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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on June 13, 2017 at 7:01:07 PM

Artist: Hotaru Murasaki
Title: Re:TrymenT
Source: Re:LieF ~親愛なるあなたへ~
Tags: short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e re lief tryment relief retryment eroge visual novel rask opening arika kibbleru garden bandi sinn
BPM: 190
Filesize: 28917kb
Play Time: 01:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Arika:InsanE (4.5 stars, 312 notes)
  2. Bandi:ExtrA (5.42 stars, 352 notes)
  3. Garden:InsanE (4.76 stars, 310 notes)
  4. Kibbleru:ExtrA (5.1 stars, 318 notes)
  5. Re:DeaR YoU (5.86 stars, 367 notes)
  6. Re:HarD (3.3 stars, 240 notes)
  7. Re:NormaL (2.08 stars, 120 notes)
  8. Sinn:EasY (1.26 stars, 60 notes)


Download: Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT
Download: Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT (no video)
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remapped top diff, hit sounds are done, just need to transfer and remap the hard and normal diff


First mapset... ever; will complete and eventually for rank
Redownload before 05/31/2017
10/16/2016: Re:Final done
10/20/2016: 2nd remap of Re:FinaL done
10/23/2016: Arika:InsanE, Kibbleru:ExtrA added
10/24/2016: Eraser:ExtrA added
10/26/2016: 3rd remap of Re:FinaL done
11/01/2016: Re:NormaL, Re:HarD added
11/02/2016: Eraser:ExtrA removed
11/03/2016: 4th remap of Re:FinaL done
11/04/2016: Garden:InsanE added
11/06/2016: Bandi:ExtrA, Sinn:EasY added
11/07/2016: new bgs
01/17/2017: 5th remap of Re:FinaL done, video added - SET COMPLETE?
05/31/2017: removed refinal, hello new remap & diff name + new hitsounds and video to fit beatmap size


Mapset
Easy - sinn and me
Normal - Will be remapping
Hard - Will be remapping
Insane - Arika
Insane - Garden
Extra - Kibbleru
Extra - Bandi
Extra by Eraser
DeaR YoU - Me

Hitsounding (+Keysounding) by me; Garden did his own hitsounding w/ default sounds

Re:FinaL
Version 1
Version 2
Version 3
I can't seem to find a .txt for the 4th remap >.<
Version 5
Bky-ssiO
Seiji
_Meep_
Yahuri
Opsianos
sinn
Agatsu
[ Pennek ]
Left
[A L P H A]
Invertable
CPUnit
ShogunMoon
SoullessTM
JeZag[/centre]


Official Webpage: http://rask-soft.com/
Thanks to all who test played, modded, and mapped GD for me. :D
posted
That's in my opinion an overall solid mapping here. Here's my thoughts about few thiny things which can be improved.

00:23:220 (2) - i think you can replace this reversed slider by two spaced one ( with a jump pattern for exemple )

00:33:956 (3) - will fill this with a slow slider until 00:34:430 -

01:12:009 - i would add a triple at this time, you have to see how you can manage it =)

01:20:851 (2) - try to find out a better positioning, i would recommand you to move it to the left or right, as you prefer ( would go for the right way ) like this
http://esl.d.pr/11RXB/3TtB20lO ( that's a screenshot )

That's all for me. Good luck =)
posted
Thank you for the mod! ^^ changes have been made.
posted
Some tips for you babe with the log.

Daoski my boy ;)

14:14 Daoski: seiji :D
14:15 Seiji: Daoski ^^
14:15 Daoski: o/
14:15 Seiji: o/
14:15 Daoski: dude can i ask you for something related to beatmapping??
14:15 Daoski: and for a testplay?:D
14:15 Seiji: Sure
14:15 *Daoski is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1099036 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT]
14:16 Daoski: i was hoping u could mod this diff for me
14:16 Daoski: and testplay it ^^
14:16 Seiji: Mod idk-
14:16 Seiji: I'm offline most of the time
14:16 Daoski: u dont have to get it done fast, its only 1:45 long
14:16 Seiji: I just came here because i was bored
14:16 Daoski: o
14:17 Daoski: well its alright ifu dont want to mod, just wanted to ask
14:17 Seiji: Well
14:19 Seiji: So much inconsistence
14:19 Seiji: With some patterns
14:19 Daoski: where
14:19 Daoski: give me dem roastings
14:20 Seiji: 01:02:062 (3,1) - Overlap
14:20 Daoski: noted
14:20 Seiji: 01:07:746 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Try to make this symetrical
14:21 Daoski: it is symmetrical tho
14:21 Daoski: the line isnt perfectly vertical but its symmetrical
14:21 Daoski: its like a slant like \
14:21 Seiji: 01:21:009 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Copy + paste = bored
14:22 Daoski: ok
14:22 Daoski: feelsbadman
14:23 Daoski: i just copy and paste so its consistent
14:23 Seiji: 01:26:378 (1) - New combo
14:23 Daoski: u can say its boring but i dont think its inconsistent
14:23 Daoski: how?
14:23 Daoski: o
14:23 Daoski: new combo?
14:23 Seiji: 01:27:325 (1) - New combo
14:23 Seiji: Yes
14:23 Daoski: do u want me to remove it or something?
14:23 Seiji: 1,2,1,2,1,2 crazy pattern
14:24 Seiji: Just put 1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4
14:24 Daoski: its the climax of the song, ofc the pattern will deviate from simplicity
14:24 Seiji: 01:27:956 (1) - New combo
14:24 Daoski: 01:27:641 (1) - ill remove the combo here but im not changing the combos for the others
14:25 Seiji: 01:42:799 (1) - What about that R
14:25 Seiji: 01:44:062 (1) - And this L?
14:25 Daoski: sry but i disagree with 01:27:956 (3) -
14:25 Daoski: its an aesthetical slider
14:25 Daoski: combo does not matter
14:25 Daoski: ur gonna bash me for not having follow points for the R and L into the heart?
14:25 Daoski: sry but i dont agree with u there tbh
14:26 Seiji: No
14:26 Daoski: cuz tbh i dont want follow points over those 3 sliders
14:26 Seiji: I just say why a R and L?
14:26 Seiji: The slider is rankeable
14:26 Daoski: cuz the source is "Re:Lief"
14:26 Seiji: Uhm see..
14:26 Daoski: R
14:26 Daoski: L
14:26 Daoski: heart
14:26 Daoski: eroge
14:26 Daoski: love visual novel
14:26 Daoski: ;)
14:27 Seiji: Uhm well
14:27 Daoski: this specific part here 01:25:430 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - i based the combo off xexxar's my hero map
14:28 Daoski: which is raked
14:28 Seiji: Its okay
14:28 Seiji: Then leave the combo like that
14:28 Daoski: lots of maps with jumps in visual novel OPs nowadays use 1,2 1,2
14:28 Daoski: especially with skystar
14:28 Daoski: idk if im being a dick but im telling u my reasons for doing it like that lol
14:30 Seiji: Okay
14:30 Daoski: alright i think i changed the combo at the transitions in the jumps so it looks better
14:30 Daoski: thanks for beinging it up
14:30 Daoski: bringing***
14:31 Daoski: i did 1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4, 1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4...
14:31 Daoski: :)
14:31 Daoski: so its basically the same as u suggested with 1,2,3,4,5,6
14:31 Seiji: I said change new combo cause of the rhythm
14:32 Daoski: i did
14:32 Daoski: i moved it accordingly
14:32 Daoski: i think
14:32 Daoski: it matches with my hitsounding too
14:32 Daoski: u should post this chat in forum and get free kudosu man :)
posted
Hi there, here's my map.. - 1st try hdhr http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6270880
I can't hitsound, can you help me :?
osu file format v14

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Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Murasaki Hotaru
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
Creator:Daoski
Version:Arika's Insane
Source:Re:LieF ~親愛なるあなたへ~ - OP
Tags:eroge visual novel rask opening
BeatmapID:0
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posted

[ Arika ] wrote:

Hi there, here's my map.. - 1st try hdhr http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6270880
I can't hitsound, can you help me :?
osu file format v14

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Artist:Murasaki Hotaru
ArtistUnicode:紫咲ほたる
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Version:Arika's Insane
Source:Re:LieF ~親愛なるあなたへ~ - OP
Tags:eroge visual novel rask opening
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Wow! Thanks so much! ^^ You can leave hitsounding to me ;_;
I appreciate your time and effort put into the gd :)
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m4m
00:21:956 (1,2) - I feel very uncomfortable on this, I Don't know why,maybe try changing the 2nd slider? because at that part the tone of the sound your sliders are playing changes into a much higher pitch
00:25:746 (1) - You're playing the drum sound in the song,but why is it still using the same slider as before? (imo, so dont need to change if u dont want)
00:36:167 (2,3) - I know flow can compensate for this, but why is the distance so far?
00:37:430 (1,2) - Plez blanket properly
01:15:325 (3,4,5) - It's very uncomfortable for players to transition from 3 to 4, because from 2 to 3 you already made so that the player's flow would go to the left, suddenly making them go back horizontally feels outright uncomfortable for the players
01:17:378 (2,3,4,1) - 01:19:272 (1,2) - for more tension or hype, 01:18:641 (2,3,4) - do what you did here for all the other sliders
01:25:114 (6) - dafuq lol,why so far
01:40:272 (2) - 2nd curve is bad,looks forced
I liek the final sliders

Overall, 1. There isn't much distance snapping at the kiai or maybe the whole map
the note placements are good,along with the few hitsounds you have added
dassit
posted

_Meep_ wrote:

m4m
00:21:956 (1,2) - I feel very uncomfortable on this, I Don't know why,maybe try changing the 2nd slider? because at that part the tone of the sound your sliders are playing changes into a much higher pitch noted: will change for sure (don't know how yet :s)
00:25:746 (1) - You're playing the drum sound in the song,but why is it still using the same slider as before? (imo, so dont need to change if u dont want) prob won't, I think it's ok
00:36:167 (2,3) - I know flow can compensate for this, but why is the distance so far? 00:36:483 (3,4,1) - to make this equal distance spacing
00:37:430 (1,2) - Plez blanket properly ok sry ;_;
01:15:325 (3,4,5) - It's very uncomfortable for players to transition from 3 to 4, because from 2 to 3 you already made so that the player's flow would go to the left, suddenly making them go back horizontally feels outright uncomfortable for the players noted: I thought the piano sounds justified them being isolated the way I did it because that pattern's already been shown before the kiai :o
01:17:378 (2,3,4,1) - 01:19:272 (1,2) - for more tension or hype, 01:18:641 (2,3,4) - do what you did here for all the other sliders sounds ok, but I don't like too many triples... sry just a preference :s
01:25:114 (6) - dafuq lol,why so far changed, i made the distance decrease from beginning slider to this 1:)
01:40:272 (2) - 2nd curve is bad,looks forced maybe... ill give it another thought, i think it looks ok
I liek the final sliders thanks! took me longer to make than the entire map! jk

Overall, 1. There isn't much distance snapping at the kiai or maybe the whole map how to distance snap senpie ;[
the note placements are good,along with the few hitsounds you have added thanks! :)
dassit
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00:29 *Daoski is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1099036 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT]
00:32 Yahuri: re zero re life re lief?
00:32 Daoski: idk
00:33 Daoski: lots of res :(
00:33 Yahuri: XD
00:33 Daoski: re:map
00:33 Daoski: lets goooooooooooooooo <-- bad
00:33 Yahuri: remap
00:33 Yahuri: send kds
00:33 Daoski: lmao
00:33 Yahuri: look alright
00:33 Daoski: :D
00:33 Yahuri: 00:21:956 (1,2) - sliders look a bit too close imo
00:34 Yahuri: also might wanna look into getting custom hitsounds and combo colors
00:34 Daoski: I agree!
00:34 Daoski: im getting there soz :(
00:34 Yahuri: 00:31:746 (1,3) - fix stack
00:34 Daoski: 1st time map 4 rank D:
00:34 Yahuri: oo
00:34 Daoski: fix stack?
00:34 Daoski: o
00:35 Daoski: doneso
00:35 Yahuri: actually you do amnual stacks in other places too so ill ignore those
00:35 Yahuri: XD
00:35 Yahuri: manual*
00:35 Daoski: uh i let the automatic stacker do work
00:35 Daoski: unless they're not completely overlapped as u see later in song
00:36 Yahuri: 00:39:009 (1,3) - what about that then?
00:36 Daoski: o
00:36 Daoski: fixed
00:36 Daoski: man how do u notice these LOL im blind
00:36 Yahuri: i major in nazi aesthetics
00:36 Yahuri: ;)
00:37 Daoski: but yeah i dont precisely place them, i only hover them until they align via autostack :o
00:37 Daoski: sry for triggering u
00:37 Daoski: u should post dis 4 kudosu :)
00:37 Yahuri: 00:43:904 (3,4) - flow not perfect, move 4 to the left a bit (stacking on 00:43:114 (4) - is an option)
00:38 Daoski: noted and applied
00:38 Yahuri: actually, youll need to rotate it clockwise too cuz the angle still wont be right
00:38 Yahuri: XD
00:38 Daoski: orly?
00:38 Daoski: 00:44:062 (4,5) - ur telling me this wont flow right?:s
00:39 Daoski: i made it so it was meant to be up --> down motion slider :s
00:39 Yahuri: well, right now it goes to 4, then juts out to the left a bit and goes back to the right
00:39 Daoski: o
00:39 Yahuri: what i think would be better if it starts moving to the right immediately rather than going left
00:40 Daoski: ok i consider rotate both 4 and 5 accordingly so better
00:40 Yahuri: ah yea
00:40 Yahuri: copy paste 5 then
00:40 Yahuri: 00:46:904 (1,1) - fix stack
00:40 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272086 20 degrees
00:40 Yahuri: sure
00:41 Daoski: cool :D
00:41 Yahuri: 00:52:746 (2,4) - a bit too close maybe?
00:42 Daoski: want me to increase? i was initially farther but i thought maybe closer since no need for space
00:42 Yahuri: well
00:42 Yahuri: it looks weird
00:42 Yahuri: :p
00:42 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272100i move up left a little
00:42 Daoski: good?:s
00:43 Yahuri: uhhh
00:43 Daoski: or farther?
00:43 Yahuri: i got the "oops" page
00:43 Daoski: uwo
00:43 Yahuri: rip
00:43 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272100
00:43 Daoski: 1 i too many
00:43 Yahuri: i cant see the 2
00:43 Daoski: i highlight it
00:43 Yahuri: ohhh
00:43 Yahuri: okay
00:44 Yahuri: sure
00:45 Yahuri: 00:53:378 (4,1,2,3) - i think itd be better if you move 3 up right so the angle change isnt as sharp
00:45 Yahuri: cuz 2 sounds a bit more intense than 3
00:46 Yahuri: actually 2 might benefit if you increase the angle change too
00:46 Daoski: dont u mean
00:46 Daoski: move 3 down right?:o
00:46 Daoski: left8*****\
00:46 Daoski: o
00:46 Yahuri: no, that would be increasing the angle change
00:47 Daoski: mm
00:47 Daoski: the 3 circle right?
00:47 Yahuri: uhhh
00:47 Yahuri: lemme give example
00:48 Daoski: if u move 3 up rightg
00:48 Daoski: ur basically suggesting the aim to be str8 down to slider basically
00:48 Daoski: instead of slant going diagonally down 2 right
00:50 Yahuri: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272121 ignore the fact that i couldnt get the flow into 4 lol
00:50 Daoski: o
00:50 Daoski: i dont like super flat looking triangle like those
00:50 Daoski: but since movement is vertical i will consider
00:50 Yahuri: ok
00:50 Daoski: only skystar do flat triangle horizontally :s
00:52 Daoski: mmm i think spacing too big if doing it ur way imo
00:52 Daoski: i agree 2 circle is strongest circle
00:52 Daoski: but corresponding distance spacing for circle 2 is from circle 1 to 2, not 2 to 3
00:52 Yahuri: idk
00:52 Yahuri: i looked the the spacing that was already there
00:52 Yahuri: Dx
00:52 Daoski: so i lower distance spacing from 2-3 compared to 1-2
00:52 Daoski: D:
00:53 Yahuri: (or i read it wrong)
00:53 Daoski: i think i might leave it alone then :s until i get better
00:53 Yahuri: just focus on the angle change that i made rather than the DS
00:53 Daoski: o
00:53 Daoski: i never thought about it that way
00:53 Daoski: everything makes sense
00:53 *Daoski mindblows
00:53 Yahuri: 00:58:746 (3,5) - could adjust some things and stack this if you want
00:55 Daoski: changed and noted
00:55 Yahuri: 01:12:483 (1,4) - stack or nah
00:55 Daoski: 00:53:693 (1,2,3,4) - cant i just move 4 slider down left a little?
00:55 Daoski: hey btw
00:55 Yahuri: yea?
00:56 Daoski: stack
00:56 Daoski: ok so i screenshot what 1,2,3,4 looks like then:
00:56 Yahuri: i was comparing the angle change of 1-2 and 2-3, not 3-4
00:57 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272148
00:57 Daoski: o
00:57 Daoski: well u cant have an angle without 3 circles
00:57 Daoski: if 2 circle only distance spacing
00:57 Yahuri: so if you take into account the 4 which occurs before 1, the angle change is rather small going from 1-2
00:58 Daoski: mmm
00:58 Daoski: ok i see
00:58 Daoski: but
00:58 Daoski: is the flow not nice due to the lack of angling technique?
00:58 Yahuri: well
00:58 Yahuri: the flow itself looks fine
00:58 Daoski: its a nice triangle imo looking from 4,1,2
00:58 Yahuri: but could be done better to reflect the musical intensity
00:58 Daoski: that u mention
00:59 Daoski: mmm ok
00:59 Daoski: will consider
00:59 Yahuri: (going by angles only, not aesthetics)
00:59 Daoski: rip
00:59 Daoski: i never did well in calculus
00:59 Yahuri: XD
00:59 Daoski: and here it is poppin out from nowhere ;_;
00:59 Yahuri: i didnt either
00:59 Daoski: alright
00:59 Yahuri: dis more geometry tho
01:00 Daoski: calculus is geometry
01:00 Daoski: on a ridiculous level
01:00 Daoski: HYPERBOLIC SIN boi
01:00 Daoski: curves
01:00 Daoski: ;_;
01:00 Daoski: angles ;_______;
01:00 Daoski: my grades :________________________________________________________;
01:00 Yahuri: we arent deriving anything
01:00 Daoski: we are deriving music intensity
01:00 Daoski: from the angles given
01:00 Daoski: take the integral of the angle made from 1-2
01:00 Yahuri: rip
01:01 Daoski: plus the cosin of the angle made from the integral of 2-3
01:01 Daoski: and somehow get good flow = slider 4 and 5
01:01 Daoski: kappapride
01:01 Daoski: what a meme
01:01 Yahuri: 01:14:693 (6,1) - increase angle change for emphasis
01:02 Yahuri: 01:15:009 (1,2) - decrease angle change, 1 should be emphasized much more than 2
01:02 Daoski: yessir
01:02 Daoski: noted
01:02 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272167 how bout this for the other part tho
01:03 Yahuri: the angle change from 1-2 is still smaller than 2-3
01:03 Daoski: wat im dumb
01:03 Daoski: rip
01:03 Daoski: this is me on midterm/final
01:04 Daoski: cant solve 1 problem
01:04 Yahuri: :p
01:04 Daoski: ok
01:04 Daoski: 01:15:009 (1,2,3,4) - i change angle like this for the most recent highligh
01:04 Yahuri: 01:15:325 (3,4,5) - does the intensity of 4 really warrant a backwards flow
01:05 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272182
01:05 Daoski: nope
01:05 Daoski: changed it :c
01:05 Yahuri: better
01:05 Daoski: but TBH
01:05 Daoski: dat piano note tho
01:05 Yahuri: yea
01:05 Daoski: ;) but ye maybe i stick with this is better?
01:05 Yahuri: probably
01:06 Daoski: 00:53:693 (1,2,3,4) - i give up this change 2 impossibru at my mapping lvl
01:06 Daoski: ill lvl my mapping next week and get it fixed then
01:06 Yahuri: 01:18:483 - DS overdone compared to other previous DS
01:06 Yahuri: oops
01:07 Yahuri: wait
01:07 Yahuri: 01:18:167 (1,2) - that
01:07 Yahuri: DS goes from 2.2 to 3.8
01:08 Yahuri: sooooo thats probably not right
01:08 Daoski: ok i fix
01:08 Daoski: trust
01:08 Daoski: doing it right now need time to process mentally
01:08 Yahuri: XD
01:09 Daoski: ok
01:09 Yahuri: 01:23:535 (3,4) - stack?
01:09 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272203 same spacing as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272203 if u notice
01:09 Daoski: wtf im stupid
01:09 Daoski: 01:17:378 (2,3) - from this******
01:10 Yahuri: huh
01:10 Daoski: stacked
01:10 Daoski: i remove the triple
01:10 Daoski: move circle upright
01:10 Daoski: decrease ds
01:11 Yahuri: which note has the follow arrows on the top left?
01:11 Daoski: u see the note where its a triple into long slider?
01:11 Yahuri: there arent any triples on the ss
01:11 Daoski: ...
01:11 Daoski: 01:18:641 (2,3) -
01:11 Daoski: ??
01:12 Yahuri: those are triples on the current map, not the screenshot
01:12 Daoski: the screenshot doesnt have them
01:12 Daoski: cuz i removed the blue tick circle
01:12 Daoski: but its the same timeframe
01:12 Daoski: same 2 circles i highlight
01:12 Daoski: u said distance snapping 2 big so i decrease it like this
01:12 Yahuri: oooo i got it
01:12 Daoski: make nice triangle between sliders :(
01:13 Yahuri: yea that should be ok
01:13 Daoski: 01:17:378 (2,3) - spacing from 2-3 is similar to 01:17:378 (2,3) -
01:13 Daoski: wtf is with my copy and paste functions
01:13 Daoski: ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
01:13 Daoski: 01:17:378 (2,3) - *****************************
01:13 Daoski: im done
01:13 Daoski: get me a new computer
01:13 Daoski: LMAO... feelsbadman
01:13 Yahuri: lol
01:14 Yahuri: i broke my z key
01:14 Daoski: nice
01:14 Daoski: thats why i use q w
01:14 Daoski: so i can qq and cry
01:14 Yahuri: 01:26:062 (1,2,3) - why is DS so huge from 1-2 but not 2-3
01:14 Yahuri: 2-3 has finish hitsound
01:15 Yahuri: 01:38:851 (3) - this would look better as a normal wave slider imo
01:16 Daoski: uh
01:16 Daoski: alright ill fix the slider then tell u what i thought making that
01:16 Daoski: alright so
01:17 Daoski: idk i just thought there was supposed to be a kind of transition between it
01:17 Daoski: so the distance snap was a bit lower than u wanted
01:17 Yahuri: transition?
01:17 Yahuri: well
01:17 Daoski: its kinda hard to explain since its not exactly following music ik
01:17 Daoski: just how i thought it could work lol
01:17 Yahuri: well
01:18 Daoski: would it be better if the spacing between 3 and 4 is like spacing for these 01:26:693 (1,2) -
01:18 Yahuri: the really huge increase of DS overall is kinda questionable, since i dont think the music is getting insanely loud or anything
01:18 Daoski: mm
01:18 Daoski: music may not increase gradually
01:19 Yahuri: actually
01:19 Daoski: i think
01:19 Daoski: but its reasonable to have a buildup
01:19 Yahuri: let me make an alternative
01:19 Yahuri: wait
01:19 Daoski: o shit
01:19 Daoski: d legend incoming predator missle
01:19 Daoski: rip daoski 2016
01:20 Daoski: btw instrumental may only have 2 stages of increase but vocals say otherwise
01:20 Daoski: its a smooth increase which peaks here 01:27:956 (1,2,3) -
01:21 Yahuri: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272254 pattern looking like this might work better
01:22 Yahuri: you still have the emphasis on the NCs, but not increasing the DS of the second note in combo by a lot
01:22 Daoski: hmmm
01:22 Daoski: ok then how bout
01:22 Daoski: 01:26:220 (2,3,4) - i turn this into repeating slider
01:23 Daoski: that somehow magically flows into the following notes
01:23 Yahuri: 01:26:378 (3) - dont you want to have a click on 01:26:378 (3) - though?
01:23 Daoski: cuz the pattern u showed me almost identical to current placing no?
01:23 Daoski: dont have to
01:23 Daoski: music has no actual hitfinish sound
01:23 Yahuri: no, the other placement has increasing DS throughout
01:23 Daoski: i only do it because of way i map
01:24 Daoski: 01:26:378 (3,4) - how bout turning this into a slider
01:24 Daoski: 01:25:114 (6) - so its like this more
01:25 Yahuri: those two sections arent really that similar in terms of music tho
01:25 Yahuri: but you could do the slider if you want to lol
01:25 Daoski: then are you suggesting i map it with spacing concept similar to toybot's AI diff?
01:25 Yahuri: er
01:25 Yahuri: i dont have that
01:25 Daoski: o
01:26 *Daoski is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1099936 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT]
01:26 Daoski: his mapping section is no gradual increase but 2 distinct increases only
01:26 Daoski: like u suggested initially
01:26 Daoski: i think its boring and i want to map it differently despite mapping the diff before he did :s
01:27 Yahuri: 01:40:272 (2) - also how about changing ending curve so its something more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272236
01:27 Yahuri: ok lemme grab that
01:27 Daoski: oh alright
01:27 Daoski: i agree with that
01:28 Yahuri: well i dont toally agree with toybots diff
01:28 Yahuri: because it puts less DS on the NC and more DS on the second note of the combo
01:29 Daoski: o
01:29 Daoski: i only considered the DS between 1-2 and not 2 to the next pair of 1-2
01:29 Daoski: ok lemme think of something then :s
01:29 Yahuri: (though i will admit the hexagon pattern works quite well in terms of aesthetics)
01:29 Yahuri: wait thats an octagon
01:29 Daoski: while i execute my cognitive function to manipulate slider shape
01:29 Yahuri: oops
01:30 Daoski: lmao boosted
01:30 Daoski: geometry god
01:30 Daoski: hexagon = octagon
01:30 Yahuri: use an approach circle for the slider
01:30 Yahuri: add extra white anchor if needed
01:30 Daoski: o
01:31 Daoski: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272296 ok?
01:31 Yahuri: 01:42:799 (1) - could change shape a bit so that the read anchor section doesnt touch the other part of slider body
01:31 Yahuri: uh
01:32 Yahuri: now that just reminds me of 2007
01:32 Daoski: LMAO PLEASE STOP IM LEARNING D:
01:32 Daoski: alright ill redo it v.v
01:32 Yahuri: 01:45:325 (1) - make slider head and tail not touch if you want to
01:33 Daoski: wait if the heart ends touch then is it not ok for R to touch like that as well?
01:33 Daoski: its not like the actual track is hard to read?;s
01:33 Yahuri: well no, but i think it would look better if they didnt touch imo
01:33 Daoski: o
01:34 Daoski: ok
01:34 Yahuri: aaand thats it lol
posted
My gd :>

you shouldn't waste your stars on one map, just sayin :>

(I already hitsounded it)
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posted
ffs i forgot to put kiai in.

updated with kiai and some fixes.

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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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This is what happens when you rip off of youtube dear god 8-) Good thing Im mp3 god http://puu.sh/rCJei/92265532a5.png
http://puu.sh/rCJfG/870835dcdf.jpg I have all of the files for this eroge since I can crack them all now lel
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iWinnie wrote:

This is what happens when you rip off of youtube dear god 8-) Good thing Im mp3 god http://puu.sh/rCJei/92265532a5.png
http://puu.sh/rCJfG/870835dcdf.jpg I have all of the files for this eroge since I can crack them all now lel
first map first rip

pls teach me senpie ;[
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a little self fix
next time u can just ask me if u want me to fix something please :S
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09:32 _Meep_: sup
09:33 Daoski: morning
09:33 _Meep_: its midnight for em
09:33 _Meep_: me*
09:33 _Meep_: XD
09:44 _Meep_: 01:13:577 (4) -
09:44 _Meep_: .-.
09:44 _Meep_: srs
09:44 Daoski: idk how to blanket it properly
09:44 Daoski: the struggles man
09:44 _Meep_: 01:30:156 (1,1) - y so close
09:44 _Meep_: theres like a full tick between them
09:44 Daoski: there used to be a slider there ill change it ;w;
09:45 _Meep_: 01:35:209 (1,2,1) - u followed vocals here but not 01:37:735 (1,2) -
09:45 Daoski: rip ur right
09:45 Daoski: this is what happens when u get impatient x.x
09:46 _Meep_: 00:45:788 (5) - NC
09:46 _Meep_: 00:45:946 (1) - remove NC
09:46 Daoski: hard thing is that piano and vocal almost same
09:46 _Meep_: 00:44:682 (1) - Remove NC
09:46 _Meep_: 00:47:525 (1) - remove NC
09:46 _Meep_: 00:48:314 (5) - NC
09:46 _Meep_: 00:48:472 (1) - remove NC
09:47 _Meep_: 00:49:735 (1) - remove NC
09:47 _Meep_: 00:50:682 (1) - remove NC
09:47 _Meep_: 01:00:946 (1) - remove NC
09:48 _Meep_: 01:13:577 (4,2,3,4) - dis blanket tho
09:48 _Meep_: 01:15:314 (3,4,5) - Unexpected
09:48 Daoski: fk ik dat slider
09:49 _Meep_: not good
09:49 Daoski: o right its cuz i dont do it anywhere else
09:49 Daoski: unlike b4
09:49 _Meep_: 01:31:104 (1) - remove NC
09:49 _Meep_: to follow 01:32:682 (1,2,3,4) -
09:50 _Meep_: 00:30:472 (1) - remove NC
09:50 _Meep_: 00:38:367 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:35:840 (1,2,3,4,5) -
09:50 _Meep_: why so different?
09:51 Daoski: i didnt want copy paste?:o
09:51 Daoski: i guess they TOO different? xd
09:51 _Meep_: because you're follow the instrumentals
09:51 Daoski: still squares tho
09:51 _Meep_: if you didn't notice
09:51 _Meep_: the piano notes played are the same
09:51 _Meep_: for both parts
09:52 Daoski: but ur the one who told me b4 even if they the same u shouldnt copy/paste the flow
09:52 Daoski: alright ill make it more "similar"
09:52 _Meep_: It's bad to copy paste,right
09:52 _Meep_: but make it similar
09:52 Daoski: uh similar to what again? xd
09:52 _Meep_: have the same notes and sliders,but ofc different shapes
09:52 _Meep_: to the first part
09:53 _Meep_: 00:42:156 (2,3,4) - as said in pishi's vids,using TOO many kinds of styles of sliders ain't good
09:53 Daoski: arent they all technically the same slider
09:53 _Meep_: no lol
09:53 _Meep_: 00:42:156 (2,4) - aren't the same
09:54 Daoski: well i cant use the same shape for 2/4
09:54 Daoski: different pitch in vocal tho
09:54 _Meep_: 00:44:367 (5) - the piano is practically going lower in terms of pitch,however why is this going up XD
09:54 _Meep_: -.-
09:54 Daoski: o rite
09:54 _Meep_: if ur gona say different pitch,nearly every slider would have to be changed
09:54 _Meep_: LOL
09:54 Daoski: LUL ok ok
09:55 Daoski: i understand
09:55 Daoski: at least these changes are doable
09:55 _Meep_: 00:48:472 (1,3) - blanket these
09:55 _Meep_: then blanket 00:48:788 (2,3) -
09:55 Daoski: fk but the DS then D:
09:55 _Meep_: 00:49:419 (4) - no reason for this to be so far out so blanket this after this as well
09:56 Daoski: i wanted to keep ds so i made them symmetrical rather than blanket
09:56 _Meep_: if I can do it why cant u https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6307009
09:56 _Meep_: lol
09:56 _Meep_: im still using ur 2.6x ds
09:57 _Meep_: and it works
09:57 Daoski: its too hard
09:57 Daoski: lol ok i get it
09:57 Daoski: but i gotta get going to work now soooooooooo ill fix these at 2:30am like always LOOOL :D
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17:35 Opsianos: 00:39:788 (1) -
17:35 Opsianos: Remove that NC xP
17:35 Daoski: should i do it for all similar instances?
17:35 Opsianos: Ehh just that one
17:35 Opsianos: Cause there were 2 NC's in a row
17:36 Daoski: o ok
17:36 Opsianos: 00:43:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:36 Daoski: tru it is indeed inconsistent
17:36 Opsianos: This isn't objective
17:36 Opsianos: But
17:36 Opsianos: Hmm
17:36 Daoski: i think the overlap for 3 and 4
17:36 Opsianos: Actually nvm lol that's really personal
17:36 Daoski: is pretty sketchy huh
17:37 Daoski: what do u think im willing to listen
17:37 Opsianos: No the jumps are good
17:37 Opsianos: It's just that they surprised me a little
17:37 Opsianos: Compared to the slow sliders that were super closely blanketed right before
17:37 Daoski: o
17:37 Opsianos: So I was going to suggest maybe gradually increasing the spacing of the jumps
17:37 Opsianos: Instead of making them uniform
17:38 Daoski: hmmm u seem to make a good point
17:38 Daoski: what i thought was just to decide on the DS between notes based on the difference in pitch of piano
17:38 Opsianos: But again that really depends on the mapper
17:38 Opsianos: Hmm
17:38 Daoski: 00:44:051 (4,5,6,7,8) - i guess this shape is pretty messy, no?
17:38 Opsianos: No it flows well
17:38 Opsianos: The jumps aren't messy at all
17:38 Opsianos: They're clean
17:39 Opsianos: Just the spacing IMO
17:39 Opsianos: Also personally
17:39 Opsianos: 00:43:104 (3) -
17:39 Daoski: should be highest spacing --> lowest spacing?
17:39 Opsianos: I would halve this slider's length and put a circle on the big white tick since it's a strong sound there on the vocal
17:39 Daoski: o
17:39 Opsianos: Actually you know what the jumps are fine lol
17:40 Daoski: ur right
17:40 Daoski: idk i unconciously followed the piano
17:40 Daoski: but ill give it a shot and see how it goes
17:40 Opsianos: I mean the structure is good
17:40 Daoski: at the very least
17:40 Opsianos: I'm telling you they're fine cause if you put that extra circle in the beginning in it should be easier to expect
17:40 Daoski: is it because the circles start at a white tick instead of red?
17:40 Opsianos: Cause I think they're unexpected cause they come right after a sliderend
17:41 Daoski: im kinda new to mapping so bear with me here ;_;
17:41 Opsianos: lol no worries I am too
17:41 Daoski: well... doesnt it technically come after sliderend even if u half its length anyway?:P
17:41 Opsianos: lol true
17:41 Opsianos: But the slider's rather long
17:41 Opsianos: And slow
17:41 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Opsianos: I think halving the slider would require the player to gain speed for the jumps
17:42 Opsianos: Also I'd say you should NC 00:43:104 (3) -
17:42 Daoski: o so it allows them to speed their aim naturally
17:42 Opsianos: Instead of 00:44:840 (1) -
17:42 Daoski: ok
17:42 Opsianos: Yeah basically
17:42 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Daoski: noted
17:43 Opsianos: Oh right
17:43 Opsianos: You were right
17:43 Opsianos: The NC's are a consistent issue
17:43 Opsianos: So for things like this
17:43 Opsianos: 00:49:735 (5,1) -
17:43 Opsianos: Just NC the first one instead of the second one
17:43 Daoski: o?
17:43 Daoski: i was suggested otherwise
17:44 Daoski: told me to remove NC for first
17:44 Opsianos: Oh really
17:44 Opsianos: Well that's odd
17:44 Opsianos: Since IMO the NC should be on the first one cause it's more readable and the first note is stronger since it's on the big white tick
17:45 Daoski: o so thats usually where u would place NC's personally?
17:45 Daoski: 00:37:104 (1,1) - so for that reason u'd remove nc for 2nd one right
17:45 Opsianos: Yeah
17:45 Opsianos: Mmhmm
17:45 Daoski: ok ok
17:45 Opsianos: I think I'm of the majority opinion too
17:45 Daoski: i see where u goin
17:45 Opsianos: This is actaully a really solid map though IMO
17:46 Opsianos: Oh
17:46 Opsianos: For the ending
17:46 Opsianos: I would suggest using different sliders instead of letters lol
17:46 Daoski: rip
17:46 Daoski: my 10 minutes of effort sliders
17:46 Opsianos: I mean
17:46 Opsianos: The heart's fine
17:46 Daoski: ur against the letters?
17:46 Opsianos: But writing with sliders usually looks crude and unprofessional lol
17:47 Daoski: is there a section on rankable letters?
17:47 Opsianos: I mean
17:47 Daoski: cuz there r indeed maps with letters much worse than this :o
17:47 Opsianos: I think it's rankable
17:47 Daoski: that r ranked
17:47 Opsianos: This is just personal opinion lol
17:47 Opsianos: I don't think they play too well
17:47 Opsianos: But they're not messy/sloppy
17:48 Daoski: these letters? hmm ok ill remember that
17:48 Opsianos: I'd advise you to ask for more opinion
17:48 Opsianos: Cause that's just me being kind of picky
17:48 Daoski: ok ok
17:48 Daoski: so what im getting from you for these letters is:
17:48 Daoski: 1) they look fine, but still suggest an alternative
17:49 Daoski: 2) i forgot the reason u told me to change them again lul
17:49 Daoski: o they dont play well
17:49 Opsianos: Yeah and it doesn't look very nice either
17:49 Opsianos: Not that you didn't make them good
17:49 Opsianos: But I don't think sliders themselves look that great in letters
17:49 Opsianos: Again personal opinion though
17:49 Daoski: o
17:50 Opsianos: Moving a bit back
17:50 Opsianos: 01:17:525 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:50 Opsianos: I'd suggest remapping this into something more exciting
17:50 Opsianos: Or at least
17:50 Opsianos: 01:19:419 (4) -
17:50 Opsianos: Replace it with a stream cause I think that'd sound pretty good and it fits into the song
17:51 Daoski: o
17:51 Opsianos: Cause the music is rather intense at that point and it's not very rhythmically interesting compared to the rest of the kiai
17:51 Daoski: good idea ill probably do the latter
17:51 Daoski: ok i completely see what u mean
17:51 Daoski: i just didnt want to overmap and probably held back too muchfor a kiai
17:51 Daoski: will do sir
17:52 Opsianos: Yeah I was really worried about overmapping too before
17:52 Opsianos: But after looking at popular ranked maps
17:52 Opsianos: The mapper adds short bursts and triples when there isn't really anything in the music that's like that
17:52 Opsianos: It just makes the map more fun and it sounds good and not out of place
17:53 Daoski: lol ill try and look for those ^^
17:53 Opsianos: Also this is personal opinion too
17:53 Daoski: is there anything else u want to say for the kiai? i was kinda hoping u'd look at 01:30:156 (1,1) -
17:53 Opsianos: Hm?
17:54 Daoski: i need to do this better but idk how to transition it properly
17:54 Opsianos: I mean the ending is pretty good
17:54 Opsianos: Just some combo errors but nothing major
17:54 Opsianos: Oh actually
17:54 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:54 Opsianos: Maybe shorten this to the previous white tick?
17:55 Opsianos: Since 01:36:314 (1) - is that length
17:55 Opsianos: And the vocal stops at that white tick too
17:55 Daoski: hmm ok
17:55 Daoski: changed
17:55 Opsianos: Okay one more thing I believe
17:55 Opsianos: Again this is personal opinion
17:56 Opsianos: 01:25:419 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
17:56 Opsianos: I would suggest adding some more variation here
17:56 Opsianos: Doesn't have to be too much IMO
17:56 Daoski: hmm so do u want me to just move each pair around in a more diverse fashion?
17:57 Daoski: i think the distance spacing between them is fine and shouldnt be changed imo
17:57 Opsianos: Ehh no they're fine structurally
17:57 Opsianos: I'm just talking about the rhythm
17:57 Opsianos: Like maybe make this into a slider
17:57 Opsianos: 01:26:367 (1,2) -
17:57 Opsianos: To emphasize the downbeat of 01:26:367 (1) -
17:57 Daoski: o ok
17:57 Opsianos: Basically what you did here
17:57 Opsianos: 01:25:104 (3) -
17:58 Daoski: right
17:58 Daoski: it doesnt match up with my hitsound with what i have currently
17:58 Opsianos: Hmm
17:58 Opsianos: Out of curiosity
17:58 Opsianos: Did you want this slider to be more wavy
17:58 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:59 Daoski: not really
17:59 Opsianos: Ah okay nvm then
17:59 Daoski: the vocal is a flat A sound
17:59 Daoski: so i didnt think it warranted more waviness
18:00 Daoski: BTW
18:00 Opsianos: Yeah that's fine
18:00 Opsianos: Hm?
18:00 Daoski: is it alright if i could ask for ur opinion on my blanketing for 2 parts?
18:00 Opsianos: Also I think that's basically it from my end
18:00 Opsianos: lol sure
18:00 Opsianos: I'm sloppy with blanketing though cause I use a lot of weird sliders
18:00 Opsianos: The map looked pretty clean with blankets though
18:01 Opsianos: I'd advise getting someone from #modhelp or something to help you with NC's more by the way
18:01 Daoski: 01:12:946 (2,4) - this got pointed out by a mod and just wanted to ask if this was ok?
18:01 Opsianos: Uhh
18:01 Daoski: ye these mods were from modhelp if i ever referred to them
18:01 Opsianos: I don't really see the problem with it
18:01 Opsianos: Cause it 01:12:946 (2) - blankets 01:12:472 (3) - perfectly
18:02 Daoski: 1 more
18:02 Daoski: 01:37:735 (1,3,1) - this might be hard but this is ok too?
18:02 Opsianos: Honestly if someone said the word "blanket" on this map while modding I'd think they're grasping at straws
18:02 Opsianos: Well yeah that's fine too
18:02 Daoski: oh it was because when i first mapped this
18:03 Daoski: ppl were telling me o its good note placement and flow concept
18:03 Daoski: BUT NO DISTANCE SNAPPING OR BLANKET >:
18:03 Opsianos: Cause 01:38:840 (3) - blankets 01:37:735 (1) -
18:03 Daoski: and then had to remap :c
18:03 Opsianos: Well this map's really clean aesthetically IMO
18:03 Opsianos: If anything I'd say it's TOO clean lol
18:03 Opsianos: But again personal taste
18:04 Daoski: ;_; im so happy to hear that lol
18:04 Opsianos: That's definitely personal taste
18:04 Opsianos: So yeah blankets are good :D
18:04 Opsianos: Looks like you worked hard to make them perfect xP
18:04 Daoski: ;_; u have no idea
18:05 Daoski: first time blanketer
18:05 Opsianos: xD
18:05 Daoski: do u think the intensity of notes is inconsistent with intensity of music anywhere else except what u've highlighted so far? (aka 01:19:261 (3,4) - )
18:05 Daoski: im willing to push it up a couple more stars, despite losing the .69
18:05 Daoski: feelsbadman
18:06 Opsianos: lmao
18:06 Opsianos: Let's see
18:06 Opsianos: 00:59:051 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:06 Opsianos: I'd say to make sure that the jumps that you did along with the piano should be smaller in spacing than this
18:07 Opsianos: Since that buildup is more exciting than the relative tranquility of the song
18:08 Opsianos: Other than that it's basically it
18:08 Daoski: alright sounds good, i dont really have any other stuff to bother u with then :O TYVM
18:08 Opsianos: np :D
18:08 Opsianos: Oh right
18:08 Opsianos: This is a bit personal
18:08 Opsianos: But I don't think it has to be AR 9.5 xP
18:08 Opsianos: Unless that's what you're aiming for
18:09 Daoski: hm
18:09 Opsianos: Maybe 9.2 or 9.3
18:09 Daoski: it was either 9.3 or 9.5
18:09 Daoski: hm ok
18:09 Daoski: ill try 9.3 since i like it too, and give it a shot


Good luck with the map! :)
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17:35 Opsianos: 00:39:788 (1) -
17:35 Opsianos: Remove that NC xP
17:35 Daoski: should i do it for all similar instances?
17:35 Opsianos: Ehh just that one
17:35 Opsianos: Cause there were 2 NC's in a row
17:36 Daoski: o ok
17:36 Opsianos: 00:43:577 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:36 Daoski: tru it is indeed inconsistent
17:36 Opsianos: This isn't objective
17:36 Opsianos: But
17:36 Opsianos: Hmm
17:36 Daoski: i think the overlap for 3 and 4
17:36 Opsianos: Actually nvm lol that's really personal
17:36 Daoski: is pretty sketchy huh
17:37 Daoski: what do u think im willing to listen
17:37 Opsianos: No the jumps are good
17:37 Opsianos: It's just that they surprised me a little
17:37 Opsianos: Compared to the slow sliders that were super closely blanketed right before
17:37 Daoski: o
17:37 Opsianos: So I was going to suggest maybe gradually increasing the spacing of the jumps
17:37 Opsianos: Instead of making them uniform
17:38 Daoski: hmmm u seem to make a good point
17:38 Daoski: what i thought was just to decide on the DS between notes based on the difference in pitch of piano
17:38 Opsianos: But again that really depends on the mapper
17:38 Opsianos: Hmm
17:38 Daoski: 00:44:051 (4,5,6,7,8) - i guess this shape is pretty messy, no?
17:38 Opsianos: No it flows well
17:38 Opsianos: The jumps aren't messy at all
17:38 Opsianos: They're clean
17:39 Opsianos: Just the spacing IMO
17:39 Opsianos: Also personally
17:39 Opsianos: 00:43:104 (3) -
17:39 Daoski: should be highest spacing --> lowest spacing?
17:39 Opsianos: I would halve this slider's length and put a circle on the big white tick since it's a strong sound there on the vocal
17:39 Daoski: o
17:39 Opsianos: Actually you know what the jumps are fine lol
17:40 Daoski: ur right
17:40 Daoski: idk i unconciously followed the piano
17:40 Daoski: but ill give it a shot and see how it goes
17:40 Opsianos: I mean the structure is good
17:40 Daoski: at the very least
17:40 Opsianos: I'm telling you they're fine cause if you put that extra circle in the beginning in it should be easier to expect
17:40 Daoski: is it because the circles start at a white tick instead of red?
17:40 Opsianos: Cause I think they're unexpected cause they come right after a sliderend
17:41 Daoski: im kinda new to mapping so bear with me here ;_;
17:41 Opsianos: lol no worries I am too
17:41 Daoski: well... doesnt it technically come after sliderend even if u half its length anyway?:P
17:41 Opsianos: lol true
17:41 Opsianos: But the slider's rather long
17:41 Opsianos: And slow
17:41 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Opsianos: I think halving the slider would require the player to gain speed for the jumps
17:42 Opsianos: Also I'd say you should NC 00:43:104 (3) -
17:42 Daoski: o so it allows them to speed their aim naturally
17:42 Opsianos: Instead of 00:44:840 (1) -
17:42 Daoski: ok
17:42 Opsianos: Yeah basically
17:42 Daoski: ok ok
17:42 Daoski: noted
17:43 Opsianos: Oh right
17:43 Opsianos: You were right
17:43 Opsianos: The NC's are a consistent issue
17:43 Opsianos: So for things like this
17:43 Opsianos: 00:49:735 (5,1) -
17:43 Opsianos: Just NC the first one instead of the second one
17:43 Daoski: o?
17:43 Daoski: i was suggested otherwise
17:44 Daoski: told me to remove NC for first
17:44 Opsianos: Oh really
17:44 Opsianos: Well that's odd
17:44 Opsianos: Since IMO the NC should be on the first one cause it's more readable and the first note is stronger since it's on the big white tick
17:45 Daoski: o so thats usually where u would place NC's personally?
17:45 Daoski: 00:37:104 (1,1) - so for that reason u'd remove nc for 2nd one right
17:45 Opsianos: Yeah
17:45 Opsianos: Mmhmm
17:45 Daoski: ok ok
17:45 Opsianos: I think I'm of the majority opinion too
17:45 Daoski: i see where u goin
17:45 Opsianos: This is actaully a really solid map though IMO
17:46 Opsianos: Oh
17:46 Opsianos: For the ending
17:46 Opsianos: I would suggest using different sliders instead of letters lol
17:46 Daoski: rip
17:46 Daoski: my 10 minutes of effort sliders
17:46 Opsianos: I mean
17:46 Opsianos: The heart's fine
17:46 Daoski: ur against the letters?
17:46 Opsianos: But writing with sliders usually looks crude and unprofessional lol
17:47 Daoski: is there a section on rankable letters?
17:47 Opsianos: I mean
17:47 Daoski: cuz there r indeed maps with letters much worse than this :o
17:47 Opsianos: I think it's rankable
17:47 Daoski: that r ranked
17:47 Opsianos: This is just personal opinion lol
17:47 Opsianos: I don't think they play too well
17:47 Opsianos: But they're not messy/sloppy
17:48 Daoski: these letters? hmm ok ill remember that
17:48 Opsianos: I'd advise you to ask for more opinion
17:48 Opsianos: Cause that's just me being kind of picky
17:48 Daoski: ok ok
17:48 Daoski: so what im getting from you for these letters is:
17:48 Daoski: 1) they look fine, but still suggest an alternative
17:49 Daoski: 2) i forgot the reason u told me to change them again lul
17:49 Daoski: o they dont play well
17:49 Opsianos: Yeah and it doesn't look very nice either
17:49 Opsianos: Not that you didn't make them good
17:49 Opsianos: But I don't think sliders themselves look that great in letters
17:49 Opsianos: Again personal opinion though
17:49 Daoski: o
17:50 Opsianos: Moving a bit back
17:50 Opsianos: 01:17:525 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) -
17:50 Opsianos: I'd suggest remapping this into something more exciting
17:50 Opsianos: Or at least
17:50 Opsianos: 01:19:419 (4) -
17:50 Opsianos: Replace it with a stream cause I think that'd sound pretty good and it fits into the song
17:51 Daoski: o
17:51 Opsianos: Cause the music is rather intense at that point and it's not very rhythmically interesting compared to the rest of the kiai
17:51 Daoski: good idea ill probably do the latter
17:51 Daoski: ok i completely see what u mean
17:51 Daoski: i just didnt want to overmap and probably held back too muchfor a kiai
17:51 Daoski: will do sir
17:52 Opsianos: Yeah I was really worried about overmapping too before
17:52 Opsianos: But after looking at popular ranked maps
17:52 Opsianos: The mapper adds short bursts and triples when there isn't really anything in the music that's like that
17:52 Opsianos: It just makes the map more fun and it sounds good and not out of place
17:53 Daoski: lol ill try and look for those ^^
17:53 Opsianos: Also this is personal opinion too
17:53 Daoski: is there anything else u want to say for the kiai? i was kinda hoping u'd look at 01:30:156 (1,1) -
17:53 Opsianos: Hm?
17:54 Daoski: i need to do this better but idk how to transition it properly
17:54 Opsianos: I mean the ending is pretty good
17:54 Opsianos: Just some combo errors but nothing major
17:54 Opsianos: Oh actually
17:54 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:54 Opsianos: Maybe shorten this to the previous white tick?
17:55 Opsianos: Since 01:36:314 (1) - is that length
17:55 Opsianos: And the vocal stops at that white tick too
17:55 Daoski: hmm ok
17:55 Daoski: changed
17:55 Opsianos: Okay one more thing I believe
17:55 Opsianos: Again this is personal opinion
17:56 Opsianos: 01:25:419 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
17:56 Opsianos: I would suggest adding some more variation here
17:56 Opsianos: Doesn't have to be too much IMO
17:56 Daoski: hmm so do u want me to just move each pair around in a more diverse fashion?
17:57 Daoski: i think the distance spacing between them is fine and shouldnt be changed imo
17:57 Opsianos: Ehh no they're fine structurally
17:57 Opsianos: I'm just talking about the rhythm
17:57 Opsianos: Like maybe make this into a slider
17:57 Opsianos: 01:26:367 (1,2) -
17:57 Opsianos: To emphasize the downbeat of 01:26:367 (1) -
17:57 Daoski: o ok
17:57 Opsianos: Basically what you did here
17:57 Opsianos: 01:25:104 (3) -
17:58 Daoski: right
17:58 Daoski: it doesnt match up with my hitsound with what i have currently
17:58 Opsianos: Hmm
17:58 Opsianos: Out of curiosity
17:58 Opsianos: Did you want this slider to be more wavy
17:58 Opsianos: 01:35:209 (1) -
17:59 Daoski: not really
17:59 Opsianos: Ah okay nvm then
17:59 Daoski: the vocal is a flat A sound
17:59 Daoski: so i didnt think it warranted more waviness
18:00 Daoski: BTW
18:00 Opsianos: Yeah that's fine
18:00 Opsianos: Hm?
18:00 Daoski: is it alright if i could ask for ur opinion on my blanketing for 2 parts?
18:00 Opsianos: Also I think that's basically it from my end
18:00 Opsianos: lol sure
18:00 Opsianos: I'm sloppy with blanketing though cause I use a lot of weird sliders
18:00 Opsianos: The map looked pretty clean with blankets though
18:01 Opsianos: I'd advise getting someone from #modhelp or something to help you with NC's more by the way
18:01 Daoski: 01:12:946 (2,4) - this got pointed out by a mod and just wanted to ask if this was ok?
18:01 Opsianos: Uhh
18:01 Daoski: ye these mods were from modhelp if i ever referred to them
18:01 Opsianos: I don't really see the problem with it
18:01 Opsianos: Cause it 01:12:946 (2) - blankets 01:12:472 (3) - perfectly
18:02 Daoski: 1 more
18:02 Daoski: 01:37:735 (1,3,1) - this might be hard but this is ok too?
18:02 Opsianos: Honestly if someone said the word "blanket" on this map while modding I'd think they're grasping at straws
18:02 Opsianos: Well yeah that's fine too
18:02 Daoski: oh it was because when i first mapped this
18:03 Daoski: ppl were telling me o its good note placement and flow concept
18:03 Daoski: BUT NO DISTANCE SNAPPING OR BLANKET >:
18:03 Opsianos: Cause 01:38:840 (3) - blankets 01:37:735 (1) -
18:03 Daoski: and then had to remap :c
18:03 Opsianos: Well this map's really clean aesthetically IMO
18:03 Opsianos: If anything I'd say it's TOO clean lol
18:03 Opsianos: But again personal taste
18:04 Daoski: ;_; im so happy to hear that lol
18:04 Opsianos: That's definitely personal taste
18:04 Opsianos: So yeah blankets are good :D
18:04 Opsianos: Looks like you worked hard to make them perfect xP
18:04 Daoski: ;_; u have no idea
18:05 Daoski: first time blanketer
18:05 Opsianos: xD
18:05 Daoski: do u think the intensity of notes is inconsistent with intensity of music anywhere else except what u've highlighted so far? (aka 01:19:261 (3,4) - )
18:05 Daoski: im willing to push it up a couple more stars, despite losing the .69
18:05 Daoski: feelsbadman
18:06 Opsianos: lmao
18:06 Opsianos: Let's see
18:06 Opsianos: 00:59:051 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:06 Opsianos: I'd say to make sure that the jumps that you did along with the piano should be smaller in spacing than this
18:07 Opsianos: Since that buildup is more exciting than the relative tranquility of the song
18:08 Opsianos: Other than that it's basically it
18:08 Daoski: alright sounds good, i dont really have any other stuff to bother u with then :O TYVM
18:08 Opsianos: np :D
18:08 Opsianos: Oh right
18:08 Opsianos: This is a bit personal
18:08 Opsianos: But I don't think it has to be AR 9.5 xP
18:08 Opsianos: Unless that's what you're aiming for
18:09 Daoski: hm
18:09 Opsianos: Maybe 9.2 or 9.3
18:09 Daoski: it was either 9.3 or 9.5
18:09 Daoski: hm ok
18:09 Daoski: ill try 9.3 since i like it too, and give it a shot


Good luck with the map! :)
thanks boss
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15:17 sinn: ello nice map /o
15:17 *sinn is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1114486 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Re:FinaL]]
15:17 Daoski: o? ty ty :D
15:17 sinn: btw mind i suggest ncing this 01:27:630 (3) -
15:17 Daoski: kk ive applied that just now, thanks ^^!
15:18 sinn: also
15:18 sinn: why is od lower than the other extra
15:18 sinn: should be 8.7-9 tbh
15:18 Daoski: i didnt really think about that
15:18 sinn: i would go with 8.7 since i think you're aiming for 8.5-8.6 on the insane>extra
15:19 Daoski: ok that sounds reasonable
15:20 sinn: just my opinion but try experimenting with ncing 00:24:156 (4) - ?
15:22 Daoski: idk having a newcombo placed under a slidertail is pretty strange (purely imo)... and furthermore, i just nc'd following the cymbols in the music which are placed as shown :s
15:22 sinn: yeah its fine rn lel
15:23 Daoski: i can see why'd you say that because of the way the ncs were done for the piano bit just before it but bleh ;c
15:23 sinn: also on the line of like signifying a changing sv(altho its not big 0.9>0.8)
15:23 sinn: changing slider speed*
15:23 Daoski: o that does sound pretty logical
15:24 Daoski: i think ill leave it alone for now tho... :u
15:25 sinn: yeah sure
15:25 sinn: move this abit outwards? 00:15:945 (3) -
15:26 sinn: to make a larger triangle?
15:26 Daoski: uh i intended on making it a square
15:26 sinn: oh
15:26 sinn: lol
15:26 sinn: that works too i guess
15:26 sinn: i dint realise it was a square ;P
15:27 Daoski: lol :P the hidden geometry op
15:27 sinn: idk i guess it felt more natural with a triangle
15:27 sinn: since the previous one was a triangle
15:28 sinn: btw mind i ask
15:28 sinn: whats the reason for not ncing the likes 00:34:893 (2) -
15:29 Daoski: hmm
15:29 Daoski: oh
15:29 sinn: starts on a vocal
15:29 Daoski: its because its been suggested that i only nc the strong notes
15:29 sinn: oh
15:29 sinn: well
15:29 sinn: thats true
15:29 sinn: lel
15:29 Daoski: i was told to do otherwise
15:29 Daoski: i initially did have double ncs like u pointed out
15:30 sinn: well
15:30 sinn: if so
15:30 sinn: actually
15:30 sinn: i just realised
15:30 sinn: it would make combo too long
15:30 sinn: cause i realised 00:47:209 (1) -
15:30 sinn: then if u removed nc it would become too long
15:33 sinn: well
15:33 sinn: make 01:08:051 (1,2) - a little bit bigger to emphasize the part
15:33 sinn: should be bigger imo even by a little
15:34 Daoski: 01:07:735 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - im pretty sure the whole section of circles increases accurately
15:34 Daoski: so ur saying i should spread them even more?:o
15:35 sinn: wait did i accidentally move it
15:35 sinn: ok i think i did
15:35 sinn: what do you think about 01:08:367 (1) - then
15:36 Daoski: mmm
15:36 Daoski: i think the distance spacing fits the balance nicely... not overmapped and not undermapped
15:37 sinn: well alright
15:37 sinn: altho i think its highest at 01:08:367 (1) -
15:37 Daoski: i mean if u think i should space the entire section a bit farther i dont mind :)
15:38 Daoski: im pretty sure i made the DS follow the intensity of the music's volume
15:38 Daoski: since the volume increases every 2 snares
15:39 sinn: well yes
15:39 sinn: but 01:07:735 (1,2) - and 01:08:209 (2,1) - almost has the same distance
15:39 sinn: but 01:08:367 (1) - is "peaking" before the slowdown at 01:08:525 (2) -
15:39 Daoski: hmm ok
15:40 Daoski: i get what ur saying and ill make a change to it right now
15:40 Daoski: but just to clarify:
15:40 Daoski: 01:08:367 (1,2) - u want me to decrease the spacing here because it slows down?
15:41 Daoski: so the highest DS in the section is in01:08:051 (1,2) -
15:41 sinn: should be 01:08:209 (2,1) - if u ask me lel
15:42 Daoski: i dont think so xd
15:42 Daoski: 6 circles
15:43 Daoski: because the change in volumes occur at the ncs
15:45 sinn: ah ok
15:45 sinn: well true
15:45 sinn: btw
15:46 sinn: just to go back to the beginning since i forgot to to mention,but a triangle imo is more natural for 00:15:630 (1,2,3) -
15:47 Daoski: is that not a triangle LOL
15:47 Daoski: u just highlighted a triangle :o
15:48 Daoski: technically, a square is just 2 triangles so it still is a triangle <3
15:48 Daoski: alright... u may be right... BUT
15:49 Daoski: 00:14:367 (1,2,3,4,5) - u see the triangle
15:49 Daoski: 00:15:630 (1,2,3,4,5) - u see the square
15:49 Daoski: 00:16:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - u see the pentagon
15:49 Daoski: booooooooooooooooooooom lol
15:50 Daoski: so thats why im not going to remove the square part, sry :s
15:50 sinn: oh
15:50 sinn: alright
15:50 sinn: so basically its like
15:50 sinn: escalating from triangle to square to penta?
15:50 Daoski: yeah
15:51 Daoski: i felt like the piano gets more distinct
15:51 Daoski: so i just did it like that ._.
15:52 sinn: btw for 01:07:735 (1,2,1,2,1) - are u gonna increase the spacing of the whole thing or just 01:08:367 (1) -
15:53 Daoski: whole thing
15:53 Daoski: so right now the Ds for each pair goes like this
15:53 Daoski: 2.8 , 3, 3.2 i think
15:53 Daoski: it increments linearly
15:53 sinn: alright
15:53 sinn: btw
15:53 Daoski: so im probably either gonna 1. increase the linear increment or 2. increase the base DS for each
15:54 sinn: wait so
15:54 sinn: the current ver 01:08:209 (2,1) -
15:54 sinn: is 3.2?
15:54 Daoski: yeah
15:54 Daoski: i think so
15:55 Daoski: lemme double check
15:55 sinn: 3.2
15:55 sinn: would be alot further
15:55 Daoski: oh the green point goofs it up
15:55 Daoski: nope
15:55 Daoski: its 3.4
15:56 Daoski: o
15:56 Daoski: the spread is actually:
15:56 Daoski: so apparently
15:56 Daoski: 3, 3.4, 3.8
15:57 sinn: btw ur talking abt ds x3.8 right
15:57 sinn: just to clarify first
15:57 Daoski: yeah
15:57 sinn: ok so
15:57 sinn: my current 1 is https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6419597 and i changed it to 3.2 and looks like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6419601
15:57 sinn: isint current one less than 3
15:58 Daoski: no
15:58 Daoski: current 1 is 3
15:58 sinn: oh
15:58 Daoski: o wait
15:58 Daoski: i overmapped it already
15:58 Daoski: i forgot
15:58 Daoski: i fixed it so its 3, 3.4, 3.8
15:59 sinn: well im kinda lost but i figure that u can adjust on your own
15:59 sinn: well since this part 01:07:735 (1,2,1,2,1) - volume increasing
15:59 sinn: why not put green lines to increase volume to emphasize it
16:00 Daoski: i didnt hitsound that far yet
16:00 sinn: oh
16:00 sinn: lel
16:00 Daoski: im doing the custom hitsounds and proper volume changes as we speak and since we've met lol
16:00 sinn: now that you mention
16:00 sinn: i realize the kial is kinda empty
16:00 sinn: lel
16:01 Daoski: :)
16:01 sinn: tbh the diffi is really good lel
16:01 sinn: so i have nothing much to say
16:02 Daoski: cool :D
16:03 sinn: actually
16:03 sinn: mind i ask whats the ds between 01:18:314 (2,3) - and 01:18:946 (2,3) -
16:03 sinn: should be larder for the 2nd one
16:03 Daoski: 2.4
16:03 Daoski: and its constantly 2.4
16:04 Daoski: up til the end of the star
16:04 Daoski: nvm
16:04 Daoski: the star is 2.6*
16:04 Daoski: the double into slider part is 2.4 tho
16:04 sinn: i would increase 01:18:946 (2,3) - to 2.5
16:04 sinn: lel
16:05 Daoski: what do u mean increase
16:05 Daoski: its at 2.6 lol
16:05 sinn: o rly
16:05 Daoski: the star is entirely 2.6
16:05 Daoski: 01:18:156 (1,2,3) - these kind things are 2.4
16:05 Daoski: do yuou want me to evenly increment them like i did for the other part
16:05 Daoski: 01:17:525 (1,2,3) - so like i make this 2.4, right
16:06 Daoski: 01:18:156 (1,2,3) - increment to 2.5
16:06 Daoski: 01:18:788 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this star is 2.6 so im leaving it alone
16:06 sinn: ye
16:06 Daoski: ok ok
16:06 Daoski: will do
16:07 sinn: also u should increase the ds from 01:19:577 (6,7) -
16:07 sinn: well if u ask me
16:07 Daoski: oh
16:08 sinn: also to ai mod 00:54:788 - has 2 timing points
16:08 Daoski: because its highlighted by the toms in the bgm
16:08 Daoski: ur right
16:08 Daoski: fixed
16:08 Daoski: and i incremented 6,7 too
16:09 sinn: btw
16:09 sinn: is widescreen support necessary lel
16:09 Daoski: i have no clue what it does
16:09 Daoski: but i have widescreen so i left it on :D
16:13 sinn: tbh i thought it was like if u have video then u leave it on but some mapset with video no widescreen so idk lel
16:13 sinn: ok this sounds stupid but clarifying its re: not re; right
16:13 Daoski: lol
16:14 Daoski: :
16:14 Daoski: did i mistakenly leave a ; somewhere
16:14 sinn: no
16:14 sinn: just clarifying
16:15 sinn: i suggest either adding retryment or re tryment to tags
16:15 sinn: since searching re:tryment will just bring it back to retryment
16:15 sinn: and then not being able to find the map
16:16 Daoski: ok
16:16 Daoski: ill leave a retryment tag :)
16:17 Daoski: mmm do i do both just to be safe?:D
16:17 sinn: ye sure
16:17 sinn: u should prolly check later with someone who knows tag
16:17 Daoski: tbh
16:18 Daoski: i just taxed all the tags (excluding gd tags) from everyoen else :D
16:18 Daoski: ill add this now tho
16:18 sinn: : :
16:18 Daoski: cuz for some reason :'s are ignored ;D
16:18 sinn: ya lol
16:18 sinn: ; isint
16:18 sinn: but : is
16:19 sinn: put relief in tags too or re lief
16:19 sinn: since re:lief dosent work either
16:19 Daoski: LOL fuckin colons man
16:20 Daoski: wait
16:20 Daoski: its fine if i tag it like
16:20 Daoski: "re lief tryment"
16:20 Daoski: i dont need to repeat re twice?
16:20 sinn: ye its fine
16:20 sinn: no need to repeat
16:21 sinn: well
16:21 sinn: apparently typing re tryment in game i can find ur map
16:21 sinn: on website cant
16:22 Daoski: i just did all possible permutations of those 2 words LOL
16:22 Daoski: without repeating re
16:23 sinn: LOL
16:23 sinn: xD
16:24 sinn: well that should be all i think
16:24 sinn: solid map lel
16:24 sinn: i actually thought it was completed till i read description ;xxx
16:24 sinn: also just personal preference why is the preview point at where you put it right now?
16:24 Daoski: yep
16:25 Daoski: uh
16:25 sinn: imo the preview point very out of place lol
16:25 Daoski: would u preview at the kiai or something lol
16:26 sinn: try 01:09:472 -
16:26 sinn: ?
16:26 Daoski: would u like to point out a more ideal position lol
16:26 Daoski: o
16:26 Daoski: hm ok
16:26 Daoski: since u suggested ill follow it
16:26 sinn: up to you to experiment
16:28 sinn: but that should suffice
16:29 Daoski: do u want to map a gd lul
16:30 sinn: idm trying
16:30 sinn: re try(ing)ment keepo
16:30 Daoski: kek
16:30 sinn: but what diffi
16:30 sinn: cuz i cant promise i will finish it lel
16:30 Daoski: what diffs do u prefer
16:30 Daoski: its fine, justneed to know what ur comfortable doing
16:31 sinn: insane-extra i guess
16:31 sinn: btw
16:31 Daoski: cuz i was hoping either 5.3* or 3.5*
16:31 sinn: is a 5.3 really necessary?
16:31 sinn: ye i read the desc
16:31 Daoski: idk do u think the spread is good enough?
16:31 Daoski: i just want to mellow the spread as nicely as possible lol
16:31 sinn: 5.3 isint necessary but its cool to have
16:31 sinn: 3.5 you need tho
16:32 Daoski: i can prob do the hard myself but
16:32 Daoski: can u map the 5.3 extra then lol
16:32 sinn: i think i should try 5.3
16:32 sinn: cuz even if i cant make it
16:32 Daoski: so i can have 3 extras and 3 insanes
16:32 sinn: the set should still be fine
16:32 sinn: ye i guess so
16:32 Daoski: alright cool
16:33 sinn: btw
16:33 sinn: should clarify with bandi but od8 on his diffi?
16:33 Daoski: if u want lol
16:33 sinn: should ask him first
16:34 Daoski: lol oh i rememer
16:34 Daoski: ok so
16:34 Daoski: bandi's diff was initially like 5.11
16:34 Daoski: i told him to shrink it
16:34 Daoski: and he prob forgot to turn the 4 modifiers accordingly
16:34 Daoski: ill change it, np
16:35 sinn: sure
16:35 Daoski: wait wat
16:35 Daoski: bandi's is OD7
16:35 sinn: ya
16:35 Daoski: i guess it magically changed itself :)
16:35 sinn: also y is arika hp5 ah
16:36 Daoski: isnt hp5 the default
16:36 sinn: hp6 is default for insanes fyi
16:36 Daoski: should it be lower
16:36 Daoski: o
16:36 sinn: extras can be different
16:36 Daoski: lul
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