Nekomata Master - Greening · forum

Ultima Fox

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-03-04T05:13:06+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, August 25, 2017 at 1:31:55 AM

Artist: Nekomata Master
Title: Greening
Source: pop'n music 12 いろは
Tags: Raindrops グリーニング Plaudible Hobbes2 Naoyuki Sato portable 19 TUNE STREET
BPM: 146
Filesize: 10422kb
Play Time: 01:48
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.24 stars, 186 notes)
Hobbes2's Insane (4.1 stars, 444 notes)
Normal (1.74 stars, 154 notes)
Plaudible's Hard (3.26 stars, 335 notes)
Serenity (4.78 stars, 531 notes)

Download: Nekomata Master - Greening
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Just a small breath of the wild..

Normal - Me
Advanced - Me
Hard - Plaudible
Insane - Hobbes2
Serenity - Me

Storyboard - Me

Metadata - http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/psp/musiclist/

Click here to download the set including Ascendance's ctb diff!

Last edited by Ultima Fox 2017-08-25T05:32:20+00:00, edited 42 times in total.

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-03-21T00:48:20+00:00

lemme know if this works for you and if you'd like any changes done

gd

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 68980
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 0.5
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Greening
TitleUnicode:Greening
Artist:Nekomata Master
ArtistUnicode:猫叉Master
Creator:Ultima Fox
Version:Plaudible's Hard
Source:
Tags:
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Ultima Fox

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-03-21T21:38:06+00:00

Plaudible wrote:

lemme know if this works for you and if you'd like any changes done

gd

osu file format v14

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could you copy histounds for me? also I suggest using combo colors similar to mine (with the pinkish colors), gives more diversity than just full green (which hurts to look at after a while z-z)

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-04-10T19:00:41+00:00

added diff and did everything you mentioned!

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,247 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-04-11T16:55:15+00:00

copy hs for me please

rain

osu file format v14

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Ultima Fox 2017-04-11T21:54:34+00:00

Added!

Megafan

284 posts

Joined June 2015

Megafan 2017-04-12T01:42:44+00:00

First time I try modding, sorry if I make any mistake c:

Normal

00:11:956 - I think the spinner needs a fast react to complete it, and it is a normal difficulty

Paudible's Hard

00:31:582 (1,2) - Maybe changing the position an adding a circle would fit there (Like doing a ctrl + h and a ctrl + j and moving it to the same position)

Hobbes2's Insane

00:39:185 (2,3) - There should be a 0,8x spaced triple (Ameo lol)

01:48:843 (1) - Akward placement

Serenity

AR 9.5 is pretty high

Yep, I'm still a newbie, sorry for doing not so much to help

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-04-13T22:37:35+00:00

megafanx3 wrote:
First time I try modding, sorry if I make any mistake c:

Normal
00:11:956 - I think the spinner needs a fast react to complete it, and it is a normal difficulty With the low od and such it should be doable, but ill get some low level friends to test just to make sure

Serenity
AR 9.5 is pretty high changed

Yep, I'm still a newbie, sorry for doing not so much to help

Thanks!

For some reason though, it wont let me give you kudosu

what i see for you

what i see for someone else

I asked around and havent really gotten an answer, but ill keep looking into it

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2017-04-16T16:53:43+00:00

[

General]

Difficulty Spread : Spread needs improvement
Background : Current dimension are 1917x1080. Please give it a correct ration
Unsnapped objects : ok!
Audio : ok!
Metadata Issues : Add to tags: Raindrops グリーニングand source should be : pop'n music 12 いろは CS
Combo Colors : ok!
Hitsounds : Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: soft-hitfinish.wav
Unused Files / Other : On the Normal, Hard and Rain you have unecessary green lines on 00:00:350 - . Use the inherited point to set hs stuff, since the green lines here aren't being used for SV, they are unrankable. In addition, only the hard diff has a kiai.

[

Normal]

I'll start off with the spread issues I have with the map. The hard difficulty uses quite a bit of 1/4, while the normal is almost exclusively 1/1 rhythms, You're mssing a diff that introduces cliceable 1/2 correctly to the player. (1/2 gapos between sliders do not do that well, and you use them so little in the map). Because of this the current spread is not good enough. Your best option is to make an advanced diff that correctly introduces 1/2. Another thing you can do is nerf the Normal by reducing the spacing everywhere and rename it to Easy, then have a normal with 1/2 instead. Or you coud make a new normal with more circles and more clickeable 1/2
I know you're also going to want to kill me for this, but from the RC: Avoid slider-only sections. Aiming and following a lot of sliders in a row can be tiring for new players. In such cases, circles and rest moments without hitobjects to click or follow should be used.
00:11:856 (1) - This spinner is way too short, It's unreasonable to think newer players could hit this
What is currently mapped for the normal isn't bad, I really couldn't find anythng big with the diff, it's well done. But the problem is just that it has issues as a normal, and has issues as the lower diff from your set.

[

Plaudible's Hard]

00:00:350 (1,2) - Have it so the 00:00:760 (2) - isn't as hidden under the slider end
00:29:117 (3) - The sharp shape here doesn't really fit in with the rest of the slider, nor the calmness of the song. Something like this could work better. Same applies 00:35:692 (6) -
01:07:541 (7,1) - In a hard I think you're better off just doing a triple here and not a 1/4 slider
01:08:569 (1) - Doesn't need an NC here
01:08:980 (2,1) - Don't have the slider hidden as much under the slider end
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above

[

Hobbes2's Insane]

00:19:665 (4) - I feel like this slider should end on 00:19:870 - and have a circle on 00:19:973 -
00:28:295 (1,2) - Have the DS here be 1.10x so it's consistent with the other in the section
00:39:185 (2,3) - Not sure why you ignored the 1/6 here, as you didn't ignore it in a lot of other spots in the map
01:15:555 (4,1) - Same thing here as 00:19:665 (4) -

[

Serenity]

00:09:185 (6) - Having this facing in the other direction just feels more natural to me
00:11:856 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It feels kinda scrunched up here. Maybe have increasing spacing to represent the crescendo in the song?
00:19:459 (2) - Would work better as 2 circles instead of a circle, like you did here 01:15:350 (2,3) -
00:25:213 (2,3,4) - Woudl be better if this wasn't stacked since you use stacking to indicate 1/6
00:26:034 (2,3,4) - And here you should stack
00:28:295 (2,3) - You could make these sliders the same. The 1 having the same curve as 3 would be nicer
00:42:678 (1) - I don't really see the need to NC here. The SV change isn't big enough to warrant an NC as a warning
01:11:754 (1) - Also NC'ing on a blue tick?? You should really go back and have a 2 NC per beat type scheme. Yopu're trying to do a lot with the NC'ing but imo it adds nothing but inconsistency to the map
01:18:021 (3) - Goes offscreen
01:35:076 (1,1,1) - 1/6
01:34:870 (1,1) - Make this into a slider so hitting the 1/6 isn't hell
01:41:445 (1,2,3) - Not sure with the very low spacing here. I don't see much of a difference with 01:41:240 (5,1) - in the music

[

Ascendance's Rain]

00:10:213 (1,2) - Not sure why you use such a weird stream shape here
00:12:164 (4,1) - Song doesn't feel strong enough to have an hdash here
00:21:308 (4,5,6,7) - The 1/4 here isn't supported
00:26:651 (1) - Have an hdash to here
01:21:925 (4,5) - Pretty sure 1/6 dash is allowed but in case it's not here's one
01:25:829 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Spacing should be lower here

Last edited by celerih 2017-04-24T13:48:34+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Aurele

Global Moderator

7,564 posts

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2017-04-24T02:05:54+00:00

@Ultima Fox, weird issue. I fixed it for you.

Megafan

284 posts

Joined June 2015

Megafan 2017-04-24T02:32:52+00:00

Gabe wrote:
@Ultima Fox, weird issue. I fixed it for you.

Wow man, thanks!

Hobbes2

osu! Alumni

2,253 posts

Joined March 2016

Hobbes2 2017-04-24T04:26:01+00:00

00:19:665 (4) - I feel like this slider should end on 00:19:870 - and have a circle on 00:19:973 - I prefer the 3/4 slider as it captures the extended sound in the melody.
00:28:295 (1,2) - Have the DS here be 1.10x so it's consistent with the other in the section wut, all of these are 1.0
00:39:185 (2,3) - Not sure why you ignored the 1/6 here, as you didn't ignore it in a lot of other spots in the map Applied
01:15:555 (4,1) - Same thing here as 00:19:665 (4) - Same reasoning

@megafanx3, for your first point that wont work since its 1/6 not 1/4, but I did fix it in a different way by using a kickslider.
for your second point, how so? seems fine to me.

Thank you guys!

code

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Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-04-24T20:00:12+00:00

celerih wrote:
[ General]

Difficulty Spread : Spread needs improvement
Background : Current dimension are 1917x1080. Please give it a correct ration I dont think that's an unrankable issue, and i did that to fix a green bar across the side of the bg which really stood out
Unsnapped objects : ok!
Audio : ok!
Metadata Issues : Add to tags: Raindrops グリーニングand source should be : pop'n music 12 いろは CS fixd
Combo Colors : ok!
Hitsounds : Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms: soft-hitfinish.wav wt f
Unused Files / Other : On the Normal, Hard and Rain you have unecessary green lines on 00:00:350 - . Use the inherited point to set hs stuff, since the green lines here aren't being used for SV, they are unrankable. In addition, only the hard diff has a kiai. o

[ Normal]
I'll start off with the spread issues I have with the map. The hard difficulty uses quite a bit of 1/4, while the normal is almost exclusively 1/1 rhythms, You're mssing a diff that introduces cliceable 1/2 correctly to the player. (1/2 gapos between sliders do not do that well, and you use them so little in the map). Because of this the current spread is not good enough. Your best option is to make an advanced diff that correctly introduces 1/2. Another thing you can do is nerf the Normal by reducing the spacing everywhere and rename it to Easy, then have a normal with 1/2 instead. Or you coud make a new normal with more circles and more clickeable 1/2
I know you're also going to want to kill me for this, but from the RC: Avoid slider-only sections. Aiming and following a lot of sliders in a row can be tiring for new players. In such cases, circles and rest moments without hitobjects to click or follow should be used.
00:11:856 (1) - This spinner is way too short, It's unreasonable to think newer players could hit this
What is currently mapped for the normal isn't bad, I really couldn't find anythng big with the diff, it's well done. But the problem is just that it has issues as a normal, and has issues as the lower diff from your set.
just gonna delete and make a new normal or smth

[ Serenity]
00:09:185 (6) - Having this facing in the other direction just feels more natural to me ok
00:11:856 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - It feels kinda scrunched up here. Maybe have increasing spacing to represent the crescendo in the song? changed but its prolly worse than b4
00:19:459 (2) - Would work better as 2 circles instead of a circle, like you did here 01:15:350 (2,3) - Since this is two circles instead of one, it kinda feels like its taking away from the pace of the song, and i think its better with just a slider
00:25:213 (2,3,4) - Woudl be better if this wasn't stacked since you use stacking to indicate 1/6 This might sound rly weird, but I feel like since the song slows down here, and less movement in the song, it fits to have these stacked (especially because its kind of a jump pattern sort of thing)
00:26:034 (2,3,4) - And here you should stack I made them a little closer together, but I dont know if I like the idea of stacking here
00:28:295 (2,3) - You could make these sliders the same. The 1 having the same curve as 3 would be nicer ok
00:42:678 (1) - I don't really see the need to NC here. The SV change isn't big enough to warrant an NC as a warning ok
01:11:754 (1) - Also NC'ing on a blue tick?? You should really go back and have a 2 NC per beat type scheme. Yopu're trying to do a lot with the NC'ing but imo it adds nothing but inconsistency to the map I think you just misread this one, because this note is stacked on (2) and serves in the same pattern as it, and also happens to be the first note in the pattern, warrenting a NC
01:18:021 (3) - Goes offscreen end me please
01:35:076 (1,1,1) - 1/6 I wasn't following the instruments here, and instead the more prominant kick drums which i mirrored with the hitsounds
01:34:870 (1,1) - Make this into a slider so hitting the 1/6 isn't hell d
01:41:445 (1,2,3) - Not sure with the very low spacing here. I don't see much of a difference with 01:41:240 (5,1) - in the music fixd

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-04-28T22:57:43+00:00

@meganfanx3 i'd like to keep this empty imo, i'd like to emphasize this section with less intensive gameplay

celerih wrote:
Plaudible's Hard
00:00:350 (1,2) - Have it so the 00:00:760 (2) - isn't as hidden under the slider end it's easy to interpret that these are 1/4, it's fine
00:29:117 (3) - The sharp shape here doesn't really fit in with the rest of the slider, nor the calmness of the song. Something like this could work better. Same applies 00:35:692 (6) - kk
01:07:541 (7,1) - In a hard I think you're better off just doing a triple here and not a 1/4 slider sure
01:08:569 (1) - Doesn't need an NC here removed
01:08:980 (2,1) - Don't have the slider hidden as much under the slider end i did this at both repetitions of the chorus intentionally
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above

ty for mods

upd

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Foxy Grandpa

719 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-05-01T07:43:32+00:00

Plchldr 2 md

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,247 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-05-10T03:10:05+00:00

Late

Source should actually be: pop'n music portable

celerih wrote:
Ascendance's Rain

00:10:213 (1,2) - Not sure why you use such a weird stream shape here Variety desu
00:12:164 (4,1) - Song doesn't feel strong enough to have an hdash here 4plet shift
00:21:308 (4,5,6,7) - The 1/4 here isn't supported Tactical overmap
00:26:651 (1) - Have an hdash to here Yes
01:21:925 (4,5) - Pretty sure 1/6 dash is allowed but in case it's not here's one 1/6 dash is fine 1/6 hdash is not but either way I made it a tiny bit more manageable
01:25:829 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Spacing should be lower here slight adjustments

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Title:Greening
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Artist:Nekomata Master
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Creator:Ultima Fox
Version:Ascendance's Rain
Source:pop'n music 12 いろは CS
Tags:Raindrops グリーニング
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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-13T22:06:57+00:00

updated
also redid normal so hopefully its better

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-05-23T23:33:36+00:00

still needs a diff between normal and hard probably

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-24T00:28:41+00:00

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Halliday

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Halliday 2017-05-24T02:08:44+00:00

Hi, NM from my queue ~

General
There is a star gap between Hard, Insane, and Serenity of .7 stars, but from Normal to Hard there is a gap of 1.6 stars, is twice as big, so you should probably look for another diff between them, lets say, an Advanced.

Normal
00:00:350 - How about using a rhytm like this instead:

00:24:596 (3,4) - Place 4 on the path of 3 for a better flow, plus, it looks better imo
00:29:939 (1,2,3) - This pattern could be improved, try curving more the borders of the slider so they blanket with 2, while keeping the simmetry.
00:47:199 - Shorthen 4 to the white tick, and (only) probably add a circle at 00:47:815 -, like:

00:51:308 (1) - I don't see the point of a reverse slider here :O A reverse slider here 00:51:719 - instead, reflecting the wavy sounds, would be nice. Similar to what you did at 00:59:528 -.
This is what I would have done there:

Or just do it like you did here 01:02:815 -

Overall I would suggest making the first half of the map just as consistent on the rhytms used as the second half ~

Paudible's Hard
Wow really nice diff
00:48:021 (1) - I think it would be better if this circle wasn't completely closed, like you do later on the map on a similar pattern (01:01:171 (1) - )
01:08:158 (2,2) - The way this two overlap isn't pretty as it is now imo
And just that really

Hobbes2's Insane
01:35:692 (1) - The reverse arrow is offscreen (with my skin) xD That's probably a problem, this doesn't happen with skins that have those reverse arrows that are inside the slider end, but many people use an "exterior" reverse arrow like mine, so...
Great diff too ;w;

Good luck everyone ~
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P.D.: Tell me the secret to get good mappers to GD on your map pls haha

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-24T02:23:44+00:00

Halliday wrote:
Hi, NM from my queue ~

General
There is a star gap between Hard, Insane, and Serenity of .7 stars, but from Normal to Hard there is a gap of 1.6 stars, is twice as big, so you should probably look for another diff between them, lets say, an Advanced.

Normal
00:00:350 - How about using a rhytm like this instead:
Uh I dont really see why, but perhaps i might change it

00:24:596 (3,4) - Place 4 on the path of 3 for a better flow, plus, it looks better imo agreed, fixed
00:29:939 (1,2,3) - This pattern could be improved, try curving more the borders of the slider so they blanket with 2, while keeping the simmetry. I think I see what you mean, fixed
00:47:199 - Shorthen 4 to the white tick, and (only) probably add a circle at 00:47:815 -, like:
Added

00:51:308 (1) - I don't see the point of a reverse slider here :O A reverse slider here 00:51:719 - instead, reflecting the wavy sounds, would be nice. Similar to what you did at 00:59:528 -.
This is what I would have done there:

Or just do it like you did here 01:02:815 - I know what you mean, but I dont have an immediate solution haha (trying to keep movement smooth), so ill fix it, but i need to think about how i want to do it first

Overall I would suggest making the first half of the map just as consistent on the rhytms used as the second half ~ Okie

Good luck everyone ~
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P.D.: Tell me the secret to get good mappers to GD on your map pls haha c:

Thanks a ton!~

Also copied hitsounds to normal because i forgot to do that before, and probably gonna make/find someone to make advanced diff to fill the gap

7ambda

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7ambda 2017-05-24T03:12:11+00:00

highest diff

00:09:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - Zigzag doesn't really fit with the rest of the map since you're using all curved and linear lines. Besides, there's nothing changing in the music, nor a different instrument that justifies this.
01:28:706 (2,1,2) - So yeah, not a fan of this 180+ degree angle, because it feels awkward. If you did something like this, it would flow more comfortably.
01:15:144 (1,2) - would make more sense if (2) is your NC, and (1) is part of the previous combo
01:34:870 (1,1,1,1,1) - NCing every circle usually indicates 1/3 change, so can you explain why you did 1/4 NCing?

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-24T22:34:52+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
highest diff

00:09:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - Zigzag doesn't really fit with the rest of the map since you're using all curved and linear lines. Besides, there's nothing changing in the music, nor a different instrument that justifies this. fixed
01:28:706 (2,1,2) - So yeah, not a fan of this 180+ degree angle, because it feels awkward. If you did something like this, it would flow more comfortably. Fixed, although it is a really big jump between (2) and (3) now
01:15:144 (1,2) - would make more sense if (2) is your NC, and (1) is part of the previous combo fixed
01:34:870 (1,1,1,1,1) - NCing every circle usually indicates 1/3 change, so can you explain why you did 1/4 NCing? changed

Thanks a ton!~

Foxy Grandpa

719 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-05-24T23:20:06+00:00

Its ur boy

[Serenity]

00:03:226 (1,2) - IMO you can rotate this like 10-15 degrees to make it more aesthetically pleasing / easier to read
00:18:329 (1) - NC here kinda tilts me, should be on 00:18:432 (2) - instead
01:14:219 (1) - Same point as above, and 01:14:733 (4) - and 01:15:144 (6) - should be NC'd also to keep consistency with the same part earlier in the map
01:27:884 (4) - The comboing in this part kinda tilts me cause u have the NCs on the blue ticks when the strong sounds are on the white ones, should be like this

fun mappu, seems good to go.

[Hobbes4]

00:56:240 (1) - Why this is so ugly u can do better cmon hobbes why u gotta play me like this
01:08:980 (3) - This is missing a sound on 01:08:980 (3) -
01:29:117 (1) - ... oh god

Solid diff :thumbs_up:

[Plaudibbbble]

00:34:870 (4) - NC to keep consistency with 00:27:473 -
01:08:980 (2) - Missing an important sound on 01:09:288 - I see what you were going for but the sound there stands out so much to me and its kinda awkward hearing it being uncovered by the sliderend

Good stuff

[Normal]

01:30:760 (4) - I'd say have this angled towards 01:31:582 (5) - cause it could be a bit confusing for newer players to see the sliderend being away from the circle.

Good set, not much I can say honestly, everything is really well done.

Good luck!~

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-25T01:05:53+00:00

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
Its ur boy

[Serenity]
00:03:226 (1,2) - IMO you can rotate this like 10-15 degrees to make it more aesthetically pleasing / easier to read fixed
00:18:329 (1) - NC here kinda tilts me, should be on 00:18:432 (2) - instead imo, i feel like (especially aesthetically) its better to have the nc on there, because since they overlap and inhabit the same space, i think it would be best to put them in the same combo. (also it looks better LOL)
01:14:219 (1) - Same point as above, and 01:14:733 (4) - and 01:15:144 (6) - should be NC'd also to keep consistency with the same part earlier in the map fixed ncs for consistency
01:27:884 (4) - The comboing in this part kinda tilts me cause u have the NCs on the blue ticks when the strong sounds are on the white ones, should be like this with how i mapped it, it makes more sense to have the ncs where they are now.

fun mappu, seems good to go.
[Normal]
01:30:760 (4) - I'd say have this angled towards 01:31:582 (5) - cause it could be a bit confusing for newer players to see the sliderend being away from the circle. fixed
Good set, not much I can say honestly, everything is really well done.

Good luck!~

thanks daddy

edit: also added kiai to every diff

defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-05-25T01:14:05+00:00

Hello there!

[General]
only plaudibles diff has a kiai, and I think it needs some kiais. I would probably do it the way plaudible did.

Top diff: 01:18:021 (3) - this slider is quite offscreen, especially on 4:3

[Normal]
00:05:281 (3) - tbh i think i would be nicer to curve this and would make the pattern as a whole look a lot nicer

00:16:582 - quite an important sound, you should probably map it.

[plaud]
00:08:569 (1) - nazi; this blanket is quite off

01:12:062 (4) - would probably ctrl + < and move this slider, i think it would flow better from 3 and to 1

00:48:021 (1) - probably would make hs volume louder to give better feedback on how loud this sound is

01:16:787 (4,5) - could probably make these the same slider

00:25:829 (1,2,3,4) - you nced your jumps here but didn't do the same for 01:21:719 (2,3,4,5)

[Hobbezzzzzzzzzz]

00:19:665 (4) - i don't get this last sharp end near the slider end, i don't feel like it matches the music at all

00:58:706 (1,2) - should be higher spacing than 00:59:117 (1,2) - to help emphasize pitch changes

01:12:267 (7) - i'd reduce this distance, seems a bit far you don't make them that far in 01:18:637 (6,7,8) - and this part is more intense

01:15:555 (4) - again with the sharp ends, I don't see how they represent the music

[Top Diff]
00:14:322 (1) - i really don't see how this slider represents the song, the song it's making any kind of "loop" per say

00:19:254 (1,2) - i would probably arrange these like you did 00:18:843 (1,2) - because that 1/4th jump between the 1,2 seems quite far

01:34:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think the song calls for this stream to have more motion, usually the player would play this very stationary. I would probably change the stream pattern to make the player move their cursor more

seems good to go, gl!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-05-25T01:35:38+00:00

helo yes i am here for mod respon

Halliday wrote:
Paudible's Hard
Wow really nice diff aww thanks <3
00:48:021 (1) - I think it would be better if this circle wasn't completely closed, like you do later on the map on a similar pattern (01:01:171 (1) - ) sure
01:08:158 (2,2) - The way this two overlap isn't pretty as it is now imo oops stacking error
And just that really

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
[Plaudibbbble]
00:34:870 (4) - NC to keep consistency with 00:27:473 - kk
01:08:980 (2) - Missing an important sound on 01:09:288 - I see what you were going for but the sound there stands out so much to me and its kinda awkward hearing it being uncovered by the sliderend changed

Good stuff <3

osuskrub wrote:
[plaud]
00:08:569 (1) - nazi; this blanket is quite off

01:12:062 (4) - would probably ctrl + < and move this slider, i think it would flow better from 3 and to 1 kk

00:48:021 (1) - probably would make hs volume louder to give better feedback on how loud this sound is shor

01:16:787 (4,5) - could probably make these the same slider 5 helps to build some better circular flow, would prefer to keep it instead of making it twice as sharp.

00:25:829 (1,2,3,4) - you nced your jumps here but didn't do the same for 01:21:719 (2,3,4,5) oops

thx for the mods guys <3
fox pls actually apply k thx love u

box

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-25T01:39:01+00:00

updated

also ill respond to your mod tomorrow, kinda worn out from mods atm

7ambda

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7ambda 2017-05-25T23:29:54+00:00

where's my kudos

Hobbes2

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Hobbes2 2017-05-26T00:53:16+00:00

@foxy, for the second point i prefer to map the extended sound there, as thats something ive been doin in the entire map

00:19:665 (4) - i don't get this last sharp end near the slider end, i don't feel like it matches the music at all It's just a shape tbh. Not really sure what the problem is

00:58:706 (1,2) - should be higher spacing than 00:59:117 (1,2) - to help emphasize pitch changes notice the symmetry in the spacing emphasis with this section and the previous one. The first measure of these has no pitch emphasis, but the second one has it on the final note as that kinda feels like the "finale"
of this part of the music. Hard to explain this, but tl;dr not really going for pitch emphasis in a general sense here.

01:12:267 (7) - i'd reduce this distance, seems a bit far you don't make them that far in 01:18:637 (6,7,8) - and this part is more intense I buffed the latter one instead

01:15:555 (4) - again with the sharp ends, I don't see how they represent the music Again, not seeing a problem here.

Thanks guys!

https://pastebin.com/0Y6bnVK8

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-26T01:08:20+00:00

@F1r3tar it wont let me give it to you

EDIT: Never mind, I managed to give you kds

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-26T01:39:23+00:00

osuskrub wrote:
Hello there!

[General]
only plaudibles diff has a kiai, and I think it needs some kiais. I would probably do it the way plaudible did.

Top diff: 01:18:021 (3) - this slider is quite offscreen, especially on 4:3

[Normal]
00:05:281 (3) - tbh i think i would be nicer to curve this and would make the pattern as a whole look a lot nicer fixed

00:16:582 - quite an important sound, you should probably map it. done

[Top Diff]
00:14:322 (1) - i really don't see how this slider represents the song, the song it's making any kind of "loop" per say I don't really think there needs to be a "loop" sound for there to be a shape like that, but thats just imo

00:19:254 (1,2) - i would probably arrange these like you did 00:18:843 (1,2) - because that 1/4th jump between the 1,2 seems quite far i can see where your coming from, but i dont really know how id fix the pattern to fit it and also i feel like the sounds its mapped to are prominent. Ill think about it and maybe change it

01:34:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think the song calls for this stream to have more motion, usually the player would play this very stationary. I would probably change the stream pattern to make the player move their cursor more changed the pattern a little

seems good to go, gl!

Thanks a ton!~

Also updated Hobbes diff

-LynX-

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-LynX- 2017-05-27T13:34:49+00:00

NM from queue

Normal

00:51:308 (1) - remove NC for this maybe as you're doing an NC every 2 bars and NC this 00:52:952 (3) -
01:06:925 (2,3) - In this non-kiai section you rarely placed objects 1/2 apart, unless there is something strong/significant going on in the music, but here the music is at a similar intensity with the rest of this section, so i don't think it's needed here
On overall I think it's fine, but perhaps you can afford to buff the map as a whole to make the spread more even (and possibly nerfing hard a little too) by maybe mapping some of those 1/4 using reverses or something. it's kinda hard to not overdo it though cos the 1/4s are everywhere in this song so idk.. maybe make an advanced diff instead xd

Plaudible's Hard

00:06:103 (4,5) - i personally wouldn't map the hi-hat (is it even the hi-hat lol) since you ignored it earlier, and i think it'd be quite hard to hit for newer players. perhaps you should just follow the drums and use this pattern 00:06:514 (6,7) - here instead.
00:13:089 (4,1) - maybe instead of stacking them you can just do a partial overlap, personal preference
00:14:733 (5,4) - stacking them would make it nicer
00:26:137 - mapping this sound would be cool i think
00:26:651 (1,2) - imo an extended slider isn't really necessary, a 1/2 slider will do just fine
00:39:391 (7,8) - the spacing here seems a bit too low, maybe move 8 close to where 00:38:158 (1) - is
00:52:541 (7,2) - the overlap seems a bit out of place, here's what i suggest https://puu.sh/w1OQb/24ff947192.png
01:41:856 (5) - an extended slider could work here, this is fine as it is though
01:43:089 (5,1) - maybe space these slightlyyy further
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you linked these back to the beginning is quite cool i think

Hobbes2's Insane

01:25:829 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this is kinda subjective, but i feel like gradually decreasing spacing would fit better with the music than gradually increasing it
01:27:473 (1,2) - if you don't decide to change this ^, i think the spacing between these 2 is a bit too small, maybe increase it a little for it to be clearly interpreted as being 1/2 apart
Pretty clean map on overall, like it a lot

Serenity

00:05:281 (1) - just a minor suggestion, maybe you can ctrl+g this to have a sharper change in direction for emphasis on the downbeat
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these
00:09:802 (5,1,2) - i think for this part you can use a similar stream to 00:09:391 (1,2,3,4) - , so it would be something like an 8 note stream but in 2 sections like this https://puu.sh/w2yEM/df88e071e3.png (but make it look 10x nicer lol)
00:15:452 (2,3) - perhaps move these upwards slightly so that the slider-end of 1 will direct the player to 2 more smoothly, would look nicer too
00:40:213 (2,3,1) - don't think the music calls for such a large spacing, especially since it drops in intensity from before
00:44:322 (5,1,2,3,4) - i think a rhythm like this would fit here better https://puu.sh/w2zey/b0aa557d81.png
00:45:041 (3,4) - i think you can use a higher spacing for this, since the music kinda justifies it
00:50:897 (5,6,1,2,3) - similarly, a rhythm like this fits better imo https://puu.sh/w2znX/d1c8b0095b.png
00:54:185 (4) - maybe you can use a 1/4 slider here instead
01:01:377 (2,3,4) - maybe stack these 3 as there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music
01:04:665 (2,3,4) - in a similar vein, personally i wouldn't stack these 3
01:15:350 (1,2,3) - ^
01:18:843 (4,5,1) - 4 -> 5 has a larger spacing than 5 -> 1 but it should be the other way around i think due to the downbeat on 1
01:25:829 (1,1,1,1) - maybe you can decrease sv gradually for these 4 since they're nc-ed
01:30:350 (3,4,1) - similarly, maybe make 4->1 more spaced than 3->4 since there's a downbeat on 1
01:38:774 - personally i think this pause is a bit weird, there's still percussion going on
01:40:213 (3,4,1) - 4 -> 1 should be more spaced than 3->4

that's all from me, good luck with your mapset

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-29T02:03:51+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
NM from queue
Normal
00:51:308 (1) - remove NC for this maybe as you're doing an NC every 2 bars and NC this 00:52:952 (3) - fixed
01:06:925 (2,3) - In this non-kiai section you rarely placed objects 1/2 apart, unless there is something strong/significant going on in the music, but here the music is at a similar intensity with the rest of this section, so i don't think it's needed here gonna keep is how it is because its transitioning into the kiai section with how it is
On overall I think it's fine, but perhaps you can afford to buff the map as a whole to make the spread more even (and possibly nerfing hard a little too) by maybe mapping some of those 1/4 using reverses or something. it's kinda hard to not overdo it though cos the 1/4s are everywhere in this song so idk.. maybe make an advanced diff instead xd ya i def need to buff this or make an advanced diff

Serenity
00:05:281 (1) - just a minor suggestion, maybe you can ctrl+g this to have a sharper change in direction for emphasis on the downbeat I think its better to keep the flow there
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
00:09:802 (5,1,2) - i think for this part you can use a similar stream to 00:09:391 (1,2,3,4) - , so it would be something like an 8 note stream but in 2 sections like this https://puu.sh/w2yEM/df88e071e3.png (but make it look 10x nicer lol) I dont really hear a noise that would call for that kind of stream in between the stream and the triplet, so i dont think i want to change it
00:15:452 (2,3) - perhaps move these upwards slightly so that the slider-end of 1 will direct the player to 2 more smoothly, would look nicer too done
00:40:213 (2,3,1) - don't think the music calls for such a large spacing, especially since it drops in intensity from before decreased spacing
00:44:322 (5,1,2,3,4) - i think a rhythm like this would fit here better https://puu.sh/w2zey/b0aa557d81.png ill keep what i have now since the next one addresses the (3)(4)
00:45:041 (3,4) - i think you can use a higher spacing for this, since the music kinda justifies it done
00:50:897 (5,6,1,2,3) - similarly, a rhythm like this fits better imo https://puu.sh/w2znX/d1c8b0095b.png I think i see what you mean,
and if someone else mentions it all add it but for right now i think its fine
00:54:185 (4) - maybe you can use a 1/4 slider here instead I dont hear a sound on the blue tick to justify that
01:01:377 (2,3,4) - maybe stack these 3 as there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music There isnt really anything to emphasize per say in the music, however i feel like in a normal section of the song like this part its good to keep movement rather than having abrupt stops (unless its for like 1/6 streams or something)
01:04:665 (2,3,4) - in a similar vein, personally i wouldn't stack these 3 fixed
01:15:350 (1,2,3) - ^ fixed
01:18:843 (4,5,1) - 4 -> 5 has a larger spacing than 5 -> 1 but it should be the other way around i think due to the downbeat on 1 fixed
01:25:829 (1,1,1,1) - maybe you can decrease sv gradually for these 4 since they're nc-ed I dont really see a point to that, I think its just fine as it is
01:30:350 (3,4,1) - similarly, maybe make 4->1 more spaced than 3->4 since there's a downbeat on 1 fixed
01:38:774 - personally i think this pause is a bit weird, there's still percussion going on fixed
01:40:213 (3,4,1) - 4 -> 1 should be more spaced than 3->4 did my best to fix

that's all from me, good luck with your mapset

Thanks a ton!~

Nyukai

2,436 posts

Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2017-06-01T10:12:19+00:00

General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here.
I think you are missing gders' names in tags
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff.

Hobbes2's Insane:

01:35:692 (1) - Was hard to notice there's a repeat there. Try to move the slider a bit up, or curve it instead.

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think.

I liked the mapset, good luck~

-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-06-02T08:09:34+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?

what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-03T23:14:10+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

ok cool

Nyukai wrote:
General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here. Fixed
I think you are missing gders' names in tags Fixed
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff. I will most likely add advanced

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think. fixed
I liked the mapset, good luck~

Thanks a ton!~

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-06-12T06:10:53+00:00

wow, awesome map

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-14T02:59:04+00:00

aigoh wrote:
wow, awesome map

thanks!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-06-14T03:41:05+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Plaudible's Hard
00:06:103 (4,5) - i personally wouldn't map the hi-hat (is it even the hi-hat lol) since you ignored it earlier, and i think it'd be quite hard to hit for newer players. perhaps you should just follow the drums and use this pattern 00:06:514 (6,7) - here instead. even though i do earlier, the song starts to transition here and the odd cymbal sound is something i feel that needs to be emphasized.
00:13:089 (4,1) - maybe instead of stacking them you can just do a partial overlap, personal preference wanted to make this one stand out a bit with a stack
00:14:733 (5,4) - stacking them would make it nicer sure
00:26:137 - mapping this sound would be cool i think bit more of a slow part here, i want small jumps but adding a triple would make this feel pretty dense imo
00:26:651 (1,2) - imo an extended slider isn't really necessary, a 1/2 slider will do just fine did this in the beginning of each section, it's how i wanted to shift from the chorus to slower part or into the repeat of the section in the next example
00:39:391 (7,8) - the spacing here seems a bit too low, maybe move 8 close to where 00:38:158 (1) - is that creates a huge diffspike and makes the SR go up in the worst spot possible, but instead i moved it to the other side, flow's a bit weirder but emphasis is stronger that way.
00:52:541 (7,2) - the overlap seems a bit out of place, here's what i suggest https://puu.sh/w1OQb/24ff947192.png
01:41:856 (5) - an extended slider could work here, this is fine as it is though i did before, but having 2 1/4 snappings this late in the song felt uncomfortable
01:43:089 (5,1) - maybe space these slightlyyy further it's fine
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you linked these back to the beginning is quite cool i think tyty

thanks for the mod!! <3 did a few changes on my own since this is a bit dated in terms of how i map

upd

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Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-23T01:42:40+00:00

updated plaudible's diff, added most of the sb and added advanced diff

Mir

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Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-12T15:48:01+00:00

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[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav?
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs.
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times.

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement?

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain.
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead.
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow.
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap?
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this?

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3?
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though.
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent?
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better?
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2.
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones.
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point.

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Ultima Fox

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Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-12T19:01:13+00:00

Mir wrote:
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sam e

[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav? Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think O it is done, so yeahj deleted wip sb.osb, ink7.png, and Lights.png
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs. I dont really see what you mean, all of them are uninherited on top of inherited which is rankable?
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times. Personally, I don't hear a third drop on the downbeat but ill probably ask people for their opinion on it

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement? I fixed the flow, but instead of using angles i used straight sliders

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain. Fixed
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead. Fixed
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow. Fixed
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap? Fixed
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this? Fixed

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though. Yeah I think it would be better mapped as is
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent? Fixed
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better? Replaced with a 1/4 slider
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2. Moved onscreen and fixed blanket
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones. I agree, so I made the weaker 1/6 sections into repeated sliders, as well as making the 1/6 section in the kiai into circles to fix the emphasis and make it more consistent
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point. i see what you mean, i made minor changes to make the emphasis make a little more sense, but I feel like the linear angle from 2-1-2 for the last part also adds its own emphasis, but thats just imo

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Thanks a ton!~ Ill get a couple more mods on advanced, and call you back when all mods are responded to

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-12T19:03:46+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound.

It's probably fine then, as long as it isn't silence. The hitsound just peaks slightly later then.

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-13T04:57:48+00:00

Hi Fox! Surprise mod!!

Advanced

00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments.
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know.
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141?
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough.

good luck c:

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-18T01:14:03+00:00

aigoh wrote:
Hi Fox! Surprise mod!! aa!

Advanced
00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments. I think the sv change fits, and the only reason i didnt change it at 01:34:048 – is because the intensity of the drums in the song
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know. fixed
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141? fixed
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed fixed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen fixed
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off fixed (except the last one wasnt really meant to blanket)
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough. Not much I can do to fix this because of the limits of the difficulty

good luck c:

thanks a ton!~

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-07-18T01:35:50+00:00

Mir wrote:
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[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3? realized i undermapped a triple so it's a triple now if that's an ok fix
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD nerf

hurr durr do dogs wurr punts

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