:52:529 (1,2) - These can blanket better. (2) should curve less.

SPOILER

01:19:787 (5) - Just make this in line with (4). Try x:320 y:272
01:36:415 (5,6,7) - Spacing between (6) and (7) is inconsistent.
01:39:844 (2,6) - (2) should be stacked under the end of (6)
01:41:901 (1) - Should be facing the other direction:

SPOILER

01:57:329 (5,1) - (1) should be further from (5).
01:59:387 (3,4) - and (4) needs to be much closer to (3)
02:01:787 (3,4) - ^
02:19:958 (7,1) - (1) should be further from (7)
02:25:787 (3,4) - make parallel?

[6th's Hard]

I think the streams and 1/4 in the difficulty should be compressed, especially because the BPM is higher than average. I think the spacing at 00:36:758 (3,4,5) is perfect.

As in Normal, I think this difficulty needs more hitsounding, particularly during the first sections.

00:42:072 (2,3) - Make parallel?
01:07:272 (3) - Stack normally under (2).
01:22:872 (1,1) - These shapes can definitely be improved to look better.
01:28:358 (1) - This one is pretty good, but you should delete the anchor (red) point at make it curvy all the way around.
02:18:758 (4,5,1) - This should really form one straight line.
02:24:329 - Missed a beat here, add a circle?
02:24:844 - ^
02:26:815 (4,5,1) - Make this one straight line.
02:31:272 (1) - Try to make this perfectly symmetrical.

[Insane]

00:36:072 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - A lot of this stream does not exist in the music.

The 1/4 in this section is spaced interestingly, but I'd prefer if it was all spaced consistently unless there's some change in the music.

01:13:957 (7,1,2) - Should be spaced way further apart.
01:20:129 (1) - Slider shape can be improved, and I think it would play much more intuitively if this slider was extended so it starts on the long white tick
01:22:872 (1) - Can be improved. Blanket this carefully.
01:28:358 (1) - Doesn't look good.

The kiai section should space 1/2 further apart than it is; the music is fast but the map plays quite slowly.

01:59:129 - Missing note?
02:00:501 - ^

Regarding this section which I started outlining above, I understand you're mapping to the harpsichord but you really should fit in the drum line as well.

02:06:929 - Missing note

Again, this section feels like it should play much faster as an Insane. Needs higher spacing.

02:28:529 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Section needs to be cleaned up in terms of aesthetics. Slider shapes can be improved and slider overlap should really be avoided.

---

GL

-SMIC

agusch

152 posts

Joined January 2014

agusch 2016-02-07T01:21:57+00:00

Hello

Shmik's Easy

00:23:044 - Not really important but here u could made a blanket with the spinner >> for example http://puu.sh/mYpEj/00e844e648.jpg
00:26:987 - I would change that overlap
00:52:529 (1) - This have flow but in my opinion it could be better with ctrl+h
01:15:844 (3) - nice slider, I think that it could be better if u put corners in this ticks 01:16:187 - 01:16:529 -
01:54:244 (3) - same here

Weegle's Normal

01:41:558 (6) - I would made an overlap with that note and the end of this slider 01:39:844 (2) -
01:59:387 (3,4) - I don't know if this jump is okay in a normal diff

Insane

00:46:444 (5) - 02:13:701 (6) - 02:16:958 (5) - I would place this sliders in withe or red tick instead of blue tick, cause I start streaming with the index finger and need to change to middle finger.

That's all, I'm new to modding, I hope this help you.

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-07T19:18:06+00:00

SuperMICrophone wrote:
queue

---

[Insane]

00:36:072 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - A lot of this stream does not exist in the music. It may feel weird but it does exist, listen in 25%

The 1/4 in this section is spaced interestingly, but I'd prefer if it was all spaced consistently unless there's some change in the music. Fixed

01:13:957 (7,1,2) - Should be spaced way further apart. Fixed
01:20:129 (1) - Slider shape can be improved, and I think it would play much more intuitively if this slider was extended so it starts on the long white tick Fixed
01:22:872 (1) - Can be improved. Blanket this carefully. Fixed
01:28:358 (1) - Doesn't look good. Fixed

The kiai section should space 1/2 further apart than it is; the music is fast but the map plays quite slowly.

01:59:129 - Missing note? Not the same instrument as 3 and 4 but I'll see
02:00:501 - ^ Fixed

Regarding this section which I started outlining above, I understand you're mapping to the harpsichord but you really should fit in the drum line as well.

02:06:929 - Missing note Nope, listen in 25%

Again, this section feels like it should play much faster as an Insane. Needs higher spacing. I'll see about this one

02:28:529 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Section needs to be cleaned up in terms of aesthetics. Slider shapes can be improved and slider overlap should really be avoided. I will try to improve it later

---

GL

-SMIC

Thanks!

agusch wrote:
Hello

Insane

00:46:444 (5) - 02:13:701 (6) - 02:16:958 (5) - I would place this sliders in withe or red tick instead of blue tick, cause I start streaming with the index finger and need to change to middle finger. Fixed

That's all, I'm new to modding, I hope this help you.

Thank you!

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-02-07T20:14:00+00:00

SuperMICrophone wrote:
[Weegle's Normal]

This difficulty seems to be lacking in hitsounds. :S - I'll fix that, i had an old version of all the difficulties so they had no hitsounds

00:38:815 (1,2,3) - Bad flow for a Normal. Should curve out at least a bit. - fixed

SPOILER

00:52:529 (1,2) - These can blanket better. (2) should curve less. - fixed

SPOILER

01:19:787 (5) - Just make this in line with (4). Try x:320 y:272 - fixed
01:36:415 (5,6,7) - Spacing between (6) and (7) is inconsistent. fixed
01:39:844 (2,6) - (2) should be stacked under the end of (6) - fixed
01:41:901 (1) - Should be facing the other direction: - fixed

SPOILER

01:57:329 (5,1) - (1) should be further from (5). - fixed
01:59:387 (3,4) - and (4) needs to be much closer to (3) - wow im bad, oops, fixed
02:01:787 (3,4) - ^ - ^^^^^
02:19:958 (7,1) - (1) should be further from (7) - fixed
02:25:787 (3,4) - make parallel? - fixed

agusch wrote:
Weegle's Normal

01:41:558 (6) - I would made an overlap with that note and the end of this slider 01:39:844 (2) - fixed
01:59:387 (3,4) - I don't know if this jump is okay in a normal diff - fixed

UPDATED WITH HITSOUNDS

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6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-02-07T21:10:28+00:00

SPOILER

[6th's Hard]

I think the streams and 1/4 in the difficulty should be compressed, especially because the BPM is higher than average. I think the spacing at 00:36:758 (3,4,5) is perfect.
00:42:072 (2,3) - Make parallel?
01:07:272 (3) - Stack normally under (2).
01:22:872 (1,1) - These shapes can definitely be improved to look better. will work on it
01:28:358 (1) - This one is pretty good, but you should delete the anchor (red) point at make it curvy all the way around.
02:18:758 (4,5,1) - This should really form one straight line.
02:24:329 - Missed a beat here, add a circle?
02:24:844 - ^
02:26:815 (4,5,1) - Make this one straight line.
02:31:272 (1) - Try to make this perfectly symmetrical.

I just applied all. It will be updated soon

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-02-08T14:43:48+00:00

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

dqs01733

296 posts

Joined October 2013

dqs01733 2016-02-13T23:51:04+00:00

from free mods queue

[6th's Hard]

00:48:929 (5) - could u move this down a bit? so the head is more in line with the direction from 00:48:415 (4) - . you can probably move all this 00:48:929 (5,6,7) -
01:05:729 (4,1) - maybe you can make some overlap.. like this
01:11:215 (4,1) - you could make them blanket
02:27:072 (5,1) - you never stacked triplet during this sections.. you should make them like the previous so its moer consistent.

[Insane]

00:27:758 (10,1) - this is a lot smaller distance snap like other triplets.. you should make same as other for consistency
00:37:615 (3) - i think you should make same distance with this between 00:37:272 (2) - and 00:37:272 (2) - , it looks cleaner
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - can you make it even curve? i dont think it looks very good when it gradually curves more like that.. and it doesnt fit music either
02:34:101 (1) - its not snapped to right beat.. each repeat should land on the blue ticks.
02:36:929 (1,2,3) - same with this

hope its helpful, not good with modding below hard sorry ~
good luck

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-02-14T18:35:20+00:00

SPOILER

[6th's Hard]
00:48:929 (5) - could u move this down a bit? so the head is more in line with the direction from 00:48:415 (4) - . you can probably move all this 00:48:929 (5,6,7) -
01:05:729 (4,1) - maybe you can make some overlap.. like this sry it looks fine imo
01:11:215 (4,1) - you could make them blanket mhm I don't really see what you meant there
02:27:072 (5,1) - you never stacked triplet during this sections.. you should make them like the previous so its moer consistent. I changed the other triplets

Thanks !

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-14T18:54:31+00:00

dqs01733 wrote:
from free mods queue

[Insane]
00:27:758 (10,1) - this is a lot smaller distance snap like other triplets.. you should make same as other for consistency Fixed
00:37:615 (3) - i think you should make same distance with this between 00:37:272 (2) - and 00:37:272 (2) - , it looks cleaner Fixed
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - can you make it even curve? i dont think it looks very good when it gradually curves more like that.. and it doesnt fit music either Fine imo and yes it fits the music ;_;
02:34:101 (1) - its not snapped to right beat.. each repeat should land on the blue ticks. Deleted this part since it's a lot of problems lol
02:36:929 (1,2,3) - same with this This one is fine imo
hope its helpful, not good with modding below hard sorry ~
good luck

Thanks!

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2016-02-15T21:13:05+00:00

From #modreqs

[Insane]

00:21:115 (1) - Move the spinner onto the blue tick as thats where the sounds start, they just are at a lower volume. Take the hitsound off of the spinner end as well.
00:31:958 (1) - Why did you stop mapping the drums here? I don't get that choice.
00:36:072 (1) - Why are your hitsounds 5%? Thats absolutely horrible for players.
00:48:929 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - These both sound like 1/16th or 1/8th streams to me
00:57:158 (2,1,2) - You stop following the drums at really weird times, it doesn't really play right to me.
Huge tip for your sliders: Take a circle and put it in the middle of where you want the slider to curve around. Then, use that circles approach-circle to mold your slider. Boom! Perfect circular sliders!
01:55:958 (1) - I don't like that you don't follow the drums again. I don't really like the drum > string/synth alternation you do throughout the song. For this melody you should make a decision on whether or not you'll put in the bass throughout the entire song or just leave out the bass for this part. Obviously this is just my opinion, a BN would have better advice regarding this.
02:23:558 (1,2) - Theres some fast 1/16ths or something again here that you're leaving out
02:31:444 (2) - Move this on to the blue tick? Its following the trumpet right? Also, this one needs some TLC its a bit ugly.
02:39:587 (1) - In general, and this spinner is fine btw, I don't know if I agree with the slider art ending. I think the song should have ended on the head of this slider 02:28:529 (1) - rather than drawing it out so much farther. Because the end is just boring.

[]
Good luck!

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-15T23:10:59+00:00

CrypticMech wrote:
From #modreqs

[Insane]
00:21:115 (1) - Move the spinner onto the blue tick as thats where the sounds start, they just are at a lower volume. Take the hitsound off of the spinner end as well. Fixed
00:31:958 (1) - Why did you stop mapping the drums here? I don't get that choice. It's good to not map always the same instrument I think or it'll be boring quickly
00:36:072 (1) - Why are your hitsounds 5%? Thats absolutely horrible for players. Oh damn, totally forgot to put another timing thing lol thanks!
00:48:929 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - These both sound like 1/16th or 1/8th streams to me Fixed
00:57:158 (2,1,2) - You stop following the drums at really weird times, it doesn't really play right to me. Fixed
Huge tip for your sliders: Take a circle and put it in the middle of where you want the slider to curve around. Then, use that circles approach-circle to mold your slider. Boom! Perfect circular sliders!
01:55:958 (1) - I don't like that you don't follow the drums again. I don't really like the drum > string/synth alternation you do throughout the song. For this melody you should make a decision on whether or not you'll put in the bass throughout the entire song or just leave out the bass for this part. Obviously this is just my opinion, a BN would have better advice regarding this. I like the way it is now, I'll see later with a BN or something
02:23:558 (1,2) - Theres some fast 1/16ths or something again here that you're leaving out Seems fine to me, I don't want the map to be full of kicksliders ;_;
02:31:444 (2) - Move this on to the blue tick? Its following the trumpet right? Also, this one needs some TLC its a bit ugly. Yea this one is kinda ugly, I'll try to fix it later
02:39:587 (1) - In general, and this spinner is fine btw, I don't know if I agree with the slider art ending. I think the song should have ended on the head of this slider 02:28:529 (1) - rather than drawing it out so much farther. Because the end is just boring. The end may be boring but it needs to be mapped, look at every map with "boring" slider art
[]
Good luck!

Thanks!

Warpyc

406 posts

Joined August 2013

Warpyc 2016-02-17T20:43:58+00:00

Hi!

Insane

00:01:786 - You didnt map intro :c you could have done some cool sliders but no big deal
00:26:472 (1,2,3) - Copy this and paste here 00:26:987 (5,6,7) -
01:37:101 (1,2,3) - Curve triipple to flow better into (4)
01:54:929 - No note? There is a strong breat here I would defenitely map this
01:55:272 - ^
01:55:444 - ^
02:18:587 (1) - Slider is too curved why dont you blanket with 02:19:101 (4) -
02:19:101 (4) - I dont like how this slider is overlapped by 02:18:587 (1) - Looks pretty bad unlike the rest of the map, I'd recommend to move it elsewhere
02:31:358 (2) - This is not an atractive slider at all...
02:34:015 (3) - why dont you map the sounds inside the slider like you did here 02:36:929 (1,2,3,4) - ?

Weegle's Normal
This diff is completely unrankable due to not using ds which is a requirement for normal difficulties, try remapping using anywhere from 0.7-1 in distance snap!

Shmik's Easy
Looks clean but remove all unused inherited timing points (the green ones)

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-17T21:39:02+00:00

Warpyc wrote:
Hi!

[notice]

Insane
00:01:786 - You didnt map intro :c you could have done some cool sliders but no big deal Yea I think it already has enough long slider parts, I don't want to make a too "boring" map lol
00:26:472 (1,2,3) - Copy this and paste here 00:26:987 (5,6,7) - Fixed
01:37:101 (1,2,3) - Curve triipple to flow better into (4) Fixed
01:54:929 - No note? There is a strong breat here I would defenitely map this Fixed
01:55:272 - ^ ^
01:55:444 - ^ ^
02:18:587 (1) - Slider is too curved why dont you blanket with 02:19:101 (4) - Fixed
02:19:101 (4) - I dont like how this slider is overlapped by 02:18:587 (1) - Looks pretty bad unlike the rest of the map, I'd recommend to move it elsewhere Fixed
02:31:358 (2) - This is not an atractive slider at all... Yeah ikr, I'll try to fix it because right now it looks really meh lmao
02:34:015 (3) - why dont you map the sounds inside the slider like you did here 02:36:929 (1,2,3,4) - ? I already did it before but it was really awkward to play so I made some direction changes in one long slider instead

Thank you!

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-02-18T12:41:22+00:00

VERY LITTLE UPDATE

Kitasan

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Joined April 2015

Kitasan 2016-02-19T08:10:07+00:00

mod
Ой фсе я тебе помогу нази модом хД
Shmiklak - убери нафиг вайдскрин
00:20:987 (1) - ой лол ну все, должно быть 4 белых тика, че ты, я не узнаю тебя
00:26:472 (1,1) - Его можно стакануть но ты даже не пытался
00:43:958 (4,1) - Пофиксь стак (порнография)
01:06:244 (1,2) - ДАВАЙ БЛАНКЕТ!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:12:758 (2,3) - ПОПРАВЬ БЛАНКЕТ
все

Shmiklak

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Shmiklak 2016-02-20T10:01:01+00:00

wajinshu wrote:
mod
Ой фсе я тебе помогу нази модом хД
Shmiklak - убери нафиг вайдскрин ладно
00:20:987 (1) - ой лол ну все, должно быть 4 белых тика, че ты, я не узнаю тебя говорю же давно уже это было
00:26:472 (1,1) - Его можно стакануть но ты даже не пытался дс не позволяет. Да и не нужно это
00:43:958 (4,1) - Пофиксь стак (порнография) он и так ровный .-.
01:06:244 (1,2) - ДАВАЙ БЛАНКЕТ!!!!!!!!!!!! ну ок
02:12:758 (2,3) - ПОПРАВЬ БЛАНКЕТ фиксед
все

Моя сестренка мод сделала :3

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

xDarxen

313 posts

Joined July 2014

xDarxen 2016-02-21T09:31:31+00:00

hey hey

[General]

The fact that both Normal and Easy diffs have OD 5 and HP 5 is wierd, since Easy is supposed to be easier. I suggest you decrease them on Easy. Also the CS goes from 2 to 4, which is a big gap for noobies.

[Easy]

00:26:472 (1,2) - This is way too hard for new players to read, because you combine two advanced things: an overlap and a reverse slider.
The sound is the same with 00:23:729 (1,2) - but it is mapped differently, so why not use the same pattern again?
00:30:929 (2) - This will flow better if you make it vertical like this:

Reference
01:14:472 (1,2) - Same as above. Here you can use this rhythm:

Reference
01:37:787 (3) - This feels wierd because the sound ends on the red tick but this is extended till the downbeat.
The outro is mapped in all the other diffs. Consider adding atleast a spinner.

[Normal]

Check the distance snap. Apparently, there are some spacing issues.
00:24:072 (2) - Rotate a little to the right for better flow.
01:11:558 (7) - This ends on the downbeat and messes up everything. You can try this rhythm:

Reference
01:35:730 (4,7) - You can avoid this overlap, because it makes it ugly.

[Hard]

Every other diff has a spinner in the beginning, so maybe add one?
00:38:815 (1) - This is nearly touching the stream and looks unattractive. Try stacking the tail of the slider to 00:37:787 (2)

Reference

If you do that, then you have to adjast the spacing after. You don't have to follow the DS so precisely on Hard diffs afterall. You can always add some jumps.
01:11:729 (1) - You can move this to the middle of 01:11:215 (4) to create a blanket.
01:12:929 (4) - This ends on the downbeat and messes up everything. You can try this rhythm:

Reference
02:28:358 - Add a break.

[Insane]

00:21:072 (1) - Why does it start on the blue tick? Both in Easy and Normal it starts on the downbeat.
00:25:701 - The gap between reverses feels wierd. Extend 00:25:444 (7) for one tick.
00:37:787 (4,1) - The slider starts on the blue tick an it feels unnatural. Move 00:37:872 (1) on the red tick and add a circle on its place to play like a triple. Nice.
00:43:529 (10) - Same^ Those kind of sliders should NEVER start on blue ticks. Move it on the downbeat and add a circle on its place. (Readjust the spacing if you do)
02:11:215 (2,3,4,5,6) - Move this a little to the left for better flow and to avoid touching 02:10:529 (5)
02:21:329 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack to 02:20:644 (4)?

Oki dat's it. Good luck

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-21T17:02:29+00:00

xDarxen wrote:
hey hey

[Insane]
00:21:072 (1) - Why does it start on the blue tick? Both in Easy and Normal it starts on the downbeat. Fixed, lol this spinner gets a lot of complains
00:25:701 - The gap between reverses feels wierd. Extend 00:25:444 (7) for one tick. Sorry but there is no sound where you want me to extend the tick, I don't want to overmap ;_;
00:37:787 (4,1) - The slider starts on the blue tick an it feels unnatural. Move 00:37:872 (1) on the red tick and add a circle on its place to play like a triple. Nice. Fixed
00:43:529 (10) - Same^ Those kind of sliders should NEVER start on blue ticks. Move it on the downbeat and add a circle on its place. (Readjust the spacing if you do) Fixed
02:11:215 (2,3,4,5,6) - Move this a little to the left for better flow and to avoid touching 02:10:529 (5) Fixed
02:21:329 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack to 02:20:644 (4)? Fixed
Oki dat's it. Good luck

Thanks!

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-02-21T20:50:11+00:00

xDarxen wrote:
hey hey

[Normal]
Check the distance snap. Apparently, there are some spacing issues.
00:24:072 (2) - Rotate a little to the right for better flow. - fixed
01:11:558 (7) - This ends on the downbeat and messes up everything. You can try this rhythm: - fixed

Reference
01:35:730 (4,7) - You can avoid this overlap, because it makes it ugly. - yeah okay ugly removed

mY new thing

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Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-02-22T16:15:29+00:00

UPDATE

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-02-22T23:12:39+00:00

SPOILER

Every other diff has a spinner in the beginning, so maybe add one? I'm sorry but I find it useless here
00:38:815 (1) - This is nearly touching the stream and looks unattractive. Try stacking the tail of the slider to 00:37:787 (2) changed, nice one btw
01:11:729 (1) - You can move this to the middle of 01:11:215 (4) to create a blanket. I didn't want to do that but due to all the modders that advised to move it, I did
01:12:929 (4) - This ends on the downbeat and messes up everything nice
02:28:358 - Add a break.

Thank you, very useful

FCL

1,497 posts

Joined July 2014

FCL 2016-02-23T13:38:41+00:00

Sorry for late mod

I thinks you add Hardcore to tags, i am no expert but i can listening some hardcore sounds in song xd

[Insane]

00:25:787 (8,9) - pls never make things like this since intuitively player will move cursor forward, and your stack made stop and causes discomfort to play. Also it's hard for reading and generally stacks with ends like this are unrankable lmao
00:28:615 (5,6) - same as before, it's hard for reading and probably unrankable
01:10:872 (3) - do u not think that it's too closer with 01:10:358 (1) - ? Move it a bit down
01:11:901 (2) - I heard some 1/8 (or 1/16 lol) sound here, i think it's will be more correct if you will map 1/8 repeat here
01:14:472 (3) - not sure, but this slider will confusing too, u could rotate it to 45 degrees and move to 154 264, looks pretty better http://puu.sh/nirYZ/98dc1ba96f.png
01:19:958 (1) - oval shape is pretty weird in my option lol, some circle form would be better imo
01:22:701 (1) - okay, here it's looks better
01:19:958 (1,1,1) - sliderends haven't some sound, so i recomment reduce volume to sliderend (10%-20% idk)
02:14:044 (1,2,3) - not too necessary, but doubles instead would be more fun to play
02:18:758 - should be 1/8 repeat here , right?
02:28:529 (1,2,3) - same with sliderends as before

[Hard]

00:27:329 (4,5,6) - this overlap killing my eyes -_-. You should move it so to be inside the slider http://puu.sh/nisJ8/b6c61d3388.jpg , or make something else
00:46:615 (4,5) - stack under sliders can be confusing for hard diffs players, so i recommend add some spacing between
00:52:872 (1) - again bad overlap, u can stack slider with end of 00:52:015 (7) - to avoid him
01:07:272 (3) - same as before, 1/2 probably confusing too and... stack haven't some sense
01:49:958 (8,2) - aaa, i want kill a little cats when i see stuff like this, pls fix
02:27:072 (5,1) - stack, omg fix pls

[Normal]

pls delete unnecessary green lines
idk. rhythm and flow is fine for, so i can't say something about it

[spaklak]

00:30:929 (2) - ужасно и некрасиво. Слайдервейвы лучше не использовать на короткие слайдеры
00:31:958 (1) - локоть слайдеры кстати тоже
00:43:958 (4,1) - не очень я одобряю 1/1 стаки, их надо использовать только в крайних случаях и по сильно нужде, тут я такой нужды не вижу
00:47:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ну слишком долгий спам 1/1 слайдерами, прояви фантазию плс
01:14:472 (1) - ужасно
01:17:215 (1,2) - ужасно
01:49:787 (4) - мне вообще не нравится идея, что ты используешь 1/2 слайдеры в изике, но это уже край. меняй на круг
01:55:615 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - че там по фантазии? разнообразь ритм плс
02:03:844 (1,2,3) - у меня такое чувство, что нубасы будут путаться при виде этого стака, попробуй на 295 76 поставить хз
02:11:387 (5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ужасно
02:25:444 (4) - если стак с тройкой еще может и прочитается, то с четверкой это вообще полный пиздец. Из-за стандартного скина ее просто не будет видно и новичку будут путаться, выбирай другую позицию
02:39:501 - че за бред, я должен сидеть и ждать 10 секунд, чтобы покрутить спиннер? добавь только каких-нибудь лолг слайдеров туда, как в других диффах

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-23T17:42:33+00:00

FCL wrote:
Sorry for late mod No problem

I thinks you add Hardcore to tags, i am no expert but i can listening some hardcore sounds in song xd Sure
[Insane]
00:25:787 (8,9) - pls never make things like this since intuitively player will move cursor forward, and your stack made stop and causes discomfort to play. Also it's hard for reading and generally stacks with ends like this are unrankable lmao Fixed
00:28:615 (5,6) - same as before, it's hard for reading and probably unrankable Fixed
01:10:872 (3) - do u not think that it's too closer with 01:10:358 (1) - ? Move it a bit down Fixed
01:11:901 (2) - I heard some 1/8 (or 1/16 lol) sound here, i think it's will be more correct if you will map 1/8 repeat here Fixed
01:14:472 (3) - not sure, but this slider will confusing too, u could rotate it to 45 degrees and move to 154 264, looks pretty better http://puu.sh/nirYZ/98dc1ba96f.png Wrong screenshot I guess lol, changed it in another way
01:19:958 (1) - oval shape is pretty weird in my option lol, some circle form would be better imo It's fine imo but I'll see
01:22:701 (1) - okay, here it's looks better Thanks
01:19:958 (1,1,1) - sliderends haven't some sound, so i recomment reduce volume to sliderend (10%-20% idk) Fixed
02:14:044 (1,2,3) - not too necessary, but doubles instead would be more fun to play Fixed
02:18:758 - should be 1/8 repeat here , right? Nah, listen closely with 25%
02:28:529 (1,2,3) - same with sliderends as before Fixed

Thanks!

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-02-24T10:05:50+00:00

SPOILER
Hard
00:27:329 (4,5,6) - this overlap killing my eyes -_-. You should move it so to be inside the slider http://puu.sh/nisJ8/b6c61d3388.jpg , or make something else It is what I expected
00:46:615 (4,5) - stack under sliders can be confusing for hard diffs players, so i recommend add some spacing between It has never been confusing to me but okay
00:52:872 (1) - again bad overlap, u can stack slider with end of 00:52:015 (7) - to avoid him
01:07:272 (3) - same as before, 1/2 probably confusing too and... stack haven't some sense
01:49:958 (8,2) - aaa, i want kill a little cats when i see stuff like this, pls fix It seems perfectly readable
02:27:072 (5,1) - stack, omg fix pls

Thanks

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-02-24T10:38:19+00:00

UPDATE

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-02-24T20:37:38+00:00

I'll update the unnecessary green lines in next mod where changes need to be made

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,547 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2016-02-27T15:54:02+00:00

General

Silence the sliderslide, it's pretty loud

Insane

00:27:844 (1,2) - this is pretty cramp, given the densty
00:40:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,2,3,4) - example of what I feel is really too cramped in this map
00:42:244 (6) - could be split into 3 objects, or maybe more, give it more action here, more movement
00:43:615 (11) - kinda weird to suddenly have a slider here, if anything, the clap on the slider end puts everything off, it doesn't sound right, any percussion sound that stood out near there, it's at 00:43:615

generally speaking, you have the whistles for the sounds in the music that stick out and are lower in pitch, namely 01:03:501 (1) - 01:04:358 (1) - 01:04:872 (5) - 01:05:729 (6) - 01:06:244 (1) - to name a few. But the claps aren't really following with it, so it doesn't mix. You could have it follow the snare, which you can hear in places like 01:03:758 (4,5) - 01:04:529 (2) - 01:05:215 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:05:901 (7) - 01:06:501 (3,4) - 01:07:958 - 01:08:644 - 01:09:329 (1) - to give some examples. This could honestly make it more vibrant and work out with the music

01:28:358 (1) - doesn't start with the music
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - really odd curve in the stream
01:59:558 (2,3,4) and 02:00:244 (2,3,4) - why are they spaced differently?
02:20:301 (2,3,4,5) - really odd spacing, why is 02:20:644 (4,5) the lowest spacing, leading up to small spacing 02:20:815 (5,1) - once again

the spacing gets really small and somewhat big at times, I think you could make those changes work better, cuz right now I quite see a lot of anti-climatic spacing

GL~

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-02-27T19:08:17+00:00

neonat wrote:
General

Silence the sliderslide, it's pretty loud I'll try to fix it

Insane

00:27:844 (1,2) - this is pretty cramp, given the densty Fixed
00:40:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,2,3,4) - example of what I feel is really too cramped in this map Fixed
00:42:244 (6) - could be split into 3 objects, or maybe more, give it more action here, more movement Fixed
00:43:615 (11) - kinda weird to suddenly have a slider here, if anything, the clap on the slider end puts everything off, it doesn't sound right, any percussion sound that stood out near there, it's at 00:43:615 Fixed

generally speaking, you have the whistles for the sounds in the music that stick out and are lower in pitch, namely 01:03:501 (1) - 01:04:358 (1) - 01:04:872 (5) - 01:05:729 (6) - 01:06:244 (1) - to name a few. But the claps aren't really following with it, so it doesn't mix. You could have it follow the snare, which you can hear in places like 01:03:758 (4,5) - 01:04:529 (2) - 01:05:215 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:05:901 (7) - 01:06:501 (3,4) - 01:07:958 - 01:08:644 - 01:09:329 (1) - to give some examples. This could honestly make it more vibrant and work out with the music I'll try to fix it with Classwork because I suck at hitsounding ;_;

01:28:358 (1) - doesn't start with the music Fixed I think
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - really odd curve in the stream Fixed? ;_;
01:59:558 (2,3,4) and 02:00:244 (2,3,4) - why are they spaced differently? Fixed
02:20:301 (2,3,4,5) - really odd spacing, why is 02:20:644 (4,5) the lowest spacing, leading up to small spacing 02:20:815 (5,1) - once again The strong beats are on 02:20:301 (2,3,4) - but I spaced 02:20:815 (5) - a bit more now

the spacing gets really small and somewhat big at times, I think you could make those changes work better, cuz right now I quite see a lot of anti-climatic spacing

GL~

Thanks!

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2016-03-01T23:19:42+00:00

Hello, here from my queue. Hope this helps!

[Insane]

00:34:529 (1) – The end and head of this slider overlaps a tiny bit. I think it would like nicer if this did not happen, so scale it up by a bit and re-blanket.

00:44:472 (2) – Due to the way stacking works, the prev of this is 1.0x, which is inconsistent from what you've been doing.

In general, some angles between three objects in this map can sometimes look odd. For example: 00:48:929 (4,5,6) – doesn't really look like it's going for any structure. Instead what you could do is go for some kind of symmetry along a line like this: http://puu.sh/nrpDa/c308eaaa50.jpg. Another example, 01:04:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – would look nicer if you had more of a trapezoid going on like:
http://puu.sh/nrpW6/066f86c2b5.jpg (hint: (1,6) is parallel to (2,3))

01:33:672 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – I'm not that big a fan of being so horizontal like this, but that's just me.

01:52:872 (1,2,3,4) – It might be cool if the spacing between these were bigger since the slider leniency makes these jumps a little too easy for me.

01:54:929 (8,2) – It would look better if the spacing between (8,2) was the same as (7,8), so move (2) to 289,225
02:19:958 (1,2,4) - ^ similar thing, try something like: http://puu.sh/nrqCP/d89f45f3eb.jpg
02:06:587 (1) – It's kind of weird to start a section so close to the edge of the screen, see if there is a way to move it closer to the center

02:15:501 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make it wiggle less: http://puu.sh/nrqs5/797d1cf73d.jpg

02:25:958 (4,6) – This overlap looks poor. Try stacking 02:25:787 (3,6) -

The rhythm felt pretty good, although I might prefer less reverse sliders since the diff felt a little easy for me. See what you can do about positioning objects for structure and neater angles.

[Easy]

AR 4.5 seems a bit high for the lowest difficulty of the set, but hey

00:34:015 (5) – Move this to 383, 251 for a better trapezoid structure

00:46:015 (4) – Moving this to 309, 170 looks a little better since it avoids the 00:44:301 (1,4) – overlap

00:47:729 (2,3,4,5) – Structure: http://puu.sh/nrreC/444443e33e.jpg

01:15:158 (2,1) – I'm not sure about this suggestion, but this pattern seems a bit tricky for an Easy, so making (2) a ½ slider seems preferable

01:44:644 (1,2,3,4) – The visual spacing could be improved, meaning that lowest gap between (1,2) should be the same spacing as the lowest gap between (2,3) which should be the same spacing as the lowest gap between (3,4): http://puu.sh/nrrGB/e549d3bdcc.jpg

01:48:758 (3,4,1) – You can make this a triangle by moving (1) to 350, 141

02:02:472 (3,4,5,1) – Try making a better trapezoidal structure.

02:08:644 (4,2) – You might want to make the DS between these 1.00x.

02:10:701 (3,1) – This overlap looks a bit odd, try to avoid it.

[Normal]

Those circles are tiny for a normal. Try a CS of 3.2. The CS should not be harder than what is in the Hard

00:23:729 (1,2,3) – Inconsistencies in spacing in a Normal is generally a bad idea. This applies everywhere in the map

00:47:044 (1,2,3) – The angles between these and the slider angles of (1) and (3) look a bit odd. Why not structure this by using symmetry like: http://puu.sh/nrspV/1f446bae12.jpg (To be precise about it, use the y-axis as a line of symmetry, then rotate the pattern to the desired position.)

00:48:415 (3) – Having more than one reverse in a reverse slider plays strangely. Try adding a circle on 00:49:444 – instead

01:16:529 (7,1) – blanket these?

01:35:044 (3) – Consider making this a 2/1 slider and adding a circle on 01:36:072 -

01:46:015 (3,4,5,1) – Go for a structure like this: http://puu.sh/nrsMr/3645c7d334.jpg (hint: turn off the gird, and notice that the DS between (3,1) is 1.00x and all angles between the objects are equal)

02:00:587 (6) – I prefer deleting this and having a circle on the white tick instead.

02:35:215 (3) – Make this end at 02:36:929 -

[Hard]

Sorry 6th, I have a policy that I only mod for one hour on NM requests, and I've reached my limit.

Good luck!

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-02T10:52:32+00:00

pinataman wrote:
Hello, here from my queue. Hope this helps!

[Insane]

00:34:529 (1) – The end and head of this slider overlaps a tiny bit. I think it would like nicer if this did not happen, so scale it up by a bit and re-blanket. Fixed

00:44:472 (2) – Due to the way stacking works, the prev of this is 1.0x, which is inconsistent from what you've been doing. uh idk I don't really understand what you say here ;_;

In general, some angles between three objects in this map can sometimes look odd. For example: 00:48:929 (4,5,6) – doesn't really look like it's going for any structure. Instead what you could do is go for some kind of symmetry along a line like this: http://puu.sh/nrpDa/c308eaaa50.jpg. Another example, 01:04:358 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – would look nicer if you had more of a trapezoid going on like:
http://puu.sh/nrpW6/066f86c2b5.jpg (hint: (1,6) is parallel to (2,3)) Fixed

01:33:672 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) – I'm not that big a fan of being so horizontal like this, but that's just me. Rotated it a bit lol

01:52:872 (1,2,3,4) – It might be cool if the spacing between these were bigger since the slider leniency makes these jumps a little too easy for me. Fixed

01:54:929 (8,2) – It would look better if the spacing between (8,2) was the same as (7,8), so move (2) to 289,225 Fixed
02:19:958 (1,2,4) - ^ similar thing, try something like: http://puu.sh/nrqCP/d89f45f3eb.jpg Fixed
02:06:587 (1) – It's kind of weird to start a section so close to the edge of the screen, see if there is a way to move it closer to the center Fixed, lol it wasn't even properly spaced, nice mistake

02:15:501 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make it wiggle less: http://puu.sh/nrqs5/797d1cf73d.jpg Fixed

02:25:958 (4,6) – This overlap looks poor. Try stacking 02:25:787 (3,6) - Fixed

The rhythm felt pretty good, although I might prefer less reverse sliders since the diff felt a little easy for me. See what you can do about positioning objects for structure and neater angles.

Good luck!

Thanks!

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-03-02T16:39:03+00:00

pinataman wrote:
Hello, here from my queue. Hope this helps!
[Easy]

AR 4.5 seems a bit high for the lowest difficulty of the set, but hey oops...

00:34:015 (5) – Move this to 383, 251 for a better trapezoid structure okay

00:46:015 (4) – Moving this to 309, 170 looks a little better since it avoids the 00:44:301 (1,4) – overlap same

00:47:729 (2,3,4,5) – Structure: http://puu.sh/nrreC/444443e33e.jpg

01:15:158 (2,1) – I'm not sure about this suggestion, but this pattern seems a bit tricky for an Easy, so making (2) a ½ slider seems preferable

01:44:644 (1,2,3,4) – The visual spacing could be improved, meaning that lowest gap between (1,2) should be the same spacing as the lowest gap between (2,3) which should be the same spacing as the lowest gap between (3,4): http://puu.sh/nrrGB/e549d3bdcc.jpg maybe later

01:48:758 (3,4,1) – You can make this a triangle by moving (1) to 350, 141

02:02:472 (3,4,5,1) – Try making a better trapezoidal structure.

02:08:644 (4,2) – You might want to make the DS between these 1.00x.

02:10:701 (3,1) – This overlap looks a bit odd, try to avoid it.

Good luck!

UPD

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-03-02T22:53:24+00:00

[quote="pinataman"]Hello, here from my queue. Hope this helps!

[Normal]

Those circles are tiny for a normal. Try a CS of 3.2. The CS should not be harder than what is in the Hard - eh if more people reccomend it i'll change it

00:23:729 (1,2,3) – Inconsistencies in spacing in a Normal is generally a bad idea. This applies everywhere in the map - okay

00:47:044 (1,2,3) – The angles between these and the slider angles of (1) and (3) look a bit odd. Why not structure this by using symmetry like: http://puu.sh/nrspV/1f446bae12.jpg (To be precise about it, use the y-axis as a line of symmetry, then rotate the pattern to the desired position.) - good idea

00:48:415 (3) – Having more than one reverse in a reverse slider plays strangely. Try adding a circle on 00:49:444 – instead - did that

01:16:529 (7,1) – blanket these? - looks fine

01:35:044 (3) – Consider making this a 2/1 slider and adding a circle on 01:36:072 - good idea

01:46:015 (3,4,5,1) – Go for a structure like this: http://puu.sh/nrsMr/3645c7d334.jpg (hint: turn off the gird, and notice that the DS between (3,1) is 1.00x and all angles between the objects are equal) - okay thanks

02:00:587 (6) – I prefer deleting this and having a circle on the white tick instead. - good idea

02:35:215 (3) – Make this end at 02:36:929 - i think i messed it up in the last mod i was editing this section for, thanks for catching it

Thanks for the mod

Updated thingy

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Vovan

559 posts

Joined March 2014

Vovan 2016-03-04T18:02:47+00:00

[6th's Hard]

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - I'll request something :
Delete 6 and make a 1/2 slider with 1 reverse,
After, delete 7 & 8 and create a 1/1 beat slider who begins here : 00:28:529 -

00:47:558 - Add a 1/4 beat slider

00:56:987 (2,3) - Fix blanket

01:22:872 (1,2) - Bad overlap at the upper parts of he sliders

01:45:329 (3,4) - Change the pattern for make a blanket

01:48:929 (6) - 1/2 beat slider with 3 reverses

[Weegle's Normal]

01:47:387 (1) - please for this moment keep consistancy, map all 1/1 beat

01:53:558 (2) - ^

+ fix AIMod Problems with DS enabled
& Tags problems

[Shmik's Easy]

00:31:615 (3,2) - Please, don't make stacked overlaps like this in Easy diffs, it confuse the beginners and make the pattern 00:31:958 (1,2) - Ugly.

00:31:958 (1,5) - Overlap

00:40:872 (6) - Add reverse

01:10:358 (3,4) - Blanket problem ?

01:14:472 (1,2) - Make blanket/Fix blanket

01:38:301 - End of the slider

01:39:844 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - Too many circles

02:03:844 (1,2) - This blanket got big problems o_O

That's all for me !
:3

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-03-04T22:27:10+00:00

SPOILER

[6th's Hard]

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - I'll request something :
Delete 6 and make a 1/2 slider with 1 reverse,
After, delete 7 & 8 and create a 1/1 beat slider who begins here : 00:28:529 - Je suis vraiment désolé mais je ne comprends pas à quoi ça correspondrait s:

00:47:558 - Add a 1/4 beat slider Je suis d'accord sur le fait que ça sonnerait bien mais c'est peut-être un peu trop pour une hard

00:56:987 (2,3) - Fix blanket

01:22:872 (1,2) - Bad overlap at the upper parts of he sliders Je cherche un moyen de corriger ça

01:45:329 (3,4) - Change the pattern for make a blanket

01:48:929 (6) - 1/2 beat slider with 3 reverses Honnêtement ça me parait bien comme c'est

Merci !

Vovan

559 posts

Joined March 2014

Vovan 2016-03-04T22:54:02+00:00

Don't give kudosus !!

Je savais pas que t'était francais,
Alors je vais te redire ce point :

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - I'll request something :
Delete 6 and make a 1/2 slider with 1 reverse,
After, delete 7 & 8 and create a 1/1 beat slider who begins here : 00:28:529 - Je suis vraiment désolé mais je ne comprends pas à quoi ça correspondrait s:

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - Les notes ne sont pas parfaitement dans le rythme,je parle en l'occruence des sliders 6 & 7
En gros supprime le slider (6) et fais un slider d'un demi beat (battement ou tick blanc commencant au debut du slider 6) et ajoute lui une reverse.
Ensuite, supprime le slider 7 & le cercle 8 afin de faire un slider d'un battement (tick blanc au tick blanc) qui commence ici : 00:28:529 - Afin de corriger les problemes de rythme.

N0thingSpecial

2,355 posts

Joined November 2015

N0thingSpecial 2016-03-05T03:55:39+00:00

M4M BOY

Insane

00:29:215 (3) - squashed up slider is a no for me, I would do this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659215
00:31:101 (4) - just use 3 points for the arc, don't need five: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659221
00:33:329 (1,3,4,5) - this overlapping doesn't look right
00:34:358 (6,1) - better blanket, not centered properly
00:36:158 (2,4,8) - can't hear these notes in the music, doesn't belong in the stream
00:48:244 (2,3,4,5,6) - not a big deal but I prefer more consistent spacing in this part
01:19:958 (1) - Personally not a big fan of elipse but I would prefer it shaped like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659289
01:22:701 (1) - ^ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659327
01:25:444 (1,1) - just want to point out this is actually good, BUT the sound fades at 01:30:929 (2) - so the slider should end there
01:39:158 (1,2,3) - you could play with 1/8 sliders here tbh
02:19:444 (1) - is this is bad blanket???
02:27:672 (3) - center it properly
02:28:187 (5,1) - make "5" blanket "1" maybe?
02:31:358 (2) - the horn sounds like it starts between the white tick and blue tick, you might want to double check that since score v2 is coming
02:34:015 (3) - this doesn't work with the last one, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659400 I made this but I think it still looks meh
02:34:187 (4) - you really have to decide on when does the horn go off cause score v2 will make your map hard to acc
02:36:929 (1) - this note is not needed

I still need to learn how to map easier difficulties so I don't have much to say for them, and I have nothing to say about Easy.

Hard

00:32:472 (2,3,4,5) - try to make the notes start on the white tick, it is just awkward for new players to start sliders on so many red ticks.
00:39:844 (4) - Heavy beat there, there should be something for the players to tap, I personally perfer https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659464. Not letting players tap on heavy beat is consistently a problem, so might want to check that out, I won't repeat myself after this.
01:05:729 (4) - a simple curve would do
01:11:215 (4,1) - make it over lap properly if you're going to blanket it (don't think you can blanket it either with that shape), or just make it symmetrical
01:39:844 (3,4) - ^
01:54:929 (2) - don't need to do it, but blanket it properly

Normal

01:50:815 - squashed up sliders ew

GOOD LUCK

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-03-05T09:11:59+00:00

SPOILER

Lexis wrote:
Don't give kudosus !!

Je savais pas que t'était francais,
Alors je vais te redire ce point :

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - I'll request something :
Delete 6 and make a 1/2 slider with 1 reverse,
After, delete 7 & 8 and create a 1/1 beat slider who begins here : 00:28:529 - Je suis vraiment désolé mais je ne comprends pas à quoi ça correspondrait s:

00:27:844 (6,7,8) - Les notes ne sont pas parfaitement dans le rythme,je parle en l'occruence des sliders 6 & 7
En gros supprime le slider (6) et fais un slider d'un demi beat (battement ou tick blanc commencant au debut du slider 6) et ajoute lui une reverse.
Ensuite, supprime le slider 7 & le cercle 8 afin de faire un slider d'un battement (tick blanc au tick blanc) qui commence ici : 00:28:529 - Afin de corriger les problemes de rythme.

J'ai bien compris ce que tu me demandais, mais je ne voyais pas à quoi ça correspondant dans la musique (; bref, je m'en suis rendu compte, merci !

SPOILER

00:32:472 (2,3,4,5) - try to make the notes start on the white tick, it is just awkward for new players to start sliders on so many red ticks. It works well here, doesn't it ?
00:39:844 (4) - Heavy beat there, there should be something for the players to tap, I personally perfer https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659464. Not letting players tap on heavy beat is consistently a problem, so might want to check that out, I won't repeat myself after this.
01:05:729 (4) - a simple curve would do
01:11:215 (4,1) - make it over lap properly if you're going to blanket it (don't think you can blanket it either with that shape), or just make it symmetrical changed
01:39:844 (3,4) - ^ hmm I don't like it so much here
01:54:929 (2) - don't need to do it, but blanket it properly

Thanks

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-05T13:22:36+00:00

N0thingSpecial wrote:
M4M BOY
Insane
00:29:215 (3) - squashed up slider is a no for me, I would do this instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659215 Fine imo, and it would make the following jumps a bit awkward to aim/read
00:31:101 (4) - just use 3 points for the arc, don't need five: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659221 Fine too, I used 5 points because with only 3 it was too curved and didn't flow well with the following hitcircle
00:33:329 (1,3,4,5) - this overlapping doesn't look right Fixed
00:34:358 (6,1) - better blanket, not centered properly Fixed
00:36:158 (2,4,8) - can't hear these notes in the music, doesn't belong in the stream At first I thought it was false but after hearing it multiple times, you're right lol, I feel ashamed of myself for overmapping now
00:48:244 (2,3,4,5,6) - not a big deal but I prefer more consistent spacing in this part Actually it's kinda consistent, only one spacing change here 00:48:587 (3,4) - for that entire part 00:47:558 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - , I wanted to emphasize a bit more 4 but I'll see if I change it
01:19:958 (1) - Personally not a big fan of elipse but I would prefer it shaped like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659289 I like how it is now and your shape would make it flow weirdly just after 01:19:615 (6) - because it goes in the left direction and your shape goes in the left direction, but I'll see if I change it to another shape someday
01:22:701 (1) - ^ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659327 I like how it is now but thanks for the suggestion
01:25:444 (1,1) - just want to point out this is actually good, BUT the sound fades at 01:30:929 (2) - so the slider should end there Sorry, I don't hear anything during the break and even if you hear something the sound is way too low to map it, it would feel like overmapping and boring
01:39:158 (1,2,3) - you could play with 1/8 sliders here tbh I'm mapping to the other instrument for that part, so it would feel weird to map that instrument just for one slider and for the other instrument the next notes, but I see what you mean
02:19:444 (1) - is this is bad blanket??? It wasn't intended to be a blanket but fixed now, nice catch
02:27:672 (3) - center it properly Oops, fixed
02:28:187 (5,1) - make "5" blanket "1" maybe? Nah, it's fine like this
02:31:358 (2) - the horn sounds like it starts between the white tick and blue tick, you might want to double check that since score v2 is coming I'll check it winter is coming
02:34:015 (3) - this doesn't work with the last one, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4659400 I made this but I think it still looks meh Changed it my own way
02:34:187 (4) - you really have to decide on when does the horn go off cause score v2 will make your map hard to acc I'll check it too
02:36:929 (1) - this note is not needed It is, without it the next two hitcircles would feel really weird/off/harder to acc
GOOD LUCK

Thanks!

I'll try to mod your map tonight

Video

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Joined June 2014

Video 2016-03-05T21:13:27+00:00

N0thingSpecial wrote:
[*]01:54:929 (2) - don't need to do it, but blanket it properly[/list][/box]
[Normal]
01:50:815 - squashed up sliders ew - fixed
GOOD LUCK

broke a sweat with this mod ;o;

updated slider

osu file format v14

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404,206,130701,2,0,P|456:197|505:221,1,99.9999904632569,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,295,131387,2,0,P|387:304|340:282,1,99.9999904632569,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
327,257,131901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,228,132072,2,0,L|201:249,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
193,223,132587,2,0,P|177:176|206:117,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
223,112,133101,1,0,0:0:0:0:
307,73,133443,5,2,0:0:0:0:
340,163,133787,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,124,134129,2,0,P|475:137|511:189,1,99.9999904632569,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,215,134815,2,0,L|410:322,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,327,135329,2,0,P|296:296|187:331,1,199.999980926514,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
165,344,136187,6,0,B|113:351|113:351|67:323,1,99.9999904632569,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
85,293,136701,1,2,0:0:0:0:
97,257,136872,2,0,P|110:211|83:153,1,99.9999904632569,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,71,137558,6,0,L|215:54,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,74,138072,1,0,0:0:0:0:
258,109,138244,2,0,P|257:174|234:222,1,99.9999904632569,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
178,274,138929,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,316,139272,1,0,0:0:0:0:
341,272,139615,1,8,0:0:0:0:
366,174,139958,2,0,L|342:70,2,99.9999904632569,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
456,244,140987,5,8,0:0:0:0:
463,274,141158,2,0,P|440:315|389:338,1,99.9999904632569,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
361,326,141672,2,0,L|252:327,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
233,344,142187,2,0,P|190:355|133:337,2,99.9999904632569,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,313,143044,2,0,P|276:231|202:142,1,199.999980926514,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,161,143901,2,0,L|87:176,1,49.9999952316285,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
45,99,144415,6,0,P|67:64|144:46,1,99.9999904632569,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,49,145101,2,0,P|265:58|325:49,1,99.9999904632569,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
410,41,145787,2,0,L|362:147,1,99.9999904632569,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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180,334,147158,2,0,P|129:280|152:156,1,199.999980926514,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
173,147,148015,2,0,L|229:151,1,49.9999952316285,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
290,225,148529,6,0,P|373:272|368:127,1,299.999971389771,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
252,103,151272,6,0,B|182:141|104:100|104:100|-13:169|46:292,1,374.999964237213,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
198,321,154187,6,0,L|254:327,1,49.9999952316285,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
323,303,154872,1,0,0:0:0:0:
401,322,155215,2,0,B|449:337|449:337|442:270|442:270|478:197|421:139,1,249.999976158142
343,93,157272,2,0,L|281:87,1,49.9999952316285
205,143,157958,2,0,P|199:212|309:246,1,199.999980926514,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,159672,12,0,164987,0:0:0:0:

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DeltaLeeds

78 posts

Joined November 2015

DeltaLeeds 2016-03-06T08:32:06+00:00

Hello M4M. The map is good enough so I don't have a lot to say, don't give kds if the mod was useless...

Shmik's Easy

SPOILER

00:27:844 (1): Disable NC, NC should be constant every 8 ticks.
00:29:215 (5): NC
00:30:587 (1): Disable NC
I won't point out the rest, and it's up to you.

02:14:815 (1,2): Not parallel.
02:34:015 (1,2): Fix this overlap.

Weegle's Normal

SPOILER

00:53:215 (2): Copy 1's slider instead.
01:37:787 (4): I'd suggest that slider should approach the next slider instead of away from it. Well yeah it'll mess yo

6th's Hard

SPOILER

There's almost no hitsound in this diff...
00:23:729 (1): Put a clap or finish hitsound.
00:26:472 (1): ^
00:29:215 (1): ^
00:34:529 (8): ^
00:41:558 (1): ^
00:42:072 (2): Put a finish hitsound at the slider's head.
The point is if you hear that specific beat on the song, I'd suggest you put a finish hitsound.

00:36:758 (3,4,5): Put a clap hitsound, but for 5 just put it at the slider's head
00:38:129 (3,4,5): ^
00:40:872 (4,5,6): ^
01:05:301 (2,3): At 3 just put the clap at the arrow and the beginning of the slider.

Not much stuff to say other than this, it's a pretty good map already. ^^

Insane

SPOILER

I can't mod insane... So I'm just going to put a few things.

00:26:644 (3,7): The finish hitsounds don't fit imo.
00:36:415 (3,4,5): Put claps here, I like the sound of the claps at 00:38:129 (1,2,3,4,5) :3
00:40:701 (1,2,3,4,5): Claps, including the head and tail of slider.

Shot a star because I like the song, and I think my mod was horrible... Good luck for the map, hope it gets ranked soon! ^^

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-06T11:58:14+00:00

DeltaLeeds wrote:
Hello M4M. The map is good enough so I don't have a lot to say, don't give kds if the mod was useless...

Insane
SPOILER
I can't mod insane... So I'm just going to put a few things.
00:26:644 (3,7): The finish hitsounds don't fit imo.
00:36:415 (3,4,5): Put claps here, I like the sound of the claps at 00:38:129 (1,2,3,4,5) :3
00:40:701 (1,2,3,4,5): Claps, including the head and tail of slider.
I'll see with Classwork if he agrees with this

Shot a star because I like the song, and I think my mod was horrible... Good luck for the map, hope it gets ranked soon! ^^ Thanks a lot for the star

Thank you!

N0thingSpecial

2,355 posts

Joined November 2015

N0thingSpecial 2016-03-07T08:42:29+00:00

Just want to quickly tell you this: 02:33:929 (3) - in insane

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-07T15:02:35+00:00

N0thingSpecial wrote:
Just want to quickly tell you this: 02:33:929 (3) - in insane

Oh crap my bad lol, thanks!

P A N

2,357 posts

Joined December 2011

P A N 2016-03-08T18:20:21+00:00

irc

SPOILER

01:06 P A N: fix it please
01:06 P A N: i think i want kds
01:07 Shyotamaze: what diff for the weird rhythm
01:07 Shyotamaze: lol
01:07 P A N: hardest ofc
01:09 P A N: you added background sound here 00:23:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
01:09 P A N: but after 00:29:215 (3) - 
01:09 P A N: you didn't
01:09 P A N: but the problem is
01:09 P A N: 00:34:101 (4) - you added background sound again
01:09 Shyotamaze: yea I switch sometimes
01:09 P A N: that's weird :p
01:10 Shyotamaze: ;_;
01:10 P A N: on kiai
01:10 P A N: add clap on evey white tick is right
01:10 P A N: but you still missing some
01:11 P A N: 01:55:272 (1,2,3) - more like error spacing than intentional for various spacing
01:11 P A N: 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - if you prefer to follow that sound, 2 supposed to be 1/1 slider
01:11 P A N: ofc remove 3 and 4
01:12 P A N: 01:57:672 (5) - 1/2 slider and circle is more fit with the song
01:12 P A N: which mean remove reverse and add circle after the slider instead
01:12 P A N: 01:58:872 (2,3,4) - same with 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - 
01:13 Shyotamaze: 01:55:444 (2) - is intentional because it follows a little shape like this http://prntscr.com/acrazd
01:14 P A N: try use
01:14 P A N: turn on hit animation
01:14 P A N: you will know the truth
01:14 Shyotamaze: how
01:14 P A N: View > hit animation
01:14 P A N: on the top bar
01:14 Shyotamaze: oh yeah done
01:14 P A N: mapping is for gameplay
01:15 P A N: not editing
01:15 P A N: now you can see
01:15 P A N: your art is gone
01:15 Shyotamaze: rip
01:15 P A N: and you see that 01:55:272 (1,2,3) - is more like error spacing
01:15 P A N: :^)
01:15 Shyotamaze: yea
01:15 Shyotamaze: :(
01:16 P A N: don't be sad
01:16 P A N: XD
01:16 P A N: and replace 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - and 01:58:872 (2,3,4) - to 1/1 slider
01:16 P A N: im serious about this
01:16 P A N: now is very weird
01:17 Shyotamaze: okay
01:17 P A N: [http://puu.sh/nzpbU/d774234c10.jpg this] is what i mean
01:18 P A N: your slider is annoying imo
01:18 P A N: use [http://puu.sh/nzpf9/8db7a68f93.wav this]
01:18 P A N: paste in your song folder then copy it and renamed to other set as well
01:18 P A N: like soft-sliderslide3
01:19 P A N: k that's it for now

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-09T12:47:22+00:00

P A N wrote:

irc

SPOILER

01:06 P A N: fix it please
01:06 P A N: i think i want kds
01:07 Shyotamaze: what diff for the weird rhythm
01:07 Shyotamaze: lol
01:07 P A N: hardest ofc
01:09 P A N: you added background sound here 00:23:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
01:09 P A N: but after 00:29:215 (3) - 
01:09 P A N: you didn't
01:09 P A N: but the problem is
01:09 P A N: 00:34:101 (4) - you added background sound again
01:09 Shyotamaze: yea I switch sometimes
01:09 P A N: that's weird :p
01:10 Shyotamaze: ;_;
01:10 P A N: on kiai
01:10 P A N: add clap on evey white tick is right
01:10 P A N: but you still missing some
01:11 P A N: 01:55:272 (1,2,3) - more like error spacing than intentional for various spacing
01:11 P A N: 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - if you prefer to follow that sound, 2 supposed to be 1/1 slider
01:11 P A N: ofc remove 3 and 4
01:12 P A N: 01:57:672 (5) - 1/2 slider and circle is more fit with the song
01:12 P A N: which mean remove reverse and add circle after the slider instead
01:12 P A N: 01:58:872 (2,3,4) - same with 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - 
01:13 Shyotamaze: 01:55:444 (2) - is intentional because it follows a little shape like this http://prntscr.com/acrazd
01:14 P A N: try use
01:14 P A N: turn on hit animation
01:14 P A N: you will know the truth
01:14 Shyotamaze: how
01:14 P A N: View > hit animation
01:14 P A N: on the top bar
01:14 Shyotamaze: oh yeah done
01:14 P A N: mapping is for gameplay
01:15 P A N: not editing
01:15 P A N: now you can see
01:15 P A N: your art is gone
01:15 Shyotamaze: rip
01:15 P A N: and you see that 01:55:272 (1,2,3) - is more like error spacing
01:15 P A N: :^)
01:15 Shyotamaze: yea
01:15 Shyotamaze: :(
01:16 P A N: don't be sad
01:16 P A N: XD
01:16 P A N: and replace 01:56:129 (2,3,4) - and 01:58:872 (2,3,4) - to 1/1 slider
01:16 P A N: im serious about this
01:16 P A N: now is very weird
01:17 Shyotamaze: okay
01:17 P A N: [http://puu.sh/nzpbU/d774234c10.jpg this] is what i mean
01:18 P A N: your slider is annoying imo
01:18 P A N: use [http://puu.sh/nzpf9/8db7a68f93.wav this]
01:18 P A N: paste in your song folder then copy it and renamed to other set as well
01:18 P A N: like soft-sliderslide3
01:19 P A N: k that's it for now

Thanks for the mod even though I said a little joke about you lol

Len

Beatmap Nominator

2,836 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 2016-03-09T21:55:13+00:00

from q

General:

aimod says tag is blahblah

Easy:

00:32:644 (2) - try to avoid overlap with 00:32:644 (2) - ? it looks so messy for me
00:34:529 - add whistle instead? so loud
01:39:844 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - pls put the slider instead orz
02:24:072 (2) - what about avoiding that overlap with 02:22:358 (5) - ?
02:36:758 (2) - move to x83 y342 in order to avoid overlap

~~change the diff name to normal pls~~

Normal:

CS PLEASE

Hard:

01:25:615 (2) - move to x203 y245 and nc?
01:49:101 - add tick hs? or add note and slider instead 01:48:929 (6) -

good luck!

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-03-09T22:27:19+00:00

DeltaLeeds wrote:
Hello M4M. The map is good enough so I don't have a lot to say, don't give kds if the mod was useless...
Weegle's Normal

00:53:215 (2): Copy 1's slider instead. - it looks better blanketed
01:37:787 (4): I'd suggest that slider should approach the next slider instead of away from it. Well yeah it'll mess yo - if someone else points this out i'll change it, for now i'll take it into consideration

Thanks for the suggestions!

Len wrote:
from q

Normal:
CS PLEASE - i think it looks fine as 4.0 cs, but a lot of people says they'd prefer bigger clickies, one more person says something about cs size then i'll change i guess..

brilliant.

no changes sorry

Erasariel

24 posts

Joined June 2012

Erasariel 2016-03-09T23:34:49+00:00

Hi! M4M with Shyotamaze. Hope you'll find my suggestions of use.

Shmik's Easy

SPOILER

00:20:987 (1) - Lengthen the spinner to next red tick.

00:40:872 (6) - Personally I would lengthen the slider to the next white tick. Matches the combo's rhythm and still gives ample leeway for the new combo.

00:46:701 (6,1) - Probably save the stacking until Normal.

01:41:901 (1) - Lengthen the spinner to next white tick.

01:54:244 (3) - Slider art is great, but in this case you lose the rhythm and the slider ends awkwardly. I'd rather do standard sliders, or be fancy and make the slider do turns with every beat. See here.

02:25:787 (1,2,3,4) - I'd rather not slow the combo down - the slider art after that is enough to wind down. Following the previous combo would work.

02:28:529 (1) - You can lengthen the slider for up to the second white tick - more space to do slider art with.

Weegle's Normal

SPOILER

01:05:215 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - It kind of bothers me that this sequence crosses between bars/measures. The elongated (6) slider makes

the rest of the sequence look slow relative to the actual rhythm. At the very least convert 01:06:929 (1) to a 2-rev slider.

02:31:272 (1) - Shorten the slider to the white tick.

6th's Hard

SPOILER

00:57:329 (3,4) - Crazy, crazy idea: Why not introduce the buzzing slider from Insane here? See here.

01:04:701 (4) - I'd remove this. It's overmapping and I really can't hear a corresponding rhythm or beat to it.

01:05:301 (2,3) - Just to compliment on how well this turned out.

01:19:787 (3) - Maybe try a 3-rev slider at 01:19:615, see here.

01:41:558 (4) - I'd spice it up by shortening the slider to the red tick and inserting a five-rev slider at 01:41:901, see here.

01:48:929 (6) - Try converting this to a five-rev slider (see here) or splitting it up into two shorter sliders to match the strong bass beats.

Insane

SPOILER

01:10:358 (1) - Think it's still part of the previous combo.

01:28:401 (1) - Timing feels off. Shouldn't it be at 1:28:358?

02:18:844 (2,3) - I guess the stacking is part of the insane difficulty, but a little less stacking might make it a little more playable.

02:23:558 (1,2) - I loved those buzzing sliders from earlier. Bring them back? If you wanted to cross the map you could also convert 02:24:244 (3) into a stream.

Thank you very much for the M4M and best of luck with your map!

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-10T09:48:15+00:00

Erasariel wrote:
Hi! M4M with Shyotamaze. Hope you'll find my suggestions of use.

Insane
SPOILER
01:10:358 (1) - Think it's still part of the previous combo. Not sure about that since the NCs should be on white ticks

01:28:401 (1) - Timing feels off. Shouldn't it be at 1:28:358? Fixed

02:18:844 (2,3) - I guess the stacking is part of the insane difficulty, but a little less stacking might make it a little more playable. Spaced it a bit more

02:23:558 (1,2) - I loved those buzzing sliders from earlier. Bring them back? If you wanted to cross the map you could also convert 02:24:244 (3) into a stream. Fixed but I didn't apply your stream suggestion

Thank you very much for the M4M and best of luck with your map!

Thanks! I'll mod your map soon

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-03-10T18:01:01+00:00

@DeltaLeeds
Fixed hitsounds

SPOILER

00:57:329 (3,4) - Crazy, crazy idea: Why not introduce the buzzing slider from Insane here? See here. I don't really want to map 1/8 there, I'd need to map them all :/

01:04:701 (4) - I'd remove this. It's overmapping and I really can't hear a corresponding rhythm or beat to it. It is true that the sound here isn't really audible but it plays much better like this, I'll think about this. Good point

01:05:301 (2,3) - Just to compliment on how well this turned out. Thanks !

01:19:787 (3) - Maybe try a 3-rev slider at 01:19:615, see here. It sounds better like this imo since you can hear the same sound as (2)'s end

01:41:558 (4) - I'd spice it up by shortening the slider to the red tick and inserting a five-rev slider at 01:41:901, see here. Seems good but I feel it is irregular and a bit too much

01:48:929 (6) - Try converting this to a five-rev slider (see here) or splitting it up into two shorter sliders to match the strong bass beats. I don't really like it, but I'll think of a way to fix this

Thanks !

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-03-13T06:16:59+00:00

okay

Berkelio249

Berkelio249 2016-03-19T00:15:18+00:00

Some thoughts about Easy

36:072 Kiai maybe?
1:00:844 An spinner could be cool.
2:31:272 Start of the combo

I don´t like the combo colours. They´re quite similar

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,287 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-03-19T15:47:32+00:00

Sorry but "no" to all

Exile-

Elite Storyboarder

449 posts

Joined April 2013

Exile- 2016-03-20T16:59:49+00:00

[General]

Enable widescreen support

[Insane]

00:26:129 (9) - This note definitely needs more emphasize as it starts a new sound. Increase spacing. I would also place a NC here
00:26:987 (5,6,7,8) - Listen to this carefully:

SPOILER

00:29:901 (3,4) - stack them instead of 00:30:072 (4,1) - to emphasize new combo
00:31:787 - You can place a note here
00:34:015 (3,4,5) - You haven't place any triple before so why you place it now? If you want to keep it then make a triple from 00:33:158 (5,1) - them
00:33:329 (1) - This note needs an emphasize
00:36:415 (3,4,5) - Spacing is really inconsistent here. You used 0.8 and 1.0 DS on the same triple. I would personally descrease it to 0.6 because of the unreasonable slow down 00:36:758 (6) - here
00:37:101 (1,2) - Swap NC, 00:37:101 (1) - this note belongs to the previous sound
00:38:644 (1,2) - ^
00:38:815 (2) - More emhpasize
00:40:187 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - These streams sound the same but you used different spacing. Why?
00:44:129 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Thats not a perfect square
00:49:958 (2) -

SPOILER

00:52:015 (1,2) - swap NC or make something like this:

SPOILER

00:53:044 (4,1,2) - I would like to see them more spaced
01:04:358 (1) - You have placed a NC here but you didn't emphasize. It looks so close to the previous slider
01:08:215 (4) - Hitsound this
01:07:958 (3,4,1) - Looks very weird imo. I would rather stack 01:08:215 (4,1) - these
01:10:872 (3,4,5) - The triple drum sound needs more emphasize! Make it a bit more jumpy
01:12:758 (1,2,3) - This doesn't feel right cause these 01:12:929 (2,3) - two notes emphasize drums while 01:12:758 (1) - this note doesn't follow the drums but you have placed a NC here. I would rather make something like this:

SPOILER

01:18:072 (6) - Hey, drums have stopped on 01:17:901 (5) - this note? Why do you continue the star jumps? I would suggest you to stack it on 01:17:901 (5) -
01:36:758 (4) - This doesn't flow well with the next triple. Curve it a bit.
01:42:158 - Place a note here. It feels empty
01:49:444 (8) - This just isn't right. The previous notes of this combo follows the piano(?) sound but this one follows the bass while in the some combo. I would change this into a 1/2 slider with NC and emphasize.
01:54:929 (8) - ^
01:59:558 (2,3,4) - This shouldn't be a triple. You missed a lot of triples in this section and you suddenly make something inaudible triple. I would rather place a triple 01:59:644 - here or 01:59:987 -
02:09:329 (1) - Emphasize it
02:10:187 (2) - And here you emphasize a triple instead 02:10:015 (1) - this new combo note which follows the drums. Why?
02:24:587 (4,1) - ^
02:25:101 (4,5) - ^
02:34:015 (3) - You skipped a lot of beat here but then suddenly you want to map them 02:36:929 (1,2,3) - here.

[6th's Hard]

00:25:101 (7) - change into 2 notes and 00:24:415 (3,4) - this into a slider. Sounds a lot better
00:24:758 (5) - 00:27:501 (5) - you should emphasize these sounds. They start the second half of the combo and they're pretty audible
00:27:844 (6,7) - This doesn't sound right. Make it like in the previous combo
00:44:815 (2) - You missed a stream here
00:49:787 (1) - Change to 2 notes. They're so audible
00:52:358 (8) - make something like this since the big white tick starts a new combo here. You can't just place an arrow

SPOILER

00:57:501 - don't omit this red tick. Place a reverse arrow.
01:13:444 (1) - This shape looks unsightly. How about this?

SPOILER

01:17:215 (1,2) - Drum sounds needs more emphasize. Change them to circles instead of 01:16:872 (6,7) - these notes which are less audible.
01:41:901 - Make it clickable
01:48:415 (4) - Silence slider's end
01:56:644 -

SPOILER

02:01:101 (1) - This definitely needs more emphasize

[Weegle's Normal]

First of all, Normal diff should have constant spacing (Guidelines). It must be readable for begginers. And what we have here?

SPOILER

It needs to be fixed
00:57:844 - Place a note here. It feels really empty.
01:09:672 (5) - Please don't place more than one reverse arrow
01:10:872 - Missed drum sound.

[Shmik's Easy]

00:31:615 (5,2) - Avoid overlaps like these on Easy
00:46:701 (6,1) - 1/1 stacks on Easy are unrankable from what I know..
01:06:244 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - You can do something more interesting than just 1/1 slider spam!
02:14:815 (1,2) - Make them parallel
02:28:187 (5,1) - Ahh, just because you have to use constant DS it doesn't mean that you have to make such overlaps. Place it manually that it would have the same spacing like 02:27:844 (4,5) - here. Don't care about the AIMod.

Good luck! ^^

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-20T22:41:46+00:00

Exile- wrote:
[General]

Enable widescreen support Fixed

[Insane]

00:26:129 (9) - This note definitely needs more emphasize as it starts a new sound. Increase spacing. I would also place a NC here Not sure where I could put the note with a bigger spacing, fixed NC
00:26:987 (5,6,7,8) - Listen to this carefully: Fixed
SPOILER
00:29:901 (3,4) - stack them instead of 00:30:072 (4,1) - to emphasize new combo Fixed
00:31:787 - You can place a note here Sure
00:34:015 (3,4,5) - You haven't place any triple before so why you place it now? If you want to keep it then make a triple from 00:33:158 (5,1) - them Made another triple
00:33:329 (1) - This note needs an emphasize Remapped that part
00:36:415 (3,4,5) - Spacing is really inconsistent here. You used 0.8 and 1.0 DS on the same triple. I would personally descrease it to 0.6 because of the unreasonable slow down 00:36:758 (6) - here ^
00:37:101 (1,2) - Swap NC, 00:37:101 (1) - this note belongs to the previous sound Fixed
00:38:644 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
00:38:815 (2) - More emhpasize Fixed
00:40:187 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - These streams sound the same but you used different spacing. Why? Fixed
00:44:129 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Thats not a perfect square It is, you just can't see it because of the stacking
00:49:958 (2) - I'll keep my pattern
SPOILER
00:52:015 (1,2) - swap NC or make something like this: Swapped NC
SPOILER
00:53:044 (4,1,2) - I would like to see them more spaced Fixed
01:04:358 (1) - You have placed a NC here but you didn't emphasize. It looks so close to the previous slider Fixed
01:08:215 (4) - Hitsound this I'll see about this since I'm not the expert at hitsounds
01:07:958 (3,4,1) - Looks very weird imo. I would rather stack 01:08:215 (4,1) - these Fixed
01:10:872 (3,4,5) - The triple drum sound needs more emphasize! Make it a bit more jumpy Fixed
01:12:758 (1,2,3) - This doesn't feel right cause these 01:12:929 (2,3) - two notes emphasize drums while 01:12:758 (1) - this note doesn't follow the drums but you have placed a NC here. I would rather make something like this: Fixed
SPOILER
01:18:072 (6) - Hey, drums have stopped on 01:17:901 (5) - this note? Why do you continue the star jumps? I would suggest you to stack it on 01:17:901 (5) - I'll keep it as it is now, your suggestion makes it a bit harder to read
01:36:758 (4) - This doesn't flow well with the next triple. Curve it a bit. Fixed
01:42:158 - Place a note here. It feels empty No sound to map here
01:49:444 (8) - This just isn't right. The previous notes of this combo follows the piano(?) sound but this one follows the bass while in the some combo. I would change this into a 1/2 slider with NC and emphasize. Fixed
01:54:929 (8) - ^ ^
01:59:558 (2,3,4) - This shouldn't be a triple. You missed a lot of triples in this section and you suddenly make something inaudible triple. I would rather place a triple 01:59:644 - here or 01:59:987 - Fixed
02:09:329 (1) - Emphasize it Fixed
02:10:187 (2) - And here you emphasize a triple instead 02:10:015 (1) - this new combo note which follows the drums. Why? Fixed
02:24:587 (4,1) - ^ ^
02:25:101 (4,5) - ^ ^
02:34:015 (3) - You skipped a lot of beat here but then suddenly you want to map them 02:36:929 (1,2,3) - here. Not sure about this part, I'll see if I get more people asking me to change it

Good luck! ^^

Thank you! It helped a lot, it took me a while to change some things though, hope you don't mind if I mod your map tomorrow because it's late here

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-03-21T18:27:08+00:00

SPOILER

[6th's Hard]

00:25:101 (7) - change into 2 notes and 00:24:415 (3,4) - this into a slider. Sounds a lot better
00:24:758 (5) - 00:27:501 (5) - you should emphasize these sounds. They start the second half of the combo and they're pretty audible
00:27:844 (6,7) - This doesn't sound right. Make it like in the previous combo changed
00:44:815 (2) - You missed a stream here
00:49:787 (1) - Change to 2 notes. They're so audible
00:52:358 (8) - make something like this since the big white tick starts a new combo here. You can't just place an arrow
00:57:501 - don't omit this red tick. Place a reverse arrow. changed
01:13:444 (1) - This shape looks unsightly.
01:17:215 (1,2) - Drum sounds needs more emphasize. Change them to circles instead of 01:16:872 (6,7) - these notes which are less audible.
01:41:901 - Make it clickable Useless imo
01:48:415 (4) - Silence slider's end
01:56:644 - Changed
02:01:101 (1) - This definitely needs more emphasize

Thanks

- Milhofo -

683 posts

Joined February 2014

- Milhofo - 2016-03-22T11:57:30+00:00

Hey, from your M4M queue

[Shmik's Easy]

00:20:987 (1) - this spinner is a bit short for an easy diff, maybe it would be possible to start it a bit sooner?
00:25:787 (4,1) - this isn't bad, but for easy diffs try to stay away from flow like this when you can (transitions narrower than 90º)
00:31:615 (5,2) - this isn't perfectly stacked
00:42:929 (3,4,1) - this doesn't flow that well, maybe instead of stacking 00:44:301 (1) - you could blanket it outside of 00:42:244 (2) - 's sliderend
00:44:987 (2,3,4,5,6) - for easy diffs it's just better to use straight, simple patterns, that create a continuous flow throughout the map, so a circle shape would be better on this section instead of those little triangle jumps (same goes for other patterns like this)
00:46:701 (6,1) - you should only use 1/1 stacks from normal diff and up (ranking criteria)
00:58:015 (1,1) - in theory those notes aren't really mapping anything, but I guess it fits since you can't use 1/2 timing
01:17:215 (1) - it would feel better to reverse this slider to fit with the drum beat on this part, and because the note at 01:18:244 - is really strong so it should be clickable
01:34:701 (2,1) - you could avoid this overlap by just changing (1)'s position
01:59:044 (2,3,4) - bad flow, should be avoided
02:08:644 (4) - ctrl+j and reposition? this pattern is fine for normal diffs and up but for an easy it might be too much
02:07:958 (3,4) - sliders should have the same shape
02:12:072 (1,2) - both could be blanketing 02:11:387 (5) - and 02:14:129 (5) -
02:22:358 (5,2) - this overlap is very visible when playing and should be avoided
02:28:187 (5,1) - even if the slider velocity changes, you should keep the same spacing, this is very confusing for new players

[Weegle's Normal]

00:20:987 (1) - spinner is a bit too close to the first note, in normal you should at least leave two 1/1 beats of distance
00:25:787 (7,1) - this isn't too bad, but I think you could achieve better flow by rotating (7) upwards, so that the flow into (1) wouldn't feel so forced
00:31:101 (5,1,2) - spacing here is really confusing, this is too close to 00:28:701 (6,1,2) - but the timing is different, spacing should be consistent over the whole difficulty in normal
00:38:815 (1,2,3) - flow can be improved by pulling (2) down and reducing the curvature of (3)
00:57:844 - I think you should add a note here, it's a pretty important beat, even though it's on a red tick
01:09:672 (5) - this is the only part where you use a double reverse, which is really confusing, wondering why it's there
01:12:072 (1) - curving this would improve the flow into 01:12:929 (2,3) -
01:14:129 (4,5,1) - in a normal difficulty the max number of notes you should stack is two, three is a bit too hard to read for normal
02:05:901 (6,7,1) - the angle on this pattern is a bit too hard, it also almost makes (6) and (1) overlap
02:28:529 (1) - I'm not sure about this but I think this change of slider velocity isn't allowed since it's too big of a difference, you should check with someone more experienced though

[6th's Hard]

00:42:072 (2,3) - maybe you could make them have the same shape? feels weird to have them side by side like this
00:44:301 (1,6) - you can blanket this, and even the flow would improve
00:52:872 (1) - why the new combo here? I don't feel like anything justifies a NC here
01:13:101 (9) - I fell like the NC should start here instead of 01:13:444 (1) -
01:17:215 (7) - new combo
01:19:615 - missing note here, you could even add a triple on 01:19:701 -
01:39:158 - hitsounds are way too low here
01:41:729 - you could finish the slider here and add a note on 01:41:901 - , then map the sounds until 01:42:244 - because now this part feels undermapped
01:56:987 (1,2,3) - weird flow, maybe curving (1) would help
02:01:787 (3,4) - more weird flow, just rotating (3) would fix it
02:19:272 (1) - why the new combo here?
02:19:272 (1,2,3) - the should have the same spacing between each other (I don't mean the snapping divisor here, just the distance between slider bodies)
02:19:958 (3,3) - you can curve (3) a bit more to avoid the overlap
some weird flow here and there, in parts like 00:48:072 (3,1) - and 00:54:587 (6,7,1) - , but cool diff either way

[Insane]

00:29:901 (3,4,4) - maybe you could try to stack these?
00:39:501 (1) - imo this NC isn't really needed, I think you have too many combos on this section
00:44:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:49:958 (2,1) - maybe use the same angle between these? would improve flow into 00:50:815 (2,3,4,5,1) -
00:52:015 (4,1) - idk if it's stacked or not, but this feels way too close
00:54:587 (1) - why NC with only 4 combo on the previous one?
01:06:415 (2,3,4,5,1) - one could be more centered between the triple and (5), would look a lot better
01:19:615 (6,1) - weird flow, I think it would be better to rotate (6) towards the next note instead of the stream, would make more sense to improve flow into (1)
01:35:387 (5) - you could add some variations to the stream to highlight the changes in the sound like in this note and 01:35:729 (9) -
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this stream highlights them pretty well
01:41:901 (1) - wouldn't a 1/4 triple fit better here?
01:55:615 (4) - new combo should start here and not on 01:55:958 (1) -
02:34:015 (3,1) - you should keep a 1/4 distance here too like in 02:31:358 (2,3) - to keep consistency
02:37:215 (2) - this note is on 02:37:215 (2) - with 1/6 timing, it's currently wrongly timed
02:37:444 (3) - this note also feels like it starts on 02:37:526 - instead, sounds a lot better

Sorry for beeing late, and good luck with the set!

Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-22T16:56:29+00:00

- Milhofo - wrote:
Hey, from your M4M queue

[Insane]
00:29:901 (3,4,4) - maybe you could try to stack these? Fixed
00:39:501 (1) - imo this NC isn't really needed, I think you have too many combos on this section Fixed
00:44:987 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ NCed somewhere else
00:49:958 (2,1) - maybe use the same angle between these? would improve flow into 00:50:815 (2,3,4,5,1) - Rotated it a bit
00:52:015 (4,1) - idk if it's stacked or not, but this feels way too close Fixed
00:54:587 (1) - why NC with only 4 combo on the previous one? Fixed
01:06:415 (2,3,4,5,1) - one could be more centered between the triple and (5), would look a lot better Fixed
01:19:615 (6,1) - weird flow, I think it would be better to rotate (6) towards the next note instead of the stream, would make more sense to improve flow into (1) Fixed
01:35:387 (5) - you could add some variations to the stream to highlight the changes in the sound like in this note and 01:35:729 (9) - Fixed
01:37:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this stream highlights them pretty well Thanks
01:41:901 (1) - wouldn't a 1/4 triple fit better here? No, listen with 25%
01:55:615 (4) - new combo should start here and not on 01:55:958 (1) - Fixed
02:34:015 (3,1) - you should keep a 1/4 distance here too like in 02:31:358 (2,3) - to keep consistency Fixed
02:37:215 (2) - this note is on 02:37:215 (2) - with 1/6 timing, it's currently wrongly timed Wrong copy/paste I guess since they are both at the same time or maybe I just don't get what you mean
02:37:444 (3) - this note also feels like it starts on 02:37:526 - instead, sounds a lot better Fixed
Sorry for beeing late, and good luck with the set!

Thank you!

6th

616 posts

Joined December 2014

6th 2016-03-22T20:02:54+00:00

SPOILER

6th's Hard
00:42:072 (2,3) - maybe you could make them have the same shape? feels weird to have them side by side like this
00:44:301 (1,6) - you can blanket this, and even the flow would improve It is fine
00:52:872 (1) - why the new combo here? I don't feel like anything justifies a NC here
01:13:101 (9) - I fell like the NC should start here instead of 01:13:444 (1) -
01:17:215 (7) - new combo
01:19:615 - missing note here, you could even add a triple on 01:19:701 -
01:39:158 - hitsounds are way too low here
01:41:729 - you could finish the slider here and add a note on 01:41:901 - , then map the sounds until 01:42:244 - because now this part feels undermapped I don't like it so much
01:56:987 (1,2,3) - weird flow, maybe curving (1) would help Totally playable I think
02:01:787 (3,4) - more weird flow, just rotating (3) would fix it Fixed
02:19:272 (1) - why the new combo here?
02:19:272 (1,2,3) - the should have the same spacing between each other (I don't mean the snapping divisor here, just the distance between slider bodies)
02:19:958 (3,3) - you can curve (3) a bit more to avoid the overlap
some weird flow here and there, in parts like 00:48:072 (3,1) - and 00:54:587 (6,7,1) - , but cool diff either way

Thanks

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-03-22T20:30:30+00:00

IM FINALLY FIXING THE DISTANCE SPACING OMFG IM ACTUALLY NOT FEELING LAZY

Erasariel wrote:
Hi! M4M with Shyotamaze. Hope you'll find my suggestions of use.

[Weegle's Normal]

01:05:215 (4,5,6,1,2,3) - It kind of bothers me that this sequence crosses between bars/measures. The elongated (6) slider makes

the rest of the sequence look slow relative to the actual rhythm. At the very least convert 01:06:929 (1) to a 2-rev slider. - I think it looks fine

02:31:272 (1) - Shorten the slider to the white tick. - fix

Thank you very much for the M4M and best of luck with your map!

Thanks for mod!

Exile- wrote:
[Weegle's Normal]

First of all, Normal diff should have constant spacing (Guidelines). It must be readable for begginers. And what we have here? - i fixed it i fixed it okay okay!!
SPOILER

^^^ ALL FIXED ^^^

00:57:844 - Place a note here. It feels really empty. - fixed
01:09:672 (5) - Please don't place more than one reverse arrow - fixed
01:10:872 - Missed drum sound. - whoops fix

Good luck! ^^

Thanks for mod!

- Milhofo - wrote:
Hey, from your M4M queue

[Weegle's Normal]

00:20:987 (1) - spinner is a bit too close to the first note, in normal you should at least leave two 1/1 beats of distance - fixed it
00:25:787 (7,1) - this isn't too bad, but I think you could achieve better flow by rotating (7) upwards, so that the flow into (1) wouldn't feel so forced - fixed
00:31:101 (5,1,2) - spacing here is really confusing, this is too close to 00:28:701 (6,1,2) - but the timing is different, spacing should be consistent over the whole difficulty in normal - fixed all spacing issues
00:38:815 (1,2,3) - flow can be improved by pulling (2) down and reducing the curvature of (3) - good idea
00:57:844 - I think you should add a note here, it's a pretty important beat, even though it's on a red tick - fixed
01:09:672 (5) - this is the only part where you use a double reverse, which is really confusing, wondering why it's there - fixed
01:12:072 (1) - curving this would improve the flow into 01:12:929 (2,3) - fixed
01:14:129 (4,5,1) - in a normal difficulty the max number of notes you should stack is two, three is a bit too hard to read for normal - changed to slider
02:05:901 (6,7,1) - the angle on this pattern is a bit too hard, it also almost makes (6) and (1) overlap -
02:28:529 (1) - I'm not sure about this but I think this change of slider velocity isn't allowed since it's too big of a difference, you should check with someone more experienced though - I feel like the way i used it wont confuse inexperienced players much but if someone else mentions this i'll consider changing it

Sorry for being late, and good luck with the set!

Thanks for mod!

easy diff is catching up to my normal difficulty (star wise)
if it is requested i might remap even more to increase difficulty

SUPER COLOSSAL MEGA ULTRA SUPER COOL UPDATE WITH A LOT OF FIXES AND NO MORE DS PROBLEMS!

SPOILER

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Shyotamaze

927 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-24T10:00:14+00:00

WARNING: Shmiklak asked me to remove his difficulty, don't mod it anymore please

EDIT: Added my own Easy diff, you can mod now

LMT

536 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2016-03-27T15:34:12+00:00

Insane is insanely good

. Just a few things that might improve things just a tad bit.

Insane

00:29:215 (3) - This note should be emphasised at least with a new combo, preferably some more spacing.
00:31:787 (2) - You've been following the synth line but this is from the drum line.
00:34:101 (4,5) - There aren't any sounds here, are there?
00:52:272 (1,2,3) - Jumps here could be fun. I'm just suggesting here, it plays just fine as it is.
00:53:729 (2) - You could use like 4-note singletaps here that could be fun. It might be too tricky.
00:54:758 (6) - same as above, some rhythmic complexity could be exploited here but then again it might be too hard.
01:56:129 (3) - both the synth and drum lines have pretty prominent sounds here so I think it's slightly undermapped.
01:58:872 (3) - same here
02:01:101 (2) - This note gives me a creepy feeling and I think it's better if it's emphasised by adding some spacing to it. This is very subjective.
02:15:501 (1,2,3,4,5) - I wouldn't mind if these were some back and forth jumps. Again this is subjective.
02:17:558 (2) - Some drum sounds are neglected here.
02:19:444 (1) - should be a buzz slider as well since 02:19:101 (4) - is identical.
02:19:958 (1) - same
02:27:672 (3,5) - these two as well.

That's all I can find. ^^ Most of those are just suggestions so it may or may not work, so let's give it a try

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Shyotamaze

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Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-03-27T17:23:31+00:00

LMT1996 wrote:
Insane is insanely good . Just a few things that might improve things just a tad bit.
Insane
00:29:215 (3) - This note should be emphasised at least with a new combo, preferably some more spacing. NCed, I'll see for the spacing later
00:31:787 (2) - You've been following the synth line but this is from the drum line. I want to keep it even if it is from another instrument
00:34:101 (4,5) - There aren't any sounds here, are there? WTF pp mapper what is this overmap pls ban, fixed
00:52:272 (1,2,3) - Jumps here could be fun. I'm just suggesting here, it plays just fine as it is. I don't think making jumps in a stream would be a great idea here lol
00:53:729 (2) - You could use like 4-note singletaps here that could be fun. It might be too tricky. The rhythm is 1/3 here, putting notes instead of a slider would kill the accuracy of the player
00:54:758 (6) - same as above, some rhythmic complexity could be exploited here but then again it might be too hard. I could put some jumps here but I like how it is now, I might add some if more people tell me
01:56:129 (3) - both the synth and drum lines have pretty prominent sounds here so I think it's slightly undermapped. The sounds in the slider were mapped before but someone told me that the rhythm is too weird and the instrument that I'm mapping to change too much so idk I'll see
01:58:872 (3) - same here ^
02:01:101 (2) - This note gives me a creepy feeling and I think it's better if it's emphasised by adding some spacing to it. This is very subjective. Fixed
02:15:501 (1,2,3,4,5) - I wouldn't mind if these were some back and forth jumps. Again this is subjective. Adding jumps in a stream would be weird, it's fine how it is imo
02:17:558 (2) - Some drum sounds are neglected here. I like how it is now, I'll see if I get more complains
02:19:444 (1) - should be a buzz slider as well since 02:19:101 (4) - is identical. Fixed
02:19:958 (1) - same ^
02:27:672 (3,5) - these two as well. Not sure about them, I like how they are now, I'll see if I get more complains again
That's all I can find. ^^ Most of those are just suggestions so it may or may not work, so let's give it a try .

Thanks!

Naxess

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Naxess 2016-03-28T16:13:50+00:00

From Queue

Easy

SPOILER

00:20:987 (1) - This spinner is a tad short and can be quite sudden, I'd recommend increasing it's length another two white ticks at least.
01:41:901 (1) - Again, the spinner might be a little short and it has room for expansion.
00:30:587 - This slider ends on a large white tick. In general, large white ticks should be clickable, because it usually represents a loud sound in the song. It doesn't make sense to lift your finger. Consider doing something like this instead:

Actually, you managed to solve this problem later in the song. Compare this spot with 02:01:101 (1) .
00:39:844 (3) - Same here
00:27:844 (3) - This is inconsistent with 00:25:101 (3) , although this may be intentional.
01:55:615 (1) and 00:23:729 (1) - These parts of the song are instrumentally same, but do not match. Again, this may be intentional, just thought I'd let you know.
According to AImod this map fits within the normal difficulty category, though I've come to believe this is normal with many easy maps, since going below 1.5 stars can be quite difficult while still keeping the essence of the song.

6th's Hard

SPOILER

This map has a beat snap divisor of 1/4, while the easy map has a beat snap divisor of 1/3. This in turn makes the mapset look unprofessional.

00:24:758 (4,5,6,7) - Stacks generally become very tedious when mixed with non-stacks, consider dividing them up a bit throughout the song so the player can prepare for them better. I'd suggest doing like you did just a few seconds later at 00:28:187 (2,3,4,5,6)
00:38:129 (3,4,5,6) - I'd recommend refraining from using short and quick streams with many notes like this. It's very difficult for the player to count the circles, to know how many times they have to click, while playing, especially at such high speed. Another argument for this would be that the player must click and lift rapidly and then suddenly hold while trying to tell the slider and the circles apart. Consider dividing this into two stacks of two notes as such:

00:45:072 (3,4,5,6) - Do something similar here.
02:06:929 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same here.
02:13:444 (1,2) | 02:14:644 (6,7) | 02:16:272 (1,2) | 02:18:758 (4,5) | 02:25:444 (8,9,10) - Perhaps here as well, not that it's specifically needed here or anything, but it allows the player to recognize the pattern from their previous encounters with it.
01:05:729 (4,1) - These are not stacked.
01:19:701 (5,6) - These notes are too close to the previous slider in my opinion, I'd move them slightly.

For these two, refer to 02:31:272 (1,1,1) .
01:22:872 (1,2,1) - These sliders are placed on red ticks, which is generally confusing for the player.
01:22:872 (1,2) - Overlap

01:41:558 (4) - This large white tick is not clickable, consider doing something like this:

Shyotamaze

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Shyotamaze 2016-03-28T23:06:44+00:00

Naxess wrote:
From Queue

Easy
SPOILER
00:20:987 (1) - This spinner is a tad short and can be quite sudden, I'd recommend increasing it's length another two white ticks at least. Fixed
01:41:901 (1) - Again, the spinner might be a little short and it has room for expansion. Fixed
00:30:587 - This slider ends on a large white tick. In general, large white ticks should be clickable, because it usually represents a loud sound in the song. It doesn't make sense to lift your finger. Consider doing something like this instead:

Actually, you managed to solve this problem later in the song. Compare this spot with 02:01:101 (1) . Fixed
00:39:844 (3) - Same here Fixed
00:27:844 (3) - This is inconsistent with 00:25:101 (3) , although this may be intentional. I don't really get what you mean
01:55:615 (1) and 00:23:729 (1) - These parts of the song are instrumentally same, but do not match. Again, this may be intentional, just thought I'd let you know. If I get more complains about it I'll fix it, I like how it is now
According to AImod this map fits within the normal difficulty category, though I've come to believe this is normal with many easy maps, since going below 1.5 stars can be quite difficult while still keeping the essence of the song.

Thank you!

6th

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6th 2016-04-01T12:42:34+00:00

Naxess wrote:
From Queue

6th's Hard
SPOILER
This map has a beat snap divisor of 1/4, while the easy map has a beat snap divisor of 1/3. This in turn makes the mapset look unprofessional.

00:24:758 (4,5,6,7) - Stacks generally become very tedious when mixed with non-stacks, consider dividing them up a bit throughout the song so the player can prepare for them better. I'd suggest doing like you did just a few seconds later at 00:28:187 (2,3,4,5,6) I think they're fine
00:38:129 (3,4,5,6) - I'd recommend refraining from using short and quick streams with many notes like this. It's very difficult for the player to count the circles, to know how many times they have to click, while playing, especially at such high speed. Another argument for this would be that the player must click and lift rapidly and then suddenly hold while trying to tell the slider and the circles apart. Consider dividing this into two stacks of two notes as such Stacking them is even worse to read imo :/
00:45:072 (3,4,5,6) - Do something similar here.
02:06:929 (2,3,4,5,6) - Same here.
02:13:444 (1,2) | 02:14:644 (6,7) | 02:16:272 (1,2) | 02:18:758 (4,5) | 02:25:444 (8,9,10) - Perhaps here as well, not that it's specifically needed here or anything, but it allows the player to recognize the pattern from their previous encounters with it.
01:05:729 (4,1) - These are not stacked. They are :/
01:19:701 (5,6) - These notes are too close to the previous slider in my opinion, I'd move them slightly. I like it as it is, sorry

For these two, refer to 02:31:272 (1,1,1) .
01:22:872 (1,2,1) - These sliders are placed on red ticks, which is generally confusing for the player.

01:41:558 (4) - This large white tick is not clickable, consider doing something like this

Thanks !

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2016-04-03T06:55:44+00:00

lmfao took me long enough to get to this

love me some MIDI horn sounds lmfao

Overall:
The combocolors are like fucking thanksgiving like you could give more depth. There's lots of nice colors in the background that can fit into the map without looking out of place. Try adding more diversity.

Insane:
00:26:643 (4) - why these finishes though. There's no cymbal indicating the necessity for a finish. Apply to all similar patterns.
00:34:529 (1) - If you could quiet down this sliderslide that'd be fantastic.
For the section after that, using hitnormals sound a lot better than using softclaps honestly lol
01:42:501 - Cool place to add a spinner instead of this random blank space.
01:51:501 - Don't forget to keep hitsounding consistently
02:31:358 (2) - the thing is though is that the horns come in on the downbeat, the big white tick. Have sliders start there. Players aren't going to want to click on a blue tick, it's just unnatural

The patterns are pretty okay and the map is kind of fitting to the style, but the hitsounding needs a LOT of work. It sucks when dealing with a map so intensive like this, because I can't really give advice other than "follow the drums and use more diverse hitsounds", because there's no consistent way to actually achieve this. I gave some pointers but honestly it's going to take a lot of busy work to truly make the hitsounds match the beatmap.

Hard:
00:28:187 (2) - but why this jump like you don't need this
Same things about hitsounding as I said in insane. Not going to point out much so that I can keep this brief but yeah, take a look at the suggestions I made there and apply it to this too. This maps problem is moreso the fact that you LACK hitsounds a lot of the time, which is no good, especially when you're mapping to the drums
01:22:872 (1) - sliderbodies covering sliderheads is icky please do not do this.
01:44:644 - this is hitsounded nicely good job.

Normal:
01:19:958 - this is a really abnormally long break compared to the other diffs lol. Like at least do something here. I know there's not much, but you could copy the format of the hard and insane.

Easy:
Same thing about the break in normal
00:23:729 (1) - technically there needs to be more time after the spinner before the next note.

It's a good start but you made the mistake of choosing a song that needs really in-depth knowledge of hitsounding in order to be good lol

Shyotamaze

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Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-04-04T10:55:06+00:00

Reditum wrote:
lmfao took me long enough to get to this

love me some MIDI horn sounds lmfao

Overall:
The combocolors are like fucking thanksgiving like you could give more depth. There's lots of nice colors in the background that can fit into the map without looking out of place. Try adding more diversity.

Insane:
00:26:643 (4) - why these finishes though. There's no cymbal indicating the necessity for a finish. Apply to all similar patterns. For hitsounds I'll ask Classwork
00:34:529 (1) - If you could quiet down this sliderslide that'd be fantastic. Fixed
For the section after that, using hitnormals sound a lot better than using softclaps honestly lol Same as before
01:42:501 - Cool place to add a spinner instead of this random blank space. Fixed
01:51:501 - Don't forget to keep hitsounding consistently Same as before
02:31:358 (2) - the thing is though is that the horns come in on the downbeat, the big white tick. Have sliders start there. Players aren't going to want to click on a blue tick, it's just unnatural Not sure about this one, I'll see

The patterns are pretty okay and the map is kind of fitting to the style, but the hitsounding needs a LOT of work. It sucks when dealing with a map so intensive like this, because I can't really give advice other than "follow the drums and use more diverse hitsounds", because there's no consistent way to actually achieve this. I gave some pointers but honestly it's going to take a lot of busy work to truly make the hitsounds match the beatmap.

Easy:
Same thing about the break in normal idk I'll see about this
00:23:729 (1) - technically there needs to be more time after the spinner before the next note. Fixed I think

It's a good start but you made the mistake of choosing a song that needs really in-depth knowledge of hitsounding in order to be good lol

Thanks and sorry for the late reply!

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Squichu 2016-04-19T20:27:36+00:00

Hey there!
mod as you requested--
I'm just making suggestions, feel free to disagree

General

I think you should add a silent sliderslide or at least use a quieter one, the current one is quiet disturbing at some points, 00:27:501 (10,4) - and 00:30:415 (7,1) - in Insane for example. There are many more in this diff and in others, too.. >:

Easy

00:20:987 (1,1) - recovery time between spinner and object needs to be at least 4 beats in Easy diffs (it's 2 beats in Normal, 1 in Hard). You could either end the spinner at 00:22:358 - or replace it with a long slider, up to you!
same for 01:41:901 (1,1) -
hmmh, overall the diff still looks pretty random. There are many similar rhythms that are mapped completely different which should be at least kinda consistent.
Also some rhythms don't match the melody at all, just as an example: 00:30:587 (3,4) - with strong beats on the sliderhead and the reverse and the red ticks and no strong sounds at all on the sliderend and the circle, so it would make much more sense to use a 3/2 slider and leave the rest blank.
Atm there also are very long parts with nothing but 1/1 sliders.. while that's kinda easy to play, it's not especially fun and doesn't work well with the melody.. take 02:12:072 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - as an example! There are many other ways in which you could map this part (and also many other parts) to make it more interesting and fit the melody better at the same time.
and some NC mistakes. 02:05:215 (1) - should be removed; 02:20:301 (5) - add NC here; 02:31:272 (2) - and add one here too, also at 02:36:758 (2) -
02:28:529 (1,2,1,2) - about these long sliders at the end.. try to make them intreact with each other. They look really out of place atm. (The ones in Insane look really nicely, maybe just use something similar?)
Also 02:36:758 (2) - shouldn't have a reverse, there's no strong sound there and also it's the same melody as the prev slider, so doesn't make sense to map it differently

Ye, I'm not going too much into detail here because it needs some more mods to improve rhythm and add more variety.

Weegle's Normal

Consider changing CS to 3.5, 4 is a little harsh considering density and the bpm of the song, imo.. also Hard uses 3.8 CS, so spread-wise it'd make more sense if circles were a little bigger in Normal than in Hard. Up to you ofcourse!
00:20:987 (1,1) - You need two beats recovery time in Normal, please end the spinner one white tick earlier!
00:24:415 (3,4,5,6,7) - It would be nice if (3) and (5) were different from (7), because the rhythm is different. I suggest using two 3/2 sliders instead of (3,4) and (5,6), the you follow the whole melody and don't split it up
also this rhytm should be more consistent with 00:27:158 (3,4,5) - , it's very similar. Especially (5) doesn't make much sense here because it's skipping several strogn beats that were better emphasized before
00:29:558 (2) - reverse slider doesn't work well here, I think, because you ignore the strong beats on the red ticks, while the slider ends on nothing. Maybe try two 1/2 sliders instead?
Similar for 00:30:587 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/ookMZ.jpg to emphasize strong beats better
also similar 00:33:329 (5,6,7) - you could shorten (5) by 1/2 and delete (6)
00:36:758 (3) - here new sound starts on the downbeat so circle instead of reverse would be nice
00:53:901 (3,4,5) - (3,4) work pretty well, I'm not too sure about (5), tho. There's no such strong sounds as on the other two so just a circle matches better with the melody, imo
01:05:901 (6) - new sound on downbeat, try circle + 1/1 slider instead? (and move NC to downbeat)
01:08:987 (4) - missing NC
01:11:558 (9) - since both strong beats before this are clickable (01:10:872 (7,8) - ) I think this downbeat should be, too. consider replacing this with a circle on downbeat
01:13:101 (3) - sounds weird that you ignore the beat on the white tick in the middle, any reason for that?
01:17:215 (1) - meeh. This really isn't well readable for players at this skill level. You could just use two 1/2 sliders instead.. I know, it's sad, because reverse sliders are cool. I use them a lot myself.. but in Normal.. would be okay if this were 1/1 rhythm, but 1/2.. players can't read the second reverse that fast
01:56:301 (3) - consider splitting this up.. simplifying rhythms works nicely if it's done consequently, but since you didn't simplify the surrounding objects this feels too random, imo.
02:12:072 - something went wrong with NCs here;
02:12:072 (6) - should have NC
02:13:443 (1) - shouldn't have one
02:14:815 (5) - here should be next NC
02:16:187 (1) - and remove it here
02:21:672 (3,4,5) - (3) and (5) are visible at the same time, so they shouldn't be stacked to avoid any confusion (imo)
02:24:415 (1,2) - intriducing stacks this late in the diff seems a little weird.. consider unstacking this for consistency (or add more stacks earlier?)
02:34:187 (1,2,3,4,5) - there should be some consistency between these patterns; it's the same rhythm. maybe http://puu.sh/ooq3m.jpg ?

6th's Hard

looks like combos sometimes are getting a little too long.. Idk, might just be a personal preferance but I think the diff would benefit from putting NC on each downbeat instead of each second in the beginning. I get a better overview if comcbos are kept short, but really might just be me.
00:42:929 (4) - and since you change to NC each downbeat this should probably have one, too?
00:45:672 (1) - move this a little so it doesn't overlap with 00:45:072 (3,4,5) - ?
00:52:358 (4,1) - this is a little too boring to play, imo.. you don't have to moev it all to hit these perfectly, but at least some kind of movement would be nice
01:05:729 (4,1) - any reason for the stack here? Seems rather random, I'd prefer if they were unstacked
01:11:729 (5) - missing NC
01:19:787 (6) - consider turning this into a slider? There's this on-going sound in the background so ending this so abruptly is a bit surprising, imo
01:44:644 - same about NCs again, one each downbeat would be nice (imo). (You also randomly switch to that for a combo or two and then go back to 2 downbeats?)
02:10:529 (4,1) - previously you NC'd the object that covers the downbeat, not the one following, so NC should be on (4) instead, I think

Otherwise great diff, fun to play! <:

Insane

Looks really nice overall! I just wonder why you space so many 1/4s differently? I've seen 0.8 and 0.4, then 0.5 and 0.6 and 0.3 and 0.2..
I mean if it's just .1 difference it's not noticeable, but 0.8 to 0.4 is.. and imo would be better if you space all of them consistenly. Looks better structured and avoids confusion 100% >w<
01:39:158 (1) - to 01:41:387 (11) - looks like it's just a copy of prev pattern (01:33:672 (1) - to 01:35:901 (11) - )? Please rotate the second pattern some more or flip it completely so it's not exactly the same
02:14:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these are a little weird to play, imo.. it's just out of the blue.. I think might be good to use sliders instead so they're not as punishing as they're now. Also the only time a rhythm like this is used, hmmh.. I'm not too happy with it but I can't come up with a nice alternative except for the sliders.. maybe you can find something different? >:

Hope I could help out!
//squee

Shyotamaze

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Topic Starter

Shyotamaze 2016-04-19T21:10:00+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
Hey there!
mod as you requested--
I'm just making suggestions, feel free to disagree

General
I think you should add a silent sliderslide or at least use a quieter one, the current one is quiet disturbing at some points, 00:27:501 (10,4) - and 00:30:415 (7,1) - in Insane for example. There are many more in this diff and in others, too.. >: Fixed
Easy
00:20:987 (1,1) - recovery time between spinner and object needs to be at least 4 beats in Easy diffs (it's 2 beats in Normal, 1 in Hard). You could either end the spinner at 00:22:358 - or replace it with a long slider, up to you! Ended the spinner earlier
same for 01:41:901 (1,1) - ^
hmmh, overall the diff still looks pretty random. There are many similar rhythms that are mapped completely different which should be at least kinda consistent.
Also some rhythms don't match the melody at all, just as an example: 00:30:587 (3,4) - with strong beats on the sliderhead and the reverse and the red ticks and no strong sounds at all on the sliderend and the circle, so it would make much more sense to use a 3/2 slider and leave the rest blank. Fixed that part
Atm there also are very long parts with nothing but 1/1 sliders.. while that's kinda easy to play, it's not especially fun and doesn't work well with the melody.. take 02:12:072 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - as an example! There are many other ways in which you could map this part (and also many other parts) to make it more interesting and fit the melody better at the same time. Fixed I think
and some NC mistakes. 02:05:215 (1) - should be removed; 02:20:301 (5) - add NC here; 02:31:272 (2) - and add one here too, also at 02:36:758 (2) - Fixed
02:28:529 (1,2,1,2) - about these long sliders at the end.. try to make them intreact with each other. They look really out of place atm. (The ones in Insane look really nicely, maybe just use something similar?) Fixed I think
Also 02:36:758 (2) - shouldn't have a reverse, there's no strong sound there and also it's the same melody as the prev slider, so doesn't make sense to map it differently Fixed
Ye, I'm not going too much into detail here because it needs some more mods to improve rhythm and add more variety I'll try to get more mods for that diff

Insane
Looks really nice overall! I just wonder why you space so many 1/4s differently? I've seen 0.8 and 0.4, then 0.5 and 0.6 and 0.3 and 0.2..
I mean if it's just .1 difference it's not noticeable, but 0.8 to 0.4 is.. and imo would be better if you space all of them consistenly. Looks better structured and avoids confusion 100% >w< I made it consistent to 0.8 (more emphasize) and 0.5 only through the map now
01:39:158 (1) - to 01:41:387 (11) - looks like it's just a copy of prev pattern (01:33:672 (1) - to 01:35:901 (11) - )? Please rotate the second pattern some more or flip it completely so it's not exactly the same Flipped
02:14:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these are a little weird to play, imo.. it's just out of the blue.. I think might be good to use sliders instead so they're not as punishing as they're now. Also the only time a rhythm like this is used, hmmh.. I'm not too happy with it but I can't come up with a nice alternative except for the sliders.. maybe you can find something different? >: A mod told me to change it to doubles okay they're sliders again now
Hope I could help out!
//squee

Thanks a lot! Fixed everything

Last edited by Shyotamaze 2016-04-21T19:56:54+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

6th

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6th 2016-04-19T21:10:12+00:00

Hello ! Fixed all but 02:11:044 - NC here because it indicates new rhythm/pattern I think. Thanks !

Video

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Video 2016-04-20T21:16:35+00:00

Reditum wrote:
Normal:
01:19:958 - this is a really abnormally long break compared to the other diffs lol. Like at least do something here. I know there's not much, but you could copy the format of the hard and insane. - ill fix that

thanks!~

Squirrel wrote:
Weegle's Normal
Consider changing CS to 3.5, 4 is a little harsh considering density and the bpm of the song, imo.. also Hard uses 3.8 CS, so spread-wise it'd make more sense if circles were a little bigger in Normal than in Hard. Up to you ofcourse! - okay fine, enough people say that now ill change it
00:20:987 (1,1) - You need two beats recovery time in Normal, please end the spinner one white tick earlier! - deleted the spinner
00:24:415 (3,4,5,6,7) - It would be nice if (3) and (5) were different from (7), because the rhythm is different. I suggest using two 3/2 sliders instead of (3,4) and (5,6), the you follow the whole melody and don't split it up - ok
also this rhytm should be more consistent with 00:27:158 (3,4,5) - , it's very similar. Especially (5) doesn't make much sense here because it's skipping several strogn beats that were better emphasized before
00:29:558 (2) - reverse slider doesn't work well here, I think, because you ignore the strong beats on the red ticks, while the slider ends on nothing. Maybe try two 1/2 sliders instead? - changed it
Similar for 00:30:587 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/ookMZ.jpg to emphasize strong beats better ok
also similar 00:33:329 (5,6,7) - you could shorten (5) by 1/2 and delete (6) - rearranged
00:36:758 (3) - here new sound starts on the downbeat so circle instead of reverse would be nice - ok
00:53:901 (3,4,5) - (3,4) work pretty well, I'm not too sure about (5), tho. There's no such strong sounds as on the other two so just a circle matches better with the melody, imo - changed 5 into a longer slider
01:05:901 (6) - new sound on downbeat, try circle + 1/1 slider instead? (and move NC to downbeat) - ok
01:08:987 (4) - missing NC - whoops, nice catch
01:11:558 (9) - since both strong beats before this are clickable (01:10:872 (7,8) - ) I think this downbeat should be, too. consider replacing this with a circle on downbeat - ok
01:13:101 (3) - sounds weird that you ignore the beat on the white tick in the middle, any reason for that? - idk fixed
01:17:215 (1) - meeh. This really isn't well readable for players at this skill level. You could just use two 1/2 sliders instead.. I know, it's sad, because reverse sliders are cool. I use them a lot myself.. but in Normal.. would be okay if this were 1/1 rhythm, but 1/2.. players can't read the second reverse that fast - ok
01:56:301 (3) - consider splitting this up.. simplifying rhythms works nicely if it's done consequently, but since you didn't simplify the surrounding objects this feels too random, imo. - splittedded
02:12:072 - something went wrong with NCs here; - fixed
02:12:072 (6) - should have NC - ^^^
02:13:443 (1) - shouldn't have one - ^^^
02:14:815 (5) - here should be next NC - ^^^
02:16:187 (1) - and remove it here - ^^^ thanks
02:21:672 (3,4,5) - (3) and (5) are visible at the same time, so they shouldn't be stacked to avoid any confusion (imo) - fixed
02:24:415 (1,2) - intriducing stacks this late in the diff seems a little weird.. consider unstacking this for consistency (or add more stacks earlier?) - fixed
02:34:187 (1,2,3,4,5) - there should be some consistency between these patterns; it's the same rhythm. maybe http://puu.sh/ooq3m.jpg ? - good idea
Hope I could help out!
//squee

thanks squee!~

here;s the updated thing!

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Rieri

906 posts

Joined December 2014

Rieri 2016-05-05T14:53:15+00:00

IRC for Insane

23:24 ProEzreal: hey
23:25 Shyotamaze: hi

23:25 *ProEzreal is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/814137 Clonepa - Orpheus [Insane]]
23:26 ProEzreal: quick irc
23:27 Shyotamaze: ooh thanks wait :d
23:27 Shyotamaze: okay you can start
23:28 ProEzreal: 00:26:472 (2) - nc here first of all
23:28 ProEzreal: you can tell its a new start from here
23:29 Shyotamaze: oops
23:29 ProEzreal: 00:29:044 (9) - should be erased
23:29 ProEzreal: no sound there
23:30 ProEzreal: or it depends on what youre following
23:30 Shyotamaze: the drums or whatever instrument
23:30 Shyotamaze: is playing
23:30 Shyotamaze: in the background
23:30 ProEzreal: yeah but before that youre following the instrumentals
23:30 ProEzreal: but then youre suddenly mapping to the percussion
23:31 Shyotamaze: yea I switch sometimes ;_;
23:31 ProEzreal: I suggest you stick to one thing
23:32 ProEzreal: 00:33:158 (4,5,1,2,3,4,1) -
23:32 ProEzreal: here,
23:32 ProEzreal: you follow the percussion
23:32 ProEzreal: correct?
23:33 Shyotamaze: yes
23:33 ProEzreal: It actually sounds kinda weird to me, I was wondering if you could follow the instrumentals
23:34 ProEzreal: 00:34:015 (3,4,1) - get rid of these three, and make a long slider following the instrumentals on 00:33:844 -
23:35 ProEzreal: cause you did it here too 00:30:415 (7,8,1) -
23:35 Shyotamaze: alright I'll see what I can do ;_;
23:36 ProEzreal: hey
23:36 ProEzreal: its only suggestions
23:36 ProEzreal: you dont have to apply them if it doesnt suit you
23:36 ProEzreal: feel free to reject

23:36 Shyotamaze: yea but a lot of people are complaining about this
23:36 ProEzreal: ah
23:36 ProEzreal: oh yeah
23:36 ProEzreal: and about the nc.
23:37 ProEzreal: try to nc on a downbeat, cause it kinda gets awkward if there's like nc on beats that aren't
23:38 ProEzreal: 00:40:187 (1,4,1) -
23:39 ProEzreal: try to make these two closer
23:39 Shyotamaze: closer? it's in a stream

23:39 ProEzreal: 00:51:672 (3,4) - these two have a tick of break while 00:52:015 (4,1) - these two dont
23:40 ProEzreal: from what I see, the spacing between 00:51:672 (3,4,1) - isnt correct
23:41 ProEzreal: people might think that 00:52:272 (1) - starts on 00:52:358 -
23:42 Shyotamaze: oh yea
23:43 ProEzreal: 01:03:501 - starting from here, I recommend putting NC every 4 beats
23:44 ProEzreal: starting there, after 3 white ticks pass by you NC on the 4th tick
23:45 ProEzreal: 01:14:472 (1) - this is being covered up by 01:13:615 (1,2,3,4,5) - try putting it somewhere else
23:46 ProEzreal: 01:28:358 (1) - this ending on 01:31:101 - sounds better
23:47 ProEzreal: 01:42:415 (1) - this doesnt have to start on a blue tick, is there a specific reason to this?
23:47 ProEzreal: 01:50:129 (4) - NC here, instrumentals
23:48 ProEzreal: 01:54:929 (8) - NC here, percussions
23:49 ProEzreal: There's a big sound on 01:56:301 and its ignored, I think it should be clickable
23:49 ProEzreal: oops
23:49 ProEzreal: 01:56:301 -
23:49 Shyotamaze: haha
23:49 ProEzreal: 02:01:101 (2) - NC here, not 02:01:101 (2) -
23:50 Shyotamaze: ?
23:50 Shyotamaze: it's the same time thingy
23:50 ProEzreal: oops
23:51 ProEzreal: 02:00:758 (1) - not here
23:51 ProEzreal: 02:01:101 (2) - NC here
23:51 Shyotamaze: oh yes
23:51 ProEzreal: thats it
23:52 Shyotamaze: thanks! :d
23:52 ProEzreal: good luck

BeatofIke

Beatmap Nominator

4,245 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2016-05-08T20:06:28+00:00

[General]

Your normal-hitwhistle2.wav is unused. Please remove if you are not planning on using it on this mapset.

[Easy]

02:03:844 (5) - I'll probably add a new combo here.
02:25:787 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these notes.

[Weegle's Normal]

00:24:415 (2) - Change this to 1/1 slider. It follows the key sound better.
00:29:558 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm is weird to the music. I would try changing this rhythm to something like this:
00:32:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above. Also, take note on the near-inaudible finish hitsound at the end of 00:34:358 (8). You don't want the voulume to be too low to the point that is not audible during gameplay as inaudible hitsounds are not rankable.
00:34:444 - 00:34:701 - 00:34:744 - 00:35:901 - Remove these green timing sections. In addition, I would consider removing all unused green timing section on the break time sections like 01:19:958 - 01:31:272.
01:39:844 (2,6) - I'll probably stack 6 with the end of 2 (Move 6 at 250|116). In addtion, I would make a good square pattern at 01:40:529 (3,4,5,6).
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01:41:901 (1) - Optional, but maybe add a break time after this note.

[6th's Hard]

Now all of the sudden, AR8 ._.
00:44:815 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would probably simply this pattern a little bit (i.e. replace some stream with a kick slider)

[Insane]

02:36:929 (1) - Remove this note. It doesn't follow anything in the music.

Good luck~

Video

232 posts

Joined June 2014

Video 2016-05-09T00:56:55+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
[General]

[Weegle's Normal]
00:24:415 (2) - Change this to 1/1 slider. It follows the key sound better.
00:29:558 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm is weird to the music. I would try changing this rhythm to something like this:
- very good suggestion, sounds a lot better
00:32:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above. Also, take note on the near-inaudible finish hitsound at the end of 00:34:358 (8). You don't want the voulume to be too low to the point that is not audible during gameplay as inaudible hitsounds are not rankable. - after removing unnecessary green ticks, the hitsounds volume was resolved
00:34:444 - 00:34:701 - 00:34:744 - 00:35:901 - Remove these green timing sections. In addition, I would consider removing all unused green timing section on the break time sections like 01:19:958 - 01:31:272. - ^^^^^^
01:39:844 (2,6) - I'll probably stack 6 with the end of 2 (Move 6 at 250|116). In addition, I would make a good square pattern at 01:40:529 (3,4,5,6). - fixed the stack and square
01:41:901 (1) - Optional, but maybe add a break time after this note. - good idea

Good luck~

Thanks for the mod!

new thingy

osu file format v14

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Shyotamaze 2016-05-09T17:11:04+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
[General]
Your normal-hitwhistle2.wav is unused. Please remove if you are not planning on using it on this mapset. Removed
[Easy]
02:03:844 (5) - I'll probably add a new combo here. Fixed
02:25:787 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these notes. Fixed
[Insane]
02:36:929 (1) - Remove this note. It doesn't follow anything in the music. It follows the "trumpet" instrument, snapped it to 1/3 now so it should be better I guess

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