1. Endless (4.64 stars, 1393 notes)

Hobbes2 wrote:

requested by kisses, short mod

these combos could be 1 measure long, they dont have to be 2

01:05:454 (1,2) - well this pattern would look much better and cleaner if it was blanketed. looks kinda sloppy atm applies to all of these
Fixed, maybe I changed the spacing a bit too much...

01:18:238 (5,6,7) - line these up properly. copy paste 5 and 6 and move that on top of 6 to get the placement for 7
Done

01:37:414 - This drum is rather prominent so i prefer it to be mapped
Done

01:38:778 - triplet? seems it would be more consistent
Almost felt like I made too many triplets but this one still fits, done

01:38:863 (3,1) - avoid coming this close to overlapping, some more distance between the objects would be nice
Not sure why I used such low spacing there, fixed

01:42:954 (5) - rotate twice and ctrl+G? better flow to 6 that way
I don't think it makes much of a difference but I guess it looks better, done~

01:48:750 (1) - this NC is not necessary
That NC ninja'd its way in there, fixed

02:38:181 (1,2) - this stack feels inconsistent to me, would rather it just be normal movement
CTRL+G'd 2 & 3 until I come up with a better pattern

02:57:613 (3,4,1) - this all feels really cramped to me
Changed, should be better now

03:50:795 (2) - NC not needed, also the lyricist does some cool 1/3 vocals here you could map em out!
I messed around a bit with 1/3 rhythms but nothing seems to fit that well...

03:58:977 (2) - the one fourth gaps are not usually spaced like this, keep it consistent with the other ones in this area (by using low spacing)
Reduced spacing a bit

A lot of the stuff that can be improved will be fixed over time through mods, like blankets and aesthetics. You guys did a good job overall in terms of rhythm (outside of a general lack of 1/4 like I mentioned). The storyboard is pretty cool.

Good luck~

Hobbes2 wrote:

requested by kisses, short mod

00:04:090 (5) - I think the red tick should be mapped. ok

00:09:545 (4,5) - ^ for a similar reason to the above id ctrl+g the rhythm. no, the slider would end up on a clap in the drum track

00:22:500 (3,4,1) - I think this pattern would be improved if you could move so that its halfway between 3 and 4. fair enough

00:28:977 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - eh not really a fan here, the music doesnt really seem like it would call for a bunch of circles in a row equally spaced like this. fair enough


00:42:272 (2) - NC? ok

@Hathz your part here lacks 1/4 rhythms which kinda confuses me. it is a dnb song after all! sounds like these blue tick hihats 01:52:414 - sound good spots for triplets. things like that, you could spice up this section by using some more 1/4 it's a calm song, i don't feel like it needs it.

02:48:494 (6,8) - are overmapped it's a dnb song

03:15:852 (2) - would prefer more spacing to this note, this pattern feels kinda awkward atm. fixed some stuff around there since there was an overlap as well

03:16:193 (4) - giving this a jump kinda dilutes the emphasis on 3 and 1 which are the stronger sounds ^

marth0 wrote:

hi, from #modreqs

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01:25:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this might be a little nazi but rotate 10º this so it flows better with 01:25:738 (4)
Done~

03:40:568 (5,1) - blank these better with 03:40:056 (4)
Fixed

06:37:159 (3,4,5,6,7) - space this so 6 is the one that is further from the others.
Increased the spacing between 5 & 6 a bit so it should be fine now

love the song and the SB.
keep up the good work

marth0 wrote:

hi, from #modreqs hi

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Just a little idea. how about making all the sliders like this 00:02:386 (6) flow like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7149676 you do it here 00:05:113 (8) and here 00:13:295 (6) and looks pretty good imo. this of course until 00:21:818 (1) Yes, oops

00:38:693 (2,3,4) - don't make a straigh line here. do it like this or similar. 00:35:965 (2,3,4) sure why not
00:53:863 (1) - personally I would make stacked 3 singles here. I think it's fine this way
01:59:829 (6) - move this down to avoid the overlap. it feels off because everything else isn't overlapped. ok
02:04:602 (3) - ^ same. eh kinda hard to change cause of the pattern
02:45:255 (2,3) - move this down as you do here 02:39:801 (2,3) its a nice notice that this is actually a collab ^^ ^3^
02:47:301 (4,5) - ^ same. ^
02:48:238 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this plays a little weird. maybe just crtl+H and rotate 90º. i think it's fine
04:11:250 (2,3) - blank this blank'd

1. 00:04:772 - Missing a dominant note here, you can change it to reverse slider.
2. 00:08:693 - Again here.
3. 00:14:318 - ^^
4. 00:19:602 (2,3,4) - 2 can be slider that ends on red tick, and i think you mapped vocals here and there's no beat on 4's beginning? Could put a circle on the end only.
5. 00:21:818 (1,2) - Sliderend is more dominant than circle. Also missing beat on slider's red tick. This repeats for every same pattern.
6. 00:22:500 (3) - Dominant beat on sliderend. Repeats for every same pattern.
7. 00:25:823 (6) - No beat on instruments. Vocal is continuing from before.
8. 00:31:278 (5) - No beat.
9. 00:31:960 (4) - Missing beat on white tick, no beat on sliderend. You can change it like this
10. 00:38:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - In this combo, 2 and 3 circles hit weak beats whereas 4th circle hits a strong beat. But the spacing is same with others. You could put emphasis on it by making it more spaced than others.
11. 00:55:056 - 00:55:568 - I would map the beats here but sounds like this has a timing problem. Also I noticed there may be a timing problem here 00:42:272 (1,2,3,4,1) -. At the last note atleast.
12. 01:00:000 -, 01:00:511 - , 01:01:022 - Also I would map here but just personal opinion i guess. Timing issue still persists. (Are you sure that map starts at 00:00:000 ?? I can't find timing really well, I hope someone else helps about this)
13. 01:15:511 (3,4,5,6,7) - Overmap.
14. 01:28:295 (5) - Can be emphasized. 01:36:306 (4) - 01:36:818 (1) -
15. 01:29:829 - Need a beat here. 01:32:556 -
16. 01:35:113 (7) - Slider can end on red tick. Even the piano (or some instrument idk), has a beat at that note. (Nothing continues so you don't need to combine sliders)
    

1. 03:15:000 (1) - About hitsounds, while this needs clap, 03:15:340 (1) - this doesn't.
2. 03:16:363 (1) - Needs whistle.

heyronii wrote:

1. 00:04:772 - Missing a dominant note here, you can change it to reverse slider. ok
2. 00:08:693 - Again here. unlike the previous one this falls in nicely with the vocals
3. 00:14:318 - ^^ ^^
4. 00:19:602 (2,3,4) - 2 can be slider that ends on red tick, and i think you mapped vocals here and there's no beat on 4's beginning? Could put a circle on the end only. yes it's mapped to vocals
5. 00:21:818 (1,2) - Sliderend is more dominant than circle. Also missing beat on slider's red tick. This repeats for every same pattern. mapping it to fall in line with the kicks makes some parts here play weird, while further ahead it is indeed mapped like this i prefer to have it follow vocals more
6. 00:22:500 (3) - Dominant beat on sliderend. Repeats for every same pattern. ^
7. 00:25:823 (6) - No beat on instruments. Vocal is continuing from before. the triple should take care of that fine, and it's just for extra difficulty
8. 00:31:278 (5) - No beat. more extra difficulty, it's not hitsounded strongly anyway
9. 00:31:960 (4) - Missing beat on white tick, no beat on sliderend. You can change it like this The kick is on the blue tick so I dont see an issue
10. 00:38:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - In this combo, 2 and 3 circles hit weak beats whereas 4th circle hits a strong beat. But the spacing is same with others. You could put emphasis on it by making it more spaced than others. that would look odd in my opinion
11. 00:55:056 - 00:55:568 - I would map the beats here but sounds like this has a timing problem. Also I noticed there may be a timing problem here 00:42:272 (1,2,3,4,1) -. At the last note atleast. seems to me like the vocals just slow down. changed the timing a bit around that part so it should be good now
12. 01:00:000 -, 01:00:511 - , 01:01:022 - Also I would map here but just personal opinion i guess. Timing issue still persists. (Are you sure that map starts at 00:00:000 ?? I can't find timing really well, I hope someone else helps about this)
    

1. 03:15:000 (1) - About hitsounds, while this needs clap, 03:15:340 (1) - this doesn't. fixed
2. 03:16:363 (1) - Needs whistle. fixed

heyronii wrote:

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1. 01:00:000 -, 01:00:511 - , 01:01:022 - Also I would map here but just personal opinion i guess. Timing issue still persists. (Are you sure that map starts at 00:00:000 ?? I can't find timing really well, I hope someone else helps about this)
   I think those 3 notes are better left unmapped since they repeat over all break sections so mapping them once would feel inconsistent. Regarding the timing: Offset at 0 plays fine but I'll look for a timing check just in case.
2. 01:15:511 (3,4,5,6,7) - Overmap.
   Changed.
3. 01:28:295 (5) - Can be emphasized.
   Changed spacing between 3 & 4 a bit so it plays better.
4. 01:36:306 (4) - 01:36:818 (1) -
   I think these two are fine. There's not much emphasis on those beats in the song itself and increasing the spacing would be a bit awkward unless I change the entire pattern.
5. 01:29:829 - Need a beat here. 01:32:556 -
   Fixed all occurences.
6. 01:35:113 (7) - Slider can end on red tick. Even the piano (or some instrument idk), has a beat at that note. (Nothing continues so you don't need to combine sliders)
   Same as above, fixed.
   

The storyboard is really great though.

Shyotamaze wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue

General

1. OD8.5 seems a bit too much for that star rating, I'd suggest OD8 at max
   I figured it shouldn't be a problem since the the rhythm and patterns are easy to follow but OD8.5 really is a tad too much for this difficulty, changed to OD7.5.
2. Slider tick rate 2 is unnecessary imo, 1 is enough
   Having mixed feelings about this but I suppose slider ticks aren't that noticable, changed to 1 for now.
3. Try to keep your NCing consistent through the map: NC every big white tick unless there is a SV change
4. About the storyboard: You could change the colour of the lyrics because right now they are too similar to the "circle" sprites things and it's kinda hard to read the lyrics sometimes (for example 02:55:482 )
   I'll look into that, I've got several solutions in mind but I'm not exactly a fan of any
   also some lyrics are offscreen so try to recheck them in 800x600 resolution + letterboxing
   I never considered checking in 800x600, thanks for pointing that out! Will fix asap

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1. 01:28:636 (1,2) - For aesthetics purposes you could make the shapes consistent, same for 02:40:227 (5,6) -
   Done~
2. 01:35:113 (7,1) - Why is the spacing so low suddenly?
   I was a bit hasty in one of my earlier fixes, done
3. 01:39:545 (1,2,3) - The spacing between 01:39:715 (2,3) - should be bigger than the spacing between 01:39:545 (1,2) - because 01:39:886 (3) - has a stronger sound
   Makes sense, fixed
4. 01:47:727 (1) - You NCed but the combo colour is the same as the previous combo? wtf it's the first time that I see this haha did you edit something in the notepad? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7165956 (if you did edit something in the notepad you should be aware that it's unrankable)
   I.... have no idea how that happened I didn't edit the .osu so this must be some evil woodoo magic. Fixed!
5. Overmapped, there is no sound here in the music:
   02:55:142 (3) - I feel like I can hear a faint cymbal here, also would prefer to keep it for the sake of complexity, having just 1/2 beats in this section would feel plain.
   02:59:403 (5) - ^
   02:57:528 (2) - Fixed
   03:59:573 (6) - Fixed
6. 02:56:420 (3,4) - Why not just stack them? It's kinda confusing to play /read right now
   Done~
7. 05:48:750 (1) - NCs are unnecessary here
   NC terminated

Good luck! (awesome song btw)

Shyotamaze wrote:

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1. 01:28:636 (1,2) - For aesthetics purposes you could make the shapes consistent, same for 02:40:227 (5,6) - 04:01:363 (1,3,5) - sure
2. 02:00:000 (1) - The spacing should be bigger to emphasize that sound (you even put a finish) so maybe CTRL+G? modified spacing a tiny bit
3. 02:03:238 You should add a note here to fit the music better, it feels really empty and awkward without it ok
4. 02:21:818 (1) - CTRL+G to emphasize better yeah why not
5. 02:30:852 (3) - Overmapped, there is no sound here in the music, same for 02:31:363 (1) - 02:48:494 (6,8) - 02:51:562 (4,6) - 02:53:437 (2) - 02:55:142 fixed first pattern a bit, second one will stay (it's a dnb song)(3) - 02:57:528 (2) - 02:59:403 (5) - 03:10:482 (6) - 03:59:573 (6) - 04:05:028 (8) - 04:07:755 (6) - 04:15:937 (6) - (There are probably more but I'm too lazy to point them out) dnb mep :< also i like streams
6. 02:32:215 (1) - You should put that note here 02:32:045 instead since the piano sound is way stronger than the vocals that are becoming more quiet answered above
7. 03:15:340 (1,1) - NCs are unnecessary here, same for 05:48:750 (1) - 05:52:500 (1) - fixed soem NCs all over
8. 05:57:954 (1,1) - Remove NCs and put it here 05:58:636 (3) - instead ^

1. 01:06:818 (1,2,3,4) - In this section other patterns like 01:05:454 (1,2,3) - 01:08:181 (1,2,3,4,1) - establish a circular flow that frequently reverses. I advise you make 01:07:329 (2,3,4) follow 1's circular flow and make 4 curve into 5. example
2. 01:12:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ etc.
3. 01:23:522 (2,3) - Again, an issue with cirular flow. 01:21:818 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - these all follow the same circular flow, but 01:23:863 (3) reverses it even though the song's intensity is still unoformly building up. I suggest you make 3 and 4 follow the rest of the section's circular flow
4. 01:31:704 (3) - I suggest you flip this vertically to make the slider body reflect the general flow. To better lead the player into 4 I also suggest you tilt it slightly, like so
5. 01:32:556 (7,1) - I suggest you bring 7 closer to 1 after Ctrl+Ging it. I felt the transition from the jump into the slider was unnecessarely awkward
6. More in general, take the above as a guideline to revisit the flow taking more into account circular flow and when/where the song supports a reverse
7. 02:48:238 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This point in the kiai is not particularly intense compared to the rest of the section and the song itself does not support a stream like that so overmapping to emphasize is not viable here. I suggest you replace this with any combination of objects that follow the rhythm like the rest of the section.
8. 02:51:477 (3,4,5,6,1) - 03:10:227 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^
9. 02:59:147 (2,3,4,5,6) - This instead is a good example of how to incorporate a stream into the kiai, since there is clearly a base to support it in the song
10. This section however is rather inconsistent in either mapping or ignoring the 5 note bursts that often occur in the song. Whether they were mapper or ignored seemed arbitrary to me, if however there is a concept behind it, please do explain
11. 03:15:340 (1,2,1) - To ease readability, remove NCs from 1s and NC on 2, also to further emphasize the hitfinal
12. The second section and kiai should be fixed according to the guidelines provided above (concerning flow and streams), as well as the last part

Mombei wrote:

Hi, from #modreqs

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1. 01:06:818 (1,2,3,4) - In this section other patterns like 01:05:454 (1,2,3) - 01:08:181 (1,2,3,4,1) - establish a circular flow that frequently reverses. I advise you make 01:07:329 (2,3,4) follow 1's circular flow and make 4 curve into 5. example
   Done, I figured the slider already flows fine into the following note but curving it out a bit doesn't hurt
2. 01:12:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ etc.
   ^
3. 01:23:522 (2,3) - Again, an issue with cirular flow. 01:21:818 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - these all follow the same circular flow, but 01:23:863 (3) reverses it even though the song's intensity is still unoformly building up. I suggest you make 3 and 4 follow the rest of the section's circular flow
   Changed the slider position a bit, should be fine now
4. 01:31:704 (3) - I suggest you flip this vertically to make the slider body reflect the general flow. To better lead the player into 4 I also suggest you tilt it slightly, like so
   Done
5. 01:32:556 (7,1) - I suggest you bring 7 closer to 1 after Ctrl+Ging it. I felt the transition from the jump into the slider was unnecessarely awkward
   Changed the entire pattern to better transition into the slider while keeping the same rotation
6. More in general, take the above as a guideline to revisit the flow taking more into account circular flow and when/where the song supports a reverse
   I'd prefer to avoid making too many circular flow movements throughout the entire map, since repetitive motion on such long maps can get slightly boring pretty fast. Granted, I fixed most occurrences of bad flow but but keeping some sections more "snappy" keeps it a bit more interesting I believe.
7. 02:59:147 (2,3,4,5,6) - This instead is a good example of how to incorporate a stream into the kiai, since there is clearly a base to support it in the song
   Thanks :3
8. This section however is rather inconsistent in either mapping or ignoring the 5 note bursts that often occur in the song. Whether they were mapper or ignored seemed arbitrary to me, if however there is a concept behind it, please do explain
   All sections were mapped by 2 different people with 2 different mapping styles and preferences so it's not unusual for the map to suddenly change on certain points.
9. The second section and kiai should be fixed according to the guidelines provided above (concerning flow and streams), as well as the last part
   Fixed all sections with unintended changes in flow.

There's really no use in pointing out every single instance of flawed rhythm or circular flow, you seem like experienced enough mappers to fix the whole thing once you understand where the problem essentially is.

Really like the map overall, I hope it makes it to ranked

I hope I was of use. Good Luck!

Mombei wrote:

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1. 02:48:238 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This point in the kiai is not particularly intense compared to the rest of the section and the song itself does not support a stream like that so overmapping to emphasize is not viable here. I suggest you replace this with any combination of objects that follow the rhythm like the rest of the section. modified slightly
2. 02:51:477 (3,4,5,6,1) - 03:10:227 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ these are only short streams and not as overpowering as the other one
3. This section however is rather inconsistent in either mapping or ignoring the 5 note bursts that often occur in the song. Whether they were mapper or ignored seemed arbitrary to me, if however there is a concept behind it, please do explain not sure whose part you're referring to, but I answered the short streams above
4. 03:15:340 (1,2,1) - To ease readability, remove NCs from 1s and NC on 2, also to further emphasize the hitfinal right
5. The second section and kiai should be fixed according to the guidelines provided above (concerning flow and streams), as well as the last part ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kroytz wrote:

Really nice map~!

-Mo- wrote:

-Mo-d Queue

General
- Your banner doesn't work with people who have osu!direct.
I shall bug our Banner Technician to fix it! o7
- 1920x1080 is the maximum dimensions allowed for SB sprites. flare.jpg is 2000x2000.
Not sure how I missed that. Downsized to 1000x1000 and doubled sprite scaling in the SB.
- Unused files:
sb\featherD.png Removed
sb\lyrics\300c.png Removed
sb\lyrics\300d.png Removed

- 03:16:704 - 05:05:539 - 20 seconnds for a break is pretty long and are pretty boring in my opinion. You could map parts of it with slow sliders or spinners maybe.
Will address this when I find a bit more time, placed 2 spinners for now but I'm not exactly a fan of those, especially in quiet sections of the song.
- 00:00:000 - Make it so both your inherited and uninherited points are using the same sound samples so it doesn't break anything. Currently the red is using the default soft while the green is using the custom soft.
Fixed

Storyboard
- 04:18:750 - The lyrics say "mou, もう" at this point so I would consider adjusting your lyrics as such.
Not sure how I missed that, fixed
- 04:36:818 - It's hard to see "Kimi wa, 君は" so high up in the screen there, so I guess move it? It looks like a mistake to me though.
Lyrics were positioned using a randomly generating coordinate algorithm so it appearing up there wasn't exactly intended. Shortened range to spawn closer to the screen center.
- 05:05:795 - Any reason for not SBing the words "Tell me"?
The male vocalist adds a lot of shorter lines throughout the song, most of which seemed a bit off so I wasn't sure how to deal with those. Added this and a couple "Yeah"s
- 06:03:579 - Maybe consider moving the "te, て" to this point since that's where that sound is.
My mistake again, fixed!

Very nice SB though. Thank you! I would also like to thank you for actually modding the SB too and pointing out inconsistencies/errors. A lot of people seem to skip that which leaves me wondering if I made any mistakes.




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- 01:21:477 (4,5,1) - Seems kinda odd to have 4-5 be larger spacing than 5-1 if you listen to the emphasis of those beats.
Fixed
- 01:28:977 (2) - Maybe consider a Ctrl+G so that the spacing 1-2 isn't so short and that it continues circular flow? I'd say smoother flow and larger spacing suits better.
Good idea! Changed. Also changed following pattern to flow better.
- 01:29:488 (4,5,6) - Similar point to before, I feel having 4-5 be larger spacing compared to 5-6 would be better to emphasise the click.
Fixed
- 01:30:511 (2) - Maybe stack this ontop of 01:31:022 (4) so that there's some better spacing emphasis through this combo?
Looks a bit weird but it's definitely better than before. Will use this unless I come up with something better
- 01:35:113 (7) - Similar thing again. Fancy patterning, I'll give you that, but I would avoid making 6-7 have small spacing, especially after you emphasised 3 and 5.
Fixed
- 01:36:818 (1) -

I don't know how this happened, but erm... fix it.

I swear these combo color ninjas keep sabotaging my map . This has happened before out of nowhere.
- 01:42:784 (3,4,5) - Minor thing, the stack looks like it messed up.
You're correct, fixed
- 01:43:636 (1,2) - I'd probably increase the spacing of these to emphasise the (synth? piano?) sound.
Fixed
- 01:45:000 (5) - NC here for consistency.
Added
- 01:45:852 (10,11) - Stacking these seems to be inconsistent with how you mapped these sounds, and doesn't really emphasise the kick and click sounds right in my opinion.
Changed pattern a bit to deal with this and another emphasis error.
- 02:40:227 (5,6) - Minor thing, you could pair these and make them the same shape so it looks neater.
Sounds good, done
- 02:58:125 - Instead of missing the kick sound with the 1/1 slider, you could make 02:57:954 (3) a reverse to map it instead.
Changed pattern to play better, also changed slider into a return slider
- 02:59:659 - I don't think mapping the kick to a passive slider end is a good idea given that all other clicks have been on an active beat so far.
Fair point, replaced slider with 2 spaced notes
- 03:02:556 (6,1) - Spacing emphasis thing, maybe move this further apart.
Done
- 03:39:034 (5,6) - As before, I would unstack these to emphasise the kick and click sounds better.
Changed entire pattern to follow proper emphasis (I didn't like the previous one either way)
Spacing emphasis things:
03:54:375 (6,1) - Fixed
04:32:386 (8,9,1) - ^
04:34:772 (5,6) - Not my part, I have no power here
05:32:215 (3,1) - Moved 1 a bit further away but it feels weird now. Will probably change again later
06:13:636 (1,2) - Fixed, and stacked the following triplet to avoid awkward flow
06:18:409 (4,5,6) - Fixed
06:36:988 (2,3) - ^
06:45:000 (1,2,3) - ^
- 04:45:000 (1) - I would adjust the curve of this so it's not so sharp so that it looks a little smoother.

Example

That looks better indeed, changed
- 06:44:318 (3,4) - I would probably pair these and make these the same shape too.
Changed

Good luck.

Kawa wrote:

A lot of people seem to skip that which leaves me wondering if I made any mistakes.

-Mo- wrote:

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- Your banner doesn't work with people who have osu!direct.I have been bugged by our Executive Map Producer to fix this o7

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Hathz That's me
- 00:20:454 (5,1,2) - This stacking looks kinda weird to me in my opinion. I'd try to fix this so that it stacks as normal. Moved it slightly so it's stacked in a straight line, other than that I prefer it to be stacked this way similar to 00:40:909 (1,1,1,1)
- 01:54:204 (5) - Maybe Ctrl+G or rotate this around since this is a fairly different sound to 01:53:863 (4) so it's probably better if the flow is different too. Edited slightly
- 01:55:568 (5,2) - Minor off stack thing if you care about that. Fixed
- 02:12:784 (3,4,5) - Poor spacing emphasis in my opinion, the click sound is stronger than the others so I would expect 4-5 to have larger spacing. However the spacing on 02:13:295 (5,1) is larger afterwards which has more impact in the music so I prefer to emphasize that one instead of a random kick
- 02:18:409 (3,4) - I'm not sure if the music calls for continuing with increasing the spacing in my opinion. It creates a nice back-and-forth pattern and kind of a build-up for the kick on 02:19:090 (1)
- 02:54:034 (1) - I would space this further away to emphasise the kick sound personally. Changed the pattern a bit
- 03:15:170 (2,1) - Personally I would prefer these as circles to make triples, but its up to you. Sliders are cool
- 04:10:568 (7,8,1) - 04:55:227 (3,4,5) - 05:01:875 (2,3,4,1) - 06:21:477 (5,1) - Spacing emphasis thing. Right
- 06:22:500 (4,5,6) - I don't think I like having such a linear flow for these beats, given that in most other places angles are used to emphasise these beats better. Fair point, edited slightly
- 07:04:431 (2,1) - This is poor polarity sine you would normally expect the timing to be a consistent 1/2 rhythm when you suddenly offset this. A potential fix could be making 07:04:431 (2) a slider? I'm gonna leave it for now, there is a NC on the circle to hint at this
- 04:34:772 (5,6) - This one seems alright to me

-Mo- wrote:

Kawa wrote:

A lot of people seem to skip that which leaves me wondering if I made any mistakes.

Probably because storyboarding is a lot more lenient in terms of creativity, so most people just assume it's fine.
I can't deny that

Randomly generating the position of the lyrics is interesting to say the least. Something as structured as lyrics for a song I would personally give a proper structure to, but this seems to work quite well.
Following a strict structure was my intention at first, but all attempts turned rather awkward due to varying length and duration of the lyrics lines, so I went with a more random approach that "follows the flying orbs around"

Also I think you forgot to remove もう from the line 04:19:090.
Right you are! This is what happens when I try to be productive at 2 AM

06:31:704 - And I think this is supposed to be "僕は"?
Changed~
And it may need repeating at 06:42:613 - 06:54:731 - 07:04:772 -
Added all

I'm always happy to support anyone that's doing a storyboard.
I'm glad to hear that!

Arbane wrote:

Hello! Bad mod from my queue Any kind of mod is helpful! o/

01:15:596 (4,5) - Maybe change the slidershape here a bit and move the circle so it doesn't overlap. Kinda like this https://puu.sh/ujMad/a4a799f078.jpg
Changed the curve and moved 5

01:29:318 (3,4,5,6,1) - This flows very badly. Maybe do something like this instead https://puu.sh/ujMjG/5f94d8bab2.jpg
I think the way it was before is fine but I can try this too, changed for now

01:37:159 (3,4) - There's a lot of waiting inbetween the kickslider and the stack which can be pretty uncomfortable to play. Consider doing something like this instead https://puu.sh/ujMJa/4ce291b840.jpg or maybe even this https://puu.sh/ujMNj/d9eb4c8b2f.jpg
The first example wouldn't work because the 3 slider ends on a strong beat which should be clicked and not held in this case.
The second example feels a bit overmapped because there's no distinct sound on 5's sliderend.
Instead, I increased the spacing a bit between the kickslider and the following stream. That should reduce the "waiting" between the objects and make it more comfortable.


02:32:727 (1) - I this supposed to not overlap?
Looks like the slider somehow moved by itself, fixed

02:32:727 - A lot of this kiai section flows badly (Some examples being this
02:34:090 (1,2) - Curved 1 and moved 2 more in-line
02:56:250 (2,3,4,5,6) - Moved 3, 4 and 5 a bit to flow better
Try following along with the map in the editor and look for movement that feels clunky or abnormal to play and try fixing it.
I usually do that but a lot of patterns that seem odd to other people feel fine to me...

04:21:818 - It might just be me being a dumbass because of the fact that i am modding this late at night and i am very tired but i think the overall spacing during the first kiai section was larger. If it was then fix it ez if i'm wrong don't give me kudosu i don't deserve it f**k
You're not wrong, the first kiai had lower spacing than the rest at first so I had to buff it a bit. But I may have gone a bit too far, resulting in this. Reduced the spacing in some sections slightly and fixed some fugly sliders.

06:17:045 (4,5,6,7) - This flows pretty badly.
Same as 01:29:318 (3,4,5,6,1) - it feels normal to me. Changed it to be a bit more snappy.

06:17:556 (7,1) - Needs larger spacing.
Covered above

06:20:795 (1,2) - I've mentioned this before. there's waiting inbetween the kickslider and blah blah blah its not comfy to play.
Same as 01:37:159 (3,4) - increased spacing between the objects.

06:42:613 (3,4) - ^
^

TIL modding dnb is hard.

Sick storyboard btw. Thanks~

Arbane wrote:

Endless

00:34:602 (2,3,4) - This flows pretty badly. It seems fine to me

00:39:545 (1,2,3,4) - I think the spacing here is a bit too large. Consider nerfing it slightly. Muh symmetry!

02:16:363 (1) - I think this jump should be larger to put more emphasis on the hitfinish. Fair enough

02:18:068 (2) - Ctrl - G Will keep for now

02:18:750 (4) - ^ ^

04:08:522 (2,3) - I think the spacing here is a bit too large. Muh symmetry tho!

04:41:590 (3) - Ctrl - G Why? It plays fine like this

04:41:931 - ^ ^

06:56:250 (2,3,4) - Spacing here is too large. It looks cool tho

06:57:954 (3) - Don't like how you ignored a kick here. Fixed

Trynna wrote:

daoko is my gurl bae

1. 00:02:727 (1,4) - aesthetics hurts, maybe you would like to just put the middle of 00:03:750 (4) - overlapping the 00:02:727 (1) - slider tail, just to avoid the eyes bleed example thing sure
2. 00:04:090 (5,6) - when you consider 00:04:261 - and 00:04:602 - being pretty similar, you might want to switch them. Indeed this is triggering me, mainly cuz 00:04:090 (5,6,7,8) - looks way too generic or something and looks like following nothing when the vocal calls for something different however, on 00:04:431 (6) there is a clap which I don't want to map with a slider-end, and in general I think this follows the song okay
3. 00:15:000 (1) - maybe would be nic to avoid this NC since you were following it at every 2 [big white ticks] (yea i hate to say this) on the calm part. Examples: 00:04:090 (5) - 00:06:818 (4) - etc. The same goes to 00:17:727 (1) - oops missed that
4. 00:26:931 (5) - i'd decrease the y value by 1 just to make the 00:26:761 (4) - approach get into the middle of the slider and stuff, something like 16 | 204 should work, but it's just way too nazi, up to you Well I mean, whatever
5. 00:28:636 (1,2) - as i pointed before, i'd switch them, the notes here are not following the vocal well, you already did it on patterns like these 00:26:250 (2,3) - too, just pointing out to give examples lol But again the drum clap would end up on the slider-end
6. 01:51:818 (1,2) - i really dislike the way these are so close from each other, you know, player will not get at the slider tail and then come back to this circle, the player will come close to the slider tail and then hit the circle, which makes it a bit weird I'm not sure I agree on that, but mended the blanket a bit anyway~
7. 02:21:818 (1,2,3) - the spacing difference and the overlap on 02:21:306 (5) - (editor only, not applied to gameplay) makes it weird aesthetically, maybe if you do something like this it can be at the middle of 02:21:306 (5,7) - and with the same spacing Fixed that part a bit
8. 02:23:863 - i kinda dislike avoiding this sound, is just strong enough Fixed... something? .3.
9. 02:49:772 (1) - why nc? same to 02:51:818 (1) - and 02:54:034 (1) - oops? (x
10. 05:04:090 (1,2,1,2) - just a suggestion but maybe this would be cool since 05:04:602 (2) - looks pretty random actually Sure that looks better

Trynna wrote:

Kawa's response:

1. 01:26:250 (1) - is this really necessary? like, you were doing 4 combo on the slider section and on the 1/2 jumps section, but they actually looks like "oh ok, it can be splitted to create a better pattern and stuff" but the stream really looks like something homogeneous
   Removed NC
2. 01:34:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this looks just mess. making a cool and clean pattern like this isn't that hard, just copy the first 2 circles and then ctrl shit r rotate by 120º. Actually 01:34:431 (3,4,5,6) - looks almost the same thing
   Easier way would be just using CTRL + Shift + D with 6 points (which is what I did to fix it now)
   but 01:34:090 (1,2) - is just a pain to see, it actually makes the pattern weird and linear, which is not a gameplay problem since the notes are close, but still
   Stacked 01:34:005 (5,1) - on the sliderend and changed the following pattern to emphasize beats with larger spacing, which in turn removes the linear movement

Net0 wrote:

Normal mod from my queue

[General]

1. You probably want to mute the sliders-slide or make them sound lower. Personal opinion here, but they stand out a lot in some points of the song; like the first main verse 00:21:818 - ~
   Reduced the volume of soft-sliderslide.wav, that should do the trick
   

[ Endless ]

1. Rotate this slider 01:38:863 (4) – “-15º” and the next slider 01:39:204 (5) – “+15º” to both avoid this overlap 01:38:181 (1,4) – and improve the pattern visual of this slider 01:39:204 (5) – in relation with the next two circles 01:39:545 (1,2) -
   Good idea, did exactly that! (That overlap was bugging me anyways, not sure why I didn't change it sooner...)

Really cool map. The design it’s simple but really well done and consistent which works great with the music. Storyboard is really cool as well. I wish good luck with this set and hope that you can find a BN soon since there isn’t much to question about this map choices.
Thank you! Quite a lot of work has been put into it ^^; I'd prefer to get a couple more mods before I start chasing after BNs, I always feel like something could still be improved.

Lumario wrote:

Nice Storyboard (^-^)

Warpyc wrote:

ayy from queue

Gotta say this storyboard is really something else, easily rivals some of the best ones I know like EOS and Sweet Dreams. Outright amazing
Thank you! But I'm nowhere near the level of all those amazing storyboarders ^^; I still have a lot left to learn...

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  Hantz Hmmm... 🤔

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Kawa


01:15:596 (4) - This slider is a bit odd, it feels pretty weird to play and you're missing a piano note at 01:15:681 - or whatever that sound is
Removed the kinda overmapped notes & slider and just placed a hitcircle there now so it follows the 3 piano notes or whatever that sound is

01:25:909 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - What is up with the placement of this stream, following the flow it should be positioned somewhere on the right side. right now it's pretty much a 90-degree angle that also decreases in spacing, feels very off. I'd change it to something like this https://puu.sh/uEkmt/b24a5ef58e.png
Good point. Rotated stream by 180° and moved it to start at the the star pattern (similar to your suggestion)

02:38:693 (2,3,4,5,6) - I've noticed this quite a bit actually, sometimes it feels like the spacing is really big between these and sometimes really small. Not sure if it's worth trying to normalise the spacing but just an observation
I felt like emphasizing the kicks and snares in the song with higher spacing between notes. The spacing between all them was the same and plain at first until I learned about more proper beat emphasis

04:32:386 (8,9) - Spacing is way too low between these two considering how big it is between 04:32:215 (7,8) -
You're right, moved both notes a bit to decrease the 7->8 jump and increase the 8->9 one. Should be better now

04:48:238 (3,4) - shouldn't these be stacked on top of 04:48:409 (5) - feels very inconsistent otherwise
Sounds fair, stacked 3,4 on top of 5.

Good luck with the map, love the storyboard!
also excuse me if I placed suggestions on the wrong person too lazy to double check
All good here! o7

Curisu wrote:

m-flo are bringing me back some of those old memories
[Storyboard]
02:05:454 - いっせーの説明不足 嘯く
02:17:727 - 点と点繋いで線
02:28:295 - 愛の投資サイコロに任せ (should be written in Katakana)
03:42:272 - 僕は ソフト ハード
03:46:363 - ^

Kawa wrote:

Fixed! Thank you so much for checking! (I didn't know who to ask...)
Hopefully I didn't mess up something else

Warpyc wrote:

SPOILER

• 
  Hantz wat
  
  
  00:06:818 (4) - I would curve this slightly and then ctrl+j 00:07:329 (6) - that just feels smoother and looks better imo. Something like this https://puu.sh/uEj0q/9b5f4bdc18.png sure
  
  00:08:181 (1,2) - I feel like these two sliders represent two very different sounds but look the same, from looking how you mapped it before I'd try to curve 00:08:693 (2) - slightly so it feels a bit softer sure
  
  00:13:636 (1,2) - ^ symmetry is nice and all but doesn't really feel right suuuure
  
  00:21:136 (2,3) - I would lower the hitsounds on the sliderends slightly sounds a bit weird otherwise yeah
  
  00:25:227 (3,4) - spacing between these feels kind of odd in this section feels like you have to slow down a lot to hit it, I'm not quite sure why though it might be the shallow angle edited slightly?
  
  00:31:960 (4) - wouldn't it play better if you remove it and just placed a triple here like this https://puu.sh/uEjAP/1492d38d3d.png no, i think it's fine
  
  00:32:556 (7,1) - why so low spacing? Honestly, it feels like you could ctrl+g the whole slider at 00:32:727 (1) - and it would be fine edited the part slightly, spacing still low (x
  
  00:42:975 (3) - I think you should snap this to the white tick since you did it over at 00:53:863 (1) - the thing is, I moved it because it wasn't in line with the vocals, she like slows down or something. will leave it like this for now unless some BN complains
  
  01:54:545 (1,3) - nazi but just mirror 01:54:545 (1) - and palce it on 01:55:056 (3) - just like you did at 01:55:568 (5,1) - uhm a bit poorly worded? not quite sure what you meant, but changed it a bit to be symmetrical
  
  02:03:409 (3) - to me sounds like the vocals starts at 02:03:323 - they do but i tried mapping to it and it feels weird to play, i prefer to just have it mapped to the track
  
  02:06:136 (2) - ctrl+j :thinking: i guess
  
  02:30:681 (2,3,4,5) - this just doesn't follow the vocal very well at all sounds like it's quite off, idk what I'd do here but vocals definitely aren't snapped accurately as i said before the vocals are a bit weirdly timed, but not sure what exactly to do with this for now. will leave it as it is because it plays okay imo
  
  03:15:681 (2,3,4,5,1) - Feels pretty messy, overlaps are forced 03:15:852 (3,4) - should have larger spacing between them 03:16:193 (5) - doesn't have a strong beat on it so I'd make it lower spacing edited spacing slightly
  
  04:12:045 (1) - snapping is off and it makes it sound really weird it's mapped to the vocals, seems okay to me
  
  04:17:727 (1) - you should probably overlap it with the sliderend of 04:17:386 (4) - for consistency yeah oops
  
  04:18:750 (4,5) - either make spacing between them bigger or extend 04:18:750 (4) - to the blue tick i don't think it's necessary.
  
  05:52:500 (1,2) - is the exact same sound/rhythm as 05:51:477 (4,1,2) - yet mapped entierly different fixed
  
  06:08:181 (1,2) - not quite sure why you went with mapping it in this way since rn the spacing between these notes are much smaller than they are between 06:08:352 (2,3) - and at least from what I hear they're the same importance in the music. I think some kind of polygon pattern would work fine here, something similar to this 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - imo symmetry also implies equal importance
  
  06:55:909 (1,2) - Feels very weird, I'd ctrl+g the second slider sure
  
  06:56:590 (3,4) - there sliders also feel a bit weird I'd decrease spacing and once again ctrl+g the second slider i like it this way :3
  
  07:04:431 (2,1,2) - this pause feels odd, I'd probably make 07:04:431 (2) - into a slider to fix it sure

1. Muting normal sliderslide?

1. Sorry if I offended you, but tbh spacing could be improved to me cuz 1) Lack of consistency, which can not be explained as "random style" imo, while the song itself is having some consistentcy within every single section and 2) Seems not having a clear logic which made me a little bit worried.
   I would pointing out some of it as examples.
2. And due to this, the map is not having a clear structure which limited the impression it brings to player.

1. 00:03:238 (2,3) - Personally it would be fine to overlap it since you have 00:00:511 (2,3)
2. 00:03:579 (3) - would prefer removed for consistency (00:02:215 etc.)
3. 00:04:090 (5,6,7) - following vocal it would be better by making it hitable instead of put it on slider end - https://puu.sh/uLal0/58c3c39aca.png
4. 00:06:818 (4,5) - ^ https://puu.sh/uLart/96d7cf4b96.png not gonna repeating similar pattern within this section
5. 00:08:181 (1,2,3) - Here comes a very harsh spacing changes, a very large jump (comparing to other spacing within the section) while the music itself do not have a harsh change to support it (The music here is almost as same as 00:02:727).
6. 00:20:454 (5,1,2) - Maybe they do not blanket well with 00:20:454 (5,1) and 00:19:943 (3,4) having different distance while 00:20:454 (5,2) are completely overlapped.
7. 00:21:818 (1,2,3) - Uneven spacing. With 00:22:500 (3) should not mean to be emphasized, this small distance change would be illegitimate
8. 00:25:227 (3,4,5) - ^ tho this time 00:25:568 (4) could be emphasized(with snare)
9. 00:25:738 (5,6,1) - the vocal rhythm issue also appears here
10. 00:32:386 (6,7,1) - Spacing again. Emphasizing 00:32:556 (7) may not be a very good idea from my own perspective while a shorter distance between 00:32:556 (7,1) seems weird considering 1 on downbeat. Those minor spacing issue keeps appearing which would be a potential problem in further mapping.
11. 00:33:238 (2,3,4,5) - apparently you are making a square by these notes but maybe they do not fit the music and not flow - 00:33:579 (4) seems not a very good timing to make an anti-flow and should exchange position with 5. However 00:33:238 (2,3) had a larger distance which is not that suitable, and you are having minor spacing issues again on 00:32:727 (1,2,3) orz
12. 00:38:863 (3) - https://puu.sh/uLNRC/cf9e127506.png
13. 00:42:975 (3,4) - Unsnapped?

1. 01:09:545 (1) - Not consistent with 01:05:965 (2) etc. on the shape of slider.
2. 01:15:340 (2,3,4) - hmm why uneven distance
3. 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4) - not a very good flow tbh especially the sharp angle on 01:24:204 (4,1,2)
4. 01:29:318 (3,4,5,6) - ^
5. 01:39:545 (1,2,3) - distance
6. 02:12:784 (3) - ctrl+g flow
7. 02:19:090 (1,3) - They are not symmetric/in same y axis (conflict with 02:16:363 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4))
8. 02:32:215 - You could heard vocal singing "Da" on this point so maybe it's not a good idea to use 1 beat long slider

Curisu wrote:

Knock knock
Who's there?

Error
Major Issue
Major Suggestion
Minor Suggestion

[General]

1. Muting normal sliderslide?
   There's no normal-sliderslide in the beatmap to begin with... Unless you mean actually adding a muted one. <- *

[Overall]

1. Sorry if I offended you, but tbh spacing could be improved to me cuz 1) Lack of consistency, which can not be explained as "random style" imo, while the song itself is having some consistentcy within every single section and 2) Seems not having a clear logic which made me a little bit worried.
   I would pointing out some of it as examples.
2. And due to this, the map is not having a clear structure which limited the impression it brings to player.
   I'm not sure which parts this applies to since the the mapping styles change pretty often <- *

[Kawa]

1. 01:09:545 (1) - Not consistent with 01:05:965 (2) etc. on the shape of slider.
   I guess those sharp sliders did look pretty bad... Changed shape to regular curve on 01:09:545 (1) - and 01:20:454 (1) -
2. 01:15:340 (2,3,4) - hmm why uneven distance
   Oops, evened out spacing
3. 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4) - not a very good flow tbh especially the sharp angle on 01:24:204 (4,1,2)
   Spread out the notes a bit and moved slightly, should be better now and the angle isn't that sharp anymore
4. 01:29:318 (3,4,5,6) - ^
   Changed pattern on the 4 notes from weird zigzag to circluar
5. 01:39:545 (1,2,3) - distance
   Not sure I understand. There's a snare on 01:39:886 (3) - so I previously increased the spacing between 01:39:715 (2,3) - and kept it smaller between 01:39:545 (1,2) - to emphasize it. <- *
   
   Also readded:
   

   Net0 wrote:

   1. Rotate this slider 01:38:863 (4) – “-15º” and the next slider 01:39:204 (5) – “+15º” to both avoid this overlap 01:38:181 (1,4) – and improve the pattern visual of this slider 01:39:204 (5) – in relation with the next two circles 01:39:545 (1,2) -

   because this got reverted somewhere midway for some reason....... There's ninjas after me, I swear
   
   These three points aren't my parts, I'm afraid ^^; (Paging Mr Hathz)
6. 02:12:784 (3) - ctrl+g flow
7. 02:19:090 (1,3) - They are not symmetric/in same y axis (conflict with 02:16:363 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4))
8. 02:32:215 - You could heard vocal singing "Da" on this point so maybe it's not a good idea to use 1 beat long slider

I think I would stop at 1st chorus because there seems to have enough example to let you understand my idea. It would be my pleasure if you can poke me via in-game PM (Usually @GMT+1 11:00~15:00) when you feel confused about the idea. (Actually I wanted to PM you before I post something here but I haven't seen you these days hmm)
I've been on and off at random times, don't really have a fixed schedule... I'll poke you in-game about all the points marked with a * if I manage to catch you online

No kd for this If you say so

1. maybe silence that sliderslide? it's sounds kinda jarring in a calm song.
   00:08:181 (1) - stack
   00:10:056 (6,7) - ctrl+g rhythm vocals g
   00:20:454 (5) - no beat in song here, 00:20:795 - move sliderhead here? also it's a bit hard to read things there in that section with the overlaps/stacks,
   00:32:386 (6,7) - rather see those as stacks, so it doesn't nullify the bass kick emphasize on 00:31:875 (3,4) -
   02:21:477 (6,7) - ^
   00:35:965 (2) - stack
   03:15:852 (3) - x:337 y:34, better place fr jump i used scale tool
   03:50:795 (2,3) - rather would simplfy it with 1/4, 1/2 for something vague as vocals
   04:37:585 (6,8) - overmapped
2. there are some overlaps through the whole map bothering me tht i cant just fix up with modding like 06:45:000 (1,6) -
   overlaps in the same combo are bad visually would increase quality if you try to avoid those.
   
   
   
   

zev wrote:

1. maybe silence that sliderslide? it's sounds kinda jarring in a calm song.
   I've been hearing this a lot. Added a silent soft-sliderslide.wav and normal-sliderslide.wav. Hopefully this doesn't break any regulations
   03:50:795 (2,3) - rather would simplfy it with 1/4, 1/2 for something vague as vocals
   I'm not really sure I understood what you meant here I replaced the short slider (3) with 2 hitcircles on 1/2 so it should be fine now
2. there are some overlaps through the whole map bothering me tht i cant just fix up with modding like 06:45:000 (1,6) -
   overlaps in the same combo are bad visually would increase quality if you try to avoid those.
   Some slight overlaps are intentional (though I'm sure those are pretty obvious). I fixed the part you mentioned and some others I didn't really notice before, including changing the pattern at 06:52:840 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - a bit to look better. I'll pay more attention to overlaps like these in the future.

bye
o/

zev wrote:

1. maybe silence that sliderslide? it's sounds kinda jarring in a calm song.
   00:08:181 (1) - stack hai
   00:10:056 (6,7) - ctrl+g rhythm vocals g not sure what you mean exactly, this is fine
   00:20:454 (5) - no beat in song here, 00:20:795 - move sliderhead here? also it's a bit hard to read things there in that section with the overlaps/stacks, 'tis matching the vocal
   00:32:386 (6,7) - rather see those as stacks, so it doesn't nullify the bass kick emphasize on 00:31:875 (3,4) - kinda kills the motion then
   02:21:477 (6,7) - ^ ^
   00:35:965 (2) - stack hai
   03:15:852 (3) - x:337 y:34, better place fr jump i used scale tool the jump's way too big then compared to the ones that follow
   04:37:585 (6,8) - overmapped heck yeah

bye
cheers m8

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

big mod

hi im modder c:
im new to mapping im new to modding x d, skip to the bottom of this mod before applying to read why I left a BN worthy check here lol

General

1. There are some SB elements that aren't sized properly. Also, just double check to make sure your BG is jpg and your scrolling / foreground objects are png since they are lossless.
   
   I'll look into this a bit more and ask around but the ranking criteria around storyboard images has been changed a bit since last year so this part is debatable: Criteria from last year and this year for comparison.
   I made sure all the images without transparency are in .jpg while all the images with necessary transparency are in .png (only exception being the flares)
   
2. normal-sliderslide.wav and soft-sliderslide.wav are not 100ms. This causes issues for some soundcards and is an unrankable issue, so replace those sliderslides with this muted sliderslide instead.
   Replaced, thanks a bunch!
3. normal-hitnormal.wav has a delay of over 5ms. I went ahead and cropped an acceptable version for you: https://puu.sh/vQApR/eaffe69c84.mp3
   
   Replaced this aswell, thank you! (For some reason Audacity wanted to add an extra 100ms delay when converting it from .mp3 to .wav so I had to do it with foobar2000, hopefully it didn't mess it up too much)
4. On the storyboard, maybe from 00:20:454 - 00:21:818 - there could be an effect similar to 02:31:363 - where the faded and blurry background slowly comes into focus, reaching an emphasized point on 00:21:818 - ?
   Good idea, I'll try to get it done after I fix the rest c:
5. By the way, 2 years ago I downloaded this map in the midst of a poco maro craze lol.
   I might ask you for your poco maro maps sometime later, I could use some more

Endless

Hathz

1. 04:46:363 (1) - Maybe curve the end of it a bit? like:
   
   stylistic preference, no functionality impact here c:
   Done~ The straight end looked a bit wonky anyways

Kawa

1. 01:21:818 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe you can try something like this?
   
   There are multiple reasons I feel this would be to the benefit of this section. One of which, is because this is actually just before the hardest part in the map:
   
   Second, This much better emphasizes less muted beats on 01:21:818 - 01:22:500 - 01:23:181 - 01:23:863 - with distance gaps and embodies the muted bass beats with softer spacing. The patterning type I showed above would also apply to 01:23:181 (1,2,3,4) - .
   Sounds good. Also makes stuff look nicer so sure! Changed the slider patterns to match your suggestion (there were slight problems with flow at first but it should be fine now...)
2. 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Hardest part in the map, you can refer to the difficulty strains snapshot I linked above. First, I want to say that I actually really really like this jump sequence, I just feel its a bit too over emphasized in contrast with the rest of the map. A few suggestions on what I think could make this better represent the music:
   1. This is a build up, maybe make 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4) - less emphasized, and make 01:25:227 (1,2,3,4) - as emphasized as 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4) - currently is (I'm referring to the distances between circles when I say emphasize here)
   2. This is a foreign thought to 2017 mapping and honestly I like your jump sequence better, but if you wanted to you could embody 01:24:545 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - with obtuse angles instead, something like this:
   
   In any case, doing one or the other would work, but not doing either would still feel overdone.
   This part has been pointed out once or twice before so I guess it really is "a bit" overdone Your suggestions make sense and I decided to go with 1. Reasons being: The buildup with stronger sounds like this (in my opinion) calls for a more snapping movement rather than a single wavy motion.
   It's also more fun to play a jumpy pattern compared to a linear one. Following that, I nerfed and moved the jumps so the spacing now gradually increases in order with the buildup in the song. This pattern also flows much better into the stream following it compared to the previous one so that's a neat addition~
3. 01:30:000 (1) - The aesthetic is a bit cramped near the end of the slider end. one thing that could help free the slider from its cramped look is to place the white anchors more towards the center of the object:
   
   What fixing this will do is make the blankets on 01:30:511 (2,3) - more obvious and better looking, as well as you'll have an easier curve to blanket when adjusting the slider shapes of 01:30:681 (3,4) - .
   Fixed, also moved the slider slightly to the right. The blanket between 01:30:000 (1,4) - could still be improved a bit so I'll work on that later
4. 01:37:159 (3,4) - This is the first instance of this rhythm type being introduced. Not that this is a bad thing, but it may cause unnecessary slider end drops or even slider breaks. notice that in previous instances, the rhythm choice was to use the 01:37:414 - as a circle and give the downbeat on 01:37:500 - a clickable function. In my opinion, it makes more sense to give 01:37:500 - a clickable functionality since it's the downbeat. Anyhow, this is okay but maybe introduce this rhythm type earlier in the map?
   I'm having mixed thoughts about this since, while you're right that it's usually white ticks that should be emphasized with a slider head,
   there's actually a stronger kick on the blue tick 01:37:414 - that goes into the weaker sound on the downbeat so I felt like a slider fits the part better. I figured using a double instead of a 1/4 slider could work but I feel like it wouldn't give enough emphasis for the kick unless I increased the spacing in that case.
   On another note, the first occurrence of this rhythm in the song happens at 00:31:875 (3,4,5) - where Hathz also emphasized the blue tick more with a 1/2 slider albeit with a different pattern and less spacing between the blue and white tick. For most of these occurences in the song, he used his variation of the pattern and I used mine, which might explain the inconsistency.
5. 01:48:238 (5) - I recommend and NC
   Added NC
6. 02:34:602 (3,1) - Fix blanket.
   Fixed blanket and a weird stack I missed before
7. 02:35:454 (1) - I think this element would look nicer in unison with 02:35:454 (1) - as a standard blanket, but that's purely a stylistic choice C:Can a slider blanket itself? 🤔 I'll poke you in-game about this cause I'm not sure what exactly you meant
8. 03:39:545 (1,4) - Very nice overlap, good stuff.
   Thanks! It wasn't easy
9. 04:21:818 (1) - If you liked the slider recommendation earlier, consider applying a bit of a touch up here as well?
   Fixed it (I think). I kinda suck at this blanketing business...
   
   
   
   
10. 04:11:335 - The い is on this beat I think?
11. 04:17:727 (1,3) - Unnecessary overlap, can easily be resolved by moving 04:16:704 (2,3,4,1) - up just a couple pixels, and maybe 04:18:409 (3,4,5) - down a couple pixels.
    These two aren't my parts, I'll poke the person responsible for this

Jokes aside, I've had this map for 2 years. I don't know how much effort you've put into this after these 2 years have passed, but I seriously want you to rank this because since this maps discovery, I've regularly listened to this song outside of osu! and I've grown very fond of it, it's such an emotionally calming song. Not to mention, the SB production is amazing. Not ranking that work of art would be an injustice, honestly.
Thank you very much! I'm really glad to hear this since one of my goals was to promote songs like this with mapping. I'll try not to let all the effort go to waste~

GL

Thanks a ton for the very detailed and helpful mod! I really appreciate it

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

hi im modder c: hi c:

SPOILER

Hathz

1. 00:32:727 - Starting here, you switch to much more passive rhythm which seemed strange while playing. Compare 00:25:738 (5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - 00:36:818 (1,2,3,4,5) - . What I mean by passive is that you switch from capturing mostly every element in the music to capturing the minimum to maintain the flow. I'm not sure if it's that big of a problem, will leave it for now.
2. 00:42:975 (3) - This slider is snapped wrong and doesn't show up on the AImod, weird. See below
3. 00:43:678 (4) - This circle is also off snapped. Listening to it in 25%, you may want to check the wave file of the song to double check these are timed right. Additionally, if they are timed right, I highly suggest making 00:42:975 (3,4) - one combined slider, whether it be a reverse slider or not, to avoid players having trouble reading this. As far as timing goes on these, the song kinda slows down a bit and I tried my best to time it without adding more timing points. It's just snapped to 1/16.
4. 00:46:363 - I think it would make more sense to let the break occur immediately following 00:43:678 (4) - because that's when there are important storyboard elements being shown. Also, there is no gap up to 00:57:272 - so it's just inconsistent. Fair enough
5. 01:56:420 (3) - Maybe Ctrl + J and rotate 10 degrees, then blanket 01:56:250 (2) - ? this could be synergistic with 01:55:909 (1) - as well, since it can be blanketed by it. I think I prefer it the way it is now, also there's not much space to fiddle around there and I don't wanna break everything >w<
6. 03:15:000 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - Yooooo this was really beautiful... Ayy
7. 03:31:875 - OMG and a shooting star jeez I really love this storyboard lol. I'm just here to get the praise for Kawa's work~
8. 04:46:363 (1) - Maybe curve the end of it a bit? stylistic preference, no functionality impact here c: Uh, wrong link? ^^
9. 05:04:090 (1,1,2) - For OCD, can we make this a triangle or a 90 degree angle also wow, I'm really loving these flourishes at the end of kiai, good job on those. Fixed position of a circle slightly!
10. 07:00:511 (2,3) - If you alter the shape of 07:00:511 (2) - just a bit more, you can blanket both 07:01:022 (3) - and 07:01:363 (1) - in a more synergistic way.