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Clonepa - Orpheus

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BeatofIke
4,166 posts
Joined September 2011
BeatofIke
[General]
  1. Your normal-hitwhistle2.wav is unused. Please remove if you are not planning on using it on this mapset.
[Easy]
  1. 02:03:844 (5) - I'll probably add a new combo here.
  2. 02:25:787 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these notes.
[Weegle's Normal]
  1. 00:24:415 (2) - Change this to 1/1 slider. It follows the key sound better.
  2. 00:29:558 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm is weird to the music. I would try changing this rhythm to something like this:
  3. 00:32:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above. Also, take note on the near-inaudible finish hitsound at the end of 00:34:358 (8). You don't want the voulume to be too low to the point that is not audible during gameplay as inaudible hitsounds are not rankable.
  4. 00:34:444 - 00:34:701 - 00:34:744 - 00:35:901 - Remove these green timing sections. In addition, I would consider removing all unused green timing section on the break time sections like 01:19:958 - 01:31:272.
  5. 01:39:844 (2,6) - I'll probably stack 6 with the end of 2 (Move 6 at 250|116). In addtion, I would make a good square pattern at 01:40:529 (3,4,5,6).
    Code
    299,202,100529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    384,152,100872,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    335,66,101215,1,0,0:0:0:0:
    250,116,101558,1,0,0:0:0:0:
  6. 01:41:901 (1) - Optional, but maybe add a break time after this note.
[6th's Hard]
  1. Now all of the sudden, AR8 ._.
  2. 00:44:815 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would probably simply this pattern a little bit (i.e. replace some stream with a kick slider)
[Insane]
  1. 02:36:929 (1) - Remove this note. It doesn't follow anything in the music.

Good luck~
Video
232 posts
Joined June 2014
Video

BeatofIke wrote:

[General]

[Weegle's Normal]
  1. 00:24:415 (2) - Change this to 1/1 slider. It follows the key sound better.
  2. 00:29:558 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This rhythm is weird to the music. I would try changing this rhythm to something like this:
    - very good suggestion, sounds a lot better
  3. 00:32:301 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same as above. Also, take note on the near-inaudible finish hitsound at the end of 00:34:358 (8). You don't want the voulume to be too low to the point that is not audible during gameplay as inaudible hitsounds are not rankable. - after removing unnecessary green ticks, the hitsounds volume was resolved
  4. 00:34:444 - 00:34:701 - 00:34:744 - 00:35:901 - Remove these green timing sections. In addition, I would consider removing all unused green timing section on the break time sections like 01:19:958 - 01:31:272. - ^^^^^^
  5. 01:39:844 (2,6) - I'll probably stack 6 with the end of 2 (Move 6 at 250|116). In addition, I would make a good square pattern at 01:40:529 (3,4,5,6). - fixed the stack and square
  6. 01:41:901 (1) - Optional, but maybe add a break time after this note. - good idea

Good luck~

Thanks for the mod! :oops:


new thingy
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Clonepa - Orpheus.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 23730
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 57844,63501,79958,91272,93672,148529,159598,164998
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.200006

[Metadata]
Title:Orpheus
TitleUnicode:Orpheus
Artist:Clonepa
ArtistUnicode:Clonepa
Creator:Shyotamaze
Version:Weegle's Normal
Source:
Tags:courroux breakcore orchestral symphonic hardcore nokore records 6th weegle classwork
BeatmapID:877572
BeatmapSetID:371634

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.4
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999904632569
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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2,91129,92472
2,102443,103444
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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woo!
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze

BeatofIke wrote:

[General]
  1. Your normal-hitwhistle2.wav is unused. Please remove if you are not planning on using it on this mapset. Removed
[Easy]
  1. 02:03:844 (5) - I'll probably add a new combo here. Fixed
  2. 02:25:787 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these notes. Fixed
[Insane]
  1. 02:36:929 (1) - Remove this note. It doesn't follow anything in the music. It follows the "trumpet" instrument, snapped it to 1/3 now so it should be better I guess :?

Good luck~
Thank you! :)
6th
616 posts
Joined December 2014
6th
00:44:815 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would probably simply this pattern a little bit (i.e. replace some stream with a kick slider)
Totally fine I think
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze
Let's wait 6 months again... :|
Okoratu
Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator
4,913 posts
Joined May 2012
Okoratu
from my advice queueeueue thing. tldr is in the bottom

http://nokore.bandcamp.com/album/nkcd00 ... a-courroux meta should be ok

i love songs like this, wil l find similar songs to this one if i search for orchestral breakcore?

[general]
hitsounding could reflect the brutal instruments better by being louder or more brutal in the break core sections

[insane]
the way breakcore maps usually work is that they consequently stick to either the drums or whatever is going on most prominently
lemme pull your map apart a bit based on this:
  1. 00:23:729 - to 00:29:215 - follow the main background instrument, more or less consequently because 00:28:787 - and a few others aren't filled out (there seems to be some 1/6 going on so better dont lol)
  2. and then with 00:29:215 - you change completely to the other layer in the music which you more or less didn't pay attention to before, the main melody (and then you can't explain 00:31:787 (10) - with it)
  3. 00:33:844 - you should be able to click this if you follow main melody, its similar to 00:31:101 -
  4. 00:34:529 (1) - i think a slider here is a bad idea because it doesn't end on much and there's no held sound, literally silence, so i think you should respect that by not putting an object there
  5. 00:37:272 (1) - its end has a prominent drum sound i think you should force a click on that
  6. 00:43:186 (6) - i think deleting this one can give more emhasis on the rest of the stream because it would highlight the most important notes more by not being a continuous stream kinda like 00:40:529 (5,6) -
  7. 00:43:787 (1) - wh combo
  8. 00:46:358 (4,5) - for this you should try if http://puu.sh/p72pr/0dd60378ce.jpg isn't more intuitive, it forces you to click on all the important sounds and doesn't leave an 3/4 clicking break between 00:46:787 - and 00:47:044 - which could probably throw ppl out of rhythm
  9. 00:54:758 (6) - i think this would be better off as circles due to the stronger drums that play during its hold time
  10. 00:57:929 - idk how fun this is but have you tried a circle
  11. 01:33:672 - this part is wonderfully clear about what it's following, nice.
  12. 01:50:129 - the melody increases noticably in intensity while your map doesn't, it just keeps doing the same which is a bit of a let down, i expected more streamspacing or anything to make it stand out a bit from the first half of the kiai
  13. 01:56:129 (3) - 01:58:872 (3) - idk what these are supposed to do both melody and drums aren't suggesting anything like this
  14. 02:34:015 - idk if this stuff snaps properly might end up needing red lines
so basically what i think is that this map has an ok foundation,
you don't really experiment much with spacing either, whcih is ok, i just think you should factor the relative intensity of each section into your mapping. What i mean is that this song has multiple less intense and multiple really intense sections, and if i were you i would attempt undermapping the less intense sections to make the more intense ones stand out more on their own, currently everything is like about evenly dense without many changes in pacing.
comboing being inconsequent between 01:19:958 (1,1,1,1) - 02:28:529 (1,2,3) - is intended btw ?
no idea yoru comboing is kinda not based on measures but more on your patterns which usually ends up being messy if your patterns are messy too.

I think you can polish this thing quite a bit before attempting to ask someone to bubble it, but i do think you are on a good way to get somewhere with your mapping
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze

Okorin wrote:

from my advice queueeueue thing. tldr is in the bottom

http://nokore.bandcamp.com/album/nkcd00 ... a-courroux meta should be ok

i love songs like this, wil l find similar songs to this one if i search for orchestral breakcore? uh I'm not sure, maybe if you search other tracks from Clonepa yes, I just found this tag here http://prntscr.com/b95b0f maybe I should add more of them or it's okay? (since the whole list is for the whole album and not only this track)

[general]
hitsounding could reflect the brutal instruments better by being louder or more brutal in the break core sections sure I'll see with Classwork

[insane]
the way breakcore maps usually work is that they consequently stick to either the drums or whatever is going on most prominently
lemme pull your map apart a bit based on this:
  1. 00:23:729 - to 00:29:215 - follow the main background instrument, more or less consequently because 00:28:787 - and a few others aren't filled out (there seems to be some 1/6 going on so better dont lol)
  2. and then with 00:29:215 - you change completely to the other layer in the music which you more or less didn't pay attention to before, the main melody (and then you can't explain 00:31:787 (10) - with it) Finally changed it
  3. 00:33:844 - you should be able to click this if you follow main melody, its similar to 00:31:101 - Fixed
  4. 00:34:529 (1) - i think a slider here is a bad idea because it doesn't end on much and there's no held sound, literally silence, so i think you should respect that by not putting an object there Fixed
  5. 00:37:272 (1) - its end has a prominent drum sound i think you should force a click on that Fixed
  6. 00:43:186 (6) - i think deleting this one can give more emhasis on the rest of the stream because it would highlight the most important notes more by not being a continuous stream kinda like 00:40:529 (5,6) - Changed a bit
  7. 00:43:787 (1) - wh combo Fixed
  8. 00:46:358 (4,5) - for this you should try if http://puu.sh/p72pr/0dd60378ce.jpg isn't more intuitive, it forces you to click on all the important sounds and doesn't leave an 3/4 clicking break between 00:46:787 - and 00:47:044 - which could probably throw ppl out of rhythm Changed your pattern a bit
  9. 00:54:758 (6) - i think this would be better off as circles due to the stronger drums that play during its hold time Fixed
  10. 00:57:929 - idk how fun this is but have you tried a circle The sound is barely hearable and it would be a bit confusing imo
  11. 01:33:672 - this part is wonderfully clear about what it's following, nice. lmao is this some kind of sarcasm? there is only one instrument hearable in this part so obviously it's going to be easier lol
  12. 01:50:129 - the melody increases noticably in intensity while your map doesn't, it just keeps doing the same which is a bit of a let down, i expected more streamspacing or anything to make it stand out a bit from the first half of the kiai I'll see what I can do
  13. 01:56:129 (3) - 01:58:872 (3) - idk what these are supposed to do both melody and drums aren't suggesting anything like this Fixed
  14. 02:34:015 - idk if this stuff snaps properly might end up needing red lines idk neither
so basically what i think is that this map has an ok foundation,
you don't really experiment much with spacing either, whcih is ok, i just think you should factor the relative intensity of each section into your mapping. What i mean is that this song has multiple less intense and multiple really intense sections, and if i were you i would attempt undermapping the less intense sections to make the more intense ones stand out more on their own, currently everything is like about evenly dense without many changes in pacing.
comboing being inconsequent between 01:19:958 (1,1,1,1) - 02:28:529 (1,2,3) - is intended btw ? oops fixed
no idea yoru comboing is kinda not based on measures but more on your patterns which usually ends up being messy if your patterns are messy too. I'll try to fix the NCs in the whole map

I think you can polish this thing quite a bit before attempting to ask someone to bubble it, but i do think you are on a good way to get somewhere with your mapping
Thanks a lot! I'll need a few days before finishing to fix things tho but it'll be a lot better I guess lol
Namki
1,281 posts
Joined November 2014
Namki
Hi.
[Easy]
  1. 00:37:444 (3) - finish here makes no sense, sound isn't that strong for the finish.
    Same here 00:58:015 (1) - .
  2. 00:41:558 (1) - / 00:49:787 (1) - / 00:47:044 (1) - / 00:55:272 (1) - put finish for those, otherwise it sounds inconsistent.
  3. 01:41:901 (5) - it would be better if you put finish here, because it's quite strong.
  4. 00:34:358 (5) - 1/1 slider with silent end looks better for me.
  5. 00:56:644 (3,4) - flow looks bad, make this
    !!!
  6. 01:10:015 (2,1) - bad idea to overlap them, move this slider left 01:11:729 (1) - .
  7. 00:32:987 (2,3) - spacing here is a bit big, make 0.9.
  8. 01:41:901 (1) - you can emphasize this by NCing it. Looks good imo.
  9. 01:58:015 (4,1,2,1) - this round flow looks bad here, make
    that way
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:844 (5) - move second anchor after head's anchor a bit down.
    !?!
  2. 00:47:044 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm doesn't fit previous 1/2 rhythm, make some 1/2 here too.
  3. 01:14:987 (2) - move a bit down, for making a straight line.
  4. 01:17:215 (1) - second reverse may be sudden => sliderbreaks, do two 1/2 sliders instead.
  5. 01:37:101 (2,3,4) - make better triangle, move slider down.
  6. 02:03:158 (6,1) - didn't do overlaps before, why decided to do it here, avoid for better aesthetic. Or make slider horizontal straight.
[Hard]
  1. 00:26:815 (2,3) - maybe more linear flow for this?
  2. 01:14:129 (4,1) - some blankets issues.
  3. 00:45:072 (3,4,5) - swap this pattern with this one 02:22:701 (3) - . Stream after the slider can be hard for newbies.
  4. 01:48:415 (4,1) - spacing looks weird, make the same as here 01:46:358 (3,4) - .
  5. Well, in my opinion it would be great if you make a half of triples stacked and other half spaced like you did, because of variety. :^)
Uncheck Widescreen Support in Insane.
Good luck.
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze

Namki wrote:

Hi.
[Easy]
  1. 00:37:444 (3) - finish here makes no sense, sound isn't that strong for the finish. I'll see with Classwork for hitsounds
    Same here 00:58:015 (1) - .
  2. 00:41:558 (1) - / 00:49:787 (1) - / 00:47:044 (1) - / 00:55:272 (1) - put finish for those, otherwise it sounds inconsistent. ^
  3. 01:41:901 (5) - it would be better if you put finish here, because it's quite strong. ^
  4. 00:34:358 (5) - 1/1 slider with silent end looks better for me. Hmm idk it would be a bit weird, I won't change it for now
  5. 00:56:644 (3,4) - flow looks bad, make this Did something else
    !!!
  6. 01:10:015 (2,1) - bad idea to overlap them, move this slider left 01:11:729 (1) - . Fixed
  7. 00:32:987 (2,3) - spacing here is a bit big, make 0.9. Oops fixed
  8. 01:41:901 (1) - you can emphasize this by NCing it. Looks good imo. Fixed
  9. 01:58:015 (4,1,2,1) - this round flow looks bad here, make Hmm idk it seems fine, maybe if I get more complains
    that way
Uncheck Widescreen Support in Insane. Fixed
Good luck.
Thank you! :D
6th
616 posts
Joined December 2014
6th
Hard
00:26:815 (2,3) - maybe more linear flow for this? Made on purpose because it sounds like 1st slider
01:14:129 (4,1) - some blankets issues.
00:45:072 (3,4,5) - swap this pattern with this one 02:22:701 (3) - . Stream after the slider can be hard for newbies. 1st pattern you pointed out is like 3 times louder ):
01:48:415 (4,1) - spacing looks weird, make the same as here 01:46:358 (3,4) - . It's the same spacing in both cases
Well, in my opinion it would be great if you make a half of triples stacked and other half spaced like you did, because of variety. :^)
Thank you!
Video
232 posts
Joined June 2014
Video

Namki wrote:

Hi.

[Normal]
  1. 00:27:844 (5) - move second anchor after head's anchor a bit down. - fixed
  2. 00:47:044 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm doesn't fit previous 1/2 rhythm, make some 1/2 here too. - I think it's fine
  3. 01:14:987 (2) - move a bit down, for making a straight line. - nice catch
  4. 01:17:215 (1) - second reverse may be sudden => sliderbreaks, do two 1/2 sliders instead. - good idea
  5. 01:37:101 (2,3,4) - make better triangle, move slider down. - okay
  6. 02:03:158 (6,1) - didn't do overlaps before, why decided to do it here, avoid for better aesthetic. Or make slider horizontal straight. - true, rearranged some notes and it looks better
Good luck.
Thank you for the mod! Very helpful to the tiniest detail

new stuffs
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Just pm me if anything is overlapping or i made a mistake (but AiMod didn't catch anything so it should be fine :oops: )
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze
Don't mind me I'm just resetting the timer orz
Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
~ General ~
  1. The ending part feels pretty offtime. You'll want a check on this.
~ Easy ~
  1. 00:20:987 (1) - The ending point of this spinner is rather vague. I think just removing this as normal and hard would work better.
  2. 01:37:787 (3) - Ending at 01:38:301 will fit the music properly.
  3. 01:55:272 - This is missing a hitsound.
  4. 01:59:729 (1) - I don't think this NC is needed. The current cycle was pretty short.
  5. 02:28:529 (1) - Imo, starting the slider from 02:28:187 seems to fit the music better.
  6. 00:36:072 ~ 00:58:015 - My personal comment that the rhythms at this kind of part of this diff didn't felt interesting enough. The music provides lots of thing here, but it seems you kinda just spammed 1/1 for the sake of Easy. 1/1 is true, but that doesn't mean that you can make an interesting easy taking advantage of various rhythms that the song provide.
~ Weegle's Normal ~
  1. For non-kiai sections, there were parts that you kinda failed to control consecutive usage of 1/2. I think you could refrain from such overuse of 1/2, considering how the Easy was designed.
  2. 01:49:444 - Missing whistle.
  3. 01:54:929 (4,5) - Missing hitsound.
~ 6th's Hard ~
  1. 01:25:444 (1) - The shape of the loop can definitely improve. Try more please.
  2. 01:28:187 - What is this drum-finish?
  3. 01:39:158 - Volume this section feels way too low. Consider increasing it.
  4. 01:48:929 (2) - This 1/1 rhythm ignores way too much elements of the song. You'll want to restructure this rhythm.
  5. 01:54:929 (2,3) - Missing hitsound.
~ Insane ~
  1. 00:42:758 (9,1) - Starting the combo from (9) will be better in readability.
  2. 00:48:587 (1,2,3) - It didn't looked well to have an inconsistent spacing.
  3. 00:51:158 (1,2) - Starting the combo from (2) will look better in patterns.
  4. 00:53:044 (7,1) - Starting the combo from (7) will look better in patterns.
  5. 01:08:129 - There isn't a clear beat here in the song. Rather a 3/4 slider will fit the song better.
  6. 01:30:929 - Ending the beat at 01:30:929 will fit the song better.
  7. 01:41:901 (1,2) - This rhythm rather suits a consecutive 1/4 better, than a 1/8 reverse slider if you listen to the music.
  8. 01:54:929 (8,9,10) - Missing hitsound.
  9. 02:00:758 (7,1,2) - The spacing of these are nearly similar, while the rhythm is different. I think this could get improved. It currently looks weak if an anti-jump was intended.
  10. 02:14:472 - Unlike 02:14:215, there is an actual beat at this spot, and this difference made the usage of 02:14:044 (6,7,8) awkward. Fix the pattern accordingly please.
Not bad, but further improvement could be possible.
Shyotamaze
916 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Shyotamaze

Sonnyc wrote:

~ General ~
  1. The ending part feels pretty offtime. You'll want a check on this.
~ Easy ~
  1. 00:20:987 (1) - The ending point of this spinner is rather vague. I think just removing this as normal and hard would work better. Fixed
  2. 01:37:787 (3) - Ending at 01:38:301 will fit the music properly. Fixed
  3. 01:55:272 - This is missing a hitsound. I'll see with Classwork
  4. 01:59:729 (1) - I don't think this NC is needed. The current cycle was pretty short. Fixed
  5. 02:28:529 (1) - Imo, starting the slider from 02:28:187 seems to fit the music better. Not really, the slider is for the trumpet or whatever weird instrument and it's like that in almost every diff
  6. 00:36:072 ~ 00:58:015 - My personal comment that the rhythms at this kind of part of this diff didn't felt interesting enough. The music provides lots of thing here, but it seems you kinda just spammed 1/1 for the sake of Easy. 1/1 is true, but that doesn't mean that you can make an interesting easy taking advantage of various rhythms that the song provide. I'll see what I can do about this, it's true that the music provides a lot but since it's an easy diff I can't map everything so it would be a bit weird
~ Insane ~
  1. 00:42:758 (9,1) - Starting the combo from (9) will be better in readability. Fixed
  2. 00:48:587 (1,2,3) - It didn't looked well to have an inconsistent spacing. Fixed
  3. 00:51:158 (1,2) - Starting the combo from (2) will look better in patterns. Fixed
  4. 00:53:044 (7,1) - Starting the combo from (7) will look better in patterns. Fixed
  5. 01:08:129 - There isn't a clear beat here in the song. Rather a 3/4 slider will fit the song better. Fixed
  6. 01:30:929 - Ending the beat at 01:30:929 will fit the song better. Fixed
  7. 01:41:901 (1,2) - This rhythm rather suits a consecutive 1/4 better, than a 1/8 reverse slider if you listen to the music. Fixed
  8. 01:54:929 (8,9,10) - Missing hitsound. I'll see with Classwork
  9. 02:00:758 (7,1,2) - The spacing of these are nearly similar, while the rhythm is different. I think this could get improved. It currently looks weak if an anti-jump was intended. Fixed
  10. 02:14:472 - Unlike 02:14:215, there is an actual beat at this spot, and this difference made the usage of 02:14:044 (6,7,8) awkward. Fix the pattern accordingly please. Fixed I think?
Not bad, but further improvement could be possible.
Thanks! :)
Video
232 posts
Joined June 2014
Video

Sonnyc wrote:

~ General ~

~ Weegle's Normal ~
  1. For non-kiai sections, there were parts that you kinda failed to control consecutive usage of 1/2. I think you could refrain from such overuse of 1/2, considering how the Easy was designed. - Worked on fixing those sections and tidied up other sections that were kind of rough to play for Normal
  2. 01:49:444 - Missing whistle. - whoops
  3. 01:54:929 (4,5) - Missing hitsound. - fixed
Not bad, but further improvement could be possible.
Thanks for the mod

updated stoof
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6th
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6th
Fixed all, thank you
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
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neonat
Looking at Easy, 00:23:729 - 01:19:958 - is the claps and whistles really following to something specific? Because they really do just seem to come out randomly. Clap every 3rd beat but then missing out on some or appearing on 4th beat or something else, or then whistles in one whole area but not in another. The section of the song here is quite similar throughout, but the sounds sometimes seem to correspond to a hitsound, but then not in another area, which then just leaves it out for question.

Easy

01:44:644 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - why is the clap used for all the ends on the latter half of the kiai but the starting have some left out? The music here sounds more consistent than what the hitsounds are portraying
01:58:015 (4,4) - could highlight these 2 beats with whistles
02:03:844 (1) - could use whistle on slider start as well

02:06:587 - 02:28:529 - same thing as the start, parts that sound the same do not have same hitsound pattern, like eg. 02:17:558 (1,2) vs 02:23:044 (1,2) - no whistle on 4th beat for the former one. Also this beat and slider end of 02:14:815 (1,3) - would seem more befitting of claps, compared to some others used

Insane

You can highlight the lower beats that don't already have finish on them in the song with whistles, liike 00:39:157 (3) - 00:42:072 (5) - 00:44:987 (6,7,8,9) - 00:46:187 (5)
02:00:244 (4) - split this up to circles instead of a slider? 02:00:244 and 02:00:415 sound equal in intensity and currently it feels weird to play it as a slider
02:03:844 (1) - why no hitsound on slider start?
02:20:815 (4) - can you shift slider end slightly up or down, just making it less of a horizontal movement from 02:20:472 (2,3)
02:27:672 (3,4) - change the rhythm to something more similar to the previous 2 objects 02:27:329 (2) - the beat at 02:27:844 is the strongest point there but it's on the slider end, which makes the emphasis less for it, a pattern like this could help emphasize it more:
SPOILER

Good Luck
Shyotamaze
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Topic Starter
Shyotamaze

neonat wrote:

Looking at Easy, 00:23:729 - 01:19:958 - is the claps and whistles really following to something specific? Because they really do just seem to come out randomly. Clap every 3rd beat but then missing out on some or appearing on 4th beat or something else, or then whistles in one whole area but not in another. The section of the song here is quite similar throughout, but the sounds sometimes seem to correspond to a hitsound, but then not in another area, which then just leaves it out for question.

Easy

01:44:644 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - why is the clap used for all the ends on the latter half of the kiai but the starting have some left out? The music here sounds more consistent than what the hitsounds are portraying
01:58:015 (4,4) - could highlight these 2 beats with whistles
02:03:844 (1) - could use whistle on slider start as well

02:06:587 - 02:28:529 - same thing as the start, parts that sound the same do not have same hitsound pattern, like eg. 02:17:558 (1,2) vs 02:23:044 (1,2) - no whistle on 4th beat for the former one. Also this beat and slider end of 02:14:815 (1,3) - would seem more befitting of claps, compared to some others used I'll see with Classwork about all of this

Insane

You can highlight the lower beats that don't already have finish on them in the song with whistles, liike 00:39:157 (3) - 00:42:072 (5) - 00:44:987 (6,7,8,9) - 00:46:187 (5) I'll see with Classwork
02:00:244 (4) - split this up to circles instead of a slider? 02:00:244 and 02:00:415 sound equal in intensity and currently it feels weird to play it as a slider Fixed
02:03:844 (1) - why no hitsound on slider start? Same as before
02:20:815 (4) - can you shift slider end slightly up or down, just making it less of a horizontal movement from 02:20:472 (2,3) Fixed I think?
02:27:672 (3,4) - change the rhythm to something more similar to the previous 2 objects 02:27:329 (2) - the beat at 02:27:844 is the strongest point there but it's on the slider end, which makes the emphasis less for it, a pattern like this could help emphasize it more: Fixed
SPOILER

Good Luck
Thanks for the recheck! I didn't expect you to do that lol, I'll still give you a kd because the beatmap changed a lot since the last time you modded it :)
Izzz
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Izzz
Ok but what if you revived and ranked this thx <3
Shyotamaze
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Shyotamaze

Joezapy wrote:

Ok but what if you revived and ranked this thx <3
I'll probably revive this set once I remap my diffs/get better at mapping in general so it might take a while :^)
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