Unvote. Just on the odd chance that BRBp isn't scum and also I'd love to hear other people's opinions on this just in case scum decide to quick hammer.
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Did you even evaluate my reasoning...or even Jinx's reason at all?
I am now relatively convinced that Lilac is scum. What Jinxy said sounds about right to me and is fairly believable in my opinion.
This also completely changes my view on BRBP + DD but I still haven't fully figured it out so I don't have any conclusions on them yet.
I'm tired as shit though and I barely had any sleep last night so I'll make a more proper post once I'm actually awake.
This also completely changes my view on BRBP + DD but I still haven't fully figured it out so I don't have any conclusions on them yet.
I'm tired as shit though and I barely had any sleep last night so I'll make a more proper post once I'm actually awake.
Wait wait, what...?
Are you kidding...?
Wow... I don't even... Ugh...
Are you kidding...?
Wow... I don't even... Ugh...
It doesn't really help that you claimed (x-shot) nightvig along with your inventor role that you've conveniently messed up to be unconfirmable until now. And you went back against what you said you were going to do last night ._.
I don't really understand/believe the reason that you gave us for not shooting Dake last night. It makes it look like you were trying to avoid something.
I don't really understand/believe the reason that you gave us for not shooting Dake last night. It makes it look like you were trying to avoid something.
I was trying to avoid a town death just in case Dake was town.
Tanz essentially confirmed him to be town now since his role showed it and with PGO more than likely to be town.
Don't let Jinx deceive you, the cop claim is just a quick way to get me lynched to win the game cause that's the "easiest" way. What else do you want?
Tanz essentially confirmed him to be town now since his role showed it and with PGO more than likely to be town.
Don't let Jinx deceive you, the cop claim is just a quick way to get me lynched to win the game cause that's the "easiest" way. What else do you want?
Yeah but I don't know why you'd agree with Tanz on shooting Dake in the first place if you considered the possibility of him being town in the first place. Also, we were under the assumption that he's a commuter.
This part doesn't really make much sense...Lilac wrote:
If Dake was mafia and I shot him, scum would mean that they had me as a confirmed townie and that means I would have been confirmed town after shooting another mafia person, so mafia would have to shoot me at the same night to not have a Mimi as PGO and BRBP as Dayvig running around.
On top of that, if you were so scared to lose another townie, then why did you insist on going for a lynch yesterday? Why did you suddenly hold back on your shot when you were originally planning on lynching, then shooting somebody during the night?
I really wish I could have more time to stay up but it's midnight as is now and I really don't blame what choice you make.
If you want to wait for me until I wake up in 7 hours then that would be lovely, otherwise I understand. I've given my reasons through PoE anyway.
If you want to wait for me until I wake up in 7 hours then that would be lovely, otherwise I understand. I've given my reasons through PoE anyway.
Which part doesn't make sense? I didn't really agree, I even said in one of my post to Jinx to scan Dake "to see if I shoot him". I might look terrible by not holding to that promise but I'm glad I didn't otherwise we would have lost the game.Kitsunemimi wrote:
Yeah but I don't know why you'd agree with Tanz on shooting Dake in the first place if you considered the possibility of him being town in the first place. Also, we were under the assumption that he's a commuter.This part doesn't really make much sense...Lilac wrote:
If Dake was mafia and I shot him, scum would mean that they had me as a confirmed townie and that means I would have been confirmed town after shooting another mafia person, so mafia would have to shoot me at the same night to not have a Mimi as PGO and BRBP as Dayvig running around.
Short answer, during that night, it could have ended into two townie deaths if I shot differently and a lynch on that day would have shorten the chances but I still might have been wrong IF I was randomly shooting.Kitsunemimi wrote:
On top of that, if you were so scared to lose another townie, then why did you insist on going for a lynch yesterday? Why did you suddenly hold back on your shot when you were originally planning on lynching, then shooting somebody during the night?
Ugh, the amount of regret giving BRBP BP is too much.
I have no idea what you were trying to say at all here. p/2508052
So, you claim you didn't actually try and shoot Dake because you felt he might be town and didn't want to risk a town death? Dake's a Commuter, he wouldn't have died even if you shot him. More like you couldn't actually shoot him so you made that excuse.
And after reading and rereading the post, you never actually get to the point where you're defending yourself. You conclude that Dake and Mimi are town, and then proceed conclude that I'm scum with BRBP, and you never give any reasons to say why you can't be scum. You don't have a real argument, and you're just trying to bluff through my result.
I'm going to sleep, too. I expect a hammered scum when I wake up tomorrow.
So, you claim you didn't actually try and shoot Dake because you felt he might be town and didn't want to risk a town death? Dake's a Commuter, he wouldn't have died even if you shot him. More like you couldn't actually shoot him so you made that excuse.
And after reading and rereading the post, you never actually get to the point where you're defending yourself. You conclude that Dake and Mimi are town, and then proceed conclude that I'm scum with BRBP, and you never give any reasons to say why you can't be scum. You don't have a real argument, and you're just trying to bluff through my result.
I'm going to sleep, too. I expect a hammered scum when I wake up tomorrow.
Before putting my vote
@BRBP: Did you receive the BP from Lilac?
@Lilac: knowing that I'm a commuter (not a hider), why did you tell you were going to shoot me? Also, if Jinxy uses Voyeur on me, he gets nothing, and yet you said him to do it.
@BRBP: Did you receive the BP from Lilac?
@Lilac: knowing that I'm a commuter (not a hider), why did you tell you were going to shoot me? Also, if Jinxy uses Voyeur on me, he gets nothing, and yet you said him to do it.
The one thing that irks me the most was the way Lilac interacted with RB. Like, I'm having a lot of difficulty getting that and the idea that Lilac is mafia to work together. It's as if he's super pro-town one day, and then he suddenly gets kinda weird the next day, and now he's become all scummy because of that.
It makes me think of the possibility that Lilac is a Mafia Traitor, and RB wasn't aware of him, and he took advantage of that to give him instant towncred to propel him all the way through to the end of the game. He was in a good position to do it too, with 3 dead (including a 2-shot reviver) by the first day. I'm not fully sure of how traitors work however.
Another possibility would be that he's a survivor, and with the odds beginning to stack against the town, he made the switch to attempt to side with mafia. This one seems to work out pretty well, but then the problem would be that the faction ratio would then be rather messed up.
Like, I literally can't find any reason for you to claim so randomly like that and say you're going to shoot someone but not do it. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your intentions here, but the only the only thing you've managed to do (at least according to my interpretation) is totally confuse everyone.
It makes me think of the possibility that Lilac is a Mafia Traitor, and RB wasn't aware of him, and he took advantage of that to give him instant towncred to propel him all the way through to the end of the game. He was in a good position to do it too, with 3 dead (including a 2-shot reviver) by the first day. I'm not fully sure of how traitors work however.
Another possibility would be that he's a survivor, and with the odds beginning to stack against the town, he made the switch to attempt to side with mafia. This one seems to work out pretty well, but then the problem would be that the faction ratio would then be rather messed up.
Then you shouldn't have claimed in the first plaaaaace @_@Lilac wrote:
Short answer, during that night, it could have ended into two townie deaths if I shot differently and a lynch on that day would have shorten the chances but I still might have been wrong IF I was randomly shooting.Kitsunemimi wrote:
On top of that, if you were so scared to lose another townie, then why did you insist on going for a lynch yesterday? Why did you suddenly hold back on your shot when you were originally planning on lynching, then shooting somebody during the night?
Like, I literally can't find any reason for you to claim so randomly like that and say you're going to shoot someone but not do it. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding your intentions here, but the only the only thing you've managed to do (at least according to my interpretation) is totally confuse everyone.
It was to confirm whether Jinx's role was bogus or not. He stated two actions that were essentially something anyone could claim. Are you telling me you could commute everyday?
And if you had a one-shot cop, why wait until LyLo to use it? Why of all times?!
I'll tell you why I'm not scum. I admit to stuffing up twice. Stuffing up giving Jailkeep to scum and stuffing up giving cop to a dead guy, with the help of farto I got the roleblocker lynched. I admit that I might have given bulletproof to one of the last remaining scum. Most of all, I don't wait until LyLo to reveal all of my role.
And if you had a one-shot cop, why wait until LyLo to use it? Why of all times?!
I'll tell you why I'm not scum. I admit to stuffing up twice. Stuffing up giving Jailkeep to scum and stuffing up giving cop to a dead guy, with the help of farto I got the roleblocker lynched. I admit that I might have given bulletproof to one of the last remaining scum. Most of all, I don't wait until LyLo to reveal all of my role.
If Jinx used Voyuer he still would have got an attempt for me to shoot you even if I did.
I might not have shot like I did but Jinx didn't use his voyeur like he said he would either.
I might not have shot like I did but Jinx didn't use his voyeur like he said he would either.
even if you were commuter and commuted and I actually shot*
I got 'weird' by just complete overconfidence in my role. I mean an Inventor with 1-shot vig? Who wouldn't?
I got 'weird' by just complete overconfidence in my role. I mean an Inventor with 1-shot vig? Who wouldn't?
So you gave the BP to someone that you don't trust? You could've chosen to not give anything, to avoid more mistakes.
It's more like I gave BP to a person, who by PoE next day, was a bad choice.
There's one more thing Jinx didn't explain either.
Jinx, tell me. If I was scum, who is the last scum buddy with me? Since it's LyLo tomorrow as well if we hit scum right today, now is the best time to discuss that as well.
Jinx, tell me. If I was scum, who is the last scum buddy with me? Since it's LyLo tomorrow as well if we hit scum right today, now is the best time to discuss that as well.
Because I was waiting till there were less people to use it. I was going to use it prior to MyLo but then N2's double kill happened which instantly propelled the game to MyLo. I've said this thrice now.Lilac wrote:
And if you had a one-shot cop, why wait until LyLo to use it? Why of all times?!
You're not scum because you admit to doing scummy or unconfirmable things? What?Lilac wrote:
I'll tell you why I'm not scum. I admit to stuffing up twice. Stuffing up giving Jailkeep to scum and stuffing up giving cop to a dead guy, with the help of farto I got the roleblocker lynched. I admit that I might have given bulletproof to one of the last remaining scum. Most of all, I don't wait until LyLo to reveal all of my role.
Also, if I had fullclaimed yesterday I would have been killed by you last night
Actually, now that Dake has said it, no, it wouldn't. You asked me to Voyeur a Commuter, there's no way I would've gotten any result!Lilac wrote:
If Jinx used Voyuer he still would have got an attempt for me to shoot you even if I did.
I might not have shot like I did but Jinx didn't use his voyeur like he said he would either.
Also, I didn't Voyeur because I had a Cop ability which is much more useful. You didn't shoot Dake because of some weird excuse I don't even understand, like you didn't want to risk a town kill when he's already a Commuter and can't be shot.
The only remaining person that it could be is BRBP.Lilac wrote:
There's one more thing Jinx didn't explain either.
Jinx, tell me. If I was scum, who is the last scum buddy with me? Since it's LyLo tomorrow as well if we hit scum right today, now is the best time to discuss that as well.
Now, before you claim your vote on BRBP earlier on proves you aren't scum, you unvoted before anyone, save BRBP himself, reacted. That looked more like weak distancing to me.
I propose this, if you think my scum buddy is BRBP, lynch him first. You have a cop read of scum on me, and I'm not going to die at night since I must have completely lied about my vig and I'm actually scum. You can lynch me tomorrow since I must be alive by then and scum since your cop is irrefutable.
Vote: BRBP. What do you say?
Vote: BRBP. What do you say?
Topic Starter
votecount 4.1
Lilac (1) - Jinxy (L - 2)
BRBP (1) - Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 57:31
Lilac (1) - Jinxy (L - 2)
BRBP (1) - Lilac (L - 2)
deadline is in 57:31
You also agree that BRBP is mafia dayvig, Jinx?
You actually didn't?BRBP wrote:
I didn't get a message from mod that you gave me BP
I'd say you're trying to pull something off tonight that will guarantee scum the win, by bussing your partner that has no more abilities left and avoiding your own lynch.Lilac wrote:
I propose this, if you think my scum buddy is BRBP, lynch him first. You have a cop read of scum on me, and I'm not going to die at night since I must have completely lied about my vig and I'm actually scum. You can lynch me tomorrow since I must be alive by then and scum since your cop is irrefutable.
Vote: BRBP. What do you say?
And yeah, he's most likely a mafia dayvig, considering he shot NH D1
What can I do, Jinx? What can I do to win after my scum buddy is dead? Your cop showed I was scum so what can I do as scum to win at night?Jinxy wrote:
I'd say you're trying to pull something off tonight that will guarantee scum the win, by bussing your partner that has no more abilities left and avoiding your own lynch.Lilac wrote:
I propose this, if you think my scum buddy is BRBP, lynch him first. You have a cop read of scum on me, and I'm not going to die at night since I must have completely lied about my vig and I'm actually scum. You can lynch me tomorrow since I must be alive by then and scum since your cop is irrefutable.
Vote: BRBP. What do you say?
And yeah, he's most likely a mafia dayvig, considering he shot NH D1
Hell if I know, only you know what you plan to do, but I'm not making a deal with obvious scum. The fact that you even suggested this plan means you have an ulterior motive.
What is this ulterior motive you speak of? Mafia have only one factional kill.
By PoE you've stated BRBP and I are scum. What role would I have to fulfil this ulterior motive? You've cornered both scum.
By PoE you've stated BRBP and I are scum. What role would I have to fulfil this ulterior motive? You've cornered both scum.
Alright, fine.
Vote: BRBP
Vote: BRBP
Hi.
Vote: BRBP
Vote: BRBP
Wait what, hold on what the hell.
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Well played, scum.
Scum can't win anyway.
I shoot Jinx, they shoot me, Mimi as PGO leves this game as a tie.
I shoot Jinx, they shoot me, Mimi as PGO leves this game as a tie.
Unless there's something different with Dake's role.
We'll just have to wait for night and see.
We'll just have to wait for night and see.
What the fuck.
Jinxy, your cop report says Lilac is scum right?
Lilac is telling you to lynch BRBP because according to you, they're both scum. By doing this, either a) Lilac proves that he is not scum and your report is wrong, b) They're both scum and Lilac just completely threw the game for himself, c) BRBP is town and we lose.
Is there something I'm not understanding here?
Jinxy, your cop report says Lilac is scum right?
Lilac is telling you to lynch BRBP because according to you, they're both scum. By doing this, either a) Lilac proves that he is not scum and your report is wrong, b) They're both scum and Lilac just completely threw the game for himself, c) BRBP is town and we lose.
Is there something I'm not understanding here?
The cop report was a lie. It was just icing on the cake to lynch me.
Is BRBP actually scum or not? I was lying about that whole scum team thing with me and him but I did give BP to him so saying that he didn't get it was really bad.
Is BRBP actually scum or not? I was lying about that whole scum team thing with me and him but I did give BP to him so saying that he didn't get it was really bad.
If the cop report was a lie and Jinxy is scum then why did he vote?
We had the rest of the day to dispute this, DD why did you have to go and hammer orz
We had the rest of the day to dispute this, DD why did you have to go and hammer orz
My earlier role claims are true.
I haven't lied about mod's actions.
I haven't lied about mod's actions.
Sorry, but I have to.
Silly fox.
Silly fox.
Maybe cause he's actually scum?
I wouldn't have seen this coming so if he is, good game.
I wouldn't have seen this coming so if he is, good game.
So obviously my role was stopped, or delayed.
I didn't get a confirmation of my role going through so I should have seen this coming.
I blame Tanz.
I didn't get a confirmation of my role going through so I should have seen this coming.
I blame Tanz.
I take that back, I blame mod.
Actually, I won.
Blame Lilac.
Blame Lilac.
A second faction?
Ha. Now I'm definitely blaming mod.
Ha. Now I'm definitely blaming mod.
I hate playing with all you irrational people who simply vote on a whim 
I voted BRBP because I was more than sure he was scum. Not receiving BP just made me all the more sure but I didn't think of the possibility of a role that would stop or null it.
Possibly even absorb it by the looks of it.
Possibly even absorb it by the looks of it.
Topic Starter
BRBP (3) - Lilac, Jinxy, DakeDekaane
Remi ~~
yes?
we think the witch is obviously guilty. after all, she destroyed a whole room of the mansion D1, so it has to be her ~
Marisa didn't like hearing this..
"MASTER SPA-"
*grabs Marisa by the throat*
be quiet. And stop moving, it'll be less painful that way ~ fufufu ~
Remi dragged Marisa into the other room. almost immediately, the power went out in the mansion and Marisa started screaming.
don't say something like "there's no power in Gensokyo plz" LOL
BRBP (Kirisame Marisa) - 1-shot Dayvig - lynched D4
It is N4. Deadline is 8/17 2:00 GMT (23:59 from now)
Remi ~~
yes?
we think the witch is obviously guilty. after all, she destroyed a whole room of the mansion D1, so it has to be her ~
Marisa didn't like hearing this..
"MASTER SPA-"
*grabs Marisa by the throat*
be quiet. And stop moving, it'll be less painful that way ~ fufufu ~
Remi dragged Marisa into the other room. almost immediately, the power went out in the mansion and Marisa started screaming.
don't say something like "there's no power in Gensokyo plz" LOL
BRBP (Kirisame Marisa) - 1-shot Dayvig - lynched D4
It is N4. Deadline is 8/17 2:00 GMT (23:59 from now)
Topic Starter
there is no reason at all to wait the full 24 hours, night ends here
Kagiyama Hina and Kawashiro nitori woke
...however, there was no light. None, but a faint, deep scarlet light coming in from outside. They immediately became completely filled with pure fear, but they got out of bed and exited their rooms anyway.
They were immediately greeted by a pair of glowing red eyes.
Remilia: "I'd just like to say, thank you all for coming. This really was a lot of fun ~"
...and then another pair of glowing red eyes
Flandre: "Hey, Remi! Can we just get this over with already ~ "
The power came back on, and they found Patchouli Knowledge and Kaku Seiga standing there, along with...Flandre Scarlet?!
Hina: "But this can't be! We thought you were dead!"
Nitori: "how? why? Is this the end...?"
Flandre: "fufufu ~ don't you realize it? No one could actually kill me. I'm surprised you didn't figure it out earlier ~"
Hina: "More importantly, Remilia...why are you teaming up with them? They're trying to kill us it seems..."
Remilia: "I said I was bored, right? This way was more interesting. Hope you all don't mind ~"
Flandre: "We just wanted to have some fun ~ now, who wants to play first? ~~"
Nitori wouldn't have any of this. She pulled a gun out of nowhere and
Nitori: "TAKE THIS"
In an instant, Remi appeared at her side and pinned her to the ground. In the next instant, Flan also appeared by her side and immediately killed her.
Hina just stood there, trembling and paralyzed with fear. It seemed there was nothing she could do.
Seiga: "hahaha ~ so who should do it?"
Remilia: "I'll do it. It's only fitting that the last person alive has the honor of being killed by myself ~
Hina and Remilia started having an epic danmaku battle right inside the mansion. It seemed Hina was somehow holding her own for a few minutes, but then Patchouli and Seiga joined in. They all coordinated a massive light show attack at the end and there was just no contest (but wow, it sure looked pretty...)
Lilac (Kawashiro Nitori) - Inventor - endgamed
Kitsunemimi (Kagiyama Hina) - Doctor/PGO - endgamed
DakeDekaane (Patchouli Knowledge) - Mafia Commuter - WINNER
Jinxy (Kaku Seiga) - Mafia Bus Driver - WINNER
Mafia wins :>
Actions:
Kagiyama Hina and Kawashiro nitori woke
...however, there was no light. None, but a faint, deep scarlet light coming in from outside. They immediately became completely filled with pure fear, but they got out of bed and exited their rooms anyway.
They were immediately greeted by a pair of glowing red eyes.
Remilia: "I'd just like to say, thank you all for coming. This really was a lot of fun ~"
...and then another pair of glowing red eyes
Flandre: "Hey, Remi! Can we just get this over with already ~ "
The power came back on, and they found Patchouli Knowledge and Kaku Seiga standing there, along with...Flandre Scarlet?!
Hina: "But this can't be! We thought you were dead!"
Nitori: "how? why? Is this the end...?"
Flandre: "fufufu ~ don't you realize it? No one could actually kill me. I'm surprised you didn't figure it out earlier ~"
Hina: "More importantly, Remilia...why are you teaming up with them? They're trying to kill us it seems..."
Remilia: "I said I was bored, right? This way was more interesting. Hope you all don't mind ~"
Flandre: "We just wanted to have some fun ~ now, who wants to play first? ~~"
Nitori wouldn't have any of this. She pulled a gun out of nowhere and
Nitori: "TAKE THIS"
In an instant, Remi appeared at her side and pinned her to the ground. In the next instant, Flan also appeared by her side and immediately killed her.
Hina just stood there, trembling and paralyzed with fear. It seemed there was nothing she could do.
Seiga: "hahaha ~ so who should do it?"
Remilia: "I'll do it. It's only fitting that the last person alive has the honor of being killed by myself ~
Hina and Remilia started having an epic danmaku battle right inside the mansion. It seemed Hina was somehow holding her own for a few minutes, but then Patchouli and Seiga joined in. They all coordinated a massive light show attack at the end and there was just no contest (but wow, it sure looked pretty...)
Lilac (Kawashiro Nitori) - Inventor - endgamed
Kitsunemimi (Kagiyama Hina) - Doctor/PGO - endgamed
DakeDekaane (Patchouli Knowledge) - Mafia Commuter - WINNER
Jinxy (Kaku Seiga) - Mafia Bus Driver - WINNER
Mafia wins :>
Actions:
- D1:
- BRBP shoots NoHItter before he gets a chance to do anything
N1: - Lilac gives JK to RB
- Rantai neighborizes Kitsunemimi and dies before forming an actual neighborhood
- Kitsunemimi protects Sakura, redirected to fartownik
- Tanz investigates Lilac, got roleblocked
- Jinxy drives Sakura & fartownik
- RB kills fartownik, redirected to Sakura, roleblocks Tanz
- Dake commutes
- Sakura dies
N2: - Lilac gives cop to Royston who died
- Tanz investigates Dake who commuted
- Kitsunemimi protects Lilac
- Jinxy kills fartownik
- Dake commutes
- fartownik dies and Royston suicides
N3: - Lilac gives 1-shot bulletproof to BRBP, drove to Jinxy
- Tanz investigates Jinxy, drove to BRBP
- Jinxy drives self and BRBP, kills Tanz (don't complain that mafia driver can target self, town had watcher + gunsmith + doctor + reviver so
) - Dake commutes
- Tanz dies
N4: - Dake commutes
- Tanz kills Lilac
- other actions are irrelevant cause mafia already wins with this, no matter what (as Jinxy has 1-shot bulletproof). doctor can protect Lilac but mafia still gets majority D5 as they can't die N4
- that was probably the worst possible use of the town PRs @_@ 1-shot dayvig kills watcher D1 nullifying both of them, reviver dies N1 before reviving anyone, neighborizer targets PGO before forming a neighborhood, gunsmith didn't get any result the whole game, inventor gave 2 things to mafia and one to the mafia's target
- I went against meta and put a mafia commuter. I wanted to make sure town had to rely on scumhunting :3
- Sakura (Sanae)'s role PM mentioned a big miracle happening if she had enough time to prepare. If she was alive on D7 it would be a town instawin. (except there was no way the game would go to D7 so there was no point )
- obv, Kitsunemimi didn't know he was PGO. there was a line in his role PM about "bad luck causing problems" and that's what it was
- before anyone asks, how the mafia commuter works: Dake doesn't commute if he submits the kill, just that
- if anything I'd say this setup was in favor of town, so mafia winning with 2 people alive seems pretty good 0.0
- Mafia chat http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tNbwyQndLxZ
- Dead chat http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eqEgrRruD885g
- fartownik and Royston's Komeiji chat http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/h5jnqBfzfyMWu
- Rantai's lonely neighborhood chat http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/naHDaZyazY4Xh
Surprised noone listened to fart
imma lynch Lilac in real life now, brb.
There was essentially no way I could have convinced otherwise. I was gone the moment I gave RB JK and that Tanz confirmed a commuter role.
Great job, scum.
Great job, scum.
gg guys. Kinda confusing for my first game, but fun all the same
Topic Starter
btw I just wanna say, sorry again about all the deadline BS around D2
I was on vacation which messed up my sleep schedule, orz..
I was on vacation which messed up my sleep schedule, orz..
Damn, there would've been problems if fart was protected N2, got careless there. Though, why didn't you protect fart, mimi?
Oh well. I had fun and learnt that auxiliary roles are not for me. I'll stick to choosing Vanilla Town next time.
Ahh, so much for that~ I messed up my role so badly ;w;. Also, claiming PGO without actually knowing it and being a doc at the same time is harder than you think.
That said, if I managed to land any of my protections then we could've won the game too.
Lilac too ;_; If you didn't claim so suddenly and hadn't acted so strangely on the last day then it would've went a lot smoother, and you could've handed out your roles better...
I guess my bad luck just... spread around to everyone in the game and we messed up in every way possible :<. Still though, l had a lot of fun, especially during the dramatic moments~
my terrible doc reasoning
Seriously though BRBP if you hadn't fucked up, we would've most likely won (butterfly effect). We would've had another person alive with an extra investigative role, you could've used your shot on actual scum, and you wouldn't have been super fucking scummy the whole game .3.N2 I was debating whether to protect Lilac or fart; fart mentioned to protect him, but that was before Lilac claimed, and that changed my opinion. In the end, I second guessed myself and thought it would be too obvious that I would protect fart (I didn't think Jinxy was mafia at the time so I thought that to everyone else in the game there was still the possibility of a doc since he didn't claim yet). Also, I felt that Lilac's role was more valuable/OP for various reasons.
N3 I couldn't decide again, I figured that at that point, Tanz was a low-priority target because I expected Lilac + Jinxy to move according to their plan and confirm themselves, so I tried to protect Lilac again to no avail ._.
N3 I couldn't decide again, I figured that at that point, Tanz was a low-priority target because I expected Lilac + Jinxy to move according to their plan and confirm themselves, so I tried to protect Lilac again to no avail ._.
That said, if I managed to land any of my protections then we could've won the game too.
Lilac too ;_; If you didn't claim so suddenly and hadn't acted so strangely on the last day then it would've went a lot smoother, and you could've handed out your roles better...
I guess my bad luck just... spread around to everyone in the game and we messed up in every way possible :<. Still though, l had a lot of fun, especially during the dramatic moments~
oh wow the dead chat
I knew it was our ticket to victory when Kanye/Dake got Commuter Patche. Like, he was more town than a flipped dayvig lol (granted, that was BRBP, but still)
I really didn't expect a sibling flip on fart/Roy, though it really did look stupidly obvious after that since they were, well, siblings.
That was the most tiring and stressful game yet for me because of how much I was trying to predict night actions and manipulate them. I guess I got slightly lucky too, most of the people I was concerned about being tough opponents all died early due to shenanigans.
I guess that's all I have to say. gg.
I knew it was our ticket to victory when Kanye/Dake got Commuter Patche. Like, he was more town than a flipped dayvig lol (granted, that was BRBP, but still)
I really didn't expect a sibling flip on fart/Roy, though it really did look stupidly obvious after that since they were, well, siblings.
That was the most tiring and stressful game yet for me because of how much I was trying to predict night actions and manipulate them. I guess I got slightly lucky too, most of the people I was concerned about being tough opponents all died early due to shenanigans.
I guess that's all I have to say. gg.
Tanz OP.pieguy1372 wrote:
N3:
- Tanz dies
N4:- Tanz kills Lilac
GG guys :3
BRBP let me give you a great quote you should follow:
pieguy1372 wrote:
don't do anything stupid plz
Dedicated
Never forget
we're even now, though
Never forget
we're even now, though
Topic Starter
hahaha, in fact that quote was there just cause the previous two Touhou PyPs ended in bad ways > <
(someone posted role PM...in fact that's the main motivation for me putting it there, then the 3rd one was abandoned)
I just wanted so much to finish this game. I'm so glad we finally got to finish another Touhou PyP, I've wanted it to happen for so long ~
(someone posted role PM...in fact that's the main motivation for me putting it there, then the 3rd one was abandoned)
I just wanted so much to finish this game. I'm so glad we finally got to finish another Touhou PyP, I've wanted it to happen for so long ~
sorry but mafia commuter is kinda BS.
it's basically unbeatable as soon as town confirms the commuter, because commuter is always never mafia aligned.
maybe you should role alignment first, and then give roles out accordingly? because some things are just not really beatable (we would've literally done better against that wothout any PRs whatsoever, and town normally has a slight PR-power advantage to balance the fact that town doesn't know jackshit).
it's basically unbeatable as soon as town confirms the commuter, because commuter is always never mafia aligned.
maybe you should role alignment first, and then give roles out accordingly? because some things are just not really beatable (we would've literally done better against that wothout any PRs whatsoever, and town normally has a slight PR-power advantage to balance the fact that town doesn't know jackshit).
I agree that mafia commuter is a little bastardy in the sense that it's really unexpected, but I disagree it's completely unbeatable. The commuter cannot kill if he's commuting, so he's pretty much done for if he's last scum standing. Though, maybe a non-consecutive commuter would have been more balanced. Bus driver is also in a sense, twice as likely to be seen due to the double targeting. The game would have proceeded much more differently if the watcher wasn't taken out so early.
brbp for scum mvp
brbp for scum mvp
I kinda want to ban all Touhou PyPs from this forum since every one from I to IV was terrible.
I'll make the Matrix9 Touhou flavoured. There we go.
I'll make the Matrix9 Touhou flavoured. There we go.
also
MIMI Y U NO PROTECT OBV TARGETS?!?!?!
MIMI Y U NO PROTECT OBV TARGETS?!?!?!
Give him a break. He had it harder than anyone else and poor decisions are things we all make.
I'll plan TH PYP V - FIFTH TIME THE CHARMLilac wrote:
I kinda want to ban all Touhou PyPs from this forum since every one from I to IV was terrible.
All roles will be perfectly balanced, everything planned to the smallest detail, and then I'll fuck up as mod like my 3 other games
D:BRBP wrote:
Dedicated
Never forget
we're even now, though
I completely forgot about that one until now lol
.v.
sorry, it wasn't meant viciously, but I know I can get kind of rude.
I also conveniently forgot that I myself played like shit at least at day 1 aswell (though I can't be really hold accountable for the commuterthingy I guess).
sorry, it wasn't meant viciously, but I know I can get kind of rude.
I also conveniently forgot that I myself played like shit at least at day 1 aswell (though I can't be really hold accountable for the commuterthingy I guess).
you can never plan aroundJinxy wrote:
I'll plan TH PYP V - FIFTH TIME THE CHARMLilac wrote:
I kinda want to ban all Touhou PyPs from this forum since every one from I to IV was terrible.
All roles will be perfectly balanced, everything planned to the smallest detail, and then I'll fuck up as mod like my 3 other games
the BRBP effect.
New 5th Touhou Mafia: hosted by NoHitter
13-P; The boss characters from each of the 13 main games battle it out in a game of spellcards and killing.
Who will win? Stay tuned! not
13-P; The boss characters from each of the 13 main games battle it out in a game of spellcards and killing.
Who will win? Stay tuned! not
...No.Jinxy wrote:
I'll plan TH PYP V - FIFTH TIME THE CHARMLilac wrote:
I kinda want to ban all Touhou PyPs from this forum since every one from I to IV was terrible.
All roles will be perfectly balanced, everything planned to the smallest detail, and then I'll fuck up as mod like my 3 other games
No.NoHitter wrote:
New 5th Touhou Mafia: hosted by NoHitter
13-P; The boss characters from each of the 13 main games battle it out in a game of spellcards and killing.
Who will win? Stay tuned! not
I will personally stop cosplaying Touhou if the next game for Touhou is terrible.
So how did exactly Jinxy not blow up by bus driving kitsunemimi?
What? I never did
Sakura - Fart
No Action
Me - BRBP
No Action
Sakura - Fart
No Action
Me - BRBP
No Action
he didnt bus drive Kitsune?
so what I've learned from this game is
-don't trust the wiki too much
-never ever give BRBP dayvig. ever.
-gamebalance is something very important, but also hard to do (in the optimum case town would've won night1 without even one person dead, worst case is probably close to this)
-a gunsmith is really not that great in a set up in which half the players carry guns arround regardless of alignment (or they are commuters...)
-I still need to learn a lot before I can consider myself a passable player
overall, this game was still fun. the balance was swingy as hell (fuck, after essentially all useful PRs died in the first 2 nights or used their power [BRBP], we just didn't have the combat strength to fight this monster anymore).
though... if I had survived night 3, would I have gotten a positive result on jinxy due to BRBP being a dayvig peviously? that would've been really funny, as the whole thing would've kinda collapsed with that.
also a fun fact: they found tons of guns in my room when i died. I never found a single gun in the game. go logic \:D/
-don't trust the wiki too much
-never ever give BRBP dayvig. ever.
-gamebalance is something very important, but also hard to do (in the optimum case town would've won night1 without even one person dead, worst case is probably close to this)
-a gunsmith is really not that great in a set up in which half the players carry guns arround regardless of alignment (or they are commuters...)
-I still need to learn a lot before I can consider myself a passable player
overall, this game was still fun. the balance was swingy as hell (fuck, after essentially all useful PRs died in the first 2 nights or used their power [BRBP], we just didn't have the combat strength to fight this monster anymore).
though... if I had survived night 3, would I have gotten a positive result on jinxy due to BRBP being a dayvig peviously? that would've been really funny, as the whole thing would've kinda collapsed with that.
also a fun fact: they found tons of guns in my room when i died. I never found a single gun in the game. go logic \:D/
I thought it was funny how you confirmed Dake as town.
well, tell me, what would've you thought in my situation? surely not "HMM, HE MUST BE MAFIA COMMUTER, THE 0,01% MUST HAVE STRIKED!"Raging Bull wrote:
I thought it was funny how you confirmed Dake as town.
Topic Starter
hey at least I didn't make a setup where town can just follow the gunsmith/watcher/other informative roles and just win
mafia commuter seems unexpected but it ensures town has to think a lot more about what they're doing instead of just going "hey xxx has xxx role so he can't be mafia", we saw it with the possibility of a mafia dayvig
the same thing happened in another game I hosted, people just assumed there couldn't be a mafia bus driver, then there was, so I'd guess some savvy enough people could possibly figure it out. also wiki says "almost all" meaning not always, and a commuter that can commute every night seems a bit suspicious already 0.0
I didn't design the setup for town to just rush in, and it's exactly what they did
glad it was enjoyable enough though
mafia commuter seems unexpected but it ensures town has to think a lot more about what they're doing instead of just going "hey xxx has xxx role so he can't be mafia", we saw it with the possibility of a mafia dayvig
the same thing happened in another game I hosted, people just assumed there couldn't be a mafia bus driver, then there was, so I'd guess some savvy enough people could possibly figure it out. also wiki says "almost all" meaning not always, and a commuter that can commute every night seems a bit suspicious already 0.0
I didn't design the setup for town to just rush in, and it's exactly what they did
glad it was enjoyable enough though
It's not suspicious. As mafia, it's unbalanced all the way up to LyLo since you can keep dodging and get other people to do the kills for you and even then you saw how it could be misleading.
I still blame mod. =_=
I still blame mod. =_=
Topic Starter
then town just has to scumhunt and lynch mafia the old-fashioned way. kind of misleading with all the PRs in the game but that's how I intended it to happen :>
feel free to blame me btw, I'm happy to learn from anything I did wrong :3
kind of misleading with all the PRs in the game but that's how I intended it to happen :>feel free to blame me btw, I'm happy to learn from anything I did wrong :3
Well really losing all the powerful PR in the first day/night wasn't really helpful too.
oh wait nevermind, kitsunemimi protected me (farto) instead >_<
mafia bus driver so OP.
mafia bus driver so OP.
kthxbye
farto too op
I don't even know what happened to suspicion on Dake ._. It's like it just vapourized by D4.
Also I'm actually really surprised that pretty much nobody suspected me for scum even after I did my (rather) silly PGO claim at the beginning of D2 D: Considering the roles we had by the end (PGO, Inventor, dayvig, investigative JOAT, Commuter) everyone was almost equally townish in terms of role/alignment association (except for Lilac). I was sort of expecting to be subject to policy lynch at some point around then... o:
Also I'm actually really surprised that pretty much nobody suspected me for scum even after I did my (rather) silly PGO claim at the beginning of D2 D: Considering the roles we had by the end (PGO, Inventor, dayvig, investigative JOAT, Commuter) everyone was almost equally townish in terms of role/alignment association (except for Lilac). I was sort of expecting to be subject to policy lynch at some point around then... o:
Rantai wrote:
*table flip*