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Topic Starter
deadbeat

FireFoxZX wrote:

Wishy wrote:

If player moderation is not an option then allow users to create private channels with no moderation. XD
that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature

deadbeat wrote:

if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderators
please listen to what is being said
FireFoxZX

firefoxzx wrote:

that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature

deadbeat wrote:

if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderators
please listen to what is being said
think about how many chat mods how many of them spek english if this was a feature there would be around 500 every day there is no possible way that this could be moderated with any type of effeciency without having an entirely different mod group
FireFoxZX

silmarilen wrote:

1: make them invite only
2: if someone start acting like a retard just make a new channel

altho i do think the creator should at least be able to kick people from that specific channel
well if it was that easy you think it would have already been added, it needs a seperate mod group its not some tiny little chat room its many people in many groups at the same time it would be horribly hard to moderate without multiple people/more chat mods until then well it sorta can't be done without legal difficulty
Topic Starter
deadbeat
it's not really important anyway, peppy already said player moderation won't happen
FireFoxZX

Marcin wrote:

If private channels happen, then this should be possible. Then you don't even need moderators in there.

Peppy wrote:

"Player moderation will never, ever be an option."


its not player moderation its a new type of chat mod group specifically for this feature a lower tier of chat mod but a higher tier of player a kind of staff (its very simple)
Topic Starter
deadbeat
these chats are the same as normal 1v1 private messages, just with more people. if there are issues within a private chat, !report is your best option
FireFoxZX

deadbeat wrote:

these chats are the same as normal 1v1 private messages, just with more people. if there are issues within a private chat, !report is your best option
that wouldn't work what about the people who might deal illegally through pm's

PM's are not recorded on chat logs and thus there would also be a need to record the chat logs

and !report is not always reliable (it doesn't work for me)
Seijiro
I fully support the idea; it would be really useful to make a small group to chat with :)
Foneza
This is the problem for chatting in Osu!. The Chat moderator will have no idea of what is happening inside a private chat. So If we do something "Bad"
which most of the time I have no clue of what I did, we can get away with it. BUT, these things should keep it between one another. When on public chatroom, it means another thing. You get what I mean?
neuro
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FireFoxZX

minase_yukari wrote:

I support the idea and hope it will become a new feature. I always wanted to talk to my friends in a private chat on osu! :3
thanks for joining the club :D
FireFoxZX

ACEsushi wrote:

This is the problem for chatting in Osu!. The Chat moderator will have no idea of what is happening inside a private chat. So If we do something "Bad"
which most of the time I have no clue of what I did, we can get away with it. BUT, these things should keep it between one another. When on public chatroom, it means another thing. You get what I mean?
thats the point of a new mod-group its like a mike of a public chatroom and a private one

if at all we should limit these rooms to a certain number in order to not have 500000 inmoderatable rooms have 15 easily moderatable rooms and have it be a donator feature
Topic Starter
deadbeat
for the last time FireFoxZX:
there will be no new moderation group. the GMT/Chat ops will handle any issues with !reports

also having a limit on the amount of group chats is silly as well. what if i want to have a private chat with me and the rest of the support team. i'd have to join another group chat that has tons of other people in it. i might as well be talking in #osu >_>
Raging Bull
Sounds like he just wants green name.

And without getting my post deleted.

Seems like a good idea since I like to speak with more than one sometimes but I have to keep two chat windows open orz.
Stregan
I support this idea some of my friends even goes to facebook just to groupchat.
Yukiteru Amano
Hope it will be available soon... :D
pola[r]is
It would be nice. Especially if you're talking in #osu and then 3-4 odd people are talking about the same beatmap.
You can just invite them all to one chat, and maybe play a multiplayer match together :D.
FireFoxZX

Raging Bull wrote:

Sounds like he just wants green name.

And without getting my post deleted.

Seems like a good idea since I like to speak with more than one sometimes but I have to keep two chat windows open orz.
if i wanted a green name you think i would be speaking in green not blue

yes i aspire to be a moderator but i am not "trying" im helping out and expressing my opinion if they want to mod me so be it

and multiple chat windows are a bother i dont see why we have to put up with that, its one of the things that annoys me
FireFoxZX

deadbeat wrote:

for the last time FireFoxZX:
there will be no new moderation group. the GMT/Chat ops will handle any issues with !reports

also having a limit on the amount of group chats is silly as well. what if i want to have a private chat with me and the rest of the support team. i'd have to join another group chat that has tons of other people in it. i might as well be talking in #osu >_>
another option is just make a #multiplayer for people not in multiplayer that would be fine, also i get the "NO NEW MODERATION GROUPS" but if this feature did get released the chat mods would be heavily understaffed unless you had a limit on the number of chat groups. if you had 5000 chat groups think of how many each SINGLE chat mod would have to check, its just not humanly possible i do not oppose the "NO NEW MODERATION GROUPS" my idea in fact it was just a stupid idea that might have solved the problem (it didn't) also the !report system only works if people want to report something so that would be out of the question (if you want to ask why please reread the forum)
Oinari-sama
Double posting everywhere =.=

Use the Edit button next time
Topic Starter
deadbeat
p/2556767 FireFoxZX, please re-read what peppy said. i really don't think you understand. also there is now way i'd even want my private chats moderated anyway. it's private chat for a reason. now please stop with this moderation nonsense
FireFoxZX

deadbeat wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2556767 FireFoxZX, please re-read what peppy said. i really don't think you understand. also there is now way i'd even want my private chats moderated anyway. it's private chat for a reason. now please stop with this moderation nonsense
i already read that please reread my posts i think you do not understand them yes private chats should not be moderated but also this would cuase many problems thus i recomended the room limit we cant just have 5000 unmoderated rooms that would be insane (AS FOR THE MODERATION I ALREADY DROPPED THAT)

Oinari-sama wrote:

Double posting everywhere =.=

Use the Edit button next time
EDIT: thank oinari for the reminder
Sentient_DELETED
Support this! Would be awesome :)
Yukiteru Amano
Bump!
Primula_old
Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?

I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.

I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
FabulousCupcake

Primula wrote:

Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?

I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.

I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
No, I think it's not ( should be ) "custom irc channels".
If custom irc channels are used, someone who knew the channel can always join without invite, and someone could randomly enter it :?
Primula_old

s4nji wrote:

Primula wrote:

Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?

I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.

I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
No, I think it's not ( should be ) "custom irc channels".
If custom irc channels are used, someone who knew the channel can always join without invite, and someone could randomly enter it :?
IRC channels can have passwords set.. it'd be similar to how the #multiplayer channel works (you can choose whether to have your multiplayer match require a password, and you can invite others to it.. only people in the multiplayer match can use the #multiplayer chat).

Also, you're able to kick people from a multiplayer match, isn't that a form of moderation? So why would we not be allowed to kick people from our own private channels?
Yukiteru Amano
Bump. As already said. Make it like a multi lobby. You need to press "Create Chat lobby" (for instance), and then you can select for it too be Public or private. Private would req an invite from the owner of the lobby only, too increase moderation of the lobby. Public anyone can find it in some kind of chat list.

Support :D
10crystalmask01
But then it won't really be a 'private' chat anymore :? Wouldn't it be more like a group chat, lol?
Topic Starter
deadbeat
no, it's still a private chat. private chats aren't limited to 1 on 1 conversations :p
Shigoto
Good Idea, voted for it. (even if i don't play anymore) \:D/
WhiteRose
Awesome Idea .3.

Voted ofc
Kitokofox
I can already see how big of a pain this could be to implement. But seeing all the suggestions thrown around says otherwise. I think BanchoBot should give op power to the original creator of the private chat.
Topic Starter
deadbeat

Kitokofox wrote:

I think BanchoBot should give op power to the original creator of the private chat.
what. no. that's silly. most they'd EVER need is a kick function. and even, i still don't see a huge need
xasuma
Ive mentioned this before. I like it how it works in starcraft 2. Where you create a channel called 'whatever' . anyone who joins "whatever" will join you. You can create any channel you want , name it whatever you want, as many as you want, and with a password/or no password.

To be honest idk the behind the scenes of how it works there or how hard is it to implement. But the HOW it works i think its awesome.

Support+
Granger
Bump+Support
D e s
is this happening ? :D
Lach
Don't hold your breath.
Maruyu
someone explain to me why this can't be done before I deposit all my hope stars into this
Zaruhohl
I thought this could come with t/29780 as Clan chat rooms. But this sounds like a better idea.
Yukiteru Amano
I am still waiting for this... Most people use Skype because osu lacks this feature!
Maruyu
peppy bby pls
silmarilen
HaBEER
I was thinking about same idea for about a year. It could be really awesome. + Ofc.
Shadowriver
I surprised that this game use IRC as a chat backbone yet it fails to use main IRC feature, which is creation of your own chanells, i don't see reason why is that. Non standard used #spectator and #multiplayer can be blocked from manual creation, unofficial channels don't need to be listed there for official once are still have there spotlight and and be modded properly, there still some range of permission levels that can be created no to mention they don't need to exposed (like sysop is usually not). IRC supports password channels (k mode), also invite based private channels (i mode). Team chats kind of solve some of problem, but still i got feeling that IRC is not really utilized properly in osu.
valar
I'm not sure that letting everyone create private channels ingame is a good idea.The road to hell is paved with good intentions;

silmarilen wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjH4DASNZU&feature=player_detailpage#t=1870
hype
It's going to be perfect. :)
[ Kubolo ]
Awesome idea :v
nrl

valar wrote:

I'm not sure that letting everyone create private channels ingame is a good idea.The road to hell is paved with good intentions;
What's the harm?
Winda
good idea <3
Lancelot
it would be great
we wont have to play multi player finaly !!
peppy

Shadowriver wrote:

I surprised that this game use IRC as a chat backbone yet it fails to use main IRC feature, which is creation of your own chanells, i don't see reason why is that. Non standard used #spectator and #multiplayer can be blocked from manual creation, unofficial channels don't need to be listed there for official once are still have there spotlight and and be modded properly, there still some range of permission levels that can be created no to mention they don't need to exposed (like sysop is usually not). IRC supports password channels (k mode), also invite based private channels (i mode). Team chats kind of solve some of problem, but still i got feeling that IRC is not really utilized properly in osu.
You are wrong here. The "backbone" is *not* IRC; it's completely custome. Which is why it differs from IRC in many ways. Not saying that technically adding these features is hard, so there's obviously other reasons they don't exist, right?

Posting in this thread won't help too much. I understand the demand is there but I have a specific implementation I am aiming for and it will take a bit longer to realise.
Xheriux
I want it, i want it NOW!
Yukiteru Amano
Bump!!
Michel
peppy please
[ Scarlet Red ]
I'd love this idea! Good work :)
Makoa
I think with the addition of the "clans" in 2015 (t/29780) It's likely that peppy will introduce a chat channel specific to the people in your group.
Nyxa
That'd be neat
Topic Starter
deadbeat

Makoa wrote:

I think with the addition of the "clans" in 2015 (t/29780) It's likely that peppy will introduce a chat channel specific to the people in your group.
this is the current plan. peppy already mentioned this earlier in the thread :3
Verniy_Chan
Why not..!
xasuma
Take my useless stars
Rain Soul
Best idea for the chat system.
theltp535
I love this idea, hope this can be added :)
Kibbleru
i totally support this, i still want to chat with a group of people while editing my map..
Ayachi-

Kibbleru wrote:

i totally support this, i still want to chat with a group of people while editing my map..
If I do that I will probably end up with 2 new seconds of the map after 2 hours lololol

but I like this idea
E14
me i support this, i hope it would be like a skype group chat feature :D
xxdeathx

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

i totally support this, i still want to chat with a group of people while editing my map..
If I do that I will probably end up with 2 new seconds of the map after 2 hours lololol
Kaguya Hourain
Request: 5 years ago.
Votes: 2038.

Please.
Reign
A limit of members in the chat at one time would be great.

Either way, I support.
Seijiro

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Request: 5 years ago.
Votes: 2038.

Please.
Probably it won't take too long anymore :3
mummie

[-MrSergio-] wrote:

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Request: 5 years ago.
Votes: 2038.

Please.
Probably it won't take too long anymore :3
i hope not :3
-Hanashi-
5 years already?
I mean people have been voting and bumping this for a hecka long time, yet no action.
Support.
Saranghae_old_1
I firmly do believe that if this feature was implemented into the game that there'd be more and more socialization among the players.
In all honesty, it's pretty hard to get to know someone or a group of people whom you've taken interest in while having to worry about other people rudely changing the topics on you, and like you may have no idea what the firetruck may be going on and you're just sitting there derping all of over the place-- it's not a lovely experience.
PatZar
also, make it as like skype/Facebook group have to leave or stay on the group too.
i would be nice imo
takumi9613
いまは、multiなどを立てることでマルチチャットをすることができますが、マルチチャットではチャットしながら個々のマップplayなどできず、みんなで同じ曲をやるぐらいですが、グループチャットを立てれば、いろんなことをしながらチャットすることができます。しかも、気の合う仲間を集めれば話題も膨らみますし、ロビーやosuchatとは違い、チャットにいちいち気遣ったりとかもないので、話題も膨らみます。
ですので、それそれで話題が膨らみ、音ゲーとともに、日々のコミュニティもenjoyできるものかと思います。
ぜひとも実装してください。よろしくお願い致しますm(__)m

このようにすることで、Facebookやツイッターなどはアドレス確認などがありますが、osuでグループを組むことにより、気が合う人がいたらすぐグループ組めるし、めんどくさい手続きも必要としません。
スカイプでは個人で交換とかしなければなりません、それも、長く付き合うならまだしも、一瞬だけだったらそれでおしまい。無駄に手間がかかります。ですので、気になるから一瞬だけグループく見たいって時にグループチャット機能があると、すぐにグループチャットを開始でき、いろんな話題で弾むこと間違いなしです。
そのグループのテンプレを保存出来れば、次回以降話するならそれで話するのもよし、Facebook、Twitter、Skypeとも連携デキレばさらによいでしょう。osuにインしていなくても、いつでもグループチャットすることができ、osuで撮ったスクリーンショットもすぐに共有できるためとてもリーズナブルで便利かと思います。
いろんな人と話してみたいが、TwitterとかFacebookとかSkypeとか交換すると考えると少し手が引けるものですが、グループチャットがあることで、すぐ友達も増え、より幅が広がると思います。こうすることで、音ゲー友達もぐんと増えることは間違いないと思います。
Diblox
Very good idea.
Fenneca
How has something like this not become a thing at this point. If I could suggest something, this would need a set limit of people in one private chat. I think 6-8 people would be manageable.
SinDemonDragon13
This is EXACTLY what I want as a new feature~!
ZekeyHache
I want this feature NOW!
andeh
5 years :o and still no action?
Groupchat feature is the exactly what we want.
Kuuhaku722
yeah
we can make like a grup pm. nice idea (y) :D
Neutral
God yes this needs to be a thing :3
ego_17
good for collab's and mapping stuff
we can use multiplayer rooms, but you cant open redactor in it//
xxxafiqxxx
I almost want to post the same request xD
-Cyan
awesome idea! (5 years? lol)
Mira-san
Bump.

It was not until now for me that this would become really handy lmao.
Score_Under
I wouldn't mind seeing this feature, but let me play devil's advocate. Here is how I see it.

Advantages of group chat being built into Osu!:
  1. It's convenient while playing if you only have one monitor
  2. You can click people's name to go to their profile
  3. You have /np
  4. It's easier to talk to people you met on Osu in the first place
  5. Don't need to run another program too
Advantages of other chat solutions (varies by chat client but I'm sure you can find one with a combination that works best for you):
  1. No chat censoring*, no after-the-fact message redaction, and you get to set the rules. Depending on the chat system you use, you could even appoint your own moderators.
  2. If you close Osu or it crashes, your chat is still there. You can still use it without having to restart Osu. You can say "Sorry brb, restarting osu" ;)
  3. You can send files (e.g. a zip of some beatmaps you're about to play through)
  4. You can keep your group even after everyone leaves**
  5. It won't lag your game if someone uses a character from a font Osu hasn't loaded yet
  6. You can write bold, underlined or coloured text
  7. It will integrate better with your IME if you use one
  8. You can choose a better font (a big one for me, because Osu's font rendering doesn't do fallbacks correctly under wine. Probably less important for everyone else.)
  9. You can write scripts/bots/macros
  10. You can change your nickname at will
  11. You can call each other up (voice chat)
  12. TLS or other encryption can be used
  13. Less load on peppy's servers :^)
* If you don't think that's a problem, check these out: it edits a URL and obscures the name of a tech convention; it obscures a song name and turns someone's sentence into nonsense; it overwrites someone's username. There are many more examples of this. "It could happen to you!" :o
** IRC, which Osu's chat seems to run on top of, has the rule that once everyone logs off a channel it disappears (with some exceptions -- chanserv). Trying to prevent this while not having tens of thousands of dead channels would be one hurdle that Osu devs face if they implement this.

I think the first 2 reasons alone are a pretty big reason to use an external chat client. If you have 2 screens I recommend you have some IRC or mumble chat going on one of them with Osu on the other. I do this while still using Osu chat in-game and it works well for me.
_xavo
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-Maus-

xXavocadoXx wrote:

For the whole topic, overall good idea. Maybe ask Microsoft how Skype group chats work ;)

-xAvo
That's weird and barely likely to be noticed ;v
Asmira
Definitely would livin up things. :)
-Reimu-_old_1
cool idea :)
Nelly
Actually this is a great idea even more better if you can make a Group Chat ;)
Mafuuu
sounds great, would love to have this.
Azucchi
Idea of the century 10/10

osu! would be better with this imo
Hans5958
I'm agree anyway! :D
[ Eon Fox ]
This really should be a thing.
Jing Yuan
man i would actually love having this

chatting with friend groups would be so much easier
Gochuumon
Hope this will come soon into reality :3
Pringle
This is golden. Bump!
Accurian
They won't consider this because they'll implement group chats into the game when osu!next is released, however it will be for Supporters only.
ZekeyHache
argh! I'm still waiting for this! :(
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