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Finally a ranked senpai song
Tanoshii

Ryuusei Aika wrote:

Finally a ranked senpai song
Tanoshii

There's a Senpai song ranked before mine made by 0109- lol

i prefer this

is it just me or the slow parts are super spaced for no apparent reason in Umi's diff?

Umi:
- 00:02:472 (2,3) - vs 00:23:216 (4,1) - are rather similar, although different sections of the song. I mean, I should probably link the whole parts to show this but just a jump might be less cramped to read. It's just that spacing overall changes slightly (if not at all) from section to section and in important parts too
- 00:49:513 (3,4) - vs 00:43:772 (3,4,5) - again, different sections of the song which are clearly different, yet spacing barely changes
- 01:00:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - same ^ just that this time it's the same section yet the second combo shows jumps twice or 3 times as big as the spacing of the first combo
- kiai times seem to be more spaced, as they should...
- 01:51:179 - considering this is the calmest section of all, rhythm is still a rather constant 1/2 , with even filler rhythms like 01:56:735 (4,5) - . To match the song's pace it would have been better to use more and longer sliders, otherwise this part is identical to everything else outside kiai times (triplets excluded)
- 02:26:735 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - again, seeing this spacing and all after the previous part feels really off for the same reasons as above ^

Amine

Sweet jesus

[litoluna's Insane]
In first place, why is the first part mapped with a such exaggerated spacing? It should be calm and you make random jumps...
00:01:546 (3) - Either silence the slider end or use a 1/1 slider, that instrumental note is unnoticeable with the hitsounds.
00:05:620 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - There's no sound in the song to support this, it's just a random jump using the vocal as an excuse (which isn't strong at all). You also melted instrumental and vocal together without mapping something to differentiate the sounds. It just doesn't make sense
00:07:287 (2,3,4,5) - Same as above
00:10:250 (3,4,5,6) - Same thing, again. There's no sound to support this big spacing.
00:11:546 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Here's where that spacing fits. The worst thing is that you used the same spacing for two completely different sounds
00:13:772 (2,3) - Too small spacing between these two objects, use at least the spacing that there is for 00:13:402 (1,2) -
00:21:550 (7,8) - What's the point of using kicksliders now if you didn't before with almost equal sounds? If you wanna keep it at least silence the sliderends
00:29:142 (4,1) - What's this minimum spacing again? Augment it
00:30:253 (2,3) - A kickslider would fit much better this sound
00:31:179 (1) - Better the slidershape http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8935332
00:32:661 (4) - NC
00:36:550 (2,3,4,5,6) - Two different sounds, either use a kickslider in one of them or use a different spacing for the triplet to differentiate the sounds.
00:37:105 (1) - Silence the sliderend
00:39:698 (3) - ^
00:41:364 (6) - You always prioritized the vocal more than the instrumental, so you should put the slider here instead of in 00:41:550 (1) -
00:42:198 - There's a beat that you ignored.
00:42:661 (6) - Silence the sliderend
00:44:513 (4) - NC
00:45:253 (6) - There are two clear beats here, put a double: the slider doesn't fit the sound.
00:45:624 (7) - Silence the sliderend
00:47:846 (2,3,4) - The sound isn't yet strong enough to use such a big spacing
00:48:587 (7) - The hitsound on the sliderend is useless, the beat is almost absent, either change it or use a low volume
00:49:327 (2,3,4) - Minimum spacing again... Augment it
00:51:550 (3) - Why are you making this end on the new section? Make a 5 tick slider and put a slider on the white tick http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8935392
00:53:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Differentiate the sounds the way I said before
00:55:624 (5) - Two clear beats; use two circles since the slider doesn't fit the sound
00:57:476 (6) - Same thing as before. This way of mapping it doesn't really fit
01:03:031 (1,2) - There's no sound supporting two circles, unlike the thing mentioned above
01:03:772 (1) - This is a really bad slidershape, try to make something decent...
01:05:068 (1) - Make a 5 tick slider and put a circle, to fully follow the guitar and the drum
01:08:031 (1) - This is still part of the previous section, remove the NC and put it in 01:08:216 (2) -
01:10:624 (1) - Remove NC, it doesn't make sense
01:13:957 (1,2) - This double doesn't fit the sound at all, you should keep using the sliders for the whole section
01:15:994 (3) - Where's the sound to support this? Seeing this stuff makes me really angry...Somebody told me some time ago that the song isn't made for the patterns, the patterns are made for the song o
01:21:179 (10) - The hitsound on the sliderend doesn't fit, same reason of before
01:23:587 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Just why...? There's no special sound or anything supporting this
01:24:513 (2) - The nc should go here
01:25:439 (1) - It's still part of the previous section, remove the nc and put it in 01:25:809 (3) -, keep doing it for the following patterns
01:38:401 (1,2,3,4,5) - The sound changes between the red tick and the white one, add some spacing after the white one to differentiate the sounds
01:38:772 (5,6,7,8) - And as for 01:15:994 (3) -, where's the special sound to support this?
02:00:994 (2,3,4,1) - The sound is still low for that spacing.
02:03:031 (1) - Silence the sliderend
02:04:142 (3) - This should go on the blue tick
02:06:364 (4,5,6,7,8) - There's no sound that can be supported using spacing in (4) and (5), make a stacked tripled and then add spacing for (6) and (7)
02:06:735 (8) - Silence the sliderend if you really wanna keep the kickslider
02:08:587 (3) - There's a strong sound on the red tick, don't keep a 1/1 slider
02:11:920 (3) - NC
02:14:883 (3) - I can clearly hear a beat on the red tick
02:17:661 (1,1) - One is an overmap, the other one is a guitar sound; why are you mapping them with the same pattern?
02:22:846 (3) - Guitar beat that you ignored...
02:23:772 (1) - Use two circles, there's the same sound of 02:24:327 (1,2,3) - here
02:24:883 (4) - NC
02:25:253 (7) - NC
02:35:253 (4) - Silence the sliderend
02:35:624 (1) - 2 circles
02:36:920 (1) - Same guitar and drum thing I mentioned before
02:40:994 (1,2,3) - What's the point of mapping this vocal part like this, nonsense stack and then kicksliders...
02:42:290 (5,6,7) - Chill with these pp jumps heyo
02:43:587 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Where's the sound to support 2 overmapped triplets? ._.
02:44:327 (1) - Silence the sliderend
02:50:439 (4) - NC
02:52:846 (4,5,6,7,8) - I can't hear any sound that supports a such big spacing
03:12:661 (5) - NC
03:13:401 (9) - An important vocal part starts on the red tick, try to rearrange the pattern and have a circle on that tick
03:14:142 (4) - NC
03:39:327 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 03:39:327 (1,2,3,4) - needs a small spacing, the sound is low 03:40:068 (1,2,3,4) - needs a large spacing, it's a strong sound, why are you again using the same spacing for two different sounds?

@Marcuddles, even if you don't like the map, try to be respectful towards the mapper.

Indeed Marcuddles, as Pachiru mentioned you should follow the Code of Conduct for modding and mapping. I can understand that you might be on disagreement with a map in the qualified state (and the only reason why qualified status exists is for the community to notice issues for a week before it gets ranked) but you have to express yourself in a proper way and give some reasoning other than just "it should be like this instead".

Watch the language and please give the Code of Conduct a read if you havent before. Take this as a warning!

Sorry, these things make me really angry (especially when we talk about my favourite singer's songs ;w;) and I become kind of crazy
Again, sorry, I don't really mean to insult

Marcuddles wrote:

Sorry, these things make me really angry (especially when we talk about my favourite singer's songs ;w;) and I become kind of crazy
Again, sorry, I don't really mean to insult

All cool, just try to control yourself a bit better the next time

If you want, you could edit your post a bit as an apology!

Will try to contact both mappers to reply your mods, can't really get into their mapping thoughts enough to answer your mods xd

juankristal wrote:

Marcuddles wrote:

Sorry, these things make me really angry (especially when we talk about my favourite singer's songs ;w;) and I become kind of crazy
Again, sorry, I don't really mean to insult

All cool, just try to control yourself a bit better the next time

If you want, you could edit your post a bit as an apology!

Yeah, tried

@Marcuddles
Is this the necessary modding after Qualified?
I did not think that it was a really necessary modding after Qualified.
Also, your modding seems to be "compulsion of your own mappingstyle", so I do not feel like correcting it.
mapping≠modding
sorry.

Yes, it's necessary because this map isn't ready for ranking
And it's not a "compulsion of my mapping style": okay, some points may be too much oriented to it (and it's really a small part...), but the rest is an objective thing. You emphasized uselessly a lot of stuff and you didn't do it when it was necessary

I'd really like you to read my mod and understand what I said i I my mod
In any case, you should answer to my mod and explain why my points are wrong to you.

Marcuddles wrote:

Yes, it's necessary because this map isn't ready for ranking
And it's not a "compulsion of my mapping style": okay, some points may be too much oriented to it (and it's really a small part...), but the rest is an objective thing. You emphasized uselessly a lot of stuff and you didn't do it when it was necessary

I'd really like you to read my mod and understand what I said i I my mod
In any case, you should answer to my mod and explain why my points are wrong to you.

Well, saying things like "this should be like this" "this should be like that" without any explaining why doesn't help lol

I explained everything when it was necessary, if you didn't understand something ask me and I'll be happy to explain better

Marcuddle's mod isn't the only one here.

Sergio brought up some valid points which I am inclined to agree with. Modding after Qualified is just the system doing its job - since that's what Qualified is for.

Replying to Sergio's mod with reasoning supported by the song would be the optimal way to go here, and even though Marcuddle's mod was largely subjective that doesn't mean it was wrong. You are essentially encouraged to reply to all mods regardless of how inflammatory/subjective they are.

On the topic of spacing, Umi's diff seems to be quite lacking in contrast between slow sections and other sections not only because of the spacing but because of the filler rhythm used that Sergio pointed out. Spacing like 01:58:216 (5,1) - which is comparable to 01:28:587 (8,1) - and more filler for 01:59:698 (4,5) - etc etc etc.

I would like to also hear your reasoning to this as well, diverting the topic to Marcuddles' mod while ignoring Sergio's isn't really the best thing to do right now.

I'm trying to contact Umi atm so he can answer to Sergio's mod, if he doesn't reply, I'd like to DQ the map so I can fix the problems

dq for sorting out mods

Hope this gets sorted out

Will be waiting for rank!

Another thing: 0109-'s set has a higher quality BG, consider to use that one :v

fixed Umi's diff and changed the background

Umi's Insane
- 00:02:657 (3) - Moving this to about (125, 307) would make this slightly neater so that 4-3-5 has even distance.
- 00:49:698 (4) - Flipping this is one way to improve the relative spacing, but I still feel this note is significant enough to be emphasised in some way, instead of having the spacing drop. This note is also very similar to 00:50:253 (1) which I believe making these sliders similar in direction was Umi's original goal. My suggestion would either be to increase 3-4 spacing (move to (320, 302) or similar), or leaving it how it was before is fine in my opinion.
- 01:02:105 (1,2) - This spacing is inconsistent with the rest of the combo so I'd move 1 around a bit more.

litoluna's Insane
I'll check this again more thoroughly after Marcuddles' mod gets replied to, but some other stuff that he didn't mention that could be considered excessive spacing:
- 01:26:920 (1,2)
- 01:28:401 (4,5)
- 03:01:735 (4,5)
- 03:03:216 (3,4)

Call me back when you're ready with this again.

-Mo- wrote:

Umi's Insane
- 00:02:657 (3) - Moving this to about (125, 307) would make this slightly neater so that 4-3-5 has even distance.
- 00:49:698 (4) - Flipping this is one way to improve the relative spacing, but I still feel this note is significant enough to be emphasised in some way, instead of having the spacing drop. This note is also very similar to 00:50:253 (1) which I believe making these sliders similar in direction was Umi's original goal. My suggestion would either be to increase 3-4 spacing (move to (320, 302) or similar), or leaving it how it was before is fine in my opinion.
- 01:02:105 (1,2) - This spacing is inconsistent with the rest of the combo so I'd move 1 around a bit more.

Fixed, will try to get litoluna's reply for the mods, if he/she doesn't reply, I'll fix them myself

@Marcuddles
fixed

1. Silence the sliderend.(ignore:02:03:031 (1) - )
2. NC mod.(ignore:01:10:624 - ,02:25:253 - )
3. some big spacing.
4. changed circles 00:45:253 -

@-Mo-
fixed all.
If it seems too much will be fixed again.

Thank you both.

http://puu.sh/xls87.zip

Updated !

Kyuukai wrote:

fixed Umi's diff and changed the background

Exactly... what?
Nothing major seems to have happened on the diff tbh. Yes, I saw a couple of things changed )probably due to Mo's mod too) but the big concerns are still there: different parts of the song are expressed the same way spacing-wise and rhythmically

MrSergio wrote:

Kyuukai wrote:

fixed Umi's diff and changed the background

Exactly... what?
Nothing major seems to have happened on the diff tbh. Yes, I saw a couple of things changed )probably due to Mo's mod too) but the big concerns are still there: different parts of the song are expressed the same way spacing-wise and rhythmically

I fixed the things you've linked to me lol, whatever, I've lowered the spacing alot now

as I said in the mod, I should have linked whole parts but linking a few jumps made the post less clustered.
I was referring to the whole sections, not just those jumps lol.

I can clearly specify when and where a section ends/starts if you want...

fixed the slow parts spacing

@Marcuddles @MrSergio
Are you both okay with the changes ? If you're not, can you explain what's wrong
Thank you

I'm not okay with the only few things that litoluna fixed and I came to the conclusion that the problem is mainly his mapping style, that ignores a lot of sounds in the song and doesn't add emphasis in the right moment (and vice versa, adds emphasis in the wrong moment)
It's probably useless explaining again what I said in the mod, I don't think he would fix

Anyways, I think Sergio and I are missing a kudosu :v

Marcuddles wrote:

I'm not okay with the only few things that litoluna fixed and I came to the conclusion that the problem is mainly his mapping style, that ignores a lot of sounds in the song and doesn't add emphasis in the right moment (and vice versa, adds emphasis in the wrong moment)
It's probably useless explaining again what I said in the mod, I don't think he would fix

Anyways, I think Sergio and I are missing a kudosu :v

Forgot about that, sorry !
Gave a kudo to both of you

umh... let me first give you a tiny mod on the diffs that weren't mentioned in the modding process post-DQ

The following is minor stuff (aside from bold stuff):

Advanced:

1. 00:18:772 (7) - stacked under 6 feels somewhat better
2. beats like 00:28:031 (6) - 00:28:772 (2) - 00:30:994 (8) - can be deleted to add breaks in the calmer sections for better song expression (this is still an Advanced, hence a lower rhythm would be great, above all on transitions)
   The general idea is that you have not even a single break of 1/1 in this map, which is not that great for a diff which is meant as a bridge between Normal-Hard
3. 00:37:105 - going back to the same rhythm from here on is alright, but before this part you should consider deleting some in-between circles ^
4. 00:51:179 (1,2) - on the same reasoning, these could have been just circles to also give a break and add something particular to the map, which is entirely sliders (most of them being 1/2) // 00:54:142 (1,2) - I won't point similar things twice, hopefully that's not a problem for you
5. 01:03:216 (6) - this works better deleted too
6. 01:05:624 (2,3) - rhythm feels funky here. Ctrl G on their rhythm and fix placement perhaps?
7. 01:34:142 (2,3,4,5) - ye... that many clicks in a row after a calm part full of 1/1 sliders feels kinda off and too sudden. Maybe use a slider for those three beats instead. Breaking slightly DS is also an option if it becomes hard to rearrange
8. 01:38:031 (6) - also circle works better imo. As I said, the diff seems kinda intense and full of 1/2 which is kinda harsh even for an advanced imo
9. 01:51:179 - 02:00:068 - This is not minor at all: please try to use a less intense rhythm for this calm section. Right now it is too similar to any other part in the map, while we can both agree this is not the case for the song, isn't it? Try using more 1/1 sliders and breaks and avoid 1/1 slider + circle + 1/1 slider like 01:54:142 (1,2,3) - , since that's the main characteristic of your patterns outside the calm part here
10. 02:03:031 - why do I feel a kiai started from here but the timing sections don't have kiai enabled? xD
11. 02:35:624 (1) - I believe this NC can be avoided (you did this on Hard btw)
12. 03:17:846 (2,3) - this flow kinda sucks, considering you started the combo by introducing a back and forth movement (03:17:105 (1,2) - )

Hard:

1. I'm fine with 00:30:253 (6,7,8) - this triplet since it falls on an obvious guitar rhythm, but 00:30:994 (9,10,1) - feels kinda out of place in this calm section
2. again plenty of triples during 00:54:883 - 01:00:809 - although it seems a relatively calm part. If I consider frequency, I'd probably expect such redundancy of 1/4 beats in kiai time or so instead (I checked and the kiai time has almost none, so... ?.?)
3. 01:04:513 (3) - stacked on the next slider feels better to me
4. you could have increased a bit SV in kiai time tbh (and spacing with it)
5. 01:29:698 (1,2,3,4) - seeing the song calms down instead of increasing, the jump in-between seems unwarranted too here.
6. 01:37:661 (5,6,7) - triples on slider ends are kinda harsh, not to mention the song is not that intense here (I'm always referring to the fact you have no triples in the kiai time, the supposedly hardest part of the song, so it's mainly your fault here lol). What about deleting 6 and stacking 7 on next slider?
7. 01:51:179 - 02:00:068 - same issue from Advanced, but this time you could have slowed down SV, not only rhythm. Please don't be scared of exaggerating these things if they help define better the song's expression.
8. 02:12:661 (1) - you don't really need to put a NC if it is the same stuff from 02:11:920 (1) - , lol

Normal:

1. 01:00:809 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - having the same rhythm as more intense parts is again strange. Is there any way to avoid those 1/2?
2. 01:38:772 (5) - that curve can surely be better lol
3. 01:51:179 - 02:00:068 - too dense rhythm once again. This is the calmest part of the entire song, yet you guys (all of you) seem to have something against low density rhythms, LOL. If you're going to map it on par with other parts of the song than better not map it
   There are some slight guitar strokes in background, playing really seldom. Use those perhaps? (they play mainly every 8/1, that's plenty of slow stuff, right?)
4. 02:26:735 - 02:36:920 - again, this part needs less rhythm. It is on par with other parts being way (and really way) more intense in the song.
   You can notice the non-existent difference during the transition to the kiai, which is more intense: 02:36:920 - check before and after that point and notice the similar note density

Easy:

1. 00:35:439 (3,4) - they work better if fused into a slider (00:35:439 - 00:36:364 - )
2. 01:00:068 (3) - fight - oh! circle - circle
3. 01:00:809 (1,2,3) - this rhythm can be simplified more too. It's on part with other more intense parts. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9031567]Random suggestion which uses a lower rhythm
4. 01:38:772 (4) - just a circle at 01:39:327 - works way better imo, for the usual contrast between intense/calm parts
5. 01:51:179 - 02:00:068 - rhythm is again too similar to more intense parts. Consider adding more 2/1 or even 4/1 beats instead of the usual 1/1 slider spam
6. 02:28:216 - YES, this is a good choice. Since rhythm is too low here there is no need to map it at all[/url]

litoluna:

1. overall the diff seems fine, idk what Marcuddles is complaining about in specific.
   I kinda dislike your overmapped triples everywhere on the map, but we might call that "style" (hint: it is not style, and it's completely unwarranted if you ask me but whatever, it's anime)
   To mention a few of those: 01:07:290 (3,4,5) - 01:08:772 (5,6,7) - 01:09:513 (1,2,3) - 02:25:068 (2,3,4) - 02:42:105 (3,4,5) - 02:43:587 (5,6,7) - 02:55:439 (1,2,3) - 02:57:661 (1,2,3) - 03:12:476 (3,4,1) - 03:13:216 (3,4,1) -
   They are actually all. Those are just triples falling on obvious 1/2 rhythms in the song, so they feel overmapped if you follow such instrument (usually vocals. Notice how I rarely, if not at all, pointed out drum triples)
2. 00:10:065 (2,3,4,5,6) - bigger spacing here is meh imo. The real build-up starts from 00:10:991 (1) - so consider reducing spacing before this
3. 01:13:957 (1,2,3) - the stale movement on 2 is kinda meh, considering that's a strong beat. Doable?
4. 01:38:957 (6,7,8) - considering the song calms down you might consider also reducing spacing instead. Feels strange to keep doing crazy stuff when the song doesn't support it
5. 03:39:327 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - it would make sense to use bigger jumps for the second combo, since that's the most intense one between the two

Umi:

1. 00:13:402 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I mean, I didn't point this out last time, but many patterns just feel random.
   By that I mean that there would have been a lot of places these objects could have been fine like that. What I would like to see is something that tells me "if you move this object away from x;y the pattern will crumble, so DON'T DO IT", but this is not the case here, as you can see.
   A few other examples to make it clear: 00:22:290 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:56:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 01:11:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - (flow on sliders sucks here btw) 01:24:513 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:14:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 02:17:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 02:43:031 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 02:47:476 (1,2,3,4,5) - 03:31:920 (1,2,3,4,5) - 03:34:883 (1,2,3,4,5) -
   These mainly show that the map didn't try to at least look clean, even if it's just generic anime mapping. I do not expect a book of reasoning behind each single part of the map, but if I check the whole map this diff is the only one looking not clean as the others. I also believe I am not imagining things here and you can probably agree with me to a certain extent.
2. 00:26:735 (1,2,3,4) - these spacings look still big, even tho you said you fixed this issue lol
3. 00:48:957 - missing change of pace. Rhythm, spacing and SV are identical to before, so there is no contrast between sections

I personally believe Umi's diff needs an overhaul at this point, since I can't seem to improve my opinion about it. The longer I check, the worse it becomes in my eyes.
I might be biased, but some aspects are still lacking from my previous mod (again, contrast between different parts changed slightly. I noticed a change for the intro, but the rest is still bland)

Hope this helps you more than just my old mod. If something is not clear I can give more details eventually

MrSergio wrote:

Advanced:

1. 00:18:772 (7) - stacked under 6 feels somewhat better I've never put 3 stacked notes during the whole diff, I'll keep it like this for the consistancy
2. 00:51:179 (1,2) - on the same reasoning, these could have been just circles to also give a break and add something particular to the map, which is entirely sliders (most of them being 1/2) // 00:54:142 (1,2) - I won't point similar things twice, hopefully that's not a problem for you Changed some into the rhythm you suggest, but not all

Easy:

1. 00:35:439 (3,4) - they work better if fused into a slider (00:35:439 - 00:36:364 - ) Sound on 00:36:364 (4) - is really strong, wanted to make it clickable

Umi:

1. 00:13:402 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I mean, I didn't point this out last time, but many patterns just feel random.
   By that I mean that there would have been a lot of places these objects could have been fine like that. What I would like to see is something that tells me "if you move this object away from x;y the pattern will crumble, so DON'T DO IT", but this is not the case here, as you can see.
   A few other examples to make it clear: 00:22:290 (1,2,3,4,1) - 00:56:179 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 01:11:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - (flow on sliders sucks here btw) 01:24:513 (1,2,3,4,5) - 02:14:883 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 02:17:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 02:43:031 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 02:47:476 (1,2,3,4,5) - 03:31:920 (1,2,3,4,5) - 03:34:883 (1,2,3,4,5) -
   These mainly show that the map didn't try to at least look clean, even if it's just generic anime mapping. I do not expect a book of reasoning behind each single part of the map, but if I check the whole map this diff is the only one looking not clean as the others. I also believe I am not imagining things here and you can probably agree with me to a certain extent.
2. 00:26:735 (1,2,3,4) - these spacings look still big, even tho you said you fixed this issue lol
3. 00:48:957 - missing change of pace. Rhythm, spacing and SV are identical to before, so there is no contrast between sections

I personally believe Umi's diff needs an overhaul at this point, since I can't seem to improve my opinion about it. The longer I check, the worse it becomes in my eyes.
I might be biased, but some aspects are still lacking from my previous mod (again, contrast between different parts changed slightly. I noticed a change for the intro, but the rest is still bland)

Hope this helps you more than just my old mod. If something is not clear I can give more details eventually

Fixed all on Hard & Normal diff, deleted suggestions are fixed.
Since Umi is out of Osu, I'll take another diff.. It won't be his diff anymore if I modify too much things on his diff, I'd rather keep it like how it is actually and put it in the description instead.

Thank you for the mod, it helped me understanding alot of things xd

If you are reading this post Umi, I'm sorry

hope this is fine, sr is a bit underrated lol
http://puu.sh/xuOyG/f0e39e2da6.zip

hitsounding is mainly copied from top diff with some changes to fit my rhythm better
drum-hitnormal4 has a few ms delay and focuses a mainly on the right channel, so I included a fixed one

Kyuukai wrote:

If you are reading this post Umi, I'm sorry

it's okay, I told you to do whatever you want with it gl

it's kinda sad to see how mapping became such a serious things even tho it's a game, I missed this old times.

MrSergio wrote:

umh... let me first give you a tiny mod on the diffs that weren't mentioned in the modding process post-DQ

The following is minor stuff (aside from bold stuff):

litoluna:

1. overall the diff seems fine, idk what Marcuddles is complaining about in specific.
   I kinda dislike your overmapped triples everywhere on the map, but we might call that "style" (hint: it is not style, and it's completely unwarranted if you ask me but whatever, it's anime)
   To mention a few of those: 01:07:290 (3,4,5) - 01:08:772 (5,6,7) - 01:09:513 (1,2,3) - 02:25:068 (2,3,4) - 02:42:105 (3,4,5) - 02:43:587 (5,6,7) - 02:55:439 (1,2,3) - 02:57:661 (1,2,3) - 03:12:476 (3,4,1) - 03:13:216 (3,4,1) -
   They are actually all. Those are just triples falling on obvious 1/2 rhythms in the song, so they feel overmapped if you follow such instrument (usually vocals. Notice how I rarely, if not at all, pointed out drum triples)
   ->Behind, I can hear the effects of vocals and guitar, so I think that it is no problem to make 3 consecutive games
2. 00:10:065 (2,3,4,5,6) - bigger spacing here is meh imo. The real build-up starts from 00:10:991 (1) - so consider reducing spacing before this
3. 01:13:957 (1,2,3) - the stale movement on 2 is kinda meh, considering that's a strong beat. Doable?
4. 01:38:957 (6,7,8) - considering the song calms down you might consider also reducing spacing instead. Feels strange to keep doing crazy stuff when the song doesn't support it
5. 03:39:327 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - it would make sense to use bigger jumps for the second combo, since that's the most intense one between the two
   ->fixed

sorry late
thank you desu ^-^
http://puu.sh/xBysr.zip

[ L u k a s ] wrote:

Lasse's Insane

1. 00:22:661 (1,2) - 2 should be spaced more because the sound is stronger "stronger" sound doesn't have to equal more spacing. the patterning itself already makes this stand out a lot
2. 00:54:142 (1,2,1) - Use the same rhythm as 00:51:179 (1,1) - one of them has a snare drum on the blue tick and one doesn't, guess which
3. 01:38:679 - Put a circle here since there's a sound takes away from vocals
4. 02:00:068 (1,2,3) - All 3 objects should have equal spacing between each other why? looks perfectly fine to me and does what I want it to do
5. 02:12:290 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Since you use 1/3 here you should NC every object because it looks like 1/4 and it might confuse players repeat slider and comboing/patterning in groups of 3 makes this easily readable, doing https://i.imgur.com/ifoAq6y.jpg would be ridiculous

thanks

you can probably just get the people who qualified this before to check and requalify the map..

Lasse wrote:

drum-hitnormal4 has a few ms delay and focuses a mainly on the right channel, so I included a fixed one thanks
you can probably just get the people who qualified this before to check and requalify the map..

All updated !

Lasse's Insane
- This diff has different combo colours, and I'd probably say the brighter colours used here are a better choice than that dark brown-grey thing used in the other diffs.
- 02:53:401 (1) - This is cute, but this being the only instance you use it and it being so late in the map I can see too many people mistaking this for a short slider and releasing it too early.

Hard
- 01:52:290 - 01:56:179 - Assuming you nerfed the note density from Sergio's mod, but these gaps aren't appropriate in my opinion. The vocals are the most prominent part of this section, especially given that it's much calmer, so missing out these vocal notes in the mapping isn't the best choice when the previous rhythms heavily hint at following them already.
- 02:02:846 (4,5,1) - This stack kinda broke.
- 02:03:679 - Could be a triple to follow the guitar if you wanted.
- 02:35:439 - Could mute the slider end.

Advanced
- 01:38:401 (7) - Having this start next to circle 5 would've been cool to keep that zig-zag pattern going.
- 01:56:179 - 01:58:772 - Same issue as the Hard.
- 02:30:994 (1,1) - Probably wiser to have these a little closer together on this difficulty so time-distance thingy isn't confusing.

Normal and Easy
- 01:02:290 (3) - Missing whistle.

Easy, Normal, Advanced & Hard fixed & updated

yea the sv thing might be a bit much for a lower range insane
changed from 0.1x to 0.5x

also adjusted hs in the guitar part to fit my rhythm better

colors are fine to me either way since gds using different ones was always accepted and I do that whenever I don't really like the original ones
though I think at least removing the last grey-ish color from the other color set would look nicer as it doesn't fit well with the other colors lol

thanks!

https://0paste.com/15606.txt

Updated

rebaka

so can i

pishifat wrote:

so can i

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