So is this a new way to make the map loved? Will there be any votes again?
Loctav wrote:
With this, the regular community votings for Loved will not take place anymore.
OT: Geesh, my phone is bugging out when typing this...Deivedux wrote:
So is this a new way to make the map loved? Will there be any votes again?
Even tho they made a new system of loving new maps, they still have to look at the map at least once, to know WHY exactly the community love it so much. I mean, 16* maps shouldn't really be loved since it is very difficult, but I'm not a CTB player so I'm not going to judge the map for now.Mwallx wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/406881
This map is just a simple example to show how unimportant SP is.It has only been modded once by the mapper himself before getting loved and has only 1 star,yet it has one of the biggest fav number among all the CTB-only mapsets.
Such maps are impossible to play in standard (Heck, someone passing a 9* appeared in osu!weekly, do that's quite something), but for the other modes, people can play it. At least in Mania, where I've seen people pass 19* maps, and in CtB, where ExGon FCs a 16*. Not sure on taiko, I think 10* is the limit thereDeivedux wrote:
Ofc the voting system is great, since the community itself can choose which map it wants in Loved category, but that doesn't mean that neither Ephemeral nor Loctav will not look at the map themselves before accepting the aplication for Loving a map (unless they actually won't and will judge by the ammount of stars and etc.).Even tho they made a new system of loving new maps, they still have to look at the map at least once, to know WHY exactly the community love it so much. I mean, 16* maps shouldn't really be loved since it is very difficult, but I'm not a CTB player so I'm not going to judge the map for now.Mwallx wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/406881
This map is just a simple example to show how unimportant SP is.It has only been modded once by the mapper himself before getting loved and has only 1 star,yet it has one of the biggest fav number among all the CTB-only mapsets.
Bara- wrote:
But also nearly no one gives stars to 12SP+ maps. And why would they do that (except for showing a sign of appreciation towards the mapper)?
SP currently means absolutely nothing, if it's 13, or 96, nobody would care. It's above 12, so it's rankable
This will finally give a meaning to SP
the point isn't that sp is currently a good way to judge if something deserves to be loved, the point is to give it the purpose of judging if something will be loved. As mentioned a while back, kudosu's don't matter at all once you pass 12 sp, the requirement for getting a map ranked. Beyond that, its used to show support of a mapset, kind of like a favorite, except you have a limited amount to use and it takes some effort to get them to use. Otherwise, a set can earn sp through mods the map receives. Maps such as der wald aren't made to be ranked, and are generally finished, submitted, and left alone to be graveyarded. this means they don't get those mods, nor do they get many people shooting kudosu within the month they are in pending.Mwallx wrote:
No,the current voting system works pretty stable and fine,rushing undiscussed new way to replace it would do no good to our community.I suppose this method should stay at a sub-alternative way to be further tested and researched.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/406881
This map is just a simple example to show how unimportant SP is.It has only been modded once by the mapper himself before getting loved and has only 1 star,yet it has one of the biggest fav number among all the CTB-only mapsets.Considering the scale,180 favs in CTB basically equals to 3000 favs in STD in popularity.Nobody would like to see maps like this being forgotten in oblivion due to this rash rigid selecting way.Whether a map is being loved should not ever be judged only by a standard number of favs or SPs.
I think there should be two ways of requirement "paths" you can choose:Kibbleru wrote:
tbh it would make alot more sense if it was 100 favourites and 30 sp instead lol
Should also be considered but I can't really figure out what numbers are acceptable, CTB should have a lower number compared to Taiko and Mania from what I've seen.Monstrata wrote:
Might be better to scale # of favourites according to the mode involved, because I doubt taiko/ctb/mania get as much favourite attention as standard.
Joezapy wrote:
And another thing; how can we get maps from people who are partially or completely inactive in the game put in loved, since the mapper has to submit it for loved themselves? Why can't the community themselves submit qualified maps for loved, something which not even the previous community voting provided?
Stefan wrote:
I think there should be two ways of requirement "paths" you can choose:
- 100 SP + 30 Fav = requires more Kudosu to be spent on the map but works very well if you mod regulary anyways. That is a very good alternative if you urgently want to see your map with a scoreboard and depends less on the community since the difference between 30 and 100 is huge, and reason to choose this way, if you love your map enough to put so much effort.
- 100 Fav + 30 SP = works very well for Maps which already has 100 Favorites or more, mostly older maps can profit from this path. As well, mapper which don't really mod or aren't into modding can work well if ther map is highly loved by the community.
That is pretty true.Monstrata wrote:
The majority of Loved maps got there without the mapper's consent really...
make it at least 100 and 100 :vxtrem3x wrote:
100 favs + 50 SP is better (?)
the problem is in order to make it hard to abuse the system it also makes it hard to get maps loved as a whole. this stays true to 'loved by the community', but it also becomes exponentially harder to produce something that qualifies, ruining the point of a system made in part to make it easier to get a map recognized with less effort.MrSergio wrote:
make it at least 100 and 100 :vxtrem3x wrote:
100 favs + 50 SP is better (?)
30 fav aren't enough to call it a "community thing" (you can ask some friends if 5 or 10 other people fav'd already and that's it)
only 30 SP as Stefan proposed doesn't look appealing either...
As I see it is: if 100 people like the map so much as to put it among favourites they can as well shot 1 kd each and show their support (this implies that these users are mappers/modders and they have a bit of knowledge about maps, hopefully).
I just believe the current exchange rate is way too lenient and still abusable (as mentioned, you can easily get 30 favs if you really want)
unless you're speedranking, shooting kudosu matters p much none. You'll probably have enough sp by mods alone by the time the map is ready to be ranked.Amethyst507 wrote:
All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked
All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
That's not how the ranking system works at allAmethyst507 wrote:
All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked
All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
SP literally means nothing, unless your map has less than 12 SP.Amethyst507 wrote:
All those SP enough to make several quality maps by several mappers go ranked
All being used up just to add a leaderboard for that one particular unrankable map for that one particular mapper only
WalterToro wrote:
Last map loved was on Feb. 15th, When is the next Loved cycle of maps? Like, nobody knows and there's no signs of new maps in Loved.
_Meep_ wrote:
WalterToro wrote:
Last map loved was on Feb. 15th, When is the next Loved cycle of maps? Like, nobody knows and there's no signs of new maps in Loved.
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316Nevertary wrote:
#want to ask
if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
😞Eraser wrote:
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316Nevertary wrote:
#want to ask
if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
Eraser wrote:
only rates, i think. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/493316Nevertary wrote:
#want to ask
if loved beatmap is the beatmap that doesn't follow the Ranking Criteria
so can i use different mp3 files on every difficulties ? .-.
Trust me, it's easy to get.CommandoBlack wrote:
Why is the SP the same for all the game modes? That's kinda dumb considering the % of players are different on all 4 modes.
if anything, it's the favorites that are hard to get.Gabe wrote:
Trust me, it's easy to get.CommandoBlack wrote:
Why is the SP the same for all the game modes? That's kinda dumb considering the % of players are different on all 4 modes.
yes, we can shoot the star ourselves. however, if you shot 100 stars yourself, loctav might be a bit reluctant to give it loved status. idk thoNevertary wrote:
Does the SP have to come from other player?
can we shoot a star (up to 100) to our own maps for loved? .-.
Pope Gadget wrote:
Everything's fine except that there needs to be (unless I'm blind) more clarity on when each round starts. Seems to be at random at the moment.
Gekido- wrote:
Is there a set time on how often loved voting is? Because it seems totally random right now.
This was a problem back then and is still a problem now, I think is better (community wise) to have a fixed date for new loved maps (like, the 1st of every month) to generate expectation.n0ah wrote:
I dont mind waiting a month but id like for it to be on the same day every month, the 28th for example (or at the start of each month)
editLoctav wrote:
You have a beatmap and you want scoreboards for it, but it doesn't adhere to the Ranking Criteria and can't be ranked?
Congratulations! You're in luck! Loved is a beatmap section where beatmap sets that have received a lot of attention from the community (or a lot of love from an enterprising modder, whose work keeps the mapping world alive), can obtain a scoreboard all of their own.
All that you need is Star Priority! That's right, you can get your beatmap set Loved if it has a high enough Star Priority and people having your beatmap set put as favorite!
Read the terms and conditions in the submission form, fill it out and queue up for the next wave of Loved beatmaps to be released!
Keep in mind that the conditions to get your beatmap set Loved might change for the sake of keeping it balanced and fair for everybody. Make sure that you have finished all changes to the beatmap set before submitting it, because we might move it over at any time without warning
With this, we open up Loved as an alternative to classic Ranked for everybody and give Star Priority some long-awaited value. Loved was not supposed to be reserved to gimmick maps only, but was supposed to be an alternative to Ranked and those who do not want to undergo the process of ranking a beatmap set the usual way.
Loved beatmap sets will remain exactly as they have been - they will still not give any performance points and the leaderboards can reset anytime if the mapset owner decides to take it down for whatever purpose.
With this, the regular community votings for Loved will not take place anymore.
Does this mapset violate "submitting individually"? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/332673Terms and Conditions wrote:
2. Every beatmap set must be submitted individually.
LINK
*star priority.Pichu wrote:
This might seem like a very silly question, but how do I get Star Power on a map?
I just rejoined the community and I have a map with almost 30 favorites, but how do I get SP?
I think not, based on the previous loved mapset.CircusGalop wrote:
I have a question.Does this mapset violate "submitting individually"? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/332673Terms and Conditions wrote:
2. Every beatmap set must be submitted individually.
LINK
Each map of classical piano music uses same hitsound files and does not include any mp3 file.
All those hitsound files are single tone of piano. There was no reason to upload them individually.
Yeah I know right. I don't even know if there is any reasoning behind it. I'm thinking its just like an admin gets up one morning and is like, "hmmm... I think I'm going to move some maps into the loved category today." idk. Maybe there is a schedule behind it, but the whole process isn't very transparent. pls don't get angery at me for complaining.DominiGG wrote:
What is going on with that break between loved mapa updates? 2 weeks and now a month.
If the map owner thinks its ready they can submit it through the google forums found in the original post on this thread.h3oCharles wrote:
not my map, but I think it's ready https://osu.ppy.sh/s/543937
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/601062?n=131tatatat wrote:
Are we ever gonna get any word as to whats going on with loved maps?