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Shoji Meguro - Aria of the Soul

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Starrodkirby86
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, September 07, 2009 at 3:41:48 PM

Artist: Shoji Meguro
Title: Aria of the Soul
Source: Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Tags: atlus velvet room poem for everyone's souls
BPM: 91.96
Filesize: 4897kb
Play Time: 02:41
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0.62 stars, 92 notes)
  2. Hard (4.46 stars, 214 notes)
  3. Insane (4.81 stars, 301 notes)
  4. Normal (1.89 stars, 136 notes)
Download: Shoji Meguro - Aria of the Soul
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Welcome to the Velvet Room.

This song is one of Shoji Meguro's first pieces, and it's been refined to perfection as the Persona games went on. I think it's very beautiful and nice. It's also Jump city, so don't be too nazi on those jumperoonies. :)

Now...There's two problems with this map that I know of. In Persona 3, it was called "Poem for Everyone's Soul" or something similar to that. In Persona 4, it was renamed to Aria of the Soul, at least according to the soundtrack that came with the game. Which name should I use? I put Poem for Everyone's Soul in the Tags anyway for safety.

Next...there may be timing problems, like a bad BPM or something.

Enjoy! Any constructive criticism is appreciated. Feedback is appreciated too, haha.

1: eee changes, particularly on (ee)Easy. Made minor changes around side. Thanks! :)
2: Takuma changes...just the spacing stuff though...
3: brainfree[z] changes. Makes it more of a challenge. Also changed some patterns because I thought the old one was stupid. .mp3 cut in half.
4: Pattern change. Hitsound changes. Thanks brainfree[z] for help.
5: Combobursts added. Let me know what you think. Pattern change. Finding custom soundsets. Will edit more skin related elements soon! Thanks Sinistro (haha).
6: Gens changes. Custom soundsets. Might add more things soon.
7: minyeob changes. :)
8: Animask changes. Bah, who cares about boredom.
9: Mafiamaster changes~
10: El Larto changes. :o Thanks guys.
11: PandaCath changes...And a few other things.
12: I changed the BPM around the end...See if it's on time...Can someone point to me if it's so? In addition, thank you very much Zatoichi. :)
13: Derek changes. I'll update the hanging combo-bursts later.
14: SFG changes. Also fixed hanging combobursts. I have no clue what to do with the slowdown. :S
15: Many changes. :3 Thank you people.
16: Mogs changes. Will do slidersounds ASAP. Thank you sir.
17: Hitsounds. Full redownload if you haven't.
18: Changed inherited timing sections from Larto. Just upping it here for backup.
19: Changed timing to CW's. Thanks.
20: tieff part 1. >w<
21: tieff part 2. :O Thanks a lot.
eee
eeemod, GO!!!

[Easy]

01:33:96 (1,2,3) - how about match the distances to be like the other ones (i.eee. 01:26:13 (2,3,4)), I think this is snapped differently and doesn't look right.
01:56:78 (1,2,3) - ^ apparently, this is snapped differently???,this is just a suggestion though
02:40:80 (5) - new combo this, seems like it would be further?

[Normal]

02:40:80 (5) - same as Easy?

[Hard]
02:40:82 (1) - . . . . . . you did it here :D
yeah, nothin' wrong imo

[Insane]
cool patterns

just as I said, *star :D
Takuma
Interesting song and map.

All:
  1. The switch to normal hitsounds at the end sound odd imho. Have someone else comment on this.
  2. Maybe you could cut the song?
Easy:
  1. 00:40:809 - Delete break, then press insert break time. The break should extend.
  2. 01:35:592 - Same problem, except it should shorten.
Normal:
  1. 00:40:809 - Fix the break.
  2. 01:35:614 - ^
Hard:
  1. 01:23:20 (4) - Stack with fading (2) slider end?
  2. 01:24:83 (3) - Tooo close to (2). I made exceptions throughout the map but I thought this was a little "too" close.
Insane:
  1. 01:46:35 (2) - Yuck, fix this to be in line with the previous slider.
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86

Takuma wrote:

Interesting song and map.

All:
  1. The switch to normal hitsounds at the end sound odd imho. Have someone else comment on this.
  2. Maybe you could cut the song?
Easy:
  1. 00:40:809 - Delete break, then press insert break time. The break should extend.
  2. 01:35:592 - Same problem, except it should shorten.
Normal:
  1. 00:40:809 - Fix the break.
  2. 01:35:614 - ^
The switch...About that, I can't emphasize really on how to do the end. I had Soft already on Max Volume, and I wanted it to go to the next level with that pretty radical ending...That's why I had to switch to the next sound-set, Normal...if it's really unfitting, I may have to find something else to settle for.

I'll cut the song when it turns to be a major complaint.

About those breaks...It was intended to have it that way. I don't know if that'll prevent any ranking whatsoever. Can I get a BAT's opinion on that?

And now for matters of timing...if you played this and are a pretty darn good player, tell me how you think the timing is. I played the song and I got a good number of 100s...which might have been a problem. (I ended [Insane] with a 95% though)

Thanks for modding, eee and Takuma. ^^
brainfree[z]
Woooo~ you submitted it! :)
First of all, a well deserved star. I love this map.

[Insane]
Dammit this difficulty is really fun. The jumps are awesome. [My best is 85% D:]
One minor thing though:
There is a pair of hit circles (the first at 2:36:489 is a number 2) which I think should be swapped vertically. The previous combo goes up-down-up and I'm always surprised by the following one going down first.
Anywho, it should be fine as is. :P

I also think you should consider cutting the song. Keyword here being consider since I also think this is unimportant. o.O

Hope this gets ranked. :D
Gens
Okay, did some chatting/modding on IRC...
Possible Offset problem? O.o

Anyways here's a star. :D

I like relaxing beatmaps
minyeob
[Easy]
1:09:831(1)-> 1/4 beat backward. (I'm not sure :( )
1:58:744(1,2,3,4)-> 1 grid right. Jump is not good on easy(Imo)

[Normal]
1:09:831(1)-> Same as easy.
After 2:41:788(1)-> Ending is different from others. (Singer don't say "blablabla" after this spinner in this difficulty.)

[Hard]
1:33:635(2)-> Change the location like this.


1:48:962(2)-> We have to make a nice shape(1,2,3,4). 1 level 1 gird down
1:58:744(1)~2:14:070(4)-> Boring?!?!

[Insane]
Looks fine.

And...... minyeob star


Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
1:09:831(1)-> 1/4 beat backward. (I'm not sure :( )
1/8 actually felt better to me...Which isn't good...

1:58:744(1)~2:14:070(4)-> Boring?!?!
It was to emphasize the fact the Distance Snap is getting farther and farther apart. :S So I'm keeping it, sorry.

And...... minyeob star
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Awww <3
Sleep Powder
[Easy]
00:31:35 (2) - No overlapping sliders please
00:36:57 (2) - Don't touch (1) little slider don't do it
01:09:83 (1,2) - White ticks sounds better there

[Insane]
00:37:22 (8) - Don't overlap sliders like this
02:40:48 (?,?) - 1/4 divisor White and red tick...circles?

Too bored to mod the other ones
HarryOrunitia
Starred :D
Celestral
I can't mod, but I like this map! Star'd :3
Mafiamaster
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Larto
Offset: 30.018

Insane:
00:31:02 (5) - Repeat hard to see
00:36:24 (7) - ^


I liked this map. Good stuff.
Zerostarry
The timing is kinda iffy..might want to double check.

Clean up some of the slider patterns on easy! Other than that, i dont have any other problems with this.

Starred.
tieff
Starred.
PandaCath
[Easy]
Around 00:39 Break, delete the break, then readd. It should fix when the break comes.
02:07:191 (2) Suggested move down just a tad.
02:09:800 (2) Same thing, but move up.

[Normal]
Again with the break at 39.

[Hard]
01:29:697 (1) (2) I have issues with where this is. Possibly move off to the side, unless you intended it to be a trick.
02:35:235 (1) - (8) Don't like the overlaps in this either.

[Insane]
Nothing to say about it.

I be starring this.
Zatoichi
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Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
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Zatoichi
02:37:51 (1,2,3,4 (5,6,7,8)) - This is a period of the song in which it slows down. You put them on 1/2 (or 1/4 I don't remember) and stuck to that. It doesn't sound right. At all. But I can understand why you'd do this since BPM slowdown is hard to time.
Takuma
I see some unsnapped notes. Resnap then check over.
Zatoichi
I went over the map again. Found no problems.
Inferior_old
song is so beautiful & your map is so cool.
i like it! :)

+star
Derekku
[Easy]
00:40:77 - I dunno this break seems kinda unnecessary. Perhaps map some notes here?
01:35:56 - I would remove this small break, it also feels pointless.

[Normal]
Same thing with breaks. I mean you have a long intro, then 10 seconds of play time, then an almost 20 second break. :/

[Hard]
Same thing with breaks...

01:12:08 (1) - Why is this so far away from the last slider?
01:24:14 (2) - Move closer to (1).

I know that you have the distance spacing a lot larger at the end, but at least keep the spacing consistent at the beginning. :)

[Insane]
Blah blah breaks.

Distance spacing is a little wacky, but it's because of all of the jumps, I suppose. :T


That's all that really STUCK OUT to me. It's a beautiful song and deserves another star~

EDIT: I forgot to mention how lovely the custom hit sounds are~ <3
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86

Derekku Chan wrote:

[Easy]
00:40:77 - I dunno this break seems kinda unnecessary. Perhaps map some notes here? The song acts so calm there, so it didn't feel like any nice opportunity to map. I originally started this off with a [Hard], so mapping somewhere might have made it too easy.
01:35:56 - I would remove this small break, it also feels pointless. The whole letter-box thing is awesome though. T_T Unless there's a big objection, it stays.

[Normal]
Same thing with breaks. I mean you have a long intro, then 10 seconds of play time, then an almost 20 second break. :/

[Hard]
Same thing with breaks...

01:12:08 (1) - Why is this so far away from the last slider? Look at where the note is. It's for design reasons. In other words, it's like a jump.
01:24:14 (2) - Move closer to (1). Done.

I know that you have the distance spacing a lot larger at the end, but at least keep the spacing consistent at the beginning. :) :T

[Insane]
Blah blah breaks.

Distance spacing is a little wacky, but it's because of all of the jumps, I suppose. :T Rape :U


That's all that really STUCK OUT to me. It's a beautiful song and deserves another star~

EDIT: I forgot to mention how lovely the custom hit sounds are~ <3 Love you <3
Derekku
Like seriously. Beautiful song. Lovely hit sounds. etc etc etc

Fuck points. :3
Yuukari-Banteki
[Easy]
00:39:14 (1) - delete and replace break
01:56:75 (1) - kinda hidden
kiai time is bad
02:37:86 (1,2,3,4,1) - generally unless you want to time every note these notes are going to be timed WAY OFF in a slowdown


[Normal]
00:39:14 (1) - fix break
01:09:88 (1,2) - incorrectly snapped
kiai is wrong
02:37:86 (1,2,3,4,1) - slowdown


[Hard]
00:40:45 (5) - fix break
01:19:58 (1,2) - finish the third hit of each
01:41:75 (2) - finish
all of your breaks are off btw
01:48:93 (2,3) - stack endpoints
02:37:86 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - slowdown
kiai bad


[Insane]
breaks are off
02:37:51 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - slowdown


fix and call me back plz
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
Double post intentional?

I did everything except the slowdown part...Which I really have no clue what to do at the moment. :|
tieff
Delete countdown? Becouse it doesn't fit the song.
And I unsure about timing... It look right, but... Huh, nevermind, it's only me.

[Easy]
01:07:84 (1) - Hmm... Not sure about this, but... This note shound be here 01:07:924 (Yellow tick?)
01:08:49 (2) - Should be here, I think. 01:08:57.
01:09:14 (3) - 01:09:22?
01:09:79 (1) - Vocal start here 01:09:88. I think.
01:11:10 (2) - 01:11:18.

[Normal]
01:07:92 (1,2,3,1,2) - Same as normal.
02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Maybe a bit cofusing for normal, but I'm ok with it.

[Hard]
01:03:76 (x) - Add a note?
01:46:81 (x) - ^
01:47:78 (x) - ^

[Insane]
All cool.

Alredy starred. =( But I give you kudosu star.
[DBF]
Star for you. <3
Film11
Brilliant, brilliant maps. I love them all, especially Insane difficulty, the hitsounds really make it!

(All)
The first break is a bit long here. Perhaps add some beats in a bit before it ends?

Normal
02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - agree with tieff, it's a bit harsh with the previous combo covering it up. Though I'm guessing it would only throw players the first few times before they learnt it.

SUPER STAR!
Senbon
Goodness... how many hours spent in that room across five games... I haven't heard this song in a while and just remembered how beautiful it is.. when you're not in there. ^w^

[Normal]

01:12:40 (1) - should you repeat this 2 more times? o.o
02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - another agreement!



:D

I like everything else.
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
Woo, Decarabia. Lovely.

I would've used the Star Arcanum card, but whatever~

I'll make these edits sometime soon after I finish modding other maps. I'll edit this post in accordance and give the proper kudosu.
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
>tieff
[Easy]
01:07:84 (1) - Hmm... Not sure about this, but... This note shound be here 01:07:924 (Yellow tick?)
01:08:49 (2) - Should be here, I think. 01:08:57.
01:09:14 (3) - 01:09:22?
01:09:79 (1) - Vocal start here 01:09:88. I think.
01:11:10 (2) - 01:11:18.

I had it like that before, but I was prompted to change it, if I recall correctly. I'm keeping it like this for safety. :< It /might/ be timing?

[Normal]
01:07:92 (1,2,3,1,2) - Same as normal.
02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Maybe a bit cofusing for normal, but I'm ok with it.
^Changed

[Hard]
01:03:76 (x) - Add a note?
^Only did this one.

01:46:81 (x) - ^
01:47:78 (x) - ^

[Insane]
All cool.

<3 you.

>Film11

Brilliant, brilliant maps. I love them all, especially Insane difficulty, the hitsounds really make it!

(All)
The first break is a bit long here. Perhaps add some beats in a bit before it ends?

Eh, it still doesn't look a like a good place to put beats. I'm keeping as is unless it's a truly...evil thing. p:


Normal
02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - agree with tieff, it's a bit harsh with the previous combo covering it up. Though I'm guessing it would only throw players the first few times before they learnt it.

Changed from tieff, thanks.

SUPER STAR!

0.0

>Senbon

Goodness... how many hours spent in that room across five games... I haven't heard this song in a while and just remembered how beautiful it is.. when you're not in there. ^w^

[Normal]

01:12:40 (1) - should you repeat this 2 more times? o.o

^Did my own twist, thank you.

02:11:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - another agreement!

^tieff change.

Image

fffffffffffffff-----

:D

I like everything else.

<3


Thank you so much guys. Still need to get the slowdown timing perfect.
WyndII
I like your maps =3.
Awesome and <3 Symmetry.
Yes_old
^^" NICE map! This song is very awesome! Starrrr.
Mogsy
Easy:
-Have you ever noticed the little grace-note-like sound on the sliders? That's the only thing I hate. It sounds like bleh. To be specific, it sounds much too disconnected and when the grace-note-like sound comes in, it makes something connected feel separated. Otherwise it's fine.
-02:39:98 (4) - 1/4 later? I dunno. It IS easy, but being 1/4 later would sync it.

Normal:
-The slider-sound comment still stands.
*-01:46:97 (1,2) - I feel like the hitsounds should be Clap, Finish, but I dunno, see if you like that.
-01:53:49 (1) - This is much too soft. I'd probably put a Whistle on it if I were you.
-02:15:99 (3) - Add a Clap.
-02:18:60 (3) - ^
-02:39:98 (4) - Make this 1/4 later.

Hard:
-Slider sound comment still stands.
-01:03:60 (2) - New Combo mark goes here.
*-01:06:86 (8,9,10) - This section sounds particularly empty, but eh.
-02:39:98 (8) - 1/4 later.

Insane:
-Slider sound comment still stands.
*-01:13:387 - See what you think about a beat right here.
*-01:13:713 - ^
-01:58:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You are aware of the fact that you need a New Combo mark for grid distance changes within the same combo if the timeline distance is still the same, right?
-02:03:93 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^
*-02:06:21 (8) - Besides, right here, you should start a new phrase, since that's where it starts, musically. If the other rule wasn't intact, that's where it'd go. Then you'd remove the next 1.
-02:15:67 (5) - New Combo mark goes here.
-02:18:27 (5) - ^
-02:19:58 (1,2,3,4) - All of these need a New Combo mark.
-02:24:80 (1,2,3,4) - ^
-02:28:71 (5) - New Combo mark goes here.
-02:39:98 (8) - 1/4 later.

Other than these small things, I love this map. Not just because I like Persona music, but because it's fun. hey SRK we should collab on Persona music sometime Hey, look, you have another BAT star. Fix and I'll bubble.
orioncomet
!star~
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86

Mogsworth wrote:

Easy:
-Have you ever noticed the little grace-note-like sound on the sliders? That's the only thing I hate. It sounds like bleh. To be specific, it sounds much too disconnected and when the grace-note-like sound comes in, it makes something connected feel separated. Otherwise it's fine. I'll change it later. I knew the slider sound sounded odd, but I was waiting for someone to point that out. ;) It's just a wahwah effect, so it kind of fails.
-02:39:98 (4) - 1/4 later? I dunno. It IS easy, but being 1/4 later would sync it. Done. Easy players shouldn't follow the way the beats are formatted yet and more on the rings to the exact spot. At least that's what EBA taught me.

Normal:
-The slider-sound comment still stands.
*-01:46:97 (1,2) - I feel like the hitsounds should be Clap, Finish, but I dunno, see if you like that. Got a good idea about that. Thank you.
-01:53:49 (1) - This is much too soft. I'd probably put a Whistle on it if I were you. You're totally right. Changes made.
-02:15:99 (3) - Add a Clap. You're da moogle~
-02:18:60 (3) - ^ =w= Yep yep
-02:39:98 (4) - Make this 1/4 later. Aye aye captain~

Hard:
-Slider sound comment still stands.
-01:03:60 (2) - New Combo mark goes here. E:
*-01:06:86 (8,9,10) - This section sounds particularly empty, but eh. I concur. Changes made.
-02:39:98 (8) - 1/4 later. As always.

Insane:
-Slider sound comment still stands.
*-01:13:387 - See what you think about a beat right here. Did what I can.
*-01:13:713 - ^ Oink. :B
-01:58:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You are aware of the fact that you need a New Combo mark for grid distance changes within the same combo if the timeline distance is still the same, right? This is an old map. Before I wasn't aware, but now I am. Let's just get this overwith, shall we? ;)
-02:03:93 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^
*-02:06:21 (8) - Besides, right here, you should start a new phrase, since that's where it starts, musically. If the other rule wasn't intact, that's where it'd go. Then you'd remove the next 1. o3o
-02:15:67 (5) - New Combo mark goes here. Dear god, so much has changed since I first mapped this. I would've totally new combo'd this now. >_>
-02:18:27 (5) - ^ Pika pika.
-02:19:58 (1,2,3,4) - All of these need a New Combo mark.
-02:24:80 (1,2,3,4) - ^ Tag play! Now fun for the whole family!
-02:28:71 (5) - New Combo mark goes here. I had more of an instinct that it should be rather on (6).
-02:39:98 (8) - 1/4 later. x-x

Other than these small things, I love this map. Not just because I like Persona music, but because it's fun. hey SRK we should collab on Persona music sometime Haha, just contact me and we can do some awesome P4 tracks ;D Hey, look, you have another BAT star. Fix and I'll bubble.
Mogsy
woo. Will bubble once you fix the slider thing. c: Also LEMME CONTACT YOU ABOUT P4 STUFF VERY SOON

also I'm a furret
gdeath
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Mogsy
That sounds soooo much better. Take a trip to Bubbleland.
tieff
Bubbleland, lol. x)
Yay, it's bubbled!
Larto
Overall:
I'd place the last inherited section on every difficulty exactly on the spinner's end. It's weird how in-game the spinner-spin.wav suddenly gets louder short before the end.

Insane:
02:40:16 (8) - It's reaaally mean that this note is spaced equally to all the others in that combo.

Hard:
Same as Insane.

Normal:
Same as Hard and Insane.

Easy:
Same as Normal and Hard and Insane.

Also, the timing is weird. I don't think the current timing is right, but I really can't do better than
BPM: 91.975
Offset: 30,042
CheeseWarlock
The timing here isn't technically correct, but it plays pretty damn well. Should I nazi it? +5 ms to all offsets and Larto's BPM 91.965 if not.
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86

CheeseWarlock wrote:

The timing here isn't technically correct, but it plays pretty damn well. Should I nazi it? +5 ms to all offsets and Larto's BPM 91.965 if not.
Would using this particular Nazi timing be more correct than the other one, or would having both be all right?

Regardless, I'll probably check out that timing as well.
DeathxShinigami
Random star.
Film11
How could this map get graveyarded :(
Take decisive action Starrod!
Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
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tieff
Add another offset here 139 612ms

[Easy]
01:48:33 (1) - Too long and repeating slider?

Need serious timing check. Give me some time, I'll create test diff for timing.
tieff
Ok, let's go.

Add another red line here 107 000 (For this notes 01:46:99 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7))

Next red line here 110 930

And here 118 793
Diasios
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tieff
Timing fine for me. Bubbled.
Mafiamaster
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Topic Starter
Starrodkirby86
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Mogsy
After looking over the timing, I feel like this is rankable now.
Derekku
Awww... this was one of the first songs I ever modded x3

Glad to see it ranked :3 (grats kirby ilu)
sesito71
beautiful map!! ^_^

good job kirby :D
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