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no need to bump topics that were posted in recently. plus this in on the first page sorting by sp, so i'm sure the mods will see this without useless bumpsDADDYCOOLVIPPER wrote:
Bump, come on peppy
I only added the word bump, it's the reply count that matters I tell yadeadbeat wrote:
no need to bump topics that were posted in recently. plus this in on the first page sorting by sp, so i'm sure the mods will see this without useless bumpsDADDYCOOLVIPPER wrote:
Bump, come on peppy
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s.p>post count
for the win, yes.
at least a good update on osu!
at least a good update on osu!
Support~ 3 stars~
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thanks for the continued support people \:D/
This is better than random people using #skandi as multi private chat~
I'll kick their asses :>
The #spec channel can be annoying sometimes, I get kicked into another channel when someone's spectating me and quit or visa versa
I'd prefer this over #spec
Support indeed ♪
I'll kick their asses :>
The #spec channel can be annoying sometimes, I get kicked into another channel when someone's spectating me and quit or visa versa
I'd prefer this over #spec
Support indeed ♪
Why didn't I see this before? Support!
support this
better than a random channel full of spam
better than a random channel full of spam
Uncle Buly
What's the difference between this and a third-party program such as Skype?
what is the difference between ingame chat and a normal IRC?Kanye West wrote:
What's the difference between this and a third-party program such as Skype?
Nothing, which is why in game chat isn't a necessity, just a nice thing to have.silmarilen wrote:
what is the difference between ingame chat and a normal IRC?Kanye West wrote:
What's the difference between this and a third-party program such as Skype?
it is necessary because when i play osu i just want to be in that chat and not irc and wtf other people hang out with. also multiplayer rooms (which was a solution earlier) is not really good since your not going to multiplayer to chat or things anyways
it is just a community thing seriously what is so hard to understand with that? you make your chatroom and invite people to it just like any other language specific room that comes up when starting osu
it is just a community thing seriously what is so hard to understand with that? you make your chatroom and invite people to it just like any other language specific room that comes up when starting osu
The conditions should be the same as multiplayer invite (friends-only or anyone)
Saten and I had an interesting conversation about this.
There must be an limit of some sort. Or else this would start to require moderating if things happen. I think one of the reason why people don't like to use the multiplayer chat is because there's only 8 slots. but can't someone just leave in case they're not having the conversation anymore? Not even #osu has conversations with over 8 people at the same time.
but don't get me wrong. This would be amazing for me with my closest friends since we're all connected in a way and we'd all love to discuss with each other in private, together sometimes.
There must be an limit of some sort. Or else this would start to require moderating if things happen. I think one of the reason why people don't like to use the multiplayer chat is because there's only 8 slots. but can't someone just leave in case they're not having the conversation anymore? Not even #osu has conversations with over 8 people at the same time.
but don't get me wrong. This would be amazing for me with my closest friends since we're all connected in a way and we'd all love to discuss with each other in private, together sometimes.
I think its a great idea. In my country there are not enough people online at a time to really hold a channel together on a permanent basis and a multiplayer chat is useless because we all want to play songs or mod or spec other people and go over 8 people but we also like to get together and organise things like mini tournaments and just generally talk crap.
With the chat system as it is this is not really possible, peppy is never going to make a south african channel and I don't remember there being an african channel approved so we are pretty much stuck. Even an african channel won't suit us because we want just South Africans in there.
Letting us create a private channel however fixes this issue
With the chat system as it is this is not really possible, peppy is never going to make a south african channel and I don't remember there being an african channel approved so we are pretty much stuck. Even an african channel won't suit us because we want just South Africans in there.
Letting us create a private channel however fixes this issue
You can use #spectator which allows you as many people as you want.
Just make it so we can use osu! in-game chat like it was IRC. Let us create channels and moderate them. Some groups of users who have enough knowledge to do so already do this on IRC and don't even use osu! chat. If a channel is 100% private it shouldn't need any kind of moderation. Of course, peppy should have administrator privileges and access to every channel just in case. But really if I make a chat channel with 10 friends and we want to talk about porn then why do you mind, we already do this for talking "forbidden matters" on #spectator or other chat platforms.theowest wrote:
Saten and I had an interesting conversation about this.
There must be an limit of some sort. Or else this would start to require moderating if things happen. I think one of the reason why people don't like to use the multiplayer chat is because there's only 8 slots. but can't someone just leave in case they're not having the conversation anymore? Not even #osu has conversations with over 8 people at the same time.
but don't get me wrong. This would be amazing for me with my closest friends since we're all connected in a way and we'd all love to discuss with each other in private, together sometimes.
Public channels would require moderation yeah, but then again you can just don't allow those and allow private ones. Just as you get auto-join to #osu and #announce when you log in, getting auto-join to some channels I'm subscribed/invited to would be cool. Then you need no real moderation. Just give privileges like kick/ban/invite to channel moderators, same to room creator + change password/disband channel. This won't really hurt anyone and it would make people use osu! chat more than they do now, since actually there is no way to have a nice chat group without having to go into #multiplayer (meaning you can't just go, play and read later) or #spectator (same, and this is a public channel).
Only thing that's bad about this is we're gonna be able to... chat group about almost whatever we want on osu!, which won't really hurt anyone. There may be more consequences but I can't think of any bad one, like having public channels lose some people, which isn't really bad at all for... anyone.
Well I think the problem isn't allowing everyone to be able to create their own channels, but how chat op's system work. Right now every chatop is able to use !kill command, this could be used to silence people which are not in their channel.
Perhaps but its limitation comes in when you want to spec someone else you get booted from that chat.Alpaka wrote:
You can use #spectator which allows you as many people as you want.
Like im organising a local competion with some people in my country and we'll obviously be speccing different people a lot so the spec chat becomes a non viable option.
We going to have to use skype but it would just be nice to not have to use a 3rd party program to do something that could be done ingame
support (╯o w o )╯ 彡 ☆
Yeah but then if you actually want to play/map/mod rather than spec someone, you leave the chat.Alpaka wrote:
You can use #spectator which allows you as many people as you want.
support this
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)bump o3o more support here
No stars, but supporting. Not everybody wants to switch to a separate chat client for the sake of having a small group chat.
I like this, support :3
We can also do tag modding by this private chat, oh i love to see it. Having different channel to discuss an issue is kinda anoying =3=
We can also do tag modding by this private chat, oh i love to see it. Having different channel to discuss an issue is kinda anoying =3=
yap yap a f*cking nice idea
Wow, I've been wanting this. And finally here are people with the same idea \:D/ Support.Ephemeral wrote:
This would be useful for IRC modding collab maps.
If the channels are created by users they can be self moderated by the user who created the channel by simply restricting the channel to be invite-only. The creator of the channel could have the power to silence users within the channel, remove users from the channel, blacklist users from the channel, limit the size of the channel, set whether invites can come only from the creator of the channel or from any player in the channel, and pass control of the channel to another user within the channel. Self-contained, non-persistent, private, and self-moderated. I don't see any problem with it other than implementation, and while this obviously isn't a super critical thing to have it would be a really nice feature if it were implemented that would surely see plenty of use.theowest wrote:
There must be an limit of some sort. Or else this would start to require moderating if things happen.
go go for this feature!
(have 3 stars for this)
(have 3 stars for this)
support +1
You've hit the nail on the head. By default on any IRC server you are allowed to freely create rooms on (or at east every one I've been on) when you create a new room, you are appointed mod immediately, giving you full moderation privilege across the room. Hell, technically speaking someone could actually write a an IRC moderation bot that can log into bancho and moderate their room automatically. It would involve having the bot log in as an existing account, or require making a new account, but it stands to reason that this is perfectly doable and probably a good idea if private chat rooms were to be allowed.NarrillNezzurh wrote:
If the channels are created by users they can be self moderated by the user who created the channel by simply restricting the channel to be invite-only. The creator of the channel could have the power to silence users within the channel, remove users from the channel, blacklist users from the channel, limit the size of the channel, set whether invites can come only from the creator of the channel or from any player in the channel, and pass control of the channel to another user within the channel. Self-contained, non-persistent, private, and self-moderated. I don't see any problem with it other than implementation, and while this obviously isn't a super critical thing to have it would be a really nice feature if it were implemented that would surely see plenty of use.theowest wrote:
There must be an limit of some sort. Or else this would start to require moderating if things happen.
Furthermore, I avoid most chat here specifically because I can't stand what happens when you have too many people in a room. It devolves into absurdities and immature garbage. I hang out in #osumania partly because I spend more time playing mania than standard, and partly because it's the only chat I can participate in that doesn't drive me mad. Small chat rooms between groups of friends allows people like myself to actually be social on a platform that otherwise would drive them away.
I've seen quite a few times where a bunch of my friends would all spectate someone just so we could chat in a private room. We shouldn't have to resort to abusing the system just to communicate in small groups.
Agree wholeheartedly with Bobbias above. actually somewhat surprised this feature isnt already in the game, as the feature exists in a standard irc channel, so I dont envision this as being too hard to implement. the quality of chat channels seriously degrade after a certain point, and it would be great to have somewhere not skype where you can chat to multiple friends at the same time.
Using #spectator is not "abusing the system". Please continue to do so (or use #multiplayer).
although multi and spectator are places where this is possible I'd like to be able to be to soloplay while still chatting with my friends in a chatroom. I spend most of my playing time solo playing, which a lot of people do, but I'd still like to chat inbetween retries and whatnot. in multi you're stuck playing the song the other people wants to, and they might be on very different skill level than you so you cannot possibly play the songs your friends can, and in addition to this its restricted to 8 people. in spectator you yourself cannot play, mod or do anything besides spectating and chatting.
In my opinion neither #spectator nor #multi fill the void of a private chatroom. not to mention that #spectator is a chat that literally anyone can jump in to.
In my opinion neither #spectator nor #multi fill the void of a private chatroom. not to mention that #spectator is a chat that literally anyone can jump in to.
I also spend most of my time playing solo. If I could still play solo and stay in #spectator it'd be fine, but sine that doesn't make any sense, I do think we should be able to have some way to chat with small groups.
I'm genuinely curious why you're against this, peppy, because I see no reason to not implement some better way to communicate with a select group of friends. Posting chat logs or manually relaying messages between friends (since some things shouldn't be posted to public rooms) is a HUGE pain. On top of that, if they were player moderated, there would be little potential for any sort of abuse of the system.
I'm genuinely curious why you're against this, peppy, because I see no reason to not implement some better way to communicate with a select group of friends. Posting chat logs or manually relaying messages between friends (since some things shouldn't be posted to public rooms) is a HUGE pain. On top of that, if they were player moderated, there would be little potential for any sort of abuse of the system.
Player moderation will never, ever be an option.
As for whether we have more private chat options, that depends on when I get around to the team system I have planned.
As for whether we have more private chat options, that depends on when I get around to the team system I have planned.
Topic Starter
this is much better than the reply from 3 years ago <3peppy wrote:
As for whether we have more private chat options, that depends on when I get around to the team system I have planned.
just wondering, if more private chats were added, would they be for clan/team chat only? or would it be added for more casual uses?
:< Well, at least I can understand that decision.peppy wrote:
Player moderation will never, ever be an option.
At least it's something.peppy wrote:
As for whether we have more private chat options, that depends on when I get around to the team system I have planned.
+1
would be helpful during the OWC weeks for team chatting (recruiting people, talking about pick strategies, etc.)
would be helpful during the OWC weeks for team chatting (recruiting people, talking about pick strategies, etc.)
its a very good idea but it should either have a people limit or be a donator feature, either way there should be some type of moderation or moderation group to supervise the system. if it does come to that i will apply for the PMGroup moderation PMGM for short. it would be a good feature regardless of the complications and it would greatly enhance gameplay.
Why should private chat be a supporter only feature?FireFoxZX wrote:
its a very good idea but it should either have a people limit or be a donator feature, either way there should be some type of moderation or moderation group to supervise the system. if it does come to that i will apply for the PMGroup moderation PMGM for short. it would be a good feature regardless of the complications and it would greatly enhance gameplay.
And did you read through the whole thread?
peppy wrote:
Player moderation will never, ever be an option.
Oinari-sama wrote:
Why should private chat be a supporter only feature?FireFoxZX wrote:
its a very good idea but it should either have a people limit or be a donator feature, either way there should be some type of moderation or moderation group to supervise the system. if it does come to that i will apply for the PMGroup moderation PMGM for short. it would be a good feature regardless of the complications and it would greatly enhance gameplay.
And did you read through the whole thread?peppy wrote:
Player moderation will never, ever be an option.
not player moderation im considering another moderator group entirely i have read this topic thoroughly i am suggesting another type of chat mod that can group jump to check on things also it should be a donator feature to limit its use so mods are not overwhelmed
and it should also be a supporter only feature due to the possible misuse of this feature there are plenty of reasons why only supporters should be able to use this feature
That's not a valid reason for it to be a supporter only feature. Being a supporter doesn't mean that he/she won't abuse a system.FireFoxZX wrote:
not player moderation im considering another moderator group entirely
and it should be a supporter only feature due to the possible misuse of this feature.
As for moderation I just see no necessity at all. Don't invite someone that needs to be "moderated" into your private chat. No additional moderation is necessary if it's not already handled by Bancho.
i just edited my previous statement reread it please (i edited it before you posted that lol)
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if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderatorsFireFoxZX wrote:
not player moderation im considering another moderator group entirely i have read this topic thoroughly i am suggesting another type of chat mod that can group jump to check on things also it should be a donator feature to limit its use so mods are not overwhelmed
i disagree. this should be an option for all players, not just supportersFireFoxZX wrote:
and it should also be a supporter only feature due to the possible misuse of this feature there are plenty of reasons why only supporters should be able to use this feature
it would be difficult to moderate for all players supporters or not and if we just added the chat moderators it would be no different than a new chat roomdeadbeat wrote:
if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderatorsFireFoxZX wrote:
not player moderation im considering another moderator group entirely i have read this topic thoroughly i am suggesting another type of chat mod that can group jump to check on things also it should be a donator feature to limit its use so mods are not overwhelmedi disagree. this should be an option for all players, not just supportersFireFoxZX wrote:
and it should also be a supporter only feature due to the possible misuse of this feature there are plenty of reasons why only supporters should be able to use this feature
If player moderation is not an option then allow users to create private channels with no moderation. XD
that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.Wishy wrote:
If player moderation is not an option then allow users to create private channels with no moderation. XD
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature
1: make them invite onlyFireFoxZX wrote:
that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.Wishy wrote:
If player moderation is not an option then allow users to create private channels with no moderation. XD
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature
2: if someone start acting like a retard just make a new channel
altho i do think the creator should at least be able to kick people from that specific channel
If private channels happen, then this should be possible. Then you don't even need moderators in there.silmarilen wrote:
altho i do think the creator should at least be able to kick people from that specific channel
Topic Starter
FireFoxZX wrote:
that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.Wishy wrote:
If player moderation is not an option then allow users to create private channels with no moderation. XD
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature
please listen to what is being saiddeadbeat wrote:
if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderators
firefoxzx wrote:
that wouldn't work becuse people could post inappropriate pics link to bad sites ETC.
we need moderation/mod group specifically for this feature
think about how many chat mods how many of them spek english if this was a feature there would be around 500 every day there is no possible way that this could be moderated with any type of effeciency without having an entirely different mod groupdeadbeat wrote:
if anyone will be doing that, it'd be the chat moderators
please listen to what is being said
well if it was that easy you think it would have already been added, it needs a seperate mod group its not some tiny little chat room its many people in many groups at the same time it would be horribly hard to moderate without multiple people/more chat mods until then well it sorta can't be done without legal difficultysilmarilen wrote:
1: make them invite only
2: if someone start acting like a retard just make a new channel
altho i do think the creator should at least be able to kick people from that specific channel
Topic Starter
it's not really important anyway, peppy already said player moderation won't happen
Marcin wrote:
If private channels happen, then this should be possible. Then you don't even need moderators in there.
Peppy wrote:
"Player moderation will never, ever be an option."
its not player moderation its a new type of chat mod group specifically for this feature a lower tier of chat mod but a higher tier of player a kind of staff (its very simple)
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these chats are the same as normal 1v1 private messages, just with more people. if there are issues within a private chat, !report is your best option
that wouldn't work what about the people who might deal illegally through pm'sdeadbeat wrote:
these chats are the same as normal 1v1 private messages, just with more people. if there are issues within a private chat, !report is your best option
PM's are not recorded on chat logs and thus there would also be a need to record the chat logs
and !report is not always reliable (it doesn't work for me)
I fully support the idea; it would be really useful to make a small group to chat with 
This is the problem for chatting in Osu!. The Chat moderator will have no idea of what is happening inside a private chat. So If we do something "Bad"
which most of the time I have no clue of what I did, we can get away with it. BUT, these things should keep it between one another. When on public chatroom, it means another thing. You get what I mean?
which most of the time I have no clue of what I did, we can get away with it. BUT, these things should keep it between one another. When on public chatroom, it means another thing. You get what I mean?
thanks for joining the clubminase_yukari wrote:
I support the idea and hope it will become a new feature. I always wanted to talk to my friends in a private chat on osu! :3
thats the point of a new mod-group its like a mike of a public chatroom and a private oneACEsushi wrote:
This is the problem for chatting in Osu!. The Chat moderator will have no idea of what is happening inside a private chat. So If we do something "Bad"
which most of the time I have no clue of what I did, we can get away with it. BUT, these things should keep it between one another. When on public chatroom, it means another thing. You get what I mean?
if at all we should limit these rooms to a certain number in order to not have 500000 inmoderatable rooms have 15 easily moderatable rooms and have it be a donator feature
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for the last time FireFoxZX:
there will be no new moderation group. the GMT/Chat ops will handle any issues with !reports
also having a limit on the amount of group chats is silly as well. what if i want to have a private chat with me and the rest of the support team. i'd have to join another group chat that has tons of other people in it. i might as well be talking in #osu >_>
there will be no new moderation group. the GMT/Chat ops will handle any issues with !reports
also having a limit on the amount of group chats is silly as well. what if i want to have a private chat with me and the rest of the support team. i'd have to join another group chat that has tons of other people in it. i might as well be talking in #osu >_>
Sounds like he just wants green name.
And without getting my post deleted.
Seems like a good idea since I like to speak with more than one sometimes but I have to keep two chat windows open orz.
And without getting my post deleted.
Seems like a good idea since I like to speak with more than one sometimes but I have to keep two chat windows open orz.
I support this idea some of my friends even goes to facebook just to groupchat.
Hope it will be available soon...
It would be nice. Especially if you're talking in #osu and then 3-4 odd people are talking about the same beatmap.
You can just invite them all to one chat, and maybe play a multiplayer match together.
You can just invite them all to one chat, and maybe play a multiplayer match together
.if i wanted a green name you think i would be speaking in green not blueRaging Bull wrote:
Sounds like he just wants green name.
And without getting my post deleted.
Seems like a good idea since I like to speak with more than one sometimes but I have to keep two chat windows open orz.
yes i aspire to be a moderator but i am not "trying" im helping out and expressing my opinion if they want to mod me so be it
and multiple chat windows are a bother i dont see why we have to put up with that, its one of the things that annoys me
another option is just make a #multiplayer for people not in multiplayer that would be fine, also i get the "NO NEW MODERATION GROUPS" but if this feature did get released the chat mods would be heavily understaffed unless you had a limit on the number of chat groups. if you had 5000 chat groups think of how many each SINGLE chat mod would have to check, its just not humanly possible i do not oppose the "NO NEW MODERATION GROUPS" my idea in fact it was just a stupid idea that might have solved the problem (it didn't) also the !report system only works if people want to report something so that would be out of the question (if you want to ask why please reread the forum)deadbeat wrote:
for the last time FireFoxZX:
there will be no new moderation group. the GMT/Chat ops will handle any issues with !reports
also having a limit on the amount of group chats is silly as well. what if i want to have a private chat with me and the rest of the support team. i'd have to join another group chat that has tons of other people in it. i might as well be talking in #osu >_>
Double posting everywhere =.=
Use the Edit button next time
Use the Edit button next time
i already read that please reread my posts i think you do not understand them yes private chats should not be moderated but also this would cuase many problems thus i recomended the room limit we cant just have 5000 unmoderated rooms that would be insane (AS FOR THE MODERATION I ALREADY DROPPED THAT)deadbeat wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2556767 FireFoxZX, please re-read what peppy said. i really don't think you understand. also there is now way i'd even want my private chats moderated anyway. it's private chat for a reason. now please stop with this moderation nonsense
EDIT: thank oinari for the reminderOinari-sama wrote:
Double posting everywhere =.=
Use the Edit button next time
Bump!
Primula_old
Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?
I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.
I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.
I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
No, I think it's not ( should be ) "custom irc channels".Primula wrote:
Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?
I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.
I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
If custom irc channels are used, someone who knew the channel can always join without invite, and someone could randomly enter it
Primula_old
IRC channels can have passwords set.. it'd be similar to how the #multiplayer channel works (you can choose whether to have your multiplayer match require a password, and you can invite others to it.. only people in the multiplayer match can use the #multiplayer chat).s4nji wrote:
No, I think it's not ( should be ) "custom irc channels".Primula wrote:
Basically - capability of making your own custom irc channels?
I think this would be a wonderful addition to osu!, I'd much prefer talking to my own group of friends in private ratherthan individually or through the default public channels.
I do think it would be nice to at least be able to kick people from the channel though because if that wouldn't be the case, you would have to remake the channel with another name and invite everyone else just to get rid of the person you wanted to kick. >w<
If custom irc channels are used, someone who knew the channel can always join without invite, and someone could randomly enter it
Also, you're able to kick people from a multiplayer match, isn't that a form of moderation? So why would we not be allowed to kick people from our own private channels?
Bump. As already said. Make it like a multi lobby. You need to press "Create Chat lobby" (for instance), and then you can select for it too be Public or private. Private would req an invite from the owner of the lobby only, too increase moderation of the lobby. Public anyone can find it in some kind of chat list.
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no, it's still a private chat. private chats aren't limited to 1 on 1 conversations :p
Good Idea, voted for it. (even if i don't play anymore) \:D/
I can already see how big of a pain this could be to implement. But seeing all the suggestions thrown around says otherwise. I think BanchoBot should give op power to the original creator of the private chat.
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what. no. that's silly. most they'd EVER need is a kick function. and even, i still don't see a huge needKitokofox wrote:
I think BanchoBot should give op power to the original creator of the private chat.