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_handholding
100 favourites is extremely difficult to achieve unless you're a very high profile mapper. Even then it can be a challenege

I also think a high amount of SP is good since it would stop people from submitting a plethora of maps and rather pick a select few (or 1 for most people xd). An SP of 30, as Bara suggested earlier, would have a few mappers submitting map after map which I don't think would be healthy for the loved section because reasons
Zero__wind
I wonder if a map can get LOVEd passively.
With this, I'm asking that if we, the community can make a map LOVEd without the creator's permission. There may be cases in which the map meets the requirements to be LOVEd but the creator does NOT want it LOVEd, or the creator was away from the game for long or banned. So is this kind of maps able to be LOVEd?

It'll also be important to enable kudosu-shooting for graved maps, otherwise tons of "dead" treasures will never meet the sp requirement.
_handholding
Well if the creator does not want his map loved then why would you force it to be???

As for the the creator left the game or is banned, tough luck I guess
Monstrata
The majority of Loved maps got there without the mapper's consent really...
_handholding
That doesn't really answer the question (though it was somewhat rhetorical) . If the mapper doesn't desire their map to be Loved why is it a good idea to force it? Just leave it, it's their map. The way the older loved maps got through without consent is past
Bara-
I'd say we should get permission from a mapper if he's still active as that is the least we can do
Aurele

Monstrata wrote:

The majority of Loved maps got there without the mapper's consent really...
That is pretty true.

Thinking about this, the Loved system is not really a community thing anymore because the mapper has the choice to make it Loved instead of Ranked. Let's just have a moment: A mapper will ask everyone to get as much favorites and kudosus on their map because they want their map to be "Loved". This is not a community choice, it's a personal choice in this case.

This was not the point of the Loved section at first.

idktbh
Seijiro

xtrem3x wrote:

100 favs + 50 SP is better (?)
make it at least 100 and 100 :v

30 fav aren't enough to call it a "community thing" (you can ask some friends if 5 or 10 other people fav'd already and that's it)
only 30 SP as Stefan proposed doesn't look appealing either...

As I see it is: if 100 people like the map so much as to put it among favourites they can as well shot 1 kd each and show their support (this implies that these users are mappers/modders and they have a bit of knowledge about maps, hopefully).
I just believe the current exchange rate is way too lenient and still abusable (as mentioned, you can easily get 30 favs if you really want)
ErunamoJAZZ
I agree with 100/100.

Loved by mapper (SP), and loved by community(favs)
Izzz

MrSergio wrote:

xtrem3x wrote:

100 favs + 50 SP is better (?)
make it at least 100 and 100 :v

30 fav aren't enough to call it a "community thing" (you can ask some friends if 5 or 10 other people fav'd already and that's it)
only 30 SP as Stefan proposed doesn't look appealing either...

As I see it is: if 100 people like the map so much as to put it among favourites they can as well shot 1 kd each and show their support (this implies that these users are mappers/modders and they have a bit of knowledge about maps, hopefully).
I just believe the current exchange rate is way too lenient and still abusable (as mentioned, you can easily get 30 favs if you really want)
the problem is in order to make it hard to abuse the system it also makes it hard to get maps loved as a whole. this stays true to 'loved by the community', but it also becomes exponentially harder to produce something that qualifies, ruining the point of a system made in part to make it easier to get a map recognized with less effort.

maybe a good idea would be to have more than one way to get a map loved? This new system, although it stays more true to the original intent of the loved section, is completely different from the community voting we used to have.
Voli
did ppl even read my post, i typed up literally everything and ppl are just repeatin things .-.
Krfawy
The community is not made of mappers only and those mappers who aim to make somehow >perfect< or >rankable< maps aim for >ranked< section that is reserved for people who map for >ranked< so their point of view is "Quality, quality, quality, quality... What the heck is mapping for fun? Quality..." and thanks God now we have the other section that can actually show what the community wants to be the real thing. Remember that the ranked section is not always the place for the maps that are simply loved by the community, the maps still have to be approved by at least two or three members of the staff or/and the BNG. This is how the >quality< is supposed to be gained. Basically, some maps are meant to be liked by the staff and the BNG but disliked by the community, that is a normal thing.

So, now we have the "Loved" section that is supposed to work as the field for those who map for the community even if their mapping skills are somehow lacking or too amazing, or 2in1, or because the ranking process might damage the map too much... or because anything. So, people show their love on some maps and if the maps are loved on the level they can be sent to the Loved section, why the hell are people obligated to shoot kudosu and/or mod them if it's not aimed to polish them more as the maps are polished enough in the actual state? For Lord's sake, not every player or even every mapper is a modder, thus why would they be obligated to gain star priority too? 100 favs are hardcore to be reached but hello, the fact one gained 100 favs and no single kudos means something more than that the other one gained 35 favourites and 400 kudosu from one person who could spend it, where the one who gave all the kudosu is probably the mapper.

And for those who say the SP is needed: try to gain 100 kudosu on your own by modding maps and then spend all the kudosu gained on your map so you can get it loved. LOL

Voli, thank you for your post: p/5781055
Crok425
All in all my map is screwed... oh well, time to work harder I guess.
Arzenvald
the Favorite amount is okay, but i'd suggest to use the amount of people who shot Kudosu Stars, rather than the total SP itself
Blitzfrog
I tried to shoot a kudosu here, I tried...
johnmedina999
Did you lose the kudosu?
Amethyst507
All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked

All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
Izzz

Amethyst507 wrote:

All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked

All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
unless you're speedranking, shooting kudosu matters p much none. You'll probably have enough sp by mods alone by the time the map is ready to be ranked.
Xinnoh

Amethyst507 wrote:

All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked

All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
That's not how the ranking system works at all
Bara-

Amethyst507 wrote:

All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked

All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
SP literally means nothing, unless your map has less than 12 SP.
Skubi
When is next "loving" maps cycle?
Tangy
been a month since last batch
WalterToro
Last map loved was on Feb. 15th, When is the next Loved cycle of maps? Like, nobody knows and there's no signs of new maps in Loved.
_Meep_

WalterToro wrote:

Last map loved was on Feb. 15th, When is the next Loved cycle of maps? Like, nobody knows and there's no signs of new maps in Loved.
Skubi

_Meep_ wrote:

WalterToro wrote:

Last map loved was on Feb. 15th, When is the next Loved cycle of maps? Like, nobody knows and there's no signs of new maps in Loved.
deadpon3
^
Aurele
New Loved batch is up.

You can view them here!
Nevertary
#want to ask

if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
Caput Mortuum

Nevertary wrote:

#want to ask

if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316
Nevertary

Eraser wrote:

Nevertary wrote:

#want to ask

if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316
😞
Izzz

Eraser wrote:

Nevertary wrote:

#want to ask

if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316

pretty sure you can. that one jump training map used to be loved.
CommandoBlack
Why is the SP the same for all the game modes? That's kinda dumb considering the % of players are different on all 4 modes.
Aurele

CommandoBlack wrote:

Why is the SP the same for all the game modes? That's kinda dumb considering the % of players are different on all 4 modes.
Trust me, it's easy to get.
Nevertary
Does the SP have to come from other player?
can we shoot a star (up to 100) to our own maps for loved? .-.
Caput Mortuum

Gabe wrote:

CommandoBlack wrote:

Why is the SP the same for all the game modes? That's kinda dumb considering the % of players are different on all 4 modes.
Trust me, it's easy to get.
if anything, it's the favorites that are hard to get.

Nevertary wrote:

Does the SP have to come from other player?
can we shoot a star (up to 100) to our own maps for loved? .-.
yes, we can shoot the star ourselves. however, if you shot 100 stars yourself, loctav might be a bit reluctant to give it loved status. idk tho
WalterToro

Pope Gadget wrote:

Everything's fine except that there needs to be (unless I'm blind) more clarity on when each round starts. Seems to be at random at the moment.

Gekido- wrote:

Is there a set time on how often loved voting is? Because it seems totally random right now.

n0ah wrote:

I dont mind waiting a month but id like for it to be on the same day every month, the 28th for example (or at the start of each month)
This was a problem back then and is still a problem now, I think is better (community wise) to have a fixed date for new loved maps (like, the 1st of every month) to generate expectation.

Again, last loved map (non aspire) was on Apr. 2nd, I know that there are a bunch of maps that are going into loved but I dont know when.
Net0

Loctav wrote:



You have a beatmap and you want scoreboards for it, but it doesn't adhere to the Ranking Criteria and can't be ranked?

Congratulations! You're in luck! Loved is a beatmap section where beatmap sets that have received a lot of attention from the community (or a lot of love from an enterprising modder, whose work keeps the mapping world alive), can obtain a scoreboard all of their own.

All that you need is Star Priority! That's right, you can get your beatmap set Loved if it has a high enough Star Priority and people having your beatmap set put as favorite!
Read the terms and conditions in the submission form, fill it out and queue up for the next wave of Loved beatmaps to be released!

Keep in mind that the conditions to get your beatmap set Loved might change for the sake of keeping it balanced and fair for everybody. Make sure that you have finished all changes to the beatmap set before submitting it, because we might move it over at any time without warning

With this, we open up Loved as an alternative to classic Ranked for everybody and give Star Priority some long-awaited value. Loved was not supposed to be reserved to gimmick maps only, but was supposed to be an alternative to Ranked and those who do not want to undergo the process of ranking a beatmap set the usual way.

Loved beatmap sets will remain exactly as they have been - they will still not give any performance points and the leaderboards can reset anytime if the mapset owner decides to take it down for whatever purpose.

With this, the regular community votings for Loved will not take place anymore.
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Hpocks
Submitted The General!
Pichu
This might seem like a very silly question, but how do I get Star Power on a map?
I just rejoined the community and I have a map with almost 30 favorites, but how do I get SP?
CircusGalop
I have a question.

Terms and Conditions wrote:

2. Every beatmap set must be submitted individually.
LINK
Does this mapset violate "submitting individually"? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/332673
Each map of classical piano music uses same hitsound files and does not include any mp3 file.
All those hitsound files are single tone of piano. There was no reason to upload them individually.
Caput Mortuum

Pichu wrote:

This might seem like a very silly question, but how do I get Star Power on a map?
I just rejoined the community and I have a map with almost 30 favorites, but how do I get SP?
*star priority.

Revive your graveyarded map then update it, else it will go back to the graveyard. Then you will see an option to shoot a kudosu star. You can get sp from people shooting it or modding it.
JamesHappy

CircusGalop wrote:

I have a question.

Terms and Conditions wrote:

2. Every beatmap set must be submitted individually.
LINK
Does this mapset violate "submitting individually"? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/332673
Each map of classical piano music uses same hitsound files and does not include any mp3 file.
All those hitsound files are single tone of piano. There was no reason to upload them individually.
I think not, based on the previous loved mapset.
Hpocks
It is ok if I update my map between the point of submission up until it gets loved, right?
tatatat
why isn't there a schedule for when maps get loved? It'd be kinda nice.
saggi
What is going on with that break between loved mapa updates? 2 weeks and now a month.
tatatat

DominiGG wrote:

What is going on with that break between loved mapa updates? 2 weeks and now a month.
Yeah I know right. I don't even know if there is any reasoning behind it. I'm thinking its just like an admin gets up one morning and is like, "hmmm... I think I'm going to move some maps into the loved category today." idk. Maybe there is a schedule behind it, but the whole process isn't very transparent. pls don't get angery at me for complaining.
h3oCharles
not my map, but I think it's ready https://osu.ppy.sh/s/543937
tatatat

h3oCharles wrote:

not my map, but I think it's ready https://osu.ppy.sh/s/543937
If the map owner thinks its ready they can submit it through the google forums found in the original post on this thread.
tatatat
Are we ever gonna get any word as to whats going on with loved maps?
blobdash

tatatat wrote:

Are we ever gonna get any word as to whats going on with loved maps?
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/601062?n=131
Ephemeral
So as to avoid confusion, this thread will be closed until the Loved rework has taken place. We will announce when this happens via a news article.
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