Nekomata Master - Greening · forum

7ambda

2,560 posts

Joined January 2015

7ambda 2017-05-24T03:12:11+00:00

highest diff

00:09:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - Zigzag doesn't really fit with the rest of the map since you're using all curved and linear lines. Besides, there's nothing changing in the music, nor a different instrument that justifies this.
01:28:706 (2,1,2) - So yeah, not a fan of this 180+ degree angle, because it feels awkward. If you did something like this, it would flow more comfortably.
01:15:144 (1,2) - would make more sense if (2) is your NC, and (1) is part of the previous combo
01:34:870 (1,1,1,1,1) - NCing every circle usually indicates 1/3 change, so can you explain why you did 1/4 NCing?

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-24T22:34:52+00:00

F1r3tar wrote:
highest diff

00:09:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - Zigzag doesn't really fit with the rest of the map since you're using all curved and linear lines. Besides, there's nothing changing in the music, nor a different instrument that justifies this. fixed
01:28:706 (2,1,2) - So yeah, not a fan of this 180+ degree angle, because it feels awkward. If you did something like this, it would flow more comfortably. Fixed, although it is a really big jump between (2) and (3) now
01:15:144 (1,2) - would make more sense if (2) is your NC, and (1) is part of the previous combo fixed
01:34:870 (1,1,1,1,1) - NCing every circle usually indicates 1/3 change, so can you explain why you did 1/4 NCing? changed

Thanks a ton!~

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-05-24T23:20:06+00:00

Its ur boy

[Serenity]

00:03:226 (1,2) - IMO you can rotate this like 10-15 degrees to make it more aesthetically pleasing / easier to read
00:18:329 (1) - NC here kinda tilts me, should be on 00:18:432 (2) - instead
01:14:219 (1) - Same point as above, and 01:14:733 (4) - and 01:15:144 (6) - should be NC'd also to keep consistency with the same part earlier in the map
01:27:884 (4) - The comboing in this part kinda tilts me cause u have the NCs on the blue ticks when the strong sounds are on the white ones, should be like this

fun mappu, seems good to go.

[Hobbes4]

00:56:240 (1) - Why this is so ugly u can do better cmon hobbes why u gotta play me like this
01:08:980 (3) - This is missing a sound on 01:08:980 (3) -
01:29:117 (1) - ... oh god

Solid diff :thumbs_up:

[Plaudibbbble]

00:34:870 (4) - NC to keep consistency with 00:27:473 -
01:08:980 (2) - Missing an important sound on 01:09:288 - I see what you were going for but the sound there stands out so much to me and its kinda awkward hearing it being uncovered by the sliderend

Good stuff

[Normal]

01:30:760 (4) - I'd say have this angled towards 01:31:582 (5) - cause it could be a bit confusing for newer players to see the sliderend being away from the circle.

Good set, not much I can say honestly, everything is really well done.

Good luck!~

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-25T01:05:53+00:00

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
Its ur boy

[Serenity]
00:03:226 (1,2) - IMO you can rotate this like 10-15 degrees to make it more aesthetically pleasing / easier to read fixed
00:18:329 (1) - NC here kinda tilts me, should be on 00:18:432 (2) - instead imo, i feel like (especially aesthetically) its better to have the nc on there, because since they overlap and inhabit the same space, i think it would be best to put them in the same combo. (also it looks better LOL)
01:14:219 (1) - Same point as above, and 01:14:733 (4) - and 01:15:144 (6) - should be NC'd also to keep consistency with the same part earlier in the map fixed ncs for consistency
01:27:884 (4) - The comboing in this part kinda tilts me cause u have the NCs on the blue ticks when the strong sounds are on the white ones, should be like this with how i mapped it, it makes more sense to have the ncs where they are now.

fun mappu, seems good to go.
[Normal]
01:30:760 (4) - I'd say have this angled towards 01:31:582 (5) - cause it could be a bit confusing for newer players to see the sliderend being away from the circle. fixed
Good set, not much I can say honestly, everything is really well done.

Good luck!~

thanks daddy

edit: also added kiai to every diff

defiance

503 posts

Joined July 2015

defiance 2017-05-25T01:14:05+00:00

Hello there!

[General]
only plaudibles diff has a kiai, and I think it needs some kiais. I would probably do it the way plaudible did.

Top diff: 01:18:021 (3) - this slider is quite offscreen, especially on 4:3

[Normal]
00:05:281 (3) - tbh i think i would be nicer to curve this and would make the pattern as a whole look a lot nicer

00:16:582 - quite an important sound, you should probably map it.

[plaud]
00:08:569 (1) - nazi; this blanket is quite off

01:12:062 (4) - would probably ctrl + < and move this slider, i think it would flow better from 3 and to 1

00:48:021 (1) - probably would make hs volume louder to give better feedback on how loud this sound is

01:16:787 (4,5) - could probably make these the same slider

00:25:829 (1,2,3,4) - you nced your jumps here but didn't do the same for 01:21:719 (2,3,4,5)

[Hobbezzzzzzzzzz]

00:19:665 (4) - i don't get this last sharp end near the slider end, i don't feel like it matches the music at all

00:58:706 (1,2) - should be higher spacing than 00:59:117 (1,2) - to help emphasize pitch changes

01:12:267 (7) - i'd reduce this distance, seems a bit far you don't make them that far in 01:18:637 (6,7,8) - and this part is more intense

01:15:555 (4) - again with the sharp ends, I don't see how they represent the music

[Top Diff]
00:14:322 (1) - i really don't see how this slider represents the song, the song it's making any kind of "loop" per say

00:19:254 (1,2) - i would probably arrange these like you did 00:18:843 (1,2) - because that 1/4th jump between the 1,2 seems quite far

01:34:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think the song calls for this stream to have more motion, usually the player would play this very stationary. I would probably change the stream pattern to make the player move their cursor more

seems good to go, gl!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-05-25T01:35:38+00:00

helo yes i am here for mod respon

Halliday wrote:
Paudible's Hard
Wow really nice diff aww thanks <3
00:48:021 (1) - I think it would be better if this circle wasn't completely closed, like you do later on the map on a similar pattern (01:01:171 (1) - ) sure
01:08:158 (2,2) - The way this two overlap isn't pretty as it is now imo oops stacking error
And just that really

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
[Plaudibbbble]
00:34:870 (4) - NC to keep consistency with 00:27:473 - kk
01:08:980 (2) - Missing an important sound on 01:09:288 - I see what you were going for but the sound there stands out so much to me and its kinda awkward hearing it being uncovered by the sliderend changed

Good stuff <3

osuskrub wrote:
[plaud]
00:08:569 (1) - nazi; this blanket is quite off

01:12:062 (4) - would probably ctrl + < and move this slider, i think it would flow better from 3 and to 1 kk

00:48:021 (1) - probably would make hs volume louder to give better feedback on how loud this sound is shor

01:16:787 (4,5) - could probably make these the same slider 5 helps to build some better circular flow, would prefer to keep it instead of making it twice as sharp.

00:25:829 (1,2,3,4) - you nced your jumps here but didn't do the same for 01:21:719 (2,3,4,5) oops

thx for the mods guys <3
fox pls actually apply k thx love u

box

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-25T01:39:01+00:00

updated

also ill respond to your mod tomorrow, kinda worn out from mods atm

7ambda

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7ambda 2017-05-25T23:29:54+00:00

where's my kudos

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2017-05-26T00:53:16+00:00

@foxy, for the second point i prefer to map the extended sound there, as thats something ive been doin in the entire map

00:19:665 (4) - i don't get this last sharp end near the slider end, i don't feel like it matches the music at all It's just a shape tbh. Not really sure what the problem is

00:58:706 (1,2) - should be higher spacing than 00:59:117 (1,2) - to help emphasize pitch changes notice the symmetry in the spacing emphasis with this section and the previous one. The first measure of these has no pitch emphasis, but the second one has it on the final note as that kinda feels like the "finale"
of this part of the music. Hard to explain this, but tl;dr not really going for pitch emphasis in a general sense here.

01:12:267 (7) - i'd reduce this distance, seems a bit far you don't make them that far in 01:18:637 (6,7,8) - and this part is more intense I buffed the latter one instead

01:15:555 (4) - again with the sharp ends, I don't see how they represent the music Again, not seeing a problem here.

Thanks guys!

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-26T01:08:20+00:00

@F1r3tar it wont let me give it to you

EDIT: Never mind, I managed to give you kds

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-05-26T01:39:23+00:00

osuskrub wrote:
Hello there!

[General]
only plaudibles diff has a kiai, and I think it needs some kiais. I would probably do it the way plaudible did.

Top diff: 01:18:021 (3) - this slider is quite offscreen, especially on 4:3

[Normal]
00:05:281 (3) - tbh i think i would be nicer to curve this and would make the pattern as a whole look a lot nicer fixed

00:16:582 - quite an important sound, you should probably map it. done

[Top Diff]
00:14:322 (1) - i really don't see how this slider represents the song, the song it's making any kind of "loop" per say I don't really think there needs to be a "loop" sound for there to be a shape like that, but thats just imo

00:19:254 (1,2) - i would probably arrange these like you did 00:18:843 (1,2) - because that 1/4th jump between the 1,2 seems quite far i can see where your coming from, but i dont really know how id fix the pattern to fit it and also i feel like the sounds its mapped to are prominent. Ill think about it and maybe change it

01:34:870 (1,2,3,4,5) - i think the song calls for this stream to have more motion, usually the player would play this very stationary. I would probably change the stream pattern to make the player move their cursor more changed the pattern a little

seems good to go, gl!

Thanks a ton!~

Also updated Hobbes diff

-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-05-27T13:34:49+00:00

NM from queue

Normal

00:51:308 (1) - remove NC for this maybe as you're doing an NC every 2 bars and NC this 00:52:952 (3) -
01:06:925 (2,3) - In this non-kiai section you rarely placed objects 1/2 apart, unless there is something strong/significant going on in the music, but here the music is at a similar intensity with the rest of this section, so i don't think it's needed here
On overall I think it's fine, but perhaps you can afford to buff the map as a whole to make the spread more even (and possibly nerfing hard a little too) by maybe mapping some of those 1/4 using reverses or something. it's kinda hard to not overdo it though cos the 1/4s are everywhere in this song so idk.. maybe make an advanced diff instead xd

Plaudible's Hard

00:06:103 (4,5) - i personally wouldn't map the hi-hat (is it even the hi-hat lol) since you ignored it earlier, and i think it'd be quite hard to hit for newer players. perhaps you should just follow the drums and use this pattern 00:06:514 (6,7) - here instead.
00:13:089 (4,1) - maybe instead of stacking them you can just do a partial overlap, personal preference
00:14:733 (5,4) - stacking them would make it nicer
00:26:137 - mapping this sound would be cool i think
00:26:651 (1,2) - imo an extended slider isn't really necessary, a 1/2 slider will do just fine
00:39:391 (7,8) - the spacing here seems a bit too low, maybe move 8 close to where 00:38:158 (1) - is
00:52:541 (7,2) - the overlap seems a bit out of place, here's what i suggest https://puu.sh/w1OQb/24ff947192.png
01:41:856 (5) - an extended slider could work here, this is fine as it is though
01:43:089 (5,1) - maybe space these slightlyyy further
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you linked these back to the beginning is quite cool i think

Hobbes2's Insane

01:25:829 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this is kinda subjective, but i feel like gradually decreasing spacing would fit better with the music than gradually increasing it
01:27:473 (1,2) - if you don't decide to change this ^, i think the spacing between these 2 is a bit too small, maybe increase it a little for it to be clearly interpreted as being 1/2 apart
Pretty clean map on overall, like it a lot

Serenity

00:05:281 (1) - just a minor suggestion, maybe you can ctrl+g this to have a sharper change in direction for emphasis on the downbeat
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these
00:09:802 (5,1,2) - i think for this part you can use a similar stream to 00:09:391 (1,2,3,4) - , so it would be something like an 8 note stream but in 2 sections like this https://puu.sh/w2yEM/df88e071e3.png (but make it look 10x nicer lol)
00:15:452 (2,3) - perhaps move these upwards slightly so that the slider-end of 1 will direct the player to 2 more smoothly, would look nicer too
00:40:213 (2,3,1) - don't think the music calls for such a large spacing, especially since it drops in intensity from before
00:44:322 (5,1,2,3,4) - i think a rhythm like this would fit here better https://puu.sh/w2zey/b0aa557d81.png
00:45:041 (3,4) - i think you can use a higher spacing for this, since the music kinda justifies it
00:50:897 (5,6,1,2,3) - similarly, a rhythm like this fits better imo https://puu.sh/w2znX/d1c8b0095b.png
00:54:185 (4) - maybe you can use a 1/4 slider here instead
01:01:377 (2,3,4) - maybe stack these 3 as there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music
01:04:665 (2,3,4) - in a similar vein, personally i wouldn't stack these 3
01:15:350 (1,2,3) - ^
01:18:843 (4,5,1) - 4 -> 5 has a larger spacing than 5 -> 1 but it should be the other way around i think due to the downbeat on 1
01:25:829 (1,1,1,1) - maybe you can decrease sv gradually for these 4 since they're nc-ed
01:30:350 (3,4,1) - similarly, maybe make 4->1 more spaced than 3->4 since there's a downbeat on 1
01:38:774 - personally i think this pause is a bit weird, there's still percussion going on
01:40:213 (3,4,1) - 4 -> 1 should be more spaced than 3->4

that's all from me, good luck with your mapset

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-29T02:03:51+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
NM from queue
Normal
00:51:308 (1) - remove NC for this maybe as you're doing an NC every 2 bars and NC this 00:52:952 (3) - fixed
01:06:925 (2,3) - In this non-kiai section you rarely placed objects 1/2 apart, unless there is something strong/significant going on in the music, but here the music is at a similar intensity with the rest of this section, so i don't think it's needed here gonna keep is how it is because its transitioning into the kiai section with how it is
On overall I think it's fine, but perhaps you can afford to buff the map as a whole to make the spread more even (and possibly nerfing hard a little too) by maybe mapping some of those 1/4 using reverses or something. it's kinda hard to not overdo it though cos the 1/4s are everywhere in this song so idk.. maybe make an advanced diff instead xd ya i def need to buff this or make an advanced diff

Serenity
00:05:281 (1) - just a minor suggestion, maybe you can ctrl+g this to have a sharper change in direction for emphasis on the downbeat I think its better to keep the flow there
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
00:09:802 (5,1,2) - i think for this part you can use a similar stream to 00:09:391 (1,2,3,4) - , so it would be something like an 8 note stream but in 2 sections like this https://puu.sh/w2yEM/df88e071e3.png (but make it look 10x nicer lol) I dont really hear a noise that would call for that kind of stream in between the stream and the triplet, so i dont think i want to change it
00:15:452 (2,3) - perhaps move these upwards slightly so that the slider-end of 1 will direct the player to 2 more smoothly, would look nicer too done
00:40:213 (2,3,1) - don't think the music calls for such a large spacing, especially since it drops in intensity from before decreased spacing
00:44:322 (5,1,2,3,4) - i think a rhythm like this would fit here better https://puu.sh/w2zey/b0aa557d81.png ill keep what i have now since the next one addresses the (3)(4)
00:45:041 (3,4) - i think you can use a higher spacing for this, since the music kinda justifies it done
00:50:897 (5,6,1,2,3) - similarly, a rhythm like this fits better imo https://puu.sh/w2znX/d1c8b0095b.png I think i see what you mean,
and if someone else mentions it all add it but for right now i think its fine
00:54:185 (4) - maybe you can use a 1/4 slider here instead I dont hear a sound on the blue tick to justify that
01:01:377 (2,3,4) - maybe stack these 3 as there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music There isnt really anything to emphasize per say in the music, however i feel like in a normal section of the song like this part its good to keep movement rather than having abrupt stops (unless its for like 1/6 streams or something)
01:04:665 (2,3,4) - in a similar vein, personally i wouldn't stack these 3 fixed
01:15:350 (1,2,3) - ^ fixed
01:18:843 (4,5,1) - 4 -> 5 has a larger spacing than 5 -> 1 but it should be the other way around i think due to the downbeat on 1 fixed
01:25:829 (1,1,1,1) - maybe you can decrease sv gradually for these 4 since they're nc-ed I dont really see a point to that, I think its just fine as it is
01:30:350 (3,4,1) - similarly, maybe make 4->1 more spaced than 3->4 since there's a downbeat on 1 fixed
01:38:774 - personally i think this pause is a bit weird, there's still percussion going on fixed
01:40:213 (3,4,1) - 4 -> 1 should be more spaced than 3->4 did my best to fix

that's all from me, good luck with your mapset

Thanks a ton!~

Nyukai

2,415 posts

Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2017-06-01T10:12:19+00:00

General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here.
I think you are missing gders' names in tags
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff.

Hobbes2's Insane:

01:35:692 (1) - Was hard to notice there's a repeat there. Try to move the slider a bit up, or curve it instead.

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think.

I liked the mapset, good luck~

-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-06-02T08:09:34+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?

what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-03T23:14:10+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

ok cool

Nyukai wrote:
General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here. Fixed
I think you are missing gders' names in tags Fixed
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff. I will most likely add advanced

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think. fixed
I liked the mapset, good luck~

Thanks a ton!~

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-06-12T06:10:53+00:00

wow, awesome map

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-14T02:59:04+00:00

aigoh wrote:
wow, awesome map

thanks!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-06-14T03:41:05+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Plaudible's Hard
00:06:103 (4,5) - i personally wouldn't map the hi-hat (is it even the hi-hat lol) since you ignored it earlier, and i think it'd be quite hard to hit for newer players. perhaps you should just follow the drums and use this pattern 00:06:514 (6,7) - here instead. even though i do earlier, the song starts to transition here and the odd cymbal sound is something i feel that needs to be emphasized.
00:13:089 (4,1) - maybe instead of stacking them you can just do a partial overlap, personal preference wanted to make this one stand out a bit with a stack
00:14:733 (5,4) - stacking them would make it nicer sure
00:26:137 - mapping this sound would be cool i think bit more of a slow part here, i want small jumps but adding a triple would make this feel pretty dense imo
00:26:651 (1,2) - imo an extended slider isn't really necessary, a 1/2 slider will do just fine did this in the beginning of each section, it's how i wanted to shift from the chorus to slower part or into the repeat of the section in the next example
00:39:391 (7,8) - the spacing here seems a bit too low, maybe move 8 close to where 00:38:158 (1) - is that creates a huge diffspike and makes the SR go up in the worst spot possible, but instead i moved it to the other side, flow's a bit weirder but emphasis is stronger that way.
00:52:541 (7,2) - the overlap seems a bit out of place, here's what i suggest https://puu.sh/w1OQb/24ff947192.png
01:41:856 (5) - an extended slider could work here, this is fine as it is though i did before, but having 2 1/4 snappings this late in the song felt uncomfortable
01:43:089 (5,1) - maybe space these slightlyyy further it's fine
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you linked these back to the beginning is quite cool i think tyty

thanks for the mod!! <3 did a few changes on my own since this is a bit dated in terms of how i map

upd

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Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-23T01:42:40+00:00

updated plaudible's diff, added most of the sb and added advanced diff

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-12T15:48:01+00:00

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[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav?
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs.
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times.

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement?

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain.
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead.
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow.
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap?
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this?

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3?
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though.
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent?
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better?
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2.
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones.
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point.

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-12T19:01:13+00:00

Mir wrote:
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sam e

[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav? Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think O it is done, so yeahj deleted wip sb.osb, ink7.png, and Lights.png
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs. I dont really see what you mean, all of them are uninherited on top of inherited which is rankable?
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times. Personally, I don't hear a third drop on the downbeat but ill probably ask people for their opinion on it

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement? I fixed the flow, but instead of using angles i used straight sliders

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain. Fixed
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead. Fixed
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow. Fixed
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap? Fixed
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this? Fixed

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though. Yeah I think it would be better mapped as is
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent? Fixed
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better? Replaced with a 1/4 slider
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2. Moved onscreen and fixed blanket
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones. I agree, so I made the weaker 1/6 sections into repeated sliders, as well as making the 1/6 section in the kiai into circles to fix the emphasis and make it more consistent
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point. i see what you mean, i made minor changes to make the emphasis make a little more sense, but I feel like the linear angle from 2-1-2 for the last part also adds its own emphasis, but thats just imo

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Thanks a ton!~ Ill get a couple more mods on advanced, and call you back when all mods are responded to

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-12T19:03:46+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound.

It's probably fine then, as long as it isn't silence. The hitsound just peaks slightly later then.

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-13T04:57:48+00:00

Hi Fox! Surprise mod!!

Advanced

00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments.
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know.
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141?
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough.

good luck c:

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-18T01:14:03+00:00

aigoh wrote:
Hi Fox! Surprise mod!! aa!

Advanced
00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments. I think the sv change fits, and the only reason i didnt change it at 01:34:048 – is because the intensity of the drums in the song
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know. fixed
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141? fixed
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed fixed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen fixed
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off fixed (except the last one wasnt really meant to blanket)
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough. Not much I can do to fix this because of the limits of the difficulty

good luck c:

thanks a ton!~

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-07-18T01:35:50+00:00

Mir wrote:
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[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3? realized i undermapped a triple so it's a triple now if that's an ok fix
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD nerf

hurr durr do dogs wurr punts

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Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-08-07T22:46:48+00:00

aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[advancd]

00:34:870 (1) - This could be kinda confusing since the flow is going the other way the slider body is going
00:38:980 (2) - I feel like instead of the repeating 1/2 slider you could have 2 of them here to emphasize the strings in the background going
00:42:678 (1) - Remove the nc to put more emphasis on the seciton change on 00:43:089 - ?
00:55:829 (1) - Same as above
01:29:117 (1,1) - overlap?

ok ur good 2 go

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-08T03:58:05+00:00

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[advancd]
00:34:870 (1) - This could be kinda confusing since the flow is going the other way the slider body is going Fixed
00:38:980 (2) - I feel like instead of the repeating 1/2 slider you could have 2 of them here to emphasize the strings in the background going Fixed
00:42:678 (1) - Remove the nc to put more emphasis on the seciton change on 00:43:089 - ? Fixed
00:55:829 (1) - Same as above Fixed
01:29:117 (1,1) - overlap? but ds aa
ok ur good 2 go

thanks!!1!

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-08-15T05:22:21+00:00

chose to fix the second point, thanks for the mod

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Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T14:58:05+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:

chose to fix the second point, thanks for the mod

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osu file format v14

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506,173,107199,6,0,P|512:237|506:316,1,135,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,351,107610,2,0,L|400:353,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,291,108021,2,0,P|310:227|316:148,1,135,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,113,108432,2,0,L|422:111,1,90,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,351,108843,5,2,0:0:0:0:

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updated and calling mir back

Mir

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Mir 2017-08-15T19:21:09+00:00

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[General]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
sb\wip sb.osb
sb\ink7.png
sb\Lights.png

Other sb stuff:
wallhaven-213468.png can be converted to jpg to save lots of filespace atm it's 3.4 megs wew

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav

Possibly off-screen objects:
00:18:432 (1) - Advanced diff

Green lines:
00:00:350 - (volume level) (custom set number) all diffs

Other hitsound stuff:
Why does soft-hitwhistle go on for SO long, can't you cut it down to like 2.5 seconds or something

Difficulty settings:
Normal HP is a bit high and Advanced to Hard is a bit too close, try 3>4>5 might work nicer.
Bring down the OD on Advanced cuz it's the same as the Hard and thats kinda ??
Increase the topdiff OD cuz it's the same as the Insane lol

[Serendipity]
- 01:04:459 (1,2,3,4) - Can you align this better?
- 01:28:603 (1,2,1,2) - This emphasis is still bleh because 01:29:014 (1,2) - is way stronger but is dwarfed when compared to the emphasis put on 01:28:603 (1,2) - :/
[Hobbes' Insane]
- 00:14:733 (5,6) - 00:15:452 (2,3) - Can you not have your 1/2 and 1/4 spaced exactly the same. :/

Call me after all the stuff is fixed.

Ultima Fox

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Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T20:19:44+00:00

Mir wrote:
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[General]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
sb\wip sb.osb
sb\ink7.png
sb\Lights.png On my end, those are deleted and ive updated a few times since i deleted them so im not sure what the issue is.

Other sb stuff:
wallhaven-213468.png can be converted to jpg to save lots of filespace atm it's 3.4 megs wew converted to jpg

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav we talked about it with the later peak ( https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png )

Possibly off-screen objects:
00:18:432 (1) - Advanced diff Moved more on screen

Green lines:
00:00:350 - (volume level) (custom set number) all diffs fixed

Other hitsound stuff:
Why does soft-hitwhistle go on for SO long, can't you cut it down to like 2.5 seconds or something considering how spaced out the hitwhistles are, I feel like thats not a problem because they do not overlap

Difficulty settings:
Normal HP is a bit high and Advanced to Hard is a bit too close, try 3>4>5 might work nicer.
Bring down the OD on Advanced cuz it's the same as the Hard and thats kinda ??
Increase the topdiff OD cuz it's the same as the Insane lol fixed all

[Serendipity]
- 01:04:459 (1,2,3,4) - Can you align this better? changed it to something i like a little better
- 01:28:603 (1,2,1,2) - This emphasis is still bleh because 01:29:014 (1,2) - is way stronger but is dwarfed when compared to the emphasis put on 01:28:603 (1,2) - :/ fixed
[Hobbes' Insane]
- 00:14:733 (5,6) - 00:15:452 (2,3) - Can you not have your 1/2 and 1/4 spaced exactly the same. :/

Call me after all the stuff is fixed.

aasdf

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2017-08-15T20:37:14+00:00

wat, they're not spaced the same lol, its a pretty obvious difference

Mir

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Mir 2017-08-15T20:55:11+00:00

ok hobbes gosh don't be so r00d

Metadata: http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/psp/musiclist/

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Catlogs:

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22:43 Mir: 00:00:350 - fix timing line settings
22:43 Mir: all diffs

22:43 Mir: also metadata where
22:44 Ultima Fox: i thot i made them all consistent
22:44 Ultima Fox: did i miss one
22:44 Mir: still isn't fixed o.o
22:45 Ultima Fox: `all of them should be sc2 39%
22:45 Ultima Fox: your talking about the green line right?
22:46 Mir: the problem is http://i.imgur.com/YyCh9VB.png
22:46 Mir: the red and green lines are different settings
22:46 Mir: you have to make them the same cuz they're in the same place
22:47 Ultima Fox: i see
22:47 Ultima Fox: okay
22:47 Ultima Fox: also metadata
22:47 Ultima Fox: http://popnmusic.wikia.com/wiki/Greening
22:47 Mir: do you have anything more official
22:48 Ultima Fox: i can try to find something more official
22:49 Ultima Fox: but thats what ive used
22:51 Ultima Fox: http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/psp/musiclist/
22:51 Mir: well done
22:51 Mir: this'll do
22:51 Ultima Fox: okay cool
22:51 Ultima Fox: im just changing the timing points atm
22:51 Ultima Fox: then i think im good to go
22:53 Mir: ok

Looks good! Bubbled.

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2017-08-15T20:59:59+00:00

thanks murr

Ultima Fox

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Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T21:01:30+00:00