GlassSkinned - The Flawless Wings of Yatagarasu [Osu|Taiko] · forum

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-15T16:05:48+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 4:38:06 PM

Artist: GlassSkinned
Title: The Flawless Wings of Yatagarasu
Source: 東方地霊殿　～ Subterranean Animism
Tags: Utsuho Reiuji Theme 東方 Touhou Project Nuclear Fusion Remix Newgrounds
BPM: 170
Filesize: 5073kb
Play Time: 00:00
Difficulties Available:

Aki's Easy (0 stars, 1 notes)
Hard (2.74 stars, 132 notes)
Normal (0 stars, 1 notes)
Ono's Oni (4.39 stars, 1091 notes)
Ryo's Lunatic (5 stars, 839 notes)
CookieBite's Insane (3.91 stars, 168 notes)

Download: GlassSkinned - The Flawless Wings of Yatagarasu
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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MASSIVE REWORK IN PROGRESS!

If you would like the most recent version of the old set, here's the link: https://puu.sh/uX5mp/a20fb766c2.osz

Easy: Akitoshi
Normal: Me
Hard: Me
Insane: CookieBite
Lunatic: RyoKazuka

Muzukashii: Possibly found someone
Oni: OnosakiHito

Last edited by _DT3 2017-03-26T14:38:40+00:00, edited 47 times in total.

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-16T20:42:27+00:00

Never use black combo colors.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-16T22:46:08+00:00

Cirno-baka9 wrote:
Never use black combo colors.

It kinda fits to the background though...

Battle

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Battle 2016-04-16T23:04:14+00:00

Black combo color is pretty bad because there's a lot of people who play with 100% dim

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-17T08:36:26+00:00

True, I could try adding in a easier visible easier visible outline... Maybe that works

OnosakiHito

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OnosakiHito 2016-04-17T14:45:02+00:00

I really have to find you another - authentic - BG. lol

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-17T15:30:11+00:00

But it would fit though: Yatagarasu is a myhical RAVEN. Also, will it be Utsuho Reiuji?

OnosakiHito

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OnosakiHito 2016-04-17T20:12:19+00:00

It must be Utsuho Reiuji, since it is her theme.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-17T20:39:50+00:00

Ok, then a new background is fine

. Has Okoratu spoken to you yet? He said he'd be gathering people for the Taiko part of this map.

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-18T21:10:02+00:00

Asaiga's Easy is both bad and unrankable.

Easy maps must have the same distance snap throughout the entire song.

Sliders must not look like trash.

Where the hitcircles, sliders, and slider ends are located must make logical sense.

Either delete this difficulty and let someone else map it, or have Asaiga remap it.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-18T21:26:41+00:00

Ok, I'll message him about that

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-18T21:27:29+00:00

Okay, good. I don't want the map to be disqualified because of a rushed difficulty.

Asaiga

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Asaiga 2016-04-19T05:18:55+00:00

Cirno-baka9 wrote:
Asaiga's Easy is both bad and unrankable.

Easy maps must have the same distance snap throughout the entire song.

Sliders must not look like trash.

Where the hitcircles, sliders, and slider ends are located must make logical sense.

Either delete this difficulty and let someone else map it, or have Asaiga remap it.

I should play more easy. Yeh, I will remap.
Consider this was a scratch.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-19T11:42:43+00:00

Ok, that's good. Message me when you're done!

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-19T18:03:33+00:00

The BG is now Utsuho Reiuji. I hope this makes you happy Ono xD.

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-19T20:09:35+00:00

One unrankable difficulty after another...

Normal maps (Standard) need the same exact distance snap throughout the entire map. The only exception to this that during kiai time, you are allowed to change distance snap from whatever your current one is to a new one. After kiai, you have to change the new one back to the current one, and if there is another instance of kiai, you have to change it back to the same one the first kiai used.

Since there is no kiai, you are forced to use the same distance snap throughout the entire difficulty.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-19T20:24:34+00:00

Are you talking about my Standard diff? I thought I used the same distance snap through out the whole current difficulty... Could you tell me where there is different DS there? (I am serious and nit trying to question you, I want to know where the DS is not fitting). Also, I noticed you didn't really add timing sections (for the volume, Kiai Time). Should I add THOSE in?

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-19T21:43:55+00:00

TurtleStuffs wrote:
Are you talking about my Standard diff? I thought I used the same distance snap through out the whole current difficulty... Could you tell me where there is different DS there? (I am serious and nit trying to question you, I want to know where the DS is not fitting).

00:11:294 (1) - This is off by a little bit, it needs to be exactly on it.
00:14:117 (1) - Obviously too big of a jump.

TurtleStuffs wrote:
Also, I noticed you didn't really add timing sections (for the volume, Kiai Time). Should I add THOSE in?

Add Kiai Time to every difficulty.
Change volume on every difficulty to 85%.

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-19T21:59:57+00:00

Ok, I'll be sure to do that. In case you're wondering about the kudosu, it REALLY helps me with the map. It helps me a lot with mapping too.

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-19T22:02:48+00:00

More stars for you ;3;/

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-19T22:04:06+00:00

Ok, didn't see that coming... (Seriously). Thanks for that! You really earn it though

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-25T19:34:37+00:00

Edit: I am currently waiting on all GDs. I don't need anymore GDs unless somebody drops out (or gets kicked). Once I finish my collab, there will be a mass update with all current GDs.

Edit 2: I can accept mods for the Kantan and Ultra Easy diff.

Underforest

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Underforest 2016-04-29T17:26:57+00:00

tbh I don't think this map can be ranked with a lot of difficulties

_DT3

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_DT3 2016-04-29T20:25:48+00:00

Well, some diffs might get removed, so it won't be that many diffs

Sylvette

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Sylvette 2016-04-29T21:27:03+00:00

Underforest wrote:
tbh I don't think this map can be ranked with a lot of difficulties

...yes it can...
Asaiga's Easy needs remap...again.

Last edited by Sylvette 2016-04-30T19:49:25+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

numbermaniac

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numbermaniac 2016-04-30T01:31:45+00:00

[Invective’s Kantan]

(Note that some of these numbers may be a bit off because I made my changes as I suggested them. The timestamp will point to the correct time though.)

You start off with too many reds. Change a couple of the notes to blues; maybe 00:08:470 (3), 00:12:705 (7) and 00:15:529 (10).

00:33:882 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - This is too long for Kantan. I’d say remove 32 and change 34 to a red.
00:44:470 (7) - Delete, otherwise it’s too long. Also gives a short break after the 1/1s.
00:50:117 (14) - Again maybe remove this.

The section from 01:20:470 (59) seems to go on for like 50 notes with no break.
01:25:411 (68) - You probably don’t need this.
01:27:882 (71,72,73,74) - Preferably go for a slightly easier pattern like ddkk or kkdd.
01:30:352 (76) - You could remove this.
01:36:705 (87) - Again this can be removed. As I said before I’m kinda just trying to give players a short break every now and then.
01:42:352 (95) - ^
01:47:999 (102) - ^
01:59:646 (121,122) - I’d change these to red to add a bit of variety; lots of blue here.
02:10:587 (141) - Consider deleting this for a short break.
02:21:882 (161) - Maybe remove this.

I’m concerned that after 02:23:999 (163) this turns into more of a Futsuu with lots of 1/1 spacings.

02:49:058 (211) - Remove this. Sounds better in my opinion.
03:14:470 (249) - Again I don’t think this is necessary.

Good luck

Fuel

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Fuel 2016-04-30T07:55:47+00:00

numbermaniac wrote:
[Invective’s Kantan]

(Note that some of these numbers may be a bit off because I made my changes as I suggested them. The timestamp will point to the correct time though.)

You start off with too many reds. Change a couple of the notes to blues; maybe 00:08:470 (3), 00:12:705 (7) and 00:15:529 (10). the sound is building up anyway, i'd prefer to start off with just reds and lead into the multicolor patterns when the percussion stuff starts

00:33:882 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - This is too long for Kantan. I’d say remove 32 and change 34 to a red. removed 32 and instead edited some of the 2/1 3-note patterns to maintain the buildup, i wanted to finish the section on k k k given the drumroll
00:44:470 (7) - Delete, otherwise it’s too long. Also gives a short break after the 1/1s. done
00:50:117 (14) - Again maybe remove this. done

simplified kiai slightly, giving more 4/1 breaks

The section from 01:20:470 (59) seems to go on for like 50 notes with no break.
01:25:411 (68) - You probably don’t need this. done
01:27:882 (71,72,73,74) - Preferably go for a slightly easier pattern like ddkk or kkdd. removed note at 01:28:588 instead, i believe that'll keep the 1/1 usage low enough for this part
01:30:352 (76) - You could remove this. given im following the sound of the melody here, i deleted 01:31:058 instead as that's just a repeated note and i'd rather keep a note on where the pitch changes
01:36:705 (87) - Again this can be removed. As I said before I’m kinda just trying to give players a short break every now and then. done as per the previous point for consistency
01:42:352 (95) - ^ done
01:47:999 (102) - ^ done
01:59:646 (121,122) - I’d change these to red to add a bit of variety; lots of blue here. in that section i intended for the blues to be used on the percussion sounds, this only occurs for about 12 seconds in any case
02:10:587 (141) - Consider deleting this for a short break. done
02:21:882 (161) - Maybe remove this. done

I’m concerned that after 02:23:999 (163) this turns into more of a Futsuu with lots of 1/1 spacings. agreed, i've edited it to tone the 1/1 down. ended up with more 3/1 rather than 4/1 spacing as a result of how i mapped it but i believe those breaks should be adequate

02:49:058 (211) - Remove this. Sounds better in my opinion. left it based on how i redid the latter half
03:14:470 (249) - Again I don’t think this is necessary. done

Good luck

Thanks a lot for the mod

updated

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:The Flawless Wings of Yatagarasu
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Creator:TurtleStuffs
Version:Invective's Kantan
Source:東方Project
Tags:Utsuho Reiuji Theme Touhou Subterannean Animism Nuclear Fusion Remix Newgrounds
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Asaiga

848 posts

Joined July 2013

Asaiga 2016-04-30T21:17:44+00:00

Cirno-baka9 wrote:
Asaiga's Easy needs remap...again.

Great, how should I do this.

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-04-30T21:52:11+00:00

Well, look at his Ultra Easy. For example the slider shapes look more clean and the DS is smaller

numbermaniac

206 posts

Joined January 2016

numbermaniac 2016-05-01T03:40:20+00:00

TurtleStuffs wrote:
Well, look at his Ultra Easy. For example the slider shapes look more clean and the DS is smaller

That low DS makes it really hard to read though. Especially some sections with the repeat sliders, they need to be a bit further apart because it's almost impossible to judge all the approach circles properly.

Aloda

osu! Alumni

444 posts

Joined November 2011

Aloda 2016-05-01T05:56:29+00:00

Hi!

General

If you're looking to get this ranked, you'll need at least two Taiko diffs, not just the one. Also, a few of your standard diffs have no Kiai sections. Do something about that.

Invective's Kantan

00:35:999 (32) - I disagree with numbermaniac about this. It feels very strange to have a gap here, and since it's 2/1 spacing it's absolutely fine even for a Kantan. Add a d.

Consider moving 02:24:352 (144) - 02:27:176 (148) - 02:29:999 (152) - and 02:32:823 (156) - forward one beat. I assume you've spaced them like this so that this section isn't all 2/1 spaced, but I think these notes are very awkward where they are and it's a lot more intuitive to play with them moved.

02:59:293 - 03:19:058 - This seems to be one of the calmer sections of the song to me, so it doesn't make sense to have it as Kiai. If you need a second Kiai section, I think 02:33:882 - 02:45:176 - fits a lot better

Good luck with your mapset!

Fuel

284 posts

Joined November 2014

Fuel 2016-05-01T06:57:50+00:00

Aloda wrote:
Hi!

General
If you're looking to get this ranked, you'll need at least two Taiko diffs, not just the one. Also, a few of your standard diffs have no Kiai sections. Do something about that. other mappers are taking the other diffs they just havent been uploaded yet

Invective's Kantan
00:35:999 (32) - I disagree with numbermaniac about this. It feels very strange to have a gap here, and since it's 2/1 spacing it's absolutely fine even for a Kantan. Add a d. yeah i did like having the notes mapped to the beeps anyway

Consider moving 02:24:352 (144) - 02:27:176 (148) - 02:29:999 (152) - and 02:32:823 (156) - forward one beat. I assume you've spaced them like this so that this section isn't all 2/1 spaced, but I think these notes are very awkward where they are and it's a lot more intuitive to play with them moved. agreed, changed

02:59:293 - 03:19:058 - This seems to be one of the calmer sections of the song to me, so it doesn't make sense to have it as Kiai. If you need a second Kiai section, I think 02:33:882 - 02:45:176 - fits a lot better i do agree that 02:33:882 - 02:45:176 is good for kiai but i chose this section because of the short bit with the drumroll leading into it. it sorta feels like the climax in a way. i'l wait for another opinion for now but i'll keep it in mind for sure since both the section you mentioned and the section before that from 02:22:587 were places i originally considered adding kiai to.

Good luck with your mapset!

Thanks a lot for the mod

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edit: forgot to add updated diff smh

Sylvette

332 posts

Joined July 2015

Sylvette 2016-05-01T23:19:40+00:00

numbermaniac wrote:
TurtleStuffs wrote:
Well, look at his Ultra Easy. For example the slider shapes look more clean and the DS is smaller
That low DS makes it really hard to read though. Especially some sections with the repeat sliders, they need to be a bit further apart because it's almost impossible to judge all the approach circles properly.

Yay hard reading

DDD

I'll fix this when I stop being a lazy piece of shit...maybe

polunochnik

123 posts

Joined June 2013

polunochnik 2016-05-02T11:41:03+00:00

Hellow! NM

Cirno-baka9's Ultra Easy
Most of the problems are here.
01:11:999 (3, 4) - for beginners, this part will be difficult
01:48:705 - 01:53:999 - same thing here. Too many objects covering each other
02:08:558 - spinner should appear after the previous objects disappear
02:37:940 - this slider is to short for easy mod + too many objects covering each other
02:43:587 - this slider is to short for easy mod

Ryo's Lunatic
01:07:588 - some thing wrong with distance between buttons here
just my opinion: 01:08:470 - that's crazy

. Never seen some thing like that before.

Ayyri's Insane
02:03:882 - I do not like some kind of a trap like this.

hydrosilver's Normal
Too large combos in my opinion. Ten in most cases enough.

There is still much to be done. Good luck with that!

Asaiga

848 posts

Joined July 2013

Asaiga 2016-05-02T16:07:54+00:00

wait, what about mine ; ^ ;

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-05-02T16:15:15+00:00

Oops, guess he missed yours, sorry, thought you were in there ;3;

Electoz

Beatmap Nominator

1,895 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2016-05-02T19:49:39+00:00

Hi, saw this on beatmap projects subforum and decided to give this a quick skim, everything I wrote down here is my honest opinion so if you don't like it then please remind that it's just an opinion.
Anyways

[Cirno-baka9's Ultra Easy]

Tbh I doubt this diff is really needed since this set already has Easy.
DS must be increased to the point that objects aren't overlapped, well you know beginners can't really handle overlaps in gameplay.
01:12:882 (4) - 2 or more repeats on a reverse slider is confusing, in easier diffs of course, if you're going to make a reverse slider then make it repeat only 1 time and that's it.
Making downbeat (aka big white tick) clickable will make players follow the music better, downbeats like 00:45:176 - 01:13:411 - 02:36:705 should be clickable.
02:37:940 (1) - No, we don't have 1/4 stuff in Easy, especially Ultra Easy. Stuff like 02:46:411 (1,2,3,1,2,3) is kinda hard for Easy as well, consider sth more simple pls.

[Asaiga's Easy]

01:11:999 (3,4) - DS error, I guess that's not important right now compared to other issues but I guess I'll just mention this anyways.
01:37:058 (3,4) - You shouldn't do stacks in Easy.
Something like 00:31:764 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) shouldn't be in Easy/Normal, stuff like this will force player to aim for circles and making them clicking objects consecutively, that's why most ranked maps have a larger number of sliders compared to circles(in easier diffs) cuz sliders are easier and more friendly to players.
Like, the most important issue in this diff is it barely has any flow at all, well you can see the box below of how flows should be.

[hydrosilver's Normal]

00:59:293 (2,3,4,5) - 01:06:352 (5,6) - Clearly too complicated for Normal, I'm referring to the way you stacked these things, there are a few more of this that I didn't mention.
Your way of putting a new combo is pretty much random, it's quite common nowadays to put a new combo on every 1 or 2 downbeats.

As I said earlier, it's just a quick skim, the suggestions I highlighted in blue means they apply to all diffs I modded here, if you have any question or sth you can ask me in game
Anyways that box below is useful, hope it helps and good luck~

Some tips I found useful

MokouSmoke wrote:
Rhythm:
Downbeats (big white ticks) are typically important beats in the song and should have a clickable object to represent them, especially if a strong sound from the music falls on this beat. Along those lines, if you have no idea when to add new combos (NCs), a simple way is to add a NC every downbeat or every 2 downbeats.
If you're following the drums/vocal/instrument in your song, don't just suddenly switch to mapping a different part of the song unless you have a strong reason to. Otherwise, you will confuse new players.
Flow:
Especially for lower diffs, you want to use nice flow. Maps that have nice flow feel smooth to play and reduce the number of jerky movements that a player has to make in between notes. Good flow allows players to also predict where the next note will be based on the shape/direction of the previous sliders/note. Some nice guides to flow can be found here and here.
Spacing:
Proper spacing is very important in maps. For lower diffs, consistent spacing helps newer players develop a relationship between time and distance between notes. See this for a longer explanation. For normal and easy diffs, it is highly recommended (almost an ironclad rule nowadays) that you keep distance snapping (DS) on for the entire map for the reason stated above.
For harder diffs, spacing is a key component in dictating how intense certain notes feel. In general, notes that land on strong beats (remember downbeats?) should have a larger spacing from the previous note so that it feels more emphasized and matches with intensity of the music
Aesthetics:
People like pretty maps, so make your maps pretty!
Blankets and how to improve them: A blanket is a type of visual pattern that can help make your sliders look neat. Please refer to this guide for help on how to make good blankets. I have found the simplest way is to look at the approach circle of the object you're blanketing and check to see if it lines up perfectly with the inner border of the slider you're using to blanket. Be careful when you're using blankets though, as sometimes a good blanket can lead to bad flow (see above).
Patterns and symmetry: pretty self-explanatory. Humans are drawn to patterns and symmetry, so try incorporating these into your map! A few good shortcuts to know when you're trying to improve your visuals:
ctrl+c/v -> copy/paste
ctrl+g -> reverse selection
ctrl+h/j -> flip horizontally/vertically
ctrl+shift+d -> create polygon

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-05-02T20:29:21+00:00

Electoz's Mod

Electoz wrote:
Hi, saw this on beatmap projects subforum and decided to give this a quick skim, everything I wrote down here is my honest opinion so if you don't like it then please remind that it's just an opinion.
Anyways

[Cirno-baka9's Ultra Easy]

Tbh I doubt this diff is really needed since this set already has Easy.
DS must be increased to the point that objects aren't overlapped, well you know beginners can't really handle overlaps in gameplay.
01:12:882 (4) - 2 or more repeats on a reverse slider is confusing, in easier diffs of course, if you're going to make a reverse slider then make it repeat only 1 time and that's it.
Making downbeat (aka big white tick) clickable will make players follow the music better, downbeats like 00:45:176 - 01:13:411 - 02:36:705 should be clickable.
02:37:940 (1) - No, we don't have 1/4 stuff in Easy, especially Ultra Easy. Stuff like 02:46:411 (1,2,3,1,2,3) is kinda hard for Easy as well, consider sth more simple pls.
[Asaiga's Easy]

01:11:999 (3,4) - DS error, I guess that's not important right now compared to other issues but I guess I'll just mention this anyways.
01:37:058 (3,4) - You shouldn't do stacks in Easy.
Something like 00:31:764 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) shouldn't be in Easy/Normal, stuff like this will force player to aim for circles and making them clicking objects consecutively, that's why most ranked maps have a larger number of sliders compared to circles(in easier diffs) cuz sliders are easier and more friendly to players.
Like, the most important issue in this diff is it barely has any flow at all, well you can see the box below of how flows should be.
[hydrosilver's Normal]

00:59:293 (2,3,4,5) - 01:06:352 (5,6) - Clearly too complicated for Normal, I'm referring to the way you stacked these things, there are a few more of this that I didn't mention.
Your way of putting a new combo is pretty much random, it's quite common nowadays to put a new combo on every 1 or 2 downbeats.
As I said earlier, it's just a quick skim, the suggestions I highlighted in blue means they apply to all diffs I modded here, if you have any question or sth you can ask me in game
Anyways that box below is useful, hope it helps and good luck~

[box=Some tips I found useful]
MokouSmoke wrote:
Rhythm:
Downbeats (big white ticks) are typically important beats in the song and should have a clickable object to represent them, especially if a strong sound from the music falls on this beat. Along those lines, if you have no idea when to add new combos (NCs), a simple way is to add a NC every downbeat or every 2 downbeats.
If you're following the drums/vocal/instrument in your song, don't just suddenly switch to mapping a different part of the song unless you have a strong reason to. Otherwise, you will confuse new players.
Flow:
Especially for lower diffs, you want to use nice flow. Maps that have nice flow feel smooth to play and reduce the number of jerky movements that a player has to make in between notes. Good flow allows players to also predict where the next note will be based on the shape/direction of the previous sliders/note. Some nice guides to flow can be found here and here.
Spacing:
Proper spacing is very important in maps. For lower diffs, consistent spacing helps newer players develop a relationship between time and distance between notes. See this for a longer explanation. For normal and easy diffs, it is highly recommended (almost an ironclad rule nowadays) that you keep distance snapping (DS) on for the entire map for the reason stated above.
For harder diffs, spacing is a key component in dictating how intense certain notes feel. In general, notes that land on strong beats (remember downbeats?) should have a larger spacing from the previous note so that it feels more emphasized and matches with intensity of the music
Aesthetics:
People like pretty maps, so make your maps pretty!
Blankets and how to improve them: A blanket is a type of visual pattern that can help make your sliders look neat. Please refer to this guide for help on how to make good blankets. I have found the simplest way is to look at the approach circle of the object you're blanketing and check to see if it lines up perfectly with the inner border of the slider you're using to blanket. Be careful when you're using blankets though, as sometimes a good blanket can lead to bad flow (see above).
Patterns and symmetry: pretty self-explanatory. Humans are drawn to patterns and symmetry, so try incorporating these into your map! A few good shortcuts to know when you're trying to improve your visuals:
ctrl+c/v -> copy/paste
ctrl+g -> reverse selection
ctrl+h/j -> flip horizontally/vertically
ctrl+shift+d -> create polygon

Thanks for modding it Electoz! I hope you can also mod my standard when it's done

Sylvette

332 posts

Joined July 2015

Sylvette 2016-05-02T21:30:37+00:00

Green is fixed.
Orange is unsure.
Red is not changed.
Blue is confusion.

polunochnik wrote:
Cirno-baka9's Ultra Easy
Most of the problems are here.
01:11:999 (3, 4) - for beginners, this part will be difficult Nerfed.
01:48:705 - 01:53:999 - same thing here. Too many objects covering each other I'm not sure about this one, if someone else mentions it, I will change.
02:08:558 - spinner should appear after the previous objects disappear Why?
02:37:940 - this slider is to short for easy mod Changed + too many objects covering each other Unsure
02:43:587 - this slider is to short for easy mod Changed

Electoz wrote:
[Cirno-baka9's Ultra Easy]
Tbh I doubt this diff is really needed since this set already has Easy. It's made for the people who are worse than beginners, basically.
DS must be increased to the point that objects aren't overlapped, well you know beginners can't really handle overlaps in gameplay. I will fix this, but later.
01:12:882 (4) - 2 or more repeats on a reverse slider is confusing, in easier diffs of course, if you're going to make a reverse slider then make it repeat only 1 time and that's it. Already changed this in the previous mod.
Making downbeat (aka big white tick) clickable will make players follow the music better, downbeats like 00:45:176 - I will think about this one. 01:13:411 - No 02:36:705 - No should be clickable.
02:37:940 (1) - No, we don't have 1/4 stuff in Easy, especially Ultra Easy. Already fixed in earlier mod. Stuff like 02:46:411 (1,2,3,1,2,3) is kinda hard for Easy as well, consider sth more simple pls. Will think about this one.

Updated, w/o distance snap changes (also new combo colors because I could not stand the old ones).

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Anyone else who mods my difficulty, do not mention the distance snap. I am in the process of changing it.

Ayyri

Ayyri 2016-05-02T23:01:45+00:00

~~I just wanted to say, the last time I looked at Ultra Easy, I thought the sliders were ugly.~~

I fixed what was mentioned in the earlier mod, and I'll include that with my finished difficulty when I finish it

hydrosilver

62 posts

Joined May 2012

hydrosilver 2016-05-03T05:08:57+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[hydrosilver's Normal]

00:59:293 (2,3,4,5) - 01:06:352 (5,6) - Clearly too complicated for Normal, I'm referring to the way you stacked these things, there are a few more of this that I didn't mention.
Your way of putting a new combo is pretty much random, it's quite common nowadays to put a new combo on every 1 or 2 downbeats.

Thnx for the mod! i'll update it asap

RyoKazuka

Elite Mapper

669 posts

Joined April 2015

RyoKazuka 2016-05-03T10:13:02+00:00

polunochnik wrote:
Ryo's Lunatic
01:07:588 - some thing wrong with distance between buttons here ive made a few testplays and some of my friends says that this part should not be a problem tho the cc is a bit vibrant
just my opinion: 01:08:470 - that's crazy . Never seen some thing like that before. thanks

thanks for modding

Asaiga

848 posts

Joined July 2013

Asaiga 2016-05-03T10:47:03+00:00

Thx for mod!

Remap

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hydrosilver

62 posts

Joined May 2012

hydrosilver 2016-05-04T12:51:46+00:00

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Sylvette

332 posts

Joined July 2015

Sylvette 2016-05-04T19:19:48+00:00

Well, I changed distance snapping on my Ultra Easy. I may make it even higher though.

DS update

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157,369,56470,2,2,B|225:345|225:345|281:293,1,140
331,218,57882,6,2,P|383:174|347:78,1,175
282,66,59293,2,8,B|244:25|244:25|194:-6,2,105
294,113,60705,2,2,P|278:169|170:153,1,175
130,108,62117,2,8,P|86:72|38:96,2,105
164,143,63529,6,2,B|164:187|164:187|196:275|196:275|196:319,1,175
269,311,64941,2,8,P|329:283|369:303,2,105
226,334,66352,2,2,P|174:338|226:210,1,280
336,158,68646,1,8,0:0:0:0:
402,126,69176,6,2,P|462:130|462:234,1,175
425,284,70588,2,8,B|389:328|389:328|337:348,2,105
457,247,71999,2,2,P|489:147|469:131,1,140
441,103,73058,2,8,L|437:67,2,35
420,173,73941,2,2,P|376:221|328:213,1,105
304,185,74823,6,2,P|284:153|200:213,1,175
254,261,76235,2,8,B|302:269|302:269|346:313,2,105
208,241,77646,2,2,P|146:208|148:105,1,175
184,51,79058,2,2,B|256:55|256:55|312:111,1,140
325,198,80470,6,2,P|349:234|449:182,1,175
449,117,81882,2,8,B|433:51|433:51|401:30,2,105
457,165,83293,2,2,P|469:193|381:293,1,175
326,259,84705,2,2,P|286:223|238:239,2,105
371,277,86117,6,2,P|435:289|351:85,1,490,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
311,106,88940,2,8,L|263:246,1,140
167,245,90352,2,8,L|215:105,1,140
276,38,91764,6,2,P|356:26|404:62,2,140
184,74,93882,2,8,L|132:134,1,70
256,192,94588,12,4,97411,0:0:0:0:
404,84,108705,5,8,0:0:0:0:
387,130,109058,2,0,P|351:158|319:166,1,70,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
281,150,109764,2,0,L|217:198,2,70,2|0|2,3:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
299,104,110823,2,0,P|291:60|267:33,1,70,0|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
227,48,111529,5,8,0:0:0:0:
190,80,111882,2,0,P|182:120|158:152,2,70,2|0|2,3:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
234,59,112940,1,8,0:0:0:0:
277,80,113293,2,0,P|285:120|309:152,2,70,2|0|2,3:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
236,51,114352,6,2,P|204:43|108:171,1,210,2|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
113,206,115764,2,2,L|129:290,1,70,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
157,312,116470,2,2,P|193:320|229:300,1,70,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
237,260,117176,6,2,P|293:152|381:144,1,210,2|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
420,143,118587,2,2,L|456:71,1,70,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
414,47,119293,2,2,B|382:31|382:31|346:31,1,70,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
300,45,119999,5,2,2:0:0:0:
269,137,120705,2,8,P|241:181|213:193,1,70
183,212,121411,1,2,2:0:0:0:
136,298,122117,2,8,P|172:338|192:342,2,70,8|8|2,0:0|0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
158,202,123529,5,8,0:0:0:0:
229,134,124235,1,2,2:0:0:0:
324,113,124940,1,8,0:0:0:0:
414,151,125646,6,2,P|474:119|390:271,1,560
256,192,128558,12,4,130587,0:0:0:0:
256,76,131293,6,2,P|244:136|168:168,1,140
107,191,132529,2,2,P|77:231|204:299,1,245,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
243,277,134117,6,2,B|311:301|311:301|379:301,1,140
436,254,135352,2,2,P|452:186|492:170,2,105,2|8|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
422,326,136940,6,2,P|393:342|311:285,1,140
312,217,138176,2,2,B|256:169|256:169|224:137|160:153|132:197|152:249,1,245,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,259,139764,6,2,P|206:315|150:379,1,140
85,363,140999,2,2,P|77:315|93:255,2,105,2|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,367,142587,6,2,P|250:367|122:219,1,455
76,269,145411,6,2,B|140:297|140:297|152:285|176:253|224:253|256:285|256:285|322:279|383:235|391:147|312:105,1,455
256,192,148234,12,4,153176,0:0:0:0:
228,72,153882,6,2,P|184:88|152:232,1,210,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
181,270,155293,2,0,B|237:314|237:314|313:306,2,140,2|8|2,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
37,175,157940,6,2,L|2:180,2,35
85,184,158646,2,8,P|97:248|105:260,2,70
88,159,159529,6,2,P|92:107|280:91,2,280,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,300,163587,6,2,L|216:324,2,35
157,258,164293,2,8,P|157:206|141:182,2,70
151,282,165176,5,4,0:0:0:0:
261,150,166411,6,2,L|305:138,1,35
341,197,167117,2,2,L|299:208,1,35
278,273,167823,2,2,L|322:261,1,35,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
246,105,169234,6,8,L|214:73,1,35
153,109,169940,2,8,L|185:141,1,35
170,206,170646,2,8,L|138:174,1,35,8|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
273,329,172234,6,2,P|285:321|177:173,1,280
95,188,174352,1,8,0:0:0:0:
90,285,175058,6,2,P|94:317|162:349,2,105
256,192,176470,12,4,178587,0:0:0:0:
212,48,179293,5,8,3:0:0:0:
300,90,179999,2,2,P|340:126|304:206,2,140
208,125,182117,1,8,0:0:0:0:
211,222,182823,1,8,0:0:0:0:
145,294,183528,6,2,P|161:342|301:326,1,210
323,295,184940,2,2,L|227:99,1,210,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
203,65,186352,6,2,P|127:65|83:125,2,140
288,241,189176,6,2,P|364:241|408:181,1,140
424,100,190587,5,8,0:0:0:0:
356,29,191293,1,8,0:0:0:0:
275,84,191999,2,2,P|231:80|167:12,2,140
359,33,194117,6,2,L|463:137,1,140
433,226,195528,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,240,196234,6,2,P|260:260|208:152,1,210
209,110,197646,2,2,L|347:55,2,140,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,72,210352,5,8,0:0:0:0:
436,149,211764,1,8,0:0:0:0:
270,253,213175,5,8,0:0:0:0:
90,176,214587,1,8,0:0:0:0:
237,47,215999,6,8,P|157:71|105:47,2,140,8|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
334,56,218117,1,8,0:0:0:0:
334,154,218823,6,8,L|270:286,2,140,8|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,35,221646,5,8,0:0:0:0:
132,122,222352,1,0,3:3:0:0:
197,195,223058,2,0,P|201:255|145:319,1,140,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
249,333,224470,5,8,0:0:0:0:
294,246,225176,1,0,3:3:0:0:
229,173,225882,2,0,P|225:113|281:49,1,140,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
368,73,227293,6,0,L|408:77,4,35,8|2|8|2|8,0:0|3:0|0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
289,132,228705,6,0,L|249:128,4,35,8|2|8|2|8,0:0|3:0|0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,230117,12,4,232940,0:0:0:0:

_DT3

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Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-05-04T20:43:59+00:00

Ok, gonna add those in tomorrow

DeRandom Otaku

2,142 posts

Joined November 2014

DeRandom Otaku 2016-05-04T21:46:18+00:00

Hi~ From my queue

General :

Disable countdown
Disable widescreen support
Combo colors should be same in all diffs

Cirno-baka9's Light Extra :

Welp ~ its Wip and already 5.45 star~ so rename it to Extra
OD 6.4? xD
03:01:587 (6) - move up by 1 grid

Ryo's Lunatic :

Tick rate 1 ~ the ticks produce alot of unnacessory sounds throughout the map
Increase OD to 7.5
Really really great diff!~

Ayyri's Insane :

Increase OD

thats it maybe? the whole mapset is wip so idk what to mod ;w;

Good luck completing and ranking it ~

_DT3

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Joined October 2015

Topic Starter

_DT3 2016-05-04T21:54:44+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Hi~ From my queue

General :
Disable countdown
Disable widescreen support
Combo colors should be same in all diffs
Cirno-baka9's Light Extra :
Welp ~ its Wip and already 5.45 star~ so rename it to Extra
OD 6.4? xD
03:01:587 (6) - move up by 1 grid
Ryo's Lunatic :
Tick rate 1 ~ the ticks produce alot of unnacessory sounds throughout the map
Increase OD to 7.5
Really really great diff!~
Ayyri's Insane :
Increase OD
thats it maybe? the whole mapset is wip so idk what to mod ;w;

Good luck completing and ranking it ~

Oh well, yeah, pretty much all ~5* maps right now, the Easy ones are complete though, thanks for modding!

anna apple

1,256 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2016-05-04T22:22:08+00:00

From mod queue:

Ryo's Lunatic

You can raise OD, its kind of low for that star difficulty

Over mapping (most likely also unrankable)
01:11:205 (5,7) - 01:15:441 (4,6) - 01:39:970 (5) - 01:42:793 (5) - 02:13:852 (6) - 02:19:499 (6) - 02:22:323 (6) - 02:25:146 (6) - 02:30:793 (6) - 03:42:264 (4,6) - 03:43:675 (3,5) - 03:45:087 (3,5) - 03:46:499 (3) - 01:08:558 (4,6,2) - no sound here -> if you tap, it should be because there is sound.

Unrankable
00:11:294 (1) - There must be at least 1 beat of recovery time aka. 1 beat between the spinner end and the following note.

Potential

00:16:941 through 00:28:235 can have more 1/4 notes in it
01:07:941 (2) - 01:19:235 (2) - 01:54:352 (1) - this slows down the pace of the section in a really bad way, try to keep the pace of each section consistent unless there is something changes dramatically in the music
01:07:058 (3) - 01:13:941 (2) - 01:24:705 (1,2) - 02:43:764 (1,2) - so does this
01:18:352 (3) - ugly slider that also slows down the pace.
02:55:764 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is a relatively large increase in pace for no reason.
03:32:293 (2) - 03:37:940 (2) - slows the pace in a bad way
02:45:176 (1,2,3,4) - 02:47:999 (1,2,3,4) - 02:50:823 (1,2,3,4) - these are awkward.

Circle Patterns

02:26:293 (6,7,8) - bad angle, try to keep them at an acute angle
01:55:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this would typically be a bad angle, but it is not because it is consistent withing this little phrase

Spacing

03:30:705 (2,3,4) - even this out, 3 is too close to 4

RyoKazuka

Elite Mapper

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RyoKazuka 2016-05-05T09:09:34+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Ryo's Lunatic :
Tick rate 1 ~ the ticks produce alot of unnacessory sounds throughout the map and ill use those unnecessary sounds for future hitsounding
Increase OD to 7.5 sure
Really really great diff!~

[alt][F4] wrote:
From mod queue:

Ryo's Lunatic

You can raise OD, its kind of low for that star difficulty

Over mapping (most likely also unrankable)
01:11:205 (5,7) - 01:15:441 (4,6) - 01:39:970 (5) - 01:42:793 (5) - 02:13:852 (6) - 02:19:499 (6) - 02:22:323 (6) - 02:25:146 (6) - 02:30:793 (6) - 03:42:264 (4,6) - 03:43:675 (3,5) - 03:45:087 (3,5) - 03:46:499 (3) - 01:08:558 (4,6,2) - no sound here -> if you tap, it should be because there is sound.

overmapping for the sake of consistency is not a major problem unless if its really overmapped (imo the quintets in some part is to help the rhythm than letting a 1/1 space blank with no notes

Unrankable
00:11:294 (1) - There must be at least 1 beat of recovery time aka. 1 beat between the spinner end and the following note. only applies to lower diffs from Hyper to Easy as new players need the recovery time to catch up with the beat

Potential
00:16:941 through 00:28:235 can have more 1/4 notes in it the reason why i didnt choose to that is because I wanna make the difficulty harder as time progresses, it starts with small spacings and simple beat placements and ends with a stream
01:07:941 (2) - 01:19:235 (2) - 01:54:352 (1) - this slows down the pace of the section in a really bad way, try to keep the pace of each section consistent unless there is something changes dramatically in the music you can see theres a double quintet happenning after this for player to regain consciousness
01:07:058 (3) - 01:13:941 (2) - 01:24:705 (1,2) - 02:43:764 (1,2) - so does this I prefer to keep it like that since it doesnt destroy the melody/rhythm in gameplay
01:18:352 (3) - ugly slider that also slows down the pace. its not ugly and it helps a lot with flow
02:55:764 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is a relatively large increase in pace for no reason. for the drumroll fade in
03:32:293 (2) - 03:37:940 (2) - slows the pace in a bad way i always use 1/1 sliders and repeats in a playable way, adding more notes or 1/2 sliders just like you mentioned above will result in overmapping and a boring map with only jumps and common flows
02:45:176 (1,2,3,4) - 02:47:999 (1,2,3,4) - 02:50:823 (1,2,3,4) - these are awkward. not for me and it plays well as testplayed
Circle Patterns
02:26:293 (6,7,8) - bad angle, try to keep them at an acute angle changed 8's placement
01:55:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this would typically be a bad angle, but it is not because it is consistent withing this little phrase its not a bad angle
Spacing
03:30:705 (2,3,4) - even this out, 3 is too close to 4 moved 4 further

thanks a lot for modding !

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