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Megpoid GUMI - Carnival

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wcx19911123
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2011年6月25日 at 16:12:01

Artist: Megpoid GUMI
Title: Carnival
Source: otetsu
Tags: vocaloid vocaloid2 val0108 OzzyOzrock
BPM: 254
Filesize: 11264kb
Play Time: 03:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Carnival0108 (5 stars, 658 notes)
  2. Easy (0.63 stars, 137 notes)
  3. Hard (4.99 stars, 621 notes)
  4. Normal (3.23 stars, 256 notes)
  5. Ozzy's Taiko (4.83 stars, 1223 notes)
Download: Megpoid GUMI - Carnival
Download: Megpoid GUMI - Carnival (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 2nd beatmap

-----Staff-----
Easy/Normal/Hard : by me
Carnival0108 : by val0108
Ozzy's Taiko : by OzzyOzrock

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13805781
Hope you like it , enjoy > <
val0108
:) :) :)
Garven
Set BPM to 254.

Change your slider velocity to x 0.5
So Normal -> 0.80 and Hard + -> 1.10

No kudosu please.
Curisu
+star
KiriNoMorii
:)
chungskale
那個hard 是insane對吧! 對吧 ( * ◕ A◕);?

嘛...看了沒找到什麼大問題~ (只好來射星星了 *◕‿‿◕*
Snowy Dream
神图 ~ Star~
Curisu
offset 40130 +一根原速的红线调重音
你已经神到一种境界了wcx触神 :D
val0108
a bit change~
http://puu.sh/1y22
banvi
[General]
move "otetsu" to source
combo color 4 is very similar to 1 & 3... You should change another color about 4.

Easy
You must raise at least HP+2 & AR+2 & OD+2.
00:28:319 (n) break time?

[Normal]
00:28:319 (n) break time?

[Hard]
00:28:319 (n) break time?
00:30:681 (2) hmm , can you make visible reverse arrow?
02:35:878 (8,1) uh... nice idea but very confused spacing... You should make more clearly.

[0108's Insane]
omg , val's map lol
Oni hentai map , but fine to me~

overall very nice map!! :)
go go carnival~
Topic Starter
wcx19911123
Fixed some
Thanks

Waiting for further modding...
Nymph
新人妮姆芙膜拜WCX神MAPPER
Dear-mastk
:oops:
R a f E L
:lol:
Zelos
You absolutely need these 2 uninherited timing sections for the metronome to be back on track.

Offset: 34,696ms BPM: 254.00
Offset: 42,018ms BPM: 254.00

Star because its a nice map overall.
poisonedblood
Random Mod, I liked the song! :)
Just suggestions, don't change what you don't want to.

[Easy]
[00:34:697] Maybe change the it to a 2 beat slider? and add a slider or a circle on either [00:35:642] or [00:36:114]?
[02:31:626] Maybe make this return slider 1/2 beat shorter?
[02:40:130] Maybe move it 1 beat earlier?

[Normal]
[01:34:933] Maybe make this a 2 beat slider like the others?

[Hard]
[00:26:666] Maybe move it 1/2 later?
[00:43:319] Maybe move 2, 1/2 beat later, and 3 & 4, 1 beat later?
[00:46:036] Maybe move 2 & 3, 1/2 later?
[00:48:398] Maybe move 4, 1/2 beat later and delete 5?
[00:56:193] Maybe move it 1/2 beat later?
[01:26:902] Maybe move it 1 beat later and remove 1 reverse arrow?
[02:36:232] Maybe move it 1/2 beat earlier?
[02:45:209] Maybe move it 1/2 beat later, make it 1/2 shorter and add a circle where it started originally?
[02:45:681] Add a circle?
[02:46:154] Maybe move it 1/2 beat later, make it 1/2 shorter and add a circle where it started originally?
[02:46:626] Add a Circle?
[02:47:571] ^
[02:48:162] ^
[02:48:988] Maybe move it 1/2 beat later, make it 1/2 shorter and add a circle where it started originally?
[02:50:051] Add a circle?
[03:25:366] ^
[03:25:839] ^
[03:26:311] ^
[03:27:729] ^
[03:28:083] ^
[03:28:201] ^
[03:29:146] ^
[03:29:618] ^
[03:30:563] ^
[03:31:508] ^
[03:31:744] ^

[108's Insane]
[02:20:642] Add a circle?
[02:21:114] ^
NF3
[Easy]
00:36:351 2,3- It would sound better, if u move those 2 elements 2 ticks back.

Thats all. O:
Also a star for this map. :3
Btw my first mod. ._.
-Lennox-
I highly suggest you to set the AR on HARD to 8 and rename to insane and insane to Extra diff. A hard diff with 5 stars? Are u kidding me?

0108 Insane: 01:12:256 (1) - Unrankable slider
01:48:162 (1) - ^

No kudo
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
按照v家惯例,otetsu作为composer放到source里而不是tag

[Easy]
00:10:366 (2) - 我一向支持hold slider的但这实在太难看了,后面难度同,不赘述。
00:34:697 (1,2,3) - 这里乱七八糟,2和3改成从00:36:587 - 开始的一个4拍slider好很多
02:31:626 (3) - 跟随节奏不明,还有那个tick的位置你没感觉到什么么……
……这么快的歌何必要做到这么Easy

[Normal]
AR+2
00:36:823 (4,5) - 为什么突然和前面不接了。前面是vocal,这里突然改打空拍,全挪前1拍?
01:43:437 (4) - 折返放whistle。主要是考虑你加的普遍太单调了,这种明显的段落承接点还是表现下吧。(而且音调也有骤增)
02:51:469 (6) - 结尾点同上

[Hard]
分数明显太高了(和Insane差不多),主要是note密度,254和127你全放1/4连打是一个概念,建议斟酌。另外很多减速slider也建议再考虑(有没有必要都要0.5x?),这个难度可能需要多动些。有需要的话让我recheck吧

[0108's Insane]
00:27:374 (6) - finish (maybe 80% volume)
00:54:540 (1,3) - move them left a bit for symmetry effect.
01:07:295 (1,2,1) - just stack? also maybe move them farther from 01:06:823 (3) -
01:12:256 (1) - probably unrankable thing as i told you. though i hope you could keep it.
01:23:595 - 01:25:248 break is <2s, just remove plz.
01:38:713 (1) - end at 01:40:012 (soft-hitwhistle)? notes appear just 1/2 after a spinner... at 254 BPM ...emm evil
01:48:162 (1) - ^^^
03:07:295 (1) - end 1/1 earlier?
really nice diff.
Kurosanyan
[General]
  1. Source: Vocaloid, and remove it from tags.
  2. Why slider tick rate 0,5? It's way better with slider tick rate 1.
  3. I don't think there should be hold sliders for Easy and Normal diff :/ Way too hard for beginners.
[Easy]
  1. Approach Rate is too slow, +2 or +1 please.
[Normal]
  1. Here too, Approach Rate is too slow, +3 or +2 please.
  2. Overall Difficulty +2 or +1.
[Hard]
  1. 02:35:878 (8,1) - Hell no, this anti jump is just horrible, stack it or space it but don't make it like this.
That's all :|
miku
:)
Topic Starter
wcx19911123
Edit:
Deleted combo color 4
Moved otetsu to source
Etc.

Waiting for val0108's updating

And thanks you all > <
Gamu
hi :)

good map!

I like GUMI!!
Mok
For me is really okay! :P Good Job and Star!
LirsRosso
?
Kamure
Eh, sorry for the delay.

Here's the mod:

Offset: -20 ms?

[Easy]
  1. 00:10:366 (2) - ehh...... not not so favorable in an easy

Star!

Edit: 500 post sweetness...
_Kiva
Cool map :P
Ayeen_old
General:
Vbr mp3, but that should be fine. As long as it in range (192-128kbps)
Easy:
Should be ok. But more like a boring friggin slow to me >.>
Hitsound volume = 100%

Normal:
Should be good
Hitsound volume=100%

Hard:
As previous post said, should rename it to insane. Some pattern inside this is way too hard for "hard". Even star rating is 5.00
If you insist on keeping the name to "hard", here is some pattern suggestion you should look at:
[1]Remove 0.5 inherited timing
[2]00:30:209 (1,2,3) pattern = remap
[3]01:40:603 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) pattern
[4]02:15:445 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) pattern
[5]02:19:815 (7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7)pattern
[6]02:27:847 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Nothing is wrong, but randomness is confusion here. a.k.a not very good for hard
[7]02:29:264 (9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) pattern here not so "tough"though

Honestly this difficulty is good for Insane, but very bad for hard. For me, I stay with original map and do some name changes rather than remap again

Insane:
More like approval's map to me. Such speed same like this Strange Program
Way to hard for me to mod~
But uhm, what this?
SPOILER

"dirty mind of mine is dirty. Nya ha ha"
SiU_LeAf
小葉是沙包所以以下只是沙包mod,
小葉是來自wmf's Queue的

[easy]
02:22:177 (1,2) - 你其他slider都是只有1個箭咀, 所以小葉不太喜歡這裏有兩個.

[Normal]
00:36:823 (4) - 左1格
02:22:650 (1,2,3,4,5) - 小葉覺得這裏可以做得更好, 試試打開.osu換成以下的code(?)
104,108,142650,5,2
224,200,143122,1,2
72,192,143595,1,2
200,112,144067,1,2
144,252,144540,1,2
03:15:799 (6) - 右1格

[Hard]
02:35:878 (8,1) - 這間距建議改掉

insane小葉mod不出甚麼來了...
Garven
[General]
Insane_BG is noticeably lower quality. Think you can find one that isn't so fuzzy?

[Normal]
01:21:705 (5,6) - This overlap is pretty ugly. If you want to cross sliders like this, it's best to either have the hitcircle parts not covered by the slider body or have it completely covered. Halfway just looks tacky.
01:57:610 (1) - End this at 01:59:382 - ?
02:54:303 - Extend the break to start here like in val's diff
03:05:642 (1,2) - Another bad overlap
03:09:421 (1,2) - ^
03:22:650 (4,5) - ^
I probably missed some, but I'm sure you get the idea. I just think they look really bad for the presentation to me.

[Hard]
01:23:122 (9) - End this at 01:23:477 -
01:57:729 (1) - End this at 01:59:382 - ?
02:35:406 (7,8,1,2) - This doesn't read well at all. I really recommend you try a different pattern for this.
02:54:303 - Extend the break to start here like in val's diff

[0108's Insane]
00:41:547 (1) - I keep not expecting that last repeat ><
01:12:256 (1) - Yeah, these are awesome, but still unrankable, unfortunately.
Maybe try this?
256,216,72256,2,0,B|256:152|256:152|284:120|284:120|260:76|284:44|284:44|256:48|256:48|228:44|228:44|252:76|228:120|228:120|244:136,1,340
344,84,72965,2,0,B|360:104|360:144|324:180|324:180|320:208|368:272|256:372|144:272|192:208|188:180|188:180|152:144|152:104|168:84,1,510,0|8
If anything, it makes your 11 slider symmetrical. Applies to later copy/paste.
01:22:532 (1) - End this at 01:23:477 -
01:58:437 (1) - End this at 01:59:382 -
03:12:729 (1,2,3,4) - I suck at these. ;_;
val0108
sorry... I late >_>

Garven wrote:

[General]
Insane_BG is noticeably lower quality. Think you can find one that isn't so fuzzy?ok. High quality!!

[0108's Insane]
00:41:547 (1) - I keep not expecting that last repeat >< sorry no.
01:12:256 (1) - Yeah, these are awesome, but still unrankable, unfortunately.oo! cool slider. thank you:3
Maybe try this?
256,216,72256,2,0,B|256:152|256:152|284:120|284:120|260:76|284:44|284:44|256:48|256:48|228:44|228:44|252:76|228:120|228:120|244:136,1,340
344,84,72965,2,0,B|360:104|360:144|324:180|324:180|320:208|368:272|256:372|144:272|192:208|188:180|188:180|152:144|152:104|168:84,1,510,0|8
If anything, it makes your 11 slider symmetrical. Applies to later copy/paste.
01:22:532 (1) - End this at 01:23:477 - done!
01:58:437 (1) - End this at 01:59:382 - done!
03:12:729 (1,2,3,4) - I suck at these. ;_;hahahahahaha XDDD


Download: Megpoid GUMI - Carnival (wcx19911123) [0108's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
wcx19911123
Edit:
Fixed break time
Changed insane BG
Updated 0108's Insane
Etc.

@Garven : Sorry , but I think overlap sliders like this is OK , at least it's readble.
And I don't know why to end a spinner at a red line not a white line , I think end at a white line is sound better.
HeatKai
got a request from crimmi queue ;)

[general]
there is something not enough , i don't know why . at easy and normal diff. I think you should put some circle at the place that have beat not the "stuck voices" . I think :\

IMPORTANT:WHY [HARD] AND [INSANE] MARKS ALMOST THE SAME? I THINK HARD OVERMAPPED WITH THE STREAM TRY TO REDUCE IT

[Easy]
00:08:477 (1) - extend the slider until 00:09:894
00:10:366 (2,1) - with this two , I think for easy , people hard to read it =.=
00:36:823 (3) - starts from 00:36:587
03:29:264 (3) - make like this http://puu.sh/1R1H

[normal]
00:15:799 (x) - put a circle with finish

[hard]
02:36:232 (1) - no no , make it other place so its readable.
arrange follow other circle too , make it straight.

[Insane]
maybe nothing :\
I cannot see anything too fast :o
I think got spacing problem =.=
April_old
star :D
Chacha17
General
-vocaloid2 - remove that in the tags

Easy
00:10:366 (2,1) - unstack
00:36:351 (2) - clap

Normal
00:49:343 (6) - clap
00:55:248 (3) - remove whistle
01:30:681 (3) - ^
01:35:406 (4) - ^

Hard
00:08:004 (3) - awkward.
00:15:563 (6) - ^
00:23:122 (6) - ^
02:35:878 (8,1,2) - spacing


Insane
approach rate -1 (for the love of god)
01:14:382 (1) - remove new combo
03:16:980 - awkward end, you might want to consider mapping it as the same length as the three other diffs?
HellDawn
8-)
HakuNoKaemi
[General]
Flashing in Kiai is really fast: Half the BPM(127), double the Slider Velocity(0,8-1,5-2,2-3,4) and Recalculate Slider Lengths...
[Easy]
00:10:366 (2) - With this Circle Size, Slider Shapes like this arent good... try this http://puu.sh/1S6Y?
SPOILER
312,192,10366,2,0,B|320:168|320:168|304:176|304:176|304:152|304:152|288:160|288:160|284:144|284:144|268:152|268:152|256:136|256:136|244:152|244:152|228:144|228:144|224:160|224:160|208:152|208:152|208:176|208:176|192:168|192:168|200:192,1,280.000004172325
or at least a least Add a note to 00:09:894 (2) - and try a Beat Blanket(http://puu.sh/1S6N) ?
(Remember to remove overlaps)
[Normal]
00:11:311 (5) - Try like this? http://puu.sh/1S7k
SPOILER
452,192,11311,2,0,B|466:203|466:203|449:205|449:205|462:225|462:225|445:227|445:227|451:243|451:243|433:245|433:245|432:265|432:265|413:259|413:259|405:275|405:275|392:264|392:264|384:280|384:280|372:264,1,225
[Hard]
Good
Just many Streams that could make this be called an Insane
[0108's Insane]
Uh,Fast ( just can't mod Insane's well XD), but that was good :D

Overall, The mapset is Well done!
Yomeiro
Mod4Mod :3~

Easy

No problems with Easy~
Seems fine to me :3

Normal

Same as Easy~
No problems here~

Insane

Insane is pretty hard for me, but seems fine nonetheless~

Hard

I have some personal problems with this map probably.
It feels overmapped at some parts and too me, as if those parts then don't fit the music.
After repeatedly playing this song though (for the 5th or 6th time) I kinda got used to it the parts felt "ok".
Would like to see if you could change the part, where you use different sliders and beats for a stream to an easier stream or easiert part~
(It's passable but kinda Hard in my opinion...)

Aww well, showed you some things ig but don't really need a change as I said something to that already~ :3

star~
Zelos

Zelos wrote:

You absolutely need these 2 uninherited timing sections for the metronome to be back on track.

Offset: 34,696ms BPM: 254.00
Offset: 42,018ms BPM: 254.00

Star because its a nice map overall.
You need to add these uninherited timing sections!

Without these, this map is unrankable. Metronome must be correct at all times.
star story
:roll:
Neptunus
头一次MOD经验有限
HARD
00:51:587 - 最好添加NOTE吧,或者改成长音,不太好把握(2)slider,突然一慢下来是不是很容易MISS,毕竟快一分钟了.MISS很不舒服
00:51:705 - 同上
01:26:902 (6) - 可能是由于AR的关系,上面的红(1)slider的出现会不太关注reverse slider,隔得太紧?是不是紧贴rather than部分重叠要好一点..
01:44:146 (1) - 突然加速加上slider的长度会不会导致miss?弯曲一下使光标不出判定圈会不会好一些?
02:20:642 (2) (3)(4)换一种排列吧?
02:23:713 (5) - (6)(7)同上
02:35:878 (8) - 02:36:232 (1) 一定拉长距离啊!+65535

0108's Insane
00:19:579 (4) - 想想我们这些可怜的沙包手速吧,别这样 > <,我指的是接后面的(1)(2),这对指头爆发力要求很高啊
01:19:343 (4) - 建议NEW COMBO
01:53:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 别这样好么,仅仅是建议,
02:51:232 (1,2,1,2,3) - 拉长距离12和123之间

以上,star
Sallad4ever
hi wcx19911123

[General]
- the video is easily replaceable with SB cause it's basically just a static picture with lyrics, so I recommend to change the video to SB.

[Easy]
00:12:256 (1) - unstack this, the crumpled slider + stack make this note hard too read
02:31:626 (3) - I bet this repeat should be snapped on the white tick here

[Hard]
because of the streams I think this is more fit being an Insane
00:30:209 (1,2) - bad stack here, it almost hard to see which is the beginning & which is the repeat, I'd say spaced (2) even more or make it a jump

[0108's Insane]

00:19:579 (4,1,2) - don't really like how this play, I suggest to unstack (1) it'll flow better rather than stacking with (4)
01:22:532 (1) - the drum sound end in 01:23:595 so it should be snapped there and remove the whistle too, it doesn't fit with the music
01:58:437 (1) - ^ to 01:59:500

that's all from me, Good Luck
Star
K i R a
Hi ^^, good song :P and star~

Please notice all in my mod is suggestions (except offset).

General

Offset: 942

Easy

Approach Rate -1
-00:10:366 (2,1) - Too hard for an easy or normal for 2 reasons: First the slider (difficult to know when ends) and the hidding circle.

Normal

-00:11:311 (5,1) - Same than in easy. You can do larger the slider (in space) to see easier when it finish.

Hard

-00:12:256 (9) - New combo
-00:12:492 (1) - Remove new combo.
-00:30:681 (2) - Hidding reverse slider... Do a little more visible, its a hard and the people can confuse.
-00:50:996 (6) - New combo
-00:51:469 (1) - Remove new combo
-00:56:902 (6) - New combo
-00:57:138 (1) - Remove new combo
-01:13:673 (6) - New combo
-01:14:146 (1) - Remove new combo
-01:49:815 (8) - New combo
-01:50:051 (1) - Remove New combo
-01:53:595 (7) - NC (New combo)
-01:53:831 (1) - RNC (Remove New combo)
-02:14:618 (4) - NC
-02:15:445 (3) - RNC
-02:35:878 (8,1,2) - Unrankeable.
-03:11:075 (9) - NC
-03:11:311 (1) - RNC

Insane

-00:05:524 (5) - Align ok with the slider xD.
-00:08:122 (7) - Same

Insane is awesome!! Good luck.

Rating (song): 9.7
Rating (map): 9.3 (because you need to mod x) )

Bye ~
HakuNoKaemi
Well, you gave me the Kudosu but didn't followed the suggestions?
Why not usa the Codes of the Slider i gave you?
Topic Starter
wcx19911123
@val0108 : Here is translation

Neptunus wrote:

0108's Insane
00:19:579 (4) - Think for noobs,don't do this > <,I mean the following (1)(2),this is hard to play
01:19:343 (4) - Maybe NEW COMBO
01:53:595 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Don't do this plz,just suggestion,
02:51:232 (1,2,1,2,3) - Make the spacing bigger between 12 and 123
@Zelos : Really unrankble?It's the same when you play the map even it changed or not,maybe there's some differences when play in taiko/CTB?

@HakuNoKaemi : Sorry,but I only use your slider in Easy

OK,fixed some
Thanks you all
Aleks719
0108's Insane
pure sex

Hard
tick-rate 1 (your 0.5x sliders must be readable)
00:04:461 (1) - add whistle to the end
00:05:169 (4) - add whistle
00:10:366 (3) - add whistle
00:10:603 (4) - remove whistle
00:10:839 (6) - add whistle
00:12:729 (4) - add whistle to the start
00:14:618 (3) - ^
00:15:563 (6) - ^
00:16:508 (3) - ^
00:17:453 (6) - add whistle
00:18:398 (3) - add whistle to the start
00:18:870 (4) - add whistle to the start and to the end
00:19:343 (5) - add whistle to the start
00:20:288 (3) - add whistle to the start
... so... I hope you understand what i want to say. add whistles at every low middle white tick. And at the same place of patterns till the end of diff...
I won't say about this whistles here :)
01:00:917 (8) - remove whistle, finish only
02:35:878 (8,1) - pretty confused antijump

Normal
01:44:146 (5) - add note
03:31:154 (7,8,9) - make this :
Easy
02:31:626 (3) - make this :
m i z u k i
:oops:
Kert
[Easy]
00:10:366 (2) - End this slider on 00:11:784?
00:34:697 (1,2,3) - These sound really weird, can you maybe choose a more simple combination for an Easy?

I couldn't find anything else, sorry

Star
val0108
James2250
Seeing as Zelos told me about it, yes you need to add those timing points so the metronome matches up with everything correctly.

(It doesn't effect playing directly but it does change the pulsing on the main menu and it should be correct in any case)
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